408w Ford Mustang Idle and Rev

[alldayandnight09]

Question: How are they revving the engine with no one in the driver seat?????

[DoctorNambu]

@alldayandnight09 lol they are pulling the thangamajag on the carburetor

[o5socalsrt]

Question: looking to start that 408w but I'm stuck with one question. 11:1 compression is the highest I can go on race gas. But e85 runs at a colder burn and is known for around 106 octane. Would I be able to run s 13:1 or 14:1 compression and use e85 safely as a street car? Pro and cons of such a high compression? I know drag cars normally run high compression and that you get more Hp with higher compression. Would it negatively effect the nitrous I want to put on the car?

[alldayandnight09]

@o5socalsrt first off if you have nitrous in the vehicle kiss street legal good bye. second running E85 is not very street applicable.

If your going to run 14:1 compression you going to need a high octane fuel so that the ignition happens at its ideal time. Your going to require lots of tuning. As for nitrous effecting it im not sure.

[DoctorNambu]

@alldayandnight09 good wiki facts

[alldayandnight09]

@DoctorNambu why thank you. Im actually the creator of wiki facts, so be sure to take some notes. (it might help you out as you probably need it) ; )

[o5socalsrt]

@alldayandnight09 I am not concerned about "street legal" I'm in california so once the 408 goes in it then the street legal shit is gone anyways. Also I meant pump gas 11:1 is the highest I can go. I don't wanna run race gas all the time. Also e85 is VERY streetable. Theres tons of friends of mine running e85 everyday on turbo charged cars. Not only that but some of them are doing 800+ hp on 48psi on an evolution. Running built motor with e85. Its very street legal I just need to know its limit

[o5socalsrt]

@alldayandnight09 I am not concerned about "street legal" I'm in california so once the 408 goes in it then the street legal shit is gone anyways. Also I meant pump gas 11:1 is the highest I can go. I don't wanna run race gas all the time. Also e85 is VERY streetable. Theres tons of friends of mine running e85 everyday on turbo charged cars. Not only that but some of them are doing 800+ hp on 48psi on an evolution. Running built motor with e85. Its very streetable I just need to know its limit

[alldayandnight09]

@o5socalsrt Oh. If you dont care about street illegal go alot man. I thought u did cause you were sayin how you wanted to run E85 as street. And i was actually mistake E85 is streetable but just not many gas stations have it. (at least around where i live) So find a few and stick with em i guess.

[X9xATIx7X]

So.... when is that getting dropped off in my driveway????

[tj306notch]

i got a 64 1/2 mustang with a 408 windsor going in it, eagle crank and rods, dome top pistons with 11:1 compression, edelbrock victor jr. heads a custom grind cam i think is pretty similar to yours, a fogger system with 125 shot in now, dyno'd at 550 somethin all motor and just over 700 on the spray. i just wanna know what your makin cuz i'm really wantin to hit single digits too.

[ChromedOutDubs]

@tj306notch If your dyno figured are accurate you should have no issue hitting 9's with that setup. Good luck and have fun!

[o5socalsrt]

Thanks for the quick reply!! Why did you go 10.2:1 compression? Why not 10.5:1 or higher if you're running all motor? What heads did you put on this beast? You have an awesome build man it sounds amazing. Can I run any year 351w to a 408 without any problems?

[ChromedOutDubs]

@o5socalsrt This was built to be a street car and i wanted to be able to run pump gas with no issues so i didnt want to get crazy with the compression. It has AFR 205cc on it. The car went a best of 9.80 @ 137 MPH a few months ago on a 100 shot and 10.80 @ 127 on motor. The motor is torn apart right now and is in the process of being rebuilt for heavy boost application. Got new heads for it, which are TFS-R 235cc with tons of CNC and port work on them, they flow about 360 cfm on the intake.

[DoctorNambu]

@ChromedOutDubs What kind of Cam?

[ChromedOutDubs]

@DoctorNambu In this video it has a custom grind from CamMotion. Its a Solid Roller cam, lift is somewhere around .680/in-.680/ex - Nitrous cam.

[DoctorNambu]

@ChromedOutDubs Thanks a lot!

[ChromedOutDubs]

@o5socalsrt The older style blocks are no roller blocks, so you have to run the link bar lifts. I believe the new blocks are roller blocks and you use the dog bone setup like the 302 use. I'm not real sure about the new stuff, iv only dealt with the older style non-roller blocks. My custom grind cam from this setup is forsale, if your interested. Its a Cam Motion custom grind for Solid Mechanical Roller

[stonebridgecustom]

@ChromedOutDubs did u go with a 2 bolt main or 4 bolt main? i want to do a 351 based motor but i cant find a reasonable price on a 4 bolt main

[o5socalsrt]

Also cam lift and duration and separation.

[o5socalsrt]

I'll take the engine specs. Especially what year block you chose and what crank you went with.

[ChromedOutDubs]

@o5socalsrt The block is a 1974 351w bored to .040 over. It has a Eagle 4340 Forged Crank w/4.00 stroke with Eagle 4340 H-beam rods 6.200 long. Probe 2618 Forged aluminum pistons dish -20cc to make the compression around 10.2:1. Vic jr intake with a Prosystems 850 carb, Cam is a custom grind from Cam Motion Lift: .686 IN, .662 EX

Duration: 257 IN, 265 EX

Lobe Separation: 112 Degrees

Custom Solid Roller from Cam Motion

Nitrous Cam

[TheShawn1127]

That thing is a Beast man.

[rckash995]

in my opinion, a 1/78 primaries and 3" collector, 3" right through to tailpipes will make this thing so much faster, that and a little better suspension, ford motors love back pressure ! just my .02 !

[ChromedOutDubs]

@rckash995 Thanks for the info man, I got the suspension tuned in pretty good now, just waiting to spray the 250 on it and see how it acts.

[bbsombs]

what type of heads u got on her? and whats yr compression? how much hp ruffly lol thanks

[dalejrroxx]

what are your cam specs if you dont mind?

[ChromedOutDubs]

@dalejrroxx Lift: .686 IN, .662 EX

Duration: 257 IN, 265 EX

Lobe Separation: 112 Degrees

Custom Solid Roller from Cam Motion

Nitrous Cam 

[dalejrroxx]

@ChromedOutDubs thanks man sounds mean!

[TrueStangerBoy]

what type of exhaust do you have in this vid?

[ChromedOutDubs]

@TrueStangerBoy They are Kooks Longtubes ceramic coated with 2" primaries and 3.5" Collectors. Open headers.

[ryanmhale]

What kind of pistons you running

[ChromedOutDubs]

@ryanmhale They are Probe forged aluminum. 19cc dish

[wes5481]

Thats a Beast car you got keep it up

[rp94cobra]

gd that thing sounds god awful i saw both your trans brake videos and the pass this thing is pure power

[ChromedOutDubs]

@rp94cobra god awful? i think it sounds great. Well thanks for watchin anyways!

[rp94cobra]

@ChromedOutDubs you took it the wrong way when i said god awful i meant it sounded good

[freshgunna23]

oh hey what blocc did you build off of ?

[freshgunna23]

wow bro it sounds gud i want to build a motor something similar. may be a 347 though. hey are u still able to drive it on the streets? cuz man i know ur not pasing smog

[mdunn1150]

Wow...Sounds great..How does it run...building a SBF I and like the way yours sounds. What heads are you using and what com. ratio is it?

Thanks..

Marty D.

[ChromedOutDubs]

It runs good, it has went 10.80's on motor but still needs some tuning. Still waiting to spray the 200 shot to it! The heads are AFR 205cc with a spring upgrade. Almost .700 lift cam... With 2" primary headers. The compression ration is around 10.5:1

[mdunn1150]

Thanks for the quick reply.....Again, very impressed with your engine.....Did you stay with injection or go with a carb? My plan was to go super victor with mine...

[ChromedOutDubs]

Thanks man, I really appreciate the people on here that actually give props for stuff. I'm used to a bunch of haters... But yeah, I went with a carb. I have a victor Jr single plane intake. I sent it off to Steve Johnson of Induction Solutions for the direct port fogger system. I had a QuickFuel 750 but just switched to a Pro-Systems Carb 850ish.

[mdunn1150]

I am used to the Hater......Trust Me...

Sending you a PM

[GCSeeg09]

Sounds great... mad props from a chevy guy.

[ChromedOutDubs]

Thanks, took a lot of hard work and money.

[sabordobruin1]

sounds like you have built a beast

[killingyoukindly]

ha ha. sounds like popcorn to me. XD i got a 91 lx. got a 302 to go in it but dont have the money to get the stuff i need

[ChromedOutDubs]

I have the Edelbrock Super Victor Direct Port Kit. Im sure ill be going with around a 250 shot, but i can go up to 500 if i want..... The car doesnt get hot at all now, and it runs on 93 octane. Thats with a water pump mounted flex-fan, im still trying to get an e-fan for it though.

[Restaurant25]

What kind of cam is it you have in that thing? Sounds nice.

[ChromedOutDubs]

Custom Grind from CamMotion

Solid Mechanical Roller

.686/.662 Lift

[GCSeeg09]

whats the @.050 and lsa?

[ChromedOutDubs]

112

[ChromedOutDubs]

@.050 what? Lift , duration, which one are you looking for??

[GCSeeg09]

@ .050 Duration, not really concerned with lift.

[ChromedOutDubs]

.257 IN - 265 EX

[Ziggidy08]

I've been watching your videos all the time! I got caught a few times at work too! That thing will be a beast with nitrous, any plans on how big of a shot? You might even consider running methanol so you could run that beast down the track all day even faster and never worry about it getting hot. Just an idea though.

[Ziggidy08]

Man this is the best sounding mustang I can find! The idle is so choppy it just makes you want to run away and cry like a little girl. Very nice job on the car and thanks for the inspiration. Maybe I'll post a video of mine when I can build one someday.

[ChromedOutDubs]

Thanks for the kind words. Im very proud of this car. Let me know when you get yours running! Go watch some of the other videos of it going down the track. 10.84 @ 124 is my personal best so far. Havnt ran it with the bigger PRO SYSTEMS carb yet or the nitrous....

-AJ

[blueoval331]

whats the duration and lobe sep on the cam?

[ChromedOutDubs]

Lift: .686 IN, .662 EX

Duration: 257 IN, 265 EX

Lobe Separation: 112 Degrees

Custom Solid Roller from Cam Motion

Nitrous Cam

[Nemisis351WGt]

Now all you need is turn down pipes, or Dynomax racebullet mufflers with dumps! (:-D

[Nemisis351WGt]

Alright! You finally changed the dinky 2.5 inch exhaust from the last video of your big cam video. 3 1/2 inch exhaust is a tremendous upgrade.

[ChromedOutDubs]

YEZZZIR

[418wstroker]

Good stuff.

[kraden18]

where did you buy your heads biggest i can find is 64cc heads and 225cc intake

[ChromedOutDubs]

Mine are AirFlowResearch 58cc - 205's CNC Ported

[cutlassman86]

what are the specs?? car sounds sickkkkk!

[ChromedOutDubs]

.690/.680 Lift CamMotion cam, 408w, Forged Internals, Vic Jr Intake, QuickFuel 750 Race carb, AFR 205cc heads - Upgraded springs, Mighty Mite C4, and Super Victor Fogger 250-500 shot. If you want more info just ask