I am probably a .75, more liberal, in the classic sense and not at all progressive. Progressives are just economically incompetent and think their ideas are completely virtuous, so its ok to use force to promote them.
How is staying out of bullshit wars progressive? I thought that was conserving what the founding fathers believed. Taking extra risks because you're worried about your enemies civilians seems progressive too.
just showed this to my ultra conservative, right-wing father who thinks that "obama is the most liberal president we've ever had"... he had no response
Uncommitted sounds like the perfect thing to kickstart the election with the conversation at the right place. Occupy, not some bullshit Iran, Abortion, Gay, Racism, Reagan, Socialism-thing.
@MrNYCman530....Did you even watch the video? Obamacare is RomneyCare (originally endorsed by the ultra conservative think tank Heritage Foundation) implemented nationwide. Spreading the wealth? Like you when he renewed Bush's tax cuts? Yeah, that's spreading the wealth. Appeasing Muslims? How about some actual proof instead of spouting off right wing talking points.
@bannor99 no, what hurts him (and the american people) is the way he can be sold out so easily. a lot of people think that he was going to march into d.c. and chase out all of the bad men overnight, they were not only wrong but were living in a delusional state of mind. politifact(dot)com keeps track of his campaign promises and does a very good job of it. check them out some time and see how many 'promises' were stalled because of 'republicans'.
Obama's liberal when it comes to wanting to give illegals amnesty, suing Arizona, Socialized healthcare, partial birth abortion, appeasing Muslims, spreading the wealth around, etc.
@Darrellmeaney Well the difference was that they loved a dumb submissive black candidate, not one who is smarter than the general public. (smarter as in his education at Harvard etc) but ultimately his affairs had him hurting therefore having to quit. Thats my understanding.
@TheOdhisattva I take care of myself and it's none of your business how I do it cause I never asked for your intervention or help in my life. I can't help that you don't understand how this works. By choosing to opt out and take care of myself, I do so with every intention of making my future better than any social program could ever do. I do not agree with being robbed of my money to take care of the needy, helpless humans who are incapable of taking care of themselves.
@Desertphile Your fucking head is so full of shit you should be put into a mental asylum. Obama is a Liberal you know why? Because he is feminizing the military, cutting 110,000 marines, cutting 80% of our nukes AND MORE. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND YOU NOTHING. Obama was elected because the average american doesn't know what the hell is going on.
@septogram7 Yeah, I know a lot of people who plan on voting republican, and I'm like: Are you kidding me?! But they're impossible to argue with! So am I, I s'pose. But I'm using actual facts and they aren't! ARRGH
the President is a moderate and centerist ! and Americans are ignorant!!! While Congress is out of touch! but you really don't understand what the President did with health Care !!! addicting info dot org/2012/01/04/obamacare-is-already-helping-the-99-now/
@jeebedon which ones? the ones showing americans for progressive ideas are done by Pew and similar reputable polling institutions. I doubt they do different polls too different, but its old news if you follow polling.
Americans like to say they are conservative when you ask a general ideological position but you ask specific issues people say different.
Thats why they think pushing people into private care is somehow liberal, amongst other positions TYT points out.
Obama is about as liberal as he can be in a country which hedged its bets on y2k, is now preoccupied with 2012, and has a 'God' which killed Rock Hudson back in the 1980's. by the time 2020 rolls around maybe people will see better, but by then it will be too late, the world will be in the middle of peak oil, global warming will be in full swing and it will be decades if not centuries before the dust settles. retards.
@vengencefrom1979 Not at all; most of the folks who voted for him WANTED a liberal president and bought into his promises. What hurt him was the stupid, pointless bartering he did to win RightWingNutJobs over. If he'd come in on Day One saying "Single-payer healthcare is the way to go, we're going to do it, and we'll do it right and to anyone who says different I say, YES, WE CAN!", he would have gotten it through AND would have kept control of the House, TeaBaggers be damned.
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but what does "liberal" and "conservative" even mean? I tried to determine for myself by looking at "conservative" vs "liberal" politicians, but I swear they all act the same....
@TheCreeperhunter Be careful not to assume that a politicans is liberal just because his opponent calls him this or he's a dem. Or in the case of other countries, being part of a party that has liberal in the name. That doesn't' make them liberal.
From Wiki-"Liberalism is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights."
Liberalism has evolved over time, mainly in how they think bets to meet those goals & what is possible.
@booley Then there's Neuro scientist George Lakoff that said that the primary difference between libs & cons is the metaphor they use to think about government & how they prioritize different values.
For instance, cons tend to push self discipline over empathy. Liberals generally favor empathy.
I tend to favor this a sI can see it in action when I talk to people who describe themselves as Conservatives and Liberals
Anyway, this is probably too complex a subject to sum up on a post here.
In general, people don't really know what these terms really mean. Many people think pols are liberal just because they are Democrats, which is not true. However, most Republicans are conservative.
I think people should keep in min the difference between conservatism and corporatism, true conservatism everything is a cost/benefit analysis and if a program/department isn't achieving the goal and wasting money then they get rid of it, I'd not consider myself a conservative but a lot of people mistake one thin for another because they do not understand the difference of definitions or they have been told by the media one thing when in reality it's another.
its ridiculous how this country flip flops. when there is a democratic majority in the senate and a democratic president, you are conservative, when there is the opposite, most people are democratic. The problem is that the only options for electable officials consists of corrupt figureheads for each party, no one is in the middle.
liberal would say ohh lets save the whales. no killed whales. oh the horror.
now a conservative would say lets put a couple of tour boat out there and charge people $50 to watch a whale take a giant dump in the ocean. come on people lets get with the program and make a profit out of these fucking whales.
@R4t10n4L Regrettably your just an idiot trying to sound smart. What projective delusion? Say it first next time, instead of a senseless accusation without any supporting examples. Geese
@LetFreedomR1ng Before you accuse someone of idiocy, you should turn on spellcheck. And, it helps your own case if you apply a little brainpower first.
What do we know about Marcus Bachmann? What is his best-known comment on being gay?
This just proves that americans so fucking stupid...they don't even know what ideology defines them. The simple fact that most of the americans support the social programs that obama is trying to cut should tell them that obama is more to the right than an average american. But they are too dumb to figure that out. Just attaching fabricated stigma to words like socialism and liberalism on daily basis by MSM worked like a charm. Fucking pathetic
Government should provide free education and healthcare to all! That is our rights, and leaving it up to the enslavers of capitalism is bogus and up for corruption. the government represents the people's interest and should therefore work without making a profit while the rich, who have a responsibiliity to society, must provide as well. that is my left leaning policies, call it socialist or whatever, and i can tell you, OBAMA IS NOT A SOCIALIST
The most funny thing is every President has a great speech and every President uses that speech to win Votes They are the kings when it comes to pulling the wool over you're eyes
The men that will kill you will be the same men offering a hand of peace Don’t believe me ask a Native American
You know what blows my mind Right Wing hate Welfair but when they retire they all want Pensions etc A Pension pays sometimes 100-80% of what they made while working So even when they retire they get thousands of dollars a month just to sit on there asses In Los Angeles City Workers & Court Workers that made 100K are making 4000 or more a month. In the United States pensions are commonly known as pension schemes You believe that shit they tell you it's a fucking scheme
Are you a Democrat disappointed in Obama? Hate neocons?
Kelly's right.
Help us do something about it.
Vote for Ron Paul in the GOP primaries, and kick the warmongering neocons out of the race.
Do you really want to run the risk of a Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich for president? Another war? No more Neocons. Show them the majority of america is sick of them.
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Search "Blue Republican" if you want to know the game plan. Interesting stuff.
how is ending wars not conservative? true conservatives oppose government power and waste. freedom is consertive. liberal is the government controlling the people. dont confuse republican with conservative.
"freedom is consertive. liberal is the government controlling the people"
This statement couldn't be more stupid if you tried. You know the history of liberalism? The first liberals were people like the ones that started the French Revolution, the Paris Commune etc. Conservatives were the ones that supported the Ancien Regime, the monarchial neofeudal status quo, in those days.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH So true, Liberalism has a track record of changing the world, Liberalism is the reason society progresses. Conservatives today would like to get you to believe society has progressed enough, but who are they fooling?! Just like Socrates talking about how 'lazy and rude' children of his day were (Over 2000 years ago!), conservatives have been pressing this 'society has progressed enough' bullshit since times of monarchy!
@insertnamehereKJK It's the only product they have to sell - pure bullshit. Unfortunately, centuries of practice have made them very, very good at both making and selling it.
For people like Adam Smith perhaps, but people like Rousseau, Locke, Von Humboldt mainly questioned to submission to institutions of power, such as the Church, government and in various cases (like Rousseau) land-owners. The best example and the father of liberalism, John Locke, focused not so much on economy but foremost on the social contract as it existed. He resisted the status quo by claiming the government should derive authority from consent, not from forcefulness.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Classical Liberals are not Liberals in the modern sense.Smith was also a classical Liberal. Milton Friedman`s book, Capitalism & Freedom uses the word Liberal throughout, after an explanation of what it means. Social Contract to Locke was simply Govt protecting our lives, Liberty, property in the State, has NOTHING to do with any safety net "social contracts".
What do safety nets have to do with anything? I've never heard classical liberals argue for safety nets. That does not mean they were all free market capitalists or defenders of property rights. Rousseau again, argued against property rights in his famous quote about the man who fenced his land (pretty long to paste, look up if you don't know it), and many liberals later saw the philosophical bankruptcy of property, as well as the coercive nature that follows from this.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Because I have know way to determine where you are coming from, or what you mean to say, or what you believe. I am clarifying, to figure it out. Certainly, you must agree that Liberal means something different today, than previously. I have little time right now, but how is it possible, for Liberal, in the past use, to have belief in private property, and not? Maybe it does, but this is fundamental.
@luvcheney1 " Certainly, you must agree that Liberal means something different today, than previously"
Ok you know you could just look it up. While wikipedia isn't perfect, it does lay out the very thing you say you dont' understand. I found it in all of 2 seconds (the time it took me to type "Liberalism"
This seems to be a common theme to your posts. You argue from what you believe to be true rather then making sure what you say is true.
If you're arguing against property rights, it's pretty impossible to support capitalism or the 'free market'. Yet Rousseau never spoke of a safety net. You can be against capitalism and be a classical liberal without being in favor of social safety nets. Plenty of liberals disagreed with capitalism.
People like John Locke are closer to modern day anarchists (philosophical anarchists at least, to a lesser degree practical anarchists as well) than to social liberals or even free market libertarians on many issues.
Radical liberals in Spain for example had little binding with the free market and became very tied with the anarchist community, rather than the free-market conservatives.
Many liberals, like Rousseau strongly resisted capitalism as obstructive to freedom.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Believers in free markets generally are not anarchists at all. The Constitution outlines role for Fed Govt, in Article 1, Sect 8. Index of Economic Freedom, lists qualities it considers essential for freedom, shows need for Govt, Milton Friedman outlines role for Govt, etc. Govt must protect against violence from outside, and inside, allowing commerce without violent coercion. Contract laws, and enforcement, courts, "neighborhood effects", etc
People like John Stuart Mill, one of the biggest philophers on freedom said stuff like: "Not all conservatives are stupid but most stupid people are conservative.". Conservatives are controlling bastards, they want to check ever aspect of your life. Conservatism is about hierarchy and control, it always has been. From feudalism to today.
Conservatives are reactionaries, all throughout history. In every revolution that strived for a bit more freedom, from France to Russia, from Spain to South-America, from the US to Britain, conservatives were the reactionaries that were trying to defend the aristocratic and hierarchial status quo.
I think America is very conservative. You don't even say your liberal, you say you're 'progressive' because 'liberal' is somehow a taboo word. Obama is centre right - the rest are extreme right.
Liberals were so outraged over Gitmo when Bush was in office --- never hear a shitting ass thing about it now.
Liberals were so outraged at civilian war casualties --- even though there's been a record number of civilian casualties w/Obama's drone attacks, Liberals & Code Pink freaks aren't going ape-shit in the streets anymore.
Liberals are hypocritical & hideous brain-diseased creatures.
@Stingerbillion Less Govt. Applying Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution as intended, to define Federal Power. Letting States enact Govt healthcare, or other causes that are NOT enumerated under the constitution ( 10th Amendment), if there is voter support in States to do so. The problem NOW is that Social Security, as example, has folks who paid already their entire lives, under heavy tax burdens, and need it, as Govt took some of their ability to voluntarily save.
@TheAssesKicker I mean that liberal means center-left. Socialist is more left-wing than liberal. I'm liberal in my politics, being quite economically left and socially libertarian (hence I identify as a libertarian socialist) but I don't consider myself A liberal because I am more left-wing than a lot of liberals. Liberals and other social democrats are still capitalists; socialists are not.
@CrazyCheeseMagee Socialism is NOT more left-wing than liberalism and liberal doesn't mean center-left. Like I said, you can be a Liberal Socialist. I don't know what kind of Liberals are you talking about because I've never seen em'. Why do you think a lot of Conservatives hate us? Because we're very left-wing. Most libertarians I've met are way less left-wing than me and they support Ron Paul.
@TheAssesKicker We just have a different meaning of liberal. What I mean by "liberals" are those who push for social democracy but still want to keep capitalism and don't support actual socialism, which is a system in which the means of production are owned either collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
@CrazyCheeseMagee The people you're talking about, I wouldn't call them Liberals. They seem like moderates to me. I don't think we should have a different meaning of Liberal because we should look at the actual meaning of Liberal and accept it as it is.
@TheAssesKicker Maybe what you mean by "liberalism" is "A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority," as it is stated in the American Heritage Dictionary, and is something I definitely support, but as libertarian socialism like Noam Chomsky does, not libertarian capitalism like Ron Paul does.
@CrazyCheeseMagee Liberal was used earlier in our history to mean a believer in free markets. It comes from, obviously "Liberty". Passing laws on Social Security, MediCare, MediCaid, ObamaCare simply mean the Govt is going to take taxes from people, and then dole out Healthcare back to us, through a Govt plan. When Govt forces me to be taxed, and join their systems, I have less Liberty to choose my own way. I have no desire to impose anything on you, but you do, to me.
Well DUH!! We all know, only too well, that so-called "liberals" have no problem killing their own citizens. As was very horrifically demonstrated by Bill Clinton and his “Attorney General”, head of the “justice” department, J. Reno, at both Ruby Ridge Idaho and at the Branch Davidians compound in Waco Texas.
@rubiconski2008 You idiot, that was a psycho jesus reincarnate with a ton of underage girls he was raping and a small armed army with military grade weapons.
Large swaths of America has a IQ of 100 or less. Meaning when you watch the news everything needs to be at a 6th grade level. Did you know all News Papers are 6th grade in nature. It's do to majority. The news Networks know the majority of people who read them can only understand things meaning "Comprehend" at a 6th grade zone. We as a country is fucked. We been fucked for over 30 years now.
America is stripped clean the smart people are planning for China now that’s the New World.
@ChrisDasSlasher But gee! How dare you call our big govt, union monopoly in public education a failure! We do spend more than the Asia Pacif Region, dont we? Out teachers get better benefits, dont they? Nice vacations? Pensions? THAT is what matters, not actual education.
@luvcheney1 "We do spend more than the Asia Pacif Region, "
I always find it amusing when people who want to blast US public education, hold up as examples countries where education is nationalized and typically teachers in better positions.
Well at least you didn't use Finland.
BTW, interesting factoid... if Massechusetts was taken as it's own country, it would rank along with the best Asian countries in education.
The problem is that Americans have a radically skewed understanding of the political spectrum. Most of them have moderate liberal views, but the Republicans have shifted the dialogue so far right that the scale has lost meaning.
Large swaths of America has a IQ of 90 or less. The retards are over populating America so in return we have stupid presidents, senators etc… It’s a domino effect stupid citizens’ vote for stupid people who in return make stupid policies and stupid moves in our country so we end up broke. Learn and educate yourself you the people vote these idiots so in return you are a idiot as well. "Simple Minds Make Simple Outcomes." So learn and change.
It is wild to see 12 thumbs up on grade school name calling but when people show facts and reson you get no thumbs up or even worse people redicule you.
We are living in a world where its cool to be fucking retared. "Obama is Bush on crack..." this quote is fucking retared with the 12 people who thought it was funny.
Our Freedom of Chose make you all stupid do to you all choose to be fucking retards.
Bums, Idiots and Morons - World Perception of Americans
@ExterminateKIKEscum ok I know where you are coming from now. I'm sorry that you are a disabled man. Have you ever asked for mental help? Today there are pills that can help you.
This guy is unbelievable. He keeps bashing Fox News and Conservatives nonstop about bashing Liberals. Yet he runs the most radical Liberal webshow. Hilarious.
@ExterminateKIKEscum Here is a family tree showing that all white people are Khazar/Germans.
Material evidence from archaeology and archaeogenetics show PIE speakers cannot be assumed to have been a single, identifiable people or tribe. Rather, they were a group of loosely related populations. Meaning we are related but we may be Russian, Polish, German etc. But we are all from the same stock.
@ExterminateKIKEscum I am really trying to understand you but when you say and quote: "I only like Slavic people thati s about it." You are claiming you are a Khazar Jew or in you're words a KIKE. Khazaria was a polyethnic-multifaith state with a population of Turkic, Uralic, Slavic, and Palaeo-Caucasian peoples. During the 8th century, the Khazar royalty and much of the aristocracy converted to a form of Judaism. If you claim to be a Polish Slavic you are a you're quote KIKE/ Pagan Jew.
@ExterminateKIKEscum I agree with you it is the Germans that rule the world it always been that way. But Many of the Germans that Rule claim to be Jewish instead of being German do to their Khazar heritage and Byzantine Empire background. All German Royalty could technically claim Jew do to Khazar Judaism conversion from paganism in the 8th century. And most do who live in Israel today. Half of Germans are pagan converted Jews the other half are Pagan Converted Chritians from Charlemagne.
@alansjf33 obama bailed out the banks and extended the bush tax cut. is that moderate with some left leaning tendencies? before you tell me he did'nt you make want to pull your head out of your ass and check
@l3urns1 Actually, Obama was only a Senator at the time of the TARP legislation (bank bailout). Now, I hate the first Pinko Pres as much as the next guy, but get your facts straight. I encourage you to look up the party line vote on the TARP bill, and note that the degree of support for it was FAR higher from Dems, than Republicans. So, if you hate bank bailouts, Republicans represented you better. Conservative Reps. Obama voted FOR bailouts, as did most all Libs.
@luvcheney1 obama appointed all of bush's staff to emplement tarp. that means obama put tarp into effect. and are you trying to get me to become a conservative? you're out of your fucking mind
@l3urns1 Regardless of who ran TARP, bank bailouts were far more heavily supported by Democrats. That is easy enough for you to check. Conservatives are more likely to believe in free market principles, and bailing out anyone is not one of them. Bush/ McCain were for TARP too, But they are not that conservative.
@luvcheney1 both sides are ran by the corperations. almost everyone in office sold us out. its not a republican democrat thing. pull your head out of your ass and get a breath of fresh air pal
@l3urns1 In House, Dems said YES to TARP 98.6%, Reps 32.4%. It was far closer in Senate, but still Dems Said YES 77.5%, Reps 54.5%. Free market as an ideology ( which isnt ALL Reps) indicates opposition to bailouts, of any kind. Opposing bailing out Goldman Sachs, GM, B of A, and also 2 yrs of unemployment compensation, food stamps is ideologically consistent. 99% folks oppose corp bailouts, but seem to support bailing out homeowners, student loans, etc. That is inconsistent.
@luvcheney1 all of your efforts become null and void once you take into account the lobbiest factor. your beating a dead hoarse friend. both side of the house and senate are bought and paid for by private sector. lets call it what it is. a whore house. evil doesnt exist. when you correctly label an entity it is fairly judged. it will correct itself if we look at them for the dirty scankiin sluts that they are.
@l3urns1 Note you avoid actually even caring how the Political Parties voted on an issue of importance and consequence to you. If Govt was not involved in making decisions in the market in the first place, lobbying would be unnecessary. There is no point in lobbying if Govt isnt involved. So again, those who support the greatest degree of govt intrusion are causing the greatest degree of lobbying.
@luvcheney1 our govt shouldn't be paid by lobbiest because then do what the lobbiest want and not what the people want. their job is public service, not private service. and since both democrats and republicans are bought, there votes represent coperations will, not ours. you can care what party did what but there both corrupt so fuck yourself
@l3urns1 This is easy. Corporations wouldnt lobby, if govt wasnt getting involved in business in the first place. It would be a waste of time, if govt left things alone. But, lots of people want the govt to make a lot of rules, so business needs to get involved, out of necessity. Libs like you, who want regulations and rules, created the monster in the first place.
@luvcheney1 "Corporations wouldnt lobby, if govt wasnt getting involved in business in the first place."
Wow.. just wow. That has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard here. And we're on you tube.
I can't go into detail on how exactly this is wrong to put it politely. there's just enough space.
But here's a start.
Yes they would still lobby because they wish to make a favorable environment to make money in. Gov provides the best way to do that even at others expense.
@luvcheney1 to do what your thinking we need to get rid of buisnesses too. and since that wil never happen we need govt. you should pull your head out of limbaugh's fat ass
@PatriotWatchUSA Obamacare is a right wing program. A left wing program would be single payer (like Canada) or the public option (Medicare for all). Forcing everyone to buy private insurance with no cost control measures is actually as far right as it gets.
You teahadists need to get a clue. Fascism isn't left wing.
@Gadfly25 Before Obama, Govt already paid 50% of healthcare cost. A free market solution would indicate far closer to zero. The Cost control measures employed in Canada, UK, etc reduce availability of care. Doctors in Canada, UK see 50% more patients daily. Dialysis availability is 4 times greater in US. Angioplasty, and bypass many times more available as well. US invents 55% of worlds internationally used branded drugs. Price controls today, and in 3rd century Rome, create shortages.
@luvcheney1 "The Cost control measures employed in Canada, UK, etc reduce availability of care."
Then how do canadians and britons keep living longer then us, have lower infant mortality and are generally more healthy? Our health care is alot more free market then thier is. Even when the government pays, it's still a private facility doing the work.
Yes the free market does make some nice toys. And then denies them to anyone who cant' pay out the ass.
@booley Our healthcare system was not free market before Obama, it was 50% govt financed anyway already. Obesity is not a result of 50% of the system being private pay, and that by far is reason of many bad health results in the US. In the US, many low birth weight babies are saved, but a high percent of early births are lost, at high cost, and are statistically accounted for. Many foreign nations do not count very early births.
@alansjf33 Not quite. He's a moderate conservative with some centrist leanings. But the issue I have with him is that he didn't stand and fight for the things he promised in his campaign.
@R4t10n4L: Obama didn't have to "fight" for shit his first 2 years ---- he had a Democrat House & Senate, with even a super-majority for a time. Reality is a little different from the skittle-shitting unicorn utopia he promised, huh?
@2010GOP You're reinforcing my point. Why would a hardcore leftist with a supermajority give a flying fuck about what a bunch of hayseed, RadicalRightWingNut, teabagging Jesus freaks thought?
Answer: He wouldn't. But a DINO would and that's what he really is and has always been.
@R4t10n4L: You're a very confused individual. It has nothing to do with "right-wing" or DINO. It has to do with idiots believing in grandeur fairytale speeches, making promises that never aligned with reality & common-sense in the first place.
Obama's other horseshit was passed, none of it "right-wing": failed stimulus, failed cash-for-clunkers program, bullshit h/c bill that's caused premiums to skyrocket, failed mortgage rescue, additional so-called jobs bill, etc.
@2010GOP Stimulus and bailouts were getting passed before he was elected and there were quite a few warnings from analysts that it wasn't nearly enough.
The healthcare bill is weak because he caved on the things that would have definitely made it better but most of the things that are in it, or that was proposed ARE ALL ORIGINALLY REPUBLICAN IDEAS!!
The cash-for-clunkers passed with over 300 votes - if every Dem voted for it, then more than 65% of the GOPreps also vote AYE.
@R4t10n4L Politics. Us "hayseed, RadicalRightWingNut, teabagging Jesus freaks" have an idea of political organizing. We dont sleep on the ground, shit in parks, and smoke weed all night, and then sleep in our own stink, calling this a "political process".
He's making a big deal over a semantics argument. The definition of conservative changes from group to group and year to year. Stop wasting your time on bullshit.
This poll - and my personal experience - shows that Americans still have a far way to go in thinking for themselves. I do believe that theyre definitely starting to wake up, but we still have a far way to go.
Obama is a pre-Neo-Con Republican. Or at least that's how he's run his administration. There are no actual liberals in the government. Period. There are moderates, and there are right wing fascists. That's it. If you know ANYTHING about the political spectrum, you know this to be true, but if you're a right winger, you think that fascism is the norm, so you call anyone anywhere near the political center a leftist, because they're left of your anti-American ass.
Cenk is like that white hair asshole on CNN, think being against their own party makes them look smart or even handed in their job reading a prompter, in my country we call they traitors, two faced or just plain stupid
@ Thrashaero Nice try friend. yes Iron is in our body.
Iron is an absolute requirement for most forms of life, including humans and most bacterial species, because plants and animals all use iron; hence, iron can be found in a wide variety of food sources. Using Iron ore splinters not a good idea bro lol. Tell me bro can you Mine Iron out of Meat, Vegetables etc. lol. Last I remember I never seen anyone mining Animals and fruit for Iron Ore bro. Thanks for the laughs man.
TYT failed on this since he failed to acknowledge the political context in which Obama made those decision. He ran on unity, how could he try not to make bipartisan bills? In the actual political context, that meant exactly what he did : bring conservative ideas to achieve liberal goals and try to bargain with the republicans no matter what. Second, the US president is far from being all powerful because of your checks and balances system. If congress deny the president will, he can't do shit.
@sentenced988 Don't ruin it for the RonTards - they haven't figured out that he won't be elected Supreme Emperor of the Gold Standard, with Free Spliffs and Absolute Liberty for all.
"Christ in the Heliand is a hero of the old Germanic type, an ideal of courage and loyalty,and his disciples are noble vassals from whom he demands unflinching loyalty in return.The background of events in the Heliand is the flat Saxon land with the fresh North Sea.’Nazarethburg,’ ‘Bethlehemsburg,’ ‘Rumuburg (Rome) called up more vivid, if more homely pictures than any description of Palestine or Rome in the hall of a German prince.”
"Christ in the Heliand is a hero of the old Germanic type, an ideal of courage and loyalty,and his disciples are noble vassals from whom he demands unflinching loyalty in return.The background of events in the Heliand is the flat Saxon land with the fresh North Sea.’Nazarethburg,’ ‘Bethlehemsburg,’ ‘Rumuburg (Rome) called up more vivid, if more homely pictures than any description of Palestine or Rome in the hall of a German prince.”
Obama could pull the ultimate troll.....do everything in his power to piss people off to no end, break a few eggs here and there...so that everybody gets so god damn pissed off, and therefore motivated, to gut the system and actually change it from their own efforts. And then he can say hey, that's the only way this shit's gonna change, pissing off the masses. Because it sure as shit isn't even possible to change with any single president directly, but it just might with reverse psychology.
Salomon (sometimes written as Solomon and Solomons in period documents) was a Polishborn Jewish immigrant to America who played an important role in financing the Revolution When the war began, Salomon was operating as a financial broker in New York City He seems to have been drawn early to the Patriot side and was arrested by the British as a spy in 1776. He was pardoned and used by the British as an interpreter with their German troops
First if you want to quote ExterminateKIKEscum find these peoples childeren. Adolf Hitler, Rudolf Hess, Reichsmarshall Hermann Goering, Dr. Josef Goebbels, Gregor Strasser, Alfred Rosenberg, Hans Frank, Heinrich Himmler, Reichsminister von Ribbentrop, SS Leader Reinhard Himmler, and Hitler's bankers, Ritter von Strauss and von Stein. Have at it bro. kill away. lol
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wishen4fishen2 5 days ago
I am probably a .75, more liberal, in the classic sense and not at all progressive. Progressives are just economically incompetent and think their ideas are completely virtuous, so its ok to use force to promote them.
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hobeyho100 2 weeks ago
How is staying out of bullshit wars progressive? I thought that was conserving what the founding fathers believed. Taking extra risks because you're worried about your enemies civilians seems progressive too.
kenny8331 2 weeks ago
just showed this to my ultra conservative, right-wing father who thinks that "obama is the most liberal president we've ever had"... he had no response
margiepie13 1 month ago
hi Pres Obama
agapitopagong 1 month ago
Uncommitted sounds like the perfect thing to kickstart the election with the conversation at the right place. Occupy, not some bullshit Iran, Abortion, Gay, Racism, Reagan, Socialism-thing.
MyTemporaryAccount88 1 month ago
The American people are too politically uneducated; to know what the hell they are!! And half the people, DON’T VOTE AT ALL !!!
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theskepticsskeptic 1 month ago
@MrNYCman530....Did you even watch the video? Obamacare is RomneyCare (originally endorsed by the ultra conservative think tank Heritage Foundation) implemented nationwide. Spreading the wealth? Like you when he renewed Bush's tax cuts? Yeah, that's spreading the wealth. Appeasing Muslims? How about some actual proof instead of spouting off right wing talking points.
davinodf 1 month ago 2
@bannor99 no, what hurts him (and the american people) is the way he can be sold out so easily. a lot of people think that he was going to march into d.c. and chase out all of the bad men overnight, they were not only wrong but were living in a delusional state of mind. politifact(dot)com keeps track of his campaign promises and does a very good job of it. check them out some time and see how many 'promises' were stalled because of 'republicans'.
vengencefrom1979 1 month ago
Obama's liberal when it comes to wanting to give illegals amnesty, suing Arizona, Socialized healthcare, partial birth abortion, appeasing Muslims, spreading the wealth around, etc.
MrNYCman530 1 month ago
@Darrellmeaney Well the difference was that they loved a dumb submissive black candidate, not one who is smarter than the general public. (smarter as in his education at Harvard etc) but ultimately his affairs had him hurting therefore having to quit. Thats my understanding.
BambooScar 1 month ago
@TheOdhisattva I take care of myself and it's none of your business how I do it cause I never asked for your intervention or help in my life. I can't help that you don't understand how this works. By choosing to opt out and take care of myself, I do so with every intention of making my future better than any social program could ever do. I do not agree with being robbed of my money to take care of the needy, helpless humans who are incapable of taking care of themselves.
seededfury 1 month ago
@seededfury I think you sent your reply to the wrong person, 'cause no one cares anything of you
TheOdhisattva 1 month ago
@TheOdhisattva No. I responded directly to your question. I can see you are just a troll.
seededfury 1 month ago
Obama is more conservative than David Cameron, the leader of the conservative party in the UK!
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@CampbellJRMartin The UK has (some(?)) rational conservatives while the US ones are mostly missing their rations of reason.
bannor99 1 month ago
@Desertphile Your fucking head is so full of shit you should be put into a mental asylum. Obama is a Liberal you know why? Because he is feminizing the military, cutting 110,000 marines, cutting 80% of our nukes AND MORE. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND YOU NOTHING. Obama was elected because the average american doesn't know what the hell is going on.
MrConservative95 15 hours ago
If Obama were liberal he would never have been nomnated by the Democrap Party, let alone elected.
Desertphile 1 month ago 14
@septogram7 Yeah, I know a lot of people who plan on voting republican, and I'm like: Are you kidding me?! But they're impossible to argue with! So am I, I s'pose. But I'm using actual facts and they aren't! ARRGH
ZarakiZamusha 1 month ago
@ZarakiZamusha
"ARRGH!" Except with a ton more expletives.
septogram7 1 month ago
the President is a moderate and centerist ! and Americans are ignorant!!! While Congress is out of touch! but you really don't understand what the President did with health Care !!! addicting info dot org/2012/01/04/obamacare-is-already-helping-the-99-now/
NEXUS1A 1 month ago
But wait... how were all of the polls mentioned in this clip conducted? That's a HUGE part of how the results end up to be.
jeebedon 1 month ago
@jeebedon which ones? the ones showing americans for progressive ideas are done by Pew and similar reputable polling institutions. I doubt they do different polls too different, but its old news if you follow polling.
Americans like to say they are conservative when you ask a general ideological position but you ask specific issues people say different.
Thats why they think pushing people into private care is somehow liberal, amongst other positions TYT points out.
waltermh111 1 month ago
Obama is about as liberal as he can be in a country which hedged its bets on y2k, is now preoccupied with 2012, and has a 'God' which killed Rock Hudson back in the 1980's. by the time 2020 rolls around maybe people will see better, but by then it will be too late, the world will be in the middle of peak oil, global warming will be in full swing and it will be decades if not centuries before the dust settles. retards.
vengencefrom1979 1 month ago
@vengencefrom1979 Not at all; most of the folks who voted for him WANTED a liberal president and bought into his promises. What hurt him was the stupid, pointless bartering he did to win RightWingNutJobs over. If he'd come in on Day One saying "Single-payer healthcare is the way to go, we're going to do it, and we'll do it right and to anyone who says different I say, YES, WE CAN!", he would have gotten it through AND would have kept control of the House, TeaBaggers be damned.
bannor99 1 month ago
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but what does "liberal" and "conservative" even mean? I tried to determine for myself by looking at "conservative" vs "liberal" politicians, but I swear they all act the same....
TheCreeperhunter 1 month ago
@TheCreeperhunter Be careful not to assume that a politicans is liberal just because his opponent calls him this or he's a dem. Or in the case of other countries, being part of a party that has liberal in the name. That doesn't' make them liberal.
From Wiki-"Liberalism is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights."
Liberalism has evolved over time, mainly in how they think bets to meet those goals & what is possible.
booley 1 month ago
@booley Ty :)
TheCreeperhunter 1 month ago
@booley Then there's Neuro scientist George Lakoff that said that the primary difference between libs & cons is the metaphor they use to think about government & how they prioritize different values.
For instance, cons tend to push self discipline over empathy. Liberals generally favor empathy.
I tend to favor this a sI can see it in action when I talk to people who describe themselves as Conservatives and Liberals
Anyway, this is probably too complex a subject to sum up on a post here.
booley 1 month ago
In general, people don't really know what these terms really mean. Many people think pols are liberal just because they are Democrats, which is not true. However, most Republicans are conservative.
BottleConcreteBlond 1 month ago
I think people should keep in min the difference between conservatism and corporatism, true conservatism everything is a cost/benefit analysis and if a program/department isn't achieving the goal and wasting money then they get rid of it, I'd not consider myself a conservative but a lot of people mistake one thin for another because they do not understand the difference of definitions or they have been told by the media one thing when in reality it's another.
Cryptlord9999 1 month ago 2
I think he is glossing over the abortion and gay marriage issues to prove an incorrect point…
TinyJiant 1 month ago
get em Cenk
m1st3rlak3 1 month ago
its ridiculous how this country flip flops. when there is a democratic majority in the senate and a democratic president, you are conservative, when there is the opposite, most people are democratic. The problem is that the only options for electable officials consists of corrupt figureheads for each party, no one is in the middle.
kwoffy 1 month ago
This just shows how ignorant the populous is.
Forget the media not doing their job, if people aren't even able to accurately define their own political views then what hope is there?
Saaduk92 1 month ago
liberal would say ohh lets save the whales. no killed whales. oh the horror.
now a conservative would say lets put a couple of tour boat out there and charge people $50 to watch a whale take a giant dump in the ocean. come on people lets get with the program and make a profit out of these fucking whales.
churupaca1 1 month ago
@churupaca1 No a conservative would say lets keep killign whales for oil becuase we dont' want to destroy the whaling jobs.
What? Whales are going extinct because of hunting? that's just another liberal hoax like climate change so scientists can destroy capitalism!
Seriously, do you really believe liberals never thought of eco tourism? Are you actually that stupid?
booley 1 month ago
liberal = anal sex. most of america is not gay.
churupaca1 1 month ago
@churupaca1 Tell that to the Republicans. Conservative = closeted, self-hating queer.
R4t10n4L 1 month ago 4
@R4t10n4L You sound conservative!
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@LetFreedomR1ng Regrettably both you and Marcus Bachmann suffer from the same projective delusion.
R4t10n4L 1 month ago
@R4t10n4L Regrettably your just an idiot trying to sound smart. What projective delusion? Say it first next time, instead of a senseless accusation without any supporting examples. Geese
LetFreedomR1ng 1 month ago
@LetFreedomR1ng Before you accuse someone of idiocy, you should turn on spellcheck. And, it helps your own case if you apply a little brainpower first.
What do we know about Marcus Bachmann? What is his best-known comment on being gay?
bannor99 1 month ago
@bannor99 Senseless babbling fool
LetFreedomR1ng 1 month ago
@LetFreedomR1ng Is that how your alter-ego refers to you? How unkind of her or him.
bannor99 1 month ago
@bannor99 Ya man.. ya, couldn't help myself. Who are... what was your... um... fuck off ok :)
LetFreedomR1ng 1 month ago
@churupaca1 "liberal = anal sex."
then why is conservatives that keep wanting people screwed up the ass?
At least Liberals understand the value of lube.
booley 1 month ago
This just proves that americans so fucking stupid...they don't even know what ideology defines them. The simple fact that most of the americans support the social programs that obama is trying to cut should tell them that obama is more to the right than an average american. But they are too dumb to figure that out. Just attaching fabricated stigma to words like socialism and liberalism on daily basis by MSM worked like a charm. Fucking pathetic
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Government should provide free education and healthcare to all! That is our rights, and leaving it up to the enslavers of capitalism is bogus and up for corruption. the government represents the people's interest and should therefore work without making a profit while the rich, who have a responsibiliity to society, must provide as well. that is my left leaning policies, call it socialist or whatever, and i can tell you, OBAMA IS NOT A SOCIALIST
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ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
Obama is a NeoCon . If you still believe what he says, instead of what he is doing then there is little hope for this country.
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Premier112 1 month ago
The thing is, no matter how much you guys claim to be, you are NOT liberal either. You are social democrats.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
how is ending wars not conservative? true conservatives oppose government power and waste. freedom is consertive. liberal is the government controlling the people. dont confuse republican with conservative.
yellamokram 1 month ago
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"freedom is consertive. liberal is the government controlling the people"
This statement couldn't be more stupid if you tried. You know the history of liberalism? The first liberals were people like the ones that started the French Revolution, the Paris Commune etc. Conservatives were the ones that supported the Ancien Regime, the monarchial neofeudal status quo, in those days.
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@SSTTEEAALLTTHH So true, Liberalism has a track record of changing the world, Liberalism is the reason society progresses. Conservatives today would like to get you to believe society has progressed enough, but who are they fooling?! Just like Socrates talking about how 'lazy and rude' children of his day were (Over 2000 years ago!), conservatives have been pressing this 'society has progressed enough' bullshit since times of monarchy!
insertnamehereKJK 1 month ago
@insertnamehereKJK It's the only product they have to sell - pure bullshit. Unfortunately, centuries of practice have made them very, very good at both making and selling it.
R4t10n4L 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Classic definition of Liberal pertains to Liberty. It was originally used for those who were believers in the market.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1
For people like Adam Smith perhaps, but people like Rousseau, Locke, Von Humboldt mainly questioned to submission to institutions of power, such as the Church, government and in various cases (like Rousseau) land-owners. The best example and the father of liberalism, John Locke, focused not so much on economy but foremost on the social contract as it existed. He resisted the status quo by claiming the government should derive authority from consent, not from forcefulness.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Classical Liberals are not Liberals in the modern sense.Smith was also a classical Liberal. Milton Friedman`s book, Capitalism & Freedom uses the word Liberal throughout, after an explanation of what it means. Social Contract to Locke was simply Govt protecting our lives, Liberty, property in the State, has NOTHING to do with any safety net "social contracts".
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1
What do safety nets have to do with anything? I've never heard classical liberals argue for safety nets. That does not mean they were all free market capitalists or defenders of property rights. Rousseau again, argued against property rights in his famous quote about the man who fenced his land (pretty long to paste, look up if you don't know it), and many liberals later saw the philosophical bankruptcy of property, as well as the coercive nature that follows from this.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Because I have know way to determine where you are coming from, or what you mean to say, or what you believe. I am clarifying, to figure it out. Certainly, you must agree that Liberal means something different today, than previously. I have little time right now, but how is it possible, for Liberal, in the past use, to have belief in private property, and not? Maybe it does, but this is fundamental.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 " Certainly, you must agree that Liberal means something different today, than previously"
Ok you know you could just look it up. While wikipedia isn't perfect, it does lay out the very thing you say you dont' understand. I found it in all of 2 seconds (the time it took me to type "Liberalism"
This seems to be a common theme to your posts. You argue from what you believe to be true rather then making sure what you say is true.
booley 1 month ago
@luvcheney1
If you're arguing against property rights, it's pretty impossible to support capitalism or the 'free market'. Yet Rousseau never spoke of a safety net. You can be against capitalism and be a classical liberal without being in favor of social safety nets. Plenty of liberals disagreed with capitalism.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@luvcheney1
People like John Locke are closer to modern day anarchists (philosophical anarchists at least, to a lesser degree practical anarchists as well) than to social liberals or even free market libertarians on many issues.
Radical liberals in Spain for example had little binding with the free market and became very tied with the anarchist community, rather than the free-market conservatives.
Many liberals, like Rousseau strongly resisted capitalism as obstructive to freedom.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Believers in free markets generally are not anarchists at all. The Constitution outlines role for Fed Govt, in Article 1, Sect 8. Index of Economic Freedom, lists qualities it considers essential for freedom, shows need for Govt, Milton Friedman outlines role for Govt, etc. Govt must protect against violence from outside, and inside, allowing commerce without violent coercion. Contract laws, and enforcement, courts, "neighborhood effects", etc
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@yellamokram
People like Von Humbolt, Locke, Smith, etc (pioneers in philosophy on freedom) were all liberal and they loathed conservatives.
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@yellamokram
People like John Stuart Mill, one of the biggest philophers on freedom said stuff like: "Not all conservatives are stupid but most stupid people are conservative.". Conservatives are controlling bastards, they want to check ever aspect of your life. Conservatism is about hierarchy and control, it always has been. From feudalism to today.
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@yellamokram
Conservatives are reactionaries, all throughout history. In every revolution that strived for a bit more freedom, from France to Russia, from Spain to South-America, from the US to Britain, conservatives were the reactionaries that were trying to defend the aristocratic and hierarchial status quo.
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I think America is very conservative. You don't even say your liberal, you say you're 'progressive' because 'liberal' is somehow a taboo word. Obama is centre right - the rest are extreme right.
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Conservativism:
The belief that a position one achieved through progress can be kept by making a halt.
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@TheLivirus good start...needs a little work. Maybe change the end to "can succeed through stagnation"?
aaronpolitical 1 month ago
Liberals were so outraged over Gitmo when Bush was in office --- never hear a shitting ass thing about it now.
Liberals were so outraged at civilian war casualties --- even though there's been a record number of civilian casualties w/Obama's drone attacks, Liberals & Code Pink freaks aren't going ape-shit in the streets anymore.
Liberals are hypocritical & hideous brain-diseased creatures.
2010GOP 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 If my proposals are "big government" then what do you propose?
Stingerbillion 1 month ago
@Stingerbillion Less Govt. Applying Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution as intended, to define Federal Power. Letting States enact Govt healthcare, or other causes that are NOT enumerated under the constitution ( 10th Amendment), if there is voter support in States to do so. The problem NOW is that Social Security, as example, has folks who paid already their entire lives, under heavy tax burdens, and need it, as Govt took some of their ability to voluntarily save.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@CrazyCheeseMagee You can be both, y'know? My friend who is a Socialist is very liberal.
TheAssesKicker 1 month ago
@TheAssesKicker I mean that liberal means center-left. Socialist is more left-wing than liberal. I'm liberal in my politics, being quite economically left and socially libertarian (hence I identify as a libertarian socialist) but I don't consider myself A liberal because I am more left-wing than a lot of liberals. Liberals and other social democrats are still capitalists; socialists are not.
CrazyCheeseMagee 1 month ago
@CrazyCheeseMagee Socialism is NOT more left-wing than liberalism and liberal doesn't mean center-left. Like I said, you can be a Liberal Socialist. I don't know what kind of Liberals are you talking about because I've never seen em'. Why do you think a lot of Conservatives hate us? Because we're very left-wing. Most libertarians I've met are way less left-wing than me and they support Ron Paul.
TheAssesKicker 1 month ago
@TheAssesKicker We just have a different meaning of liberal. What I mean by "liberals" are those who push for social democracy but still want to keep capitalism and don't support actual socialism, which is a system in which the means of production are owned either collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
CrazyCheeseMagee 1 month ago
@CrazyCheeseMagee The people you're talking about, I wouldn't call them Liberals. They seem like moderates to me. I don't think we should have a different meaning of Liberal because we should look at the actual meaning of Liberal and accept it as it is.
TheAssesKicker 1 month ago
@TheAssesKicker Maybe what you mean by "liberalism" is "A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority," as it is stated in the American Heritage Dictionary, and is something I definitely support, but as libertarian socialism like Noam Chomsky does, not libertarian capitalism like Ron Paul does.
CrazyCheeseMagee 1 month ago
@CrazyCheeseMagee Liberal was used earlier in our history to mean a believer in free markets. It comes from, obviously "Liberty". Passing laws on Social Security, MediCare, MediCaid, ObamaCare simply mean the Govt is going to take taxes from people, and then dole out Healthcare back to us, through a Govt plan. When Govt forces me to be taxed, and join their systems, I have less Liberty to choose my own way. I have no desire to impose anything on you, but you do, to me.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 "When Govt forces me to be taxed, and join their systems, I have less Liberty to choose my own way."
Ont he contary youc an choose your own way.
You can forgo society andliv eina cave and pay NO taxes.
yet strangely no libertarian has yet to do so.
As they say, freedom isn't free. I mean I suppose my electricity bill makes me less "free". But it's a small cost to my need for electricity.
BTW, I guess you didn't hear. "Obama care" is actually the conservative plan from the 90s
booley 1 month ago
obama used to be my nigga. now he just a nigga fuck that wigga cracker. wish i could take my vote back...
MALIRIPPA 1 month ago
Well DUH!! We all know, only too well, that so-called "liberals" have no problem killing their own citizens. As was very horrifically demonstrated by Bill Clinton and his “Attorney General”, head of the “justice” department, J. Reno, at both Ruby Ridge Idaho and at the Branch Davidians compound in Waco Texas.
rubiconski2008 1 month ago
@rubiconski2008 You idiot, that was a psycho jesus reincarnate with a ton of underage girls he was raping and a small armed army with military grade weapons.
electronicoffee 1 month ago
Large swaths of America has a IQ of 100 or less. Meaning when you watch the news everything needs to be at a 6th grade level. Did you know all News Papers are 6th grade in nature. It's do to majority. The news Networks know the majority of people who read them can only understand things meaning "Comprehend" at a 6th grade zone. We as a country is fucked. We been fucked for over 30 years now.
America is stripped clean the smart people are planning for China now that’s the New World.
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
@ChrisDasSlasher But gee! How dare you call our big govt, union monopoly in public education a failure! We do spend more than the Asia Pacif Region, dont we? Out teachers get better benefits, dont they? Nice vacations? Pensions? THAT is what matters, not actual education.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 "We do spend more than the Asia Pacif Region, "
I always find it amusing when people who want to blast US public education, hold up as examples countries where education is nationalized and typically teachers in better positions.
Well at least you didn't use Finland.
BTW, interesting factoid... if Massechusetts was taken as it's own country, it would rank along with the best Asian countries in education.
booley 1 month ago
The problem is that Americans have a radically skewed understanding of the political spectrum. Most of them have moderate liberal views, but the Republicans have shifted the dialogue so far right that the scale has lost meaning.
oddcatalyst 1 month ago
Large swaths of America has a IQ of 90 or less. The retards are over populating America so in return we have stupid presidents, senators etc… It’s a domino effect stupid citizens’ vote for stupid people who in return make stupid policies and stupid moves in our country so we end up broke. Learn and educate yourself you the people vote these idiots so in return you are a idiot as well. "Simple Minds Make Simple Outcomes." So learn and change.
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It is wild to see 12 thumbs up on grade school name calling but when people show facts and reson you get no thumbs up or even worse people redicule you.
We are living in a world where its cool to be fucking retared. "Obama is Bush on crack..." this quote is fucking retared with the 12 people who thought it was funny.
Our Freedom of Chose make you all stupid do to you all choose to be fucking retards.
Bums, Idiots and Morons - World Perception of Americans
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ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
The people who post on here latly I have one quote for this madness.
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
@ExterminateKIKEscum ok I know where you are coming from now. I'm sorry that you are a disabled man. Have you ever asked for mental help? Today there are pills that can help you.
Take care
-Chris- =)
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
This guy is unbelievable. He keeps bashing Fox News and Conservatives nonstop about bashing Liberals. Yet he runs the most radical Liberal webshow. Hilarious.
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wow whole lot of racism going on here, you guys should be ashamed.
eman9416 1 month ago
Cenk know his stuff
dapperdonmilli 1 month ago
Cenk you are so right on what you said. But It don't matter if you vote Right or Left.
Everyone here that is not related or in with these guys you are just Simpletons or Serfs. It’s the truth. The future many of you will have nothing.
The United States Is The East India Company’s Endeavor.
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Listen to this guy. People like this when they speak they mean what they say.
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ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
I've watched TYT for a long time, and my conclusion about Americans and polls is that they don't understand the questions.
superhamzah85 1 month ago 4
@ExterminateKIKEscum Here is a family tree showing that all white people are Khazar/Germans.
Material evidence from archaeology and archaeogenetics show PIE speakers cannot be assumed to have been a single, identifiable people or tribe. Rather, they were a group of loosely related populations. Meaning we are related but we may be Russian, Polish, German etc. But we are all from the same stock.
INDO-EUROPEAN ORIGIN
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ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
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@ExterminateKIKEscum I am really trying to understand you but when you say and quote: "I only like Slavic people thati s about it." You are claiming you are a Khazar Jew or in you're words a KIKE. Khazaria was a polyethnic-multifaith state with a population of Turkic, Uralic, Slavic, and Palaeo-Caucasian peoples. During the 8th century, the Khazar royalty and much of the aristocracy converted to a form of Judaism. If you claim to be a Polish Slavic you are a you're quote KIKE/ Pagan Jew.
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
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@ExterminateKIKEscum I agree with you it is the Germans that rule the world it always been that way. But Many of the Germans that Rule claim to be Jewish instead of being German do to their Khazar heritage and Byzantine Empire background. All German Royalty could technically claim Jew do to Khazar Judaism conversion from paganism in the 8th century. And most do who live in Israel today. Half of Germans are pagan converted Jews the other half are Pagan Converted Chritians from Charlemagne.
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
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ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
RON PAUL 2012!
Kalamal0o 1 month ago
Obama is a moderate with some left leaning tendencies. He told us this in his campaign. People just did not listen.
alansjf33 1 month ago 13
@alansjf33 obama bailed out the banks and extended the bush tax cut. is that moderate with some left leaning tendencies? before you tell me he did'nt you make want to pull your head out of your ass and check
l3urns1 1 month ago
@l3urns1 Actually, Obama was only a Senator at the time of the TARP legislation (bank bailout). Now, I hate the first Pinko Pres as much as the next guy, but get your facts straight. I encourage you to look up the party line vote on the TARP bill, and note that the degree of support for it was FAR higher from Dems, than Republicans. So, if you hate bank bailouts, Republicans represented you better. Conservative Reps. Obama voted FOR bailouts, as did most all Libs.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 obama appointed all of bush's staff to emplement tarp. that means obama put tarp into effect. and are you trying to get me to become a conservative? you're out of your fucking mind
l3urns1 1 month ago
@l3urns1 Regardless of who ran TARP, bank bailouts were far more heavily supported by Democrats. That is easy enough for you to check. Conservatives are more likely to believe in free market principles, and bailing out anyone is not one of them. Bush/ McCain were for TARP too, But they are not that conservative.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 both sides are ran by the corperations. almost everyone in office sold us out. its not a republican democrat thing. pull your head out of your ass and get a breath of fresh air pal
l3urns1 1 month ago
@l3urns1 In House, Dems said YES to TARP 98.6%, Reps 32.4%. It was far closer in Senate, but still Dems Said YES 77.5%, Reps 54.5%. Free market as an ideology ( which isnt ALL Reps) indicates opposition to bailouts, of any kind. Opposing bailing out Goldman Sachs, GM, B of A, and also 2 yrs of unemployment compensation, food stamps is ideologically consistent. 99% folks oppose corp bailouts, but seem to support bailing out homeowners, student loans, etc. That is inconsistent.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 all of your efforts become null and void once you take into account the lobbiest factor. your beating a dead hoarse friend. both side of the house and senate are bought and paid for by private sector. lets call it what it is. a whore house. evil doesnt exist. when you correctly label an entity it is fairly judged. it will correct itself if we look at them for the dirty scankiin sluts that they are.
l3urns1 1 month ago
@l3urns1 Note you avoid actually even caring how the Political Parties voted on an issue of importance and consequence to you. If Govt was not involved in making decisions in the market in the first place, lobbying would be unnecessary. There is no point in lobbying if Govt isnt involved. So again, those who support the greatest degree of govt intrusion are causing the greatest degree of lobbying.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 our govt shouldn't be paid by lobbiest because then do what the lobbiest want and not what the people want. their job is public service, not private service. and since both democrats and republicans are bought, there votes represent coperations will, not ours. you can care what party did what but there both corrupt so fuck yourself
l3urns1 1 month ago
@l3urns1 This is easy. Corporations wouldnt lobby, if govt wasnt getting involved in business in the first place. It would be a waste of time, if govt left things alone. But, lots of people want the govt to make a lot of rules, so business needs to get involved, out of necessity. Libs like you, who want regulations and rules, created the monster in the first place.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
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@luvcheney1 "Corporations wouldnt lobby, if govt wasnt getting involved in business in the first place."
Wow.. just wow. That has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard here. And we're on you tube.
I can't go into detail on how exactly this is wrong to put it politely. there's just enough space.
But here's a start.
Yes they would still lobby because they wish to make a favorable environment to make money in. Gov provides the best way to do that even at others expense.
booley 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 to do what your thinking we need to get rid of buisnesses too. and since that wil never happen we need govt. you should pull your head out of limbaugh's fat ass
l3urns1 1 month ago
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l3urns1 1 month ago
@alansjf33 ObamaCare is as faaaaaar left as it gets. Passing ObamaCare against the American peoples wish is 100% progressive
PatriotWatchUSA 1 month ago
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Gadfly25 1 month ago
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@PatriotWatchUSA Obamacare is a right wing program. A left wing program would be single payer (like Canada) or the public option (Medicare for all). Forcing everyone to buy private insurance with no cost control measures is actually as far right as it gets.
You teahadists need to get a clue. Fascism isn't left wing.
Gadfly25 1 month ago
@Gadfly25 Before Obama, Govt already paid 50% of healthcare cost. A free market solution would indicate far closer to zero. The Cost control measures employed in Canada, UK, etc reduce availability of care. Doctors in Canada, UK see 50% more patients daily. Dialysis availability is 4 times greater in US. Angioplasty, and bypass many times more available as well. US invents 55% of worlds internationally used branded drugs. Price controls today, and in 3rd century Rome, create shortages.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@luvcheney1 "The Cost control measures employed in Canada, UK, etc reduce availability of care."
Then how do canadians and britons keep living longer then us, have lower infant mortality and are generally more healthy? Our health care is alot more free market then thier is. Even when the government pays, it's still a private facility doing the work.
Yes the free market does make some nice toys. And then denies them to anyone who cant' pay out the ass.
booley 1 month ago
@booley Our healthcare system was not free market before Obama, it was 50% govt financed anyway already. Obesity is not a result of 50% of the system being private pay, and that by far is reason of many bad health results in the US. In the US, many low birth weight babies are saved, but a high percent of early births are lost, at high cost, and are statistically accounted for. Many foreign nations do not count very early births.
luvcheney1 1 month ago
@alansjf33 Not quite. He's a moderate conservative with some centrist leanings. But the issue I have with him is that he didn't stand and fight for the things he promised in his campaign.
R4t10n4L 1 month ago
@R4t10n4L: Obama didn't have to "fight" for shit his first 2 years ---- he had a Democrat House & Senate, with even a super-majority for a time. Reality is a little different from the skittle-shitting unicorn utopia he promised, huh?
2010GOP 1 month ago
@2010GOP You're reinforcing my point. Why would a hardcore leftist with a supermajority give a flying fuck about what a bunch of hayseed, RadicalRightWingNut, teabagging Jesus freaks thought?
Answer: He wouldn't. But a DINO would and that's what he really is and has always been.
R4t10n4L 1 month ago
@R4t10n4L: You're a very confused individual. It has nothing to do with "right-wing" or DINO. It has to do with idiots believing in grandeur fairytale speeches, making promises that never aligned with reality & common-sense in the first place.
Obama's other horseshit was passed, none of it "right-wing": failed stimulus, failed cash-for-clunkers program, bullshit h/c bill that's caused premiums to skyrocket, failed mortgage rescue, additional so-called jobs bill, etc.
2010GOP 1 month ago
@2010GOP Stimulus and bailouts were getting passed before he was elected and there were quite a few warnings from analysts that it wasn't nearly enough.
The healthcare bill is weak because he caved on the things that would have definitely made it better but most of the things that are in it, or that was proposed ARE ALL ORIGINALLY REPUBLICAN IDEAS!!
The cash-for-clunkers passed with over 300 votes - if every Dem voted for it, then more than 65% of the GOPreps also vote AYE.
R4t10n4L 1 month ago
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@R4t10n4L Politics. Us "hayseed, RadicalRightWingNut, teabagging Jesus freaks" have an idea of political organizing. We dont sleep on the ground, shit in parks, and smoke weed all night, and then sleep in our own stink, calling this a "political process".
luvcheney1 1 month ago
This poll reveals the power of propaganda very clearly. Democracy is dead, buried and forgotten.
Miranox2 1 month ago
He's making a big deal over a semantics argument. The definition of conservative changes from group to group and year to year. Stop wasting your time on bullshit.
Sovnarkom 1 month ago
Goes to show that people don't really know anything about politics.
oexnorth 1 month ago
This poll - and my personal experience - shows that Americans still have a far way to go in thinking for themselves. I do believe that theyre definitely starting to wake up, but we still have a far way to go.
CommunistWarrior1917 1 month ago
Will we ever found out what happened to Cenk's forehead?
TheJoaker 1 month ago in playlist The Young Turks Show December 29, 2011
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Ron Paul 2012!
He stands against draconian bills like SOPA, NDAA and the Patriot Act.
Less government spending, less taxation to American Citizens, and a budget plan that works.
This man has been fighting for your personal freedom and the separation of congress from big business for years.
He has fought against the war on drugs, foreign wars, the federal reserve, nation building, and corporate bail outs.
Vote for liberty this year. Vote for real change.
Thumb up and spread the message!
RapsAlive 1 month ago
Obama is a pre-Neo-Con Republican. Or at least that's how he's run his administration. There are no actual liberals in the government. Period. There are moderates, and there are right wing fascists. That's it. If you know ANYTHING about the political spectrum, you know this to be true, but if you're a right winger, you think that fascism is the norm, so you call anyone anywhere near the political center a leftist, because they're left of your anti-American ass.
dEdGrimley 1 month ago
also, I experienced as much homophobia from the progressives as I did from the far right in the US...
MrSpemat 1 month ago in playlist Weitere Videos von TheYoungTurks
Obama is Bush on crack...
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Obama is an Israeli puppet, just like Bush was, McCain could have been, and Mitt or Romney might be.
SHEEPLEwhisperer 1 month ago 3
Cenk is like that white hair asshole on CNN, think being against their own party makes them look smart or even handed in their job reading a prompter, in my country we call they traitors, two faced or just plain stupid
derberg19486 1 month ago
@derberg19486 Enjoy your country, wherever that may be. Here it called speaking truth to power.
R4t10n4L 1 month ago
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ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
@ Thrashaero Nice try friend. yes Iron is in our body.
Iron is an absolute requirement for most forms of life, including humans and most bacterial species, because plants and animals all use iron; hence, iron can be found in a wide variety of food sources. Using Iron ore splinters not a good idea bro lol. Tell me bro can you Mine Iron out of Meat, Vegetables etc. lol. Last I remember I never seen anyone mining Animals and fruit for Iron Ore bro. Thanks for the laughs man.
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
TYT failed on this since he failed to acknowledge the political context in which Obama made those decision. He ran on unity, how could he try not to make bipartisan bills? In the actual political context, that meant exactly what he did : bring conservative ideas to achieve liberal goals and try to bargain with the republicans no matter what. Second, the US president is far from being all powerful because of your checks and balances system. If congress deny the president will, he can't do shit.
sentenced988 1 month ago
@sentenced988 Don't ruin it for the RonTards - they haven't figured out that he won't be elected Supreme Emperor of the Gold Standard, with Free Spliffs and Absolute Liberty for all.
R4t10n4L 1 month ago
@R4t10n4L Damnit I was looking forward to all that Freedom I was finally going to get.
*puts away world domination devices*
aaronpolitical 1 month ago
I AM PAKISTANI.STOP PUSHING US AND TELL NATO TO GO HOME.HAPPY NEW YEAR
armourdaddy805 1 month ago
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@ ExterminateKIKEscum
A good German is a got Fearing man.
"Christ in the Heliand is a hero of the old Germanic type, an ideal of courage and loyalty,and his disciples are noble vassals from whom he demands unflinching loyalty in return.The background of events in the Heliand is the flat Saxon land with the fresh North Sea.’Nazarethburg,’ ‘Bethlehemsburg,’ ‘Rumuburg (Rome) called up more vivid, if more homely pictures than any description of Palestine or Rome in the hall of a German prince.”
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
@ ExterminateKIKEscum
A good German is a got Fearing man.
"Christ in the Heliand is a hero of the old Germanic type, an ideal of courage and loyalty,and his disciples are noble vassals from whom he demands unflinching loyalty in return.The background of events in the Heliand is the flat Saxon land with the fresh North Sea.’Nazarethburg,’ ‘Bethlehemsburg,’ ‘Rumuburg (Rome) called up more vivid, if more homely pictures than any description of Palestine or Rome in the hall of a German prince.”
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
Obama could pull the ultimate troll.....do everything in his power to piss people off to no end, break a few eggs here and there...so that everybody gets so god damn pissed off, and therefore motivated, to gut the system and actually change it from their own efforts. And then he can say hey, that's the only way this shit's gonna change, pissing off the masses. Because it sure as shit isn't even possible to change with any single president directly, but it just might with reverse psychology.
Thrashaero 1 month ago
@ ExterminateKIKEscum
Haym Salomon (ca. 1740 - 1785)
Salomon (sometimes written as Solomon and Solomons in period documents) was a Polishborn Jewish immigrant to America who played an important role in financing the Revolution When the war began, Salomon was operating as a financial broker in New York City He seems to have been drawn early to the Patriot side and was arrested by the British as a spy in 1776. He was pardoned and used by the British as an interpreter with their German troops
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
@ ExterminateKIKEscum
First if you want to quote ExterminateKIKEscum find these peoples childeren. Adolf Hitler, Rudolf Hess, Reichsmarshall Hermann Goering, Dr. Josef Goebbels, Gregor Strasser, Alfred Rosenberg, Hans Frank, Heinrich Himmler, Reichsminister von Ribbentrop, SS Leader Reinhard Himmler, and Hitler's bankers, Ritter von Strauss and von Stein. Have at it bro. kill away. lol
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
@ ExterminateKIKEscum
I would ask you to research "Guinea Pig Zero" who knows maybe someone you know may be on my families operation table.
H.-B. KLEEBERG & G. KOPLITZ-WEISSGERBER
Hochschule der Bundeswehr M'unchen , Werner-
Heisenberg-Weg 39, 8014 Neuhiberg, FR Germany
"Ihr letztes Hemd"
/watch?v=PCRfv0t_rVY&list=UU-31yKFRj3HpEyrfFN4pqNQ&index=10&feature=plcp
Guinea Pig Zero is an occupational jobzine for people who are used as medical or pharmaceutical research subjects.
ChrisDasSlasher 1 month ago
Obama is to the RIGHT of the country on issues. Wake up Obama.
TheNavigateur 1 month ago
obama is (NOT) getting re-elected
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