ahhaha You forgot to show us the ethnographic maps of the balkans since ancient times....but if you show us those ancient maps we can not see any of those NEW 19th century CREATED NATIONS as serbs,bulgars and greeks...there will be only ANCIENT MACEDONIA and the MACEDONIANS! ahhahah
It is a totally fake map... I mean it presents have of Greece as Albanians. My village is next to Albanian, in the region of Epirus, but they used to spoke Greek, and they did fights against Albanians in order Epirus to be free...
južni Sloveni su bili authtoni narod koji je živeo u planinama balkana ili u ropstvu. Nakon 6 veka oni ojačavaju kao narod i naseljuju ravnice. Deo južnih slavena naseljava i asimilira makedonce i pajonce. Bugari nastaju kasnije, kao mešavina slavena i tatara.Nisu današnji slavenski makedonci bugari već obratno. Grčka ne priznaje slavenske makedonce (do 1986 nisu priznavali ni antičke) zbog genocida 1913-48, a Bugarska ne priznaje jer sama ima krizu identiteta.
@ichalkias13 No shit?! What about Serbian part?! Macedonia has been divided by Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia after the Balkan Wars 1912-1913. Ethnically and historically Serbia has a right on a piece of Macedonia. So called Macedonians are not just Bulgarians and Greeks, large part of them are actually Serbs. I agree there's no such thing as "Macedonian" ethnicity, but they are NOT Bulgarians
@Vitloable No you divided it with Greeks behind our back while you were fighting the Turks. And you did genocides in macedonia in 1945 - more then 23 000 people. Why would you kill your own nation ? Fyromans are Bulgarians !!
I'm also right when I say that all the Balkans were united before the Ottoman occupation. Now that the Turks are gone, we should look to rebuild what they tried to destroy.
Of course, there are great powers that don't want this to happen.
I wonder if they don't want that to happen for our good or for their good...
@lnedeljkovic The only serbian about Macedonia is all the brainwashing that your Tito did during former Yugoslavia and nothing else In fact all of east Serbia is Bulgaria but you guys are just squashing our rights all the Time Guess what - No More
Don't get me wrong Nothing agains you personally but just go read some West Eropean History about the Balcans!
@IllyriPower Actually just 1/3 albanian and 2/3 Bulgarian and you know as well as I do that this happened recently as result of stupid postserbian-macedonian politic of the contry because they were not albanian att all before that Anyways I just hope that in near future the opposite dosen't happen and you guys get 2/3 of it
хехехе па немам бугарска подршка на компјутерот па ми фалат букви од оригиналната кирилица која ја користите вие, иначе браво перфектно напиша на македонски јас не би можел така добро на бугарски а кога сме кај јазикот комунистите ја сменија нашата азбука и не сум горд на тоа лично би сакал да ја користиме оригиналната кирилица бидејки таа е азбуката на која пишувале моите дедовци!
so what there are also international maps created in the early 1900 that shows Macedonians like nation! Today Macedonia exist because Tito finaly give us the justice! This part (VARDAR) were we live now was under Serbia and we all know for the PIRIN part and the Eagean part! If Tito is our creator why people in PIRIN and Eagean are fighting for justice to be recognited like Macedonians? Why they are not claiming to be Bulgarians or Greeks ? my answer is because they are MACEDONIANS !!!
@MrMAKEDONEC80 learn from where? From the Titostan's communist sci-fiction books? hahaha! Look the maps carefully my friend. No macedonian in Macedonoa, just BULGARIAN. Macedonian in Macedonia like nation before 1944 with thanks by Tito - the father, the creator, the god of "macedonian nation".
@ivankoinarski Hahahha u are stupid TATAR ! This maps are created by a TATAR and its normal MACEDONIA not to be in it ! Write:
Macedonians on The Old Maps (Original Documents)
and u will find international maps of the Balkan in which the Macedonians are showed like a different nation,Tito was child when this maps ware created.
@IArYAI so what there are also international maps created in the early 1900 that shows Macedonians like nation! Today Macedonia exist because Tito finaly give us the justice! This part (VARDAR) were we live now was under Serbia and we all know for the PIRIN part and the Eagean part! If Tito is our creator why people in PIRIN and Eagean are fighting for justice to be recognited like Macedonians? Why they are not claiming to be Bulgarians or Greeks ? my answer is because they are MACEDONIANS !!!
@PatorceMF < well, these ARE international maps. also, if you feel that Tito is your man that's fine with me. and .. i'm one of those Pirin people you are talking about and i don't feel "Macedonian" the way you mean it, and i don't know any one else there who feels that way. You are implying something like ethnic Macedonians who would be Greeks but i'm not.
@PatorceMF всички карти са от други държави нито една българска а твоите (4) всички са когато македония е част от сърбия която създава македонската нация
@ivankoinarski Learn from ur stupid history that u only ocupied Macedonia and u forced Macedonians to learn bulgarian language and to sign that they are Bulgarians! That is Terror but not biger from the Greek terror when they made a genocide on Macedonian people in Eagean part of macedonia killing more then 100 000 people and forcing 500 000 people to leave their property ! No mather what u do we are still here fighting for our rights !!! ONE LIVE ONE LOVE MACEDONIA 4EVER !!
@PatorceMF < So ones inslaved by Serbia in 1913 Macedonians were forced and terrorized to learn Serbian language and to declare that they are not Bulgarians.
@PatorceMF < It seams you are totally confused about "your Macedonian" history. First of all two of the leaders of BMOPO (IMRO) , Gotse Delchev and Dame Gruev were teachers of Bulgarian language in Štip (macedonia) , also all flags of the BMOPO (IMRO) are written in Bulgarian where it clearly says - "МАКЕДОНИЯ" and not the Serbian spelling "МАКЕДОНIJA" you use now, as well as "СВОБОДА ИЛИ СМЪРТЪ" and NOT the Serbian "СЛОБОДА ИЛИ СМРТ"
@PatorceMF когато България е под турско робство македония е под българско така ли смешно е подледни картите има преди 1878 когато България е под турско робство и нямам как да стане това което ти се опитваш да пробуташ като идея а и аз съм от пиринско и дядо ми е разказвал истории за начина по които се е направила македонската нация
@1914levski1914 Dude i am not one way noob ! Macedonia is Bulgarian teritory way before the Turks come on Balkan! Bulgarian king Konstantin V took over Macedonia in VIII century and since that time Macedonia is Bulgarian teritory and since then Bulgarians make presure on Macedonians to become Bulgars and today is the same propaganda! Kiril and Metodij also Kliment Ohridski where teachers on Bulgarian language but they are born in Macedonia and thats why we selebrate their names as Macedonians !
@PatorceMF не са родени в македония а във византия обацхе майка им и баща им са се преселили там от България заради непрекъснатите войни и това е пълсна глупост че е от 13 век доста преди това е доста е за писане не ми се занимава да ти обяснявам ама на кратко не е имало македонци във региона македония когато българите са пресекли дунава а там е населено със славяни и куберови българи от Кубер един от братята на Аспрарух по късно те се обединяват със българия
@1914levski1914 Многу е едноставно друже, ако сме биле Бугари и денес ке сме Бугари ! Нема сила која може да избрише една нација и да ја натера да стане друга! Турците 5 века не успеале и сега ти ми кажуваш дека комунистите успеале во тоа за неколку години! Дај те молам размисли логички! Отсекогаш имало разлика помегу Бугарите и Македонските Бугари! Бугарското влијание во Македонија било големо и сеуште е големо но лугето што живеат овде не се чуствуваат бугари туку едноставно Македонци и тоа е!
@PatorceMF Види сега пријателе,ти си во право дека денес луѓето во Македонија не се чувствуваат како бугари.Тоа е точно,ама пред 100 и повеќе години тие сами си кажувале дека биле бугари.Треба само малце да се чита што напишале тие.Едноставно немало апсолутно никаква разлика помеѓу Бугари и Македонски Бугари!И едните и другите се чувствувале и самоопределувале како Бугари!Оставете ги тие да си бидат тоа што сакале,а бидете си вие Македонци.Тоа е тоа...
Е слава, че накрая ме призна като македонец, въпреки че не са Съгласен напълно с твоя пост обаче имаме някакъв компромис! Не съм аз от вчера и добре знам за разликите между България и Македония българи, впрочем и сами не викате Македонски българи, защото винаги е имало разлика! И днес да е Македония обединена в рамките на България, хората, които живеят тук, няма да се чувстват българи прост пример ти се Каталунците в Испания цяла история е заедно с испанците но они се Каталонци!
@PatorceMF Maкедония никога няма да се върне в рамките на България,нито пък и някой го иска това.Аз подчертавам важността на самоопределението!Както вие днес се самоопределяте като македонци,така преди 1913 г. славянското,християнско население на региона Македония се е самоопределяло като българи.Гоце,Даме,Тодор,Ванчо-все ярки примери на самоопределили се българи от Македония,или македонски българи,както искаш.
@PatorceMF Като стана въпрос за българи и македонски българи се сетих за много добър пример:Според теб каква е разликата между сърби,косовски сърби и босненски сърби?Дали мислиш,че тия са различни или не?
@PatorceMF няма значение наричай си се македонец но не казвай че Самуил е бил македонец или че Гоце делчев е македонец или Кирил и Методи защото те са били българи и има доказателства за това
Λεβέντες μου..το πράγμα είναι πολύ απλό. Μας μένουν ακόμα μερικές χιλιάδες εκτάσεις για να ολοκληρώσουμε το έργο του ΕΠΑΝΑΠΑΤΡΙΣΜΟΥ ΤΩΝ ΧΑΜΕΝΩΝ ΜΑΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΩΝ ΕΔΑΦΩΝ! ....απλά τα πράγματα...
THE PEOPLE ARE MACEDONIANS A& IN PIRIN YOU HAVE MACEDONIANS THAT ARE TELLIONG YOU
F U. C K OFF WE ARE MACEDONIANS NOR TATARS !!
IT IS YOUR GOVRNEMT THAT IS SCARED THAT THEY WILL LOSE ( PIRIN ) IN 2013 AS THIS IS A PROVINCE OF BULGARIA AND ALSO OF GREECE
( PROVINCE ) = BORROWED LAND __ THE BUCHAREST TREATY ENDS IN 2013 IN WICH THE LAND GOES BACK TO THE OWNERS OF THE ORIGINAL MACEDONIAN LAND BEFORE WWII !! VARDAR IS 3 ALL READY
Браво за видеото ! Откъде си ги намерил тези карти? Всички много добре знаем че Коминтерна създаде македонската нация !
Ванчо Михайлов не напразно е казвал че загубата през 1944 година е много по-голяма от тази през 1913 и 1918, защото след преврата на власт идват комунисти които са анти-български. От този момент нататък, българските власти не ще бранят българското, а ще асимилират българите от пиринския край за следването на великите им ''народни'' идеи.
Македонците се засебна нација , не се како вас Бугарите црни по ликот, како цигани сте. Ние Македонците сме бела нација и се разликуваме од вас Бугарите во се. Вие Бугарите сте татари. Вие сте измислена нација, а македонците се циста нација.
@ThePetardaProduction you're poor stupid! In 1913 on 17 june Russia reparted Macedonia betwen Serbia and Greece, and gove to Bulgaria just Pirin... The serbian and the greeks killed much people in Macedonia, because this people call them BULGARIANS. One week later of this date Bulgaria declared war to Serbia and Greece to free the bulgarian nation in Egean and Vardarska! WE FOUGHT FOR THE FREEDOM OF MACEDONIA, BECAUSE WE ARE BROTHERS, THE SAME BLOD! BULGARIANS!
@ivankoinarski HAHAHA ! It's ok , you dont need to lie . The bulgarians started the second balkan war because they wanted to take bigger part of Macedonia. The freedom of Macedonians ,hhahahah
@ThePetardaProduction :) Hei, idiot, the macedonians are bulgarians. so which fuckin part of Macedonia we want? hei, idiot Petarda-Idiot, we want ALL VARDARSKA AND EGEJSKA MAKEDONIJA!
LONG LIVE UNITED BULGARIA! MOESIA, THRACE AND MACEDONIA!
@ivankoinarski aaaaa uoi motherfucking liar Balcan war 1913 Serbia vs Bulgaria Serbia win , and Macedonia is SERBIA we free MAcedonia of turks, battle for KUMANOVO and BITOLJ!!!!!you are not Slavic you are gipsy in world war 2 you are been on side Germans against Russia , Serbia and all Slavic except Croats!!!you are sevrant and pussys you dont have honor,balls and history!!!!
@MimiSrbin91 - vi ste bili TURSKI vazali , sluge , SERVUSI , !!! nikog niste vi "oslobodili" budalo jedna , vi i Bugari i Grci ste OKUPIRALI i aneksirali Makedoniju ! pod Turcima je bar bila JEDNA , nepodeljena ! al Bog sve vidi , pa vam sad vraca sa kamatom ! Traktorijade , ode Kosovo , e tako , da sad i vi vidite kako je kad ti neko uzima i okupira !
@MimiSrbin91 - budalo jedna neobrazovana , Albanac nisam ( pa shta i kad bi bio ) , musliman nisam , ( pa shta i da jesam ) , MAKEDONAC , pleme Mijaci , pravoslavni hrishchanin ! ja nisam Srbenda da ti psujem majku , to ostavljam vama na chast i obraz , koji ste odavno izgubili jadnici jedni !
@ThePetardaProduction idiot this is a ethnographic map not a political map, do u know what that means ?? on the map u can see all existing nations at that time, not all countries, macedonian retard
@ThePetardaProduction hahah i am stupid ? u dont even know what ethnographic means u retard :D:D that goes for all of u macedonians, u are our retarded west brothers, i never met stupider people than the macedonian people :D please explain why am i stupid ? because as far as i see the only stupid guy is you not making a difference between political and ethnographic map :D what the serbs didnt tell u what that is when they brainwashed u ?
@Sid1979Vicious Who ever talked about this map !? From the first comment i posted on this vid , i was talking about Macedonia on the Balkans , not this ethnographic map ! jesus christ ... so im not the stupid one who doesn't know what is ethnographic map , i was talking about MACEDONIA ! Not Fyrom , MACEDONIA !
@ThePetardaProduction hey retard, look to which comment i responded stupid shit. u said how can ur country be on the map when it was occupied, and i am telling u that this is not a political map so it doesnt matter if it was occupied it matters if there is such nation there moron. why do u speak fake bulgarian if u come from alexander's macedonia ? you must speak own language not a slavic one, why since alexander till 1944 there is no document showing nationality or country called macedonia ??!?
@ThePetardaProduction actually no need to talk in english ur language is a bulgarian dialect, we can understand each other perfectly since we both speak bulgarian, педераст македонски с промит мозък
@Sid1979Vicious Тогаш сигурно ќе ме разбереш : ОДИ ЕБИ СЕ КУРВО БУГАРСКА ! ТАТАР ЕДЕН , ОД АЗИЈА ПОТЕКНУВАТЕ А НА НАС СТЕ НАШЛЕ ДА НИ ЗБОРУВАТЕ ! МРШ НАЗАД ВО МОНГОЛИЈА ПИЗДА ВИ МАТЕР !
@ThePetardaProduction ей шиптар смешен, отговори ми защо ми говориш на български със сръбски латински ченгелчета бе ? :D вие в македония вече сте 40 процента "македонци" тоест българи 10 сърби и 50 албанци :D дръж си я великата страна като ви наебат албанците ще ни лижете гъзовете ама ще ви напомниме че ние сме "татари" нищо тия "татари" са владяли целите балкани и повече през по-голямата част от средновековието, ако предпочитата да наричате националноста си татарска, няма проблем ваша воля :)
@Sid1979Vicious Бугарите се племе од Монголија и Азербејџан ! Вие зборувате Македонски јазик ! ТАТАР ! ТИ СИ ТАТАР ! Зошто вие Бугарите не се гордеете со своето потекло ? Вие сте измешана сперма од Словените,Татарите,Монголите,Азербејџаните и Турците ! Епа вака , имате поздрав од Скопје,Македонија : Ние сме Македонци и на всичко Вулгари да ви го ебеме мајката ! :D хахаха !
@BERZITI я се виж в огледалото, после отиди да видиш братята си българи, и ми кажи какво виждаш, та като не ни е един езика защо се разбираме бе брате? :Д начи ако ние говоримте турски татарски и т.н вие говорите съшия език :Д
@Sid1979Vicious - kakov brat bre govedo edno , Makedonec i Bugar se kako ogan i voda , nikogash ne sme bile i nikogash nema ni da bideme "bratja" so vas pleme pogano !
@BERZITI защо го говорите като не го знаете бе циганин прост :Д албанците много ли ви чукат че сте затъпели толкова много :Д кажи бе защо го говорите като не го знаете :Д или ти си знаеш да си повтаряш сръбската пропаганда без да мислиш кво ти се казва :Д
@ThePetardaProduction ne serinjaj ...niko tebi nista oduzima nije ,jer nisi ni postoja tada,a sto se tice tvoje vardarske banovine tito je napravio ovu vasu danasnju drzavu posle 2 svetskog rata....
mene bi bilo sramota kad bi' prica' i izmislja price ka' vi sto radite... sjeti se rijeci ex presjednika gligorova,i sve ce ti bit' jasno ...laznjaku
@DelijaCG - ti mozesh Titu kurac da popushish a Boga mi i nama ! danashnju drzavu MAKEDONIJU smo sami izborili krvlju 26 000 poginulih Makedonskih partizana u Drugom svetskom ratu chetnichino jedna vashljiva !
@BERZITI istina boli ,pec pec ....vi ste bugari ,po prezimenima vam se poznaje ...mada i po jeziku !
mada i vas bivsi predsjednik 90-tih je izjavio da nemate nikakve veze sa nekadasnjim makedoncima,i njihovom teritorijom,a i profesor sa istoriskog fax-a izjavio isto....tako bugarcicu cigancicu sisaj mi kurac !
@BERZITI bugarcicu ....ustvari,sad ste sipari ...ima vas tamo vise siptara nego vas vardara/bugara...kako god oces da se zoves....60% siptara??? ej.....u vladu imate siptare,kroz skoplje na siptarski nazivi sve ....sramota...vi da se nazivate narodom? pa vi ne znate sto ste uopste....nemate drzavu,albanci je imaju
@DelijaCG - mi nismo zlotvori ko vi , kod nas je svaki CHOVEK -- CHOVEK , ima prava koja mu sleduju po Evropskim Konvencijama , vi ste hteli da drzite Albance ko ovce u toru , pa vam ode Kosovo , bolje i niste zasluzili ! a zashto ne bi bili u Vladi ??? pa i oni zive kod nas , i oni su Makedonski drzavljani , i oni placaju poreze toj drzavi ! i za tvoju informaciju , njih je 22 % u MK ! ne beri ti tudju brigu , gledaj ti tvoju Srbadiju !
kao prvo,mislim da mi jasno na nicku pise " CG" tako da neobrazovani covjece,da ti pojasnim ja sam iz crne gore,i crnogorsko kosovo nikad nije bilo ...tako ,onda
zar rad' 22 % Treba sve po skoplju da pise na albanski? ne mozes ti mene da pricas o tome ,kad znam ja par ljudi koji su odatle i tvrde mi da ih ima vise od 40-50%!
ima ih po crnoj gori 15 % pa nikome nista....niko im nista ne brani niti ih zlo'ostavlja ...to sto ti pricas je prica za malu djecu
@DelijaCG - pa ako si Crnogorac shto izigravash srpskog advokata !!!??? Kosovo mozda nije bilo crnogorsko , al delovi Metohije jesu ! po MK Ustavu , u svim sredinama gde je neka manjina najmanje 20 % zastupljena , i jezik te manjine je u oficijalnoj upotrebi m i ima dvojachne table , imena ulica i.t.d. ! a to je sluchaj u Skopju,Tetovu, i Gostivaru ! shta ima losheg u tome ! meni ne smeta ! i oni su ljudi , svako ima pravo na zivot dostojan choveka ! tu spada i obrazovanje,mediji i .t. d
@BERZITI ja ne izigravam nikakvog srpskog advokata,nego samo pisem kako jeste i kako je bilo
sto se tice kosova ,nije nikad ,ne mozda nego nikad nije bilo crnogorsko ...jes' metohija ,i to malo nesto...
ma ti si debil neki,svi mi se zale na njih tamo ,kako ne mogu da zive od njih i kako ce vam drzavu uzet',a ti si sad kao pametan i ne smeta ti i podrzavas to ...ja 3 co'eka u skoplje nisam sreo,a da to nije bio albanac....sve sami albanezi tamo
@DelijaCG - ja debil ? ako sam ja debil , onda si ti DEBILCHINA ! nisam ja reko da su oni cvecke , stalno se neshto bune , al to je druga prica ! ja sam samo rekao da svako mora da ima svoja prava koja mu pripadaju po svim Konvencijama ! kakvi su , takvi , tu su , pa shta treba po tebi , da ih sve pobijemo ? a ne smeta mi jer znam kako je mojim Makedoncima u Bugarskoj i Grchkoj gde nemaju ljudska prava , ni shkole , ni priznat status , NISHTA ! SHTO NE ZELIS SEBI , NE POZELI DRUGOM !
kako neko mze da ima veca prava od starosjedioca ( npr grka ili bugara??? ) oni rodjeni tamo,i sad neki jucerasnji sljam treba da ima ista prava ka' i oni?
zivio sam ja sa takozvanim makednocima u grcku,pa znam kakva su to olos i govna ! samo gledaju kako ce da te zajebu i da je njima bolje,ne mozes ti da mi pricas o necijim pravima ! eto ja sam ima' ista prava ka' i grci,niko me nije maltretira niti ponizavao,a to sto su tvoji zemljaci govna ,tako i zive
koji starosjedeoci bre kretenu jedan ? pa znash li ti da je do Balkanskih ratova Egejski i Pirinski deodeo Makedonije bio preko 70 % naseljen Makedoncima ?nikad do Balkanskih ratova te zemlje nisu bili deo GR ili BG drzave ! i danas ih ima oko 300 000 , a Grci su doneli oko milion doseljenika iz Turske da bi razbili kompaktnu slovensku Makedonsku zemlju ? oni zive tamo 15 vekova DEBILCHINO , nisu doshli juche !
@DelijaCG - "SLUSHAJ MU PRICE " !!!??? pa konju jedan , koje price bre ??? to su za tebe price ? aneksija od strane Grka , proterivanje oko 400 000 Makedonaca 1923 posle Lozanskog dogovora, doseljavanje oko milion kolonista iz Turske , i opet proterivanje Makedonaca posle gradjanskog rata 1949 ! i to su za tebe price ? gnjido jedna , idi beri pomorandje u Grchkoj i sisaj im ga !
@ThePetardaProduction Well this was not Macedonia.These were bulgarians who wanted to take macedonia away from greece.So Turks and Greeks had an alliance against bulgarians in order to take it back.Paeonia (The real name of your country) created in 1991. All of your heroes are bulgarians . Your lanquage is 80 % Bulgarian...So Makedonija e Grcija ''Paeonia'' e Bulgarska.
I understand very well that you are Slavs who speak Bulgarian and you have nothing to do with Macedonia as Macedonia is one undivided with only Greek history.
What is that you don't understand ? You show fictional maps of 19th century. So ?
You are a fraud and sooner or later your lie will collapse.
@Georgios763 I just want to show, that in ancient Makedonia lives bulgarians. Nothig more. The ancient macedonians like Alexander and Filip was greek kings, not bulgarians, but the land of their ancient kingdom later entred in the bulgarian state and there are living bulgarians now.
Bilo to nekogas koga Makedonija ,,bila,,na nekogo pa se videlo deka nikoj ne moze da ja zacuva.Zato sega ke ni dozvolite sami da si ja vodime drzavata,i ke ve molime ne ni trebaat sovetnici od nastrana,gi imame mnogu ako sakate ke vi gi dademe i mozete da si gi zadrzete.
@nickmakedon коя дръжава? Коя Македония? Вардарска, Егейска или Пиринска? Защо людете впо Вардарска Македония си мислят, че само те там са си македонци и там е само Македония, а Егейско и Пиринско са само "окупирани от бугари и грци македонски земи"... Бе в тия окупирани земи живеят 4 пъти повече люде от колкото в днешна Р. Македония. Они не сакат да имат нещо общо с таа независима Македония, дека я направиха сръбските комунисти.
The ancient Macedonia my friend is exactly the same as today. A Greek territory.
Although, your map shows other things. And Bulgarians showed up in the area in mediaeval ages. There never was ancient Bulgarians in the territory. According to historians, your ancestors were the Scythians.
I 'm glad that you finally understood that. The most ancient human found in Petralona of Chalkidiki and the most ancient epigraph at Dispilio. Get it over.
@Georgios763 You're right. The ancien Macedonia never was our And Medieval Macedonia too. Medieval Macedonia of Basilios Makedonis Bulgaroktonis is near of Adrianople and Constantinople between V and XVII c. Between those centhuries today's macedonian lands were named south part "Epirus and Thesalia" and northern part just Bulgaria.
You are confused again. You are Bulgarians, people of Scythian ancestry. You have nothing to do with Macedonia and the Byzantine empire just because you are posteriors. The ancient Macedonia lies in it's natural environment in Greece.
@Georgios763 The confused are you, my friend. I sed, that the ancient Macedonians are greek people, but later they were changed their lands, becaus of the barbarians - slavs and bulgars. We are not scythians, just you call us scythians. we are bulgarians slavs. Our language is slavic language. We come in the Balkans in 5 cent and conquired all byzantians lands here untill Thesalonika.
@Georgios763 The problem is only in FYROM, my friend, we, bulgarians and greeks don't have problems betwen us. We had ... but very time past. Now we have the same ennemy - the yugoslavian communist rest the "macedonian nation" .
@Georgios763 You're wellcome, but I am sorry about the map, that map was created in 1853, by the europeans and turkish demografs. That map present the Bulgarian Exarchat with the bulgarians lands, where living more than 50% of bulgarians.
@Georgios763 Greek lands? :D Daaaaaaaamn ..... are u sure ur Greek or u are Macedonian ... coz they are thinkin just like .... "Woaaaaah the whole fuckin world is ours" Cmon u gotta be fuckin wit me ...
Oh,yea,it seems that we a\the Macedonians are not Macedonians.
How do you explain the Macedon Empire.Filip II was Macedonian,not Greek,or Illyrian.M-A-C-E-D-O-N-I-A-N ! So Alexander the Great was also a M-A-C-E-D-O-N-I-A-N ! So how can you say that the Macedonians were made by Tito when we lived here 1000 years BC ?
How do you explain this : Why was Goce Delcev fighting for the Macedonains if he was Bulgarian ? You really need to go to history class.
@ThePetardaProduction the antic macedonias were greek peoples, like epirians,m athenians and spartans, you know. The Alexander's macedonians were speaking and writing in greek language. Antic greek Macedonia was to north untill today's Bitola. Skopije never was in macedonians lands of Alexander the Great. In 7 century the bulgarians of Kuber conquired today's Macedonia and that land has changed the name to Keramia until 17 century. Today'e people of Macedonia speak bulgarian. Yo need more clases
@ThePetardaProduction Explain me, why all papers of VMORO-BMORK, VMRO were writed in pure bulgarian language? Explain me, why Goce Delchev was learbning in the officers's academy in Sofia? Explain me, why all flags of Ilinden-Preobrazhenskoto vostanie 1903 are writed in bulgarian language СВОБОДА ИЛИ СМЪРТ and not en serbian "слобода или смрт"? Explain me, why in the flag of the revolutioners of Ohrid is the bulgarian flad white, green and red??? explain me!!!!!! fuck you communist!
@ThePetardaProduction The macedonians of today have absolitely nothing in common with the ancient Macedonians. The Macedonians of today are Slavs and speak and write in Bulgarian. The ancient Macedonians spokeand wrote in Greek. Accept it dude, you are Bulgarian under another name.
Its called selective editing ashole. Denying the existence of an ancient macedonian ethnic group or nation makes you the arrogant MORON only to be surpased by your delusions.
ahhaha You forgot to show us the ethnographic maps of the balkans since ancient times....but if you show us those ancient maps we can not see any of those NEW 19th century CREATED NATIONS as serbs,bulgars and greeks...there will be only ANCIENT MACEDONIA and the MACEDONIANS! ahhahah
CAKIMacedonian 2 days ago
@CAKIMacedonian ancient Macedonia? And You? When? 1992?
ivankoinarski 1 day ago
hahahahahaahah We are the MAcedonin's we Exit's from many year's you don't now anything abour macedonin's and FYCK YOU SERBIAn's AND BULGARIAN"S
MrKristijan97 1 month ago
It is a totally fake map... I mean it presents have of Greece as Albanians. My village is next to Albanian, in the region of Epirus, but they used to spoke Greek, and they did fights against Albanians in order Epirus to be free...
dimitris804 3 months ago
@dimitris804 you still have aspirations for Northern Epirus I see
myowngenesis 2 months ago
južni Sloveni su bili authtoni narod koji je živeo u planinama balkana ili u ropstvu. Nakon 6 veka oni ojačavaju kao narod i naseljuju ravnice. Deo južnih slavena naseljava i asimilira makedonce i pajonce. Bugari nastaju kasnije, kao mešavina slavena i tatara.Nisu današnji slavenski makedonci bugari već obratno. Grčka ne priznaje slavenske makedonce (do 1986 nisu priznavali ni antičke) zbog genocida 1913-48, a Bugarska ne priznaje jer sama ima krizu identiteta.
dimges 5 months ago 2
Браво! Шапка ти свалям за клипа!
Може ли да споделиш музиката, която си използвал. Съдра ми сърцето!
sllaveq 5 months ago
MAKEDON = ancient Greek word ("tall man")
MACEDONIANS = ancient Greek tribe
MACEDONIA = land of Macedonians in ancient Greece,
Part of former Roman, Byzantine, Ottoman, Bulgarian empires
Today, region of northern Greece
athanatiEllada 6 months ago
Macedonia is greece, and FYROM is 1/3 albania and 2/3 bulgaria. It's that simple.
ichalkias13 7 months ago 12
@ichalkias13 No shit?! What about Serbian part?! Macedonia has been divided by Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia after the Balkan Wars 1912-1913. Ethnically and historically Serbia has a right on a piece of Macedonia. So called Macedonians are not just Bulgarians and Greeks, large part of them are actually Serbs. I agree there's no such thing as "Macedonian" ethnicity, but they are NOT Bulgarians
Vitloable 6 months ago
@Vitloable No you divided it with Greeks behind our back while you were fighting the Turks. And you did genocides in macedonia in 1945 - more then 23 000 people. Why would you kill your own nation ? Fyromans are Bulgarians !!
danielBG1000 6 months ago
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d0n0tdistrub 2 months ago
MACEDONIA IS SERBIAN AND BULGARIAN LAND
lnedeljkovic 7 months ago
@lnedeljkovic
Macedonia is in Greece.
FYROM are your traitors.
shockolanu 7 months ago
@shockolanu You're right
lnedeljkovic 7 months ago
@lnedeljkovic
I know.
I'm also right when I say that all the Balkans were united before the Ottoman occupation. Now that the Turks are gone, we should look to rebuild what they tried to destroy.
Of course, there are great powers that don't want this to happen.
I wonder if they don't want that to happen for our good or for their good...
shockolanu 7 months ago
@lnedeljkovic The only serbian about Macedonia is all the brainwashing that your Tito did during former Yugoslavia and nothing else In fact all of east Serbia is Bulgaria but you guys are just squashing our rights all the Time Guess what - No More
Don't get me wrong Nothing agains you personally but just go read some West Eropean History about the Balcans!
BulgaroM 7 months ago
@lnedeljkovic hahahhaa!
ivankoinarski 6 months ago
@ivankoinarski
lnedeljkovic 4 months ago
Respond to this video...FYROM
lnedeljkovic 4 months ago
@lnedeljkovic No my friend ;) Macedonia is only Bulgarian ;)))
danielBG1000 6 months ago
@lnedeljkovic Lol Exactly Serbia is Bulgarian land!
MrNacko28 2 months ago
@lnedeljkovic ONLY BULGARIAN!!!!
emilpenkov969 2 months ago
@lnedeljkovic more bulgarian :)
d0n0tdistrub 2 months ago
@lnedeljkovic Macedonia is serbian land as much as kosovo it is!
CAKIMacedonian 2 days ago
Macedonia is Half Albanian and Half Bulgarian Land !!!
IllyriPower 8 months ago 5
@IllyriPower Actually just 1/3 albanian and 2/3 Bulgarian and you know as well as I do that this happened recently as result of stupid postserbian-macedonian politic of the contry because they were not albanian att all before that Anyways I just hope that in near future the opposite dosen't happen and you guys get 2/3 of it
Peace !!!
BulgaroM 7 months ago
хехехе па немам бугарска подршка на компјутерот па ми фалат букви од оригиналната кирилица која ја користите вие, иначе браво перфектно напиша на македонски јас не би можел така добро на бугарски а кога сме кај јазикот комунистите ја сменија нашата азбука и не сум горд на тоа лично би сакал да ја користиме оригиналната кирилица бидејки таа е азбуката на која пишувале моите дедовци!
PatorceMF 8 months ago
so what there are also international maps created in the early 1900 that shows Macedonians like nation! Today Macedonia exist because Tito finaly give us the justice! This part (VARDAR) were we live now was under Serbia and we all know for the PIRIN part and the Eagean part! If Tito is our creator why people in PIRIN and Eagean are fighting for justice to be recognited like Macedonians? Why they are not claiming to be Bulgarians or Greeks ? my answer is because they are MACEDONIANS !!!
PatorceMF 8 months ago
THET IS BILGARIAN (MONGOL-TATAR ) OCUPATION, YOU MUST MORE TO LEARN MY FRIEND
MrMAKEDONEC80 8 months ago
@MrMAKEDONEC80 learn from where? From the Titostan's communist sci-fiction books? hahaha! Look the maps carefully my friend. No macedonian in Macedonoa, just BULGARIAN. Macedonian in Macedonia like nation before 1944 with thanks by Tito - the father, the creator, the god of "macedonian nation".
ivankoinarski 8 months ago 8
@ivankoinarski Hahahha u are stupid TATAR ! This maps are created by a TATAR and its normal MACEDONIA not to be in it ! Write:
Macedonians on The Old Maps (Original Documents)
and u will find international maps of the Balkan in which the Macedonians are showed like a different nation,Tito was child when this maps ware created.
PatorceMF 8 months ago
@PatorceMF < The maps actually are; French, Austrian, German, Russian and Turkish. They state where the Bulgarian population is.
IArYAI 8 months ago
@IArYAI so what there are also international maps created in the early 1900 that shows Macedonians like nation! Today Macedonia exist because Tito finaly give us the justice! This part (VARDAR) were we live now was under Serbia and we all know for the PIRIN part and the Eagean part! If Tito is our creator why people in PIRIN and Eagean are fighting for justice to be recognited like Macedonians? Why they are not claiming to be Bulgarians or Greeks ? my answer is because they are MACEDONIANS !!!
PatorceMF 8 months ago
@PatorceMF < well, these ARE international maps. also, if you feel that Tito is your man that's fine with me. and .. i'm one of those Pirin people you are talking about and i don't feel "Macedonian" the way you mean it, and i don't know any one else there who feels that way. You are implying something like ethnic Macedonians who would be Greeks but i'm not.
IArYAI 8 months ago
@PatorceMF аз съм от пирин и няма такива които да не се чувстват българи и да са горди че са българи освен чужденците де
1914levski1914 8 months ago
@PatorceMF всички карти са от други държави нито една българска а твоите (4) всички са когато македония е част от сърбия която създава македонската нация
1914levski1914 8 months ago
@ivankoinarski Learn from ur stupid history that u only ocupied Macedonia and u forced Macedonians to learn bulgarian language and to sign that they are Bulgarians! That is Terror but not biger from the Greek terror when they made a genocide on Macedonian people in Eagean part of macedonia killing more then 100 000 people and forcing 500 000 people to leave their property ! No mather what u do we are still here fighting for our rights !!! ONE LIVE ONE LOVE MACEDONIA 4EVER !!
PatorceMF 8 months ago
@PatorceMF < So ones inslaved by Serbia in 1913 Macedonians were forced and terrorized to learn Serbian language and to declare that they are not Bulgarians.
IArYAI 8 months ago
@PatorceMF < It seams you are totally confused about "your Macedonian" history. First of all two of the leaders of BMOPO (IMRO) , Gotse Delchev and Dame Gruev were teachers of Bulgarian language in Štip (macedonia) , also all flags of the BMOPO (IMRO) are written in Bulgarian where it clearly says - "МАКЕДОНИЯ" and not the Serbian spelling "МАКЕДОНIJA" you use now, as well as "СВОБОДА ИЛИ СМЪРТЪ" and NOT the Serbian "СЛОБОДА ИЛИ СМРТ"
IArYAI 8 months ago
@PatorceMF когато България е под турско робство македония е под българско така ли смешно е подледни картите има преди 1878 когато България е под турско робство и нямам как да стане това което ти се опитваш да пробуташ като идея а и аз съм от пиринско и дядо ми е разказвал истории за начина по които се е направила македонската нация
1914levski1914 8 months ago
@1914levski1914 Dude i am not one way noob ! Macedonia is Bulgarian teritory way before the Turks come on Balkan! Bulgarian king Konstantin V took over Macedonia in VIII century and since that time Macedonia is Bulgarian teritory and since then Bulgarians make presure on Macedonians to become Bulgars and today is the same propaganda! Kiril and Metodij also Kliment Ohridski where teachers on Bulgarian language but they are born in Macedonia and thats why we selebrate their names as Macedonians !
PatorceMF 8 months ago
@PatorceMF не са родени в македония а във византия обацхе майка им и баща им са се преселили там от България заради непрекъснатите войни и това е пълсна глупост че е от 13 век доста преди това е доста е за писане не ми се занимава да ти обяснявам ама на кратко не е имало македонци във региона македония когато българите са пресекли дунава а там е населено със славяни и куберови българи от Кубер един от братята на Аспрарух по късно те се обединяват със българия
1914levski1914 8 months ago
@1914levski1914 България'
1914levski1914 8 months ago
@1914levski1914 Многу е едноставно друже, ако сме биле Бугари и денес ке сме Бугари ! Нема сила која може да избрише една нација и да ја натера да стане друга! Турците 5 века не успеале и сега ти ми кажуваш дека комунистите успеале во тоа за неколку години! Дај те молам размисли логички! Отсекогаш имало разлика помегу Бугарите и Македонските Бугари! Бугарското влијание во Македонија било големо и сеуште е големо но лугето што живеат овде не се чуствуваат бугари туку едноставно Македонци и тоа е!
PatorceMF 8 months ago
@PatorceMF Види сега пријателе,ти си во право дека денес луѓето во Македонија не се чувствуваат како бугари.Тоа е точно,ама пред 100 и повеќе години тие сами си кажувале дека биле бугари.Треба само малце да се чита што напишале тие.Едноставно немало апсолутно никаква разлика помеѓу Бугари и Македонски Бугари!И едните и другите се чувствувале и самоопределувале како Бугари!Оставете ги тие да си бидат тоа што сакале,а бидете си вие Македонци.Тоа е тоа...
AlexOdesos 8 months ago
Е слава, че накрая ме призна като македонец, въпреки че не са Съгласен напълно с твоя пост обаче имаме някакъв компромис! Не съм аз от вчера и добре знам за разликите между България и Македония българи, впрочем и сами не викате Македонски българи, защото винаги е имало разлика! И днес да е Македония обединена в рамките на България, хората, които живеят тук, няма да се чувстват българи прост пример ти се Каталунците в Испания цяла история е заедно с испанците но они се Каталонци!
PatorceMF 8 months ago
@PatorceMF Maкедония никога няма да се върне в рамките на България,нито пък и някой го иска това.Аз подчертавам важността на самоопределението!Както вие днес се самоопределяте като македонци,така преди 1913 г. славянското,християнско население на региона Македония се е самоопределяло като българи.Гоце,Даме,Тодор,Ванчо-все ярки примери на самоопределили се българи от Македония,или македонски българи,както искаш.
AlexOdesos 8 months ago
@PatorceMF You had to use google translate to write in bulgarian?I didn't need it to write in macedonian!Interesting,huhhh?
AlexOdesos 8 months ago 4
@PatorceMF Като стана въпрос за българи и македонски българи се сетих за много добър пример:Според теб каква е разликата между сърби,косовски сърби и босненски сърби?Дали мислиш,че тия са различни или не?
AlexOdesos 8 months ago
@PatorceMF няма значение наричай си се македонец но не казвай че Самуил е бил македонец или че Гоце делчев е македонец или Кирил и Методи защото те са били българи и има доказателства за това
1914levski1914 8 months ago
@ivankoinarski Ebi se be Tatar.Pleme vase tatarsko da ebaaaaam.hahahahahaha.Mongoloidi.
grozdanovigor 7 months ago
@MrMAKEDONEC80
STALIN CREATED THE MOST FAKE NATION AND STATE IN THE WORLD - "MACEDONIANS" AND "MACEDONIA"!!! ;)
ANTIMASON100 6 months ago
This is bullshit ...
iPhavarija 9 months ago
от делтата на дунав до брега на охрид една земя БЪЛГАРИЯ
martinlisitsata 9 months ago
Macedonia is SERBIA ! ! !
MimiSrbin91 9 months ago
@MimiSrbin91 hahaha sumadiec!
ivankoinarski 9 months ago
@MimiSrbin91 KOSOVO je ALBANIJA !
VOJVODINA je MADJARSKA ! SANDJAK je BOSANSKI ! SRBIJA je HRVATSKA !
MAKEDONIJA je chista MAKEDONSKA !
BERZITI 9 months ago
macedonia is 50albanian 50 bulgarian kosovo is albania and cameria is albania fuck greek fuck serbs suck turkey
fuckgreecc 10 months ago
bulgarians and the macedons are brothers and should stop talking shit for each other
xxxJDDxxx 10 months ago
Λεβέντες μου..το πράγμα είναι πολύ απλό. Μας μένουν ακόμα μερικές χιλιάδες εκτάσεις για να ολοκληρώσουμε το έργο του ΕΠΑΝΑΠΑΤΡΙΣΜΟΥ ΤΩΝ ΧΑΜΕΝΩΝ ΜΑΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΩΝ ΕΔΑΦΩΝ! ....απλά τα πράγματα...
ODYSSEYsPOLYMHXANOS 11 months ago
the greeaks coming from turkia ,the greek land is in turkia this day
AlidemsGanidoms 1 year ago
Еи циганин ако ни нямаше нас ваща умряла държава нямаше да я има. И не ме наричай татар защото ако аз съм татар значи ти също.
XxXplamenXxX 1 year ago
bulgarians of the skopian type are still having this identity crisis poor titozombies.
neo19158 1 year ago
МАКЕДОНЦИТЕ СЕ ДРЕВНА НАЦИЈА, ВИЕ БУГАРИТЕ СТЕ ТАТАРИ, ЦРНИ КАКО ЦИГАНИ СТЕ. НИЕ СМЕ БЕЛИ ВО ЛИКОТ.
MrZarko007 1 year ago
HEY STUPID BULGAR !
LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE NOT YOU GOVERNMENT
THE PEOPLE ARE MACEDONIANS A& IN PIRIN YOU HAVE MACEDONIANS THAT ARE TELLIONG YOU
F U. C K OFF WE ARE MACEDONIANS NOR TATARS !!
IT IS YOUR GOVRNEMT THAT IS SCARED THAT THEY WILL LOSE ( PIRIN ) IN 2013 AS THIS IS A PROVINCE OF BULGARIA AND ALSO OF GREECE
( PROVINCE ) = BORROWED LAND __ THE BUCHAREST TREATY ENDS IN 2013 IN WICH THE LAND GOES BACK TO THE OWNERS OF THE ORIGINAL MACEDONIAN LAND BEFORE WWII !! VARDAR IS 3 ALL READY
JANDAR69 1 year ago
Браво за видеото ! Откъде си ги намерил тези карти? Всички много добре знаем че Коминтерна създаде македонската нация !
Ванчо Михайлов не напразно е казвал че загубата през 1944 година е много по-голяма от тази през 1913 и 1918, защото след преврата на власт идват комунисти които са анти-български. От този момент нататък, българските власти не ще бранят българското, а ще асимилират българите от пиринския край за следването на великите им ''народни'' идеи.
xxpoonednoobxx 1 year ago
@xxpoonednoobxx *ненапразно
xxpoonednoobxx 1 year ago
@xxpoonednoobxx
Македонците се засебна нација , не се како вас Бугарите црни по ликот, како цигани сте. Ние Македонците сме бела нација и се разликуваме од вас Бугарите во се. Вие Бугарите сте татари. Вие сте измислена нација, а македонците се циста нација.
MrZarko007 1 year ago
ETHNIC ALBANIA 1912 !
IllyrianDefender 1 year ago
You Bulgarians are stupid . How can Macedonia be on the map before 1944 when you ,greece and serbia took our country in 1912 ?
MAKEDONIJA !!!
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction you're poor stupid! In 1913 on 17 june Russia reparted Macedonia betwen Serbia and Greece, and gove to Bulgaria just Pirin... The serbian and the greeks killed much people in Macedonia, because this people call them BULGARIANS. One week later of this date Bulgaria declared war to Serbia and Greece to free the bulgarian nation in Egean and Vardarska! WE FOUGHT FOR THE FREEDOM OF MACEDONIA, BECAUSE WE ARE BROTHERS, THE SAME BLOD! BULGARIANS!
БОГ С НАМИ ВО ИМЕ БОЛГАРСКО!
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
@ivankoinarski HAHAHA ! It's ok , you dont need to lie . The bulgarians started the second balkan war because they wanted to take bigger part of Macedonia. The freedom of Macedonians ,hhahahah
They fought for our freedom xaxaxaxa
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction :) Hei, idiot, the macedonians are bulgarians. so which fuckin part of Macedonia we want? hei, idiot Petarda-Idiot, we want ALL VARDARSKA AND EGEJSKA MAKEDONIJA!
LONG LIVE UNITED BULGARIA! MOESIA, THRACE AND MACEDONIA!
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
@ivankoinarski LONG LIVE MACEDONIA!
imamacedonian 1 year ago
@ivankoinarski Da ucis istorija majkata da ti ja ebam
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
MACEDONIANS ARE NOT TATARI MATE > BULGARS ARE THE KHANS O.K
BULGARS CAME INTO MACEDONIA AS TO SUPPORT OUR FIGHT AGINST THE GREEKS
BUT BULGARS HAD OTHER INTERST>> THEY HELP BUT THEN THEY TOOK CONTROLL OF MACEDONIA IN THE END THEY ENDED UP WITH ONLY PIRIN MACEDONIA !!
THAT IS WHY MACEDONIANS ARE NOT BULGARS NOR YOUR N\OR BOTHERS...
BULGARS ARE MORE COMMON TO MOLDAVIANS & UKRANIENS....
HENS YOU SOUND LIKE MASO BECAUSE OF PIRIN 20% THE REST IS MORE LIKE MOLDAVIAN 25%
ROMANIAN 25%,TATAR 30%
JANDAR69 1 year ago
@ivankoinarski aaaaa uoi motherfucking liar Balcan war 1913 Serbia vs Bulgaria Serbia win , and Macedonia is SERBIA we free MAcedonia of turks, battle for KUMANOVO and BITOLJ!!!!!you are not Slavic you are gipsy in world war 2 you are been on side Germans against Russia , Serbia and all Slavic except Croats!!!you are sevrant and pussys you dont have honor,balls and history!!!!
MimiSrbin91 9 months ago
@MimiSrbin91 idiot neolivberalist ex-communist shumadian shit! In teh 2nd world war we was against the COMMIS! Heil Hitler!
ivankoinarski 9 months ago
@ivankoinarski You fucking nazis you are slaves of NATO,and of all evil
MimiSrbin91 9 months ago
@MimiSrbin91 - JEBITE SE ZAJEDNO SA TIM TATARO-BUGARINOM , OBOJICA STE ISTA GOVNA ! ALFA - BETA - GAMA = EVO MAKEDONSKI KURAC VAMA !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI Sisaj karu mamu ti jebem smrdljivu !!!!cigansku
MimiSrbin91 9 months ago
@MimiSrbin91 - SISACE MENI TVOJA SESTRA KARU , MAMU TI JEBEM SERVUSE JEDAN ! SERVUS = SLUGO TURSKA !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI Ko te je oslobodio od Turaka majmune !!!!
MimiSrbin91 9 months ago
@MimiSrbin91 - vi ste bili TURSKI vazali , sluge , SERVUSI , !!! nikog niste vi "oslobodili" budalo jedna , vi i Bugari i Grci ste OKUPIRALI i aneksirali Makedoniju ! pod Turcima je bar bila JEDNA , nepodeljena ! al Bog sve vidi , pa vam sad vraca sa kamatom ! Traktorijade , ode Kosovo , e tako , da sad i vi vidite kako je kad ti neko uzima i okupira !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI ma ti si siptar mamu ti jebem muslimansku SMRT ISLAMU !!!!jebem li ti mamu sugavu
MimiSrbin91 9 months ago
@MimiSrbin91 - budalo jedna neobrazovana , Albanac nisam ( pa shta i kad bi bio ) , musliman nisam , ( pa shta i da jesam ) , MAKEDONAC , pleme Mijaci , pravoslavni hrishchanin ! ja nisam Srbenda da ti psujem majku , to ostavljam vama na chast i obraz , koji ste odavno izgubili jadnici jedni !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@ThePetardaProduction idiot this is a ethnographic map not a political map, do u know what that means ?? on the map u can see all existing nations at that time, not all countries, macedonian retard
Sid1979Vicious 1 year ago
@Sid1979Vicious You are so stupid ...
MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE !
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction hahah i am stupid ? u dont even know what ethnographic means u retard :D:D that goes for all of u macedonians, u are our retarded west brothers, i never met stupider people than the macedonian people :D please explain why am i stupid ? because as far as i see the only stupid guy is you not making a difference between political and ethnographic map :D what the serbs didnt tell u what that is when they brainwashed u ?
Sid1979Vicious 1 year ago
@Sid1979Vicious Who ever talked about this map !? From the first comment i posted on this vid , i was talking about Macedonia on the Balkans , not this ethnographic map ! jesus christ ... so im not the stupid one who doesn't know what is ethnographic map , i was talking about MACEDONIA ! Not Fyrom , MACEDONIA !
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction hey retard, look to which comment i responded stupid shit. u said how can ur country be on the map when it was occupied, and i am telling u that this is not a political map so it doesnt matter if it was occupied it matters if there is such nation there moron. why do u speak fake bulgarian if u come from alexander's macedonia ? you must speak own language not a slavic one, why since alexander till 1944 there is no document showing nationality or country called macedonia ??!?
Sid1979Vicious 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction actually no need to talk in english ur language is a bulgarian dialect, we can understand each other perfectly since we both speak bulgarian, педераст македонски с промит мозък
Sid1979Vicious 1 year ago
@Sid1979Vicious Тогаш сигурно ќе ме разбереш : ОДИ ЕБИ СЕ КУРВО БУГАРСКА ! ТАТАР ЕДЕН , ОД АЗИЈА ПОТЕКНУВАТЕ А НА НАС СТЕ НАШЛЕ ДА НИ ЗБОРУВАТЕ ! МРШ НАЗАД ВО МОНГОЛИЈА ПИЗДА ВИ МАТЕР !
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction ей шиптар смешен, отговори ми защо ми говориш на български със сръбски латински ченгелчета бе ? :D вие в македония вече сте 40 процента "македонци" тоест българи 10 сърби и 50 албанци :D дръж си я великата страна като ви наебат албанците ще ни лижете гъзовете ама ще ви напомниме че ние сме "татари" нищо тия "татари" са владяли целите балкани и повече през по-голямата част от средновековието, ако предпочитата да наричате националноста си татарска, няма проблем ваша воля :)
Sid1979Vicious 1 year ago
@Sid1979Vicious Сите Бугари се татари од Монголија
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction да четеш ли не можеш бе :D питах те нещо шиптар глупав :D
Sid1979Vicious 1 year ago
@Sid1979Vicious Бугарите се племе од Монголија и Азербејџан ! Вие зборувате Македонски јазик ! ТАТАР ! ТИ СИ ТАТАР ! Зошто вие Бугарите не се гордеете со своето потекло ? Вие сте измешана сперма од Словените,Татарите,Монголите,Азербејџаните и Турците ! Епа вака , имате поздрав од Скопје,Македонија : Ние сме Македонци и на всичко Вулгари да ви го ебеме мајката ! :D хахаха !
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction ходи да си пасеш овцете майкати да еба шиптар мръсен
XxXplamenXxX 1 year ago
@XxXplamenXxX Шиптари на Косово , Татари во Бугарија и Азија хехе Зошто не се вратите од таму од кај што потекнувате , од Монголија ХАХАХАХА
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction моголите са в монголия българите сме в БЪЛГАРИЯ
XxXplamenXxX 1 year ago
@XxXplamenXxX еее глуп Татар , тогаш што јадете гомна за Македонците ? Ние сме си Македонци !
Монголи + Татари = Бугари хахахахах
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction монголи + татари = на майка ти клиентите :}
ta6yLMAO 11 months ago
@ThePetardaProduction
Ты говоришь ТАТАР, как будто это что-то плохое :)
Ingeneer1977 11 months ago
@Sid1979Vicious - MAKEDONECI ne znaat bulgar turkic - altaic jazik ! nie ne sme zolto pleme mongolo - tatarsko kako vas , goveda edni bugarski !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI я се виж в огледалото, после отиди да видиш братята си българи, и ми кажи какво виждаш, та като не ни е един езика защо се разбираме бе брате? :Д начи ако ние говоримте турски татарски и т.н вие говорите съшия език :Д
Sid1979Vicious 9 months ago
@Sid1979Vicious - kakov brat bre govedo edno , Makedonec i Bugar se kako ogan i voda , nikogash ne sme bile i nikogash nema ni da bideme "bratja" so vas pleme pogano !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI защо го говорите като не го знаете бе циганин прост :Д албанците много ли ви чукат че сте затъпели толкова много :Д кажи бе защо го говорите като не го знаете :Д или ти си знаеш да си повтаряш сръбската пропаганда без да мислиш кво ти се казва :Д
Sid1979Vicious 9 months ago
@ThePetardaProduction LOL your comment makes me laught. Macedonia is part from Bulgaria!
MattBG67 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction thats right youl tell them i agree how dume are these people yeah
imamacedonian 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction thats right youl tell them i agree how dame are these people yeah
imamacedonian 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction ne serinjaj ...niko tebi nista oduzima nije ,jer nisi ni postoja tada,a sto se tice tvoje vardarske banovine tito je napravio ovu vasu danasnju drzavu posle 2 svetskog rata....
mene bi bilo sramota kad bi' prica' i izmislja price ka' vi sto radite... sjeti se rijeci ex presjednika gligorova,i sve ce ti bit' jasno ...laznjaku
DelijaCG 11 months ago
@DelijaCG - ti mozesh Titu kurac da popushish a Boga mi i nama ! danashnju drzavu MAKEDONIJU smo sami izborili krvlju 26 000 poginulih Makedonskih partizana u Drugom svetskom ratu chetnichino jedna vashljiva !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI istina boli ,pec pec ....vi ste bugari ,po prezimenima vam se poznaje ...mada i po jeziku !
mada i vas bivsi predsjednik 90-tih je izjavio da nemate nikakve veze sa nekadasnjim makedoncima,i njihovom teritorijom,a i profesor sa istoriskog fax-a izjavio isto....tako bugarcicu cigancicu sisaj mi kurac !
DelijaCG 9 months ago
@DelijaCG - teraj se bre ti u bestraga ! mozete i vi i bugari samo da nam popushite kurac i nishta vishe ! Servusi , turski nakot , sluge turske !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI bugarcicu ....ustvari,sad ste sipari ...ima vas tamo vise siptara nego vas vardara/bugara...kako god oces da se zoves....60% siptara??? ej.....u vladu imate siptare,kroz skoplje na siptarski nazivi sve ....sramota...vi da se nazivate narodom? pa vi ne znate sto ste uopste....nemate drzavu,albanci je imaju
DelijaCG 9 months ago
@DelijaCG - mi nismo zlotvori ko vi , kod nas je svaki CHOVEK -- CHOVEK , ima prava koja mu sleduju po Evropskim Konvencijama , vi ste hteli da drzite Albance ko ovce u toru , pa vam ode Kosovo , bolje i niste zasluzili ! a zashto ne bi bili u Vladi ??? pa i oni zive kod nas , i oni su Makedonski drzavljani , i oni placaju poreze toj drzavi ! i za tvoju informaciju , njih je 22 % u MK ! ne beri ti tudju brigu , gledaj ti tvoju Srbadiju !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI ma neka? smijesan si opet...
kao prvo,mislim da mi jasno na nicku pise " CG" tako da neobrazovani covjece,da ti pojasnim ja sam iz crne gore,i crnogorsko kosovo nikad nije bilo ...tako ,onda
zar rad' 22 % Treba sve po skoplju da pise na albanski? ne mozes ti mene da pricas o tome ,kad znam ja par ljudi koji su odatle i tvrde mi da ih ima vise od 40-50%!
ima ih po crnoj gori 15 % pa nikome nista....niko im nista ne brani niti ih zlo'ostavlja ...to sto ti pricas je prica za malu djecu
DelijaCG 9 months ago
@DelijaCG - pa ako si Crnogorac shto izigravash srpskog advokata !!!??? Kosovo mozda nije bilo crnogorsko , al delovi Metohije jesu ! po MK Ustavu , u svim sredinama gde je neka manjina najmanje 20 % zastupljena , i jezik te manjine je u oficijalnoj upotrebi m i ima dvojachne table , imena ulica i.t.d. ! a to je sluchaj u Skopju,Tetovu, i Gostivaru ! shta ima losheg u tome ! meni ne smeta ! i oni su ljudi , svako ima pravo na zivot dostojan choveka ! tu spada i obrazovanje,mediji i .t. d
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI ja ne izigravam nikakvog srpskog advokata,nego samo pisem kako jeste i kako je bilo
sto se tice kosova ,nije nikad ,ne mozda nego nikad nije bilo crnogorsko ...jes' metohija ,i to malo nesto...
ma ti si debil neki,svi mi se zale na njih tamo ,kako ne mogu da zive od njih i kako ce vam drzavu uzet',a ti si sad kao pametan i ne smeta ti i podrzavas to ...ja 3 co'eka u skoplje nisam sreo,a da to nije bio albanac....sve sami albanezi tamo
DelijaCG 9 months ago
@DelijaCG - ja debil ? ako sam ja debil , onda si ti DEBILCHINA ! nisam ja reko da su oni cvecke , stalno se neshto bune , al to je druga prica ! ja sam samo rekao da svako mora da ima svoja prava koja mu pripadaju po svim Konvencijama ! kakvi su , takvi , tu su , pa shta treba po tebi , da ih sve pobijemo ? a ne smeta mi jer znam kako je mojim Makedoncima u Bugarskoj i Grchkoj gde nemaju ljudska prava , ni shkole , ni priznat status , NISHTA ! SHTO NE ZELIS SEBI , NE POZELI DRUGOM !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI ma debil nad debilima!
kako neko mze da ima veca prava od starosjedioca ( npr grka ili bugara??? ) oni rodjeni tamo,i sad neki jucerasnji sljam treba da ima ista prava ka' i oni?
zivio sam ja sa takozvanim makednocima u grcku,pa znam kakva su to olos i govna ! samo gledaju kako ce da te zajebu i da je njima bolje,ne mozes ti da mi pricas o necijim pravima ! eto ja sam ima' ista prava ka' i grci,niko me nije maltretira niti ponizavao,a to sto su tvoji zemljaci govna ,tako i zive
DelijaCG 9 months ago
@DelijaCG - SUPER DEBILCHINO !
koji starosjedeoci bre kretenu jedan ? pa znash li ti da je do Balkanskih ratova Egejski i Pirinski deodeo Makedonije bio preko 70 % naseljen Makedoncima ?nikad do Balkanskih ratova te zemlje nisu bili deo GR ili BG drzave ! i danas ih ima oko 300 000 , a Grci su doneli oko milion doseljenika iz Turske da bi razbili kompaktnu slovensku Makedonsku zemlju ? oni zive tamo 15 vekova DEBILCHINO , nisu doshli juche !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI auuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!! slusaj mu price !!! jeli moguce ovo !??!?!>!
sto se ja sa debilima prepirem po internetu nikad mi nije bilo jasno
DelijaCG 9 months ago
@DelijaCG - "SLUSHAJ MU PRICE " !!!??? pa konju jedan , koje price bre ??? to su za tebe price ? aneksija od strane Grka , proterivanje oko 400 000 Makedonaca 1923 posle Lozanskog dogovora, doseljavanje oko milion kolonista iz Turske , i opet proterivanje Makedonaca posle gradjanskog rata 1949 ! i to su za tebe price ? gnjido jedna , idi beri pomorandje u Grchkoj i sisaj im ga !
BERZITI 9 months ago
@BERZITI Vlahoooo! Tuka nema mesto za vlasi kat tebe! Samo bulgari ima v Makedonija i vinagish e imalo! A site vie vlaski goveda ke vi besime!
ivankoinarski 8 months ago
@DelijaCG ne znaci ako tvoji zemljaci beru pomorandze po grckoj i kupe smece, da to svi rade ....
DelijaCG 9 months ago
@BERZITI Гледай го как прича сръбски дееба таа влашка маймуна дееба!
ivankoinarski 8 months ago
@ThePetardaProduction Well this was not Macedonia.These were bulgarians who wanted to take macedonia away from greece.So Turks and Greeks had an alliance against bulgarians in order to take it back.Paeonia (The real name of your country) created in 1991. All of your heroes are bulgarians . Your lanquage is 80 % Bulgarian...So Makedonija e Grcija ''Paeonia'' e Bulgarska.
DJD1M15 10 months ago
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Dorya9 1 year ago
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FYROM has nothing to do with ancient Macedonia!
FYROM is Bulgarian territory ....
MrNacko28 1 year ago
this music is awesome
ZamolxisGebeleizis 1 year ago
@zeznatdodaska spamer
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
Macedonia is Greece. Not Bulgarian.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 Macedonia to the macedonians, and they are bulgarians and speak bulgarian language. something you do not understand?
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
@ivankoinarski
I understand very well that you are Slavs who speak Bulgarian and you have nothing to do with Macedonia as Macedonia is one undivided with only Greek history.
What is that you don't understand ? You show fictional maps of 19th century. So ?
You are a fraud and sooner or later your lie will collapse.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 I just want to show, that in ancient Makedonia lives bulgarians. Nothig more. The ancient macedonians like Alexander and Filip was greek kings, not bulgarians, but the land of their ancient kingdom later entred in the bulgarian state and there are living bulgarians now.
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
Poor Skopjans. You are finally Bulgarians and you were too close to convince me.
Too bad. At least you are not ''nothing''.
Georgios763 1 year ago
Bilo to nekogas koga Makedonija ,,bila,,na nekogo pa se videlo deka nikoj ne moze da ja zacuva.Zato sega ke ni dozvolite sami da si ja vodime drzavata,i ke ve molime ne ni trebaat sovetnici od nastrana,gi imame mnogu ako sakate ke vi gi dademe i mozete da si gi zadrzete.
nickmakedon 1 year ago
@nickmakedon коя дръжава? Коя Македония? Вардарска, Егейска или Пиринска? Защо людете впо Вардарска Македония си мислят, че само те там са си македонци и там е само Македония, а Егейско и Пиринско са само "окупирани от бугари и грци македонски земи"... Бе в тия окупирани земи живеят 4 пъти повече люде от колкото в днешна Р. Македония. Они не сакат да имат нещо общо с таа независима Македония, дека я направиха сръбските комунисти.
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
@ivankoinarski
The ancient Macedonia my friend is exactly the same as today. A Greek territory.
Although, your map shows other things. And Bulgarians showed up in the area in mediaeval ages. There never was ancient Bulgarians in the territory. According to historians, your ancestors were the Scythians.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 yeah an before the greeks there were dinosaures.
Bvlgaria1 1 year ago
@Bvlgaria1
I 'm glad that you finally understood that. The most ancient human found in Petralona of Chalkidiki and the most ancient epigraph at Dispilio. Get it over.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 You're right. The ancien Macedonia never was our And Medieval Macedonia too. Medieval Macedonia of Basilios Makedonis Bulgaroktonis is near of Adrianople and Constantinople between V and XVII c. Between those centhuries today's macedonian lands were named south part "Epirus and Thesalia" and northern part just Bulgaria.
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
@ivankoinarski
You are confused again. You are Bulgarians, people of Scythian ancestry. You have nothing to do with Macedonia and the Byzantine empire just because you are posteriors. The ancient Macedonia lies in it's natural environment in Greece.
Macedonia's name and history are Greek.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 The confused are you, my friend. I sed, that the ancient Macedonians are greek people, but later they were changed their lands, becaus of the barbarians - slavs and bulgars. We are not scythians, just you call us scythians. we are bulgarians slavs. Our language is slavic language. We come in the Balkans in 5 cent and conquired all byzantians lands here untill Thesalonika.
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
@ivankoinarski
So the lands now turned back to the owners. Where is the problem with that ?
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 The problem is only in FYROM, my friend, we, bulgarians and greeks don't have problems betwen us. We had ... but very time past. Now we have the same ennemy - the yugoslavian communist rest the "macedonian nation" .
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
@ivankoinarski
Thank you for saying that. Now if you really believe in that, you would change the map of your channel.
At least, i hope that there never will be no problem between Greece and Bulgaria.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 You're wellcome, but I am sorry about the map, that map was created in 1853, by the europeans and turkish demografs. That map present the Bulgarian Exarchat with the bulgarians lands, where living more than 50% of bulgarians.
Have nice day!
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
@ivankoinarski
Well, there are older maps that they don't show Bulgarians!
These lands were, are and will be Greek.
;) Good day too.
Georgios763 1 year ago
@Georgios763 yes, you're right again, but the Bulgarian Orthodox church is steel here...
Yaso!
ivankoinarski 1 year ago
@Georgios763 Greek lands? :D Daaaaaaaamn ..... are u sure ur Greek or u are Macedonian ... coz they are thinkin just like .... "Woaaaaah the whole fuckin world is ours" Cmon u gotta be fuckin wit me ...
MrRantwo 1 year ago
@MrRantwo
You can go back to Scythia as long as you have nothing in common with the history of the territory.
Georgios763 1 year ago
Брате, где ти нашал прва мапа, даи ми линк молим те!
IllyrianParty 1 year ago
Oh,yea,it seems that we a\the Macedonians are not Macedonians.
How do you explain the Macedon Empire.Filip II was Macedonian,not Greek,or Illyrian.M-A-C-E-D-O-N-I-A-N ! So Alexander the Great was also a M-A-C-E-D-O-N-I-A-N ! So how can you say that the Macedonians were made by Tito when we lived here 1000 years BC ?
How do you explain this : Why was Goce Delcev fighting for the Macedonains if he was Bulgarian ? You really need to go to history class.
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction the antic macedonias were greek peoples, like epirians,m athenians and spartans, you know. The Alexander's macedonians were speaking and writing in greek language. Antic greek Macedonia was to north untill today's Bitola. Skopije never was in macedonians lands of Alexander the Great. In 7 century the bulgarians of Kuber conquired today's Macedonia and that land has changed the name to Keramia until 17 century. Today'e people of Macedonia speak bulgarian. Yo need more clases
ivankoinarski 1 year ago 2
@ThePetardaProduction Explain me, why all papers of VMORO-BMORK, VMRO were writed in pure bulgarian language? Explain me, why Goce Delchev was learbning in the officers's academy in Sofia? Explain me, why all flags of Ilinden-Preobrazhenskoto vostanie 1903 are writed in bulgarian language СВОБОДА ИЛИ СМЪРТ and not en serbian "слобода или смрт"? Explain me, why in the flag of the revolutioners of Ohrid is the bulgarian flad white, green and red??? explain me!!!!!! fuck you communist!
ivankoinarski 1 year ago 2
@ThePetardaProduction The macedonians of today have absolitely nothing in common with the ancient Macedonians. The Macedonians of today are Slavs and speak and write in Bulgarian. The ancient Macedonians spokeand wrote in Greek. Accept it dude, you are Bulgarian under another name.
BuschTek 1 year ago
@BuschTek yes im writing and reading Bulgarian...
Then explain me why haalf macedonia are barrely understanding that language ?
ThePetardaProduction 1 year ago
@ThePetardaProduction ,,, beats me dude but piss poor education comes to mind.
BuschTek 1 year ago
Its called selective editing ashole. Denying the existence of an ancient macedonian ethnic group or nation makes you the arrogant MORON only to be surpased by your delusions.
blazingmaco 1 year ago
Yes, Macedonians are Bulgarians
BuschTek 1 year ago 2
Interesting music! Who is it?
Filotimos 1 year ago