Quick question. I have the same set up and have been doing my handgun rounds for years. I just tried a few .223 and found that when I load the seating die in the manner the instructions say, it crushes the case neck to the point where it ripples out wider than the case body! Even though my OAL was spot on. So I backed the seating die out and adjusted the thumb screw on top and got the OAL in spec with no ripples in the case. Is that what you encountered when setting up your .223 turret?
I know nothin about reloading, I am considering it though especially for my M1 Garand but I was wondering for .223 just goin up to shoot in the woods is it really worth it or is it just better to buy it? Where I am an average box of .223 (20 rounds) costs around 8 bucks.
Like the vid, I'm thinking of buying one of those. Is the powder measure accurate enough for a hunting rifle? Or should you use scales? The fourth die, to crimp the case, is it necessary? It's extra on most die sets.
@mdr8088 the powder measure if used right can be accurate enough for hunting, but you should always validate it with a scale and maybe check a round here and there to be sure. the factory crimp die isnt required but it is supposed to improve performance and feeding.
@The300Polar Yes it removes the old primers and puts a new one in. When he pushes that black Safety Prime contraption forward with his hand it places a new primer in the machine. After that, on the way down, the machine inserts the primer into the case's primer pocket. It is then that we are immediately transported to a land filled with milk and rainbow colored Unicorns. ...wait a sec--omit the rainbows :P
ok anyone that can help please do. I am reloading 40 S&W. im using a lee auto disc. and i read that for 135 grain the startin load is 7.1 grains . i used the disc that says 7.1 and i am getting 6.7 what i would like to know is that is this load safe ive read it checked it but i would hate to blow myself up. please id love to test these but i am hesistent because i am new to this. ive read all i can and practiced this . i dont know why the higher bullet wieghts yield a smaller powder chrge. tnx
@mjmoto72 I also load .40 S&W on my Lee Turret Press. I had the same problem with the auto-disks when I started, so I called Lee and asked what the deal was. They informed me it is not uncommon to find a disk measuring light. They just recommended going up a hole on the disk until I found one that threw a consistent charge inside the safe parameters according to the load manual. I did just that and it's worked great ever since.
I use this same setup to load my .223. Be aware that it takes longer to prep the cases than it is to load them. You have to tumble the brass, then resize the case and then trim the case before loading them.
I also use it to load .308, 8mm mauser, 44 mag, 357 mag, .45 acp and .40 cal.
Kempf supply in Indiana, sells a great Classic turret kit online. Very much worth the money. Only thing you need to add, is a scale. In place of the crap Lee scale, they give you a few ammunition boxes. Get a good Beam scale and tumbler, and you'll be loading for under 400 most likely. Additional calibers are generally pretty cheap to.
Great starter press if you ask me. Once you get in a rhythm, you'll hit 150-200 an hour.
Me and some friends want to get into reloading, we're thinking of throwing in and getting a top notch setup like a Dillon, but after watching a few vids Lee might be the way to go.
Yea this would be great for my spray and pray guns, but is there a powder dispenser that gives really accurate results without having to measure each charge?
-a pricey benchrest powder thrower that goes offf volume
-an electric powder trickler
Neither will mount to the top of a lee turret press. You're going to end up putting a funnel on top of the powder die, dispensing powder and then dumping the powder down the funnel.
The electric tricklers have gotten really fast (ie, under 15 seconds per charge) and they incorporate a scale so it's pretty much zero effort. And with that speed it won't slow you down.
The auto charger that he has on there is pretty accurate... when changing recipes it is a slight pain, but besides that when I measure it out it's within a few grains, which is plenty good for everything but the rounds you are going to use in a competition maybe, practicing for said shoot though it is accurate enough.
Yes, the word is swage, pronounced "swâyj", like "page". It means to shape metal using a form or die and pressure or impact. Swag is what pirates and thieves take.
I have a dillon with lee dies and the bullet seater/crimp is buckling the case whenever i try to crimp around the cannalure of the hornady 55 gr sp im using... please respnd asap
try adjusting your die up so it barely gets the bullet seated to the correct depth and work your way down to final OAL. I have never used the combo seat/crimp dies but there should be adjustments for both operations
Lots of factors to consider. Some pistol cases like the .38 spc. could almost last a life time. The .223 from a semi-auto firearm like a AR-15 maybe 3-4 times MAX. Just a lot of stress on this case in these type of rifles. Hope that helps.
i have a question. assuming i buy all the neccessary equipment and tools plus the primers, spent casings, bullets and powder. overtime would reloading pay for its self and be infact cheaper than just buying a box of ammunition.
I think your question is "Why should I reload? After I get done buying all the tools and componants, wouldn't it just be easier to work another couple hours and buy my ammo with that?"
The answer is a qualified "maybe." If you love your job and hate reloading, then just buying your ammo is indeed the way to go. If you like to reload, and you shoot a lot, reloading will save you money in the long run. Less quickly with inexpensive rounds like 9mm, faster with expensive ammo like .300 Win Mag.
If you shoot a lot the savings you will get from reloading will pay for your tools in no time. Even loading 9mm. You will save in most cases at least 50% on a box of 50 shots. For example if you shoot 45 ACP that costs about $17 these days if I reload it the cost is about $6.50 per 50 shots. Also you will find the quality of the ammo is better and you will be able to fine tune your ammo for better accuracy. If you do not want to spend a lot you don't have to reply to this I can give more advise.
yea im trying to figure out what kind of press i want, go cheap with lee or jump on a a dillon or rcbs, cant make my mind up. midway has most kits on back order anyway so if you know any good sites with good prices let me know. thanks bro
I like the Lee Classic cast single stage press. It costs about $70 but it will last a lifetime. A Frankford tumbler costs about $40. A Lees auto prime is about $14. You can get an aluminum Lee press for About $45 but go for the better press for $70. Lee Die sets cost $26.(Important) Make sure you only buy carbide die sets. A great bargain is to use Lee dippers to measure your powder charges. Their is a cost to get started but it is well worth it.
Is the lee classic turret good for reloading 9mm and 45ACP? Is it advisable to manually clean all your primer pockets? What do you do if the primer won't seat all the way?
Are you using a factory crimp? If so, should the crimp be right at the case mouth edge and no further down? I am reloadong 45/70 on my turret and the crimp does not seem to push the mouth in too well unless it is screwed in a little way down. It is not passed the bullet crimp line.
I was using the factory crimp. It was crimping right at the case mouth. I have a Dillon press now, I also replaced the dies with Dillon dies for the .223. They use a taper style crimp. I think this style is more uniform. Maybe a taper style would work better for you.
@psycho26shon if you go to factorysales,com and click on catalog>Lee pistol dies you will see a list of all the deluxe pistol die sets (which include the powder through expanding dies). If you scroll down more you will find each individual die for each caliber. I usually order from factorysales as they're much cheaper than Midway or Cabelas...
Great video, this is exactly how I have my turret press setup. Its very important to have your cases resized, cleaned, trimmed, chamfered and swaged beforehand.
It isn't depth adjustable. I got an email back from Lee. None of their presses are. That means that anyone who shoots a revolver with a reduced trigger pull and NEEDS to shoot Federal primers should probably consider a Dillon, RCBS Pro 2000, or Hornady LNL.
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Quick question. I have the same set up and have been doing my handgun rounds for years. I just tried a few .223 and found that when I load the seating die in the manner the instructions say, it crushes the case neck to the point where it ripples out wider than the case body! Even though my OAL was spot on. So I backed the seating die out and adjusted the thumb screw on top and got the OAL in spec with no ripples in the case. Is that what you encountered when setting up your .223 turret?
AJS0121 3 weeks ago
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AJS0121 3 weeks ago
Thanks for posting this! Now that I've seen this in action, I'm going to purchase one!
dfsixsixsix 4 months ago
I know nothin about reloading, I am considering it though especially for my M1 Garand but I was wondering for .223 just goin up to shoot in the woods is it really worth it or is it just better to buy it? Where I am an average box of .223 (20 rounds) costs around 8 bucks.
CBRNpog 7 months ago
Like the vid, I'm thinking of buying one of those. Is the powder measure accurate enough for a hunting rifle? Or should you use scales? The fourth die, to crimp the case, is it necessary? It's extra on most die sets.
mdr8088 7 months ago
@mdr8088 the powder measure if used right can be accurate enough for hunting, but you should always validate it with a scale and maybe check a round here and there to be sure. the factory crimp die isnt required but it is supposed to improve performance and feeding.
420BenG 1 month ago
All that comes to mind watching the action is "weee!"
mrfairport 11 months ago
@The300Polar Yes it removes the old primers and puts a new one in. When he pushes that black Safety Prime contraption forward with his hand it places a new primer in the machine. After that, on the way down, the machine inserts the primer into the case's primer pocket. It is then that we are immediately transported to a land filled with milk and rainbow colored Unicorns. ...wait a sec--omit the rainbows :P
ntrudr800 11 months ago
ok anyone that can help please do. I am reloading 40 S&W. im using a lee auto disc. and i read that for 135 grain the startin load is 7.1 grains . i used the disc that says 7.1 and i am getting 6.7 what i would like to know is that is this load safe ive read it checked it but i would hate to blow myself up. please id love to test these but i am hesistent because i am new to this. ive read all i can and practiced this . i dont know why the higher bullet wieghts yield a smaller powder chrge. tnx
mjmoto72 1 year ago
@mjmoto72 I also load .40 S&W on my Lee Turret Press. I had the same problem with the auto-disks when I started, so I called Lee and asked what the deal was. They informed me it is not uncommon to find a disk measuring light. They just recommended going up a hole on the disk until I found one that threw a consistent charge inside the safe parameters according to the load manual. I did just that and it's worked great ever since.
TangoDownProduction 10 months ago
Is that the universal charging die?
fallenjones 1 year ago
what is a boattail bullet best used for of made for doing
bobiscool308 1 year ago
I have this press.....2000 rounds so far,im looking to upgrade , I shoot too much and my arm is sore LOL......Hornaday is on my mind ....
excelerater 1 year ago
Nice, thanks for the vid.
bledfourdays1 1 year ago
Question... How accurate is the auto powder charger and is there a chance it will double load?
hkrivell 1 year ago
I use this same setup to load my .223. Be aware that it takes longer to prep the cases than it is to load them. You have to tumble the brass, then resize the case and then trim the case before loading them.
I also use it to load .308, 8mm mauser, 44 mag, 357 mag, .45 acp and .40 cal.
pdog305301 2 years ago
I want to reload a .223, what kind of primer should i use? Because i dont know which one i should get theres 6 1/2, 7 1/2 and 9 1/2. TY
rhikie24 2 years ago
@rhikie24 depends on your powder, certain primers work with certain powders, some burn faster some burn slower
phil656565 2 years ago
Just make sure it's a small rifle primer. Do not use magnum small rifle primers.
pdog305301 2 years ago
@rhikie24 I'm not 100% sure, but I would say use a Large Rifle primer. That's what's used in .22-250 loads, and .223 is about the same size.
chupanibre999 1 year ago
@chupanibre999
buy a reloading manual
dyermullet 10 months ago
How do you know you are putting the right amount of powder? How accurate is it?
juanlg7 2 years ago
I wish mine was that smooth. The ram is pretty rough and has a hitch in the middle... gonna have to polish it.
Dp908 2 years ago
Great Video
worldwide390 2 years ago
Sold!
norcofreerider604 2 years ago
It is the deluxre kit?
ViperQc 2 years ago
no. This is the lee classic turret press. Cabelas sells this one as a kit.
The deluxe kit from lee comes with an older version, which is not as stiff, and harder time with taller rounds.
aeromaks 2 years ago
Is this a good press for .45acp and 9mm?
tripmatt1 2 years ago
I load .38, .357, 9mm, .44 mag and .45 ACP with no problems.
argo84 2 years ago
where do the spent primers go?
robert02109REO 2 years ago
The old primmers fall out the bottom of the die into a tube
mustang65az 2 years ago
@robert02109REO there's a tube underneath the machine. You can put either a cap on it, and dump it occasionally, or direct it into a waste basket.
IndyGunFreak 1 year ago
@robert02109REO It looks like he deprimed this brass before using this press.
MAYNARD4507 1 year ago
thank's lot's sir for the impo.
0RG07 2 years ago
nice relaoder sir where did you buy that and how much it cost ? that's a lee classic turret press
0RG07 2 years ago
Kempf supply in Indiana, sells a great Classic turret kit online. Very much worth the money. Only thing you need to add, is a scale. In place of the crap Lee scale, they give you a few ammunition boxes. Get a good Beam scale and tumbler, and you'll be loading for under 400 most likely. Additional calibers are generally pretty cheap to.
Great starter press if you ask me. Once you get in a rhythm, you'll hit 150-200 an hour.
IndyGunFreak 2 years ago
Me and some friends want to get into reloading, we're thinking of throwing in and getting a top notch setup like a Dillon, but after watching a few vids Lee might be the way to go.
GeneralG1810 2 years ago
how much did that cost?
22kill3r 2 years ago
not even $200
junkerboy2251 2 years ago
Actually $130
GADeerHunter1 2 years ago
Yea this would be great for my spray and pray guns, but is there a powder dispenser that gives really accurate results without having to measure each charge?
eternetytenrete 3 years ago 4
that powder measure he has on there is supposed to be pretty accurate
metalpwner 2 years ago
For high accuracy your choices are:
-a pricey benchrest powder thrower that goes offf volume
-an electric powder trickler
Neither will mount to the top of a lee turret press. You're going to end up putting a funnel on top of the powder die, dispensing powder and then dumping the powder down the funnel.
The electric tricklers have gotten really fast (ie, under 15 seconds per charge) and they incorporate a scale so it's pretty much zero effort. And with that speed it won't slow you down.
JimFacebookVids 2 years ago
The auto charger that he has on there is pretty accurate... when changing recipes it is a slight pain, but besides that when I measure it out it's within a few grains, which is plenty good for everything but the rounds you are going to use in a competition maybe, practicing for said shoot though it is accurate enough.
totkrieg 2 years ago
Good video, very helpful in showing what this setup is like.
Isn't swaged pronounced "swajed" not "swagged"? But a minor thing. Good vid.
classof77 3 years ago
Yes, the word is swage, pronounced "swâyj", like "page". It means to shape metal using a form or die and pressure or impact. Swag is what pirates and thieves take.
kf4wvk 2 years ago
I have a dillon with lee dies and the bullet seater/crimp is buckling the case whenever i try to crimp around the cannalure of the hornady 55 gr sp im using... please respnd asap
guitarfreak189 3 years ago
try adjusting your die up so it barely gets the bullet seated to the correct depth and work your way down to final OAL. I have never used the combo seat/crimp dies but there should be adjustments for both operations
weeniewawa 3 years ago
ya ive tried that and it still does but i ordered a lee factory crimp die so HOPEFULLY thattll help
guitarfreak189 3 years ago
is there a limit to how many times you can reload a casing?
Otacon237 3 years ago
Lots of factors to consider. Some pistol cases like the .38 spc. could almost last a life time. The .223 from a semi-auto firearm like a AR-15 maybe 3-4 times MAX. Just a lot of stress on this case in these type of rifles. Hope that helps.
Free2Reload 3 years ago
Yes, I was actually wondering about 5.45s, which I'm assuming would last the same as a .223
Otacon237 3 years ago
how long would a 357 magnum case last?
djsintek 3 years ago
@Free2Reload So what about military brass, since case walls are thicker wouldn't they last longer?
sackcheck 1 year ago
@Otacon237 do your homework please
frasatat2 8 months ago
i have a question. assuming i buy all the neccessary equipment and tools plus the primers, spent casings, bullets and powder. overtime would reloading pay for its self and be infact cheaper than just buying a box of ammunition.
Dingusmaster792 3 years ago
I think your question is "Why should I reload? After I get done buying all the tools and componants, wouldn't it just be easier to work another couple hours and buy my ammo with that?"
The answer is a qualified "maybe." If you love your job and hate reloading, then just buying your ammo is indeed the way to go. If you like to reload, and you shoot a lot, reloading will save you money in the long run. Less quickly with inexpensive rounds like 9mm, faster with expensive ammo like .300 Win Mag.
AGreyMan 3 years ago
Sorry, I was trying to reply to "Dingusmaster."
AGreyMan 3 years ago
thanx man, cuz i had a fiend showed me how to reload and yea it was really interresting, so yea thanx
Dingusmaster792 3 years ago
I wish my employeer would let me work all the OT I wanted
swinkdaniel 3 years ago
If you shoot a lot the savings you will get from reloading will pay for your tools in no time. Even loading 9mm. You will save in most cases at least 50% on a box of 50 shots. For example if you shoot 45 ACP that costs about $17 these days if I reload it the cost is about $6.50 per 50 shots. Also you will find the quality of the ammo is better and you will be able to fine tune your ammo for better accuracy. If you do not want to spend a lot you don't have to reply to this I can give more advise.
crazyredlion4500 3 years ago
yea im trying to figure out what kind of press i want, go cheap with lee or jump on a a dillon or rcbs, cant make my mind up. midway has most kits on back order anyway so if you know any good sites with good prices let me know. thanks bro
wadezbur 3 years ago
I like the Lee Classic cast single stage press. It costs about $70 but it will last a lifetime. A Frankford tumbler costs about $40. A Lees auto prime is about $14. You can get an aluminum Lee press for About $45 but go for the better press for $70. Lee Die sets cost $26.(Important) Make sure you only buy carbide die sets. A great bargain is to use Lee dippers to measure your powder charges. Their is a cost to get started but it is well worth it.
crazyredlion4500 3 years ago
thanx man
wadezbur 3 years ago
yes
easchlag 3 years ago
Is the lee classic turret good for reloading 9mm and 45ACP? Is it advisable to manually clean all your primer pockets? What do you do if the primer won't seat all the way?
nck1572 3 years ago
Are you using a factory crimp? If so, should the crimp be right at the case mouth edge and no further down? I am reloadong 45/70 on my turret and the crimp does not seem to push the mouth in too well unless it is screwed in a little way down. It is not passed the bullet crimp line.
1004w12 3 years ago
Sorry it took so long to respond.
I was using the factory crimp. It was crimping right at the case mouth. I have a Dillon press now, I also replaced the dies with Dillon dies for the .223. They use a taper style crimp. I think this style is more uniform. Maybe a taper style would work better for you.
Good Luck,
Free2Reload 3 years ago
@Free2Reload where did you get the powder through expanding die? i looked on lee and can't find one.
psycho26shon 6 months ago
@psycho26shon if you go to factorysales,com and click on catalog>Lee pistol dies you will see a list of all the deluxe pistol die sets (which include the powder through expanding dies). If you scroll down more you will find each individual die for each caliber. I usually order from factorysales as they're much cheaper than Midway or Cabelas...
drfroglegs 5 months ago
Great video, this is exactly how I have my turret press setup. Its very important to have your cases resized, cleaned, trimmed, chamfered and swaged beforehand.
pdog305301 4 years ago
Is the primer seating depth adjustable on this unit? I shoot revolver and need to seat Federal at a different depth than CCI or Winchester.
jameslovesjammie 4 years ago
I don't think it is. Feel free to call Lee up at 262-673-3075 and let us know what they have to say.
Free2Reload 4 years ago
It isn't depth adjustable. I got an email back from Lee. None of their presses are. That means that anyone who shoots a revolver with a reduced trigger pull and NEEDS to shoot Federal primers should probably consider a Dillon, RCBS Pro 2000, or Hornady LNL.
jameslovesjammie 3 years ago
I use a hand primer you can feel the primer in just size and prime brass then use the above steps - the autoprime
bestfreesat 3 years ago
great video, thanks
elpidiovaldez2006 4 years ago