Robert Spencer Book Review-Ch.3

[Batavian187]

We completely disagree on the status of the Qu'ran and it's content but that should not be a surprise.

What we can do besides pointing out it's historical scientific failures is to point at it's real world consequences.

In other words has anything that is proclaimed in the Qu'ran should happen when people follow it actually come true?

And if not why has it failed ? Can it not be followed ?

Can you give a real world example of the correct way to practice your religion?

[Batavian187]

YOU asked me for an example of a verse LIKE the surah's in the Qu'ran.

I gave you one , I don't care what you consider it to be, the fact is it's there. And when non-Muslims non-Arabs hear it they cannot distinguish it from the Qu'ran which makes Qu'ranic recitation nothing special.

[Batavian187]

watch?v=sv6i8PaDYuY is one such example i'm sure there are other examples.

I've personally tested this one with a Muslim and he couldn't say if it was Qu'ran or not just by listening to it.

Which goes a long way to debunk the theories and myths surrounding Qu'ranic recitation.

[Batavian187]

A Paul worshipper teaching from the Bible goes like this.

That you can know the truth of a certain idea or concept by looking at it's fruits (Matthew chapter 7 verse 15-20)

A wise saying if i ever heard one.

[Batavian187]

IF we look at the state of the Islamic world compared to the non Islamic world,and the state of Muslim and there behavior in general it shouldn't be a surprise people fear Islam.

They fear Islam like they fear natural disasters or disease.

[Batavian187]

I think the biggest proof that Islam isn't the religion of truth is that Islamic societies are the opposite of what the Qu'ran teaches that it's followers would end up becoming if they follow and implement it's laws and teachings.

Islam has failed Muslims and has not provided what it suggests to provide.

Neither does the Qu'ran correspond with science in what we know of our origins and the nature of the universe and it's origins and evolution.

[Batavian187]

There have been many examples throughout history of people making chapters that seem like the Qu'ran.

You can find examples of it on youtube.

Someone that doesn't know the Qu'ran or Arabic would mistake it for Qu'ran.

However the fact is that you cannot produce a chapter like it because you cannot produce a chapter like Shakespear either.You can make it sound like Shakespear but it can never be Shakespear..

[Batavian187]

You clearly have no clue.

If it was "the West" purpose and goal to destroy Islam do you really think our leaders would go about it in such a half baked, pathetic and non-effective manner?

"The West" considers Islam a religion of peace,they simply want the oil resources not destroy Islam.

NATO soldiers in Afghanistan spend more time building mosques and madrassas and feeding the starving Afghans then anything else.

Islam made the condition of Muslims what they are not anyone else.

[Batavian187]

I know of no such hadith, I do know it's full of her sitting on his knee, playing with dolls,sitting on a swing, and being guided by the hand by adults.

Not something 17 year olds do.

But I understand how it's utterly embarrassing to know the perfect example for mankind to follow according to Islam, was a pedophile robber and mass murderer with a fetish for camel piss and cupping (bloodlettting,hijama).

[Batavian187]

The hadiths are very clear married at 6 consumated the marriage (that means he had sex with her) at 9 years old.

[muslim610]

Good video, oh and jihad=struggle!in Arabic! thats all,so haters don't try to make it more then that.And further more,the more u hate on muslims the more those who have more then one brain cell, will look into it them selfs and discover your lies ,if there unbiased!so thanks for encouraging the proper investigation of Islam for us.well done.

[Batavian187]

Muslims are required to uphold Sharia law in their lives.

Any laws and ways which go against it are considered oppressive and as an injustice.

Sanctioning the use of force as you saw done to the Meccan pagans.

Muhammed married a 6 year old.

Laws which are enforced that prevent Muslims from marrying 6 year olds are considered oppressive.

Jihad is done in many ways but all with the aim of having societies shaped to the laws of Islam.

This is what they call opening the way for Islam.

[Omer698]

Jihad is people's excuse to hate muslims , sadly they're confused about what it means. Jihad is in every religion don't be hypocrites people.

[c4foru]

Let's see him debate Robert Spencer.

[KAOSKTRL]

He knows better than Kathir about Jihad? I dont think so.

[ozzycda]

Not sure this is directed towards me...but if it is to my memory credit I don't remembe saying I knew better than Ibn Kathir. However any Tafsir is commentary and opinion of the commentator which people can disagree or agree with, peace and thanks for watching my videos.

[Ameriki1]

Can you explain what Dar al Harb is and what it means if you are so well versed, and if there is nothing at all in the Koran that would suggest perpetual war. Have you ever Read the Koran?

[ozzycda]

I believe that is the concept of house of war and Dar al Islam is house of peace, this was a concept created after the Quran was compiled, the Quran does not mention the world in two "houses". This is a concept that not all Muslis believe, and even if they do, to what extent is another story entirely, hope this helps as well, thanks for watching my videos, peace

[ozzycda]

I would also read Sura 8 along with 9, since most scholars agree the two go together, since sura 9 doesnt start with IN the name of god the compassinate the merciful, peace

[thecamelsback]

Strange creep. He hasn't got a henna dyed beard yet, is he past puberty? Is there ONE Muhammedan out there with a brain..???

[Ameriki1]

Qur'an 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

This sounds genocidal. Can you explain this for me?

[ozzycda]

I agree it sounds genocidal, until you read verse six of that same chapter, I would look into the historical background, in most translations that word unbeliever says Pagans, hope this helps.

[Ameriki1]

Wow do you live on the planet earth, or are you just deaf, dumb and blind?

[2005omar]

good video

[Lormaul]

Man....you became short...I can hardly see your face :o) How long does it take to make all this videos?? You did a good Job.

[ozzycda]

Lol, I know I had the lap top sitting on a printer, and i am a short person as it is....it ususally takes an hour to make all the vidoes at the most....peace!

[Lormaul]

lol an hour and than you have hours to read the stuff you re talking about....still interessting stuff :o)Peace.

[BonsaiSky]

Great video.

[123onlyfacts]

thanks again for ur hard work and sharing with us!

May Allah grant you reward and blessing out of his Mercy!

[sofyan]

damn and this book is a best seller?!

[traitor323]

Thanks alot for making the vid bro, but i don't think its going to harm spencers cause at all...most of the goons that believe him never watch rebuttals. peace

[omarkasule0]

sorry i made a spelling error i meant to say keep up the great WORK my friend :)

[omarkasule0]

Great video once more Colin, keep up the great war my friend. :)

[getaranjiwaramlee]

Very fair critic for the unfair attack on Islam. Thanks again brother. Peace.

[shakirshuvo]

Thank you so much for doing the research. Unfortunately this fascist, Robert Spencer, is spreading his bigotry though mass media, for example, Fox News, his websites Jihad Watch and Dhimmi Watch.