theres one thing i disagree with and its men and women should be equal. now now ladies i love and respect you and im in NO way a sexist but men naturally lead and women follow. i love that women love to cater. i love that women are the more sweet non violent sex. i love that women are feminine and "girly". most women want a man to lead anyways regardless of religion. women want to be loved and men want to be respected. we should be equal as human beings in a sense that womens voice also counts
@aasimazam, can't wait to see your reaction when He (capitalised to emphasise the deity like status of nonstampcollector, teehee) creates a video on Islam.
Not the scientists and so called "advanced" or "civilised" people of the world who couldn't give two fucks about what happens in the world. To busy worrying about paying the bills and keeping up with celebrity news to realise what is actually happening in the world and making stupid YouTube videos attacking those who don't instead of addressing the problem head on. Some shit head will reply to this with his self righteous bullshit - save it! I don't give a fuck what you think.
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what a crock of shit this video is. Pure propaganda bullshit. I'm not a Christian but this is just stupid.
I'm sure that science and technology has made the world an infinitely better place FOR EUROPEANS AND NORTH AMERICANS! The rest of the world has to starve and be bombed with technological and biological advancements to stunt their growth just in case they challenge the centralised wealth of a few people. Its majority independent religious groups that help the poorer people in the world.
@aasimazam Yeah, what I should have done is included the idea that Jesus could have & ought to have converted all the world's deserts into fertile productive land, so as to alleviate or eliminate starvation. I really should have included that.
@NonStampCollector laughable how little you actually know about the world sitting judging it from your computer. So you are trying to tell me famine is caused by lack of productive land?
@aasimazam No. The religious groups exploit the poorer populations to gain converts. Further, the obvious point of the video is that the the supposedly loving Christian deity had the opportunity to fix vast problems for humanity AND show omnipotence, yet did not. Whether its followers do good works in the future, which by nature must be significantly less impressive than what the deity can supposedly perform, is irrelevant.
Read the description box. Reading Comprehension FAIL.
@TheJudoKevin and what makes you think that humanity had such problems at that time? I suppose arguing about this from my perspective seeing as I am not a Christian is futile as essentially you are arguing against them. However my grievance with the overall effect of your so called, intellectual free thinking movement that advocates faults with religion in general when your "answer to everything" science has given nothing to the world apart from fat pockets.
@aasimazam The video does not say that science is teh answer to "everything." Nor does it promote "free thinking." The video is directed toward a specific topic. You have a different point to make, which may or may not be valid - but it is not directed at this video, and thus your criticism of the video is invalid - not necessarily your viewpoint, which should be the topic of a different discussion. No more, no less.
@aasimazam Nothing? Information technology, advanced irrigation, Improved crop sustainability, longer lives, reduced disease, Transportation, the internet, computers and machines which perform brutal necessary tasks so humans don't have to, telephones, televisions, materials which are longer lasting and easier to manufacture. Earthquake proof buildings, flood defences, water supplies which are resistant to disease and drout.
Science has given the whole world a whole lot. Be grateful.
@aasimazam What a lie. Science has given us everything we have today. All the progress we've made, all the diseases that no longer exist... ALL OF THAT Religion has given us...shit.
@meaninter03 disease doesn't exist? What progress? For a minority of the world, the people that have money yes, for others nothing. Advancements ONLY FOR PROFIT not for humanity.
@aasimazam Fuck off. The whole world is better off today. Stop huffing the paint of class warfare, victim. There are 7 billion people in the world today, and while we don't live in paradise, we live exponentially better than we did 100 years ago.
@aasimazam Thanks. Capitalism works. And the 30%, or 2 billion people equals the world's population half a century ago. Science and its improvements have made it possible for an additional 5 billion to live.
@meaninter03 decentralisation of wealth for one would be a great start and maybe some good might come into the world then. Eradicate the interest based system the world runs on, stop feeding the world bullshit about global warming and saving the planet by "switching off your TV" when bombs are being dropped willy nilly. There are many things but I really can't be bothered. But that's a start.
@aasimazam "Eradicate the interest system the world runs on" - sounds fuzzy and warm but I don't know what kind of solution is this. It can either mean the state seizes all the wealth and distributes it equally, or anarcho-socialism. In either case, despite your cynicism about world affairs you seem to have a ridiculously optimistic idea about human nature and motivation, i.e. people working just the same regardless of how much they get for their work, all for the sake of equality.
@aasimazam "bullshit about global warming" - nice soundbite, no facts to back it up and plenty to debunk. "bombs are being dropped willy nilly" - believe it or not the world is larger than the Middle East, and the few other countries were wars are currently being fought. If you prefer the good ol' times of religious and ethnic-based wars then I guess you are looking at the past with rose tinted glasses.
@aasimazam Interest is a fantastic thing. It drives economic growth.
BS about global warming? You'd better hope it's BS. It's gonna hit the poor the hardest.
What other BS are you going to spew?
Btw: wealth is decentralizing. Capitalism is spreading, and the poor are getting jobs, factories, middle classes. Look at China. Their growth is helping others grow.
@meaninter03 do you hear yourself? Interest is ALL about the centralisation of wealth. Capitalism is a false idea and it does no one except the person(s) at the top good. The rest maybe employed but the majority must live hand to mouth. Most "employment" in the third world is exploitation anyway by western corporations. etc etc ... this is getting boring.
@aasimazam At least in my country most employment (80%) is based on small and medium local enterprises, and not on Western corporations, and the remaining 20% is a mix of local and foreign investment. Other countries get more foreign investment, but very few actually want to get rid of it. Ask the Chinese whether they want foreign investment to leave them, they'll murder you. They've done everything they can to attract it.
@aasimazam You are one delusional piece of work, you know that? All you are doing is presenting problems (some of which are completly irrelevant and are hardly problems) and providing no solutions to them what-so-ever! China's growth is helping others grow? WTF is wrong with you CHINA doesn't even want to grow, their very society is headed for colapse, didn't you take a fricken biology class and learn about population growth? Firstly what is your ...And shit i ran out of characters...
@aasimazam "disease doesn't exist?" Well looks like someone needs to improve reading comprehension. There are many diseases that have been erradicated over the years, or rendered practically harmless, and not just in Europe and North America. Average life expectancy has increased EVERYWHERE in the last century, and not just for the wealthy. Looking at the past you'll only find more misery, ignorance and bigotry, regardless of which part of the world you are looking at.
@aasimazam No rose tinted glasses, just plain facts. You must believe developed countries treat their sick with voodoo - being from a thirld world country myself (Bolivia), let me tell you that we would have it a lot harder if we would cling to superstition as a substitute for Western science. Does the world still have wars, poverty and sickness? Sure, but it comes nowhere close to what it was a century ago.
@CoonAndFriends2 I'm not advocating that vodoo magic be a substitute and I did not deny that there were advancements, there is still incurable diseases in the world, cancer is just one example, I could mention many like arthiritis, diabetes, etc that are not cured, rather relieved. My point was the imbalance because to have those advancements you need make sure the people on top are making a profit.
@aasimazam So basically you are criticizing the video for not being about the topic you are interested about, namely economic inequality. You then made a vague point about the need to "decentralize wealth", without precising how this should be done and whether it is possible to maintain scientific progress (whose importance I'm not sure you fully appreciate) without an incentive structure that relies on self-interest. I get the feeling you are only commenting to be provocative.
@CoonAndFriends2 Actually its linked, my argument was, what is to blame, maybe I should have came across clearer. There isn't enough space in these boxes to get a point a across and spanning across three or four comments is really distracting.
Basically the video is faulting God and religion for apparently not doing anything about the ailments of the world. By extension the very people laying blame out their trust in scientific knowledge which isn't much different in principle to religion.
@aasimazam Apparently you've missed the point of the video. No atheist really blames God for anything, since atheists don't believe God exists. What the author of the video is arguing is that if the Christian all-knowing all-loving God would exist, instead of giving a set of apalling commandments he would give scientific knowledge to help people overcome many of the treatable diseases of that time. Religion has historically been an obstacle to the attainment of such knowledge.
@aasimazam Your assertion that scientific knowledge isn't different in principle to religion is just plain wrong. Science isn't a basis for morality, it doesn't serve a moral purpose and scientists don't pretend it does. It is the people that make use of it that make moral and immoral decisions, and they do so without resort to science. Religion, by contrast, carries the pretense of setting guidelines for moral decision-making, which is what is being criticized in this video.
@aasimazam Lastly, you repeat once again your argument that the evil in the world is caused by the imbalance of wealth. Even if, for the sake of argument, we would accept this argument as true, you haven't fleshed out an alternative to capitalism or a mixed economy. You are just blaming science for something it doesn't pretend to resolve (i.e. bad morals, imbalance of wealth), and capitalism for not achieving what no other system I know of can plausibly achieve.
@CoonAndFriends2 the reason for the and evil in the world isn't because some beardy man is telling me to kill everyone or starve whole countries through debt - the cause is the imbalance of wealth. But you won't understand this. Its the root of everything since the beginning of time, people only want power to gain wealth.
Thoughtful video - got to keep up the good fight against religion. Man with no superstitious belief in gods, ghosts, spirits or monsters is the next stage in his evolution.
@MultiMooseProduction Isn't that been put in place due to the council of Nikea and all other dissenters were sent to exile or worse? guess that's why so many gospels are missing
Yes, I'm sure there were many factual errors in this video clip. In reality, it was WAY different when the Jesus plan was concocted. Since you are not ignorant (of course), you possess the true knowledge about how the Christian god really did his work. Please share your knowledge in the comments, so that we atheists will become less ignorant and more enlightened by the actual facts.
Slight problem: If you stopped Earth quakes and volcanoes, you'd cut off the carbon cycle which is needed to stabilize the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
@Keitaro2011: Well, an omnipotent God can basically do magic, so yeah. But I thought it was an interesting point that you can't just turn off earthquakes and volcanoes without serious repercussions.
@dcarrera01 Are you suggesting that GOD can't do whatever the fuck it wants? It invented this shit, right? So the natural laws you are quoting are an irrelevance.
Psh, it's okay. Actual lives and suffering don't matter. All Jesus cared about was getting 20% of mankind to go to heaven, while the other 80% or more would inevitably burn forever for being designed to use their free will to specifically reject him.
"Millions and millions of people are going to continue to starve to death throughout the rest of human history because, rather than do anything helpful about it, you'd prefer to go around spitting on disabled people."
i wish somebody would actually do the research to show which myths had things like virgin births and which did not. we can't keep perpetuating false claims
(2) Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"
Angel: Why do u wanna help such a limited number of people in just one time and place when you can so easily give just a tiny piece of your infinite knowledge for them to pass on and build upon and help all of humanity" God: Look I know what your saying but i wanna keep up my mysterious image. It's much more mysterious to be able to end disease but choose not to".
WTF?!!??!
Fucking cunt, he won't share his scientific and medical knowledge?!?
Good video but you failed the easiest most easiest test that this whole "christian" idea the reason its been around "faith" not that I am relegious myself - just educated
One's life here on Earth is as insignificant as an eyeblink, however it does serve a purpose and that is to show God who will and who will not be spending eternity with Him.
@gilon1239 "i am a god fearing man but this was funny as hell"
It's nice that you take it that way. When something equivalent to this can be shown publicly in places like Pakistan, Indonesia, or Iran, with people laughing about it rather than yelling for the video creators to die, then humanity will have reached a reasonable level of tollerance and enlightenment. Let's hope it happens within our life time. (A worthwhile goal for anyone living in such parts of the world...)
He said equal not equivalent. May be differences between the genders, but that doesn't mean one gender should be treated inferior. He says we'd all be better off if there was less discrimination (i guess i can't talk for NSC) because societies with less of that tend to have better economies and social stuff.
Thanks for the vid NSC - used it on an Alpha course + it completely flawed the 2 Christians there lol. Just 1 rebuttal though - if Jesus cured all disease, surely we would blame him for creating it on the first place..?
That's the case of medieval Europe. The Middle East was the scientific Mecca (for lack of a better term) because Islamic society allowed scientific study to be published and spread, surprisingly.
"All the fathers of modern science were Bible-believers. All the advances in modern science and technology have occurred in Bible-based western civilization, especially Christian America. The inventor of the CAT scanner is an outspoken creationist. How many tech or science advancements have come out of secular societies like the USSR, Cuba, or N. Korea? "
@Lishy1 "All of the fathers of modern science were Bible-believers"... that's just a patently wrong statement. Google atheist inventors. You asked for a counter-argument, but I can't seem to find your argument... Maybe you are implying that the religion someone subscribes to when they discover or invent something is supposed to prove something about that religion? Note that over 80% of the people in prison are christian, what does that prove? :-)
@physicalgravy - you call yourself a Christian but this simple video shows why he wasn't from God. Even if God exists, I don't feel he would care about us enough to touch our little lives with any goodness. Why believe in such a person? You know science is correct, then what is God's role? As always, to fill in the details you don't know yet. Physicists are testing the hypothesis that empty space-time can create universes, it is the last nail in the coffin of a God-head creating anything.
I'm Christian and I find this hilarious haha. I just never understood why atheists care so much about religion. If atheists are right, shouldn't they happy instead of being so pissed off about religion? Not that you are like that, I just know a few that are infuriated by it and it makes me scratch my head why they care so much. Again, this was hilarious.
@physicalgravy religion is a big part of the world which unfortunately we have to share with you and you're beliefs have direct consequences in it. For example: gay rights, teaching creationism instead of evolution, genetic research. So why if we are right should we be happy? If we're right the world stinks, that's why we speak out against religion
@wHisperis001 Actually I don't have a problem with gay people. I think it's gross and a fucked in their genetics but I don't think they are evil. Who am I to say how they should live or makes them happy? I think creationism is fucking retarded. Anyone who believes Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs is a moron. I think evolution is right and so is the big bang. Not all Christian believe the same stuff nor are they all completely insane. Don't forget, God isn't what's wrong with religion, it's people.
@physicalgravy ah yes after all this youtube debates I sometimes forget people like you exist. Good to be remembered. I guess if everyone was like you we wouldn't have much to disagree on. I can imagine being in your shoes that atheism might look aggressive towards you but I guess you have to blame the fundamentalists on "your side" because they provoke us most of the time. Out fault is in grouping you together in one group
@wHisperis001 Fundamentalists are insane. Believing every word of the bible is ridiculous. Whether or not it is the word of God, it was still put together by people and those people threw away quite a bit of text because they didn't agree with what was written.
@physicalgravy "Don't forget, God isn't what's wrong with religion, it's people."
Unless god is just a fictional construct devised by people to tell themselves fairy tales to explain what they don't understand, in which case the reason the god of the Old Testament is such a twisted sadistic fuckwad is that he IS us......
So then the answer becomes what's wrong with god and religion is it's all made up bullshit used to excuse our own behavior.
@physicalgravy We are not bit pissed about religion, and we are generally very happy with the absence of it. I know if says in that magical book to "Spread this truth" to everyone you come across, some of us just do not want to be bothered with it. So if you stop spreading your fantasy, we will stop bitching about it. Do not pray in our schools and we will not think in your church.
@physicalgravy "I just never understood why atheists care so much about religion."
Maybe it's because believers have this nasty habit of trying to wrest political control over their societies, establishing oppressive theocracies, and torturing those who disagree (see the inquisition, and the republican party).
The fact that you can't own up to that is either an indication of your immense duplicity or unbridled stupidity. Or both. At the tender age of 22, my vote goes to brainwashed and stupid.
People dont need to live longer in their evil state, they need to turn and connect to God and enjoy the life of God forever. All else is misery and emptiness. These vids are reasoning of evil, deceiving men to eternal death and separation from their creator.
What you are missing: You are saying that God/Jesus (not the same BTW) should have just fixed things. Well if that would've happened we would have just screwed them up again ! We need to actually change for things to change. All misery in the world is a reflection of our soul condition & if we all chose Love 24/7 then the world would change. But we don't do we ? God's Laws are perfect & this world & its suffering reflects our choices
@MrZapatista44 God's Laws are not perfect. Example: Executing people because they work on a Sunday is not a perfect law. But, I agree with you when you imply that WE need to make the world better and not wait for a deity to do so. Cheers!
@davidmerriss Tht isn't one of God's Laws but one of mans ... the bible is bullshit & no i am not christian .. i loathe religion ... but i don't allow religion to own god ... that would be silly ... we don't even respect religion ... Stop trying to define God & allow God to define herself to you ...
get over that book of lies u call the "holy" bible, watch the other videos if u still think the bible is legit. if u still believe in it after that then there is no hoe for u.....
Genius! I've watched almost all your videos now and this may be my favorite! I'll be using this video to help enlighten others to bring them out of their fear based life. Thank you for sharing your vast bible knowledge and taking the time to create these videos!
Blasphemous !!!BASTARDS!!! THIS NEVER HAPPENED.. I NEVER MET WITH MY ANGELS TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS ISSUE,,, SHAME ON YOU NONSTAMPCOLLECTOR.. I WILL SEE YOU SOON IN HEAVEN,,,
It would have been a lot better if you had taken the time to think about the glaring scholarly errors you were making for the sake of your propaganda. Unfortunately, you end up being no better than those you criticize and the whole thing is just another dirty joke which George Carlin did better a long time ago. Sorry.
I don't believe the Bible too. For us, who don't simple believe in anything some people tell us, there are only two outputs: being an atheist (which I personally consider the easiest and pleasant way) or searching for an even more incovenient "true" (I'm using it in q. marks since noone of us know the real truth). I'm talking about spiritism/kardecism. Sounds like a propaganda, but if I were you, I would search (and read) for this before getting any conclusion. Its science, philosophy, religion.
And btw, the bible is written 500 years after Jesus's death by monks who are not allowed to have sex for a life time. Its not written by God or Jesus so the idea of a God and Jesus isnt that bad if you ask me
@noforbiddenquestions jesuswas a nice guy, such a nice guy that everyone believed what he said and told stories about him those stories came in the bible, and thats it. And it doesnt metter if God makes us suffer cause if we live good we'll end up in heaven dont we? better a suffering cristian than a suffering atheist! (im not even cristian btw o_O)
@ReddoFreddo I've read the Bible, and I don't think Jesus was such a nice guy. According to what the Bible says, he made his message hard to understand (with parables) so that people couldn't figure it out and wouldn't be saved. He obliterated a fig tree because he wanted figs and it wasn't fig season. For all his supposed message of love and tolerance, he was derisive of people different from him (Samaritans, Greeks, Pharisees). He made promises about prayer that we can see simply aren't true.
God looks just like Mikael Åkerfeldt from Opeth.
CaREgIVeR666 19 hours ago
theres one thing i disagree with and its men and women should be equal. now now ladies i love and respect you and im in NO way a sexist but men naturally lead and women follow. i love that women love to cater. i love that women are the more sweet non violent sex. i love that women are feminine and "girly". most women want a man to lead anyways regardless of religion. women want to be loved and men want to be respected. we should be equal as human beings in a sense that womens voice also counts
drepop803 20 hours ago
Great!
Cupcakeforfun 1 day ago
"Her consent is neither requested nor required."
Sooo.... rape. :P
Mswordx23 1 day ago
@aasimazam, can't wait to see your reaction when He (capitalised to emphasise the deity like status of nonstampcollector, teehee) creates a video on Islam.
yossie33 2 days ago
Not the scientists and so called "advanced" or "civilised" people of the world who couldn't give two fucks about what happens in the world. To busy worrying about paying the bills and keeping up with celebrity news to realise what is actually happening in the world and making stupid YouTube videos attacking those who don't instead of addressing the problem head on. Some shit head will reply to this with his self righteous bullshit - save it! I don't give a fuck what you think.
aasimazam 2 days ago
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what a crock of shit this video is. Pure propaganda bullshit. I'm not a Christian but this is just stupid.
I'm sure that science and technology has made the world an infinitely better place FOR EUROPEANS AND NORTH AMERICANS! The rest of the world has to starve and be bombed with technological and biological advancements to stunt their growth just in case they challenge the centralised wealth of a few people. Its majority independent religious groups that help the poorer people in the world.
aasimazam 2 days ago
@aasimazam Yeah, what I should have done is included the idea that Jesus could have & ought to have converted all the world's deserts into fertile productive land, so as to alleviate or eliminate starvation. I really should have included that.
And in fact I did.
NonStampCollector 2 days ago 27
@NonStampCollector laughable how little you actually know about the world sitting judging it from your computer. So you are trying to tell me famine is caused by lack of productive land?
aasimazam 2 days ago
@aasimazam No. The religious groups exploit the poorer populations to gain converts. Further, the obvious point of the video is that the the supposedly loving Christian deity had the opportunity to fix vast problems for humanity AND show omnipotence, yet did not. Whether its followers do good works in the future, which by nature must be significantly less impressive than what the deity can supposedly perform, is irrelevant.
Read the description box. Reading Comprehension FAIL.
TheJudoKevin 2 days ago
@TheJudoKevin and what makes you think that humanity had such problems at that time? I suppose arguing about this from my perspective seeing as I am not a Christian is futile as essentially you are arguing against them. However my grievance with the overall effect of your so called, intellectual free thinking movement that advocates faults with religion in general when your "answer to everything" science has given nothing to the world apart from fat pockets.
aasimazam 2 days ago
@aasimazam The video does not say that science is teh answer to "everything." Nor does it promote "free thinking." The video is directed toward a specific topic. You have a different point to make, which may or may not be valid - but it is not directed at this video, and thus your criticism of the video is invalid - not necessarily your viewpoint, which should be the topic of a different discussion. No more, no less.
TheJudoKevin 2 days ago
@aasimazam Nothing? Information technology, advanced irrigation, Improved crop sustainability, longer lives, reduced disease, Transportation, the internet, computers and machines which perform brutal necessary tasks so humans don't have to, telephones, televisions, materials which are longer lasting and easier to manufacture. Earthquake proof buildings, flood defences, water supplies which are resistant to disease and drout.
Science has given the whole world a whole lot. Be grateful.
SPACKlick 2 days ago
@aasimazam What a lie. Science has given us everything we have today. All the progress we've made, all the diseases that no longer exist... ALL OF THAT Religion has given us...shit.
meaninter03 2 days ago
@meaninter03 disease doesn't exist? What progress? For a minority of the world, the people that have money yes, for others nothing. Advancements ONLY FOR PROFIT not for humanity.
aasimazam 2 days ago
@aasimazam Fuck off. The whole world is better off today. Stop huffing the paint of class warfare, victim. There are 7 billion people in the world today, and while we don't live in paradise, we live exponentially better than we did 100 years ago.
meaninter03 2 days ago
@meaninter03 by "we" you mean about 25-30% of the worlds population. Congratulations.
aasimazam 2 days ago
@aasimazam Thanks. Capitalism works. And the 30%, or 2 billion people equals the world's population half a century ago. Science and its improvements have made it possible for an additional 5 billion to live.
meaninter03 2 days ago
@aasimazam It's so easy to bash hard work and profit. What alternatives have you got?!
meaninter03 2 days ago
@meaninter03 decentralisation of wealth for one would be a great start and maybe some good might come into the world then. Eradicate the interest based system the world runs on, stop feeding the world bullshit about global warming and saving the planet by "switching off your TV" when bombs are being dropped willy nilly. There are many things but I really can't be bothered. But that's a start.
aasimazam 2 days ago
@aasimazam "Eradicate the interest system the world runs on" - sounds fuzzy and warm but I don't know what kind of solution is this. It can either mean the state seizes all the wealth and distributes it equally, or anarcho-socialism. In either case, despite your cynicism about world affairs you seem to have a ridiculously optimistic idea about human nature and motivation, i.e. people working just the same regardless of how much they get for their work, all for the sake of equality.
CoonAndFriends2 2 days ago
@aasimazam "bullshit about global warming" - nice soundbite, no facts to back it up and plenty to debunk. "bombs are being dropped willy nilly" - believe it or not the world is larger than the Middle East, and the few other countries were wars are currently being fought. If you prefer the good ol' times of religious and ethnic-based wars then I guess you are looking at the past with rose tinted glasses.
CoonAndFriends2 2 days ago
@aasimazam Interest is a fantastic thing. It drives economic growth.
BS about global warming? You'd better hope it's BS. It's gonna hit the poor the hardest.
What other BS are you going to spew?
Btw: wealth is decentralizing. Capitalism is spreading, and the poor are getting jobs, factories, middle classes. Look at China. Their growth is helping others grow.
What other lies have you got?
meaninter03 2 days ago
@meaninter03 do you hear yourself? Interest is ALL about the centralisation of wealth. Capitalism is a false idea and it does no one except the person(s) at the top good. The rest maybe employed but the majority must live hand to mouth. Most "employment" in the third world is exploitation anyway by western corporations. etc etc ... this is getting boring.
aasimazam 2 days ago
@aasimazam At least in my country most employment (80%) is based on small and medium local enterprises, and not on Western corporations, and the remaining 20% is a mix of local and foreign investment. Other countries get more foreign investment, but very few actually want to get rid of it. Ask the Chinese whether they want foreign investment to leave them, they'll murder you. They've done everything they can to attract it.
CoonAndFriends2 2 days ago
@aasimazam You are one delusional piece of work, you know that? All you are doing is presenting problems (some of which are completly irrelevant and are hardly problems) and providing no solutions to them what-so-ever! China's growth is helping others grow? WTF is wrong with you CHINA doesn't even want to grow, their very society is headed for colapse, didn't you take a fricken biology class and learn about population growth? Firstly what is your ...And shit i ran out of characters...
MrSteakable 1 day ago
@MrSteakable why are you saying this to me? I didn't say anything about China.
aasimazam 1 day ago
@aasimazam "disease doesn't exist?" Well looks like someone needs to improve reading comprehension. There are many diseases that have been erradicated over the years, or rendered practically harmless, and not just in Europe and North America. Average life expectancy has increased EVERYWHERE in the last century, and not just for the wealthy. Looking at the past you'll only find more misery, ignorance and bigotry, regardless of which part of the world you are looking at.
CoonAndFriends2 2 days ago
@CoonAndFriends2 take off the rose tinted glasses.
aasimazam 2 days ago
@aasimazam No rose tinted glasses, just plain facts. You must believe developed countries treat their sick with voodoo - being from a thirld world country myself (Bolivia), let me tell you that we would have it a lot harder if we would cling to superstition as a substitute for Western science. Does the world still have wars, poverty and sickness? Sure, but it comes nowhere close to what it was a century ago.
CoonAndFriends2 2 days ago
@CoonAndFriends2 I'm not advocating that vodoo magic be a substitute and I did not deny that there were advancements, there is still incurable diseases in the world, cancer is just one example, I could mention many like arthiritis, diabetes, etc that are not cured, rather relieved. My point was the imbalance because to have those advancements you need make sure the people on top are making a profit.
aasimazam 2 days ago
@aasimazam So basically you are criticizing the video for not being about the topic you are interested about, namely economic inequality. You then made a vague point about the need to "decentralize wealth", without precising how this should be done and whether it is possible to maintain scientific progress (whose importance I'm not sure you fully appreciate) without an incentive structure that relies on self-interest. I get the feeling you are only commenting to be provocative.
CoonAndFriends2 2 days ago
@CoonAndFriends2 Actually its linked, my argument was, what is to blame, maybe I should have came across clearer. There isn't enough space in these boxes to get a point a across and spanning across three or four comments is really distracting.
Basically the video is faulting God and religion for apparently not doing anything about the ailments of the world. By extension the very people laying blame out their trust in scientific knowledge which isn't much different in principle to religion.
aasimazam 1 day ago
@aasimazam Apparently you've missed the point of the video. No atheist really blames God for anything, since atheists don't believe God exists. What the author of the video is arguing is that if the Christian all-knowing all-loving God would exist, instead of giving a set of apalling commandments he would give scientific knowledge to help people overcome many of the treatable diseases of that time. Religion has historically been an obstacle to the attainment of such knowledge.
CoonAndFriends2 1 day ago
@aasimazam Your assertion that scientific knowledge isn't different in principle to religion is just plain wrong. Science isn't a basis for morality, it doesn't serve a moral purpose and scientists don't pretend it does. It is the people that make use of it that make moral and immoral decisions, and they do so without resort to science. Religion, by contrast, carries the pretense of setting guidelines for moral decision-making, which is what is being criticized in this video.
CoonAndFriends2 1 day ago
@aasimazam Lastly, you repeat once again your argument that the evil in the world is caused by the imbalance of wealth. Even if, for the sake of argument, we would accept this argument as true, you haven't fleshed out an alternative to capitalism or a mixed economy. You are just blaming science for something it doesn't pretend to resolve (i.e. bad morals, imbalance of wealth), and capitalism for not achieving what no other system I know of can plausibly achieve.
CoonAndFriends2 1 day ago
@CoonAndFriends2 the reason for the and evil in the world isn't because some beardy man is telling me to kill everyone or starve whole countries through debt - the cause is the imbalance of wealth. But you won't understand this. Its the root of everything since the beginning of time, people only want power to gain wealth.
aasimazam 1 day ago
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paraplegicgiraffe 2 days ago
Thoughtful video - got to keep up the good fight against religion. Man with no superstitious belief in gods, ghosts, spirits or monsters is the next stage in his evolution.
smoothmicra 3 days ago 4
The angels in this video are very sympathetic creatures. :) They seem to have some good ideas.
0debug 4 days ago 2
this video is gold :) well done .
AkhmedTheGreat 6 days ago 2
NonStamp, what about Holy Trinity, the belief that God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are all separate beings?
MultiMooseProduction 1 week ago
@MultiMooseProduction Isn't that been put in place due to the council of Nikea and all other dissenters were sent to exile or worse? guess that's why so many gospels are missing
jasonliz000 3 days ago
Absolutely perfect.
DaToNyOyO 1 week ago
Ignorant atheists
jimphillips95 1 week ago
@jimphillips95 Ignorant TROLL
DaToNyOyO 1 week ago
@jimphillips95 Do you have a rational argument to back that statement up? Or are you just going to insult and run like a good Christian.
SuperBspb 4 days ago
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@jimphillips95 "Ignorant atheists"
Yes, I'm sure there were many factual errors in this video clip. In reality, it was WAY different when the Jesus plan was concocted. Since you are not ignorant (of course), you possess the true knowledge about how the Christian god really did his work. Please share your knowledge in the comments, so that we atheists will become less ignorant and more enlightened by the actual facts.
0debug 4 days ago
Slight problem: If you stopped Earth quakes and volcanoes, you'd cut off the carbon cycle which is needed to stabilize the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Other than that, great video.
dcarrera01 1 week ago
@dcarrera01 An omnipotent God could fix that without earthquakes.
Keitaro2011 1 week ago in playlist Logic & Reason
@Keitaro2011: Well, an omnipotent God can basically do magic, so yeah. But I thought it was an interesting point that you can't just turn off earthquakes and volcanoes without serious repercussions.
dcarrera01 1 week ago
@dcarrera01 Are you suggesting that GOD can't do whatever the fuck it wants? It invented this shit, right? So the natural laws you are quoting are an irrelevance.
DaToNyOyO 1 week ago 2
I never notice the whole Jesus stuff and crucifixion sounded so stuck up...
ufojoedude 2 weeks ago
Oh, so god is English?
badboy19971976 2 weeks ago in playlist NonStampCollector entire catalogue - in reverse order
@badboy19971976 No God is an Aussie
Salment 2 weeks ago
@Salment Understandable.
badboy19971976 2 weeks ago
@Salment how do you tell the difference? (no joke, just curious)
MockingVenus 1 week ago
@MockingVenus Because the guy who makes yhis vis has talked about being aussie
Salment 1 week ago
@badboy19971976 he's clearly Australian...
Pirate44444 1 week ago
judge that u dont understand, so smart
UqtQQBvD 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from NonStampCollector
@UqtQQBvD oh?
gphhawkins 2 weeks ago
Haha so funny when God tries to justify the old testament stuff by "cultural context"
chainedtotheworld 2 weeks ago 2
Dude, clearly God is real. He's just a total asshole. lulz.
HelFKiernan 2 weeks ago 2
"Well the ones that are correct are facts and the ones that aren't are just metaphor of course." - Haha brilliant :-)
carpy1970 2 weeks ago
I choked on popcorn laughing at this. Well done sir, well done!
TheOriginofStupidity 2 weeks ago
You know I've never really thought about this but now that you mention it it seems kind of obvious.
shreyapanda 3 weeks ago
Psh, it's okay. Actual lives and suffering don't matter. All Jesus cared about was getting 20% of mankind to go to heaven, while the other 80% or more would inevitably burn forever for being designed to use their free will to specifically reject him.
Ledwix 3 weeks ago 2
lols no saben subir videoss
waltertumaraxii 4 weeks ago
"Millions and millions of people are going to continue to starve to death throughout the rest of human history because, rather than do anything helpful about it, you'd prefer to go around spitting on disabled people."
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
i need to make 300 accounts so i can subscribe
Theoneandonly793 1 month ago
You're brilliant.
joethemoproductions 1 month ago
slavery still exists
stuttgurth 1 month ago
@stuttgurth yeah in every modern country
Zanazuah 1 month ago
i wish somebody would actually do the research to show which myths had things like virgin births and which did not. we can't keep perpetuating false claims
neomp5 1 month ago
(2) Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"
Imbalance15 1 month ago
@Imbalance15 I have no idea what you're trying to tell people with this, there's no context provided. Is it supposed to matter to anyone?
Aragashia 2 weeks ago
(1) moron people... READ THIS.!
John 2:13-17 (also Matthew 21:12-13, Mark 11:15-18, Luke 19:45-46)
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover,
Imbalance15 1 month ago
Angel: Why do u wanna help such a limited number of people in just one time and place when you can so easily give just a tiny piece of your infinite knowledge for them to pass on and build upon and help all of humanity" God: Look I know what your saying but i wanna keep up my mysterious image. It's much more mysterious to be able to end disease but choose not to".
WTF?!!??!
Fucking cunt, he won't share his scientific and medical knowledge?!?
jolohmm 1 month ago
This is one the smartest videos I've ever seen... THANK YOU 9GAG!!!!
Othrandor 1 month ago
Good video but you failed the easiest most easiest test that this whole "christian" idea the reason its been around "faith" not that I am relegious myself - just educated
Frank87368 1 month ago
One's life here on Earth is as insignificant as an eyeblink, however it does serve a purpose and that is to show God who will and who will not be spending eternity with Him.
theetrue 1 month ago
@theetrue Got any proof for that?
Stairc 1 month ago
@Stairc
God's Word says there will be no proof except being alive again after being dead.
theetrue 1 month ago
@theetrue In that case, how can you distinguish your belief from a delusion?
Stairc 1 month ago
@theetrue so god judge us by something so "insignificant as an eyeblink"? very fair, vary vary fair ¬¬
nachoijp 1 month ago
Fun video, but preposterous and full of falsifications and twisted truths!
vic7000 1 month ago
@vic7000 Such as?
Stairc 1 month ago
@vic7000 exactly how does that differ from the bible?...then it breaks down into the words vs words arguement
MarsStarcruiser 3 weeks ago
great vid :)
1031396 1 month ago
LOL, we need some angels like that as world leaders ;)
ledzeppize 1 month ago 13
Really overwelming :)
UltramanII 1 month ago
google toldot yeshu
google sandhren 106a
xanderkhaan1 2 months ago
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Great God Almighty sat on a wall
Great God Almighty had a long fall
All the crazy christians
And all the mad muslims
Couldn't put god together again.
Strangerinasland 2 months ago
i am a god fearing man but this was funny as hell
gilon1239 2 months ago
@gilon1239 Ur a child or retarded
Zanazuah 2 months ago
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@gilon1239 "i am a god fearing man but this was funny as hell"
It's nice that you take it that way. When something equivalent to this can be shown publicly in places like Pakistan, Indonesia, or Iran, with people laughing about it rather than yelling for the video creators to die, then humanity will have reached a reasonable level of tollerance and enlightenment. Let's hope it happens within our life time. (A worthwhile goal for anyone living in such parts of the world...)
0debug 4 days ago
I liked this whole video except for the part when they brought up the whole part of Females Being Equivalent to Males.
OneTheOnlyOne 2 months ago
@OneTheOnlyOne It's true tho according to God.
Zanazuah 2 months ago
@OneTheOnlyOne
He said equal not equivalent. May be differences between the genders, but that doesn't mean one gender should be treated inferior. He says we'd all be better off if there was less discrimination (i guess i can't talk for NSC) because societies with less of that tend to have better economies and social stuff.
unassumption 2 months ago
So, Jesus is cockney?
HelplessInOttawa 3 months ago
@HelplessInOttawa I though it was quite an obvious Australian accent.
lupa559 3 months ago
@lupa559 Or maybe from new zealand
lupa559 3 months ago
@lupa559 Fair enough, he's Australian?
HelplessInOttawa 3 months ago
why aren't there any muslims on here saying "the quran is full of scientific facts"?
blueray1969 3 months ago 3
and i think i just went atheist
007razzor 3 months ago 30
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im happy im not that into my religion
007razzor 3 months ago
God, the original troll.
Raford146 3 months ago 9
"uuuurgghh... Do something worthwhile and actually godlike!!" 7:36 LOOOL!!
skepticlogician 3 months ago 4
Now we know why Lucifer rebelled.
Winterwolf00 3 months ago 127
@Winterwolf00 He always was the clear hero of that story if you look at it from a narrative perspective.
VetinariClone 2 weeks ago
@VetinariClone Indeed.
Winterwolf00 2 weeks ago
JUST CLASSIC...LETS OPEN THE WORLD WIDE DEBATES !
bakersfieldmusicnow 3 months ago
do i sense mutiny? :P
rahulpower 3 months ago
Thanks for the vid NSC - used it on an Alpha course + it completely flawed the 2 Christians there lol. Just 1 rebuttal though - if Jesus cured all disease, surely we would blame him for creating it on the first place..?
tdp1909 3 months ago
yep...time to think.
well put...great choice of notes
bakersfieldmusicnow 3 months ago
1:43 - 1:51
I think my brain just exploded.
qualbert1 3 months ago
I never thought Christianity helped people at all, in fact, I thought it made the people of the time dumber.
QuestionRenee 3 months ago 77
@QuestionRenee
That's the case of medieval Europe. The Middle East was the scientific Mecca (for lack of a better term) because Islamic society allowed scientific study to be published and spread, surprisingly.
Mytholgylove 1 month ago
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"Odin promised the end of ice giants, Jesus promised the end of wickedness.
I don't see any Ice giants."
R18111983 3 months ago
Think people THINK! Quit fearing the use of your own brain!
dawnql 3 months ago
@dawnql - Titus is key to understanding Jesus.
Jesus predicts the next generation will see the destruction of Jerusalem. Titus fulfills this prophecy.
Jesus predicts that Simon will be killed and John will be spared. Titus kills a Simon in Rome and spares a John.
Weird right? Not really.
The Romans wrote the gospels, based parts of it Josephus' Jewish War (c 74 AD) and back-dated the story to a generation before.
Paul was written later and back-dated to before 70 AD.
Does that make sense?
Franknarfable 3 months ago
585 ass hurt Christians seen this video!
Whitevoice14 3 months ago
6:20 and on = insta-subscribbed!
Can you please counter this argument though?
"All the fathers of modern science were Bible-believers. All the advances in modern science and technology have occurred in Bible-based western civilization, especially Christian America. The inventor of the CAT scanner is an outspoken creationist. How many tech or science advancements have come out of secular societies like the USSR, Cuba, or N. Korea? "
Lishy1 3 months ago
@Lishy1 "All of the fathers of modern science were Bible-believers"... that's just a patently wrong statement. Google atheist inventors. You asked for a counter-argument, but I can't seem to find your argument... Maybe you are implying that the religion someone subscribes to when they discover or invent something is supposed to prove something about that religion? Note that over 80% of the people in prison are christian, what does that prove? :-)
ericderen 3 months ago
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@physicalgravy - you call yourself a Christian but this simple video shows why he wasn't from God. Even if God exists, I don't feel he would care about us enough to touch our little lives with any goodness. Why believe in such a person? You know science is correct, then what is God's role? As always, to fill in the details you don't know yet. Physicists are testing the hypothesis that empty space-time can create universes, it is the last nail in the coffin of a God-head creating anything.
GuruEvi 3 months ago
and then he sent them all to hell =]
runeflame16 3 months ago
when I watched this I though 8====D
Fuck Religion!
Fuck God!
Thanks for the video Religion is a joke!
LivingProof2012 3 months ago
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... Think we know why Lucifer left...
TheDarkKimKairo 3 months ago
I could do more but I like my mysterious image
MrEmeraldfusion 3 months ago
I'm Christian and I find this hilarious haha. I just never understood why atheists care so much about religion. If atheists are right, shouldn't they happy instead of being so pissed off about religion? Not that you are like that, I just know a few that are infuriated by it and it makes me scratch my head why they care so much. Again, this was hilarious.
physicalgravy 4 months ago
@physicalgravy religion is a big part of the world which unfortunately we have to share with you and you're beliefs have direct consequences in it. For example: gay rights, teaching creationism instead of evolution, genetic research. So why if we are right should we be happy? If we're right the world stinks, that's why we speak out against religion
wHisperis001 4 months ago
@wHisperis001 Actually I don't have a problem with gay people. I think it's gross and a fucked in their genetics but I don't think they are evil. Who am I to say how they should live or makes them happy? I think creationism is fucking retarded. Anyone who believes Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs is a moron. I think evolution is right and so is the big bang. Not all Christian believe the same stuff nor are they all completely insane. Don't forget, God isn't what's wrong with religion, it's people.
physicalgravy 4 months ago
@physicalgravy ah yes after all this youtube debates I sometimes forget people like you exist. Good to be remembered. I guess if everyone was like you we wouldn't have much to disagree on. I can imagine being in your shoes that atheism might look aggressive towards you but I guess you have to blame the fundamentalists on "your side" because they provoke us most of the time. Out fault is in grouping you together in one group
wHisperis001 4 months ago
@wHisperis001 our*
wHisperis001 4 months ago
@wHisperis001 Fundamentalists are insane. Believing every word of the bible is ridiculous. Whether or not it is the word of God, it was still put together by people and those people threw away quite a bit of text because they didn't agree with what was written.
physicalgravy 3 months ago
@physicalgravy "Don't forget, God isn't what's wrong with religion, it's people."
Unless god is just a fictional construct devised by people to tell themselves fairy tales to explain what they don't understand, in which case the reason the god of the Old Testament is such a twisted sadistic fuckwad is that he IS us......
So then the answer becomes what's wrong with god and religion is it's all made up bullshit used to excuse our own behavior.
Ever think of that? Didn't think so.
moopism 3 months ago
@physicalgravy "Actually I don't have a problem with gay people. I think it's gross and a fucked in their genetics but I don't think they are evil."
Well I have a problem with douchebags like you that think that's an acceptable thing to say about another human being.
moopism 3 months ago
@moopism such epic pwnage i rarely get to see. good on you mate.
werewolf873 3 months ago
@werewolf873 Called it like I saw it.
moopism 3 months ago
@physicalgravy We are not bit pissed about religion, and we are generally very happy with the absence of it. I know if says in that magical book to "Spread this truth" to everyone you come across, some of us just do not want to be bothered with it. So if you stop spreading your fantasy, we will stop bitching about it. Do not pray in our schools and we will not think in your church.
x0diak13 3 months ago 3
@physicalgravy "I just never understood why atheists care so much about religion."
Maybe it's because believers have this nasty habit of trying to wrest political control over their societies, establishing oppressive theocracies, and torturing those who disagree (see the inquisition, and the republican party).
The fact that you can't own up to that is either an indication of your immense duplicity or unbridled stupidity. Or both. At the tender age of 22, my vote goes to brainwashed and stupid.
moopism 3 months ago 3
People dont need to live longer in their evil state, they need to turn and connect to God and enjoy the life of God forever. All else is misery and emptiness. These vids are reasoning of evil, deceiving men to eternal death and separation from their creator.
j919or 4 months ago
God has great patience with the evil ppl of the world but they just keep getting worse and worse. God must display his wrath
1. As a warning of the eternal wrath to come
2. To protect the righteous
3. To hinder the spread of evil
j919or 4 months ago
"Well suit yourself with that Lord, but listen..."
haha
NigNogPoIice 4 months ago
what about free will - is this what Wittgenstein meant by Langauge Games? Of course it is
philosophyteacher 4 months ago
look their face xDDDDD
oOoOIslamOoOo 4 months ago
xDDD This is great yet so simple xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
oOoOIslamOoOo 4 months ago
This is genius.
Lobsterboyman 4 months ago
What you are missing: You are saying that God/Jesus (not the same BTW) should have just fixed things. Well if that would've happened we would have just screwed them up again ! We need to actually change for things to change. All misery in the world is a reflection of our soul condition & if we all chose Love 24/7 then the world would change. But we don't do we ? God's Laws are perfect & this world & its suffering reflects our choices
MrZapatista44 4 months ago
@MrZapatista44 God's Laws are not perfect. Example: Executing people because they work on a Sunday is not a perfect law. But, I agree with you when you imply that WE need to make the world better and not wait for a deity to do so. Cheers!
davidmerriss 4 months ago
@davidmerriss Tht isn't one of God's Laws but one of mans ... the bible is bullshit & no i am not christian .. i loathe religion ... but i don't allow religion to own god ... that would be silly ... we don't even respect religion ... Stop trying to define God & allow God to define herself to you ...
MrZapatista44 3 months ago
@MrZapatista44 "You are saying that God/Jesus (not the same BTW)"
according to the bible they are, havent you read it?
" God's Laws are perfect"
let the stoning begin! wooo!
OmfgItsHenu 4 months ago
@OmfgItsHenu the bible is a joke & was not written by God ... obviously ...
MrZapatista44 3 months ago
@MrZapatista44 theres a thread to promote christianity, this is not that one
momentumbbv 4 months ago
@momentumbbv God does not equal christianity ... i am not a christian ... we need to divorce God from religion & Jesus from Christianity ...
MrZapatista44 3 months ago
@MrZapatista44 shut the fuck up u stupid christian....
get over that book of lies u call the "holy" bible, watch the other videos if u still think the bible is legit. if u still believe in it after that then there is no hoe for u.....
PBP113 4 months ago
@PBP113 again i am not a christian & i agree the bible is silly ... but why let religion define God for you ? Why not investigate for yourself ..??
MrZapatista44 3 months ago
Genius! I've watched almost all your videos now and this may be my favorite! I'll be using this video to help enlighten others to bring them out of their fear based life. Thank you for sharing your vast bible knowledge and taking the time to create these videos!
BryanKalentek 4 months ago
so thats why satan was kicked out of heaven
happychick1973 4 months ago
Poor angels they had such good ideals
Man4Goodwill 4 months ago
Blasphemous !!!BASTARDS!!! THIS NEVER HAPPENED.. I NEVER MET WITH MY ANGELS TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS ISSUE,,, SHAME ON YOU NONSTAMPCOLLECTOR.. I WILL SEE YOU SOON IN HEAVEN,,,
communistjesus 4 months ago
It would have been a lot better if you had taken the time to think about the glaring scholarly errors you were making for the sake of your propaganda. Unfortunately, you end up being no better than those you criticize and the whole thing is just another dirty joke which George Carlin did better a long time ago. Sorry.
OldLeftie 4 months ago
I think I love you.
You put everything I need to say into a simplistic video which ridicules and simplifies all my points, so I don't have to!
:3
iMaLiLfIsHBC13 4 months ago
Fabulous and funny.
qwondoflex 4 months ago
Wonderful !
qwondoflex 4 months ago
I don't believe the Bible too. For us, who don't simple believe in anything some people tell us, there are only two outputs: being an atheist (which I personally consider the easiest and pleasant way) or searching for an even more incovenient "true" (I'm using it in q. marks since noone of us know the real truth). I'm talking about spiritism/kardecism. Sounds like a propaganda, but if I were you, I would search (and read) for this before getting any conclusion. Its science, philosophy, religion.
crieiessacontaagora 4 months ago
YOU.... ARE.... AWSOME!!! this is soo clever and soo true
shelzytown6 4 months ago
I guess you are a pretty hardcore atheist
ReddoFreddo 4 months ago
@ReddoFreddo True, I am. But I'm a harder-core a-leprechaun-ist.
NonStampCollector 4 months ago 50
@NonStampCollector XD
ArtistryofDebauchery 4 months ago
@NonStampCollector And that is? If I may ask?
And btw, the bible is written 500 years after Jesus's death by monks who are not allowed to have sex for a life time. Its not written by God or Jesus so the idea of a God and Jesus isnt that bad if you ask me
ReddoFreddo 4 months ago
@ReddoFreddo If you discount what the Bible says because of when and by whom it was written, where do you get the idea of Jesus from?
noforbiddenquestions 4 months ago
@noforbiddenquestions jesuswas a nice guy, such a nice guy that everyone believed what he said and told stories about him those stories came in the bible, and thats it. And it doesnt metter if God makes us suffer cause if we live good we'll end up in heaven dont we? better a suffering cristian than a suffering atheist! (im not even cristian btw o_O)
ReddoFreddo 4 months ago
@ReddoFreddo I've read the Bible, and I don't think Jesus was such a nice guy. According to what the Bible says, he made his message hard to understand (with parables) so that people couldn't figure it out and wouldn't be saved. He obliterated a fig tree because he wanted figs and it wasn't fig season. For all his supposed message of love and tolerance, he was derisive of people different from him (Samaritans, Greeks, Pharisees). He made promises about prayer that we can see simply aren't true.
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