Did they SERIOUSLY just drop an f-bomb on a christian raidio broadcast?!? (time; 1:06:34) That's terrible! We're supposed to be examples! This is one channle I'd encourage everyone to avoid.
What's his problem with Kathryn Scott lol? Or does he have this thing for taking the first stanza of a worship song and making fun of the whole song because of it? The Kung Fu Panda guy was hilarious though. What's next? "I went to pour myself some cereal this morning and a box of cereal fell out of the cabinet and smacked me in the head. I think there was a message from God in there somewhere." Yet another effect of mixing scripture with human experience.
I just wanted to make a comment on the statement (you guys made for emphasis) that this "sermon" wasn't for kids, but adults, AS IF THIS SERMON WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCEPTABLE EVEN FOR CHILDREN! The children in our church are learning scripture, the 'Lord's prayer', the 'armor of God', 'apostles creed', children's version of the Westminster Shorter Catechism... and why did you guys continue to refer to him as a pastor--he defiles the office/calling; you guys were to kind.
Hey brothers, I got to admit, this was so ridiculous that it did make me laugh, but this is sad and scary. People are trusting their eternal souls to this charlatan. This is an abomination and perversion of the glorious gospel. Its always encouraging to see fellow brothers contending for the faith. Keep exposing this nonsense to the glory of God and the good of the church.
This is so entertaining. Is it bad that im entertained by heritics Lane? One of my favorite shows to watch is TBNs praise-a-thon. I like to see more of this stuff. Could you believe people actually try to defend this stuff.
I remember when I was in high school driving in a truck with a friend. We ended up getting in a small wreck but it was bad enough that he got a little bloody. My response and my friend's at the time? We laughed. Was it because it was funny? No. It was because it was such a serious situation and nervously that was our first reaction to it. I felt much the same way doing this episode. The "sermon" was a wreck.
Regardless of what Chris said, I don't think it makes that someone who has no seminary degree and yet is in ministry should criticize another person for being in ministry without credentials. If the criticism is that Joel Osteen has not shown himself approved to interpret the Scriptures, Chris should stick to that point.
I finally got to the critique of the sermon and could see what it was boiling down to - criticism and laughter at every sentence. This, in my view, is definitely not a loving or Christian approach to take toward a man that, whether you agree with everything he says or not, God has given a pastoral position and the authority that goes with it. Saul was by no means a perfect king. In fact, the Bible explicitly says God had rejected him and chosen David instead - yet David respected him.
Read Matthew 23 and let me know your critiques of Jesus's "loving approach." Read Galatians 2 where Paul withstood Peter to his face, and let me know of Paul's "loving approach" there as well. Please don't give us this nonsense. Your "loving approach" religion is far different than Christianity as it's defined in the Bible.
Also, how do you know that God has given him a pastoral position? Is it because he says so? Keep in mind that Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons also believe they've been given a pastoral position. What evidence do you have that you can share with the group that God gave this person a pastoral position other than he's claiming to be one and operating as such?
You first have to do the work of equating Paul Worth with JW and Mormonism before treating him as a cult.
In researching his "30-day sex challenge", I agree this guy is highly questionable since he called on singles to abstain from sex for 30 days - which implies it's okay after 30 days! But when you pick on him for every little word he says, you are forfeiting the larger and more important points you could have made. You come across as judgmental long before you come to any real heresy.
Pray tell what you've written. It really seems like something you should have gone over before devouring the guy like hungry wolves. I don't think you're wolves in the sense of false prophets but just in terms of pure vitriol.
What's ironic about your comment here is that you say that one shouldn't criticize another for being in ministry without credentials yet you criticize me and and I have no credentials.
"What's ironic about your comment here is that you say that one shouldn't criticize another for being in ministry without credentials yet you criticize me and and I have no credentials."
This is one of the worst attempts at logic I have seen in my life. I never said that having no credentials should not exempt a person from criticism.
You now: "I never said that having no credentials should not exempt a person from criticism."
You before: "I don't think it makes (sense) that someone who has no seminary degree and yet is in ministry should criticize another for being in ministry without credentials."
Please explain this and show how this is "one of the worst attempts at logic you have seen in your life." I'd like to see how "lived" you are. Thanks.
Apparently you chose to delete my correction in which I stated, "I never said that having no credentials should exempt a person from criticism."
If you still cannot understand my logic, I suggest you sleep on it. If, after that, you still can't understand it, use your "phone a friend" option. If you choose to delete this comment as well, that will tell me volumes about your own integrity, or should I say lack thereof.
I deleted nothing. I'm blocking you now, though. You can read why on my commenting policy. When you make an assertion in the future, be sure you're courageous enough to back it up and not merely give pure pejorative rhetoric. Then perhaps this won't happen again elsewhere.
If you listen to this again, you'll see that Rosebrough does not say that a doctorate is required only that it is desired. There's a big difference there. He says that we need to prove that we can handle the Word of God correctly and a great way of this is being trained and proving ourselves through a seminary setting. He's not saying that unless you go to a seminary then you can preach the Word then and only then. (cont...)
In fact, if you listen at 13:00 , Chris Rosebrough says, "If someone has a seminary degree, it doesn't give them carte blanche authority... the question is "can they rightly divide the Word of truth?" That's the qualification.: If someone has the gift of teaching and if they can rightly divide the Word of truth?"
That's a "little" different than saying that a college degree is required.
This...was...hysterical! Mystery Sermon Theater 3000! Haha! "The Halloween costume for CEO from Chrysler." Awesome! I think this type of humor exposes the silliness of sermons like these. These pastors might benefit from this type of rebuke rather than the over the top harsh ones you usually see. They might listen and think "Man, that was silly. Maybe I should just preach the word." We can only hope.
oh my, i can not believe my ears. i feel for those people listening every sunday. this guy is leading them straight to hell. there are too many churches like this and real truth must be taught.
That was one of the most blasphemous/heretical things that I have ever heard. It's difficult to laugh when you think of the fate of those who actually attend this kind of "church" and think it's truth that they are hearing, not to mention that probably most of them think they are saved.
"eyeopenerQ2", sir, I would reply to what you've written but I have not a clue what you've said. I can get around your spelling mistakes, but please use complete sentences in the future. Thanks.
1:13:25 & following: Jewish boys during and prior to Jesus' time memorized what we know today as the Old Testament and actually DID purpose to become Rabbis. If they were good enough, a Rabbi would call them to follow and teach them until they became Rabbis themselves. Yeah this "sermon" sucks but it's REALLY annoying when you guys butt in every 8 seconds instead of letting us listen for ourselves. I want you to review a sermon from Dr. Tony Evans of Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship.
review is longer than the movie @_@ did anyone watch it completely ?
PrashantSinghs 5 months ago
is it me or is this over 2 hours?
walnutgrove221 8 months ago
Did they SERIOUSLY just drop an f-bomb on a christian raidio broadcast?!? (time; 1:06:34) That's terrible! We're supposed to be examples! This is one channle I'd encourage everyone to avoid.
fishyfacedgurl16 1 year ago
Worst. Sermon. Ever.
newbirth35 1 year ago
What's his problem with Kathryn Scott lol? Or does he have this thing for taking the first stanza of a worship song and making fun of the whole song because of it? The Kung Fu Panda guy was hilarious though. What's next? "I went to pour myself some cereal this morning and a box of cereal fell out of the cabinet and smacked me in the head. I think there was a message from God in there somewhere." Yet another effect of mixing scripture with human experience.
MultimediaJay 2 years ago
by about 1:44:00 I was litterally lol.
It really is quite sad but it is comical too. Thi is a disgrace to preaching the Gospel!
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago 2
this is pretty aweful.
bmd200 2 years ago
I just wanted to make a comment on the statement (you guys made for emphasis) that this "sermon" wasn't for kids, but adults, AS IF THIS SERMON WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCEPTABLE EVEN FOR CHILDREN! The children in our church are learning scripture, the 'Lord's prayer', the 'armor of God', 'apostles creed', children's version of the Westminster Shorter Catechism... and why did you guys continue to refer to him as a pastor--he defiles the office/calling; you guys were to kind.
Contending 4 the Faith
storpas 2 years ago
Hey brothers, I got to admit, this was so ridiculous that it did make me laugh, but this is sad and scary. People are trusting their eternal souls to this charlatan. This is an abomination and perversion of the glorious gospel. Its always encouraging to see fellow brothers contending for the faith. Keep exposing this nonsense to the glory of God and the good of the church.
Soli Deo Gloria -
storpas 2 years ago
This is so entertaining. Is it bad that im entertained by heritics Lane? One of my favorite shows to watch is TBNs praise-a-thon. I like to see more of this stuff. Could you believe people actually try to defend this stuff.
ttnsam 2 years ago
God take unlike to be heroes and turn them in greater heroes
solartiger346 2 years ago
That is some of the most vomit-inducing stuff I have ever heard. I am literally sick to my stomach. This is so irrelevant it hurts.
GPLeague 2 years ago
I remember when I was in high school driving in a truck with a friend. We ended up getting in a small wreck but it was bad enough that he got a little bloody. My response and my friend's at the time? We laughed. Was it because it was funny? No. It was because it was such a serious situation and nervously that was our first reaction to it. I felt much the same way doing this episode. The "sermon" was a wreck.
LaneCh 2 years ago
Regardless of what Chris said, I don't think it makes that someone who has no seminary degree and yet is in ministry should criticize another person for being in ministry without credentials. If the criticism is that Joel Osteen has not shown himself approved to interpret the Scriptures, Chris should stick to that point.
mayartay 2 years ago
I finally got to the critique of the sermon and could see what it was boiling down to - criticism and laughter at every sentence. This, in my view, is definitely not a loving or Christian approach to take toward a man that, whether you agree with everything he says or not, God has given a pastoral position and the authority that goes with it. Saul was by no means a perfect king. In fact, the Bible explicitly says God had rejected him and chosen David instead - yet David respected him.
mayartay 2 years ago
Read Matthew 23 and let me know your critiques of Jesus's "loving approach." Read Galatians 2 where Paul withstood Peter to his face, and let me know of Paul's "loving approach" there as well. Please don't give us this nonsense. Your "loving approach" religion is far different than Christianity as it's defined in the Bible.
LaneCh 2 years ago
Also, how do you know that God has given him a pastoral position? Is it because he says so? Keep in mind that Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons also believe they've been given a pastoral position. What evidence do you have that you can share with the group that God gave this person a pastoral position other than he's claiming to be one and operating as such?
LaneCh 2 years ago
You first have to do the work of equating Paul Worth with JW and Mormonism before treating him as a cult.
In researching his "30-day sex challenge", I agree this guy is highly questionable since he called on singles to abstain from sex for 30 days - which implies it's okay after 30 days! But when you pick on him for every little word he says, you are forfeiting the larger and more important points you could have made. You come across as judgmental long before you come to any real heresy.
mayartay 2 years ago
We have done the work of equating the two. You just aren't informed and haven't researched what we've written. Your ignorance is not our fault.
LaneCh 2 years ago
Pray tell what you've written. It really seems like something you should have gone over before devouring the guy like hungry wolves. I don't think you're wolves in the sense of false prophets but just in terms of pure vitriol.
mayartay 2 years ago
What's ironic about your comment here is that you say that one shouldn't criticize another for being in ministry without credentials yet you criticize me and and I have no credentials.
Not very consistent, are we? :)
LaneCh 2 years ago
"What's ironic about your comment here is that you say that one shouldn't criticize another for being in ministry without credentials yet you criticize me and and I have no credentials."
This is one of the worst attempts at logic I have seen in my life. I never said that having no credentials should not exempt a person from criticism.
mayartay 2 years ago
You now: "I never said that having no credentials should not exempt a person from criticism."
You before: "I don't think it makes (sense) that someone who has no seminary degree and yet is in ministry should criticize another for being in ministry without credentials."
Please explain this and show how this is "one of the worst attempts at logic you have seen in your life." I'd like to see how "lived" you are. Thanks.
LaneCh 2 years ago
Apparently you chose to delete my correction in which I stated, "I never said that having no credentials should exempt a person from criticism."
If you still cannot understand my logic, I suggest you sleep on it. If, after that, you still can't understand it, use your "phone a friend" option. If you choose to delete this comment as well, that will tell me volumes about your own integrity, or should I say lack thereof.
mayartay 2 years ago
I deleted nothing. I'm blocking you now, though. You can read why on my commenting policy. When you make an assertion in the future, be sure you're courageous enough to back it up and not merely give pure pejorative rhetoric. Then perhaps this won't happen again elsewhere.
LaneCh 2 years ago
hey lane that may have been the pastor from that sermon. thats why he was so angry.
ttnsam 2 years ago
As far as pastoral qualification goes... CJ Mahaney does not have any college degrees however his teaching is solid. What about A.W. Tozer or Moody?
Your doctor metaphor doesn't really work.
brenden7 2 years ago
If you listen to this again, you'll see that Rosebrough does not say that a doctorate is required only that it is desired. There's a big difference there. He says that we need to prove that we can handle the Word of God correctly and a great way of this is being trained and proving ourselves through a seminary setting. He's not saying that unless you go to a seminary then you can preach the Word then and only then. (cont...)
LaneCh 2 years ago
In fact, if you listen at 13:00 , Chris Rosebrough says, "If someone has a seminary degree, it doesn't give them carte blanche authority... the question is "can they rightly divide the Word of truth?" That's the qualification.: If someone has the gift of teaching and if they can rightly divide the Word of truth?"
That's a "little" different than saying that a college degree is required.
LaneCh 2 years ago
It is like watching a b-movie: Sermon 9 From Everywhere Else But The Bible.
deejaySpirit 2 years ago
haha..yeah! haha.
drefner 2 years ago
This...was...hysterical! Mystery Sermon Theater 3000! Haha! "The Halloween costume for CEO from Chrysler." Awesome! I think this type of humor exposes the silliness of sermons like these. These pastors might benefit from this type of rebuke rather than the over the top harsh ones you usually see. They might listen and think "Man, that was silly. Maybe I should just preach the word." We can only hope.
drefner 2 years ago
oh my, i can not believe my ears. i feel for those people listening every sunday. this guy is leading them straight to hell. there are too many churches like this and real truth must be taught.
erinm4jc 2 years ago
HUH! :/
1apadilla 2 years ago
That was one of the most blasphemous/heretical things that I have ever heard. It's difficult to laugh when you think of the fate of those who actually attend this kind of "church" and think it's truth that they are hearing, not to mention that probably most of them think they are saved.
S7VIIN 2 years ago
Wow, that's even worse than the therapeutical sermon on Justification I heard last Reformation Day -- and that one was baaaaaaaaaaaad!
At least it's involuntarily humoristic ... :-)
TimotheosCauvin 2 years ago 2
Wow, after listening to this guy preach, I think I need to go under a peach tree, and self medicate my self, LOL.
Take it easy.
unpicked1 2 years ago 4
2 hours...holy cow.
AnthonyNpplboy 2 years ago 2
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well that was a waste of time
you all just beleave in a lie and liveing a lie and how and why next page
eyeopenerQ2 2 years ago
if i beleave a lie and if i am liveing a lie and how and why next page ...then you can spell
ihaveaverybadcold 2 years ago
"eyeopenerQ2", sir, I would reply to what you've written but I have not a clue what you've said. I can get around your spelling mistakes, but please use complete sentences in the future. Thanks.
LaneCh 2 years ago
Wow that's totally relevant. I can totally understand the gospel now that he brought it down to my level with kung fu panda
700bees 2 years ago 8
lol
LaneCh 2 years ago
HAHAHA
seanpaynedotnet 2 years ago
Lol. "Lane is about 9ft 7".
JeffTheDude777 2 years ago
BTW... (1:55:46) There is no Matthew 6 v.35
Kevbox2008 2 years ago
I know lol
ephr123 2 years ago
1:13:25 & following: Jewish boys during and prior to Jesus' time memorized what we know today as the Old Testament and actually DID purpose to become Rabbis. If they were good enough, a Rabbi would call them to follow and teach them until they became Rabbis themselves. Yeah this "sermon" sucks but it's REALLY annoying when you guys butt in every 8 seconds instead of letting us listen for ourselves. I want you to review a sermon from Dr. Tony Evans of Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship.
Kevbox2008 2 years ago
That was painful.
403399531 2 years ago
first view... woohoo
got2liv4him 2 years ago