Babaji

[icebreaker09video]

please see YOUTUBE:ICEBREAKER"Breakdown"

[playcard120]

"Those who hate me, they love me unknowingly, and those who love me publicly, they doubt me personally"

[pickks4fship]

guruve saranam

[zzinglish53]

A thousand Christs sent to earth would not redeem its people unless they themselves become Christlike by purifying and expanding their individual consciousness to receive therein the second coming of the Christ Consciousness, as was manifested in Jesus....Contact with this Consciousness, experienced in the ever new joy of meditation, will be the real second coming of Christ — and it will take place right in the devotee's own consciousness." —Paramahansa Yogananda

[ANDROID697]

Spot on. I'm in the process of reading Paramahansa Yogananda - Autobiography of a yogi. It's a rare gem.

[ANDROID697]

Many thanks for the link. :)

[angela42809]

the truth about haidakhan baba and haidakhan ashram

[haidakhan baba and haidakhan is fake please be aware of such businass]

HAIDAKHAN baba left his boby 25year's ago now. now everry one is doing their business on behalf of mahavatar baba of the sake of their profit.

[nyclear]

@zzinglish53 There is no redemption necessary for we are already That.

[zzinglish53]

Apologist:

The "right," more so the obligation to interpret comes with ownership of a mind, "oh brother." Seems you want it both ways. You can crudely interpret & even demonize Hindu tenets but others are not allowed to think/comment re: Christian ones. Thought Police? Also, U never replied to my ? down this thread: Has God made this world where only 1 in 10 has a "worthwhile" soul?

[babajisaipathudu11]

Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah! Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah! Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah! Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah! Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah! Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah! Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah! Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah! Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah! Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah! Om Mahavatar Kriya Babaji namah!

[zzinglish53]

Those with opinions will annoy each other endlessly.

The Ocean refuses no river.

[Apologist117]

Babaji was a demonized man and suffered from spiritual delusion (prelest). People who follow teachers like him are still in their ABC's of spiritual awareness and consciousness, and lack spiritual maturity and discernment. Babaji's teachings appeal to their lower carnal nature of a person because there is no stress on moral and spiritual perfection and separation from the world of the passions and carnal appetites. But there is no truth in him.

[dre1008]

Its actually the opposite. The whole point of yoga pranayama and meditation is to withdraw the life energy from the lower spinal plexuses where it feeds lust and the lower nature, into the higher centers where spiritual illumination and the actual perception of God's Spirit occurs. This is spoken of in Revelations as the mystery of the seven stars and seven candlesticks.

[Greentipman]

Unfortunately many false teachings have come out of India. It is Impossible to link Christianity with Yoga, Hindu, shiks, ect ect.

there is One God, One Truth. If you Truly belong to Christ you will hear his voice and go to him. The Saviour of all who follow him.

[dre1008]

Actually Christianity and Sanatana Dharma (the truth at the heart of Hinduism) are inseperably linked because they expresss the same universal religious principles of loving one's fellow human beings and seeking God through prayer and contemplation. Its more a question of whether you follow Christ or the Church's version of Him.

[Greentipman]

Im sorry i was not aware that Hindus are Baptised, par-take of the Eucharist and follow Jesus Christ only.

[dre1008]

Hinduism accepts all true religions because God is one and can be found in them all. Its a narrow dogma that crept into the Church's teaching that only Jesus is the way and that none others are Christs. Krishna was a Christ as well. It means being one with the Spirit of God present in all creation (ie; omnipresent). Real baptism is to be born again of the spirit which you perceive in prayer and meditation. The outward ritual of baptism in water is only a symbollic gesture, not the real thing.

[dre1008]

Likewise the Eucharist is symbollic of something deeper. Christ's flesh and blood really mean the presence of his Spirit in all matter and space. Flesh symbolizes matter (the whole universal structure as being his body), blood symbolizes life energy, the prana/chi or ki underlying all physical manifestation (aka God's Spirit as Holy Ghost or Aum vibration). So anyone who meditates and merges with the Holy Ghost that is revealed within is truly baptized. Mere Church baptism is a ritual thing.

[dre1008]

Did you know the Church changed some of its doctrines following the second council of Constantinople? Up till then it taught reincarnation (there are even hints at it in the Bible), but fearing people wouldnt strive for spiritual discipline and devotion and that they wouldnt donate monies to the Church, it revised this teaching and erased it from its doctrine. Original Christianity has more in common with Hinduism that you could possibly imagine.

[zzinglish53]

"Outside the Orthodox Church there is no Christianity ~ there is no cure for the soul. "

Apol117

So it's your conviction that 7Bil - .7Bil = 6.3Bil souls are just hopeless, superfluous waste with their noses to the glass gazing longingly at the chosen few-you. Sounds egoic & elitist.; my way or the highway.

Would a loving God tolerate this for 90% of his children? Truth is all souls are of God & destined to return Home.

Pay more heed to dre1008. Hindu truth began before the tree branched.

[zzinglish53]

"There is only one Religion, the Religion of Love.

There is only one caste, the caste of Humanity.

There is only one language, the language of the Heart.

There is only one God, and He is omnipresent."

[Apologist117]

Satan appears as an angel of light and love. But he always wants to compromise the truth. The statement "there is only one religion, the religion of love," is not from God. It's a man-made tenant and has no divine authority or truth.

[dre1008]

says you. the idea that Christianity is the only place to find eternal truth about God is what is a man-made idea, and it is propagated by the authority of men only. the false prophets Christ talked about in the Bible who he said would come in his name in future are all the corrupt, greedy and licensious preachers and priests that come in the guise of ministers of the Church.

[Apologist117]

The problem isn't with God. The problem is with the people. They hate God. You can't see the true nature of people as God does. But there is a baptism of desire. People who are serious about God can find grace. Hindusim lacks divine authority and is not from God. It's purely man-made. Their views of the universe have also been proven wrong. The Bible teaches that we are not all children of God. Christ taught that many are the children of the Devil and most are lost.

[dre1008]

wrong again. read something like The Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra. discoveries in physics are proving more and more the ancient Hindu edict that consciousness and energy permeate every particle of creation and that man himself is not separate from the transcendent reality at the core of existence. God is so much more than this narrow Christian paradigm of a separate entity sitting out there somewhere. He exists within us and can be realized through meditation.

[Apologist117]

To identify God with the creation, is to confuse the Creator-Creation distinction that we find in all pseudo religions. It places God at the top of the contingent scale of being, but not above the contingent scale --as Christianity does. In other words, your view of God is too low. Second, modern cosmology has confirmed that the universe came into existence (commonly called, Big Bang). This fact completely refutes the old Hindu view of an infinite and eternal unviverse.

[dre1008]

they dont "identify" God with the creation only. God the Father is the eternal Spirit of God ever beyond creation - the Absolute, beginningless, causeless Spirit. God the Son is His reflection, present in all creation and Holy Ghost or Word (Aum/Amen) is His vibratory presence manifesting as all forms and creation itself.

[dre1008]

Modern cosmolgy is actually in league with Vedic thought in many ways. The Big Bang and billions of years of creation they refer to as the Day of God and the period when creation withdraws back into His Absolute being is referred to as the Night of God. The infinite and eternal universe/creation is a recurrent event said to also be eternal because even when its not present during the Night of God, it nevertheless exists in seed or potential form within Him.

[dre1008]

Christ did not teach that. He taught all are the children of God, including the prodigal sons. You spew all this nonsense and claim you follow Christ but you dont even know his message. what a travesty.

[Apologist117]

Christ specifically referred to many of the Jews (pharisees) to be children of the devil. A person cannot be a child of God and a child of the devil at the same time.

[dre1008]

where does he say this?

[Greentipman]

C'mon dre, surly your not going to lead me down the path of edited and false Bible? how can you assure me that the Vedas arnt corrupted?

I know one thing for sure a Man soul is made in Gods image. Man soul can't come back as a dog,horse or even cow. This is false and its roots are of demonic origin. There is One God , One Truth.

[dre1008]

God is present in every particle of matter, theres nothing outside of Him. The distinction between inert matter, plants, animals, man and angels isnt one of kind, but of degree. Its the same Spirit of God being individualized in the form of mineral, vegetable, animal, human and divine kingdoms. In the Vedas this is known as the Koshas or 'sheaths' covering the Supreme Spirit. The Church used to teach reincarnation before they took it out. Research it yourself. Christ refers to it in the Bible.

[dre1008]

1 Corinthians (44, 45, 46, 47)

Jesus was Elias (Elisha) in his life prior to Jesus. He says so in the Bible:

Mark ch 9, (11,12,13)

Matthew ch 17 (10, 11, 12, 13)

[dre1008]

Humans and the next higher kingdom, the Angels are naturally closer to expressing God (being His reflection, ie; the individualized manifestation of His Spirit) than the 'lower' kingdoms because less of the 5 sheaths are present. When man casts off the human sheath he evolves to the Angelic plane and beyond that he becomes fully liberated ("saved") in God - that is, he reidentifies his being with that of the Creator. That is a Christ and that is what we are all destined to become

[dre1008]

"Know ye not that ye are gods?" - Jesus

[ANDROID697]

Jyotish astrology is among the oldest and most accurate, India are the founders of the Zero. The VEDAS contain spiritual truth,science math and psychology and come from God himself (krsna)brahma 5000yrs ago. The bible is EDITED. Also the Romans never had a Zero and viewed the world as flat, Thought the Earth the centre of the universe. doh!!

baptism is from India also! The Ganges! You're a false speaker and the Bible warns us about demons like you.

[Apologist117]

If you don't believe the Bible is divine, why do you even care and make the argument that it is edited? The original is just as false as the later, right? The Bible has NOT been edited! You pagans and atheists repeat these lies like mantras. There is NO evidence it has been edited. I have studied this, you haven't. There is no manuscript or archaeological evidence it was edited. Read "A General Introduction to the Bible," by Geisler and Nix. And the Bible IS the center of the universe.

[ANDROID697]

Constantine reigned from 306 to 337 AD who put the bible together during those years since the council of Nicea took place in 325.

Y'ushua was vegetarian, those teachings were removed. US pump drugs in cows and slit there throats. only beasts feed on fresh. Humans are not carnivores - fact!

Money is your God and it's collapsing.

The pineal gland is the centre of our Multiverse. The kingdom of heaven is within our conciousness. Meditation! Meditation! Meditation!

[dre1008]

Thats a strange form of logic for starters. I do believe the Bible is divine but not so much edited as MISINTERPRETED. Theres a difference, a big one. What a blind theologian interprets one way can be interpreted the correct way by a person who actually experiences the thing which its talking about. Much of Genesis for example is deeply allegorical and not literal, like its taken to be by Christian theologians. Your arrogance that youve 'studied' and therefore understood it better is false pride

[Apologist117]

If the Bible is divine, yet misinterpreted, why would God have given it to us if He knew we would misinterpret it? It makes no sense. You believe it is minsinterpreted because your religion tells you it is. It is not misinterprted by Christ's Church. We have been one for over 2,000 years. And the Holy Spirit has guided us into all truth.

[dre1008]

God gave us Jesus, it was the witnessing of his life that was put down as the New Testament the Apostles. Obviously the life of a divine being of that magnitude was going to be recorded and passed down to mankind for the upliftment of the human race. But the truths revealed in the Bible cannot be grasped by a purely literal interpretation in all places and you will find this is the only way that theologians have for the most part attempted to unravel it.

[dre1008]

A perfect example of this is where in Genesis the word 'days' has been taken to mean literal 24 hour periods where the creation was forged by God as an act of his divine will. But science has proven that the whole mechanism of the universe is based on evolution and billions of years of gradual development. Yet the literal interpreters will have no bar of this. It was a yogi who for the first time suggested that by 'days' the Bible is speaking figuratively of whole epochs lasting millions of year

[dre1008]

Here is another yogic perspective on the symbollism in Genesis. Just see how radically different it is from a purely literal interpretation. And yet it doesnt mean its not true, simply because what the Church preaches is based in large part of such literal interpretations made by theologians (scholars and intellectuals, not saints or men of actual spiritual realization):

[dre1008]

"Genesis is deeply symbolic, and cannot be grasped by a literal interpretation. Its 'tree of life' is the human body. The spinal cord is like an upturned tree, with man's hair as its roots, and afferent and efferent nerves as branches. The tree of the nervous system bears many enjoyable fruits, or sensations of sight, sound, smell, taste, and touch. In these, man may rightfully indulge; but he was forbidden the experience of sex, the 'apple' at the center of the bodily garden."

[dre1008]

"The 'serpent' represents the coiled-up spinal energy (kundalini) which stimulates the sex nerves. 'Adam' is reason, and 'Eve' is feeling. When the emotion or Eve-consciousness in any human being is overpowered by the sex impulse, his reason or Adam also succumbs. God created the human species by materializing the bodies of man and woman through the force of His will; He endowed the new species with the power to create children in a similar 'immaculate' or divine manner."

[dre1008]

"Because His manifestation in the individualized soul had hitherto been limited to animals, instinct-bound and lacking the potentialities of full reason, God made the first human bodies, symbolically called Adam and Eve. To these, for advantageous upward evolution, He transferred the souls or divine essence of two animals. In Adam or man, reason predominated; in Eve or woman, feeling was ascendant. Thus was expressed the duality or polarity which underlies the phenomenal worlds. "

[dre1008]

"Reason and feeling remain in a heaven of cooperative joy so long as the human mind is not tricked by the serpentine energy of animal propensities. The human body was therefore not solely a result of evolution from beasts, but was produced by an act of special creation by God. The animal forms were too crude to express full divinity; the human being was uniquely given a tremendous mental capacity-the 'thousand-petaled lotus' of the brain-as well as acutely awakened occult centers in the spine."

[dre1008]

God, or the Divine Consciousness present within the first created pair, counseled them to enjoy all human sensibilities, but not to put their concentration on touch sensations. These were banned in order to avoid the development of the sex organs, which would enmesh humanity in the inferior animal method of propagation. The warning not to revive subconsciously-present bestial memories was not heeded.

[dre1008]

Resuming the way of brute procreation, Adam and Eve fell from the state of heavenly joy natural to the original perfect man. Knowledge of 'good and evil' refers to the cosmic dualistic compulsion. Falling under the sway of maya through misuse of his feeling and reason, or Eve-and Adam-consciousness, man relinquishes his right to enter the heavenly garden of divine self- sufficiency.

[dre1008]

"The personal responsibility of every human being is to restore his 'parents' or dual nature to a unified harmony or Eden."

[zzinglish53]

Is that you Sri Yukteswarji?

[dre1008]

hehe. well spotted.

[Drumming2thelord]

thank you father for our daily bread :)

I have been fed, and my hunger has now been tamed!

thank you Dre for the feast!

[Apologist117]

I agree some of it is alegorical. All religions that ignore and do not confess Christ "having come in the flesh", are human manufacturings and works of the Devil, which do not lead to the true knowledge of God and rebirth through divine Baptism, but instead, mislead men and lead them to perdition.

[dre1008]

Hinduism accepts that Christ came as a person, just they add that he comes as others also. He is not limited to one identity in one lifetime in history. He himself said "I have sheep that are not of this flock". The rebirth through divine baptism, as stated earlier is deeper than baptism through a priest. The true baptism is merging in the Holy Ghost which is a sound and a vibration; the first active principle of God in creation. This is another deeper meaning point out by the yogis.

[Apologist117]

Oh brother, Hinduism has no right to interperet Christianity and our Scriptures. They relativize Christ just as the ancient Gnostics did. The Church Fathers totally refuted the heresies of Gnosticism. You don't know this and are not educated on these things. Hinduism is a religion of the devil. The devil seeks to imitate Christ. But this religion of the devil has taught you that the devil doesn't exist. Total ignorance. The Hindu's are demonized and spiritually deluded.

[dre1008]

Theres the reason why your attitude is the result of elitism and narrow selfish sectarian views. Christ doesnt belong to you personally any more than the sky or the earth. He exists for all people. Hinduism is like a wide umbrella under which all true faiths find acceptance. And again you speak from ignorance.. Yogananda admitted that the Devil exists. So again you see its you who is uninformed.

[dre1008]

The one demonizing Hinduism here is you.

[spiritchannel]

Have you ever sat with the masters of India? I have--you will know what it is like to be in the Presence of God once you have the chance to meet them. I met a Guru and was blessed to receive his teachings. You can not know until you meet an ascended one. OM BABAJI!

[Apologist117]

They're not masters. They are demonized and spiritually deluded human beings.

[spiritchannel]

How sad that you can not open your mind enough to even consider that there could be truth of which you are not aware...

[dre1008]

hypocrisy at its finest.

[YSBCITTAR]

@Apologist117 The blood sacrificing Abrahamic demonic spiritually deluded original sin religious cults have no place amongst the Pagan Vedic Masters of Light...

[XehanortNobody]

@Apologist117

Lol you knew that Yogananda said the devil existed and warned against him right?

And what Heriesies are you talking about the only one who took canon material out of the bible was emperor constanine, unless you believe constantine was more important than scripture you are misled Gospels like that of Thomas and Judas have validity but it seems that accoring to you constantine holds the absolute standard for validity.

[XehanortNobody]

Can you hold a scientific test about your accusation like realized masters do?

Can you test your affirmations against the laws of nature? Can you pray and be lifted from the ground? Can you walk through air and water as you do through floor like realized masters can? Can you have your arm severed from the body and stick it? Can you directly experience God and a total merger Him? Can your mind bend reality in all realities and universes?

In short have you meassured your accusations against

[XehanortNobody]

the natural laws?

[Greentipman]

The only thing to come out of India is doctrines of devils.

[dre1008]

The only thing evil about it is the ignorance and blind condemnation toward something you know nothing about just because it doesnt fit in with your institutionalized version.

[deepeshpakhare]

Does anyone know where was Jejus Christ had gone in his teenages? He had come to India to have knowledge of Geeta. He atained self realisation and then spreaded the message of love and peace.

[Apologist117]

Your view places the God Man, Jesus Christ, on the level of other contingent beings and the founders of false religions. Christ didn't go to India or anywhere. There is no evidence he went anywhere. He stated with his parents and was subject to them as the New Testament says.

[dre1008]

There most certainly are temple records in India and Tibet that Jesus visited there. The Bible misses out 3 years if his life. Deal with it.

[archanapsingh]

nice painting of babaji. :) powerful look to the eyes. :) jai guru, jai babaji. :)

[Sincreti2012]

The only Mahavatar Babaji is the Guru of Saint Lahiri Mahasaya of Benaras and Parmaparamguru of Paramhansa Yogananda founder of Self-Realization Fellowship Yogoda Satsanga of India. This society teach original Kriya Yoga...

Jay Guru.....Namastè

Jay Guru, Namastè.

[TimelessEndless]

Who are you talking about? If you are referring to Mahavatar Babaji but not Paramahansa Yoganda etc then he simply chose forms to appear at a certain periods. He does not age, a form is a chosen form. There are stories of him having appeared in various forms and age. His normal / 'true' form as shown in Autobiography of a Yogi was a form of a man in his early 20s.

[originalname33]

I've heard Yogi's say that the picture of Baba Ji in Autobiography Of A Yogi is not accurate. these were people who witnessed his form, allegedly.

[Apologist117]

If he's timeless and eternal, why does he age and put on weight?

[originalname33]

because HE is timeless and eternal. not his "bodily incarnation", which although lofty, was only running off of a fraction of divine energy.

I guess it's more of a question of what "he" means to you. you may perceive the low vibration physical aspect, but there's more to it. true enlightenment involves letting nature what it does and going with the flow.

[Apologist117]

Come on, do you really believe that? Please, learn critical thought skills.

[originalname33]

what do you mean by "that" doubting Thomas?

the body isn't the beginning and end. it's a fraction of the higher self manifested. true occultists know this to be fact.

it's when you bridge the gap you leave the cycle of rebirths. HE is timeless and eternal because WE are timeless and eternal, and we are all one.

he puts on weight because Divinity is EXPERIENCED, not expressed. true occultists know this.

[Apologist117]

You're making assertions which are ridiculous. We can't be timeless and eternal because we are complex. Anything complex is by definition finite and contingent (dependent). God alone is timeless and eternal (un-caused). We are not God because God is infinite. We aren't. We are, again, complex. God is absolutely simple. The Hindu's were ignorant of cosmology and logic. If Babaji's body was timeless, it would remain the same. He wouldn't gain weight and age. Again, learn critical thought skills.

[originalname33]

let me simplify it. when you exist in Time Space, you obey Time Space rules.

you over complicate matters and your reply speaks volume's to this.

in particular a phrase which shows your faults and hang up in beliefs.

"If Babaji's body was timeless, it would remain the same"

before you were talking about "he", NOW you're talking about "his body".

BIG difference; more so to a true occultist than a fundamentalist Christian.

WE ARE NOT THE BODY. MAYA IS AN ILLUSION. pick up on it.

[Apologist117]

Man is not body or soul. Man is body AND soul combined. Your view is esseintially Gnostic (this heresy underlies much of eastern religions) and views matter as evil, which it is not. If the body were illusion, then your hypothesis that the body is an illusion, is itself an illusion since it came from a brain/body. I'm not fundamentalist. I'm Greek Orthodox.

[originalname33]

Matter is inherently neutral...now it's all in your head. nowhere did I insinuate that matter was evil, that is a product of your illusion.

(how can something which teaches us duality be evil?)

and you last hypothesis (for that's all it is, the Yogi's of India have reached conclusion eons ago) is presumptive combat.

what you think comes from "brain/body" I say comes from SPIRIT. a Divine Spark which is within all.

didn't Jesus say my Father's Kingdom is within?

maybe you'll listen to him...

[dre1008]

the whole premise of yoga is that you have to meditate to still the thoughts and latent impressions of the mind in order to experience what you are in essence, which is timeless eternal consciousness. in that sense we are god because we are made of the same 'stuff'; infinite omnipresent consciousness. Babaji's body, like all manifest forms, is an atomic structure. but in essence atoms are waves as well as particles - like solidifed light. realized yogis can manipulate matter though the mind.

[Apologist117]

Yoga is a "me" generation cult where the self remains the center of focus. That's why this fast food and pseudo-"spirituality" is popular among westerners, because it doesn't demand anything from the person. There is no concept of personal transformation of the self, holiness, repentance, spiritual perfection, and dying (crucifiction) to the world and lower fallen nature.

[dre1008]

Thats where your lack of research adds to your ignorance. Personal transformation from self-centeredness to holiness is the whole essence of it. See, this is where fundamentalist orthodoxy falls flat, because you so easily dismiss something you know nothing about, neither conceptually, nor experientially. Youre just a victrola for ignorant fundamentalism.

[Apologist117]

There are no rebirths. This is a pagan and Hindu superstition which was man-made by deluded men who need the divine light of Christianity.

[jplafortune]

If you choose to look at these videos its a good sense of openness. Take this opportunity for a growth. Tolerance and acceptance can only lead to peace. You should abstain from commenting on people's belief.

Love

[dre1008]

Christ himself is a great yogi, like Buddha and Krishna. Christ Himself is more than a singular entity - it refers to the consciousness of God present in all creation (hence the Son, or reflected consciousness of the Father - the Absolute Unmanfiest Causeless Spirit beyond creation). If you meditate and actually experience God's presence within your own self, you perceive it in everything; omnipresent). That is Christ, not just one soul manifested as the man Jesus, but the Soul of all souls.

[Apologist117]

That's part of your false teaching. Like other false teachings, it confuses the Creator/Creation distinction and places Christ on the level of contingent beings, which he is not. He is one person and God Almighty -- second person of the Holy Trinity. And your religion has no right to comment on the founder of the Christian religion.

[dre1008]

Thats part of your fundamentalist ignorance. The only place in the Bible that gives Christian Theologians the idea that Jesus is the only Christ or Son of God is where he says none can come to the Father but by Him. But this means the Christ, not just Jesus the man, and there are more souls who are fully one with Christ through who the Son is manifest. And im Christian as well.. just not the fundamentalist bigoted type. This ignorant aspect of Christianity will one day be replaced with the Truth

[Apologist117]

You shouldn't assume and lump all Christians as fundamentalists. Fundamentalism is s very recent phenomenon in Christian history. I don't even know what the term means. I am Orthodox Christian. My view is 2,000 years old. Second. There is no Christianity outside Orthodoxy. You are a schismatic heretic with absolutely no divine authority to even speak for Christianity. You have created a god to suit your self and lifestyle. But the Bible is clear that Christ is the only way.

[dre1008]

What it means is exactly the kind of ignorance you exhibit of Christ's message, which was inclusive and not exclusive as well as of other faiths. The Church's teaching is mostly the result of theologians and thinkers interpreting the Bible in their own way. You have accepted this rigid interpretation as Christ's own meaning and so you go around thumbing your nose at anyone who says differently. There most certainly is Christianity outside of orthodoxy. Christ Himself is outside of it.

[Apologist117]

Second, John said that he who has the Son has life, but he that does not have the Son does not have life [1 John 5:12]. Jesus said he that has the Son has life. He that does not have the Son is damned. [John 3:36]. Peter said there is no other name under heaven that can save, but Jesus Christ. [Acts 4:12]. Saint Paul said that belief in Jesus' resurrection is necessary for salvation. [Rom.10:9]. Christ said he is the only way. John 14:6]. I can go on and on.

[gp1602]

Wonderful. And the space sound of a pulsar (I wonder which one) adds to its beauty. Thank you anyway.

[chintupawan]

Awesome video.. how did u get this idea to mix the video with those graphics..

[ConnorShawMusic]

this is awesome

:)

[ConnorShawMusic]

aum babaji

[savingbeauty]

Very nicely done. Penetrating. Up there. In there. Off here.

[134being]

All men/women/children are immortal but few realise it!Now is immortality if we can only realise now we would be immortal.Sadly most live in linear time this,is an illusion.Now is the only state of the universe and things in general.Past is man/mind made.

[134being]

Now is the only state of things.There is only one I in the universe I who in that body and everybody calls myself I.

[DiGiTaLdAzEDM]

Trippy.

[nik2047]

Are Mahavatar Babaji and the Haidakhan Babaji, who appeared between 1970 and 1984, the same "person".

[yoganandinbloom]

There are different opinions. The disciples of Haidhakan Baba say "Yes", others feel "No"; meditate about,you will find YOUR answer.

[Talosian1]

No. It is sad when people claim to be the immortal Babaji.

[MalcolmO]

Go to the HB sites and read 100 quotes. Only 1 mentions God. None mentions Kriya Yoga. Or ANY yoga. So no.

[nandhi108]

gratitude, divine brother!

[cindylynne66]

Wow....this posting....it is profound. As well as the comments. Excellant!

[supralee]

babaji is not somthing extraodinary but just human being like u and i only done much training so lives in happy mood:)

[dre1008]

Actually i would put it another way. He is something extraordinary but u and i are like him only we need to do much training so we live in the same mood. Omnipresent awareness is extraordinary. It is the not same as the usual human consciousness.

[supralee]

extraodinary is training not the babaji.babaji has done much training and anyone can do the same:)i agree with u partly but to u babji is extraodinary for me training:)

[dre1008]

I know what you mean. You mean were the same as him and i agree. But what we are as ordinary is also extraordinary because we are existence itself. How extraordinary!

[supralee]

we are without training just full of gray being with training we became just better:)and more alive:)

[dre1008]

Who knows what else we become beyond just that. Keep training and see ;p

[supralee]

little better nothing more:)if we keep training.thanks i try:)

[Edu888777]

I really liked the music, are you the composer?Have Myspace?

[prakrishti]

did anyone see him.. i want to see him.. what should i do?

[dre1008]

Think on him constantly day and night. Make him the eternal companion of your soul. Let his name be upon your lips until it passes to the wordless heart. Emblazon his name upon your heart like Hanuman did Rama's. You will know Babaji. Seeing his physical form is a blessing he alone can bestow. Pray instead for that state where whatever one sees, it is all Babaji. Then alone you will know Him as He truly is.

[anandasearch]

Great comment Namaste!!!

[PJAchar]

Is there any book on his origin, and where about, to give a better idea. Somethings that is quoted/said in some of your comments is beyond my concept of comprehension...yeah I know the usual jargon one tells here that one has to elevate to a state to understand things, but hey every one can't retrieve to Himalayas, (and why specifically Himalaya?) then it will become like another NewYork.

[maryandmartin1]

Babaji is beyond time and space - that is why he appears to be the same over many hundreds/thousands of years to different people in different times. He is appearing simultaneously, at the same time - this happened when he reached a stage of evolution - or more accurately - when the world reached a stage to accept his vibration and at that time He appeared to his students throughout time in all their various incarnations - but that's the past - what's happening now is even more amazing.

[JackHighlander]

babaji and the 18 siddha kriya yoga tradition by marshall govindan is rather fascinating & gives many details of babaji's biography. it also goes into the lives of the siddhas & the ancient culture of immortality into which they initiated babaji. it then compares their experiences with those of modern indian saints.

[PJAchar]

Thanks for the updated info on the book, will surely read this one.

[YogSamadhi]

Jai Mahavatar(Kripacharya) Babaji Ki!

[marzenun]

great music!

thx!

[Pengwag]

oh dear !

[SANDEEPADINAS]

Thankyou oh blessed one

[livingbytheganges]

thanks

Om babaji

[lotus6900]

babaji is omnipresent he is everywhere

[berto1999]

TRUTH!

[sidhaguru]

babaji lives in heaven,brahma loka,he will appear to yogis in the himalayas,he does not live there.

[JUSTINmmm]

he does not live anywhere. But he does not go to heaven because he has vowed to stay on earth until the end of this cycle. He is always with his devotees in the himalayas though.

[manueldamnit]

What of heaven, you may ask. I tell you, dear one, heavenly pleasures are the same as earthly ones-Krisna, Uddhava Gita

Heaven is not the goal the Self is and Babji is, in, and knows the Self.

[berto1999]

Babaji is the HEAVEN! He does not come and does not go away. He is the universal SPIRIT, He is everywhere! Babaji's body is only a game, a leela!

[JUSTINmmm]

he has not left his physical body in ages. And heaven is only a mortal concept. 'Heaven' is a state of existence. Average souls god to the astral plane when they die and ascended masters go to the more subtle casual plane which are planets with a very high vibration. Babaji is still here on earth to help others reach that state of illumination.

[chicky2508]

who r u ? plz tell me abt ur self .

How u know Mahavatar Babaji and How Much do u know abt him

[josepolo950]

where are you from in India????

[dre1008]

Babaji is not really an individualized being. He is Brahman Itself. He is one with Iswara and exists in/as the souls and bodies of all created beings as well as the formless Infinite Being. There is no loka where he resides as opposed to another loka. He resides in them all equally even if, to others, he may appear bodily in one loka or another. Babaji is not His body, he is exitsence Itself simultaneously present everywhere.

[Turbotechnik]

Thank You