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  • I disagree.

    Destroying the base is retarded thing to do when you have invasion of big machines that shoot lasers from their tentacles. Not to mention Turian, Human and Asari fleet couldnt take down Sovereign, he only died because Shepard destroyed his main power core when he took over Saren. They shouldnt have made "keeping the base" as renegade decision. They should made multiple choices of what techology and info would you want to safe or destroy.

  • @Chester1004 yes, but cerberus would probably take that base and all its tech for itself.

  • @Chester1004 I agree.

    Shep conquered and destroyed an enemy it seems logical to take over the base and use the tech. Besides EDI is based on Reaper tech, and she's very useful. The Normandy's main gun (IF UPGRADED) is based on Reaper tech. Renegade Shep always willing to do whatever it takes.

  • @DCWalkman but the thing is, the Illusive man is ruthless, what's to say that even if they win the war and save humanity that he won't continue to use it to wipe out the other spicies or attack other universes. It's true that most of the Normandy's systems and weapons are based off reaper tech, but it's in the hands of people that'll use it for a good purpose

  • You know what? It'd be great if keeping the Collector base turned out to be the SMART option, as in the one with the most benefits in ME3. That would be a massive curveball for everyone who'd been blindly clicking paragon options since they usually turn out for the better.

  • @lollerfisk i've played through every career skipping back and forth with my options, honestly it depends on what the illusive man and my teammates say when it comes down to the crunch.

  • @lollerfisk

    Couldn't agree more. Throughout the history of warfare, it has always been beneficial to take and adapt enemy technology. From the Romans taking beached Carthaginian vessels and learning how to make them better, to the Meiji restoration, to WWII, it has always been the smart thing to do. With the Reapers being millions of years ahead of us, it would be suicide to destroy that technology because of some half-baked notion that it is evil.

  • @BrianETrent Indeed. My only concern with keeping it, however, is that I'm delivering it into TIM's hands, and I'm not sure that bodes well. Of course, he's only one man, and Cerberus is far less of a threat than the Reapers.

  • @kilox10001 I agree, thats what I was thinking. Though I wish their was an option where you can upload the Collector Base location to the Council or Alliance.

  • @mgsfan103 Exactly what I was thinking, you should be able to upload it to the Alliance instead of the Illusive Man having sole control over it.

  • Goddamn, this has to be one of the most epic endings to a game I've ever seen.

  • anyone know what music plays at the end?with all the reapers?

  • 4:31 Collector General: where the fuck am i?.. oh shit!

  • i got the nobody dies ending whith 2 crew no loyal , you just have not to taken them to any of the missions and it should be fine (you need to upgrade the ship)

  • At least my Thane didnt have to worry about Keprals syndrome and died a merciful death at the hands of............THE BEES!!!!!!!!!!

  • i think the elusive man is a reaper controlled human

  • Glad to see someone who played the ending like I did (Renegade ending, Paragon dialogue). I wish you didn't cut them off like that, though (or was that a side-effect of Fraps?)

  • i got tottaly pwned I only had Miranda's loyalty

  • when did skynet start working for the collectors

  • Why do i get this munching feeling on me, even while i saved the galaxy atleast 1 innocent person died on the ship?

    I may be wrong, but i think the Collector General wasnt the bad guy, or deserved to die.

    I think he might have chosen to be under control to save his people from genocide, despite being genetically morphed that they dont resemble what they used to be.

    And when Harbringer releases control he seems to be worried or sad he couldnt save his race, but seems to accept his faith.

  • @Karin1369 That's odd, because to me, he seems like he's in a state of, "what the hell just happened," for a brief second, before turning around and seeing his station getting blow up.

  • @Karin1369

    Yeah, he either seems sorry that he failed the Reapers or that his species is now gone.

    I also think at the end, when we see the General at the computers, he is sending Harbinger's schematics to the Normandy as a last act of defiance aginst the Reapers, or maybe he's just trying to stop the station blowing up. I like my theory though.

  • I imported my MS 1 profile, destroyed the collector base and only lost Jack (but she was a bitch anyway). The only people in my team that weren't loyal were Jack and Zaheed, but only Jack died...

  • i had jack, thane, and legion die on the trip to the collectors ship.

    and then tali died when she got out of the tunnels. and finally grunt was killed when i got to the end of the swarm part. so i have a descent team for MA3

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  • just finished the game.....man.......5 members of my crew made it....is that good?

  • @PIvotfan3001

    As long as Tali and Thane survived, good enough : )

  • @gv1955 well thane died but tali survived :)

  • @PIvotfan3001

    THHAAANNNEE... NOOOOOOOOO...

  • @gv1955 i know........its too late...thane is in better place now.... :*(

  • Hey I saved them all, and I also gave the base to cerberus reminding that i won't sacrifice the soul of our spiecies for this!I think that it is good so I can get a good start at Mass Effect 3 after importing shepard from ME2.

  • best ending in gaming history!

  • wonder if there are reapers in other galaxies also???

  • For those who want to know. For a perfect ending you need the following.

    SHIP UPGRADES: Armor (From Jacob) Shields (From Tali) Thanix Cannon (From Garrus)

    LOYALTY:Get max loyalty with everyone you can & unlock their special powers in order to guarantee their survival.

    FINAL MISSION SQUAD ASSIGNMENTS: Vents(Legion)1st Squad Leader(Garrus) Shield(Jack ) 2nd Squad Leader(Garrus) Escort(Mordin) Final team(Garrus and Grunt)

    I'm not sure but I think who you choice for the final is up to you.

  • The last minute of this video....holy shit, best ending I ever saw, and great music/scene combo.

  • i just can't wait for the future...i hope in 2012 it won't come jesus...i hope we will find some advanced tehnology and "warp" into the SPACE ERA :) man..i hope anyway this game is epic...mass effect 3 is coming..hold ur fire! :)!!

  • I don't trust the Illusive Man, his eyes glow blue like Saren's did

  • i some how got the most perfect ending. nobody died not even a single crew member. every one except... my fish... oh god why did my fish have to die. if only i remembered to feed them.

    *cries*

  • @athens8000 i must of killed 40 fish the entire game.. Id always forget to feed them

  • @athens8000 you can get yeoman chambers to feed them for you

  • At 4:38 the scratches are still on the camera from when the Normandy first landed on the base.

  • So many of the crew survived but Jack, you need to have all of them alive in the end of the mission to complete the success

  • @akumtsuki It seems two crewmembers died actually. There were two coffins at the end.

  • The Illusive Man is a fucking pimp.

  • greatest game ever!

  • @noobydude1 I couldn't agree with you more. This is hands down the greatest game ever.

  • Harbinger voice reminds me of the Transcendent One at the ending of Planescape Torment

  • to be honest I wouldn't care is everyone but garrus and mordin died, if they go then it's game over in my books

  • whats with the illusive mans eyes ? is he an android or something ?

  • @oisinom

    Ocular Implants

  • lol the noise the final boss makes i thought like Optimus Prime was gonna come up lol

  • This is almost exactly like my first Mass Effect 2 ending. I also had used Garrus and Miranda for the last battle. I did choose to take the technology for the base, but I eventually told the Illusive man to go screw himself. Its a contradicting ending, cause you first help Cerberus with the technology, but then you realize at the very end the Illusive man will only use it for humankind, and tell him to go screw himself. Out of all the endings, I think this one is the most cinematic.

  • @Carryon871

    I told him to get his ass in Line, it's much more satisfying.

  • 7:48 is a beautiful moment, made me cry :')

  • HUMAN. YOU HAVE CHANGED NOTHING..I was really looking forward to at least putting a bullet down the gob of the head-bug that Harbinger was controlling, if not killing Harbinger himself.

  • @iksarguards

    Harbinger is a Reaper, not the Collector General.

  • Renegade option - Illusive man is looking towards a red..sun?

    Paragon option - Illusive man is looking towards a blue..sun?

  • @LajjTheMan yea i thought about that, too... very curious

  • I don't see why ppl would blow up the base if they are renegade. Seriously, the illusive man is awesome and offered an alliance at the end with reaper technology. As for aliens...oh wellll

    Cerberus>Alliance

  • *SPOILER ALERT**

    I just beat it and everyone survived -- I did the loyalty mission for all party members, had all the ship's gun/plating upgrades, used Tali for my engineer, Garrus for both the diversion and alternate team leader, Jacob to escort the crew back to the Normandy, Jack/Samara as my biotic shield and finally -- make sure you have Mordin in your team when you beat the game or he will die defending the door with the others! Oh, I was also full paragon if that helps.

  • I can do the loyalty missions, and I have some of the upgrades, but for some reason, it's not showing me some of the upgrades to get, like the med-bay upgrade or the Thanix cannon, I now I have to talk to some of the crew members for it, but is there something else I should do so they can appear on it

  • That's a lie, I didn't have Mordin with me and he was just fine, you just have to have enough people defending the door.

  • I don't know about you, but telling the Illusive Man to suck it is worth the risk of the Reapers winning.

  • it would be awesome if the Geth helped you against the Reapers they have like 5 billion geth or something im pretty sure that will help or even getting rid of the Krogan genophage and using Krogans again and preferably not screwing them over...again cause i just think its wrong but i do get why they did it.

  • I hope the Geth give the Quarians back their homeworld too.

  • I blew up the base :3

    Love the ending scene when all the Reapers appear. Epic !

  • i would keep the base, but i would advise the illusive man to build technologies bassed off of the keepers, and refrain from using the actual ship.

  • the voice of harbinger is in german more evil and dark

  • @HerrCommerzienrat The english voice sounds far more awesome, gotta love the original voice cast, fits every single character perfectly. And Harbinger sounds like a true Reaper badass... This ending is epic beyond belief!

  • @dominikabra

    Sovereign sounds more imposing.

  • this so reminds me of the destruction of the star forge in kotor 1 :))

  • One of the most epic endings in gaming history!!!

    Only downside is that once you know how to keep your crew alive, a large part of the tension from this mission is lost.

    If you want to get one of the "bad" endings, you basically have to scew up on purpose.

  • yeah tension is lost when played threw again but lucky for me all of my team members survived best fucking ending ever.

  • If collector facility is in galaxy core why they have " black sun " ?:]

  • any opinions???

    should i keep the base

    or

    blow it sky high?

  • If you keep it, your team says things after the mission that are possibly foreshadowing something Cerberus'll do with the base against 'everyone'... as well as questioning your judgment.

    If you blow it up, then they will believe that you did the right thing, and you can tell the Illusive Man to kiss your ass and such.

    But hey, it's all up to you, so 'do what you feel is right'. xD

  • Blow it the fuck up.

  • paragon option is to blow it up. sounds crazy, but trust me its true

  • Blow it. Since it's no question that all the power that the base will give him is going to coroupte him, beyond what he said, it's too tempting to go into a power trip.

  • why did you let jack die, it is so easy to have everyone survive

  • One of the best endings to a game ever, and man the last images on the screen make the wait for Mass Effect 3 almost painful

  • nah its definitly painfull but itll looks like itll be a lot of space fight i mean look at game from a little father... what make those videos great that you impatiently wait for them trought all that killing :)

  • No one died on me. Just upgrade the ship.

    Make the crew loyal.

    Use miranda as leader always.

    Leagon as spy(stealth part)

    And the guy jake (black guy) or what ever his name is to take the people back to the ship. ( no one dies).

    FACT!!!!!!

    DO YOU PEOPLE NOTICE THAT THE PLANET OR SUN BEHIND THE ILLUSIVE MAN CHANGES COLOR DEPENDING YOUR ENDING.

    COULD IT BE EXPLANED IN ME3?

  • Legion died for me, so did jacob and samaura

    I was loyal to legion and jacob but since Samra was not loyal, it got her and jacob killed and legion i'm not sure why

  • Everyone survived every time I beat this. I don't understand how you guys lost your teammates. If you listen to who they are throughout the game, it's not hard to choose who to do what.

  • @Kroche929 exactly my thoughts. pretty obvious that a legion or tali r gd with tech lol

  • I beat this game 1000/1000 on xbox 360. I cried of joy and epic ness. Game of the year hands down

  • If you wanna make sure NO one's left behind ,then aside from upgrading to full and making everybody loyal, you need to consider the fact that, for example, Mordin, Jack and Tali can't hold up in a defense fight.

    I'd suggest you let Tali walk through in the first part, then set either Miranda or Garrus to lead the fire team, let Mordin escort survivors, and take Tali and Jack with you.

    Nobody dies, and if you got there ASAP, the Normandy's ALL normal again...

    Also, the base decision... Morals....

  • sadly I failed Samara's quest and when I finished the quest it said she was loyal when at the end of the game I found out she wasn't so it got jacob and her killed

  • in my ending 2 people died jack and tali. it was sad but better than my fisrt ending when only 3 of the crew survived

  • 7:56 - To all those who killed the Rachni queen, shot Wrex, picked Udina for the Council, released the evidence at Tali's trial, blew up the Heretic base, destroyed the Collector base, and many other decisions that leave you with no allies/support?

    Good luck for ME3: that is a LOT of Reapers.

  • You get the same no matter what you do...

  • Yeah Hell you're right! ME3 Would be EEPIC!

  • something tells me that even with ten massive armies at your back, they wouldnt stand a chance against the reapers...whatever happens in ME3, the Reapers wont be defeated using conventional methods

  • Those were reapers o_o

    I suppose I forgot what sovereign looked like. Then again I have a model ship of it in my captain cabin

  • I lost Mordin , that Blue Sun Merc ex leader guy cant remember the name.

  • I recommend seeing that one in HD. Seriously, i got heebie-jeebies because of that.

  • I did it and everyone lived in my squad. But I delayed going not knowing Kelly would die but I got the get everyone out achievement!! :) Get all tech upgrades for ship and make sure that the specialist you pick have the skills needed and are loyal. Example: Garrus can hold the door when you do the biotic shield protection part but if he isnt loyal he could die. If he is he wont.

  • tali - vents ... jacob - alternative squad ... samara - biotic shield ... samara and mordin for the final battle ...

    every1 survives ... every1 was loyal was except miranda .. it said loyalty=normal .. n i blew up the base ;) ..

  • I only lost legion and miranda.

  • It will always be a fight between Miranda and Tali.

  • I always wondered if having your love interest being the one you save from rolling off the platform to the reaper.

  • i romanced miranda here

  • I have played games for over 25 years now, and never have I had such a sense of reward and satisfaction on ending a game like ME2.

    Damn Bioware, make us proud on ME3 and beyond!

  • Definitely the most amazing ending of a gaming experience i have ever experienced

  • Definitely the "Empire Strikes Back/Two Towers" moment there. The story ends with you being worse off than you were at the start, the next one, good prevails.

  • this makes me wonder if the human reaper had been completed, would it travel through space like superman, or would it have its drive core in its feet

  • I only lost jack, thane, tali and legion in my campaign.

  • "only"? Thats half your crew

  • I managed to get EVERYONE alive in 2nd walktrough.

  • The last shot of the Reaper fleet makes me wonder...

    Reaper 1: Say, how long will it take for us to reach the galaxy at our current speed?

    Reaper 2: Long enough for everyone who believes in our existence to die from old age many times over. Victory is imminent!

    Reaper 1: More like several millennia away.

  • "We will find another way... In one hundred THOUSAND years!"

  • @Beelzeboogie thought that. goin at that speed will take a long time

  • Didnt the collectors say they they design the repears to look like the victims they use?

    So the people who built those reapers must of killed jelly fish like people

  • Get all upgrades. Get full loyalty (Legion's loyalty is not necessary)

    Vent - Tali or Legion

    1st Fireteam lead - Garrus, Miranda, Jacob

    2nd Fireteam lead - Garrus, Miranda, Jacob

    Biotic Barrier - Jack, Samara

    Escort - Anyone with loyalty

    Final battle - Anyone with loyalty

  • Holy shit did you see all those reapers at the end?

  • cannot wait for number 3 all it took to stop one reaper in mass effect 1 just think what it will take to stop 50 thousand of the darn things

  • @wolf99000 yeh number 3 will be so amazing i cant wait

  • My entire crew survived, i blowed Collectors base and told Illusive Man to fuck off.

    ME1- Threat has started

    ME2- Was has begun.

    ME3- The end begins.

  • oh and jacob on escort

  • i did legion on vents garrius 2nd squad leader, samara shield and the assasin and grunt on my team and everything survived. had everyone but miranda loyal she got pissed after i told her to back off from jack :P

  • tali=vents

    miranda=2nd squad leader

    samara=biotic shield person

    legion/grunt on your team

    jacob to escort survivors

  • can you say that in my private messege box plz?

  • Pfffft? What kind of scrub lets any of their party die. Get good at the game.

  • Epic music

  • Damn Illusive Man has a pretty evil smile when looking at the base. Gives me a bad feeling.

  • you guys have no idea wth you are talking about....get EVERYONE's loyalty, get the important ship upgrades, nobody dies, not even the person in the ventilation, problem solved.

  • My Ship had a female Shepard and every one on my specialty team survived except Jack and Legion. Dr Chakwas survived but my Assistent Kelly was liquified. That sucked. I kept the reaper base intact. Fuck blowing it up we need them shits for part 3!!

  • IN my crew everyone except Tali and Jack were loyal. During the game I bought all Normandy upgrades which I came across. In the End only Legion and Jack had died. So, if everyone is loyal and I buy most or all ship upgrades, everyone should survive/except a character who goes to vents . Right?

  • No, you can get every character through alive. As long as you send Legion through the vents you should do just fine, but who you chose for the Fireteam leader is important; wrong one and your tech expert gets WTFROCKETFACED. Right ones are Miranda and Garrus, but I've heard that Jacob works just as well.

  • Send Mording back to Escort people, use Garrus/Miranda to lead.

  • I don't like to risk Mordin to go anywhere since he is probably the easiest to get killed. So I always have him in my party except during the biotic shielding sequence. Otherwise, he is always with me.

  • mordin has a habit of dieing if I was you I would keep him on your team for the last part I did

    legion vents

    miranda leading team 1 and 2

    samara shields

    jacob escort duty

    then i took miranda and mordin with me

    and everyone lived

  • Oh my... it seems like whoever you send with the crew will live if they are loyal, since I saw another video that states that Jacob died while defending the crew.

  • not sure how if you follow what I did you will be ok and that was with jack not loyal as I never got her back after her falling out with miranda

  • learn to use some fucking commas

  • @Turbokaratelaserpuma if you got legion, would he get a coffin?

  • IF you have 100% Paragon/Renegade but you fail to persuade in a fight before that, you can persuade the person you took a side against to be loyal again.

  • yea but I did not get 100% before I had done everything and launched the mission but it worked out jack lived

  • tnx for the advice.

  • Is there any way to make sure that Jack survives?

  • @MechaJake32 also: I got everyone loyal BEFORE getting to the derelict reaper. Then recruited Legion and did his loyalty mission straight away. Right after that go to the omega 4 relay and get to the Collector's base. I chose Legion for vents, Miranda as team 1 leader, Garrus as team 2 leader, Samara for biotic shield, Jack escorts crew back. If you are fast enough to get to the base after the derelict reaper, all the crew should survive (including Kelly). I'm full on paragon btw.

  • well i didnt upgrade only weapons and armor

    and all my teammates were loyal and the lived

    so what i reccomand do what they ask u help them before the suicide mission then they survive

  • The reason why people are asking how many of his crew suvived is because when you choose to EMP/BLOW it up what usually happen's is that everyone die's including shepard, I too was amazed by the amount of crew members survived that choice but if everyone survived then dam you better tell me everything you did in DETAIL!!! I want that station in tact but I also want as many crew members to survive.

  • i got everyone from my crew to survive.

    and also saved the station

    also saved doctor chakwas and the other guys that arent in your team but still on your crew its pretty easy actually

  • the smile at the end while he is analyzing the collector ship basically means "Thanks for playing Mass Effect 2, you fucked up and will suffer the consequences in Mass Effect 3." Glad I blew up the ship

  • @rulebreaker510 I Couldn't agree more.

  • I need suggestions for fighting as an adept on insanity. I think the reaper at the end will be changed to raper.....sooooooo yeah. Fighting has been tough and I need help.

  • DEATH MASK FOR THE WIN :D

  • 6:11

    Shouldn't it be "I'm out"?

  • "you're out" meaning: Shepard will go after him if he screws around... and the Illusive man knows better of what Shepard is capable of... unfortunately... he'll probably do something stupid anyways...

  • I suspect he plans to fill TIM with bullets if he devotes resources to fighting aliens instead of the reapers :D

  • There are a ton of different combos you can use to live, here's what I know:

    First, DO NOT CHOOSE GRUNT FOR A SQUAD LEADER!!

    Leaders: Garrus or Miranda will work.

    Crew Escort:  I got Jacob to work.

    Biotic Barrier: Jack or Samara/Morinth will work for this.

    Final Squad: I chose Mordin and Thane, I've seen Garrus, Maranda, Legion, and Zaeed work, no clue on anyone else.

    Just make sure you are fully upgraded, max loyalty to every crew member, and you should be fine.

  • hmm, strange... only a Mordin died on my 1st playtrue on insanity... (yh, iam a freak :D), everyone was loyal, all researches on and i used this team setup...

    vent: Legion

    squad 1, 2: Garrus - liked him even in 1st game

    biotic: Samara

    and in endgame party: Garrus and Thane

    but who cares, ill finish it one more time, because its best rpg i've ever played :)))

  • I played through without anyone getting killed. setup was as follows.

    Vent: Legion

    Squad 1: Miranda

    Squad 2: Miranda

    Biotic: Jack

    Escort: Zaeed

    Last Party: Legion and Samara

    I had every available ship upgrade, thanks to a warning from a friend who had played through earlier then I did. Lol.

  • the first time i did it whit all loyal except jack and zaeed they where bouth on the 2 teams but all of the crew and team members survived couse i had all opgrades for the ship and jack and zaeed had no speciel tasks

  • Nice Ending, I wanted to know what happens if you don't destroy the Collector Base, but didn't feel like playing another game to find out. For my selection:

    Vent: Legion (mostly cause if he died in there, I wouldn't care too much)

    1st Squad: Garrus

    2nd Squad: Garrus (I have a weakness for vigilante justice)

    Biotic Shield: Samara

    Escort: Jacob

    Last Party: Samara and Tali

    Everyone survived on my first playthrough as a soldier.

  • great ending to great game...ps joker kicks ass

  • And escort Mordin! (hey it worked) sorry I kept on forgetting shit.

  • O ya and my selections were

    1st squad leader: Miranda (she's a natural leader)

    Tech: Tali (that is a stupid question. No shit you are going to use a quarian)

    2nd squad: Garrus (he was the leader when he was the archangel)

    Biotic Sheid: Samara (she's a freaking justicar!)

    Last Party: Legion and Zaeed

    Everyone survived and it was my 1st playthrough/1st try. Follow my advice. (get upgrades and everyone loyal!)

  • Well get all of the upgrades and be smart on the specialists and fire team leaders. On my first playthrough everybody survived. I say again everybody! Save before you start the mission and chhose you leaders wisely. Good luck Sheperd. (also bring the collector beam rifle and save it till the end!!!)

  • were do you get all the upgrades for the ship

  • What was the song when shepard and his crew was running?

  • When you choose to keep the place doesn't the illusive man give a creepy smile i can't find it.

  • @WeirdXJakem

    im too =(

  • he did at the end. how did you miss that?

  • i liked the armor to shepard!

  • But my Legion was loyal and he died randomly by being taken by the swarms... :(

    And in my ending, Jack and the Justicar died because I wanted to see what happens if you aren't loyal to them.

  • i thought joker had that brittle bone thingy so he cant walk

  • @thehobbit03

    he can walk but its very hard to him.its like-you fall and all your bones are broken.

  • You let jack die? Asshole.

  • fuck off

  • The Illusive Man has lied to Sheperd on so many occasions. I sure as hell wasn't going to trust him to Reaper technology.

  • 2.35

    Sucks to be Subject Zero.

  • I dont get though does that mean that the collectors were really good, because harbinger says releasing control of the general which would control the rest of the collectors, therefore harbinger controlled the general one all that time and they werent really bad they were just being used.