MLP:FiM Season 2 Episode 15 Reaction Commentary (Part 2)

[stamdar1]

This show is for grown men. Why ate children watching this?

[H0wlingSheWolf]

Applejack: "I DIDNT LEARN ANYTHING! I was right all along!" :D

Couldn't stop laughing at that XD

[otakukitsu]

i just thougt of something even if flim and flam won and had solo rights to sell cider the apple family is still the only place to get apples so they would have to buy the apples form them or they would't have any cider to sell

[flarepie24]

@99966x XD it's funny cuz u have no idea what you r talking about

[Darkanimeking23]

i love the song and the lettle AJ was so funny but what would Princess Celestia'reaction be when she would read it :D

[Ganthan]

(...P3) If they're willing to offload Zapapple Jam to a retailer (Filthy Rich) why not let someone better equipped handle the cider? There's two ways to move in the world of business; you can either meet the demand yourself or someone else will do it instead.

[Ganthan]

(...P2) I mean, the Apple family is spending ALL of their working hours making and selling this cider. Are you telling me there's NOTHING else productive they can do right now? They have corn, they have grapes, they even have sheep. Flim and Flam wouldn't even use up all their apples because there would still be trees their bulky machine wouldn't reach. (...cont)

[Ganthan]

Personally, I think the Apples threw away a golden opportunity with Flim and Flam. It was implied that the machine WOULD have been able to make the cider at a decent level of quality, they just turned it off for that competition. Even at only 25% of the profits, a lot more cider is being sold, PLUS the sale of the apples to make the cider, PLUS the Apple family don't have to invest any of their time in it anymore. (...cont)

[PrinceHeru]

I love how a full grown man just go WOOH for my little pony, this is why I watch the series. To met the fans who love it and make my day.

[BlackSheWolfBella]

I wish I had Hub! T.T

[MLavaYT]

I like ponies, oh also I'm out of orange juice.

[sp0rkman1]

What channel is the hub on bell?

[ShadowBlastAlpha]

@sp0rkman1 What are you trying to say? What is "bell"?

[sp0rkman1]

@ShadowBlastAlpha never mind



[chromachan]

@ShadowBlastAlpha Bell provides cable service here in Canada... I don't think the Hub airs in Canada.

[Bakorafanboy13]

They talk about kingdom of canterlot

(celestia lowers)

Hi, i came to make cider

AB:but why princess

Tia:well having more workers and less machines allows me to spend more tax money on beautification and less on unemployment now if you'll excuse me

WHOOSH

[Bakorafanboy13]

Actually the quality for the flim flam bros was great until they turned off the quality check

Also they only made that much cider with the help of their friends at TOP SPEED

Finnaly DR.WHOOVES that is all

[weskatlol]

i saw that commercial yesterday

[wookiedestroyer101]

You shouldn't look into it too much, you have to remember at the end of the day it IS still a kids' show...

[pvtread]

dear princes celestia, today i learned, KEEP SWEETYBELLS MOUTH SHUT LOL

[dcjoedog]

@pvtread Psst, it was Applebloom. That is all.

[LeonReal77]

As for that comment you found on Facebook. Yes, Celestia gave them that land to do what they wanted; that includes selling, giving away or wagering it. Also, Granny Smith is a farmer, not a politician. I can see how she's an important member of the community, but a leader?

[LeonReal77]

You really are expecting too much. I mean, it's a kids show. Just because adults like it, it doesn't mean it'll be geared towards them. The stories are supposed to be silly, predictable and, yes, often non-sensical. I don't watch them for the story, I watch them for fun.

[ShadowBlastAlpha]

Just saw a very good point from a comment on Facebook:

"Celestia gave that land to the Apple ponies. They can not lose it unless the goddess takes it away. Granny is actually the feudal lord of ponyville. F&F, aka the musicmakers, never had a chance."

[ShadowBlastAlpha]

Perhaps you're right, perhaps I've just come to expect more from the show. Nothing can be perfect after all, I shouldn't be so invested in the show.

[snowmanninja2]

I've watched this episode 3 times over, and it really does make sense.

I'm not joking when I say you missed some important details because you were too busy complaining.

[Gurgleschlortz]

Can you tell us when any of these ponies have EVER used common sense? No? I thought not.

[aztecsword12]

Think I might be able to clear up some things.

1-Their cider was apparently good due to Granny's reaction during the song, it went bad because they turned the quality controls off.

2-They said they would just buy the apples elsewhere and sell the Cider in Ponyville, which would still hurt the Apple's business.

3-They only produced so much due to their friend's help and they're working full tilt, not something they can do all month..

4-AJ didn't learn anything, she already knew the moral.

[Redshadowx1]

Wow, is it just me or are these episodes getting more towards targeting adults that children? The refrence that cider = alcohol... Not a bad episode though, I liked how desperate Dash was to get cider XD.

[Charmolution]

And don't forget that the brothers implied that they already have a supplier of apples somewhere else in Equestria, so the Apple Family not letting them use the apples at Sweet Apple Acres wouldn't have changed anything, they still would have put them out in the cold for the winter if they competed directly for cider season.

[ShadowBlastAlpha]

@Charmolution Nopony wants to see Sweet Apple Acres thrown out of Ponyville, there would have been help to keep them afloat if need be (just look what happened when just 6 were added in an hour). By any reasonable outcome they would still be okay, but they let their pride go and wager the whole farm for no reason when the Flim Flam brothers would have to buy their own apples out of town and bring it in each day. They were just trying to con them.

[Charmolution]

@ShadowBlastAlpha

Yes, on one day, with all of them working themselves to the bone, with 5 others helping them, they were able to just outpace the Flim Flams. But they wouldn't be able to keep that up everyday. The other ponies have lives, and we've seen that on an average day with the four of them working at a reasonable pace, they wouldn't stand a chance against the Flim Flam's machine in the long run.

[ShadowBlastAlpha]

@Charmolution Ugh, did you not read what I wrote or see what was shown? They did that for an HOUR, with just doubling their work force, and they were able to satisfy the ENTIRE town. I don't even know why I'm bothering.

[Charmolution]

@ShadowBlastAlpha

You say that they could have gotten help. From where? Again, these other ponies have lives and jobs, they can't spend their time bucking apples to help somepony for nothing. I mean, if there was a mom & pop store on the corner of your street that was down on their luck, even if you felt sorry for them, I don't think you'd quit your job and put your life on hold just on the off chance that you might be able to get them back on their feet.

[ShadowBlastAlpha]

@Charmolution You don't seem to comprehend the pony communities helpfulness when others are in need (thankful still intact up to this point in the series). Sweet Apple Acres is a beloved part of the town and the ponies love the Apples. You can bet some would help out every so often to keep them afloat if needed, or at the very least protest the Flim Flam brothers. They were simply greedy at the time, and all those who wouldn't get any from the farm could go to the Flim Flam's.

[Charmolution]

@ShadowBlastAlpha

You're probably right. But do you really think the Apple Family would be willing to leave it up to chance, that MAYBE the rest of Ponyville MIGHT be charitable and help them out after the Flim Flams start stealing all their business? And although AJ has learned a lot about accepting help from others, I'm betting the Apple Family as a whole is a proud and independent one, and would not want to be getting by on what is essentially, welfare, provided by the town.

[Charmolution]

@ShadowBlastAlpha

And this problem, like many others on the show, have seemingly obvious solutions to us, who are viewing it as outsiders looking in. But in their position, this was something that needed to be resolved right then and there. They weren't going to sit on their hooves and hope for the best, that's not how the Apple Family does things. They took action, and in their overconfidence, underestimated the Flim Flam's machine, losing the competition.

[ShadowBlastAlpha]

@Charmolution Eh... That only goes so far with me. You might be more forgiving of the situation, but for me that type of irresponsible behavior has no excuse. Especially since they have shown to have more common sense in the past, when pride wasn't involved anyway. And that goes for the Flim Flam brothers too. They said they didn't care how many ponies helped and then everything went down hill when they tried to cut corners :|

[aztecsword12]

@ShadowBlastAlpha I think it was more along the lines of them defending the farm's future. If they didn't, the brothers would've just sold cider at a cheaper price than the farm would be able to compete with. That's exactly what companies in a capitalist society do, run the competition out with lower prices, then raise them once the competition is gone. The brothers were willing to sell 2 cups per cent, which was much less than the Apple family was selling for.

[aztecsword12]

@ShadowBlastAlpha They didn't outright bid the farm, they bid the rights for cider making. However, the farm needed the money from cider to last the winter when they can't produce any income. Without that income, the farm would've been forced into foreclosure for not being able to pay its taxes. Of course they could just sell the apples, but I assume cider has a much larger profit margin.

[Charmolution]

How were they being stupid? The episode already established that it would be bad if they either joined up with them or competed with them directly, so rather than choose either of those, they pulled a Jim Kirk out of the no-win scenario and took the third option. By agreeing to this competition, they'd only have to train and work hard for this one day to beat them and get them out of their lives forever. Of course, they failed because they underestimated the power of the Flim Flam's machine.

[TheRandomkid321]

i ha dthe EXACT same reaction to when they said they dont care if all of canterlot helps. PRINCESS FRIGGEN CELESTIA!? AE THEY FRICKIGN STUPID!?

[TheRandomkid321]

I oticed rainbow never got her money back the first time.

[jewifeifei]

2:57 anyone catch the BTTF reference?

[AshCrafting]

It Actually Reminds Me Of The Paul Bunyan Story, Not As Much As John Henry

[toxicXmouse]

who would dislike YOUR reaction videos?! >:(

[ShadowBlastAlpha]

@toxicXmouse People who disagree with my opinions probably. But that is to be expected because I clearly showed my dissatisfaction in this episode. It's all good though, people are allowed to show their options after all. I just hope the show's creators go back to their roots, so to speak.