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  • What is the most important thing to consider when cutting snare beds? depth? width? etc

  • @scott111193 You have included what matters most with cutting snares beds. Depth and Width. You want enough room for the snare wires to fit snug and flush without is being to tight choking the snare wires or to loose obviously. Our specs that work for all size snares 1/4 deep by 5-6 inches wide.

  • who's playing? it sounds to me like Bozzio or maybe Wackerman, what's the name of the song?

  • @asel1124 Terry Bozzio has a Japanese collection that this track came from. Good ear!

  • how could i have this same kit? how long does it take to make it and ship it to me. and do yall offer this in birch or just maple? Because im looking for a snare such as this.

  • @TheWordChurch08 Thanks for asking! We have a lead time of about 16 weeks right now for Super Solids which are made from Maple wood. You best chance to getting one sooner is too check with your local authorized DW drums dealer.

    ://dwdr(dotms/v7qPFu

  • who mutch does this cost :/ i live in Denmark and just the engerning of the dum is ekspensiv, but + the shipping and the 'told' this sounds very ekspensiv.. :/

  • @tokewarming It is always best to check with your local authorized DW drums dealer. We do not do any pricing or sales direct from the factory here. Sorry for any inconvenience and thanks so much for watching!

    ://dwdr(dot)ms/v7qPFu

  • Amazing!! I just bought an older dw/craviotto snare and a edge snare.and now I'm selling all my Yama?? Gear .it not only makes me play better,but I hear way more clarity in my music.thanks for being an amazing artists as well.

    Im also looking at a super solid and the 13" steel snare.amazing!!!

  • @19731973Scott Nice! Sounds like you are getting stocked up on the DW snares. :) We are very happy to hear that you are enjoying your DW snares!

    The Super Solid and the Steel snare are a great choice also!

  • How is that wood bending technology called? I'd like to know more about it, but I don't find anything searching for "molecular compression". So-called "compwood" process is something similar, is this the technology that you use for these drums?

  • @Parkinson9999 Great question! Yes it very similar to the "compwood" technology. As long as the compwood people are using steam. :)

  • One piece shell?! Does that mean no layers at all?!

  • @diegochangos One piece of wood only! We couldn't call it a Super Solid if not. :)

  • @DrumWorkshopInc how about making a "super solid" metal shell??

    like copper, bronze, aluminium, brass, steel....

    it would be an awesome heavy and loud sound!

  • @BennexD We hear you! Our metals shells are not to far off from that now. :)

  • do all kits have the super solid shells

  • @JoshTinkler Just the snares you see in this video. We do not make full kits our solid shells.

  • have you ever thought of making a Super Solid drum kit? where all the shells are Super Solid?

    or an Edge kit where all the shells have brass edges on them?

    i wonder what it would sound like! :)

  • @MadHatGamer2 We have experimented with similar ideas but they all haven't panned out as well as we wanted. We are always at the "drawing board" though. Thanks for your suggestions!

  • Dear DrumWorkshop, I need a part number for the DW Woofer mounting system, the one that consists of 4 tom brackets and two 1/2in rods. I need these in black, but my local dealer cant find them and nothing came up online. thanks

  • @Leona197 DRSPDBBC. Order them up! We got plenty in stock! Thanks for choosing DW!

  • @DrumWorkshopInc well, i just wanted to know because i was wondering if it's possible to use soft wood on drums, without breaking them.

  • @killjoyshidae1208 Well the plies we use for example for a Collectors kit are soft but glued together than cooked. After they are cooled they become harder and durable for life. With the Super Solid it is the opposite where we have hardwood that we make soft to shape into a snare form. :)

  • When I get really fucking rich, I'll buy myself a DW.

  • @WhyTheHorseface i tried to get in the app on fb, but it keeps on saying a error has occured, i don't know what's wrong

  • can this process make soft wood hard enough to play on drums? because it would be interesting to use japanese maple on a snare drum

  • @killjoyshidae1208 Well we guess it could. The point more for this video Shidae is to show how we can bend harder woods into a snare.

  • have you ever thought of doing solid shells on other drums? like tom, kick,etc?

  • @killjoyshidae1208 We have looked into before for R&D but we have liked the sound of plied shells for toms and bass drums mostly. Great question!

  • @killjoyshidae1208 If you 'friend' DW on facebook, you can view a prototype kit similar to what you described. It was sent to a swedish pro drummer and he posted pix. Very cool stuff. I love DW drums.

  • @WhyTheHorseface Shidae is the man!

  • Dear DW! I purchased a SuperSolid Snare drum a couple of months ago, as I replaced the heads, I noticed that the bearing edge of the batter side has dents from the stick hitting the shell. I have never had this problem before, could it be a broblem with the hoop or the design of the shell? I am somewhat disapointed because my new snare drum has crippled edges. Would this be covered under warranty?

  • @Leona197 So sorry to hear that. Please bring your Super Solid back to the dealer you purchased it from and have your dealer contact our Customer Service department toll free at 1-800-45-Drums ext. 450. Our Customer Service guys can speak with your dealer about the next step to getting a remedy for your snare.

  • It was love at first time. Thank you John Good for the video how to tune all drum sell

  • @Pmrs745 Your welcome! Thanks for watching!

  • I'm neither a Thomas Lang. I had other drum. But none like DW. But I was lucky to get into the guitar center on right time to hear them play tha drum

  • Sorry last text. I want to know. Is the sound is different between finish ply and collector series? My drum kit is black diamond I believe is finish ply. When I add two more toms 7/8 and 14/16 you guys send me with white badge collector series. All my drum kit has a black badge

  • @Pmrs745 No worries! Your Finish Ply kit is a Collector's Series. The finish ply will not affect the sound of your shell. We have since changed the design of our badges. Sorry about that. Black Diamond is great finish. Good choice!

  • I want to know. Is the sound is deference between finish ply and collector series? My drum kit is black diamond I bo ISVs

  • @DrumWorkshopInc can you do ssc on super solid?

  • @killjoyshidae1208 Great question! The solid shells are one solid piece of wood without plies basically so we can not apply the SSC technology to these types of shells. The SSC works for shells with a ply configuration. Meaning that with different amounts of plies and varying grain patterns within those plies together make up SSC. Hope that makes sense. Can be a little tech sometimes to explain. :)

  • @DrumWorkshopInc I noticed that these snares are made with the wood in horizontal grain, could you make it vertical grain with the same technology?

  • @asel2000 No unfortunately not. If you see the explanation I gave above for the SSC question it definitely applies. The Super Solids being one piece of wood make them to hard to work with to alter the natural grain pattern they already have. Sorry!

  • Hello, can you guys tell me what kind of snare bed you cut on these snare drums. I know you don't want to give away secrets, but i would like to know if you cut a wide and shallow bed, or a deep narrow bed. Also do you cut a bearing edge on the snare bed?

    Thanks very much

    Scott

  • @scott111193 Hi Scott, I don't have the exact specifications, but I just took a look at a Super Solid on the assembly line and I can tell you the snare bed is more of the wide and shallow type with a very slight bearing edge. thank You!

  • @DrumWorkshopInc Thank you. I thought it would be, most of the dw's i've seen have a similar snare bed, wide. Thanks. Scott

  • Hello DW drums. Can you tell me where you get your triple flanged hoops from? they are a lovely shape. They are the rounder ones, which don't bend as easily i find. I find they are stronger. Where abouts do you get yours from?

    Scott

  • @scott111193 glad you like them. You can order them from any Authorized DW Drum Dealer (use the Dealer Locator at dwdrums(dot)com). For US customers, we do not currently have those hoops for sale online, but if you contact our Online Sales Coordinator Jon Dewey: jond@dwdrums(dot)com or 1-800-45-DRUMS (ask for Jon Dewey). Have you explored our new True Hoops? They are somewhat of a cross between Die Cast and Triple Flange, and very round (stick friendly). see more here bit(dot)ly/dwcolhwfeats

  • I LOVE DW

  • @kijkenify love you too :)

  • Is there a way (any way) to hear what the 15" model sounds like? I only heard it mention once in the '90s (I believe it was an all maple) and once in a forum lately (a super solid one), but I never saw or heard it once. The KitBuilder 2.0 doesn't have a sample either. So it has become the stuff of legend to me. Is there any way I could hear or sample one beside ordering one myself?

  • @giulienk thanks for your interest. I'll see what I can do about sampling a 15 for ya. Any particular depth you'd like to hear?

  • @DrumWorkshopInc The Super Solid 15x5,5" would be nice, but really any model between 5" and 7" would be really interesting. Thanks a lot :)

  • @giulienk turns out, 15s are VERY rare. Still keeping an eye out for ya.

  • I can smell the wood trimmings through the screen.

  • @zeptimp mmmm...they are delicious.

  • Got mine today, a 14x5.5 with a 3/4 thick shell. Guitar Center gave me a free skb case and some sticks for 720 us dollars. I'm wondering what the actual cost is to make these drums.

  • @Leona197 that's awesome! congrats. what finish? sounds like a good deal ;)

  • @DrumWorkshopInc Natural wood finish, with chrome hardware. I will make a video review in a couple of days.

  • Hello. So is the shell glued in the traditional way? like, you shape the two edges at an angle so they mutch together and you glue them?, like the traditional make, but no hoops glued, so there is more resonance to the shell....i guess. Thanks.

  • @Dimitrispanayides I believe you are correct 

  • DW & John Good deserve every penny they earn, no other manufacturer love or push the boundaries of their products, like they do... they are 20,000 leagues above any other company, go DW !

  • Brother's & Sister's, i'd just like to say without a doubt the DrumWorkshop Super Solid 5.5 X 14, 3/4" Snare Drum is a work of art. The sound is simply outstanding from the lightest touch to a thunderous drum roll. And the finish that I requested ( Natural Curly Maple is a sight to see )......Much Kudos to John Good & Bo Mathew's @ DrumWorkshop for making it all possible. Thanks Guy's !

  • @TheLogitech25 Thank you so much for the kind words! Glad to hear of your satisfaction. enjoy!

  • Interesting video!

  • Id like to see you make and sell some banjo rims using that technology !

  • Do the thicker sections at the top and bottom of the shell actually act as reinforcing hoops in the traditional manner? You say that the shell doesn't want to pop out like a traditional stem bent shell. They're part of the shell so aren't they just thicker sections of shell material? Or is it due to the extra glue area that they provide?

  • @Mjbabycakes7072 great questions. It's true that due to the unique bending process, the shell doesn't want to spring out of round. So the thick sections are not primarily for strength. Instead, they primarily function as sound enhancers, pushing more vibrational energy to the center of the shell giving a punch, more focused sound which DW Drums are famous for. Because the hoops are all part of the solid shell (not glued in), there is no more extra glu than if they were not there at all.

  • I got a matching 3/8th's supersolid with my new kit. It's the best sounding maple snare drum I have ever heard. Super sensitive, and gets explosively loud and cutting.

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  • Very cool John! I can totally identify with this, looking forward to seeing you at NAMM

  • can anyone tell me what that type of cutter head on their cnc is called?

  • just seeing that snare to the left of you makes me want to get a dw snare, but the problem is, is that i dont have any money :(, i hope to get a snare though!!

  • oohh! come on dw

    why is it that when a huge brand uses a new method they claim to have created it!?

    it really annoys the hell out of me; i mean, you totally destroyed strandford name, craviotto aswell...

    same with yamaha, that "high end" drumset phoenix are just plywood!

    COME ON!

    come on! really!

  • ill bet youll claim aswell the segmented and the true solid shells to be yours aswell!

    and later on youll claim the woodhoops to have been your innovative idea!

  • you should sponsor me ;) hahaha

  • Hello DrumWorkshopInc, I have a question about color matching drums. I would like to order a Super Solid DW snare drum, and would like it to match my current drums. Back in 2006, I ordered a 22x8 woofer for my bass drum. The color of the woofer matches my bass drum in the studio, but in daylight it’s a much lighter shade. Is there any way to fix this? How can I be sure that my snare drum will be matched in color? Thank you so much!!

  • @Leona197 Sorry to hear about the colormatch in 06. We have our customers send in a drum that they want us to match, and we get as close as possible. If the customer is not satisfied, they can send the drum back, and we'll try again. Keep in mind, the new shell's wood may be a slightly different color to start with, so there is no exact science to matching. Have you tried contacting our customer service dept? The should be able to help you 1-800-45-DRUMS or customerservice@dwdrums.com

  • @Leona197 that said...if you send in the smallest tom from your kit, we can get the new SuperSolid snare to match it. Again, contact our CS dept. They are experts at interfacing between our painters and our customers. They can even send you swatches to make sure you approve before we pain your new drum. We look forward to making your new SuperSolid!

  • I just bought one in a 3/8" X4.5 nickel finish hardware and hoops with black cracked glass. Its everything you said it would be and is really a great drum. All I get is compliments on the looks and the sound. I have one question. How do you get the seam welded together?

  • @Lorriane48 secret alien technology mixed with ancient voodoo spells. ;)

    Congrats on the new snare! Glad to hear it walks the walk.

  • @Lorriane48 Put up a video of your drum?

  • How come the depth stops at 5.5 on the Super Solid series?

  • @HoldenMcG as you see in the video, making these snares requires some very specific machinery. We have been experimenting with other depths, but to start we went for the most popular depths (based on what most people order from us). I am sure we will make some deeper ones in the future. I agree, a 6.5" would be nice ;)

  • @DrumWorkshopInc Thanks for the reply. Would really like to try/buy a 6.5" ... I know they also work on wider materials with the CNC machine (like rims for instance... and the vid looks like it's got plenty of room) , so to ask the same question a different way, are there any concrete plans slated for near future for producing greater depths?

  • @HoldenMcG after asking the best sources, I found out that it's actually not limited by the CNC machine, but rather the machine that compresses the wood and creates the blank (not shown in video). There is only one of those machines in the entire USA, and it can only do a maximum of 5.5 inches depth. So it is not likely that you will see a 6.5" Super Solid any time soon...BUT

    this is a big reason why we made the Super Solid Edge.

    dwdrums(dot)com/snares/coll-wo­od(dot)asp#supersolidedge

    ;)

  • @DrumWorkshopInc Thanks for the reply. I think I'll pick up a Super Solid in favor of the Edge as the SS is truly a unique one piece!

  • I wish I had a DW Snare drum, but the cheapest one is 3000$

  • @ZinayH well then you'll be happy to know that DW snares range from $764 (FinishPly Collector's Series ) to $1699 (Exotic Edge) LIST, which means the retail or "street" price will be SIGNIFICANTLY less.

    Super Solid's LIST for $1299 to 1699. Remember , the actual price will be much less.

    Contact your local dealer for exact pricing:

    drum.know-where(dot)com/drum/

    Happy shopping! We hope your wish comes true ;) thanks for the interest.

  • is the 3/4" shell thickness drum recommended for more 'sensitive' playing for the Birkenstock/wheat grass juice demographic? Kidding aside -- I play a lot of brushes/softer gigs but I'm intrigued by this instrument. Good for the softer end of the spectrum as well as blasting zones w/ Marshall stax?

  • I just noticed that you only offer the Super Solid in 14x5.5, is there a specific reason for that? I was thinking maybe its because the shell would have too much stress on it (with 5.5" depth it already needs 4 vent holes!), am I anywhere close? Anyways, even if I'm wrong, whats the reason? Take your time! :)

  • @Salzcamino thanks for the question (you always have good ones)! As you see in the video, this is a CNC process that requires custom tooling and programming for different sizes. We currently offer 3 different thicknesses, but yes, only 1 shell dimension (14x5.5). We are experimenting with different sizes all the time, and it is likely that we will introduce some new ones in the near future. It is not a stress issue. We came out with just the one size as an introduction. more to come!

  • @DrumWorkshopInc Alright, thanks for the answer! I wasn't really thinking about the stress issue, but I just kinda threw it out just in case! :). I was thinking it could be something related to the CNC or something like that, thanks for telling me! I await to hear (unfortunately only threw the speakers on a PC) how different depths will perform!

  • @Salzcamino Funny you should ask this...we just had a big update here at the workshop. Super Solid snares are NOW AVAILABLE in:

    4.5x13

    4.5x14

    4.5x15

    5.5x13

    5.5x14

    5.5x15

  • @DrumWorkshopInc Sorry for the late reply, I JUST got the hang of the new inbox system with Youtube. That's great news :).

  • Simply amazing! DWs the best in my opinion.

  • So when I order my DW super solid snare (3/4), I'm sure it will come with a gps locater, like LoJack. I mean... just incase someone at a gig *mistakes* the case for their bag... am I right?

  • John Good, you sir, are a genius. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. DW/PDP (I use the PDP X7 double bass set) is the greatest brand of drums I've ever played in my 18 years.

  • Why do you have to add reinforcement hoops? Aren't reinforcement hoops put to help it to not spring out? Well this is one piece, I don't see why the reinforcement hoops are needed. Please inform me! :D

  • @Salzcamino that's a good question! It is there more for sound, than structural reinforcement. Adding weight to the top and bottom of the shell via reinforcement hoop both increases the tension and resonant pitch of the shell, as well as delivers a more focused sound.

  • @DrumWorkshopInc I just spoke with Mr. Good himself to confirm my answer, and while I was correct, he assured me the integrated reinforcement hoop does provide extra strength as well as give extra attack (initial "crack") and enhanced tone. The tension on the top and bottom send more energy into the middle of the drum (where all the tone is). There you have it!

  • @DrumWorkshopInc That makes more sense! Thank god. Now I know DW does everything in perfect sense! :)

    As well as I know that the person answering my questions on YouTube isn't just a person put there to "make us happy". I love DW without even buying a single drum from them ; )

  • @Salzcamino haha. Well, I do like to make you happy, but via truth and good information. We really value the dialog that goes on here, as well as the people who create it. Social networking is just one of my many duties here (although it probably could be a full-time job on its own), but I take it very seriously, and more than anything, I just enjoy preaching the gospel of DW ;) I'm a believer and a hooked user. Thanks for the love! Right back at ya.

  • @DrumWorkshopInc Ahhh! The awesomeness! Taking social networking seriously! Haven't seen a company so keen to do the same other than Sabian cymbals :)

  • DW, please finish the "john good gallery" on the dw website. I want to see so bad.

  • @tameemz90 Noted! Yes, we are all very anxious to launch that. We are in the process of photographing the veneer swatches right now :)

  • John Good is a genius and i'm proud to own a DW drumset now. I would like to meet him when i come to NAMM one day!

  • Give this comment a thumbs up if you hate the new youtube setup

  • What's the differnce between a Craviotto, Super Solid and Regular Solid?

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  • John,

    I just bought a Collector's Series solid shell snare. 751911 Eb jun 4 2008 Stamped on the inside of the shell. It only has 1 vent hole. What kind of shell do I have? Is it the steambent, Craviotto, or what? It sounds amazing!

  • yes indeed, you have a Craviotto. An yes, they do sound amazing.

  • ONE PLY STEAMBENT

    AND

    SOLID

    are different things...

  • If the shell no longer wants spring back its original shape, is the re-ring cut necessary or does it serve a different purpose? Could you make these shells with a consistent shell thickness? If so, how thin could they be cut and still retain strength under tension of drum heads?

  • great question. I forwarded it to JG himself. He's on a wood hunt right now, but as soon as I hear back, I will post his response. Cheers!

  • We want the mass at the top and bottom to ensure roundness as best we can. JG

    We currently only offer the 3 thicknesses, but are always experimenting with new ideas.

  • how much are we talkin... LOL

  • $700 and up, depending on the finish, etc

  • Wow, John Good is just amazing. Very innovative. Already changed drum history!

    Keep up the amazing work John!

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  • nope! true solid shells is the real new era, sorry!

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  • Nobody, you just made a mistake and I corrected it. That's all folks!

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  • Wow... this is really awesome.. I didn't know anything about wood bending.. what an interesting video to watch... I gotta hear this drum!

  • @jellitunes Probably the best sounding snares I have ever heard. I heard a Yamaha Steve Jordan snare and it blew me away. I heard a maple Super Solid and the Yamaha sounded like a cheap trash-can snare. If you have the cash buy one without hesitation. Of course these things are mondo expensive but hey, for once you get what you pay for.

  • @wowintosh awesome!! that sounds awesome.. the next time i go out to a sam ash or one of those places, i'll be checking these drums out!

  • Point taken. The trouble is that the wholle mastery of making a drum is finding a cooperative plank (or a trunk). What Mr. Good is missing, along with other exec from Yamaha and Pearl etc, is that the art of making a drum should be more attentative to drums that used to be produced before mics allowed mass production of ply drums. Simple, natural, resonant and affordable. These corporate guys are trying to reinvent a wheel every other season.

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  • holy shit this is really cool!

    i worked with a lot of cnc machines, did steam bending, laminating.. this is something else!

    really curious about that sound!

    great work DW!

  • This is not at all a "truly one piece solid shell"!!! This is just steam bent shell. God! even the name is false! (super solid)

  • Why the hell should bending a single cut piece of wood not make it a single-ply solid shell? You don't know nothing about professional drum construction man.

  • Second, a solid shell does not have a joint neither glue. Why the hell would a "super solid" shell have those two volume reducers?

    Thirdly, the same site reffered to above says this: "This shell type utilizes reinforcement rings at each bearing edge, necessary to stabilize the shell (as shown in the picture). Because of this, they aren't truly a single-ply shell at all."

  • To conclude, shut up until you know what you're talking about, man. Those shells might be great, but 1. not as good as a true solid shell and 2. wrongly named.

    Peace!

  • You are such a stupid dick. Why the hell do you think you know more than rest of us. We genuinely love drums and playing them. Why are you such an aragonat know all twat, ask me that. Ps don't think that IO haven't seen your rude crappy ltter thingy you post to me. Well bloody done. Bye.

  • Ok. First, I don't think I know more than the rest of the drumming community. I'm just curious and get the information I need, wich not everybody do(especially begginers). There are a lot of lies out there just waiting to catch you and your money!

  • I just bought a Luka snare drum (wich is solid) and began to get curious about other solid shells. Then, I realized there was a lot of companies that were offering "solid" shells. There, I saw a site explaining all types of shells (solid/steambent) and I got wtf because most of the companies that were saying "solid shell" were big lies like those of DW and Craviotto. I'm not saying they aren't great, they just aren't true "solid" shell.

  • What's the difference between dw super solid , and the craviotto one?

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  • increibleeeeeeeee!!!.... POR DIOSSS QUIERO UNO. PERO SALE TAN CARO.. 700 USD MINIMO.

  • i saw one of these at a guitar center today. i hit it once, swear to god i got goosebumps. if i had the money, id definitely buy one.

  • sounds like Neil Peart playing in the background, and exquisitely recorded I might add.

  • That's just crazy

  • This snare is incredible! I work at THE DRUM SHOP in PORTLAND MAINE, and this is one of the most sensitive snares out there definitely check one out!

  • mind BLASTING.

  • Wonderfully informative presentation of some mind-blowing technology!!! Thanks for sharing it

  • Nice, that was a really cool presentation in a non presentation kinda way! I'm going to have to try one of these bad boys out!

    Stick from Monkey Lord

  • it's amazing!

  • That just BLEW MY MIND!

  • You encourage me to buy one because iit is more money in your pocket lol

  • I should point out, this isn't a true solid shell. This is just a steam bent shell.

    Granted, it's still phenomenal, but there is still one glue joint.

  • you really don't know what you're talking about... there's a lot more to how this works than just steam bending.

    yes, there is a glue joint but you'd have a shit time finding a 14" diameter piece of maple that you could hollow out to be a true solid drum.

    Not to mention the wasted wood.

  • Look for the Oregon Drum company. They make solid shell drums.

  • they do carve snare drums outta solid wood...Brady does it

  • man! At last somebody who know what he's talking about! Vive les solid shells!

  • @BTCSUK I think what they mean when they SUPER Solid is about the wood compresion, and it really is ONE pice shell, yes its glued, but I think it would be very hard to cut a maple three, and then cut the center, and it may not sound good.

  • Street price on the super solid is about $800. It's awesome.

  • Who's got a spare $2-3 thousand !!

  • He speaks well.

  • I love DW, just wish I could afford them

  • @Supercow909 i agree man. i used their kit builder to build my dream kit, and it ended up costing over 11k, including hardware and all that junk. it's an awesome kit though

  • Boy, if my band ever make it big, I can guarantee you that I will be with DW for life!

  • same here if my band makes it big i also will own dw and only dw!

  • cuanto cuesta esta tarola ? , how much ?....

  • Well, I ordered it through The Drum Shop in Portland Maine. They are excellent to work with and have great prices. Call them at 207-874-6630. I don't want to give a price quote for them, but they had by far the best price out of the three shops I called.

  • what is the price of the snaer

  • Sorry, I ordered it LAST week

  • I ordered one of these SuperSolids this week. I heard today that DW is already working on it. Can't wait to get it. I had planned to order a VLT snare until I saw and heard this one!

  • you MUST post a video of how it sounds.

  • a supersolid kit would be interesting indeed! ;)

  • i propose a name for that kit: "Super-steambent kit" that is a appropriated name.

  • relax man, no one said you had to like it, truth is, it's fascinating no matter what you think of it