These guys can't threaten to leave if they don't get their money, because there is no place to go. There is no where in the world that pays money like we pay executives. Where are they going to go - France, Britain, Germany, Japan? They won't get a fraction of what they get here. There is no where for them to go.
You suggested that Tim Ryan get shot, which tells me that either you like giving all your hard earned cash to corporations, or you work for AIG. (Or you drank the kool aid from FOX).
Boy this guy is really forward thinking about the consequences his unconstitutional bill. Because of this bill, no investor is going to touch these toxic assets that the Obama admin is begging the private sector to help purchase from the banks. Investors dont know what congress will do if they get involved with government so many are just opting to stay away. Also everyone is resigning from AIG and many major banks .I guess Obama can get a financial czar. Bye bye freedom hello fascism
Here's what's pissing me off. This is a fuck up. It's obvious. Now that's pissed me off really bad. But what really really pisses me off is the republicans are blocking the bill to tax the bonus so that this nonsense goes on as long as possible to make the democrats look as bad as possible. WHAT THE FUCK. STOP PLAYING POLITICS AND GET MY MOTHERFUCKING MONEY BACK NOW OR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START DYING. I DON'T CARE WHICH PARTY IT IS GET MY MOTHER FUCKING MONEY BACK NOW. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE.
Thank god my boy from Youngstown, Ohio somone who understands how much deep shit we are in ..cus our town have real fucking problems..and we dont live in ivory white conditions..our valley is destroyed by corporate greed and a Poorly run GM factory With Poorly made cars...thats the number one downfall of our valley and our area ...understand real life problems unlike the mentally retarded Republican Rich as hell white side that know NOTHING bout working in a factory or steel mill or Tire factory
You think you've got problems now? Because of people like this idiot, businesses and rich people are leaving this country in droves. These people dont have to put up with this shit and they aren't going to. So this hatred towards business the Obama admin has fostered has unintended consequences that will be felt by every American. They have made recovery impossible. The people with the cash and knowledge to run industry are gone, and they aint coming back. US=S Africa, Zimbabwe
You mean the people who were exporting American jobs to second/third world countries and setting up tax havens overseas? The experts and intellectuals who ran their companies into the ground? They're gonna leave this country? Do you really mean it? Where are they gonna go if the world economy fails? Who are they gonna peddle their sh*t to now? They should've been driven out long before they could loot this country. Maybe they'll let you tag along jjr. They'll always need new sheep.
No, I was against all the bailouts for this very reason. We shouldn't even be having this conversation and wouldn't be if government had just stayed out of the free market and let the failing business fail.
You crack me up bud... so we're supposed to worry that the guys that completely destroyed our country's economy might leave it and not come back?
Oh man, sorry if I'm having a hard time finding a downside to that proposition... I say good riddance, and don't let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.
And it's not 'hatred toward business', it's guys that got rewarded for fucking up... is that concept too hard for you to understand? Ah... Republican I see. Never mind.
Can't go back retroactively to 2008? The IRS does it every year! Bullshit!
It really doesn't matter though, the dollar will crash and they will have millions of worthless pieces of paper... Most of our countries wealth has been taken off shore already by the banksters... We will have to revolt to get anything fixed... Talk is cheap...
Fuckin financial system is Going to collapse --Shti it's already collapsed --only Ratt Fucks who have jobs are LOCAL -STATE and FEDERAL employees who never get fired --fuckin Socialized Country.
"Acting with lightning speed, the Democratic-led House has approved a bill to slap punishing taxes on big employee bonuses from firms bailed out by taxpayers. The vote was 328-93.
The bill would levy a 90 percent tax on bonuses paid to employees with family incomes above $250,000 at companies that have received at least $5 billion in government bailout money."
The bad news is your insurance is no good, the good news is the the insurance executive are unbelievably wealthy now, and congress is secretly rooting for them. At the behest of the treasury department at the behest of the Federal Reserve at the behest of the Obama Administration Chris Dodd spilled out the rich people bonuses. This is the kind of thing that makes you want to say: HMMMM!!!
none of the crap they are doing is going to fix anything. all they ever do is patch work that will break down again in the years to come .the people that are going to be screwed and struggle to keep their heads above water will be screwed again maybe not them but their kids will be. it is so sad
Do the Dodd story. He was blaming parties unknown "hand over fist" for putting the bonus clause in the bail out bill; then he finally spilled and changed his "version" when he was incontrovertably singled out. "Weak sauce"!! Somebody else did it when he was not looking at the last second when he was unable to check and recheck!
Truth doesn't come out of congress; they get special courses on how to create a false front. AIG is a way to divert, funnel and collect. They probably have some fail safe way to stash the cash. Insurance is the biggest scam anyway.
The income tax code has does not subscribe to the constituion anyway from what i understand, so take the damn money back already. Why not censure Dodd while about it? He did not make a mistake; more than likely he got some kind of bonus himself.
100% Tax on bonuses? Can they really do that? Does this set up some bad precedent? What will this do about future executive compensation issues? And why did they allow this compensation system in the first place? Did Rep. Ryan vote on a bill that he never read?
We have to get to the point that pension fund managers are sticking to more conservative investing strategies so that worrying about everyone's grandparents isn't the excuse for why we need to rescue the financial sector.
So what his great plan now? Oh yeah we'll just tax these CEO's to get the money back right?!
Yeah FUCK THAT. MAKE THEM GIVE THE MONEY BACK NOW or stick their heads in a gulliotine.
Ryan is just DYING to suck geithner's balls and cover for him anyway he can.
Plus the way things REALLY work in congress in a bill is written one way and then changed right before the vote. Which I bet is EXACTLY what ryan is planning.
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Ryan is Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! Palin is a SUPERIOR politician and statesman than Ryan could ever be. She is also MORE MAN than he is. Ryan wears the skirt in his family while his wife wears the pants! There is nothing Ryan can do to stop the AIG bonuses. The money will never come back. This AIG faux pas will lead to an Obambi 1 term EPIC FAIL and a 2 term Sarah Palin EPIC SUCCESS!
Come on - Geithner didn't "make a mistake" - he was criminally negligent. It was *obvious* that this would happen, and even if it wasn't, there is absolutely no rational basis for the "no strings attached" policy that he so carelessly advocated.
They haven't been, and it's unconstitutional because you could tax anyone anything for anything they've ever made that way.
If they decided that they wanted to raise taxes and make some extra money, would you be sending in a check for taxes you didn't have to pay the first time around?
I like how no one ever reads the question and thinks about it they just react. Your answer is complete bs because its not a reason why it would be unconstitutional. What is unconstitutional are things that are prohibited by the constitution not by what is fair or not fair. If you can find in the constitution where it prohibits this then please respond and be helpful to my question, if not please keep your bs nonargument to yourself.
In some cases, retroactive taxation has been ruled a violation of the Due Process Clause of the 5th Amendment - especially where it's been deemed unduly harsh or arbitrary. This is not always the case however, such as in U.S. vs. Carlton (1994) when the Supreme Court unanimously ruled in favor of the constitutionality of a retroactive tax in that particular situation.
see response to the above, I had a real question and I did not misunderstand what was said in the interview. If you can point in the constitution where it prohibits retroactive taxes please tell me and I will concede the point. Not that the constitution means anything after the Bush administration did a Fritzl on it.
These guys can't threaten to leave if they don't get their money, because there is no place to go. There is no where in the world that pays money like we pay executives. Where are they going to go - France, Britain, Germany, Japan? They won't get a fraction of what they get here. There is no where for them to go.
blueboyblue 9 months ago
Dear Tim Ryan. please get shot
blackhawkwm 1 year ago
@blackhawkwm
Do you work for AIG?
Mewstor151 1 year ago
@Mewstor151 No
blackhawkwm 1 year ago
@blackhawkwm
Do you hold stock in AIG?
Mewstor151 1 year ago
@Mewstor151 Dude im only 16 hahaha. Wow...
blackhawkwm 1 year ago
@blackhawkwm
Do you like giving money to AIG millionaires?
You suggested that Tim Ryan get shot, which tells me that either you like giving all your hard earned cash to corporations, or you work for AIG. (Or you drank the kool aid from FOX).
Mewstor151 1 year ago
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Ryan is puppet for Pelosi he is more worried about her agenda than what his constituents really want!
Vote for Jim Graham (R) if you live in the 17th District and you will be heard!!
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ANGELBLU2042 2 years ago
Ben Benacke and Paulson needs to go.
z3277465 2 years ago
Boy this guy is really forward thinking about the consequences his unconstitutional bill. Because of this bill, no investor is going to touch these toxic assets that the Obama admin is begging the private sector to help purchase from the banks. Investors dont know what congress will do if they get involved with government so many are just opting to stay away. Also everyone is resigning from AIG and many major banks .I guess Obama can get a financial czar. Bye bye freedom hello fascism
jjrglobal 2 years ago
Ryan is the man
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Here's what's pissing me off. This is a fuck up. It's obvious. Now that's pissed me off really bad. But what really really pisses me off is the republicans are blocking the bill to tax the bonus so that this nonsense goes on as long as possible to make the democrats look as bad as possible. WHAT THE FUCK. STOP PLAYING POLITICS AND GET MY MOTHERFUCKING MONEY BACK NOW OR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START DYING. I DON'T CARE WHICH PARTY IT IS GET MY MOTHER FUCKING MONEY BACK NOW. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE.
a7241982 2 years ago
Taxation at it's best.
bgrawhot 2 years ago
Thank god my boy from Youngstown, Ohio somone who understands how much deep shit we are in ..cus our town have real fucking problems..and we dont live in ivory white conditions..our valley is destroyed by corporate greed and a Poorly run GM factory With Poorly made cars...thats the number one downfall of our valley and our area ...understand real life problems unlike the mentally retarded Republican Rich as hell white side that know NOTHING bout working in a factory or steel mill or Tire factory
rockdiga 2 years ago 2
You think you've got problems now? Because of people like this idiot, businesses and rich people are leaving this country in droves. These people dont have to put up with this shit and they aren't going to. So this hatred towards business the Obama admin has fostered has unintended consequences that will be felt by every American. They have made recovery impossible. The people with the cash and knowledge to run industry are gone, and they aint coming back. US=S Africa, Zimbabwe
jjrglobal 2 years ago
You mean the people who were exporting American jobs to second/third world countries and setting up tax havens overseas? The experts and intellectuals who ran their companies into the ground? They're gonna leave this country? Do you really mean it? Where are they gonna go if the world economy fails? Who are they gonna peddle their sh*t to now? They should've been driven out long before they could loot this country. Maybe they'll let you tag along jjr. They'll always need new sheep.
similaritiesendhere 2 years ago
That makes you a facism cheerleader
cobramark8 2 years ago
No, I was against all the bailouts for this very reason. We shouldn't even be having this conversation and wouldn't be if government had just stayed out of the free market and let the failing business fail.
jjrglobal 2 years ago
jjrglobal
You crack me up bud... so we're supposed to worry that the guys that completely destroyed our country's economy might leave it and not come back?
Oh man, sorry if I'm having a hard time finding a downside to that proposition... I say good riddance, and don't let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.
And it's not 'hatred toward business', it's guys that got rewarded for fucking up... is that concept too hard for you to understand? Ah... Republican I see. Never mind.
dorkboyofbaelgun 2 years ago
Dont call me a Republican, dork.
I think anyone that votes on legislation, or for a candidate, based on party affiliation is an idiot
So you think everyone that has been successful and rich in this country somehow made people not pay their mortgages?
What about rich people that had nothing to do with the crisis? You think we'll miss all the capital investment that is going overseas?
You deep thinker
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rockdiga 2 years ago
Can't go back retroactively to 2008? The IRS does it every year! Bullshit!
It really doesn't matter though, the dollar will crash and they will have millions of worthless pieces of paper... Most of our countries wealth has been taken off shore already by the banksters... We will have to revolt to get anything fixed... Talk is cheap...
nasanction 2 years ago 3
Fuckin financial system is Going to collapse --Shti it's already collapsed --only Ratt Fucks who have jobs are LOCAL -STATE and FEDERAL employees who never get fired --fuckin Socialized Country.
deltaalpha21074 2 years ago
So they just give them a bonus slightly under 100,000 dollars? WTF Just seems like another way to give the thieves money.
LionCome 2 years ago
They deserve the bonuses. Union workers however make way too much though. Quite a way of thinking we have here.
sunwing28 2 years ago
Thats Exactly what im saying...union Bad and evil ...Bonuses with "TAX PAYERS MONEY GOOD AND DELICIOUS"
rockdiga 2 years ago
Where is personal accountability? Where is honesty? Where is looking out for the next guy?
Instead of let me fuck you in every orafice you have and I wont say please and I wont say thank you...so the banks have raped me right in the ass.
WhiteBull 2 years ago 2
If could get let's say $400k bonus or salary, I could pay off my house. I'd be totally happy. These people are so fuckin' greedy.
hiriumi 2 years ago 7
"Acting with lightning speed, the Democratic-led House has approved a bill to slap punishing taxes on big employee bonuses from firms bailed out by taxpayers. The vote was 328-93.
The bill would levy a 90 percent tax on bonuses paid to employees with family incomes above $250,000 at companies that have received at least $5 billion in government bailout money."
TAKE THAT MOTHERFUCKERS!! FUCKING 90% !! YES! lol
semigotbanned 2 years ago 4
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SquallCloud 2 years ago
Thanks for the info semigotbanned, had to go to cspan to check it out for myself.
This is a good start but now we need to make sure these brigands don't even do anything like that ever again. Regulations Regulations Regulations!
SquallCloud 2 years ago
I'd feel better about it if this were punishment, but it's not.
"Oh damn, I only get 1.6 million in bonuses, the rest goes to taxes"
In the end, for every $900,000 they have to give back through taxes, we are still losing $100,000
jstutz2003 2 years ago
It's expected that state governments will get the other 10%.
lyricalkismet 2 years ago
good job
semigotbanned 2 years ago
Awesome Video Cenk.... "Love the sound board"
Colombianqtric 2 years ago 6
The bad news is your insurance is no good, the good news is the the insurance executive are unbelievably wealthy now, and congress is secretly rooting for them. At the behest of the treasury department at the behest of the Federal Reserve at the behest of the Obama Administration Chris Dodd spilled out the rich people bonuses. This is the kind of thing that makes you want to say: HMMMM!!!
hypnofan35 2 years ago
none of the crap they are doing is going to fix anything. all they ever do is patch work that will break down again in the years to come .the people that are going to be screwed and struggle to keep their heads above water will be screwed again maybe not them but their kids will be. it is so sad
acesas 2 years ago
Do the Dodd story. He was blaming parties unknown "hand over fist" for putting the bonus clause in the bail out bill; then he finally spilled and changed his "version" when he was incontrovertably singled out. "Weak sauce"!! Somebody else did it when he was not looking at the last second when he was unable to check and recheck!
hypnofan35 2 years ago
Truth doesn't come out of congress; they get special courses on how to create a false front. AIG is a way to divert, funnel and collect. They probably have some fail safe way to stash the cash. Insurance is the biggest scam anyway.
hypnofan35 2 years ago
The income tax code has does not subscribe to the constituion anyway from what i understand, so take the damn money back already. Why not censure Dodd while about it? He did not make a mistake; more than likely he got some kind of bonus himself.
hypnofan35 2 years ago
The congress basically doesn't know shit about anything-especially the bills they sign off on. It's beyond a joke at this point.
pretorious700 2 years ago
100% Tax on bonuses? Can they really do that? Does this set up some bad precedent? What will this do about future executive compensation issues? And why did they allow this compensation system in the first place? Did Rep. Ryan vote on a bill that he never read?
audadvnc 2 years ago
Only if the bonuses comes from tax payers money.
Htown75 2 years ago
Great Proposal!
DillonX 2 years ago
Y.O!!! Y.O!!!!
RacerEckss 2 years ago
Tim says if we lose the trust of the American people. Haha "if we lose the trust" wow! If!
Afoghorn 2 years ago 3
We have to get to the point that pension fund managers are sticking to more conservative investing strategies so that worrying about everyone's grandparents isn't the excuse for why we need to rescue the financial sector.
GrownupPhan 2 years ago
Only idiots didnt know they where going to try to get the bonuses. So, unless Obama and co are idiots,... they knew.
I am just wondering where the next loop is. Tax year 2009 loop hole that prevents this tax bill from having effective effect? What a joke.
Deducting from the bail out sum?
What, so they just get the same money in the next package... Whats the fecking point.
Lobos222 2 years ago
Fuck this rep tim ryan.
I don't trust him as far as I can throw him.
So what his great plan now? Oh yeah we'll just tax these CEO's to get the money back right?!
Yeah FUCK THAT. MAKE THEM GIVE THE MONEY BACK NOW or stick their heads in a gulliotine.
Ryan is just DYING to suck geithner's balls and cover for him anyway he can.
Plus the way things REALLY work in congress in a bill is written one way and then changed right before the vote. Which I bet is EXACTLY what ryan is planning.
HulkSmashPunyHumans 2 years ago
I really like your username
pretorious700 2 years ago
hope this taxing doesn't get out of hand
darkkittycry 2 years ago
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Ryan is Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! Palin is a SUPERIOR politician and statesman than Ryan could ever be. She is also MORE MAN than he is. Ryan wears the skirt in his family while his wife wears the pants! There is nothing Ryan can do to stop the AIG bonuses. The money will never come back. This AIG faux pas will lead to an Obambi 1 term EPIC FAIL and a 2 term Sarah Palin EPIC SUCCESS!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
Is there anyone in the world that is not Sarah Palin's dickless and balless bitch?
p12psicop 2 years ago
Any female politician (ie Hillary). ALL MALE POLITICIANS are Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCHES and PUSSIES!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
Rush Limbaugh is not a politician, but you said he is also dickless and balless and Sarah Palin's bitch.
p12psicop 2 years ago
Limbaugh and Stewart are just entertainers Relax
Jackthemeat 2 years ago
You really have issues with the "dick, balls, and pussies" thing don't you?
pretorious700 2 years ago
DICKS and BALLS are the FEMALE GENTALIA and the SUPERIOR GENETALIA. PUSSIES are for WUSSIES and men are WUSSIES for they have PUSSIES!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
Palin is as stupid as you are. Stop clogging the joint up with your bullshit rehtoric........
RacerEckss 2 years ago 4
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Palin is NOT STUPID! She is the SMARTEST politician on this earth TODAY!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
Prove it...
RacerEckss 2 years ago
I hope ur being sarcastic bc sarah palin is an idiot.
americanmanx 2 years ago 2
Come on - Geithner didn't "make a mistake" - he was criminally negligent. It was *obvious* that this would happen, and even if it wasn't, there is absolutely no rational basis for the "no strings attached" policy that he so carelessly advocated.
l0gically 2 years ago 3
publicity stunt...
Bubba186 2 years ago
geitner should be fired...
hellshade2 2 years ago
I'm not a lawyer, but I doubt very much that it's constitutional to pass a law today that applies to yesterday.
At least I hope it is, although in this case I might make an exception.
Of course, if Cheyney and his gang were still running things (into the ground) ...
... it would still be unconstitutional, but they could not have cared less.
forgetititititit 2 years ago 2
what about the lower class?
blossom420 2 years ago
how is it not constitutional to retroactively tax? or even if it is why has congress been doing it since the 1930s.
akaEtoo 2 years ago
They haven't been, and it's unconstitutional because you could tax anyone anything for anything they've ever made that way.
If they decided that they wanted to raise taxes and make some extra money, would you be sending in a check for taxes you didn't have to pay the first time around?
AustralianStallion90 2 years ago
I like how no one ever reads the question and thinks about it they just react. Your answer is complete bs because its not a reason why it would be unconstitutional. What is unconstitutional are things that are prohibited by the constitution not by what is fair or not fair. If you can find in the constitution where it prohibits this then please respond and be helpful to my question, if not please keep your bs nonargument to yourself.
akaEtoo 2 years ago
What in the fuck are you talking about?
AustralianStallion90 2 years ago
In some cases, retroactive taxation has been ruled a violation of the Due Process Clause of the 5th Amendment - especially where it's been deemed unduly harsh or arbitrary. This is not always the case however, such as in U.S. vs. Carlton (1994) when the Supreme Court unanimously ruled in favor of the constitutionality of a retroactive tax in that particular situation.
ScoundrelLB 2 years ago
its not retroactive, its for the 2009 tax year.
alien13ufo 2 years ago
see response to the above, I had a real question and I did not misunderstand what was said in the interview. If you can point in the constitution where it prohibits retroactive taxes please tell me and I will concede the point. Not that the constitution means anything after the Bush administration did a Fritzl on it.
akaEtoo 2 years ago
i will eat my own shit if we ever get back all our money.
matthlowder 2 years ago 2
Will you videotape it?
AustralianStallion90 2 years ago
is tim geitner the guy for the job. LOL
genghis6l99 2 years ago
Tax the fuck out of those bozos and give it back to the middle class where it belongs.
nnamdi247 2 years ago
yea idk if i like this tax plan for the bonuses. Unless its 100% tax which i doubt it will be. they should just take it all back.
Dray90 2 years ago
tax the FUCK out of those ass holes
KoutetsuTenshin 2 years ago 5
Taxing the bonuses is a good idea
liknital07 2 years ago
a 100% rate tax that is
liknital07 2 years ago 4
No more bailouts!
zzzxxyy 2 years ago
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damn 5th
supabadass47 2 years ago
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messiahiar 2 years ago
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xRaGxproductionsx 2 years ago
ncie
xRaGxproductionsx 2 years ago
nice vid
POSHLOVER12 2 years ago
good one!
baddmanaz 2 years ago 4