In the Tolstoy novel War and Peace, the main character Pierre toyed with numerology. He had a alphanumeric formula that would reveal if one was evil and had trouble getting Napoleon Bonaparte's name to fit this formula. For kicks he placed his own name in and sure enough, he was evil!
While I'm here, some of you may have heard of the latest victory towards understanding life and evolution - A recent study of yeast cells found that multi-cellularity could happen in much simpler circumstances than theorists imagined. Meaning, the evolutionary transition from single-cell bacteria and the like to complex, multicellular organisms is now a matter of empirical science instead of speculative miracle. It's a huge deal, and I think it will lead to further understanding.
Sorry sport - the bible mentions nothing about "preadamites", dinosaurs, nor evolution.
Your holy book contains no scientific information and consists only of fairy tales ( such as the flood myth borrowed from Sumerian stories) and the innane ramblings of bronze-age desert nomads. In the bible, we find ,for example, leprosy can be cured by animal sacrifice - wow, such profound medical insights....
REAL science has given us cures, technology that has made life better,etc
You use big words and sarcasm to make you seem smart when really youre the one who is ignorant. II Peter 3 Knowing there shall come in the last days scoffers walking after their own lusts. 30 years ago people didnt scoff at the idea of any religion even if they didnt believe because they had respect. You are living proof that the Bible is fact. Use all the big words and sarcasm you want to make yourself feel smart but really you are the one who is ignorant.
@MGOSSETT89 Ideas without evidence do NOT deserve respect. This is how we ended up with so many religious people in the first place. I do respect PEOPLE that are religious generally, but I don't have to respect nonsense ideas.
ppsimmons is the perfect embodiment of everything wrong with modern discourse. A stubborn ideologue who has no interest in debate and prefers to insidiously spread his propaganda unchallenged, blocking all disagreeable comments and offering no space for critical discussion.
It's this embrace of absolute ideology over discourse and reason which is preventing us all from moving forward as a society. It's why we have extremist presidential candidates and partisan vitriol. And it's killing us.
You are absolutely correct. PP has blocked me from his channel - a fine example of his willingness to engage in honest debate :) He and people like him seek only to hinder progress and the fundamentalism he espouses has sadly taken over one of our major political parties. I only hope some republican stands up and says "hey, this stuff is crazy and has to stop!". But, I'm not hopeful...
@PhysicsTheorist1 - Can't say I have much hope for the religious-fundi mindset (or the GOP which profits), but I have hope for society. I think we're growing towards a greater appreciation of our potential, and there is more awareness of science as a positive social force. I also think we're becoming increasingly secular, and there are more and more public voices battling historical theism and tradition in favor of reason. Some such voices are harsh, but still necessary.
Even high school biology teachers are embarrassed by the theory of evolution. Based on data from the National Survey of High School Biology teachers, the authors estimate that only 28% of all biology teachers consistently teach evolutionary biology, while 13% explicitly advocate creationism or intelligent design. The remaining teachers they deem the cautious 60%. Only 28% even teach it. What a screwed up theory.
@80150636 Step 1: Learn English. Step 2: Learn to type English correctly. Step 3: Take a few literacy courses so that you can construct a sentence using at LEAST enough structure so that the meaning can be inferred from it. Step 4: Try again. Until then, enjoy holding your wallet to your ear to see if your money has learned to talk... whatever that means. And, although I prefer Android over iOS, I'm sure they have at least one text to speech app on there somewhere.
Clearly the Universe was created in 39000 BC, as clearly stated in Xu Zheng's Three Five Historic Records. If anyone says the bible is more trustworthy than this one, that is an insult.
I hope I get a shout out! Ask an evolutionist where life began and they'll say no one knows but ask a person creationist they'll say God is is responsible or intelligent design. Where is the issue?
@giovanone The issue is that Creationists want...something...not even sure what they want taught, but they want it in the classroom. It's easy to teach that; "Creationists say God created everything". Class over. Either way, it's not science, and has no business in any classroom.
I KNOW RIGHT! i just found out about this ppsimmons and the lies that he/she/political/christian agenda has been spreading around youtube and there were no comment options on his videos! COWARD! but there are massive amount of followers and it just scares me how many people have blind faith anyway thank a lot for addressing this issue!
It warms my heart that you all cannot seem to totally agree on the exact meaning of evolution. Non The less the above video Seems to be refuting the existence of ANY intelligent design but maybe i am wrong. I guess there simply does not exist a creationist "scientist" That does not have a religious agenda. But i have to admit i have learned a lot here.
@mindscrape69 You should make your definition of "meaning" more clear, I think. The definition of evolution is not in dispute. Some of the mechanics of it are, but that's all. It is definitely true, though how it works isn't completely understood yet.
I was wondering if there were any counter-videos to this ppsimmons character. "PP" is by far the most ridiculous ideologue I've had the displeasure to come in contact with here.
I found one video of his which still allowed comments and asked him how he could purport to seek "truth", while blocking all possibility of discourse. Then he blocked me, and erased my comments. His supporters saw no irony in this, and they all went on to "flame" me, despite my inability to reply.
there is what i call a some what objective idea and that is Charles Darwin himself when a cussed of being an atheist stated that in spite of his findings, that did not necessarily mean there was no creator that might have started something. He explained he was not sure and such matters would be BEYOND our human understanding. So those lovers of Darwinian evolution as it is now called even he considered it a possibility. Besides what are the odds Charles Darwin may never have been born ?
Evolution isn't fact. No-one in their right mind can believe that the universe exists by accident. The complexities of DnA that require millions or billions of dollars/pounds of research to understand at deeper levels should be an indicator that even a single cell can't happen by accident...it's too well structured which screams "design"
@Zaunstar It's the most logical conclusion. DNA is more complicated than anything we can design or make. If someone told you that the computer you used to upload this video evolved by itself without a designer (never mind manufacturer) you'd be phoning the men in the white coats to come and collect 'em. DnA is way more advanced than your computer, and if that had a designer, then surely DNA should have one,albeit a far superior one.
@Hacim24 I don't even care that this is just another argument from ignorance, but I do know that the bumbling fetishistic weirdo that the God of the Bible is seems in no way capable of the types of majesty observed by science. It's not even a compelling parallel. The God of "creation", as in the one who would actually be responsible for DNA, gravity, dark matter, subatomic particles, etc. would be WAY more interesting than the one the Christians have devised.
@alphaenemy You don't understand how to even read the Bible and you have no idea of the God that it speaks of. There are plenty of clues that He is capable of constructing DNA in the Psalms it makes reference to Him knitting together the writer in his mother's womb. The Bible isn't a book to teach you how to intellectually process science, but to show all from the intelligent to the not so intelligent that they were created and for a purpose. The God I know is pure, devastating and real
@Hacim24 I LOVE how you think that you're one of the few that DO know how to read the idiotic bible, though. You are dumb to conclude that you have some sort of clue in to the divine, as if you know anything that I can't know. The God I'm pretty sure you "know" is a figure of your paltry failure of an imagination. You believe in stupid things because you were taught by people who also believed in the same stupid things without any semblance of credibility or evidence. Grow an imagination.
I guess that was real logic on your behalf . So you don't think because things are complicated they were designed. That's nice because based on that idea then no one created a computer right? No! your using an evolved machine. Actually you would be right . Your computer is a result of evolution. Remember Win 95 ? It kind of evolved over time to Win 2000 ,then XP, and now Win 7. The computer components also evolved. From the 486 to the now i 7 Single core to over 8 core.
@Zaunstar No because things have design, they are designed by a designer, prove to me there is no design, because things are in order (cosmos) , it is a design, i'm pretty sure a big baang (sexual pun?) would make everything messed up, that doesn't even make sense, a random explosion without any reason? wouldn't an explosion destroy things? Where did the energy even come from, i'd rather believe in intelligence, than a monkey explosion theory.
@12345soccerguy Lets see, the theorum of evolution is the most proven theorum in all of science. More then 250,000 published, peer reviewed, verified papers have been written on it, in 150 years. Yet you say you can disprove it, please post the published (main stream media), peer reviewed, verified paper that does this. The big bang is not part of the evolution theorum.
@wizard970 How is it proven? Just because there are some books with theories written in them, that doesn't mean it's true, ohh 250, 000 copies of published papers, oooo, was it divinely inspired? did anyone even witness this? also, damn, this theory is so stupid, you can't tell me a random explosion just created everything, first of all, how would this explosion know that this organism producing cell could create life, and this life would need food, water, etc? it's obviously intelligent design.
@12345soccerguy It is not 250,000 copies, it is 250,000 separate works that prove the theorum. Again, it has nothing to do with how life started, only how it changes. Please read up on it before you make more of a horses butt out of yourself. Please post the paper that will change all of science by proving the theorum wrong...Oh that's right you can't because no one has been able to in 150 years.
@12345soccerguy Wow, your intelligence is just flowing over. Run out of things to say already? I don't blame you, there really is no come back when you rely on a 2000 year old book, rather than proven science. Actually your book is the fairy tale. You can still impress everyone, just post the published, peer reviewed paper that will disprove evolution.
@wizard970 Dude, stop lying, there's nothing proven about evolution, just really, hush up, and there's far more intelligence in our world to be called a coincidence, and the claim that Holy Scripture is a fairy-tale is completely out of reach of reality, the Bible actually does talk about the water cycle, the roundness of the earth, the extending of space, and you also can't deny all the fulfilled prophesy, but there is a ton to deny about non living organisms creating living organisms.
@12345soccerguy Actually the bible teaches that the earth is flat, and so did the church. It says nothing about space, other than the stars are fixed in the firmament. They actually believed the sky was solid, and the stars were stuck in it.You are the one lying, as all creationists do, because you have nothing to back it up. Post the paper that disproves evolution! Here is your chance to make scientific history.
@wizard970 Be quiet, the Bible does not say the earth is flat, CIRCLE of the earth, does not mean the earth is a circle, Circle OF the earth, roundness, not flatness, obviously God knows his creation, Job 9:8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea. there are 3 heavens in hebrew, the firmament, space, and the abode of God, so shutup, there's proof right there that God stretches out the heavens, or space, aka universe, and i didn't lie,
@wizard970 Psalm 104:2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:, Isaiah 40:22, It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out;Isaiah 45:12..have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
@wizard970 As the dead sea scrolls were found, dated about 200BC, i'm not sure, found a COMPLETE ISAIAH scroll, and it also mentions God spreading out the universe.
@12345soccerguy This same book says the earth is the center of the universe. And everything revolves around it. The church taught that the earth was flat for hundreds of years. Galileo proved that the earth was not the center of the universe, and in 1633 was charged as a heretic by the church and sentenced to house arrest, for the rest of his life..9 years. Non of this has anything to do with the theorum of evolution, you are just killing time because you have no answer.
@wizard970 Well it's not about trusting the church, it's about trusting God. In Psalm 93:1, it's speaking of the world, not the physical EARTH, it's a bit difficult for non-believers to see the truth since there is all this Roman Catholic stuff making false claims, teaching false doctrines, etc...
@alphaenemy Lol it all comes to this, i'm definitely not only trusting God because i'm "afraid" of what might result from the opposite, that's not what faith is all about, there's much more love, care, and truth than the fear of a pagan theory of everlasting punishment. Probably most atheists think Christians have a Catholic/ Pagan point of view, with everlasting hell fire punishment, being in heaven when you die, etc... then they make up blasphemous sayings, etc... i could say the same thing to
@alphaenemy you, that you only believe in evolution/ big bang theory (if you do) because you think you can do whatever you want and nothing will stop you, no laws, no morality, no faith, and just say it's a silly fairytale, and then go on to say stuff about "morality" as if there is non, something like that, but it's all ignorance, which make many lose the battle.
@12345soccerguy Nope, that's not at all why I "believe" in evolution or the big bang. Has nothing to do with what I want. Nothing in nature has to do with what anybody wants. And I hold myself to high moral standards, thank you. As per the usual, you think "the Bible says all non-believers are immoral", and that everything the Bible says is true, even there is absolutely no real world evidence to support the idea that non-believers behave immorally. None. The Bible got that one wrong.
@12345soccerguy Spirituality has different definitions in nearly every PERSON, let alone religion. Face it, you're trying to tell me that I don't feel anything if I don't feel what you think I should feel. You're really pushing your ignorance on the world, and I think you should stop. It's not going to end well. You're not even good at arguing it.
@alphaenemy When did i say that you don't feel anything? Well whatever, sure, it's much more "reasonable" to believe that over an uncertain period of millions of years, we were cells created from an unknown explosion, then millions of more years we somehow changed, and became apes, changed some more, and finally discovered this to be true a couple of millenniums later and were able to prove this absurd claim without any evidence. You're not good at "arguing" either, you don't even have anypoint
@alphaenemy And how does nature have nothing to do with what anybody says? Check out Biblical Hebrew on youtube, how it has the end from the beginning series, something like that, you're going off topic,
@wizard970 And as with most creationists you have turned the topic to religion, as per one of your leaders.
Intelligent Design
"The objective is to convince people that Darwinism is inherently atheistic, thus shifting the debate from creation vs evolution to the existence of God vs the non-existence of God." Atty. Philip Johnson, the father of "Intelligent Design", admitting that he lies for his God in "Reclaiming America for Christ."
@12345soccerguy Not "spreading", but have "stretched out the heavens". Past tense versus the idea of the continuous expansion cosmologists observe. There is no mention of God continually stretching the heavens out and not stopping. These scrolls have the analogy of a tent, and I've never seen a tent that continually expands.
@12345soccerguy Wow, this one's all over the fail map. I even suspect a troll after this. What other scientific discoveries that you DO accept were not divinely inspired? Evolution has been witnessed. Evolution says nothing about the Big Bang. This "explosion" did not know anything about how things would happen after it, it was just an event. Things did happen after that. Intelligent design is only obvious when you look at the evidence and prefer a "divinely inspired" explanation instead.
@alphaenemy No once you see design, there is obviously a designer, creator, resulting into a conclusion of the fact that there is divine inspiration as it is a miracle. Prove to me evolution has been witnessed, which is stupid, but, people have seen God, heard God, etc... even the all the prophesies that were told, came true, what causes this ignorance even with all of this evidence? sure you may say "what evidence", but , it's pretty obvious.
@12345soccerguy Prove to you that evolution has been witnessed? You have a computer, use the search function. It's all over the internet. Read some science journals. By that I mean things presented by scientists, not Creationists.
@alphaenemy Bacterial adaptation does not prove evolution, because the bacteria stays the way it is, animals can "evolve" their behaviors based on the environment, but that in no way changes their physical form,
@12345soccerguy Bacteria are commonly cited because they go through thousands, millions, or dare I say billions of generations to our one. Therefore it is easy to see those gradual changes. Evolution is like turning up the volume on your TV. The button only turns it up one level at a time. If you turn it up one notch every ten minutes, it will likely not even be noticed (save the indicator). After a couple hours you might notice a change. Adaptation is one notch. Evolution is several.
@12345soccerguy There is little order to the cosmos. We establish more uniformity and order in the things we design than the blobs of goo God supposedly designs.
@Zaunstar If you have told one lie, that makes you a liar. If you have stolen one thing, that makes you a thief. JESUS said; if you look at a person with lust, you commit adultery in your heart! Ever used GOD's name in vain; then you are a blasphemer and can't enter heaven! Rev. 21v8 says; "All liars will have their part in the lake of fire!" The bible says; No thief or adulterer will inherit GOD's kingdom! You broke GOD's laws; but JESUS paid your fine! Repent, trust the Savior!
@Zaunstar So you believe in a creator just because there is a creation, and you believe that just because their are millions of bits of information in our D.N.A. which you cannot get without an informer, and just because their are over 40 universal laws that cannot be altered in the slightest otherwise we could not exist which also show that their is a lawgiver, and just because Christ fulfilled over 300 specific prophecies just in his first coming you believe these myths.....so stupid! *sigh*
First , jesus fulfilled no prophecies - christians quote-mined the Tanakh (what you call the old testament) , pulled anything they could find, twisted the meaning in order to fit the writings to their pre-defined beliefs.
Secondly, "DNA information" is just another creationist canard - DNA is a complex molecule that contains no "information" in the sense you're implying.
" fine-tuning" is also wrong - the universe is not "fine-tuned" for life.
@PhysicsTheorist1 Scientist cant find the missing link between neanderthals and homosapiens because there is none. If you study the pre adamite theory you will see that neanderthals were created before modern day humans and if you study the Bible deep enough you will see that the earth was flooded before the creation of modern day humans.There aren't any ways to prove evolution but many ways to disprove it.
@MGOSSETT89 I am not here to defend ppsimmons and i do agree with zaunstar that most of the evidence ppsimmons presents is nonsense. I am just here to show that Christians are not ignorant. I wasn't raised a Christian but the more I studied the Bible along with science the more I understood that the Bible was the truth and the word of God.
@MGOSSETT89 This doesn't prove that you are not ignorant. It merely shows that you are ignorant, not because you were raised to be, but because you choose to be.
@PhysicsTheorist1Hilarious! "Predefined beliefs" your projecting! Over 300 prophecies concerning just his first coming alone in perfect detail. but then again; you are willfully blind; "The man with Jaundice sees all things yellow!" You are blinded by your own GOD hating bias! It is absolutely impossible to get information without an informer! "Brain-liposuction!" you said "Complex molecule" you cannot get complexity from non-complexity! How do you get design without a designer? yeah! you dont!
Evolution IS a fact. It's been observed and experimented. Evolution only explains the diversity of life, not the creation of the universe nor the formation of the first self replicating organic molecule. It is not random chance. Please, learn what you are trying to disprove.
@Atharkas If you're talking about evolution in terms of the unfolding of organisms, then yeah it is fact, but it also depends on what you mean by 'evolution'. You must be aware that many see the creation of the universe as the result of the Big Bang and that by chance life began and by chance we have the complex system of life that we observe today. That isn't fact, it's a theory, one that hasn't been proved. There are no undisputable missing links between any of the species to support it. Fact
Evolution is only about the diversity of life. That's it.
There is good evidence of abiogenesis, the chemical reactions leading to the first self replicating organic molecule with heredity (as displayed by Julius rebek's experiments on autocatalysts and Jack Szostak's experiments on the formation of lipid layers duplicating the polymers within it). It's not chance either, it's chemistry, Just like planet formation is not chance either, it's gravity.
@Atharkas Random change makes up part of one of the mechanisms in the genarally accepted theory of evolutionary. The link between the species is not a fact cos no missing links have been found
Mutations are part, yes, but those who have mutation that are beneficial mate and pass their genes while those who have bad mutations usually don't get to the point of reproduction.
Yes, the link between species is a fact thanks to the genome comparison and the comparison of endogenous retrovirus. Sorry to burst your bubble, common ancestry is a fact.
And you think because 97% think they believe in evolution. that automatically makes it true. To start with where do you get 97%? is that 97% of the world or only part of the world? Did you factor in the greatest growth of religion probably in a while. We are living in difficult times and that is always when religion flourishes. I would wonder about 97%. By the way i do believe in the missing link. , these videos PROVE it.
@Atharkas It now becomes increasingly obvious how pationate you are about what you think you said. So you end one sentence with "fail" Gee why is it i have seen that expression before? a popular expression used by you people. Obviously your zeal has clouded your understanding of my point.
Using an expression that is somewhat popular (in a language which is not my first( to describe how the idea of evolution, a scientific theory which explains the diversity of life forms, is to be compared with religions, a compendiums of stories and myths with nothing to back them up except the closemindedness of those who were indoctrinated as children is quite ok. I'm sorry mindscraped, but there is no correlation between evolution and a fairy tale.
My main problem with random selection is that life is not really that random . Through random selection we were supposed to get a total ecological system where all living things compete for survival . Call it the survival of the fittest. But that is all it is. And it works quite well. Hence there is a delicate balance in nature that makes sure there is no over population by one species. This has been happening seamless until , in their infinite wisdom , scientists fucked it all up.
And since there is no random selection, your whole argument fails. Natural selection is NOT random, nor is sexual selection, co-evolutive selection.
Sorry, but why not actually learn what you are trying to disprove? There is no such things as "missing links" and fossils are not needed anymore as the main evidence for evolution.
@Atharkas WHY "better luck next timed"? I did a lot of research so did you. I stand corrected. I am open minded. What you say makes sense so i will have to do more reading. Thanks.
Have fun reading. And the "better luck next time" is due that the "chances selection" is a favourite creationist arguments to try to disprove evolution.
@Hacim24 Lets see, the theorum of evolution is the most proven theorum in all of science. More then 250,000 published, peer reviewed, verified papers have been written on it, in 150 years. Yet you say you can disprove it, please post the published (main stream media), peer reviewed, verified paper that does this.
@Hacim24 You're right. Evolution is much more than a fact. Its a theory. One that has withstood 150 years of scrutiny with thousands of discoveries in support of it, and exactally zero opposed.
@KittJT2 If you're in support of evolution being true, you're statement makes no sense "it's more than a fact, it's a theory"? then you've just said it hasn't been proved. Theories that can be proved are usually classed as facts. There hasn't been much scrutiny against evolution because it supports the aims of the present political&econimic establishment. The same evidence can be used to back creationist thinking.The Bible has withstood thousands of years of scrutiny and still stands. God bless
@Hacim24 You ignorant fool. In scientific terms, a fact is an observable instance. A theory is the idea that EXPLAINS those facts. A PROOF is purely mathematical. By your reasoning, the theory of gravity (or gravitation) would be called the fact of gravity? Or germ theory... Germ fact? I emplore you to go read more than one book if you're able. As for the bible. Have you even read it in its entirety? The number of times it blatantly contradicts itself is simply astounding. FSM bless.
@KittJT2 Yeah I have read the Bible and it only contradicts itself to people in ignorance. There are more hypocrisies in the different theories that pervade evolutionary thinking. There is no fact that the universe was created from a Big Bang and the Theory of Evolution is still called a theory, why is that? Use some common sense and you'll see that creation has a creator. If you're so right why are you getting so heated? I've read plenty and I actually think you're the ignorant fool
@Hacim24 What does the big bang have to do with evolution? They are two seperate theories, in two COMPLETELY seperate fields. Of all the scientific theories out there, evolution is one of the best understood. Even more so than gravity. You are talking in circles. Theory vs fact? Read my last post. Evidence for evolution? Thousands of examples. Evidence against? Exactally 0. Many crystals are just as 'ordered' as DNA, and nobody claims a magic rock making god.
@KittJT2 Actually the Big Bang theory ties in with the Theory of Evolution as there are interlinks between them. If you don't believe the universe was created by a God, how do you believe it came about? Did it just evolve happen by itself and then evolve into what we have today? Wouldn't it make more sense that it was created and then went through changes within certain set parameters?
@KittJT2 They may be two separate fields, but seldom do you get an evolutionist who doesn't believe in the Big Bang,and vice versa so I'm right to bring them together. Things may have evolved and changed but that doesn't prove the theory that one species changed from another, there are no missing links. Species change within certain set parameters that's all. People do claim a God made rocks as well as the rest of the universe, I don't know why you thought no one did
@Hacim24 Go to google and type "observed instances of speciation." You will get a list of examples. And no, you are not right to bring them together. Evidence for or against one of them has absolutly no effect on the other. There is no debate wether evolution is true any more. Only backwards creationists clinging to their bronze age myths. Evolution is like whittling something. Each change is small, maybe even unnoticible, but hundereds of changes make something that looks entirely different.
@Hacim24 Actually, evolution is a fact. It's been directly observed in the laboratory in viruses, plants and insects. Actual speciation has been achieved under laboratory conditions using a population of flies - where one type of fly turns into another type of fly and the two types can no longer breed with each other. There is more scientific proof of evolution than there is of gravity.
Those pesky facts always get in the way of a good argument. Nice try denying it though.
@ChipArgyle Like I've argued with another person on here, there is evidence for evolution as in change...but that change is limited within the species. If one type of fly changes and breeding is impossible, the fly is still a fly etc. Besides it sounds like a constructed experiment, not very random eh? More proof than gravity? Are you sure? What planet are you on? How do you stay on it? Sir Isaac Newton supposed that God kept the moon up with the same thing that made the apple fall
@Hacim24 You know nothing of which you speak. You don't even know the definition of species. Go learn something and come back when you have a valid, scientifically supported argument.
Yes, there are more supporting facts for evolution than there are for gravity.
@Hacim24 He really is correct. We understand evolution a lot better than we understand gravity. Gravity is actually the biggest barrier to a unifying theory because it is so different.
Evolution is FACT. Enbrace it, re-adjust your translations of the bible and move along theists. We've tested it, we've seen it, we've documented the facts. Read a book other then the bible. Expand your minds.
I will give you the same advice read another book beside the bible, What does the bible have to do with anything anyway? Your biggest and most illogical argument REALLY is against religion . You assume if all religions are wrong that proves there is no intelligent design. It is we humans that invented religion in an effort to try to Bring "GOD" down to our level or elevate ourselves to his level. Were are so minute and insignificant in the universe, I doubt "God" even notices us.
@mindscrape69 I made no such assumptions. Evolution doesn't discount the existence of a particular deity, I never said that. It's religions that are trying to suppress/discredit what we are discovering about the wonderful world we live in. Just like the church tried to silence Galileo, they are trying to do the same with evolution now. Adjust the "interpretations" of the bible again so that evolution fits into the equation...b/c we know it is FACT just like we know the earth isn't flat.
Chicken evolution right here folks step right up and see men becoming chickens. Its not the only show on you tube but it is here so come on down they have a long line of cheap crap you dont need for an extremely high price.Remember they believe it so you should to.Be the first in your family to love being lied to enjoy several hours of retarded states of mind,but wait that's not all you can loose your eternal soul!!!! So hurry on in before hell is full.
@clawedification Point out where evolution says that men will become chickens. You should really do this, because it would lend a lot of credit to your argument. Seriously. If you can point out where evolution says anything like what you're suggesting, you're going to gain a lot of credibility.
Ok smarty pants give me one good proof that atheism is true and accurate or evolution ever occurred,im not talking about some salamanders or some bacteria im talking about the missing link.Why are there not hundreds of transitions running around right now?How about chirality?What about photons being the primary agent to hold it all together when in fact this is confirmed by God 2 thousand years ago?In short you are an idiot.Playing follow the leader?
@icxnamjah I'm not sure what you mean ,are these not valid questions to confirm the empirical facts.Come out with it then or is this an example of evolution men turning into chickens? Why are you not answering is there something wrong Mr atheist evo head?If you cant show this poor fool then what makes you think this needs to be preached to anyone else? Stop the speculation and get on with some real work use your science talents to help instead of destroy.Don't you know people like God?
@icxnamjah Im asking them to back up the sick ass idea that we are apes.Come on then show me one single mutation leading to an increase in the genome.Thats not even the tip of the iceberg sex,language,morals,look i have a right hand and a left hand.Show me how two different sexes can RANDOMLY appear at the same time.Why cant monkeys talk?Where are all the fossils since we are the most advanced we should have the most transitions.Where are the monkey men?
@Thallazar Oh no its not think about the position.I stated out with you atheist and evos telling me there is no God I never claimed anything you people are the sickos that want to dream up evolution like it is some kind of real thing.Again I say show me a mutation that increased the information in the genome.
@clawedification well i'm not a biologist, so I have no idea what you mean? mutations occur all the time that contain different/more information, but if you provide me with some blood i can certianly show an example of devolution.
@Thallazar Ha..Ha...Yo are very funny! changed information is not added.Dawkins cant prove it and the rest of you cant. Again why dont you obviously intelligent people use your talent to help instead of wasting time on the question of origin. Really kind of sad to think the smart people are also crazy about chicken dinos and monkey men.
@clawedification thanks, i'm glad you think so. The problem with arguing with you ignorant types though, is that no matter how much evidence is brought to the table you won't change your mind. You'll find reasons to justify why that particular evidence is wrong or incorrect. Nevertheless, the E-coli long term evolution experiment clearly shows a colony of e-coli mutating a new gene that allows them to handle citrus environments, an ability not previously present in E-coli.
@clawedification oh and to clarify, you've got it wrong. Evolution isn't a theory on the origins of life. That would be Abiogenesis, Evolution merely explains what life does once it is there.
@Thallazar Just because you can not answer all your questions,you simply divert into some kind of weird little play on how the origin is unrelated to the evolution of people.This is not true to me i see it as a tactic to not have to answer the tough questions. Doesn't matter to me that no one person can account for how why or when,other than the right model a.k.a. the bible.
@clawedification No I was simply stating that abiogenesis doesn't equal evolution, correcting your mistake. Though I do like how YOU divert away from your original question after I answer it with evidence of a species evolving a new ability. Classic ignorant creationist chopping and changing between arguments when presented with contrarty evidence.
Yes ,the evo believes he came from an ape like ancestor along with dinosaurs turning into birds! I dont think its fact I think its stupid. The evidence is here 50 billion neurons in neanderthal man, 100 billion in a n average person today. 4 million years of evolution,lets be nice 10 years = 1 generation. How many changes per generation is that by your math? Why dont I have that many more than my grandma?Why did evolution just stop? Why are birds fossils found in the same rock as dinos?
@clawedification Birds are dinosaurs, humans are apes. What part of that don't you understand?
We did not evolve for Neaderthals, DNA of Neaderthals proves it. There were a different kind of human. NOT US. How do you know how many neurons were in a Neaderthal?
Why are birds fossils found in the same rock as dinos? Because dinosaurs didn't die off just bacause of them grew feathers. You really don't understand evoultion do you.
@gregrutz Just a thing to add (I agree with what you said, and as with you, after I answered all of his "arguments", he didn't answer anymore), while we didn't evolve from neanderthals, it has been found that we still share part of their genetic information. Kinda like having an uncle or a cousin.
@clawedification Really don't get the principle of answering do you ? If you just type a comm instead of typing one as an answer to me, I don't get the message in my inbox. For fuck's sake do I have to do everything around here ? Then, dinosaurs didn't really turn into birds nor apes into humans actually. This formulation indicates an evolution of an individual, whereas reality is populations, species, are what evolves. Then again, no evidence for the neurons of neanderthals.
@gilless429 Well i guess there is a big problem if it was only one that separated from the rest where did sex come from? Was this a transformer,able to change gender at will and do itself into pregnancy ? Why is x/x and x/y even part of the gender then? Man team evolution you guys suck.
@clawedification ...cont... (so check out the 1st part of my answer) Evolution didn't stop in any way. But let's get back to your claim of the number of neurons from neanderthals. 1st, we didn't evolve from them. We evolved from a different branch of the ape tree. Then, how do you think it's possible to know the number of neurons they had ? How can we, from bones, find out how much neurons, which are organic & don't just hang around for centuries, they had ? We can't.
@clawedification ...cont... (so check out the 1st & 2nd part of my answer) No bird fossil has been found in the same rock as a dino fossil. Where did you get that from, creationistdumbass(dot)com ? Additionally, since we're talking about fossils, ever heard about archeopteryx fossils ? Look it up, it's one of the many pieces of evidence that prove evolution.
@gilless429 Dense is most likely the right word! You or I can not prove evolution fact or false.Fossils do not tell us evolution happened! Spiders are still spiders and the same is found with many kinds we see no change.Evolution is not only a thing that happens by chance it doesn't happen at all in some. Yeah I know it did not need to change,but why would it be that there are so many different types of spiders.Your weird little religion is laughable. evolution = ancient Babylon demon worship.
@clawedification It has already been proven true. It is a fact. Whether you believe it or not is not the problem. Spiders are still spiders... [facepalm] Spiders are what we called them a few centuries ago and what we call them now, so yeah, spiders are spiders. How many times will we have to tell you that evolution is a LONG PROCESS. It DOES NOT happen overnight. Spiders fossils found are not the same. They look alike (lots of living spiders of different species do), is all.
@clawedification 2nd part of answer : Any professional's trained eyes can see the minor, or not, differences with non-extinct species. As for your next sentence, not only do you yet again claim without proof, but fyi if something does not happen it doesn't happen by chance neither. The conjonction "not only" means "and" with an intended meaning of aggravation, it says that both things described are true.
I don't understand your question. There are different spiders for different environements.
@clawedification 3rd part of answer (sorry but you give me so much bull to talk about...) A religion is : a) a belief in, worship of, or obedience to a supernatural power or powers considered to be divine or to have control of human destiny b) belief in, worship of, or obedience to a supernatural power or powers considered to be divine or to have control of human destiny
Beside evolution being proved which means it's not a belief, what part of the definition would fit, please ?
@clawedification 4th part of answer (phew, so much crap in one comment... how d'you do it ?) "evolution = ancient Babylon demon worship." Oh, fuck... The basis of evolution were put by Charles Darwin. He lived from February 1809 to April 1882, was born in England, and traveled all around the world for his works. Evolution is a scientific theory that does not declare anything about whether a god or demon exists. Which part of any of this is reminiscent of "ancient Babylon demon worship" to you ?
@gilless429 Well let me help you out then. Charles Darwin was not the first spend more time researching and you will find that is true.(his uncle and friends) Anyway it does matter the origin of this because you dont know that they are very historical facts about the worship of demons that changed apes into man. Ignorance is not wisdom, you can dream that it is not real all you want but it is.Clay tablets show mans rise from apes they even tell the fairy tale just like now.
@clawedification Let you help me out ? What for ? And what the fuck are you saying ? Do you seriously believe evolution is about demons changing apes into man or some bull like that ? If the answer is yes, this conversation is over. I just don't have enough time to waste some talking with someone who doesn't know jack about the theory he so adamantly refuses to consider. I mean some creationists know the theory, but refuse to accept it, but you don't even know the fucking thing...
@clawedification evolution of biological information. thomas d. schneider
Copy and paste that. I suspect you won't read it so it can be roughly summarized as follows. Any gene being selected for can be shown to increase in information. Further that same gene increases in entropy, thus following the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
@clawedification Oh, lol, the shockofgod argument! FYI, there are many links. None of them are missing. All forms are transitional. You should try at least one high school biology class before you go about taking on people smarter than you on the subject of evolution, since it's apparent you don't really know anything about what evolution states. You know what CREATIONISTS say that evolution says, but that stuff is all wrong.
@clawedification Additionally to what Zaunstar said, argumentum ad populum (or appeal to majority if you prefer) is not a valid confirmation of any point of view. Just because many people believe bullshit doesn't mean bullshit is true. Most people used to believe the earth is flat, and the church even got Galileo burnt to a crisp for saying otherwise (and considering the possibility of an heliocentric system). Yet we're not sitting on a pizza are we ?
Yes but bullshit still exists! You typed those words because you learned it from someone else.Your little history lesson is also a popular belief. No knowledge is acquired by a single belief. Even the highly regarded scientific method teaches this. Of course someone is wrong, its just sad to think the self proclaimed brights are kinda somewhat of a big disappointment. As you believe life to be a mistake I surely cant trust your brain to think correctly.
@clawedification Yes bullshit exists. Its main manifestation is religion.
It's not a belief if there is verifiable evidence, such as all the writings found of that time that talk of a flat earth as evident and not subject to questioning. Science is knowledge acquired regardless of beliefs, whether those of one person or those of billions. Either you're lying your ass off or your knowledge of science is really small. I don't believe life to be a mistake by the way. ...cont...
@clawedification ...cont... A mistake means a mistaken, it implies there was an intended result. I think life happened because there was a given probability that it would and one that it wouldn't, and that time the event that did occur is that of life happening, which does not contradict the laws of probaility and doesn't require any supernatural to work. You believe a magical, celestial, insecure being poofed everything into existence. I believe in facts and evidence. You believe in magic.
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Fantasticlist 1 month ago
In the Tolstoy novel War and Peace, the main character Pierre toyed with numerology. He had a alphanumeric formula that would reveal if one was evil and had trouble getting Napoleon Bonaparte's name to fit this formula. For kicks he placed his own name in and sure enough, he was evil!
billthecat666 1 month ago
While I'm here, some of you may have heard of the latest victory towards understanding life and evolution - A recent study of yeast cells found that multi-cellularity could happen in much simpler circumstances than theorists imagined. Meaning, the evolutionary transition from single-cell bacteria and the like to complex, multicellular organisms is now a matter of empirical science instead of speculative miracle. It's a huge deal, and I think it will lead to further understanding.
TheWanderingPrimate 1 month ago
If you want scientific evidence from the Bible look up Preadamites and it will explain evolution and dinosaurs.
MGOSSETT89 2 months ago
@MGOSSETT89 So you can't even do it yourself? It's not from the bibel, just an interpretation of the bibel and explains nothing. Big suprise!
alzebetha 2 months ago
@MGOSSETT89
Sorry sport - the bible mentions nothing about "preadamites", dinosaurs, nor evolution.
Your holy book contains no scientific information and consists only of fairy tales ( such as the flood myth borrowed from Sumerian stories) and the innane ramblings of bronze-age desert nomads. In the bible, we find ,for example, leprosy can be cured by animal sacrifice - wow, such profound medical insights....
REAL science has given us cures, technology that has made life better,etc
PhysicsTheorist1 1 month ago
You use big words and sarcasm to make you seem smart when really youre the one who is ignorant. II Peter 3 Knowing there shall come in the last days scoffers walking after their own lusts. 30 years ago people didnt scoff at the idea of any religion even if they didnt believe because they had respect. You are living proof that the Bible is fact. Use all the big words and sarcasm you want to make yourself feel smart but really you are the one who is ignorant.
MGOSSETT89 2 months ago
@MGOSSETT89 Ideas without evidence do NOT deserve respect. This is how we ended up with so many religious people in the first place. I do respect PEOPLE that are religious generally, but I don't have to respect nonsense ideas.
Zaunstar 2 months ago 2
ppsimmons is the perfect embodiment of everything wrong with modern discourse. A stubborn ideologue who has no interest in debate and prefers to insidiously spread his propaganda unchallenged, blocking all disagreeable comments and offering no space for critical discussion.
It's this embrace of absolute ideology over discourse and reason which is preventing us all from moving forward as a society. It's why we have extremist presidential candidates and partisan vitriol. And it's killing us.
TheWanderingPrimate 4 months ago
@TheWanderingPrimate
You are absolutely correct. PP has blocked me from his channel - a fine example of his willingness to engage in honest debate :) He and people like him seek only to hinder progress and the fundamentalism he espouses has sadly taken over one of our major political parties. I only hope some republican stands up and says "hey, this stuff is crazy and has to stop!". But, I'm not hopeful...
PhysicsTheorist1 1 month ago
@PhysicsTheorist1 - Can't say I have much hope for the religious-fundi mindset (or the GOP which profits), but I have hope for society. I think we're growing towards a greater appreciation of our potential, and there is more awareness of science as a positive social force. I also think we're becoming increasingly secular, and there are more and more public voices battling historical theism and tradition in favor of reason. Some such voices are harsh, but still necessary.
TheWanderingPrimate 1 month ago
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Even high school biology teachers are embarrassed by the theory of evolution. Based on data from the National Survey of High School Biology teachers, the authors estimate that only 28% of all biology teachers consistently teach evolutionary biology, while 13% explicitly advocate creationism or intelligent design. The remaining teachers they deem the cautious 60%. Only 28% even teach it. What a screwed up theory.
achilles197474 5 months ago
Why Are The Money and aps SOO SLOOW They Shuld Have By Now At least Learned To Speak Or Somthing No?
Why Are fish Still Fish ? I thought They Might Evole a Little By Now, you'd Think They were tired Of Being Cought and eaten.
If we all Evolve Shuldnt we all be The Same by Now?
Or Is it Better To be a cow Or Chickin.
I guess Thats Come In the second life. Humm
Oh well, I guess Evollution seem To fit The Slow To understand.
After all It takes Millions Of years,
Spar Me The Typos.
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80150636 6 months ago
@80150636 Step 1: Learn English. Step 2: Learn to type English correctly. Step 3: Take a few literacy courses so that you can construct a sentence using at LEAST enough structure so that the meaning can be inferred from it. Step 4: Try again. Until then, enjoy holding your wallet to your ear to see if your money has learned to talk... whatever that means. And, although I prefer Android over iOS, I'm sure they have at least one text to speech app on there somewhere.
Nephus 6 months ago
Clearly the Universe was created in 39000 BC, as clearly stated in Xu Zheng's Three Five Historic Records. If anyone says the bible is more trustworthy than this one, that is an insult.
siucarlos123 7 months ago 5
I hope I get a shout out! Ask an evolutionist where life began and they'll say no one knows but ask a person creationist they'll say God is is responsible or intelligent design. Where is the issue?
giovanone 7 months ago
@giovanone The issue is that Creationists want...something...not even sure what they want taught, but they want it in the classroom. It's easy to teach that; "Creationists say God created everything". Class over. Either way, it's not science, and has no business in any classroom.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
I KNOW RIGHT! i just found out about this ppsimmons and the lies that he/she/political/christian agenda has been spreading around youtube and there were no comment options on his videos! COWARD! but there are massive amount of followers and it just scares me how many people have blind faith anyway thank a lot for addressing this issue!
carey579 7 months ago
It warms my heart that you all cannot seem to totally agree on the exact meaning of evolution. Non The less the above video Seems to be refuting the existence of ANY intelligent design but maybe i am wrong. I guess there simply does not exist a creationist "scientist" That does not have a religious agenda. But i have to admit i have learned a lot here.
mindscrape69 7 months ago
@mindscrape69 You should make your definition of "meaning" more clear, I think. The definition of evolution is not in dispute. Some of the mechanics of it are, but that's all. It is definitely true, though how it works isn't completely understood yet.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
I was wondering if there were any counter-videos to this ppsimmons character. "PP" is by far the most ridiculous ideologue I've had the displeasure to come in contact with here.
I found one video of his which still allowed comments and asked him how he could purport to seek "truth", while blocking all possibility of discourse. Then he blocked me, and erased my comments. His supporters saw no irony in this, and they all went on to "flame" me, despite my inability to reply.
Total cowardice.
TheWanderingPrimate 7 months ago
there is what i call a some what objective idea and that is Charles Darwin himself when a cussed of being an atheist stated that in spite of his findings, that did not necessarily mean there was no creator that might have started something. He explained he was not sure and such matters would be BEYOND our human understanding. So those lovers of Darwinian evolution as it is now called even he considered it a possibility. Besides what are the odds Charles Darwin may never have been born ?
mindscrape69 7 months ago
@mindscrape69 Those odds are poor. Lots of evidence for Darwin's existence. Much more than that of Jesus, even. Hell, there are photographs of him.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
Evolution isn't fact. No-one in their right mind can believe that the universe exists by accident. The complexities of DnA that require millions or billions of dollars/pounds of research to understand at deeper levels should be an indicator that even a single cell can't happen by accident...it's too well structured which screams "design"
Hacim24 8 months ago
@Hacim24 So because stuff is complicated, it means it was designed? Really? Surely you can do better than that.
Zaunstar 8 months ago 6
@Zaunstar It's the most logical conclusion. DNA is more complicated than anything we can design or make. If someone told you that the computer you used to upload this video evolved by itself without a designer (never mind manufacturer) you'd be phoning the men in the white coats to come and collect 'em. DnA is way more advanced than your computer, and if that had a designer, then surely DNA should have one,albeit a far superior one.
Hacim24 8 months ago
@Hacim24 I don't even care that this is just another argument from ignorance, but I do know that the bumbling fetishistic weirdo that the God of the Bible is seems in no way capable of the types of majesty observed by science. It's not even a compelling parallel. The God of "creation", as in the one who would actually be responsible for DNA, gravity, dark matter, subatomic particles, etc. would be WAY more interesting than the one the Christians have devised.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy You don't understand how to even read the Bible and you have no idea of the God that it speaks of. There are plenty of clues that He is capable of constructing DNA in the Psalms it makes reference to Him knitting together the writer in his mother's womb. The Bible isn't a book to teach you how to intellectually process science, but to show all from the intelligent to the not so intelligent that they were created and for a purpose. The God I know is pure, devastating and real
Hacim24 5 months ago
@Hacim24 I LOVE how you think that you're one of the few that DO know how to read the idiotic bible, though. You are dumb to conclude that you have some sort of clue in to the divine, as if you know anything that I can't know. The God I'm pretty sure you "know" is a figure of your paltry failure of an imagination. You believe in stupid things because you were taught by people who also believed in the same stupid things without any semblance of credibility or evidence. Grow an imagination.
alphaenemy 5 months ago
@Zaunstar
I guess that was real logic on your behalf . So you don't think because things are complicated they were designed. That's nice because based on that idea then no one created a computer right? No! your using an evolved machine. Actually you would be right . Your computer is a result of evolution. Remember Win 95 ? It kind of evolved over time to Win 2000 ,then XP, and now Win 7. The computer components also evolved. From the 486 to the now i 7 Single core to over 8 core.
mindscrape69 7 months ago
@Zaunstar No because things have design, they are designed by a designer, prove to me there is no design, because things are in order (cosmos) , it is a design, i'm pretty sure a big baang (sexual pun?) would make everything messed up, that doesn't even make sense, a random explosion without any reason? wouldn't an explosion destroy things? Where did the energy even come from, i'd rather believe in intelligence, than a monkey explosion theory.
12345soccerguy 7 months ago
@12345soccerguy Lets see, the theorum of evolution is the most proven theorum in all of science. More then 250,000 published, peer reviewed, verified papers have been written on it, in 150 years. Yet you say you can disprove it, please post the published (main stream media), peer reviewed, verified paper that does this. The big bang is not part of the evolution theorum.
wizard970 6 months ago
@wizard970 How is it proven? Just because there are some books with theories written in them, that doesn't mean it's true, ohh 250, 000 copies of published papers, oooo, was it divinely inspired? did anyone even witness this? also, damn, this theory is so stupid, you can't tell me a random explosion just created everything, first of all, how would this explosion know that this organism producing cell could create life, and this life would need food, water, etc? it's obviously intelligent design.
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy It is not 250,000 copies, it is 250,000 separate works that prove the theorum. Again, it has nothing to do with how life started, only how it changes. Please read up on it before you make more of a horses butt out of yourself. Please post the paper that will change all of science by proving the theorum wrong...Oh that's right you can't because no one has been able to in 150 years.
wizard970 6 months ago
@wizard970 ehh shutup, a bunch of monkey fairy-tales don't prove a thing.
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Wow, your intelligence is just flowing over. Run out of things to say already? I don't blame you, there really is no come back when you rely on a 2000 year old book, rather than proven science. Actually your book is the fairy tale. You can still impress everyone, just post the published, peer reviewed paper that will disprove evolution.
wizard970 6 months ago
@wizard970 Dude, stop lying, there's nothing proven about evolution, just really, hush up, and there's far more intelligence in our world to be called a coincidence, and the claim that Holy Scripture is a fairy-tale is completely out of reach of reality, the Bible actually does talk about the water cycle, the roundness of the earth, the extending of space, and you also can't deny all the fulfilled prophesy, but there is a ton to deny about non living organisms creating living organisms.
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Actually the bible teaches that the earth is flat, and so did the church. It says nothing about space, other than the stars are fixed in the firmament. They actually believed the sky was solid, and the stars were stuck in it.You are the one lying, as all creationists do, because you have nothing to back it up. Post the paper that disproves evolution! Here is your chance to make scientific history.
wizard970 6 months ago
@wizard970 Be quiet, the Bible does not say the earth is flat, CIRCLE of the earth, does not mean the earth is a circle, Circle OF the earth, roundness, not flatness, obviously God knows his creation, Job 9:8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea. there are 3 heavens in hebrew, the firmament, space, and the abode of God, so shutup, there's proof right there that God stretches out the heavens, or space, aka universe, and i didn't lie,
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@wizard970 Psalm 104:2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:, Isaiah 40:22, It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out;Isaiah 45:12..have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@wizard970 As the dead sea scrolls were found, dated about 200BC, i'm not sure, found a COMPLETE ISAIAH scroll, and it also mentions God spreading out the universe.
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy This same book says the earth is the center of the universe. And everything revolves around it. The church taught that the earth was flat for hundreds of years. Galileo proved that the earth was not the center of the universe, and in 1633 was charged as a heretic by the church and sentenced to house arrest, for the rest of his life..9 years. Non of this has anything to do with the theorum of evolution, you are just killing time because you have no answer.
wizard970 6 months ago
@wizard970 Well it's not about trusting the church, it's about trusting God. In Psalm 93:1, it's speaking of the world, not the physical EARTH, it's a bit difficult for non-believers to see the truth since there is all this Roman Catholic stuff making false claims, teaching false doctrines, etc...
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy You're only "trusting God" because you're afraid of what might happen if you don't.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy Lol it all comes to this, i'm definitely not only trusting God because i'm "afraid" of what might result from the opposite, that's not what faith is all about, there's much more love, care, and truth than the fear of a pagan theory of everlasting punishment. Probably most atheists think Christians have a Catholic/ Pagan point of view, with everlasting hell fire punishment, being in heaven when you die, etc... then they make up blasphemous sayings, etc... i could say the same thing to
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Still, all emotionally based reasoning.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy Well yes, obviously,
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy you, that you only believe in evolution/ big bang theory (if you do) because you think you can do whatever you want and nothing will stop you, no laws, no morality, no faith, and just say it's a silly fairytale, and then go on to say stuff about "morality" as if there is non, something like that, but it's all ignorance, which make many lose the battle.
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Nope, that's not at all why I "believe" in evolution or the big bang. Has nothing to do with what I want. Nothing in nature has to do with what anybody wants. And I hold myself to high moral standards, thank you. As per the usual, you think "the Bible says all non-believers are immoral", and that everything the Bible says is true, even there is absolutely no real world evidence to support the idea that non-believers behave immorally. None. The Bible got that one wrong.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy Perhaps spiritually immoral,
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Spirituality has different definitions in nearly every PERSON, let alone religion. Face it, you're trying to tell me that I don't feel anything if I don't feel what you think I should feel. You're really pushing your ignorance on the world, and I think you should stop. It's not going to end well. You're not even good at arguing it.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy When did i say that you don't feel anything? Well whatever, sure, it's much more "reasonable" to believe that over an uncertain period of millions of years, we were cells created from an unknown explosion, then millions of more years we somehow changed, and became apes, changed some more, and finally discovered this to be true a couple of millenniums later and were able to prove this absurd claim without any evidence. You're not good at "arguing" either, you don't even have anypoint
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy And how does nature have nothing to do with what anybody says? Check out Biblical Hebrew on youtube, how it has the end from the beginning series, something like that, you're going off topic,
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@wizard970 And as with most creationists you have turned the topic to religion, as per one of your leaders.
Intelligent Design
"The objective is to convince people that Darwinism is inherently atheistic, thus shifting the debate from creation vs evolution to the existence of God vs the non-existence of God." Atty. Philip Johnson, the father of "Intelligent Design", admitting that he lies for his God in "Reclaiming America for Christ."
wizard970 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Not "spreading", but have "stretched out the heavens". Past tense versus the idea of the continuous expansion cosmologists observe. There is no mention of God continually stretching the heavens out and not stopping. These scrolls have the analogy of a tent, and I've never seen a tent that continually expands.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy If something happens, that does not mean it cannot happen again.
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Coincidence? Not coincidence, simply the incident. It's just what happened. Also, you need to take a chemistry course.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy Real *smart*, an incident that would create an impossibility without intelligence.
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy You just asserted that it's an impossibility. Demonstrate this.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Wow, this one's all over the fail map. I even suspect a troll after this. What other scientific discoveries that you DO accept were not divinely inspired? Evolution has been witnessed. Evolution says nothing about the Big Bang. This "explosion" did not know anything about how things would happen after it, it was just an event. Things did happen after that. Intelligent design is only obvious when you look at the evidence and prefer a "divinely inspired" explanation instead.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy No once you see design, there is obviously a designer, creator, resulting into a conclusion of the fact that there is divine inspiration as it is a miracle. Prove to me evolution has been witnessed, which is stupid, but, people have seen God, heard God, etc... even the all the prophesies that were told, came true, what causes this ignorance even with all of this evidence? sure you may say "what evidence", but , it's pretty obvious.
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Prove to you that evolution has been witnessed? You have a computer, use the search function. It's all over the internet. Read some science journals. By that I mean things presented by scientists, not Creationists.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@alphaenemy Bacterial adaptation does not prove evolution, because the bacteria stays the way it is, animals can "evolve" their behaviors based on the environment, but that in no way changes their physical form,
12345soccerguy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Yes, in fact, it does.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy Bacteria are commonly cited because they go through thousands, millions, or dare I say billions of generations to our one. Therefore it is easy to see those gradual changes. Evolution is like turning up the volume on your TV. The button only turns it up one level at a time. If you turn it up one notch every ten minutes, it will likely not even be noticed (save the indicator). After a couple hours you might notice a change. Adaptation is one notch. Evolution is several.
KittJT2 6 months ago
@12345soccerguy There is little order to the cosmos. We establish more uniformity and order in the things we design than the blobs of goo God supposedly designs.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@Zaunstar Complicated and in working order suggests design if you think it suggests accident or random chance, there's great cause for concern
Hacim24 5 months ago
@Zaunstar If you have told one lie, that makes you a liar. If you have stolen one thing, that makes you a thief. JESUS said; if you look at a person with lust, you commit adultery in your heart! Ever used GOD's name in vain; then you are a blasphemer and can't enter heaven! Rev. 21v8 says; "All liars will have their part in the lake of fire!" The bible says; No thief or adulterer will inherit GOD's kingdom! You broke GOD's laws; but JESUS paid your fine! Repent, trust the Savior!
EXALTEDDIRT 5 months ago
@EXALTEDDIRT So you believe these ancient myths because...?
Zaunstar 5 months ago
@Zaunstar They are absolutely true!
EXALTEDDIRT 5 months ago
@Zaunstar So you believe in a creator just because there is a creation, and you believe that just because their are millions of bits of information in our D.N.A. which you cannot get without an informer, and just because their are over 40 universal laws that cannot be altered in the slightest otherwise we could not exist which also show that their is a lawgiver, and just because Christ fulfilled over 300 specific prophecies just in his first coming you believe these myths.....so stupid! *sigh*
EXALTEDDIRT 5 months ago
First , jesus fulfilled no prophecies - christians quote-mined the Tanakh (what you call the old testament) , pulled anything they could find, twisted the meaning in order to fit the writings to their pre-defined beliefs.
Secondly, "DNA information" is just another creationist canard - DNA is a complex molecule that contains no "information" in the sense you're implying.
" fine-tuning" is also wrong - the universe is not "fine-tuned" for life.
Physicists reject such notions
PhysicsTheorist1 1 month ago
@PhysicsTheorist1 Scientist cant find the missing link between neanderthals and homosapiens because there is none. If you study the pre adamite theory you will see that neanderthals were created before modern day humans and if you study the Bible deep enough you will see that the earth was flooded before the creation of modern day humans.There aren't any ways to prove evolution but many ways to disprove it.
MGOSSETT89 1 month ago
@MGOSSETT89 I am not here to defend ppsimmons and i do agree with zaunstar that most of the evidence ppsimmons presents is nonsense. I am just here to show that Christians are not ignorant. I wasn't raised a Christian but the more I studied the Bible along with science the more I understood that the Bible was the truth and the word of God.
MGOSSETT89 1 month ago 2
@MGOSSETT89 This doesn't prove that you are not ignorant. It merely shows that you are ignorant, not because you were raised to be, but because you choose to be.
supergoalie3301 1 month ago
@PhysicsTheorist1Hilarious! "Predefined beliefs" your projecting! Over 300 prophecies concerning just his first coming alone in perfect detail. but then again; you are willfully blind; "The man with Jaundice sees all things yellow!" You are blinded by your own GOD hating bias! It is absolutely impossible to get information without an informer! "Brain-liposuction!" you said "Complex molecule" you cannot get complexity from non-complexity! How do you get design without a designer? yeah! you dont!
EXALTEDDIRT 1 month ago
@Hacim24
Evolution IS a fact. It's been observed and experimented. Evolution only explains the diversity of life, not the creation of the universe nor the formation of the first self replicating organic molecule. It is not random chance. Please, learn what you are trying to disprove.
Atharkas 8 months ago
@Atharkas If you're talking about evolution in terms of the unfolding of organisms, then yeah it is fact, but it also depends on what you mean by 'evolution'. You must be aware that many see the creation of the universe as the result of the Big Bang and that by chance life began and by chance we have the complex system of life that we observe today. That isn't fact, it's a theory, one that hasn't been proved. There are no undisputable missing links between any of the species to support it. Fact
Hacim24 8 months ago
Evolution is only about the diversity of life. That's it.
There is good evidence of abiogenesis, the chemical reactions leading to the first self replicating organic molecule with heredity (as displayed by Julius rebek's experiments on autocatalysts and Jack Szostak's experiments on the formation of lipid layers duplicating the polymers within it). It's not chance either, it's chemistry, Just like planet formation is not chance either, it's gravity.
And the link between the species is a fact.
Atharkas 8 months ago
@Atharkas Random change makes up part of one of the mechanisms in the genarally accepted theory of evolutionary. The link between the species is not a fact cos no missing links have been found
Hacim24 8 months ago
@Hacim24
Mutations are part, yes, but those who have mutation that are beneficial mate and pass their genes while those who have bad mutations usually don't get to the point of reproduction.
Yes, the link between species is a fact thanks to the genome comparison and the comparison of endogenous retrovirus. Sorry to burst your bubble, common ancestry is a fact.
Atharkas 8 months ago
@Atharkas
And you think because 97% think they believe in evolution. that automatically makes it true. To start with where do you get 97%? is that 97% of the world or only part of the world? Did you factor in the greatest growth of religion probably in a while. We are living in difficult times and that is always when religion flourishes. I would wonder about 97%. By the way i do believe in the missing link. , these videos PROVE it.
mindscrape69 7 months ago
@mindscrape69
"And you think because 97% think they believe in evolution. that automatically makes it true. "
One, I never claimed that and two, evolution has evidences for it. YOU, have nothing.
"Did you factor in the greatest growth of religion probably in a while."
Since evolution has nothing to do with religion : FAIL.
"We are living in difficult times and that is always when religion flourishes"
Because people are too stupid to accept reality for what t is.
Atharkas 7 months ago
@Atharkas It now becomes increasingly obvious how pationate you are about what you think you said. So you end one sentence with "fail" Gee why is it i have seen that expression before? a popular expression used by you people. Obviously your zeal has clouded your understanding of my point.
mindscrape69 7 months ago
@mindscrape69
Using an expression that is somewhat popular (in a language which is not my first( to describe how the idea of evolution, a scientific theory which explains the diversity of life forms, is to be compared with religions, a compendiums of stories and myths with nothing to back them up except the closemindedness of those who were indoctrinated as children is quite ok. I'm sorry mindscraped, but there is no correlation between evolution and a fairy tale.
Atharkas 7 months ago
@Atharkas
My main problem with random selection is that life is not really that random . Through random selection we were supposed to get a total ecological system where all living things compete for survival . Call it the survival of the fittest. But that is all it is. And it works quite well. Hence there is a delicate balance in nature that makes sure there is no over population by one species. This has been happening seamless until , in their infinite wisdom , scientists fucked it all up.
mindscrape69 7 months ago
@mindscrape69
And since there is no random selection, your whole argument fails. Natural selection is NOT random, nor is sexual selection, co-evolutive selection.
Sorry, but why not actually learn what you are trying to disprove? There is no such things as "missing links" and fossils are not needed anymore as the main evidence for evolution.
Better luck next time.
Atharkas 7 months ago
@Atharkas WHY "better luck next timed"? I did a lot of research so did you. I stand corrected. I am open minded. What you say makes sense so i will have to do more reading. Thanks.
mindscrape69 7 months ago
@mindscrape69
Have fun reading. And the "better luck next time" is due that the "chances selection" is a favourite creationist arguments to try to disprove evolution.
Atharkas 7 months ago
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eivarden 7 months ago
@Hacim24
So something as complex as god, which can create something as complex as life, MUST have a creator?
We have heard this a million times, try to think it through.
Evolution is a Fact.
And just so you understand, there is no such thing as random. (Unless you believe in Free Will, which also doesn't exist.)
Pick a hand.
lets say u pick right.
rewind time, you forgot this happened, i say, pick a hand. you will AGAIN pick right. you had NO reason to change. there is no 'RANDOM'.
eivarden 7 months ago
@Hacim24 Lets see, the theorum of evolution is the most proven theorum in all of science. More then 250,000 published, peer reviewed, verified papers have been written on it, in 150 years. Yet you say you can disprove it, please post the published (main stream media), peer reviewed, verified paper that does this.
wizard970 6 months ago
@Hacim24 "I don't know how it got there so God musta did it." This argument has failed every single time. Why do you keep bringing it up?
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@Hacim24 You're right. Evolution is much more than a fact. Its a theory. One that has withstood 150 years of scrutiny with thousands of discoveries in support of it, and exactally zero opposed.
KittJT2 6 months ago
@KittJT2 If you're in support of evolution being true, you're statement makes no sense "it's more than a fact, it's a theory"? then you've just said it hasn't been proved. Theories that can be proved are usually classed as facts. There hasn't been much scrutiny against evolution because it supports the aims of the present political&econimic establishment. The same evidence can be used to back creationist thinking.The Bible has withstood thousands of years of scrutiny and still stands. God bless
Hacim24 6 months ago
@Hacim24 You ignorant fool. In scientific terms, a fact is an observable instance. A theory is the idea that EXPLAINS those facts. A PROOF is purely mathematical. By your reasoning, the theory of gravity (or gravitation) would be called the fact of gravity? Or germ theory... Germ fact? I emplore you to go read more than one book if you're able. As for the bible. Have you even read it in its entirety? The number of times it blatantly contradicts itself is simply astounding. FSM bless.
KittJT2 6 months ago
@KittJT2 Yeah I have read the Bible and it only contradicts itself to people in ignorance. There are more hypocrisies in the different theories that pervade evolutionary thinking. There is no fact that the universe was created from a Big Bang and the Theory of Evolution is still called a theory, why is that? Use some common sense and you'll see that creation has a creator. If you're so right why are you getting so heated? I've read plenty and I actually think you're the ignorant fool
Hacim24 5 months ago
@Hacim24 What does the big bang have to do with evolution? They are two seperate theories, in two COMPLETELY seperate fields. Of all the scientific theories out there, evolution is one of the best understood. Even more so than gravity. You are talking in circles. Theory vs fact? Read my last post. Evidence for evolution? Thousands of examples. Evidence against? Exactally 0. Many crystals are just as 'ordered' as DNA, and nobody claims a magic rock making god.
KittJT2 5 months ago
@KittJT2 Actually the Big Bang theory ties in with the Theory of Evolution as there are interlinks between them. If you don't believe the universe was created by a God, how do you believe it came about? Did it just evolve happen by itself and then evolve into what we have today? Wouldn't it make more sense that it was created and then went through changes within certain set parameters?
Hacim24 5 months ago
@KittJT2 They may be two separate fields, but seldom do you get an evolutionist who doesn't believe in the Big Bang,and vice versa so I'm right to bring them together. Things may have evolved and changed but that doesn't prove the theory that one species changed from another, there are no missing links. Species change within certain set parameters that's all. People do claim a God made rocks as well as the rest of the universe, I don't know why you thought no one did
Hacim24 5 months ago
@Hacim24 Go to google and type "observed instances of speciation." You will get a list of examples. And no, you are not right to bring them together. Evidence for or against one of them has absolutly no effect on the other. There is no debate wether evolution is true any more. Only backwards creationists clinging to their bronze age myths. Evolution is like whittling something. Each change is small, maybe even unnoticible, but hundereds of changes make something that looks entirely different.
KittJT2 5 months ago
@Hacim24 Actually, evolution is a fact. It's been directly observed in the laboratory in viruses, plants and insects. Actual speciation has been achieved under laboratory conditions using a population of flies - where one type of fly turns into another type of fly and the two types can no longer breed with each other. There is more scientific proof of evolution than there is of gravity.
Those pesky facts always get in the way of a good argument. Nice try denying it though.
ChipArgyle 6 months ago in playlist More videos from Zaunstar
@ChipArgyle Like I've argued with another person on here, there is evidence for evolution as in change...but that change is limited within the species. If one type of fly changes and breeding is impossible, the fly is still a fly etc. Besides it sounds like a constructed experiment, not very random eh? More proof than gravity? Are you sure? What planet are you on? How do you stay on it? Sir Isaac Newton supposed that God kept the moon up with the same thing that made the apple fall
Hacim24 5 months ago
@Hacim24 You know nothing of which you speak. You don't even know the definition of species. Go learn something and come back when you have a valid, scientifically supported argument.
Yes, there are more supporting facts for evolution than there are for gravity.
Your ignorance is downright stunning.
ChipArgyle 5 months ago
@Hacim24 He really is correct. We understand evolution a lot better than we understand gravity. Gravity is actually the biggest barrier to a unifying theory because it is so different.
KittJT2 5 months ago
@Hacim24 Absolutely! I could not have said it better myself...
EXALTEDDIRT 5 months ago
Evolution is FACT. Enbrace it, re-adjust your translations of the bible and move along theists. We've tested it, we've seen it, we've documented the facts. Read a book other then the bible. Expand your minds.
mbbm13 8 months ago
@mbbm13
I will give you the same advice read another book beside the bible, What does the bible have to do with anything anyway? Your biggest and most illogical argument REALLY is against religion . You assume if all religions are wrong that proves there is no intelligent design. It is we humans that invented religion in an effort to try to Bring "GOD" down to our level or elevate ourselves to his level. Were are so minute and insignificant in the universe, I doubt "God" even notices us.
mindscrape69 7 months ago
@mindscrape69 I made no such assumptions. Evolution doesn't discount the existence of a particular deity, I never said that. It's religions that are trying to suppress/discredit what we are discovering about the wonderful world we live in. Just like the church tried to silence Galileo, they are trying to do the same with evolution now. Adjust the "interpretations" of the bible again so that evolution fits into the equation...b/c we know it is FACT just like we know the earth isn't flat.
mbbm13 7 months ago
@mbbm13 point well taken
mindscrape69 7 months ago
@mbbm13 Ok then we agree
mindscrape69 7 months ago
Village people humor, well done =).
gilless429 8 months ago
I like this video, you make me laugh, Im going to add to my evolution video list, t friends to show it to my friends thanks
guyver2095 8 months ago
pipi es solo caca
guyver2095 8 months ago
Which came first the creationist or the egg?
phnortgner 8 months ago
Chicken evolution right here folks step right up and see men becoming chickens. Its not the only show on you tube but it is here so come on down they have a long line of cheap crap you dont need for an extremely high price.Remember they believe it so you should to.Be the first in your family to love being lied to enjoy several hours of retarded states of mind,but wait that's not all you can loose your eternal soul!!!! So hurry on in before hell is full.
clawedification 9 months ago
@clawedification Point out where evolution says that men will become chickens. You should really do this, because it would lend a lot of credit to your argument. Seriously. If you can point out where evolution says anything like what you're suggesting, you're going to gain a lot of credibility.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
Ok smarty pants give me one good proof that atheism is true and accurate or evolution ever occurred,im not talking about some salamanders or some bacteria im talking about the missing link.Why are there not hundreds of transitions running around right now?How about chirality?What about photons being the primary agent to hold it all together when in fact this is confirmed by God 2 thousand years ago?In short you are an idiot.Playing follow the leader?
clawedification 9 months ago
@clawedification U mad bro? I bet you just typed w/e your ignorant mind thought up. Have you even reread your comment? Ridiculously uneducated.
icxnamjah 9 months ago
@icxnamjah and delusional.
icxnamjah 9 months ago
@icxnamjah I'm not sure what you mean ,are these not valid questions to confirm the empirical facts.Come out with it then or is this an example of evolution men turning into chickens? Why are you not answering is there something wrong Mr atheist evo head?If you cant show this poor fool then what makes you think this needs to be preached to anyone else? Stop the speculation and get on with some real work use your science talents to help instead of destroy.Don't you know people like God?
clawedification 9 months ago
@icxnamjah Im asking them to back up the sick ass idea that we are apes.Come on then show me one single mutation leading to an increase in the genome.Thats not even the tip of the iceberg sex,language,morals,look i have a right hand and a left hand.Show me how two different sexes can RANDOMLY appear at the same time.Why cant monkeys talk?Where are all the fossils since we are the most advanced we should have the most transitions.Where are the monkey men?
clawedification 9 months ago
@clawedification Holy brainwashed, Batman! You're literally cutting and pasting. All your arguments are well worn, and well refuted plagiarisms.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@clawedification the burden of proof is on the believer, not the non believer. Show us christianity is correct.
Thallazar 9 months ago
@Thallazar Oh no its not think about the position.I stated out with you atheist and evos telling me there is no God I never claimed anything you people are the sickos that want to dream up evolution like it is some kind of real thing.Again I say show me a mutation that increased the information in the genome.
clawedification 9 months ago
@clawedification well i'm not a biologist, so I have no idea what you mean? mutations occur all the time that contain different/more information, but if you provide me with some blood i can certianly show an example of devolution.
Thallazar 9 months ago
@Thallazar Ha..Ha...Yo are very funny! changed information is not added.Dawkins cant prove it and the rest of you cant. Again why dont you obviously intelligent people use your talent to help instead of wasting time on the question of origin. Really kind of sad to think the smart people are also crazy about chicken dinos and monkey men.
clawedification 9 months ago
@clawedification thanks, i'm glad you think so. The problem with arguing with you ignorant types though, is that no matter how much evidence is brought to the table you won't change your mind. You'll find reasons to justify why that particular evidence is wrong or incorrect. Nevertheless, the E-coli long term evolution experiment clearly shows a colony of e-coli mutating a new gene that allows them to handle citrus environments, an ability not previously present in E-coli.
Thallazar 9 months ago
@clawedification oh and to clarify, you've got it wrong. Evolution isn't a theory on the origins of life. That would be Abiogenesis, Evolution merely explains what life does once it is there.
Thallazar 9 months ago
@Thallazar Just because you can not answer all your questions,you simply divert into some kind of weird little play on how the origin is unrelated to the evolution of people.This is not true to me i see it as a tactic to not have to answer the tough questions. Doesn't matter to me that no one person can account for how why or when,other than the right model a.k.a. the bible.
clawedification 9 months ago
@clawedification No I was simply stating that abiogenesis doesn't equal evolution, correcting your mistake. Though I do like how YOU divert away from your original question after I answer it with evidence of a species evolving a new ability. Classic ignorant creationist chopping and changing between arguments when presented with contrarty evidence.
Thallazar 9 months ago
@clawedification No, you see, he answered your question, and you didn't understand it because you don't understand science at all.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@clawedification What? Chickens are dinosaurs and Humans are monkeys. How do you explain those facts?
gregrutz 8 months ago
Yes ,the evo believes he came from an ape like ancestor along with dinosaurs turning into birds! I dont think its fact I think its stupid. The evidence is here 50 billion neurons in neanderthal man, 100 billion in a n average person today. 4 million years of evolution,lets be nice 10 years = 1 generation. How many changes per generation is that by your math? Why dont I have that many more than my grandma?Why did evolution just stop? Why are birds fossils found in the same rock as dinos?
clawedification 8 months ago
@clawedification Birds are dinosaurs, humans are apes. What part of that don't you understand?
We did not evolve for Neaderthals, DNA of Neaderthals proves it. There were a different kind of human. NOT US. How do you know how many neurons were in a Neaderthal?
Why are birds fossils found in the same rock as dinos? Because dinosaurs didn't die off just bacause of them grew feathers. You really don't understand evoultion do you.
gregrutz 8 months ago
@gregrutz Just a thing to add (I agree with what you said, and as with you, after I answered all of his "arguments", he didn't answer anymore), while we didn't evolve from neanderthals, it has been found that we still share part of their genetic information. Kinda like having an uncle or a cousin.
gilless429 8 months ago
@clawedification Really don't get the principle of answering do you ? If you just type a comm instead of typing one as an answer to me, I don't get the message in my inbox. For fuck's sake do I have to do everything around here ? Then, dinosaurs didn't really turn into birds nor apes into humans actually. This formulation indicates an evolution of an individual, whereas reality is populations, species, are what evolves. Then again, no evidence for the neurons of neanderthals.
gilless429 8 months ago
@gilless429 Well i guess there is a big problem if it was only one that separated from the rest where did sex come from? Was this a transformer,able to change gender at will and do itself into pregnancy ? Why is x/x and x/y even part of the gender then? Man team evolution you guys suck.
clawedification 8 months ago
@clawedification ...cont... (so check out the 1st part of my answer) Evolution didn't stop in any way. But let's get back to your claim of the number of neurons from neanderthals. 1st, we didn't evolve from them. We evolved from a different branch of the ape tree. Then, how do you think it's possible to know the number of neurons they had ? How can we, from bones, find out how much neurons, which are organic & don't just hang around for centuries, they had ? We can't.
gilless429 8 months ago
@clawedification ...cont... (so check out the 1st & 2nd part of my answer) No bird fossil has been found in the same rock as a dino fossil. Where did you get that from, creationistdumbass(dot)com ? Additionally, since we're talking about fossils, ever heard about archeopteryx fossils ? Look it up, it's one of the many pieces of evidence that prove evolution.
gilless429 8 months ago
@gilless429 Dense is most likely the right word! You or I can not prove evolution fact or false.Fossils do not tell us evolution happened! Spiders are still spiders and the same is found with many kinds we see no change.Evolution is not only a thing that happens by chance it doesn't happen at all in some. Yeah I know it did not need to change,but why would it be that there are so many different types of spiders.Your weird little religion is laughable. evolution = ancient Babylon demon worship.
clawedification 8 months ago
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@clawedification It has already been proven true. It is a fact. Whether you believe it or not is not the problem. Spiders are still spiders... [facepalm] Spiders are what we called them a few centuries ago and what we call them now, so yeah, spiders are spiders. How many times will we have to tell you that evolution is a LONG PROCESS. It DOES NOT happen overnight. Spiders fossils found are not the same. They look alike (lots of living spiders of different species do), is all.
gilless429 8 months ago
@clawedification 2nd part of answer : Any professional's trained eyes can see the minor, or not, differences with non-extinct species. As for your next sentence, not only do you yet again claim without proof, but fyi if something does not happen it doesn't happen by chance neither. The conjonction "not only" means "and" with an intended meaning of aggravation, it says that both things described are true.
I don't understand your question. There are different spiders for different environements.
gilless429 8 months ago
@clawedification 3rd part of answer (sorry but you give me so much bull to talk about...) A religion is : a) a belief in, worship of, or obedience to a supernatural power or powers considered to be divine or to have control of human destiny b) belief in, worship of, or obedience to a supernatural power or powers considered to be divine or to have control of human destiny
Beside evolution being proved which means it's not a belief, what part of the definition would fit, please ?
gilless429 8 months ago
@clawedification 4th part of answer (phew, so much crap in one comment... how d'you do it ?) "evolution = ancient Babylon demon worship." Oh, fuck... The basis of evolution were put by Charles Darwin. He lived from February 1809 to April 1882, was born in England, and traveled all around the world for his works. Evolution is a scientific theory that does not declare anything about whether a god or demon exists. Which part of any of this is reminiscent of "ancient Babylon demon worship" to you ?
gilless429 8 months ago
@gilless429 Well let me help you out then. Charles Darwin was not the first spend more time researching and you will find that is true.(his uncle and friends) Anyway it does matter the origin of this because you dont know that they are very historical facts about the worship of demons that changed apes into man. Ignorance is not wisdom, you can dream that it is not real all you want but it is.Clay tablets show mans rise from apes they even tell the fairy tale just like now.
clawedification 8 months ago
@clawedification Let you help me out ? What for ? And what the fuck are you saying ? Do you seriously believe evolution is about demons changing apes into man or some bull like that ? If the answer is yes, this conversation is over. I just don't have enough time to waste some talking with someone who doesn't know jack about the theory he so adamantly refuses to consider. I mean some creationists know the theory, but refuse to accept it, but you don't even know the fucking thing...
gilless429 8 months ago
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@clawedification evolution of biological information. thomas d. schneider
Copy and paste that. I suspect you won't read it so it can be roughly summarized as follows. Any gene being selected for can be shown to increase in information. Further that same gene increases in entropy, thus following the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Craigmw45 9 months ago
@clawedification ''show me a mutation that increased the information in the genoe''
Feathers on dinosaurs. They now have over 20 different ones.
gregrutz 8 months ago
@clawedification Oh, lol, the shockofgod argument! FYI, there are many links. None of them are missing. All forms are transitional. You should try at least one high school biology class before you go about taking on people smarter than you on the subject of evolution, since it's apparent you don't really know anything about what evolution states. You know what CREATIONISTS say that evolution says, but that stuff is all wrong.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
Its pretty arrogant to think that 3% of the population is right.
clawedification 9 months ago
@clawedification 3% believes what? Evolution is way over 3%, more like 60% in the developed world, and this is what the video is about, not religion.
Zaunstar 9 months ago 3
@Zaunstar Sorry I was indeed wrong its 4% atheist.btw read the tittle thats what im talking about you have no argument.
clawedification 9 months ago
@Zaunstar I think at least 97 % should accept evolution.. It's a pretty obvious fact.
aboyborninjune 8 months ago
@Zaunstar not to mention it is more than 99.99% in the scientific world. I mean the real one.
assalane 7 months ago
@Zaunstar And also, no religion, not even major ones, can claim 60% of the world's population.
alphaenemy 6 months ago
@clawedification Additionally to what Zaunstar said, argumentum ad populum (or appeal to majority if you prefer) is not a valid confirmation of any point of view. Just because many people believe bullshit doesn't mean bullshit is true. Most people used to believe the earth is flat, and the church even got Galileo burnt to a crisp for saying otherwise (and considering the possibility of an heliocentric system). Yet we're not sitting on a pizza are we ?
gilless429 8 months ago
Yes but bullshit still exists! You typed those words because you learned it from someone else.Your little history lesson is also a popular belief. No knowledge is acquired by a single belief. Even the highly regarded scientific method teaches this. Of course someone is wrong, its just sad to think the self proclaimed brights are kinda somewhat of a big disappointment. As you believe life to be a mistake I surely cant trust your brain to think correctly.
clawedification 8 months ago
@clawedification Yes bullshit exists. Its main manifestation is religion.
It's not a belief if there is verifiable evidence, such as all the writings found of that time that talk of a flat earth as evident and not subject to questioning. Science is knowledge acquired regardless of beliefs, whether those of one person or those of billions. Either you're lying your ass off or your knowledge of science is really small. I don't believe life to be a mistake by the way. ...cont...
gilless429 8 months ago
@clawedification ...cont... A mistake means a mistaken, it implies there was an intended result. I think life happened because there was a given probability that it would and one that it wouldn't, and that time the event that did occur is that of life happening, which does not contradict the laws of probaility and doesn't require any supernatural to work. You believe a magical, celestial, insecure being poofed everything into existence. I believe in facts and evidence. You believe in magic.