CHALDEAN الهوية الكلدانية في الوثائق التاريخية (Chapter 2-Part1)

[goran21715]

(Jeremiah 51:11 ERV)Sharpen the arrows! Get yourshields! The LORD has stirred up the kings of the Medes because he wants to destroy Babylon. The army fromBabylon destroyed his Temple in Jerusalem, so he willgive them the punishment they deserve

[cachannel]

ولك يابه طير انت وقوميتك الفستوقية

[SargonChaldo]

@cachannel you are right modern assyrians are ethnic Chaldeans

[cachannel]

watch?v=JLheWuOEru0

شوفوا هالفيديو واعرفوا حقيقة القومية الشيوعية الكلدانية العربية السرهددلية

[cachannel]

وبعدين هاي من شوكت صرتو قوميين بروسنا 40% منكم شيوعية و40 % بعثية و20% يفتخرون باصولهم الاشورية شوكت صرتوا قوميين براسنا اكبر دليل على دلك علمك القريب من الشيوعية

[cachannel]

هناك جملة دكرت في الفيديو ( ويرغبون في ان يدعوا كلدانا ) معنى الكلام ان هؤلاء ليسوا كلدانا ويرغبون في يدعوا كلدانا

[SargonChaldo]

@cachannel lol poor language you got... its funny how these people never mentioned "Ashuri" people?? that does mean something, that they didnt exist :)

[cachannel]

@SargonChaldo اني دا استغرب من اسمك معقولة كلداني يحط هيجي اسم روح شوف اساميكم الحقيقية محمد حسن حسين علوان كلها اسامي مال عرب

[AssyrianFlavour]

ان الكلدان لم يكونو في اي يوم امه منفصله من الامبراطوريه الآشوريه  هم شعب واحد لغه واحده أرض واحده

[SargonChaldo]

@AssyrianFlavour hahahhaha Chaldeans destroyed the Assyrian Empire and destroyed the ancient assyrians. you are not assyrian the British created you about 250years ago.

CHALDEAN NATION for LIFE

[SargonChaldo]

British created modern assyrians lol u havnt read ur history all of the sudden william wigram tell you u r assyrians n u say yes lol

[SargonChaldo]

PROVIDE SOURCES and READ THE VIDEOI SOURCES. im getting conviced everyday that Assyrians cant debate a subject based on facts and sources or on a civilized level and manner unless its in their favor. Open ur eyes and visualize the truth hurts but thruth helps.

CHALDEAN NATION 4 LIFE

[Eissara]

You are so ignorant the person who wrote the book is Austin Henry Layard and he is the one who told the story as it was told to him by the people he met , they told him how they were forced to become roman catholics when they did not want that ... Stop hiding your head in the sand like an ostrich. You're the one trying to escape the truth because the lies which you are being provided with do not coincide with historical facts and the only thing you know how to do is just to babble.

[SargonChaldo]

lol im escaping? what year was Austin Henry Layard born? have you read my sources? these are people who visted and wrote about Chaldeans before even becoming catholics and you telling me about some one who was around 200years ago!! thats how old your new nation is cause as we all know modern Assyrians were created by the British about 200years ago or maybe 300 . READ THE SOURCES IN THE VIDEO

[Eissara]

Your fabricated sources mention the years 1555 - 1567 and that is the time when the Assyrians from the Church of the East who were forced to become Roman Catholics were called "chaldeans". Ofcourse Austin Henry Layard visited later and he gave his impression of what he had seen. People were complaining to him that they were forced to put pictures in their churches when they did not want that. I gave you the source in arabic but it seems even that does not work with your mentality.

[Eissara]

إنهم من الآشوريين النساطرة الذي أجبروا على اعتناق المذهب الكاثوليكي"، ويتابع لايارد سرده حيث يذكر أنه وصل إلى كنيسة القرية : "على جدران الكنيسة شاهدت بعض الصوَر للقديسين والعذراء بألوان بشعة مع كتابة لاتينية لا تناسب هذا المكان،

[Eissara]

في شمال العراق كما رآه بأم عينيه في أربعينات القرن التاسع عشر، وتحديداً في قرية بيبوزى التابعة لقضاء العمادية، حيث يقول لايارد: .... تابعنا زحفنا نحو العمادية وشاهدنا قرية كلدانية إسمها بيبوزى رابضة على قمة جبل شاهق ... فيها عشرة بيوت مطلة على وادي عميق وسكانها جميعهم فقراء،

[Eissara]

أكثر من كونهم "كاثوليك" كون الكثلكة لم تأتهم بالبشارة بل بالإرهاب والذل، وكمثال مباشر على ذلك نورد سرداً مبسطاً للمستكشف هنري لايارد الذي يصف المشهد البشع لـ"التبشير" الكاثوليكي (الكلدنة)

[Eissara]

Here, open your mind, read and learn:

وبعد قرن من الزمن نرى أبناء كنيسة المشرق في قبرص يتحوّلون إلى "كلدان" بالقوّة في عهد البابا يوليوس الثالث (1550-1555م)، مما يعني بأن الكاثوليك الشرقيين وبشكل خاص من سمـّأهم البابا "كلدان" ليسوا إلا "ضحايا الكثلكة"

[SargonChaldo]

read the sources, i havnt see n any sources provided by you and you haven't proved anything, CHECK THE SOURCES does it hurt when you read the truth.? Assyrian Empire fell to the Chaldeans and we stayed in power as an Empire for 87years after the fall of Assyria, many people believe that Ancient Assyrians have gone and forgotton the modern Assyrians are British made by the Missioneries in order to split Catholics since Chaldeans became part of the Roman Catholic Church

[Eissara]

It's not my fault if you are blind and you can not see. The only time the tribes which were known as Kaldee ruled was for a period of 73 years only and they did not rule after the Medes because they were hit and they were lost in history. Your logic is as twisted as your brain, the Assyrians who were part of the Church of the East were split by the catholic missionaries from their church and named chaldean catholics not the other way around.

[SargonChaldo]

73? where did you get that from? the Chaldeans were in Power from 626 BC until 539 BC so can you show me how did you do the calculations? what level of Maths have you finished? lol show me proof to justify your coffee shop talk.

[Eissara]

The neo-Babylonian rule is the only one known as chaldean and that gives the so-called chaldeans few years extra making it about 88 years. All those who ruled before that have nothing to do with the so-called chaldeans of today, The people who lives in the city of Babylon have nothing to do with the tribes which were known as kalde. Your own sources are saying that the patriarches were known as the patriarchs of Atour. HHHHHH ... Seems you missed that, ayoha al-motakalden.

[Eissara]

The source I put up in arabic is from a person who visited the area and wrote what he saw and the people were the ones who told him that the missionaries got help from the kurds and some clergy in order to force people to become roman catholics, it's not my fault if you do not want to accept the truth because you know once you do that you will shed away the wolf skin which the Vatican has put on you and others like you.

[SargonChaldo]

the person who visited the area was about 200 years ago my sources are people who visited before we becoming Catholics.

[Eissara]

The Chladeans which we read about in history are not today's Chaldeans. You prove to me that today's followers of the Chaldean Roman Catholic Church are related to the ancient Chaldeans. I can prove that those who are today following the Vatican are ethnically Assyrians who were forced by the missionaries to become Roman Catholics, that does not make them related to the ancient Chaldeans does it? Today's the Chaldean Catholic Church is just a religious denomination following the Vatican.

[SargonChaldo]

lol i cant believe how assyrians can deny facts and sources why would you prove 2 me? i've allready proven it by my videos, whatch this video if you can read Arabic its all sourced up on Chaldeans before becomeing Catholics, can you prove to me that these sources are wrong? do u know what Denomination is?? our religion in Christianity and our denomination is Catholic, not what u said there is no religion or denomination called Chaldean u make no sense.

[Eissara]

You're the one who does not want to see the truth even when it hits you in your face. Where did I say that Chaldean by itself is a denomination? Chaldean Catholic is a denomination whether you like it or not and that is officially how it is recognized by your boss the Vatican. Ofcourse the religion is Christianity. As for wrong teachings you should send your comments to the Vatican asking them why they keep teaching that Roman Catholicism is a religion? When it should be a denomination only.

[SargonChaldo]

ahhahaha your funny the truth is infront of you lol

[Eissara]

I should have asked this before, where in history did you read that Sargon was in any way related to Chaldo or is that also part of the so-called new history which some are trying to create? As I said before prove to me that today's Assyrian Catholics a.k.a Chaldean Catholics are ethnically related to the ancient Chaldee who were in the south of what is today Basra in Iraq. If you can not prove the relation you have no argument. If you read arabic try to get a copy of Mar Dali's thesis.

[SargonChaldo]

Sargon King of Akkad havnt you heard of him? i all ready prove to you but your blind WATCH THE VIDEO AND CHECK THE SOURCES hahahahha your funny but i aint mad at you coz ur a typical Assyrian lol Mar dali lol look at my sources be civilzed and not stuborn.

[Eissara]

It seems to me that you're the typical person whose brain has been washed by the clergy who are trying to keep their seats by lying to their flock. You do not have any answers to my questions but it is ok I will keep teaching you until you open your eyes and see clearly the truth yourself so that you can teach others. I'm not mixing ethnicity with religion as you claim it is your clergy who are claiming that the chaldean catholic church is an ethnicity when it is only a church denomination.

[SargonChaldo]

ahahahahha@ your questions to my answers? hahahahah what r your questions 3eni? the video is the answers and at the same time is a question to your questions, so i want you to tell me bout the sources on this video. lol

[Eissara]

If you can get your hand on a copy of Mar Dali's thesis then perhaps your eyes will open and you will see the truth and that truth shall liberate you of the Vatican's spell.

[SargonChaldo]

dont mix religion and ethnicity, until now you dont know what domination is you just being stuborn you're born with hate toward Chaldeans and ur assyrians have taught differnt things on Chaldeans, just like muslims they are brainwashed since they are kids and got hate toward non muslims and you guys got hate toward Chaldeans. READ THE SOURCES AND PROVE THEM WRONG CAN U DO THAT ?

[Eissara]

It seems that the truth has begun to get to you and that is why you're making mistakes in your writing. Rest assured that I know what the word "domination" which you wrote in your post means, it's what the Vatican has been doing to the Assyrian Catholics a.k.a. Chaldean Catholic Church, as I know what the word denomination means which is the Chaldean Catholic denomination. I don't need any one to teach me because I open books and sources and they tell me that you are ethnically Assyrian.

[SargonChaldo]

hahaha r u normal seriously where did i make mistakes in my writing? lol. Domintaion is Domination a simple word is hard for you to understand this video.

[Eissara]

What are you like a kid because that is how your thinking and writing is. HHHHHHHHHH

[SargonChaldo]

i am a kid and you cant answer my questions in a scientific way so imagine when i grow up lol

[Eissara]

Even when you grow up, if you have this mentality you will learn nothing.

[SargonChaldo]

lol you seem uncivilized, unless you check the sources and prove them wrong then you can say that but you know and i know they are true and thats the fact

[Eissara]

By the way this is the same Sarhad Jammo whose father wrote a book talking about how he is Assyrian and how all those who claim themselves to be "chaldeans" are Assyrians. Today this same Sarhad Jammo is denying his roots how do you want me to believe such a person when he is calling his own father a liar !!!

[SargonChaldo]

hhahahah@Sarhad Jammo, 3eni CHECK THE SOURCES the source IS NOT SARHAD JAMMO lolahahhahahahah ur one of those funny assyrians that make me laugh when are afced the truth lol

[Eissara]

You have nothing to say of benefit so you keep laughing like a circus clown and you are only laughing at yourself.

[Eissara]

Check your writing and better put some eye glasses on so that you can correct your mistakes. The word which was in your post was denomination then in the following post you made it domination. You do have many mistakes you should learn how to write and open your brain not a bit but a lot you need it.

[SargonChaldo]

are we having an English lesson? or discussing history? you're leaving the whole subject discussion coz (ops sorry i have to spell the correct word BECAUSE or CAUSE lol) its quite obvious have no answer to this video and sources yet you worry about spelling mistake lol ops do you want me spell it for you? lol believe it or not thats a sign of avoiding the subject. Can you please show me or prove that the sources provided are wrong? PLEASE

[Eissara]

You keep loling like a clown ... You are the one who is hiding behind those so-called sources not me.

History tells it clearly the chaldeans who existed in history had nothing to do with those so-called chaldeans of today. You are Assyrians who are denying their ethnic roots.

[Eissara]

Your video has nothing historical all that is are religious documents so where is history there? and then you say do not mix religion with history? I have seen this video before and all that it proves is that Jammo is struggling to deny his roots as are others.

[SargonChaldo]

hahahahahhaha HAS NO HISTORICAL??? u serious? can you read more like can you understand? the video tells you about Chaldeans, i know it hurts you cause u been taught a brainwshed when u were young. CHECK THE SOURCES.

[Eissara]

It's obvious that you have one of those blindfolds not only on your eyes but also on your brain and that is a pity just like many like you. You call others brainwashed when you have been washed altogether and not only washed.

Today's Chaldean Catholic church followers have nothing to do with the ancient chaldo tribes nor with the people of Babylon. Your so-called historical facts keep mixing the old Chaldee with Babylon when the two have nothing in common.

[SargonChaldo]

3eni stop the blindfold and the cat and mouse games. you cant comment on any of these sources lol

[Eissara]

There is nothing to comment on, those are figment of imagination of some who are like you sleep walking.

[SargonChaldo]

lol you seem uncivilized, unless you check the sources and prove them wrong then you can say that but you know and i know they are true and thats the fact

[Eissara]

You are the one who keeps laughing like a clown and you call others un civilized?

I know that those are fabricated sources and that those so-called chaldeans today are Assyrians who were forced by the Vatican missionaries to become Roman Catholic and that is proven and those who are today called chaldeans are not related to the chaldeans of the south of what is today Iraq.

[SargonChaldo]

u make me laugh cause of ur uncivilized comments and proof lol, can you tell me who are they fabricated? i need something solid to support ur statements its not a coffee shop talk so i expect a source saying the sources provided are fbricated, can u provide that?

[Eissara]

We know that the roman catholic missionaries were all liars and they used the kurds to force the followers of the church of the east to join roman catholicism. There are documented incidents of what they did in the mountains of Assyria in today's north Iraq, the heartland of Assyria.

Liars will always be liars

[SargonChaldo]

thats a differnt subject and you need evidence to support you argument.

this video is about Chaldeans and that Chaldeans existed before becoming Catholics checkout the sources.

[dodofofo]

really nice and good job

[chaldean1people]

good video,

where is the other chapter brother?

[SargonChaldo]

thanks soon bro the other chapters will follow