I don't get it. A space based weapons platform with a docked Gemini. Why the docked Gemini capsule? Even in the 60's it would have been a totally redundant and unnecessary unit for the operations of the platform.
@gforce527 You don't get it, computers were about 10,000 times less powerful then they are today in the 1960's the most powerful computers were the size of an entire building and about 1% as powerful as the computer in your cell phone today, and you would need more then a cell phone to run a space based weapons system.
@spacemooseireland You are mistaken, I do get it. I'm aware computers took up whole buildings at that time, as I'm from the eve of that time. Gemini 1, 2 and Apollo 4,5,6 were run from the ground, and were successful. I'm just saying the gemini capsule with an astronaut, even at that time would have been completely redundant for an orbital weapons platform. After all, ICBMs already existed and certainly weren't manned. As long as ground tracking is maintained, targeting, and firing could occur.
@gforce527 Your comparison of a space based weapons system to an ICBM is a bit misguided. The navigation mechanism for an ICBM was developed in WW2 by the Germans. You need a lot more computer power to be able to shoot down multiple separate moving targets all over the the world in. They were able to have navigation computers in the Apollo moon missions which were controlled mostly from the ground but Gemini was just one step up from Mercury capsules which had no computer control whatsoever.
@spacemooseireland I agree that comparing ICBM`s and orbital platforms is not a straightforward corelation. I was not thinking of the platform in any terms other than something like a stack of MIRV's in orbit poised to strike static targets (ie. enemy cities and military assets). If such a platform were tasked for intercepting missiles, honestly, how effective could a pair of guys in a gemini be at tracking and targeting opposing missiles especially at orbital velocity?
@gforce527 I believe that the Blue Gemini was actually a platform for anti-satellite missiles. As early as the 1960's satellites were being used in the cold war for military surveillance. The whole US space program was originally started (before Sputnik) for launching spy satellites by president Eisenhower (Almost no anti-ICBM weapon is very effective even today.). Blue Gemini in two launches would have been able to change its orbit and hunt down multiple enemy satellites in different orbits.
If this thing really went through, we would have had to replace the USAF with an Orbital Defense Force or something, cause the Blue Gemini would really outdate any military aircraft meant for high altitude or high speed intercept, while we could have an orbital weapons platform with this, and could be anywhere over Earth in just a few minutes.
@helljumpr5150 You know if it had went through then the USSR would have had to deploy thier own space fighter. They did in the end design thier own space fighter which was a modified Salyut type space station, it could change its orbit and called the Universal Service Block or USB (bad name) that had ten long range missiles ( made a model of it once). But they diddnt build it. Thank goodness the Cold War never got hot.
Stud your actually right about that. The USAF had plans during the 60s and 70s to shoot down any objects flying in space they could not identify in space if a war started with the Soviet Union
There also were plans to use the Apollo LEM as an ASAT platform and later plans to use the shuttle as a military vehicle.
The 3000 mile cross range in STS was a requirement of the USAF for polar flights not NASA who preferred a smaller 1600 mile cross range design for their operations.
Also the size of the cargo bay was dictated by the largest NRO payloads and proposed starwars payloads.
Some of the crazier ideas where to actually capture an Almaz station and bring it back.
No dubstep??? Sh*t, wrong video...
danibwr 4 weeks ago
Now teh russians worred, they neva gonna get anything like this, now who gonna mess with democracy now
awey271 4 months ago
@awey271 Are you a redneck?
spacemooseireland 4 months ago 7
@spacemooseireland
No, im actually an asian, good guess though
awey271 4 months ago
i can imagine halo like mac guns becoming a reality within a few years if nasa gets to work
JRhalo14 8 months ago
I don't get it. A space based weapons platform with a docked Gemini. Why the docked Gemini capsule? Even in the 60's it would have been a totally redundant and unnecessary unit for the operations of the platform.
gforce527 11 months ago 3
@gforce527 You don't get it, computers were about 10,000 times less powerful then they are today in the 1960's the most powerful computers were the size of an entire building and about 1% as powerful as the computer in your cell phone today, and you would need more then a cell phone to run a space based weapons system.
spacemooseireland 11 months ago
@spacemooseireland You are mistaken, I do get it. I'm aware computers took up whole buildings at that time, as I'm from the eve of that time. Gemini 1, 2 and Apollo 4,5,6 were run from the ground, and were successful. I'm just saying the gemini capsule with an astronaut, even at that time would have been completely redundant for an orbital weapons platform. After all, ICBMs already existed and certainly weren't manned. As long as ground tracking is maintained, targeting, and firing could occur.
gforce527 11 months ago
@gforce527 Your comparison of a space based weapons system to an ICBM is a bit misguided. The navigation mechanism for an ICBM was developed in WW2 by the Germans. You need a lot more computer power to be able to shoot down multiple separate moving targets all over the the world in. They were able to have navigation computers in the Apollo moon missions which were controlled mostly from the ground but Gemini was just one step up from Mercury capsules which had no computer control whatsoever.
spacemooseireland 11 months ago
@spacemooseireland I agree that comparing ICBM`s and orbital platforms is not a straightforward corelation. I was not thinking of the platform in any terms other than something like a stack of MIRV's in orbit poised to strike static targets (ie. enemy cities and military assets). If such a platform were tasked for intercepting missiles, honestly, how effective could a pair of guys in a gemini be at tracking and targeting opposing missiles especially at orbital velocity?
gforce527 11 months ago
@gforce527 I believe that the Blue Gemini was actually a platform for anti-satellite missiles. As early as the 1960's satellites were being used in the cold war for military surveillance. The whole US space program was originally started (before Sputnik) for launching spy satellites by president Eisenhower (Almost no anti-ICBM weapon is very effective even today.). Blue Gemini in two launches would have been able to change its orbit and hunt down multiple enemy satellites in different orbits.
spacemooseireland 11 months ago
If this thing really went through, we would have had to replace the USAF with an Orbital Defense Force or something, cause the Blue Gemini would really outdate any military aircraft meant for high altitude or high speed intercept, while we could have an orbital weapons platform with this, and could be anywhere over Earth in just a few minutes.
helljumpr5150 1 year ago
@helljumpr5150 You know if it had went through then the USSR would have had to deploy thier own space fighter. They did in the end design thier own space fighter which was a modified Salyut type space station, it could change its orbit and called the Universal Service Block or USB (bad name) that had ten long range missiles ( made a model of it once). But they diddnt build it. Thank goodness the Cold War never got hot.
spacemooseireland 1 year ago
Heh. I worked on that. It never got off the ground, but we sure enjoyed building it.
Aleta with XCOR.
rocketshadow 1 year ago
Imagine:
Blue Gemini Missile Spacecraft
vs
Soviet Polyus: Prototype orbital weapons platform.
HAL11000 2 years ago 10
the usaf was going to try to shoot down ufos!
rocketshipstud2 2 years ago
Stud your actually right about that. The USAF had plans during the 60s and 70s to shoot down any objects flying in space they could not identify in space if a war started with the Soviet Union
spacemooseireland 2 years ago
There also were plans to use the Apollo LEM as an ASAT platform and later plans to use the shuttle as a military vehicle.
The 3000 mile cross range in STS was a requirement of the USAF for polar flights not NASA who preferred a smaller 1600 mile cross range design for their operations.
Also the size of the cargo bay was dictated by the largest NRO payloads and proposed starwars payloads.
Some of the crazier ideas where to actually capture an Almaz station and bring it back.
Membrane556 2 years ago
what program did you use for this?
xav233 2 years ago
Well, the military Salyut space stations 'Almaz' had weapons. Not just pistol for wolves, but a Space Cannon.
Another interesting factoid is that many Canadians who immigrated down south after the cancellation of the Avro Arrow worked on the Gemini.
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