@iknewitalready You are correct but the truth is that Obama is the last of the FOUR HORSEMEN. Obama is DEATH INCARNATE and he brings hell with him while riding on his pale horse (the whitehouse). Obama has brought hell alongside him and the cesspool of Earth has bared witness the many tragedies (Earthquakes from China-Haiti-Chile) as well as the major Oil Spills (China,the Gulf). Death's reign of terror will climax at 2012 which coincides with Obama's presidential term!!
The man who promised CHANGE has offered up nothing but a lot of the SAME. We have been lied to again people!! Let's get ALL of these fools out of office and start fresh again!
Is that your only reason for not supporting the wiretapping? In my opinion, only those who have something to hide should fear however if I am both yes and no for it. Im for it in that it will capture those who are plotting against the government and im against it because I dont want this to evolve into "1984" the book, where if you say anything negative about the government, you disappear. So I have mixed feelings.
I have serious doubts that Mr. Bush is listening to this guy's pathetic cell phone attempts to obtain a date with an actual female. I think he is stuck with his inflatable for a long time.
Funny, but the truth is Bush/Obama/McCain/Hillary......they are all part of the same WWF drama that we call politics. How can people keep wasting their vote on these two parties that are horrible? I just don't get it!
Mr. Libertarian, your political post was the most reasonable I have seen. I vote Conservative, irregardless of any other party... Because my vote goes against the least of the two evils
The Clinton/Bush Sr. race... It was a 3 way split because of the little dweeb jackass twerp Ross Perot. Most everyone DID NOT want Clinton, but he got it anyway... Now I have to work to nearly 68, ass wipe Clinton
Idea: McCain is an example. He is not very Conservative. Merge into a main party and be a mustang
I understand what you are saying but I believe that conservatism in the republican party is dead and isn't coming back. The Reagan revolution did very little when benckmarked to the overall cuts needed to keep our prosperity. I also disagree with the civil liberties infringements of the republican party. Through the years 3rd parties have popped up and changed the political scene even if that means only getting picked up by another party. Education is my main goal, the libertarian party is right
Mr. Libertarian: I personally feel the Nation is in a downward spiral, irregardless of political parties. Clay feet. I as a voter have only one cast to improve the Country. Some feel they have 30 per magazine, that I reserve for an inevitable time at some point in the future when this Nation crumbles.
Your views seem more closely aligned with the liberals. Please do a youtube search on the words below. Gingrich is right.
I consider myself to be the true conservative, much more than the republicans of late can attest to. I also believe this country is on a downhill spiral and I also believe it is because of a lack of liberties and economic freedom. Why am I a liberal? Nation building is a liberal ideology. Increasing medicare and medicaid is liberal. Lose controls on our borders is liberal. Doubling the department of education and starting programs like NCLB is liberal. The libertarians fight the govt growth.
Also, Mr. Libertarian: Michigan is in a sad state of affairs because their economy was based in the automotive industry. Nowadays, a vast number of cars' names end in a vowel and that which doesn't, many internal components are made overseas.
We have shot ourselves in the foot. We have imposed stringent environmental and labor standards on American manufacturing, while China does whatever the hell they want. Their cars/truck do not have to meet any standard, Beijing's air is THICK!
Our country is in problems because the government and unions have destroyed our industries. As economic freedom is lost and corporate welfare starts, it isn't long before oligopolization begins and a softer tinge of fascism hits. The democrats and republicans are both guilty! The libertarian ideals are what made this country strong....Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington. These ideals of less welfare/warfare state is what made America a safehaven to the rest of the world!
Actually, organized labor is what changed the face of America for the better. As the song goes "I owe my soul to the company store"
What labor is doing today: It is a menacing threat to companies like Wal-mart. That threat keeps the money and fringes a bit brighter, though not a shining star.
The hypocritical Labor, they prey on what is LEFT to organize. If they really wanted members honorable, they would fight to keep companies here in America, whether organized or not. Kind of greedy.
Also #2, Mr. Libertarian: No one in D.C. has the insight to see our clay feet, nor the courage to change anything if they could see.
Medical advancements has changed health care from setting bones for the cost of a farm animal, to an American right. That $30 aspirin pays for those who don't, and the Republicans are so blind they can not see we already have socialized medicine, on the backs of people like me who work and is self supporting.
I already know all this.....why do you think I disagree? I am a libertarian...the true conservative! Why do you keep acting like I believe in wealth redistribution and taxes and loss of property rights? I feel the exact same way you do!
Therefore, Mr. Libertarian: The morals of America have been flushed down the toilet, generally speaking the Conservatives are the only hold outs.
Whores spread their legs and breed, and I pay for it. Male whores move from hole to hole spreading their seed, and I pay for it. Welfare is for a temporary safety net, NOT A GOD DAMN WAY OF LIFE!
NASA built the Starduster upside down and the chute wouldn't open, wrong lens on Hubbel and wouldn't listen to the "O" ring manufacturer. TRILLIONS OF $
In closing Mr. Libertarian: I have to get to WORK... Just like you and millions of others.
Washington AND THE F#&@!!ing COURTS are flushing our Nation down the crapper including the Libertarians. Civil liberties? I am all for it, yet why in the hell does the RIGHT of the ONE totally and completely outweigh the RIGHTS of the MANY? The MANY Boy Scouts have the RIGHT not to have homosexuals influence them, yet the single homosexual RIGHT comes first. The pendulum has swung way to the left.
The truth is the government should not be regulating a private organization like the Boy Scouts. When the government stepped in a told the boy scouts how to run their organization that was the main infringement from the left. This is a huge trump of state sovereignty as well as private ownership. This breach of our freedom is against the constitution. Question for you: What does left and right mean to you?
watch?v=V-4kCD4nbrw
This might clarify a more efficient benchmarking for our terms.
The fact that Obama has done this, leaves me feeling so abandoned. He's ruining his chance and McCain could win because of it. If McCain wins, nothing is really going to change. Canada anyone?
George Washington is pissed no one understands the libertarian platform......and that people are playing into the hands of the democrats and republicans big special interest groups instead of what is best for the nation.....
The republicans and democrats are there own corporations......
If you think they care about you and your family then we got a slap in the face coming. Did you know that Hitler was the candidate for the socialists worker's party? Don't worry, socialism is good right? Ha!
Libertarian party anyone? It's time for REAL CHANGE!!! Please check out my page and please don't vote for the dems/reps. They are the true waste of a vote! Study the libertarian message, you will find it better than the republicdans and democrats especially on a federal level!!!
Obama and McCain are all bought off, I think R.Paul could have done it like Perot, Perot said the same thing as R.Paul. If you remember the Rev. war it was started over taxes, and the Civil War even though ppl think Lincoln was a good man but he started and fought it with English Bank money. What happened? They used the freedom of slaves to get the North to fight but really all that happened was Federal Enslavement where there was total State Soverignty before.There are no Soverign states now.:(
1. Yes we need protection from terrorists who are in this country communicating with their leaders to plan attacks.
2. Yes, the telecom companies need immunity from blame for doing this surveillance.
3. UNLIKE the original bill, which allowed the Bush administration to bypass the FISA courts, ALL eavesdropping NOW needs to be done by a court-approved warrant.
4. The Attorney General will prosecute any case, past present or future that was done illegally.
Right on brother. Don't let the fact that most people can't see the truth keep you from sharing it. We need more brave patriots to run for office with this kind of passion cause at the end of the day the only person you can trust is yourself.
Obama has betrayed us on FISA and is now back peddling on Iraq... I think I'll just stay at home in November. It appears their are no saviors, no heros, no one with a backbone and our country is lost. So who do we vote for next?
Vote for Ron Paul. Write him in. Normally I would say vote libertarian, but unfortunately, Bob Barr is a big fat liar, so I would not vote for him.
Ron Pauls support while in some ways very encouraging - he could get 20% in a general election - is not enough and just shows that the brainwashing has already been done on most americans through the schools and media. These people are for the most part impervious to logic or new ideas.
All rational people realize Obama is a lying politician.
Michelle Obama is a CFR member, Obama says he'll withdraw from Iraq, but the Pentagon has plans to stay in Iraq fore DECADES. Who does Obama think he's kidding about Iraq? Obama promises to expand the US military & greatly increase 'Defense' spending. Obama kissed the dual-citizenship Israeli's butts at the last AIPAC conference. Then Obama bent over for the Bilderbergers, and now he's at Bohemian Grove. Like Colon Bowell & Condosleezza Rice, Borat Osama is just another 'White House negro'.
"Civil immununity only, NOT criminal immunity. You're understanding on this issue is flawed."
Winning a criminal conviction would be almost impossible, ask any lawyer, that is why they left it in.
Your the one who doesn't know what he's talking about, this legislation is a complete betrayal of the 4th amendment, and Obama's reversal on this issue is a complete betrayal of his supporters, although most of them are too stupid to admit it.
Want to fight FISA and get free phone service? Just act like a loon over the phone to the phone company as you complain about the bill. Throw in a few idle threats, nothing serious. They'll listen in to keep informed while you feed 'em bs. The feds won't let the phone companies cut you off!
If everyone did this, the FISA bill will go down in flames quick!
It is truly amazing how stupid the government is.
Free phone service for everone! Take that AT&T you bastards!
If 10 people stopped paying their phone bills, they'd act swiftly and sharply. If 1000 people stopped paying their phone bills, they'd think it was a movement. And if 100 thousand people just stopped paying their phone bills, yes Friends, if just 100 thousand folks just stopped paying their phone bills while whistling a bar of Alice's Restaurant then walking out...they'd realize they'd been caught and pretend they never really proposed such a crazy idea in the first place.
- EVERY search requires a warrant, even for foreign taps, which were not required under the older form of FISA
-The Pre-existing law already gave immunity to telecoms if they had a warrant but also, in absence of a warrant, if they were acting on the request of the Attorney General. This is what was removed
The Telecoms can still be held liable if it is shown that the
Attorney General did not approve. Like it or not that was the law
- EVERY search requires a warrant, even for foreign taps, which were not required under the older form of FISA
-The Pre-existing law already gave immunity to telecoms if they had a warrant but also, in absence of a warrant, if they were acting on the request of the Attorney General. This is what was removed
The Telecoms can still be held liable if it is shown that the
Attorney General did not approve. Like it or not that was the law u cant
Is this the "change" that Sen. Obama SAID he would bring? He sounds just like W. If he has already sold out in July, what will he be standing for in October? What does he have for a backbone, marshmellows?
Livri: last time i checked liberals were not the only americans. We cant and should NOT have it our way all the time. I want a flexible president i want a president that leads the entire USA not just liberals... and if you listened during the primaries you would have known that that was what he planned to do...
Foto 1976: Anyone who had really listened to waht Obama said during the primary would have no idea what he would say today. Goodwin said it best today in the NY Daily News. "A man who believes in everything believes in nothing, and that's a formula for chaos in the White House." Keep listening...
Ideology is no way to run a diverse secular country. Should we force everyone to follow christian law... NO. then why should we ask everyone to follow liberal ideology.
This is everyones America not just yours. If you agreed with Obama 100% something would be deeply wrong.
quick: first off you are miss quoting russ... he said that the members were not fully brief on the wire tapping program (watch?v=iFB5rgiMy8M&feature=related) not the bill.
94 Dems voted along with obama but you choose to thing that Russ knows more than all of them. Russ just wants to look tough because he knows that thats what the voters want. Obama believes that this compromise is important to get FISA to start oversite on the government again.watch?v=NKgdWB6AFhw
Yes, as long as you do as your told, you have nothing to worry about. Who needs freedom? The government is good and is looking out for you best interest. Just ask the indians.
Yes...and This REVERSES those 30 years of protection. Are you brain dead? You obviously have NO IDEA what you are even commenting about! No wonder the country is such a mess.
He is starting to show that he isnt who I thought he was I dont want another Nancy Pelosi who saids one thing yet votes with GOP. I am starting to look at Independents now he is saying no time table about leaving Iraq and perhaps Bushs spying might be needed. I wont throw my vote away . I supported him completely and sent him money now I am not so sure .
Obama should have said that there wasn't enough information available to him to vote in favor of this legislation. After all, all of the particulars have been sealed by the President. It's a clear violation of the Constitution and someone with a law degree and a member of the Harvard Law Review should know that. This speech was bullshit pandering.
Obamma is a lier and an opportunist who recieved 1.6 million dollars in kick backs from lezco whom he helped rip of the government for over one hundred million dollars so Obama could buy a mansion in Hyde park chicago south east side.
Folks, you nee to see the bigger picture. By supporting this imperfect bill he can avoid being painted soft on terrorism, the main attack point of McSame and the GOP.
On the other hand, the constitution is the highest law, and any bill conflicting with the constitution or its amendments can be sent to the courts for repeal.
Obama himself said the bill was flawed, and as Prez he would have it revised to abide the constitution.
Watch YT v=vRAXctYre6M (K.Olberman and J.Dean) skip to 3:24
ObamaRama's aura fades quickly with his FISA crap. We can only hope he's politically just trying 2 look, so-called, " strong-on-security", & he will not B pro-spy when he gets in office. Otherwise, BO's complicit with our war mongering, USA military industrial complex, as R all the lying Reflublicants. USA citizens will continue to get less & less, unless they organize millions of fellow citizens 2force our gov't 2 obey our hallowed Constitution & get leaders who adequately represent our wishes.
You should've wrote "Yes I'm Crazy" aswell. I am disappointed myself in Obama, but you think Hillary would've done otherwise? You think McCain would've done othewise
It's not the point what Clinton or McCain would have done. This is a video about Barack Obama - not them.
You think that just because other people are willing to betray the Oath of Office they took to be in the Senate, and almost totally destroy the fourth amendment in the Bill of Rights, that it's okay for Obama?
How much can I take? Obama needs to appeal to Independents as well as Republicans to win this thing, I mean one cannot depend on the irrational Hillary supporters. He has to play this game to win. You're behaving like a damn baby -
NEWSFLASH: the government has been spying on us for decades! There are other issues why Obama is better than McCain, but if you're gonna use this as a reason not to vote for the Black Dem nominee, then go right ahead!
Obama has appealed to Independents and even some Republicans all the time. He himself said that they do so despite of their disagreement to some of his positions. They did because he was a different kind of politician, a politician who really seemed to to honest and care about the issues and bringing people together to solve problems. And now he is destroying that reputation and acting like a tipical oppurtunistic lying politician.
nyprogressive: Its always about what mccain would have done remember this election is never about one man its about a choose between 2 men. If you dont get Obama you get Mccain so it is always about both of them.
So Obama wins on this one because mccain would have taken the bill that had no amendments.
The truth is, if Obama had voted against the FISA bill it would have strengthened his position, the vast majority of democrats are against FISA as are most independents.
This theory that voting for FISA is a move to the center and therefore good strategy is false and has been the zeitigeist that the establishment press has put out for years to make compromises with tyranny more acceptable to the masses.
Good point. I agree. However I don't think this is a move to the center, but to the far right. How could voting to debilitate the constitution be a move to the center?
Obama said he would support the Constitution & oppose FISA Amendment Act & its program of unlimited spying powers for George W. Bush. Now he supports the Bush warrantless wiretapping spy program. Obama even says he will continue this program if elected President... He has betrayed us - & he's proved he's just as rotten as the rest of the candidates.
-- sad thing: Hillary would not've filibustered telco immununity either. that leaves no one.
Do you even know what the bill said... First Obama said he would vote for the old bill he is voting for the new bill because it limits the president even more than the original law.
now instead of the attorney general having spy power a warrant will always be required
Yeah, I do. And Russ Feingold warned his colleagues that only 10-15 of the 100 member body had been briefed with the full details of the bill, and the programs it ratified, due to their lack of top secret security clearance. But Russ is on the intelligence committee-- & pleaded with his colleagues to come to a briefing he could conduct which would expose why this bill is so much more harmful than perceived. He knows more than you or I do: watch. v=EdlUgPmgXUs
Give a jillion dollars to Bob Barr! He is the sane argument for president of the United States of America in an election between a war monger who is despised by the base of his party, and an inexperienced promise-breaking orator who just came on the national scene too quickly.
Think beyond him being a Libertarian, having a lame vice-president, and little zest --- Bob Barr is the person that we NEED to win the 2008 election during a troubled time.
Orsen wells predicted this long ago.all you can do is resist and fight for change.america needs revolution.
condemned13 10 months ago
@iknewitalready You are correct but the truth is that Obama is the last of the FOUR HORSEMEN. Obama is DEATH INCARNATE and he brings hell with him while riding on his pale horse (the whitehouse). Obama has brought hell alongside him and the cesspool of Earth has bared witness the many tragedies (Earthquakes from China-Haiti-Chile) as well as the major Oil Spills (China,the Gulf). Death's reign of terror will climax at 2012 which coincides with Obama's presidential term!!
brunfist 1 year ago
all of you are just racist whites give me one reason how he has betrayed U.S.A! noobs!
legoteststudios 2 years ago
nigger
apezwijn 2 years ago
tip don't sign a check on youtbe if you want to protect your id
imaginepeace63 2 years ago
The man who promised CHANGE has offered up nothing but a lot of the SAME. We have been lied to again people!! Let's get ALL of these fools out of office and start fresh again!
OoLaLaFrenchGirl 2 years ago
Your gonna love when the NWO unlease obamas civilian spys . Welcome to big brother people
ozzycriss 2 years ago
What did you expect? The kool-aid doesn't have nice withdrawal symptoms does it?
JohananRaatz 2 years ago
Is that your only reason for not supporting the wiretapping? In my opinion, only those who have something to hide should fear however if I am both yes and no for it. Im for it in that it will capture those who are plotting against the government and im against it because I dont want this to evolve into "1984" the book, where if you say anything negative about the government, you disappear. So I have mixed feelings.
chubs6579 3 years ago
Do you have nothing to hide? Not even your personal life? Would you post every detail about your personal life on youtube?
zimmerface 2 years ago
I have serious doubts that Mr. Bush is listening to this guy's pathetic cell phone attempts to obtain a date with an actual female. I think he is stuck with his inflatable for a long time.
CaptainFreon 3 years ago
Funny, but the truth is Bush/Obama/McCain/Hillary......they are all part of the same WWF drama that we call politics. How can people keep wasting their vote on these two parties that are horrible? I just don't get it!
shanklinmike 3 years ago
Mr. Libertarian, your political post was the most reasonable I have seen. I vote Conservative, irregardless of any other party... Because my vote goes against the least of the two evils
The Clinton/Bush Sr. race... It was a 3 way split because of the little dweeb jackass twerp Ross Perot. Most everyone DID NOT want Clinton, but he got it anyway... Now I have to work to nearly 68, ass wipe Clinton
Idea: McCain is an example. He is not very Conservative. Merge into a main party and be a mustang
CaptainFreon 3 years ago
I understand what you are saying but I believe that conservatism in the republican party is dead and isn't coming back. The Reagan revolution did very little when benckmarked to the overall cuts needed to keep our prosperity. I also disagree with the civil liberties infringements of the republican party. Through the years 3rd parties have popped up and changed the political scene even if that means only getting picked up by another party. Education is my main goal, the libertarian party is right
shanklinmike 3 years ago
Mr. Libertarian: I personally feel the Nation is in a downward spiral, irregardless of political parties. Clay feet. I as a voter have only one cast to improve the Country. Some feel they have 30 per magazine, that I reserve for an inevitable time at some point in the future when this Nation crumbles.
Your views seem more closely aligned with the liberals. Please do a youtube search on the words below. Gingrich is right.
Gingrich: I'm deeply worried
CaptainFreon 3 years ago
I consider myself to be the true conservative, much more than the republicans of late can attest to. I also believe this country is on a downhill spiral and I also believe it is because of a lack of liberties and economic freedom. Why am I a liberal? Nation building is a liberal ideology. Increasing medicare and medicaid is liberal. Lose controls on our borders is liberal. Doubling the department of education and starting programs like NCLB is liberal. The libertarians fight the govt growth.
shanklinmike 3 years ago
Also, Mr. Libertarian: Michigan is in a sad state of affairs because their economy was based in the automotive industry. Nowadays, a vast number of cars' names end in a vowel and that which doesn't, many internal components are made overseas.
We have shot ourselves in the foot. We have imposed stringent environmental and labor standards on American manufacturing, while China does whatever the hell they want. Their cars/truck do not have to meet any standard, Beijing's air is THICK!
CaptainFreon 3 years ago
Our country is in problems because the government and unions have destroyed our industries. As economic freedom is lost and corporate welfare starts, it isn't long before oligopolization begins and a softer tinge of fascism hits. The democrats and republicans are both guilty! The libertarian ideals are what made this country strong....Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington. These ideals of less welfare/warfare state is what made America a safehaven to the rest of the world!
shanklinmike 3 years ago
Actually, organized labor is what changed the face of America for the better. As the song goes "I owe my soul to the company store"
What labor is doing today: It is a menacing threat to companies like Wal-mart. That threat keeps the money and fringes a bit brighter, though not a shining star.
The hypocritical Labor, they prey on what is LEFT to organize. If they really wanted members honorable, they would fight to keep companies here in America, whether organized or not. Kind of greedy.
CaptainFreon 3 years ago
Also #2, Mr. Libertarian: No one in D.C. has the insight to see our clay feet, nor the courage to change anything if they could see.
Medical advancements has changed health care from setting bones for the cost of a farm animal, to an American right. That $30 aspirin pays for those who don't, and the Republicans are so blind they can not see we already have socialized medicine, on the backs of people like me who work and is self supporting.
Liberals TAX the haves for the HAVE-WONT'S!
CaptainFreon 3 years ago
I already know all this.....why do you think I disagree? I am a libertarian...the true conservative! Why do you keep acting like I believe in wealth redistribution and taxes and loss of property rights? I feel the exact same way you do!
shanklinmike 3 years ago
Therefore, Mr. Libertarian: The morals of America have been flushed down the toilet, generally speaking the Conservatives are the only hold outs.
Whores spread their legs and breed, and I pay for it. Male whores move from hole to hole spreading their seed, and I pay for it. Welfare is for a temporary safety net, NOT A GOD DAMN WAY OF LIFE!
NASA built the Starduster upside down and the chute wouldn't open, wrong lens on Hubbel and wouldn't listen to the "O" ring manufacturer. TRILLIONS OF $
CaptainFreon 3 years ago
In closing Mr. Libertarian: I have to get to WORK... Just like you and millions of others.
Washington AND THE F#&@!!ing COURTS are flushing our Nation down the crapper including the Libertarians. Civil liberties? I am all for it, yet why in the hell does the RIGHT of the ONE totally and completely outweigh the RIGHTS of the MANY? The MANY Boy Scouts have the RIGHT not to have homosexuals influence them, yet the single homosexual RIGHT comes first. The pendulum has swung way to the left.
CaptainFreon 3 years ago
The truth is the government should not be regulating a private organization like the Boy Scouts. When the government stepped in a told the boy scouts how to run their organization that was the main infringement from the left. This is a huge trump of state sovereignty as well as private ownership. This breach of our freedom is against the constitution. Question for you: What does left and right mean to you?
watch?v=V-4kCD4nbrw
This might clarify a more efficient benchmarking for our terms.
shanklinmike 3 years ago
I have learned some stuff. I got on a soap box, but it was a good box. I will look into the link below.
CaptainFreon 3 years ago
The fact that Obama has done this, leaves me feeling so abandoned. He's ruining his chance and McCain could win because of it. If McCain wins, nothing is really going to change. Canada anyone?
ShootinStarLooker1 3 years ago
I know that FOXNEWS is spying on AMERICANS with their TV satellites. George Washington must be turning over in his grave.
bleddyn1969 3 years ago
George Washington is pissed no one understands the libertarian platform......and that people are playing into the hands of the democrats and republicans big special interest groups instead of what is best for the nation.....
The republicans and democrats are there own corporations......
If you think they care about you and your family then we got a slap in the face coming. Did you know that Hitler was the candidate for the socialists worker's party? Don't worry, socialism is good right? Ha!
shanklinmike 3 years ago
Libertarian party anyone? It's time for REAL CHANGE!!! Please check out my page and please don't vote for the dems/reps. They are the true waste of a vote! Study the libertarian message, you will find it better than the republicdans and democrats especially on a federal level!!!
shanklinmike 3 years ago
Obama and McCain are all bought off, I think R.Paul could have done it like Perot, Perot said the same thing as R.Paul. If you remember the Rev. war it was started over taxes, and the Civil War even though ppl think Lincoln was a good man but he started and fought it with English Bank money. What happened? They used the freedom of slaves to get the North to fight but really all that happened was Federal Enslavement where there was total State Soverignty before.There are no Soverign states now.:(
snowfallzz 3 years ago
I see you don't understand.
1. Yes we need protection from terrorists who are in this country communicating with their leaders to plan attacks.
2. Yes, the telecom companies need immunity from blame for doing this surveillance.
3. UNLIKE the original bill, which allowed the Bush administration to bypass the FISA courts, ALL eavesdropping NOW needs to be done by a court-approved warrant.
4. The Attorney General will prosecute any case, past present or future that was done illegally.
Obama 08
Swatantra100 3 years ago
BO's politics is about fooling enough people enough of the time. It was obvious the minute you read about his shady background.
kcwin 3 years ago
Well said body!
MustacheVerra 3 years ago
Right on brother. Don't let the fact that most people can't see the truth keep you from sharing it. We need more brave patriots to run for office with this kind of passion cause at the end of the day the only person you can trust is yourself.
xdeath2tyrantsx 3 years ago
You flaming liberals must feel so betrayed by BO. You gotta sell your soul if you want to be President of the USA.
skwashdis 3 years ago
Obama has betrayed us on FISA and is now back peddling on Iraq... I think I'll just stay at home in November. It appears their are no saviors, no heros, no one with a backbone and our country is lost. So who do we vote for next?
ivanbunny25 3 years ago
Vote for Ron Paul. Write him in. Normally I would say vote libertarian, but unfortunately, Bob Barr is a big fat liar, so I would not vote for him.
Ron Pauls support while in some ways very encouraging - he could get 20% in a general election - is not enough and just shows that the brainwashing has already been done on most americans through the schools and media. These people are for the most part impervious to logic or new ideas.
All rational people realize Obama is a lying politician.
jackson32 3 years ago
Michelle Obama is a CFR member, Obama says he'll withdraw from Iraq, but the Pentagon has plans to stay in Iraq fore DECADES. Who does Obama think he's kidding about Iraq? Obama promises to expand the US military & greatly increase 'Defense' spending. Obama kissed the dual-citizenship Israeli's butts at the last AIPAC conference. Then Obama bent over for the Bilderbergers, and now he's at Bohemian Grove. Like Colon Bowell & Condosleezza Rice, Borat Osama is just another 'White House negro'.
GregoryFFegel 3 years ago 2
Civil immununity only, NOT criminal immunity. You're understanding on this issue is flawed.
Constantone 3 years ago
"Civil immununity only, NOT criminal immunity. You're understanding on this issue is flawed."
Winning a criminal conviction would be almost impossible, ask any lawyer, that is why they left it in.
Your the one who doesn't know what he's talking about, this legislation is a complete betrayal of the 4th amendment, and Obama's reversal on this issue is a complete betrayal of his supporters, although most of them are too stupid to admit it.
jackson32 3 years ago
Hillary has never supported immunity for telecoms.
reevaluate2008 3 years ago
Want to fight FISA and get free phone service? Just act like a loon over the phone to the phone company as you complain about the bill. Throw in a few idle threats, nothing serious. They'll listen in to keep informed while you feed 'em bs. The feds won't let the phone companies cut you off!
If everyone did this, the FISA bill will go down in flames quick!
It is truly amazing how stupid the government is.
Free phone service for everone! Take that AT&T you bastards!
Zile77 3 years ago
If 10 people stopped paying their phone bills, they'd act swiftly and sharply. If 1000 people stopped paying their phone bills, they'd think it was a movement. And if 100 thousand people just stopped paying their phone bills, yes Friends, if just 100 thousand folks just stopped paying their phone bills while whistling a bar of Alice's Restaurant then walking out...they'd realize they'd been caught and pretend they never really proposed such a crazy idea in the first place.
Leisnash 3 years ago
no one i know even knows about this. What is happening to everyday people.
AAutocaravan 3 years ago
I say we regroup around Ron Paul.
jannonymous 3 years ago
What FISA really says:
- EVERY search requires a warrant, even for foreign taps, which were not required under the older form of FISA
-The Pre-existing law already gave immunity to telecoms if they had a warrant but also, in absence of a warrant, if they were acting on the request of the Attorney General. This is what was removed
The Telecoms can still be held liable if it is shown that the
Attorney General did not approve. Like it or not that was the law
Foto1976 3 years ago
What FISA really says:
- EVERY search requires a warrant, even for foreign taps, which were not required under the older form of FISA
-The Pre-existing law already gave immunity to telecoms if they had a warrant but also, in absence of a warrant, if they were acting on the request of the Attorney General. This is what was removed
The Telecoms can still be held liable if it is shown that the
Attorney General did not approve. Like it or not that was the law u cant
Foto1976 3 years ago
Is this the "change" that Sen. Obama SAID he would bring? He sounds just like W. If he has already sold out in July, what will he be standing for in October? What does he have for a backbone, marshmellows?
livri 3 years ago
Livri: last time i checked liberals were not the only americans. We cant and should NOT have it our way all the time. I want a flexible president i want a president that leads the entire USA not just liberals... and if you listened during the primaries you would have known that that was what he planned to do...
Foto1976 3 years ago
Foto 1976: Anyone who had really listened to waht Obama said during the primary would have no idea what he would say today. Goodwin said it best today in the NY Daily News. "A man who believes in everything believes in nothing, and that's a formula for chaos in the White House." Keep listening...
livri 3 years ago
Ideology is no way to run a diverse secular country. Should we force everyone to follow christian law... NO. then why should we ask everyone to follow liberal ideology.
This is everyones America not just yours. If you agreed with Obama 100% something would be deeply wrong.
Foto1976 3 years ago
quick: first off you are miss quoting russ... he said that the members were not fully brief on the wire tapping program (watch?v=iFB5rgiMy8M&feature=related) not the bill.
94 Dems voted along with obama but you choose to thing that Russ knows more than all of them. Russ just wants to look tough because he knows that thats what the voters want. Obama believes that this compromise is important to get FISA to start oversite on the government again.watch?v=NKgdWB6AFhw
Foto1976 3 years ago
Was this the price Obama had to pay to Hoyer and the DLC mafia in exchange for Hillary standing aside?
ekowyrm 3 years ago
he won't get elected! we need to make sure of it! i'm changing my vote for McCain....he is not a liar!
joanna0902 3 years ago
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Hey, Obama promised change. What no one imagined was he meant changing his promises, his commitments, his convictions.
Ask yourself, where does he draw the line? So much for his promise to restore the bill of rights and constitution.
Write in Ron Paul because it won't be too late until Nov 5th.
alicepaul2 3 years ago
Right on brother!!!!!!! Lets think about the only candidate that supports our right to privacy! Nader Nader Nader Nader
kristamckenna 3 years ago
Obama has you sheep in the palm of his hand....
breakfastisready 3 years ago
Obama blew it....
trumath57 3 years ago
Just don't talk to terrorist . You'll be fine.
nesnman 3 years ago
Cut his nuts off Jessie! Of couse you'll have to ask michelle to open her purse. LOL!
0bomination 3 years ago
cmon u guys get real the fisa bills been around for 30 years
besides unless u frequently call al queda u have nothing to worry about
20giftcard 3 years ago
Yes, as long as you do as your told, you have nothing to worry about. Who needs freedom? The government is good and is looking out for you best interest. Just ask the indians.
bgayle924 3 years ago
Yes...and This REVERSES those 30 years of protection. Are you brain dead? You obviously have NO IDEA what you are even commenting about! No wonder the country is such a mess.
phlashba 3 years ago 2
u dont kno wat im tryin to say do u?
since everyones makin like obamas the one who brought this bill into power..
there were 68 other members of the senate who voted for it and like i said the bills been around since nixon
if u can read i suggest u read the new bill
obviously u dont becuz if u did u would understand wats goin on
20giftcard 3 years ago
Kick ass! I love the check thing man, nice work.
rumbleshorts 3 years ago
I'm shocked, SHOCKED! that he would lie to me!...your winnings, sir...oh, thank you very much...BUISINESS AS USUAL!
vincentvangogh12 3 years ago
great reference...
CRAPCANNONS 3 years ago
Fuck you barak
markkienan 3 years ago 3
He is starting to show that he isnt who I thought he was I dont want another Nancy Pelosi who saids one thing yet votes with GOP. I am starting to look at Independents now he is saying no time table about leaving Iraq and perhaps Bushs spying might be needed. I wont throw my vote away . I supported him completely and sent him money now I am not so sure .
SnowflakeMoray 3 years ago 4
MOST EXCELLENT!
This speaks for millions of Americans who have been betrayed by Obama.
denaliana 3 years ago
Obama should have said that there wasn't enough information available to him to vote in favor of this legislation. After all, all of the particulars have been sealed by the President. It's a clear violation of the Constitution and someone with a law degree and a member of the Harvard Law Review should know that. This speech was bullshit pandering.
madisonhack 3 years ago 3
Obamma is a lier and an opportunist who recieved 1.6 million dollars in kick backs from lezco whom he helped rip of the government for over one hundred million dollars so Obama could buy a mansion in Hyde park chicago south east side.
franklapore 3 years ago
Folks, you nee to see the bigger picture. By supporting this imperfect bill he can avoid being painted soft on terrorism, the main attack point of McSame and the GOP.
On the other hand, the constitution is the highest law, and any bill conflicting with the constitution or its amendments can be sent to the courts for repeal.
Obama himself said the bill was flawed, and as Prez he would have it revised to abide the constitution.
Watch YT v=vRAXctYre6M (K.Olberman and J.Dean) skip to 3:24
struwwwell 3 years ago
I was proud of what Congressman Ron Paul said and voted NO. Good old Dr. NO. We love YOU!
And a shout out to Denis Kucinich. You rock!
Treg007 3 years ago
ObamaRama's aura fades quickly with his FISA crap. We can only hope he's politically just trying 2 look, so-called, " strong-on-security", & he will not B pro-spy when he gets in office. Otherwise, BO's complicit with our war mongering, USA military industrial complex, as R all the lying Reflublicants. USA citizens will continue to get less & less, unless they organize millions of fellow citizens 2force our gov't 2 obey our hallowed Constitution & get leaders who adequately represent our wishes.
warhater 3 years ago
Hey, this is when the anarchists say "ha." to the Obama people.
He's just another politician.
spikedanstudded 3 years ago 4
I love how politicians make us eat our words...back to having no faith in our politicians/government for me.
Moviebro 3 years ago 2
wow, i dont like hearing this...Obama needs to slow down on fisa....it's dangerous to support fisa shit like this...
kingrexrex666 3 years ago
You should've wrote "Yes I'm Crazy" aswell. I am disappointed myself in Obama, but you think Hillary would've done otherwise? You think McCain would've done othewise
islezeus 3 years ago
It's not the point what Clinton or McCain would have done. This is a video about Barack Obama - not them.
You think that just because other people are willing to betray the Oath of Office they took to be in the Senate, and almost totally destroy the fourth amendment in the Bill of Rights, that it's okay for Obama?
How much more abuse will you take?
nyprogressive 3 years ago
How much can I take? Obama needs to appeal to Independents as well as Republicans to win this thing, I mean one cannot depend on the irrational Hillary supporters. He has to play this game to win. You're behaving like a damn baby -
NEWSFLASH: the government has been spying on us for decades! There are other issues why Obama is better than McCain, but if you're gonna use this as a reason not to vote for the Black Dem nominee, then go right ahead!
islezeus 3 years ago
Obama has appealed to Independents and even some Republicans all the time. He himself said that they do so despite of their disagreement to some of his positions. They did because he was a different kind of politician, a politician who really seemed to to honest and care about the issues and bringing people together to solve problems. And now he is destroying that reputation and acting like a tipical oppurtunistic lying politician.
frankj1000 3 years ago
He always was that... just got out of his sheeps clothing...LOL... finding out is a bitch isn't it!!1
barbsadoll10 3 years ago
nyprogressive: Its always about what mccain would have done remember this election is never about one man its about a choose between 2 men. If you dont get Obama you get Mccain so it is always about both of them.
So Obama wins on this one because mccain would have taken the bill that had no amendments.
Foto1976 3 years ago
The truth is, if Obama had voted against the FISA bill it would have strengthened his position, the vast majority of democrats are against FISA as are most independents.
This theory that voting for FISA is a move to the center and therefore good strategy is false and has been the zeitigeist that the establishment press has put out for years to make compromises with tyranny more acceptable to the masses.
jackson32 3 years ago
Good point. I agree. However I don't think this is a move to the center, but to the far right. How could voting to debilitate the constitution be a move to the center?
livri 3 years ago
He's always been a sleuth Republican, with all his corporate backers and advisers.
nonst8 3 years ago
well done. your text description says it all:
Obama said he would support the Constitution & oppose FISA Amendment Act & its program of unlimited spying powers for George W. Bush. Now he supports the Bush warrantless wiretapping spy program. Obama even says he will continue this program if elected President... He has betrayed us - & he's proved he's just as rotten as the rest of the candidates.
-- sad thing: Hillary would not've filibustered telco immununity either. that leaves no one.
quicksite 3 years ago 2
Do you even know what the bill said... First Obama said he would vote for the old bill he is voting for the new bill because it limits the president even more than the original law.
now instead of the attorney general having spy power a warrant will always be required
Foto1976 3 years ago
Foto1976:
Yeah, I do. And Russ Feingold warned his colleagues that only 10-15 of the 100 member body had been briefed with the full details of the bill, and the programs it ratified, due to their lack of top secret security clearance. But Russ is on the intelligence committee-- & pleaded with his colleagues to come to a briefing he could conduct which would expose why this bill is so much more harmful than perceived. He knows more than you or I do: watch. v=EdlUgPmgXUs
Then this: v=No-FJNZdUfU
quicksite 3 years ago
now that is some good commentary! write me a check too please?
filimail 3 years ago 2
Looks like one of those dumb Husain Obama spin ads to me. If he gets in, spying will be the very least of your worries!
Iowakc 3 years ago
Give a jillion dollars to Bob Barr! He is the sane argument for president of the United States of America in an election between a war monger who is despised by the base of his party, and an inexperienced promise-breaking orator who just came on the national scene too quickly.
Think beyond him being a Libertarian, having a lame vice-president, and little zest --- Bob Barr is the person that we NEED to win the 2008 election during a troubled time.
kamak894 3 years ago
Very disappointing. I'm not happy about this at all.
kenrg 3 years ago 5
i have the same feelings.
RationalLiberty 3 years ago
People were warning that Obama is just another CFR/Bilderberg goon. Only thing surprising is Obama revealing himself pretty early.
NosePickingSob 3 years ago
Damn right we warned everyone. But noooo Obama's gonna bring CHANGE! Pfff.
TheGrinningManiac 3 years ago
Barack Obama Propaganda.
BrownBee226 3 years ago 2
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HomoGeneyes 3 years ago
I believe it is commonly refered to as Bread and Circuses. Count me out.
dsvet 3 years ago