if u make a rc coaxial helicopter to stabilize it without a tail rotor use a even number of gears and it mechanically stabilizes but if u try that and the rotor spins the wrong way reverse the polarity and it should work
if u make a rc coaxial helicopter to stabilize it without a tail rotor use a even number of gears and it mechanically stabilizes but if u try that and the rotor spins the wrong way reverse the poarity
Piezoelectric "Movement Sensors" are NOT solid state. The proper general engineering term for these devices is the "Vibrating Structure Gyroscope", which uses a A piezoelectric material (such as a quartz crystal) which can be induced to vibrate via an oscillating magnetic field. Now, lateral motion of the enclosed assembly causes the center of oscillation to shift in the opposite direction due to the Coriolis force, which is measured to produce a signal relative to the rate of rotation.
Have you ever heard of MEMs gyroscope chips? Very small digital or analog chips that measure up to 3 axis and are are insanely accurate. Beats about every mechanical gyro ever build. Have fun! :P
I did not know they had these. One of the things on my list of crazy stuff to do is to design and build flying machines. I need to learn about models because it would be a lot cheaper than experimenting with full-size craft!
me and my dad fly helis and if the hobby took his much devotion to mannually adjust the gyro gain and everything we would definaitly just be playing base ball or somthing
I have been drawn to R/C helis, my dad was on the design team for guidance systems installed in the first US manned space capsules, brought home blueprints to show me as a kid in the 60s. Principles were same but a bit more complicated. Each gyro was controlled by a computer and simple programs in basic language and input from the astronauts. These little "toys" represent years of technology, it is easy to take this for granted. Thank you for this tutorial which brought all this back to me.
Thanks for the kind comments. Glad to bring back some nostalgia for you and your dad. I worked on INS systems on Phantom Jets with Big Gyros too and they were very complicated, compared to this, but now, Piezoelectric is the ticket.
Thanks for the kind words. Your so right. I wish others would look back and see where we came from, and not assume the new technology simply "appeared from no where" ..LOL.
Thanks. It HL is hype to me. If it really locked, it would not be controllable. It is however, a stronger forced setup, which finds its center again after a maneuver. Thanks again.
Thanks. I would not put this on any of my present day helis as I use Piezos on all of them now due to power draw and weight of this old dinosaur.. See my blade 400 videos or my Blue Ray, to see them fly with Piezo gyros.
Love all ur heli vids. BTW its not gyroscopic phenomenon, but gyroscopic precession that causes it to move that way. I'm a full scale Flight Instructor. Sorry had to correct. SEMPER FI
My last post meant say WOW now that's just cool as hell.... LOL sorry lost my W key for a min. Awesome video. IF you got any more old electronics vids in mind to make please make them and I will subscribe
hi sir i love all your videos man there good. i think i like to fly too but no cash im in asia philippines hehe but il try be like you hehe (sorry for my english sir)
We used to have a concept 60 light up the engine once never again and sold it (SNIF)we never find who would teach us to fly so we stick with the airplanes, the thing I can remember was the fact that you had to turn on the giro and it started to make a lot of noise this would explain why, oh and a big 6 cell battery like the ones RC electric cars run with. long way we came now as you mention.
Nice video but not correct when talking about modern piezo gyros. Basically a Piezo Gyro is a small piece of piezoelectric material which is mechanically stressed when subjected to a rotational motion which changes the impedance of the sensor, this is then turned into information suitable for controlling a servo. They are angular velocity sensors and have nothing to do with measuring the earths magnetism as you stated in your video. Thought I'd just point this out.
Your right. It was a quick comment I made in only one video take, as it still has to align itself with no movement before it will work. I was more trying to explain the old school way anyway.
very cool vid its amazing how much the hobby has evolved and how so many more people are getting involved, keep them coming again nice job on the vids
Sir yourself and Subzero have some of the best info, I relate to how you present very well, feel like I'm backin Vo-tech class lol been many years! do you have any vids on how the electric motors evolved? and how to go up to brushless I have bought my first Heli, a HBK II but cost keep me from all the fancy stuff! Thank's so much love the History lesson's pls. keep em coming!
Gyros have really nothing to do with preventing pirouetting. They just act as shock absorbers and counter act any jerks, jolts of wind, etc. You still have control with your left stick. It helps with the tail, but you still have to learn how. Kinda like power steering. Still steers, but it is easier.
Yes it does, and it had to be compensated for by using the left stick to override the gyro. The servo only moved about an 8th inch (each way) at max, so it wasn't overwhelming. Todays gyros do the same thing and why they can be swithced on or off from the TX to be able to do maneuvers like piroetts. We could not shut ours off, so just learned to fly that way.
Very cool, NightFlyyer :) When adjusting the gain on the old style gyros, could a rheostat or pot of some sort have been subbed for soldering in and out various resistors? My electronics knowledge is pretty sketchy. Just curious :)
Actually, I removed the variable resister that was on the gyro for this video, and centered the pot on the servo instead. It really was only used to adjust the centering of the servo. Those VR 's weren't too small in those days, but it worked.
hey you look like you know a LOT on rc heli's!!! ok the thing is i have been in rc cars for a long time and now i am looking to get in to heli's what would be a good first heli. and not to big so i can fly indoors and out. thanks
Thanks. Well take a look at my blade cx2 and honeybee heli vids and you can make up your mind by watching them fly, etc.
I am also sending you my 9 helicopter tips, and you may get some insite there too. It also helps to be a bit coordinated, as helis require both sticks moving all the time.
well dave, just shows how much technoligy has grown in the last 50 years!
nowa days , if u think of something that uve wanted, its already been invented by some clever person in japan!, (gotta love the japese and the technoligy)
but im still confused how the new ones work, and i bet those old gyro's were very expensive too!!, thank you for sharing, i enjoyed this video :) 5 stars
Excellent video. I would've given it 5 stars, only alot of times things were out of focus. Great seeing that 'classic' rc equipment. It really gives one appreciation for what we have today. And you were a part of that with your electric motor tail rotor invention years back!
I am very happy to see the vidoe after you give this Piezoelectrics do not use magnetic force to align as I said in the video.
AntoMelta 1 month ago
Steady I Really Like This Video Piezoelectrics do not use magnetic force to align as I said in the video
imegatrone 1 month ago
Good, I like that you share this video Piezoelectrics do not use magnetic force to align as I said in the video., I wish success always
Melehete 1 month ago
Nice Video Piezoelectrics do not use magnetic force to align as I said in the video. That You Share , So Very Nice Thanks You
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Ondelendo 1 month ago
Your Video Is Very Useful Sharing Piezoelectrics do not use magnetic force to align as I said in the vide
bundawartini 1 month ago 2
wow very interesting
TheCheesyProductions 1 month ago
ESTOS SON LOS VIEJOS GIROSCOPOS AHORA SON PIEXOELECTRICOS MUY BUEN VIDEO FELICITACIONES
cibergenio2008 1 month ago
where did u buy that rc heli and how much was it? please answer
DeathOf98 2 months ago
Hi,
How can I buy this Piezoelectric Gyroscope?
Please I need it.
Regards
Max
usd35125 2 months ago
can it handle modern 3d?
nicholas5674 3 months ago
I would actually watch this if it didn't have annoying background music on it.
FesterBable 3 months ago
very interesting thx
shebotnov 5 months ago in playlist RC History From Mr. Herbert's Science Class
thank you for your great video, very informative and entertaining! Thanks for making it straight to the point.
malcolmdwyer 6 months ago
vrey nice
MrIFHI 6 months ago
Do you remember, not saying your old, Tx/Rx that used reeds that would vibrate at afrequency to adust different parts of a 'plane
Films4You 10 months ago
what is the best begginner helicopter
TheKahanex 10 months ago
Please show us a RC hele working please
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if u make a rc coaxial helicopter to stabilize it without a tail rotor use a even number of gears and it mechanically stabilizes but if u try that and the rotor spins the wrong way reverse the polarity and it should work
legoguylolforever 1 year ago
if u make a rc coaxial helicopter to stabilize it without a tail rotor use a even number of gears and it mechanically stabilizes but if u try that and the rotor spins the wrong way reverse the poarity
legoguylolforever 1 year ago
Oscar! They removed my old bionics! I feel naked!!! Rudy! Install the new servo in my legs!
Taimak77 1 year ago
Thanks Dave, this video must have slipped through the net, I've only just found it!
Thumbs up...
locouk 1 year ago
1-800-boring 69
sweetgyy 1 year ago
Piezoelectric "Movement Sensors" are NOT solid state. The proper general engineering term for these devices is the "Vibrating Structure Gyroscope", which uses a A piezoelectric material (such as a quartz crystal) which can be induced to vibrate via an oscillating magnetic field. Now, lateral motion of the enclosed assembly causes the center of oscillation to shift in the opposite direction due to the Coriolis force, which is measured to produce a signal relative to the rate of rotation.
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What do you mean by "feedback principal"?
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zora4r 1 year ago
Have you ever heard of MEMs gyroscope chips? Very small digital or analog chips that measure up to 3 axis and are are insanely accurate. Beats about every mechanical gyro ever build. Have fun! :P
danavyor 1 year ago
I did not know they had these. One of the things on my list of crazy stuff to do is to design and build flying machines. I need to learn about models because it would be a lot cheaper than experimenting with full-size craft!
themanyone 1 year ago
uhhhhhhh, LOSER!!!!!!!!
concordatthefort 1 year ago
1:06 This is the same thing how the hpi Dbox drift assist works. It senses movement of the rc car. Thanks
MegaDisclaimer 1 year ago
Do you remember "reeds" these used to vibrate for each channel in the receiver
... I think?
Films4You 1 year ago
yeah big step up in technology.
wootboy4201 1 year ago
me and my dad fly helis and if the hobby took his much devotion to mannually adjust the gyro gain and everything we would definaitly just be playing base ball or somthing
ramicaza 1 year ago
Man u rock and inspire. Keep it up bro.
Munty102 1 year ago
can me buy the gyro?
robot797 1 year ago
Cool...
frogfrog47 2 years ago
thanks.....you are a very interesting man dave!
roberttreboranita 2 years ago
whats it for
3dmontana 2 years ago
do they have gyro on full size helicopters(if not - why not!!!)
kamalmichael 2 years ago
Very informative and nostalgic video. AAA+++
CSDCHI 2 years ago
In the old days, we had to fly upwind.. both ways!
synaptic76 2 years ago 3
i don't know what that means but it sounds difficult.
rumvodkaf1 2 years ago
thanks for the knowledge sharing!!
siupetpet 2 years ago
superb sfuff especially the tail rotorless
heli in the 26 knot wind
i would buy one if they still made em
keep up the good work and how about a total idiots guide to setting up a helicommand boy is it frustrating !!
All the best from Mat ,Nottingham uk.
matthetriker 2 years ago
what the hell of the gyro function to the helicopter
barlisuam 2 years ago
I like the Gulf 76 ball holding up the tail of the copter... haven't seen one of those since I was a little kid...
Nza420 2 years ago
thanks for sharing knowledge to us... many thanks...
kino261988 2 years ago
kurwa jak ty ciapiesz ciap ...
maciodjkolo 2 years ago
You rock man! thanks
Cokoholicar 2 years ago
are you goin to sell that old gyro
jemmismagic 2 years ago 2
cool[;
ir01191999 2 years ago
cool
TheStarDustGroup 2 years ago
Thanks for solving a more-than 10 years question... How gyro works ??
greetings from a heli beginner Brazil friend
rsaba 2 years ago
Thanks!
thediscoballer 2 years ago
Your welcome. :-)
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
hehe i love you man "today will be one of the good old days" hmm waow!
leviterande 2 years ago
Thank you for your words. :-)
NightFlyyer 2 years ago 3
I have been drawn to R/C helis, my dad was on the design team for guidance systems installed in the first US manned space capsules, brought home blueprints to show me as a kid in the 60s. Principles were same but a bit more complicated. Each gyro was controlled by a computer and simple programs in basic language and input from the astronauts. These little "toys" represent years of technology, it is easy to take this for granted. Thank you for this tutorial which brought all this back to me.
JDBlackhawk 2 years ago
Thanks for the kind comments. Glad to bring back some nostalgia for you and your dad. I worked on INS systems on Phantom Jets with Big Gyros too and they were very complicated, compared to this, but now, Piezoelectric is the ticket.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I got an old mechanical gyro for £5 in hobbystores bargain bin!
vanepico 2 years ago
Cool. Make a video and post it here.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Thank you for the demo,Dave. To know the past is to appreciate the true value of the present.
elministere 2 years ago
Thanks for the kind words. Your so right. I wish others would look back and see where we came from, and not assume the new technology simply "appeared from no where" ..LOL.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
thank god that aint still in the new modles
sir240s 2 years ago
Yep.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Thank you for the science lesson, now I know how they work :).
repcsi 2 years ago
Thanks for the comments and watching.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
great
thanks for showing how this works.
Can you tell us about the heading look funktion.
Have a nice time.
entebach 2 years ago
Thanks. It HL is hype to me. If it really locked, it would not be controllable. It is however, a stronger forced setup, which finds its center again after a maneuver. Thanks again.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Great history lesson!!
Paxmax 2 years ago
Thanks kindly.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
cool i am starting in to planes
ubergnar2808 2 years ago
Great. Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Great Tech! Thank you!
twistedwrench 3 years ago
Thank you too.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
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discoinfern0 3 years ago
LOL.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
that's pretty awesome. perhaps we could see it in action on an actual heli if u don't mind.
RoboTekno 3 years ago
Thanks. I would not put this on any of my present day helis as I use Piezos on all of them now due to power draw and weight of this old dinosaur.. See my blade 400 videos or my Blue Ray, to see them fly with Piezo gyros.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
the old days must of been awsome! XD
speedstakerguy 3 years ago
It was a challenge for rc for sure. Thanks.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
NightFlyyer,
Love all ur heli vids. BTW its not gyroscopic phenomenon, but gyroscopic precession that causes it to move that way. I'm a full scale Flight Instructor. Sorry had to correct. SEMPER FI
Flyinsooner1 3 years ago
Thanks. I think I cleared that up in my description box a while ago. I used the wrong words. Semper Fi back.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
My last post meant say WOW now that's just cool as hell.... LOL sorry lost my W key for a min. Awesome video. IF you got any more old electronics vids in mind to make please make them and I will subscribe
Scorpio9GM 3 years ago
No problem. I understood. Subscribe anyway, as more are to come. Thanks.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
Wow not that is just cool as hell. Wish i knew people like you in my area but I this was a really cool Thanks.
Scorpio9GM 3 years ago
Thanks kindly.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
great vid
ShittyAssNigger 3 years ago
Thanks kindly.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
hi sir i love all your videos man there good. i think i like to fly too but no cash im in asia philippines hehe but il try be like you hehe (sorry for my english sir)
ryemeg900 3 years ago
Thanks. You can be what ever you want, if you set your mind to it and never give up. Your English is good. No need to apologize.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
We used to have a concept 60 light up the engine once never again and sold it (SNIF)we never find who would teach us to fly so we stick with the airplanes, the thing I can remember was the fact that you had to turn on the giro and it started to make a lot of noise this would explain why, oh and a big 6 cell battery like the ones RC electric cars run with. long way we came now as you mention.
rifted 3 years ago
Thanks. Your so right. You have been there, especially when you talk about the gyro sounds.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
Nice video but not correct when talking about modern piezo gyros. Basically a Piezo Gyro is a small piece of piezoelectric material which is mechanically stressed when subjected to a rotational motion which changes the impedance of the sensor, this is then turned into information suitable for controlling a servo. They are angular velocity sensors and have nothing to do with measuring the earths magnetism as you stated in your video. Thought I'd just point this out.
96987052 3 years ago
Your right. It was a quick comment I made in only one video take, as it still has to align itself with no movement before it will work. I was more trying to explain the old school way anyway.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
thank-u
wa6njj 3 years ago
Your welcome.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
Great video man. I always wondered how and why a heading lock gyro works so well. Now I know. Thanks a lot for the info.
GeniusRubik2 3 years ago
Thanks very much.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
nice vid thanks! informative
FutureMachineLifeBot 3 years ago
Thanks very kindly. I appreciate that.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
thank you for that detailed demo -I now know what a gyro is and how they work -old and new!
quietfamily 3 years ago
Your very welcome. Stay tuned.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
Interesting and educational mechanical lesson!
masterpaperaircrafts 3 years ago
Thanks very much.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
very cool vid its amazing how much the hobby has evolved and how so many more people are getting involved, keep them coming again nice job on the vids
paddlefoot07 3 years ago
Thanks very kindly. I appreciate it.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
Sir yourself and Subzero have some of the best info, I relate to how you present very well, feel like I'm backin Vo-tech class lol been many years! do you have any vids on how the electric motors evolved? and how to go up to brushless I have bought my first Heli, a HBK II but cost keep me from all the fancy stuff! Thank's so much love the History lesson's pls. keep em coming!
BigRickSharpe 3 years ago
Thanks very kindly. See my video on "Cork Motor runs on Lithium power", but I don't have any others...so far...
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
great video! 5 stars.
so if the heli would piro in one direction constantly, the old-school gyro will tilt one way constantly right?
it's actually a motor with two fly wheel attaching it to the shaft?
lyclycsms 3 years ago
Gyros have really nothing to do with preventing pirouetting. They just act as shock absorbers and counter act any jerks, jolts of wind, etc. You still have control with your left stick. It helps with the tail, but you still have to learn how. Kinda like power steering. Still steers, but it is easier.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
what i was asking is, if the heli is piro at a constant rate, the mechanical gyro will tilt one sided?
lyclycsms 3 years ago
Yes it does, and it had to be compensated for by using the left stick to override the gyro. The servo only moved about an 8th inch (each way) at max, so it wasn't overwhelming. Todays gyros do the same thing and why they can be swithced on or off from the TX to be able to do maneuvers like piroetts. We could not shut ours off, so just learned to fly that way.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
Thanks. We sure have. Cant wait to see what is next.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
Very cool, NightFlyyer :) When adjusting the gain on the old style gyros, could a rheostat or pot of some sort have been subbed for soldering in and out various resistors? My electronics knowledge is pretty sketchy. Just curious :)
gnorville 3 years ago
Actually, I removed the variable resister that was on the gyro for this video, and centered the pot on the servo instead. It really was only used to adjust the centering of the servo. Those VR 's weren't too small in those days, but it worked.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
hey you look like you know a LOT on rc heli's!!! ok the thing is i have been in rc cars for a long time and now i am looking to get in to heli's what would be a good first heli. and not to big so i can fly indoors and out. thanks
bodybag101 3 years ago
Thanks. Well take a look at my blade cx2 and honeybee heli vids and you can make up your mind by watching them fly, etc.
I am also sending you my 9 helicopter tips, and you may get some insite there too. It also helps to be a bit coordinated, as helis require both sticks moving all the time.
Keep me posted.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
Awesome video, thanx, I LOVE MY BLADE 400, and you can get a set of blinking led's on ebay for 10 bucks, night flying is a blast!!!
I did not know gyro's work with magnetism, how cool is that!
longerino 3 years ago
Thanks very much. I love night flying for sure too, as you know from my other vids.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
wow i always love your informational videos. the Christmas night fling helicopter was hilarious
helipilot94 3 years ago
Thanks very kindly. Glad you got a chuckle!
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
well dave, just shows how much technoligy has grown in the last 50 years!
nowa days , if u think of something that uve wanted, its already been invented by some clever person in japan!, (gotta love the japese and the technoligy)
but im still confused how the new ones work, and i bet those old gyro's were very expensive too!!, thank you for sharing, i enjoyed this video :) 5 stars
14cyproit14 3 years ago
Thanks very kindly. The new ones work by "Magic"! LOL.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
your video makes me happy
joeycool12 3 years ago
And your comments make me happy! :-)
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
Good bit of history there dave,we have come a long way in r/c,5 stars mate,nice one.
startazz 3 years ago
Thanks, I cant wait to see what is next.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
Excellent video. I would've given it 5 stars, only alot of times things were out of focus. Great seeing that 'classic' rc equipment. It really gives one appreciation for what we have today. And you were a part of that with your electric motor tail rotor invention years back!
Partok81 3 years ago
Thanks kindly. Sorry about the focus, but it sure gets degraded when it goes to Youtube. It is always clear before I send them.
Well, the point is clear, though.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
then i post again:P...nice vid, learned some things there;)
XDamirX 3 years ago
Thanks very kindly for your comments.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago
awsome :P
apeeas 3 years ago
Thanks much.
NightFlyyer 3 years ago