In the begining ,they said that Joy division had a drummer that couldn't keep a beat.A singer that couldn't sing (Ian Curtis),and a bass player that thought he was a lead guitarist. Boy were they wrong...
@PAMAROSHOUSE Many people feel that this tune should have been left untouched, the original had poor sound quality unfortunately. Listening to this version, I think New Order did a wonderful job. I have really grown to like this rendition. Sure, it isn't Ian, but it seems to me that it was sung and played with passion, not like "Blah, here we go again".
@Elemental924 here here, i have both, one has an extra verse..but is completely indiscipherable almost..and the other is a timeless classic! the galaxie 500 version is worth a look for something diff.
they are so influential, Hooky using the bass as rhythm which Nirvana picked up on, and the marked tempo changes loved by The Pixies are evident in this song
"This one's for Dee Dee Ramone - God rest his soul. You could keep Ian company 'til I get there..." Hooks one of the coolest bass players of all time. I miss Dee Dee too.
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Heres the deal, if you dont agree please tell me why, and plz voice your opinion.
Ian Curtis was a very dark singer , i dont consider ian a song writer, i consider him a poet. If he was in new order i dont think they would of been as famous. But i believe that both bands are appreciated by two diffrent groups of people. Both GREAT and influential bands non the less.
@benciano Good point. It's nigh impossible to deal with suppositions, anyone can say what they think might have happened because it never did. New Order wrote some incredible songs on their own but how much of that was influenced by Ian? you can't measure it with certainty. I will say I was privileged beyond words to get to go to their last ever concert in Buenos Aires in 2006 and the power and the passion they displayed when playing Joy Division was out of this world, they seemed to come alive
SUCH A MUSIC !!!!!!! Ian was there, still young, dancing, around them, and smilling to them, "ok guys, i'm not here anymore but yes the music is still here", i'm pleased to see all these "old mans" coming back we were young too, they are really great, morrissey; the cure, all are still there, and it's really good, the 80's have never egalised, by any other period, a start for all theses unforgottable musics, maybe it's because I was young too..........
I still rate this in my top 5 singles of all time - awesomely powerful -this live performance pisses all over the studio versions.And I'm going to see Hooky perform live on Thurs 30/09/10. Can't friggin wait!
"the next one is for dee dee ramone, god bless his soul. and to keep ian company until i get there." thanks, hooky. now i'm in tears. fuck. fuck. fuck.
I think the brilliance of this song is keeping the lyrics really subtle and the guitars massive. trying not to lose it live and go crazy on the vox. they've got a lot tighter though.
WOW... this song is playing since 1980, and is still actual, and perfect... the perfect balance between rithm and rock, guitar, bass, etc... They didn't forgot the music basis... they are definitely the best
I was there! Had no idea they were going to film it. The sound was great, drums sounded so punchy with great low end. I was on the Hooky side! His bass sounds huge live in a way that can't really be captured on a recording. It was ridiculously muddy that day, though.
We will never see J.D play this live again and it will never be performed live again by New Order.... This is from Hooky's mouth last night "May 2010" When he was asked, he just said NO !
There is something quite unique and dynamic about this song.Great to see the guys still cranking it out live in the new millennium.Just look at the crowd going off...
Except that an irreplaceable unnameable quality is gone.
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As Peter has said, he never played so well, with such ease and he thought it was normal. Look at the Something Else shows to see how well be played and with such ease when Ian was there.
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Ian's death robbed us of a great rock band, maybe the best. Timeless songs, incredible live shows -- all gone, cut down in their prime.
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The more I listen to JD the more I am convinced they would have bettered the Greats...
IT SBIGBOY.... " IT IS THE BEST BAND OF IT'S TIME GENRE WISE "...without comment... NEW ORDER WILL LIVE FOREVER....just think about, whatever the f... k it's cool now a days... nothing's nearly like in my book,.. ohhh... The Killers ? or who else ? I love new order, the best vibe ever...and innovation
there is a lot of comment regarding ian curtis being any good or not - name another singer whose voice would fit joy division ? - NONE God bless you ian RIP
ian was good ,,but nobody can sing like bernie .they never would have been famous without him,,,bizare love triangle ,,the best vocal performance ive ever heard
my opinion is that they would be the best band in the world if they still had ian on vocals with modern technology which has played a part in making old joy division songs sound so good at finsbury park so if ian was singin there it would have been one of the greatest performances in history thats my opinion.
@Baddie922 To be brutally honest and as much as I love and admire Ian's work, I think Ian was to dark for the mainstream and Bernard has always done a great job if you ask me, I don't think New Order would have been as big as they are if Ian was the lead singer, New Order was New Order, Joy Division was Joy Division, different eras and times man.
@stevieontour I just read Wiki's entry for New Order. It appears that lots of people disagree about your statement about New Order not being relevant. Seems they have been very influential to a lot of artists and bands.
fucking legends and legendary song
97pook 2 weeks ago
ma in jio!
lorenzero 2 weeks ago
英九: 這是政治炒做
final499420021 2 weeks ago
太像了!!!!!!!!!!!!
vvjmjack 2 weeks ago
幹馬英九欸!
chenamber0722 2 weeks ago
WT....the drummer just like our(taiwan) president!!
lazyboy740125 2 weeks ago 4
@lazyboy740125
太神啦!!英九!! @@b
katpacz 2 weeks ago 4
馬英九身兼鼓手耶!!
bobsonchen1006 2 weeks ago 74
AMEN to the description
sebadrum16 1 month ago
In the begining ,they said that Joy division had a drummer that couldn't keep a beat.A singer that couldn't sing (Ian Curtis),and a bass player that thought he was a lead guitarist. Boy were they wrong...
raysaudia 1 month ago 3
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BobbyeHorner03 5 months ago
wow i would love to see this band live joy division are king
festeringfigment 5 months ago
@festeringfigment Go to hooky's club round the corner from me in Manc and you can hear him play JD albums in their entirity.
iio58 4 months ago
great new touch to this by new order
PAMAROSHOUSE 8 months ago
@PAMAROSHOUSE Many people feel that this tune should have been left untouched, the original had poor sound quality unfortunately. Listening to this version, I think New Order did a wonderful job. I have really grown to like this rendition. Sure, it isn't Ian, but it seems to me that it was sung and played with passion, not like "Blah, here we go again".
Elemental924 8 months ago
@Elemental924 here here, i have both, one has an extra verse..but is completely indiscipherable almost..and the other is a timeless classic! the galaxie 500 version is worth a look for something diff.
z1rakz1gal 1 month ago
Hooky is a serious inspiration, they all are really. Beautiful, uplifting yet melancholy. I despair at the sight of 13 dislikes >_> . . .
charlie123abc360 8 months ago
one of the best songs ever written. period.
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reshapingwork 9 months ago
how can anyone dislike this? cunts.
cribsstewart 9 months ago 4
@cribsstewart Too right my friend.
stellablade 9 months ago
Watch the drummer....wow!
flatsfishingonline 10 months ago
absolutely awesome! love the morris..love the bernard.....massive fan from so cal!
jacktala1 10 months ago
All true - New Order are New Order because Joy Division were Joy Division until Ian died, then Joy Division were no more...
brookin 10 months ago
they are so influential, Hooky using the bass as rhythm which Nirvana picked up on, and the marked tempo changes loved by The Pixies are evident in this song
Iberotimuka 11 months ago
I hate to say it, but compared to other versions, this they sound a little shit on this one. Bernard's totally off.
Morgodth 11 months ago
"This one's for Dee Dee Ramone - God rest his soul. You could keep Ian company 'til I get there..." Hooks one of the coolest bass players of all time. I miss Dee Dee too.
whitecloud1980 11 months ago 10
wait why is there a confederate flag on sumner's guitar? I'm not accusing him of anything I'm sure theres a reason I just wanna know
theylllosecontrol 11 months ago
makes an american wish he was an englishmen!
jacktala1 1 year ago
great video!
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@exiledlarky He is a great drummer, you're right.
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This song is so...epic!
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My brother got me into this music in the late seventies brilliant
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very nice post 8 ) watching love grow
sixgun4me 1 year ago
Heres the deal, if you dont agree please tell me why, and plz voice your opinion.
Ian Curtis was a very dark singer , i dont consider ian a song writer, i consider him a poet. If he was in new order i dont think they would of been as famous. But i believe that both bands are appreciated by two diffrent groups of people. Both GREAT and influential bands non the less.
benciano 1 year ago
@benciano Good point. It's nigh impossible to deal with suppositions, anyone can say what they think might have happened because it never did. New Order wrote some incredible songs on their own but how much of that was influenced by Ian? you can't measure it with certainty. I will say I was privileged beyond words to get to go to their last ever concert in Buenos Aires in 2006 and the power and the passion they displayed when playing Joy Division was out of this world, they seemed to come alive
Iberotimuka 11 months ago
@Iberotimuka you don't say?! I would of killed to be at that concert (=
And obviously both are beyond great bands, i just don't see the point in arguing who is better.
benciano 11 months ago
It's impossible to watch this video without getting goosebumps. Awsome preformace by an awsome band!
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i feel the love in this song who ever plays it!
thecliffes78 1 year ago
Nice one Hooky
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AJT041979 1 year ago
stephen morris is a fucking drum machine
exiledlarky 1 year ago 58
@exiledlarky by all means, a machine
flatsfishingonline 9 months ago
@exiledlarky fucking drum machine is right
flatsfishingonline 8 months ago
SUCH A MUSIC !!!!!!! Ian was there, still young, dancing, around them, and smilling to them, "ok guys, i'm not here anymore but yes the music is still here", i'm pleased to see all these "old mans" coming back we were young too, they are really great, morrissey; the cure, all are still there, and it's really good, the 80's have never egalised, by any other period, a start for all theses unforgottable musics, maybe it's because I was young too..........
farine5 1 year ago 2
I still rate this in my top 5 singles of all time - awesomely powerful -this live performance pisses all over the studio versions.And I'm going to see Hooky perform live on Thurs 30/09/10. Can't friggin wait!
abagail4me 1 year ago
is everybody having a nice time?
this guy gay or what?
whersWaldo 1 year ago
No he's just talented unlike you big boy
dmcd808 1 year ago
yeahh!!!!!! NEW ORDER !!!!!
wHITeOUtBF 1 year ago
a really poignant tune as it was ians last gift to us and still my fave joy division tune
great version - god rest your soul ian
cedar30 1 year ago
great job of JD tune. Nice job Peter to recognize DD
stugats1 1 year ago
I love this song one of my favorite NO songs
rodog123 1 year ago
"the next one is for dee dee ramone, god bless his soul. and to keep ian company until i get there." thanks, hooky. now i'm in tears. fuck. fuck. fuck.
MrBlairblack 1 year ago 2
new order wouldnt have existed if ian hadnt of died they would have stayed joy division!!! bernards voice is not a patch on ians!!!
phillspoon 1 year ago
"Keep Ian company until i get there"
(':
MIKEDURSTEWITZ 1 year ago 6
I think the brilliance of this song is keeping the lyrics really subtle and the guitars massive. trying not to lose it live and go crazy on the vox. they've got a lot tighter though.
Manakanapa 1 year ago
happy birthday to me!
feyenordina 1 year ago
this song is like the transformation from joy division too new order
LoganBridges 1 year ago
le pied !!!
78morrissey 1 year ago
bernard is the best
ITSBIGBOY 1 year ago
Stephen Morris has outlived all the top drum machines of his day.
ftwelve12 1 year ago
Whats with the Confederate flag on his guitar?
cbrandom 1 year ago
Takes me back to 8th grade 1986-87 Fresno California Computech Junior High school.
ganesha4444 1 year ago
is it just me or does Bernard always seem young?
milkiorange 1 year ago
@milkiorange music truly has a way of keeping us young
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AtlanticStereo 1 year ago
Check out Atlantic Stereo (this profile) for a cover of Joy Division's Ceremony.
AtlanticStereo 1 year ago
amazing. Sorry that they won't be doing this live again. :(
RAF71chingachgook 1 year ago
those fucking faggots are moshing to this. inbreds.
Yadoso 1 year ago
@Yadoso If they were I'd agree with you but I didn't see any moshing, just jumping mainly
Zachism 1 year ago
WOW... this song is playing since 1980, and is still actual, and perfect... the perfect balance between rithm and rock, guitar, bass, etc... They didn't forgot the music basis... they are definitely the best
gcortinas 1 year ago
Such good dynamics in a song, building and backing off beautifully.
Basic cords for a brilliant result... punk ethos with Curtis' lyrics, what a combo...
If havent yet, check out Radioheads worthy cover.
I.C.R.I.P.
bimzelle 1 year ago
yes intro is awesome but sumner's voice isnt good as ian's
this is the most emotional song of joy division, with a hope,
"never stop watchin...watchin forever..."
S4M3L 1 year ago
馬英九的才藝又多一項了
足球 游泳 棒球 抽菸 繡花針 武俠小說 慢跑
蓋纜車 宣戰 觀落陰 買車票 喝生水 減肥 看報紙
打鼓!
taiwanxw 1 year ago
i love love love this version. amazing intro.
insaniaa 1 year ago
I was there! Had no idea they were going to film it. The sound was great, drums sounded so punchy with great low end. I was on the Hooky side! His bass sounds huge live in a way that can't really be captured on a recording. It was ridiculously muddy that day, though.
AndPlus 1 year ago
clasic band no rose tinted glasses tho
ylt123 1 year ago
Probably it is the best live performance of Ceremony.
The one with Ian (1980) was badly recorded, his voice was fantastic but a bad microphone truncated his only live performance of this song.
Too bad there isn't Ian, but New Order did a great job anyway. This song is eternal.
The tribute to Dee Dee Ramone is great too.
cuoccimix 1 year ago
I miss the shirts tucked in to the trousers :( Hehehe.
HumanJarv 1 year ago
This song makes me want to cry, its so beautiful.
tellytubies123 1 year ago 2
總統好................
akdaus2000 1 year ago
Hooky says something about Dee Dee Ramone? It was at the time that Dee Dee died, june 2002. But I can´t catch what he´s saying...
vitoczek 1 year ago
@vitoczek "this one is for dee dee ramone--god rest his soul. he can keep ian company 'til i get there."
eraz0rxx 1 year ago
@eraz0rxx thanx!
vitoczek 1 year ago
I agree, I am huge fan and this is a keep sake for sure.
TheCdski 1 year ago
WoW talk about memories im in the 80s again.
canabeans08 1 year ago
stephen morris is the best drummer on the planet
geoffcos 1 year ago
Great version, but seriously the bass player looks retarded.
Wzwain 1 year ago
@Wzwain peter hook is the greatest bass player on the planet ...fact
ITSBIGBOY 1 year ago
@Wzwain Seems to me he's having a blast playing a stunning song for other people, and if I could play like that, so would I.
Gavran831 1 year ago
if you dont love this song YOU HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS hahahahhahahahahahahah
knownpleasures 1 year ago
Forever...watching love grow.....forever
riverplate0101 1 year ago
R.I.P IAN CURTIS.......30 Years ago Today.
u414336 1 year ago 2
shut up barney and play the next track
britdude1961 1 year ago
ian must be proud of his song .... it will last forever !
ledeoli 1 year ago
is anyone having a great time ? Hell yeaaaaaaaaaaa
zarnero 1 year ago
"Keep Ian company 'till I get there." I love Hooky.
evanraufbold 1 year ago 3
so beautiful, lyrics are so deep
mcronnymc 1 year ago
Great song , Great tribute.
Mickel28 1 year ago
讓阿六丫知道我們家總統是多麼多才多藝丫.
你們家總理會打鼓嗎?
哈哈....
adsl0311 1 year ago
查了一下
這樂團中文叫做「新秩序」
長的像馬總統的鼓手
名字叫Stephen Morris
pklin76777 1 year ago
其實是總統留美時期組的團 現在只是復出 (大誤)
shyngjong 1 year ago
總統好~~~
elle3q 1 year ago
總統好XD
megaboost 1 year ago 2
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andyyu01 1 year ago
@andyyu01
不是打簡體就是大陸來的朋友, 一看就是那些綠蠅的敗纇來亂的. 別那麼單純, 對於這些輸到脫褲天天幻想從新執政貪污的卡肖, 概嘛跟牠計較.
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世界上的许多外国人都长得象马九,看马的那一副长脸吧,跟大多数台湾人是不一样的。马狗本来就是杂种嘛,台巴子现在才知道啊?
mhqddz 1 year ago
@mhqddz 你是被共產黨洗腦洗到腦殘了嗎??
ozzybcc6 1 year ago
@ozzybcc6 一看也知它是假阿六啦
比雜種還不如
可悲~~~~
wangcc9292 1 year ago
@mhqddz
馬英九斯文又有風度,是有文化的文明人,
不是口出惡言的野蠻人可以望其項背的,土匪知道了嗎?
hanaru4111 1 year ago
We will never see J.D play this live again and it will never be performed live again by New Order.... This is from Hooky's mouth last night "May 2010" When he was asked, he just said NO !
whenitwaz 1 year ago
鼓手好似馬英九...
hamnuptra 1 year ago 33
@hamnuptra Stephen Morris rocks, 馬英九? not so much
milkiorange 1 year ago
The president of Taiwan can play the drum so damn good
rainbowwu4457 1 year ago 3
總統好!!
bizkitboyy 1 year ago
my favourite song.. and i'm not a big fan of JD or NO.. but this is perfection!
MendrisioHardcore 1 year ago
FUCK YES
august360 1 year ago
top das lied
MrLako1994 1 year ago
I swear the guys look close to tears, God Bless Ian and thanks for posting asdras1
teamleader1234 1 year ago
ian come back juste pour cette chansos
valiowx 1 year ago
the song we will always sing when we get back from work...amazing rythm
feyenordina 1 year ago
There is something quite unique and dynamic about this song.Great to see the guys still cranking it out live in the new millennium.Just look at the crowd going off...
abagail4me 1 year ago
@abagail4me I agree, though I have never been able to determine why exactly. It's always been one my favorite Joy Division tunes.
alaric49 1 year ago
Ian is dead, a long time ago... new order was still there not so long ago...
Cheers New Order for being what yo are.
ftp2leta 1 year ago
What kind of bass is that?
Heliosophist 1 year ago
wish our kid could be here. RIP Ian
franco216 1 year ago
hey ian say hello to those guys
valiowx 1 year ago
Bernard Sumner is a hero!
Sampsoem 1 year ago
wow; 28 years listening to these guys and they can still nail it. But then, it is their song.
Webconomist 1 year ago 2
Brilliant version of my favorite JD & NO track......love crystal too.
This finsbury park gig was awesome.
u414336 1 year ago 2
if ian curtis stills alive joy division would be greatest band ever
pink floyd, depeche mode, the cure, rem, the smiths, u2, radiohead, nine inch nails, would not be compare to them
elBOBAnme 1 year ago 3
I disagree, Radiohead and NIN are fucking music titans.
YoungBass182 1 year ago
@elBOBAnme U2 do claim that Joy Division was an influence so either U2's ideas might have been better or their sound would sound less original
paolorossifan2006 1 year ago
i wish Ian could be singing this on stage now... RIP.(
Cu1t06 1 year ago
i wish ian could sing this live now... RIP
Cu1t06 1 year ago
maximum repect
reshaping 1 year ago
Peter Hook is GOD!
patmancilha 1 year ago
peter hook greatest bass player on the planet
ITSBIGBOY 1 year ago
@ITSBIGBOY - he plays it like a guitar - his playing takes the lead in so many NO songs which is F***ing awesome.
tlinscott1 1 year ago
he is the master ,there is no doubt
ITSBIGBOY 1 year ago
STEVIE MORRIS = OUT THERE
BogIslandCasual 1 year ago
why do I find myself wandering back to this song on youtube? Because it's so damn amazing!!! Dee Dee would have been rockin' up stairs!!
tunsatube 1 year ago
nice touch hooky,keep ian company till i get there !!!nice one son !!!!
boardy777777 1 year ago
greatest performance of all time
ITSBIGBOY 1 year ago
Peter Hook is a legend.
bushuaaaa 1 year ago 2
wow they havent changed a thing..
they way they play the way they move
they're exactly the same as with ian curtis
its marvelous
simionTheOne 1 year ago 4
@simionTheOne
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Except that an irreplaceable unnameable quality is gone.
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As Peter has said, he never played so well, with such ease and he thought it was normal. Look at the Something Else shows to see how well be played and with such ease when Ian was there.
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Ian's death robbed us of a great rock band, maybe the best. Timeless songs, incredible live shows -- all gone, cut down in their prime.
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The more I listen to JD the more I am convinced they would have bettered the Greats...
Knepperify1 1 year ago
@Knepperify1
nono ur absolutely right
but i ment the way they've got a spark left of energy
they didnt go out , if u know what i mean
simionTheOne 1 year ago
Hooky's chilling shout-out for Dee Dee Ramone..who died 4 days earlier and to keep Ian company until he gets there was just great to hear.
This was a brilliant gig at Finsbury Park and this is the greatest song that New Order have ever played IMO....love it.
u414336 2 years ago 4
This is one of the saddest songs I've ever heard...
thelonepiper555 2 years ago 3
what a tune
gmtx12 2 years ago
miss new order, come back hooky pleeasse
ErniePi 2 years ago
find myself shutting my eyes and remembering my youth, what a tune.
Manchester what a place to grow up.......
caclr73 2 years ago 2
IT SBIGBOY.... " IT IS THE BEST BAND OF IT'S TIME GENRE WISE "...without comment... NEW ORDER WILL LIVE FOREVER....just think about, whatever the f... k it's cool now a days... nothing's nearly like in my book,.. ohhh... The Killers ? or who else ? I love new order, the best vibe ever...and innovation
faarloop 2 years ago
there is a lot of comment regarding ian curtis being any good or not - name another singer whose voice would fit joy division ? - NONE God bless you ian RIP
cedar30 2 years ago
stil puts a chill down your spine
Guevaristas 2 years ago
ian was good ,,but nobody can sing like bernie .they never would have been famous without him,,,bizare love triangle ,,the best vocal performance ive ever heard
termvegas 2 years ago
Hooky!
joydivisionfanboy 2 years ago
What it would have been like to be there...
barrasse 2 years ago
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AndrewCproductions 2 years ago
the greatest band in the world is new order playing joy division songs. discuss.
knownpleasures 2 years ago 2
my opinion is that they would be the best band in the world if they still had ian on vocals with modern technology which has played a part in making old joy division songs sound so good at finsbury park so if ian was singin there it would have been one of the greatest performances in history thats my opinion.
Baddie922 2 years ago 15
completely agree with you man
BeauSylvester47 2 years ago
i think that is a fair comment to make. However Ian IS dead so are New Order carrying the torch well for Ian??? that is the question
knownpleasures 2 years ago
@Baddie922 docile comment
makesenseofthis 1 year ago
@Baddie922 To be brutally honest and as much as I love and admire Ian's work, I think Ian was to dark for the mainstream and Bernard has always done a great job if you ask me, I don't think New Order would have been as big as they are if Ian was the lead singer, New Order was New Order, Joy Division was Joy Division, different eras and times man.
coldrockdaspot 1 year ago 54
@coldrockdaspot
New Order are a pop bad ... a good one yes .. but not hugely relevant in music history.
Every band currently the world over draws influence directly or indirectly from Joy division.
stevieontour 1 year ago
@stevieontour I just read Wiki's entry for New Order. It appears that lots of people disagree about your statement about New Order not being relevant. Seems they have been very influential to a lot of artists and bands.
akula971 1 year ago
@akula971
The fact that you look up wiki for that information highlights my point.
Ceremony was New orders best track, however that was actually a Joy Division song.
Other than Blue Monday, please tell me other New Order tracks that were "great"??
stevieontour 1 year ago
@stevieontour bizarre love triangle and true faith, and i prefer joy division but new order are still amazing
LoganBridges 1 year ago