How exactly is it possible that this girl is related to Marilyn Monroe on her father side as a great aunt?????????????? LOST since Monroe had one sister and she does not have the same name.
Can anyone just make some crap up and get it in the news? On top of that Baker was not Monroe's fathers real name. No reporter bothers to question I guess pretty sad if you ask me that the mother
@24Monira go to cbs 48 hours on the Texas Killing Fields at 9:35 is where her mother says she looks like Monroe who was her great aunt and kin to her. Well how can she resemble Monroe when Baker was not the father of Monroe? .
@24Monira It is on this video and maybe you can just listen again, the reporter says lots of people say she resembles monroe, the mother says that is because she was kin to monroe who was her great aunt on her dads side. The girls name Crystal Jean Baker and it is not possible that Monroe was her great aunt at least not in a way that she would be biologically related.
@DotiBump ah...i dont know what you were listening to but they said ``she resembled a great, Norma Jean Baker, who became known as Marilyn Monroe``. google norma jean baker and you`ll see that is indeed MM`s name. her mothers name was Gladys Baker and her father Mortensen but her mother changed the name to Baker after her birth bc the dad was MIA. Marylin chos monroe later, as it was her mother`s maiden name and changed to ``Marylin`` at suggestion of a FOX executive.
@melikab I watched the 48 hours and her mother said she was kin to Marilyn Monroe that on her dads side of the family by way of her aunt or great aunt, but I read that the name on her birth cert was not monroe so how could she be related to her on her fathers side. I mean I would think they would check that out before they put it on 48 hours so if you know how they are related let me know because I read she had one sister and her mom did not have one either.
@DotiBump Marilyn had a half-sister, Berniece Baker Miracle. The girls did not learn of each other until Berniece was 19 and Norma Jeane 12. But once each did discover the existence of the other, they stayed in close contact--both before and after Norma Jeane became Marilyn. Bernice wrote a biography called "My Sister Marilyn" which was published in 1994 to critical acclaim. Marilyn left $10,000 to Bernice in her will.
@melikab arilyn was born Norma Jeane Mortenson in the charity ward of the Los Angeles County Hospital on 1 June 1926. Her grandmother, Della Monroe Grainger, had her baptized Norma Jeane Baker. Her mother was Gladys Pearl Monroe. For many years it was believed that Gladys's second husband Martin Edward Mortenson was Marilyn's father and name is even listed on her birth certificate. However Marilyn herself believed a salesman named Charles Stanley Gifford was her father.
@melikab entire family seems to be in California. I am just curious is all. If you watch the entire episode her mother clearly says she was kin to Monroe on her fathers side that would be Baker but Baker was not her father. At least according to her.Grace sent Monroe to live with her great-aunt, Olive Brunings in Compton, California; , Grace sent her to live with yet another one of her aunts, Ana Lower, who lived in Van Nuys, another city in Los Angeles County.
@melikab This is what I mean, her mother had three children, the boy is dead, Marilyn is one and we know dead and the third had one child who had no children. So how can this be that this girl is kin to her by a great aunt on her fathers side? If it is a claim via the father of Monroe, she has said that Baker was not her father and he is not who was on the birth cert which her grandmother had changed. I believe the father is thought to be named Miller.
@melikab Again, the union proved to be short lived and by 1926, when Gladys gave birth to Norma Jeane, her second husband Edward Mortenson was long gone as well. Mortenson was believed to be one of two men who possibly fathered Norma Jeane. The second being a C. Stanley Gifford, a
@melikab Baker was a married name of her grandmother. Or a name used by her and I looked up even siblings of Glady's Baker and find she had only one brother who died young with no kids.
@melikab Norma Jeane Mortenson (raised as Norma Jeane Baker),1. Marilyn’s mother was
Gladys Pearl Monroe,1917 John Newton “Jack” Baker, b. Kentucky ca. 1891, son of S.W. and Lucy (Epperson) Baker (div. 1921); (2) Hollywood, Calif. 11 Oct. 1924 Martin Edward Mortenson, b. Haugesund, Rogaland Co., Norway ca. 1897, d. Milton, Mahoning Co., Ohio 18 June 1929 (he apparently deserted his wife a few months after the marriage); (3) prob. California before 1960, a Mr. Eley.
@melikab Again they said she was KIN to Norma Jean Baker and that she resembled her because she was kin. To my knowledge Baker was a name used by Monroe's grandmother because she was married to a man named baker. The name on the birth cert was Mortensen and I am pretty sure that Gladys monroes mother either that was her dad and she was molested by her stepfather or it was just the family name that her mom and stepdad used so she used it and could be she used it also some people do that
@melikab like the mom gets married and the kid uses that name even if not official. Then the grandmother divorced mortonsen 4 month prior to Gladys giving birth to Marylin (Norma or after the birth.Baker is another man the grandmother of Gladys had been married to and she is the one that had the birth cert changed again it could be in keeping with them just wanting to have the same last names-most experts believe that Gladys could have been molested by mortenson but that the father of
@melikab Norma Jean Baker is either her stepdad mortenson or another man named Gifford. It is not Baker. Nor is Baker related to her mother. Yet here we have this woman on 48 hours saying her daughter Crystal Jean Baker looked like Monroe because she was Kin to her. Of course I feel sorry for the dead girls mom. And she was a beautiful girl but I do not think she looks like Monroe and I am stumped as to how they could be related.
Clearly she is saying that they are. By way of her father Baker.
Danny Boyle was going to be the director of the movie the Texas Killing Fields, but he left the movie because he thought it was to dark and would never get made. Really? Has he ever watched Seven (w/Brad Pitt) it is way darker and it got made, and it did not lose any money...
Stupid director, but I am glad M. Mann's daughter got the job, the movie is good, and I am a fan of her work, Friday Night Lights season 5.
I think it probably started out as one killer, but now that the Killing Fields is so well-known, and known to be a good place to dump a body, I'm sure that more killers over the years have heard about it and used it.
I would turn my attention to a hunter , this is obvious . this guy could be in the woods and police would walk rite by him.. cause he,s a hunter. to catch a killer like this you would have to hunt him , set out bait , sooner or later he,ll come back . they allways do. in the end these children will haunt him any way forever.if i can ever help these families i will . johnnied1701@gmail.com
then you have the copy cat. these poor kids(and it makes me weep) in my opinion where put in a pattern, thats the key. this original killer in my opinion is a hunter i mean a real hunter like ,deer , fox ,etc a trapper to be sure . to conclude . its my hunch that the 1st original killer is a skilled hunter, and probably sports trophy kills on his walls at home , or runs a hunting shop and is a very savy hunter.has a vast knowledge of that area .
be cause he is in his element. he so blends that he,s like a chamelion, like the Ripper.... lets say the Ripper knew that the type of shoes he wore would make noise on the cobblestone st rite , so he wore rubber souls and was dead silent , he couldnt be heard and shadows was his refuge..but what makes this case difficult is copy cat killings..like in the Ripper case . same here, his intent is to cause fear that feeds his twisted appetite. then other insane people follow his lead.
If i can, any one who has studied true crime like i have (and novice P.I ) knows that these atrocities / crimes are two fold , they have all the elements of a sexual preditor / occult ritualistic symbolisms, / sacrifices etc. ....... if i think about it it reminds me of other killers who,s shadows still lingers to this day , hence Jack The Ripper..... Zodiac and so forth....this type of killer marks his territory.....and leaves a trail to taunt police and detectives....
I feel so sorry for all the families of the murdered women, but especially for Laura's father - his pain is palpable even through the video. I hope the murderer(s) are found and put away forever.
Not certain all cases are linked, no M.O. confirmation across all cases & we need to know how they were abducted, killed,disposed of - are the killing fields where they were killed or are they merely a secondary crime scene? It should also be known that young, brunette, petite women are statistically more likely to become the victims of serial killers in terms of body type (according to 'Sexual Homicide') so saying 33 young women is a justification for case linkage is jumping the gun somewhat.
@ilovebubu28 the one bad thing about that is that a lot of people who claim to see spirets spend a lot of time out there, and if the police put cameras out there you do realize that they will have to do follow-ups on every body they see out there so while the police are tracking down a ghostbuster the real killer could be making his move.
@ilovebubu28, they would have to be deer cameras, and they can be stolen, I know the area a little bit, I drove by several times on early 09, it to far to run wired cameras. What they could do and maybe should do is raise money for a memorial for all the women have been tied to this crime. They could scrap out the metal, lease one a dozer and flatten it out, plant grass, put a couple small holding ponds in with fountains & table and benches and walking paths, and bright lights for night.
@ilovebubu28 EXACTLY!!! I was JUST gonna say something like that! WTF!? If they KNOW this place is the FIRST place a killer goes to dump a body, why the EFF would they not rig it with some sort of security camera?????? Idiots.
This is just so fucked up that you can't even put it in words. I mean, this isn't some backwater swamp in the foothills of HImalaya, 33 women dumped in these fields, ??? I mean what the fuck.
Why do they think there has to be more than one killer?If he started at an early age, say 20 years old, he would still be capable of killing even at age 60.Most of the victims were young girls, probably 100 pounds or less, so it's possible one man could be the killer.
@judy4justice In the future all violant affenders will be put on a space station/prison a space prison that will orbit mars.Just think their will never be another prison break!
I watch these shows and then get depressed.We need to be aware of these things, yet they are so sad to hear about.I sure hope they find the killer or killers and that they be sentenced to death.They deserve no less than that!
This reeks of government involvement and MK ULTRA - when I saw that one of the victims was related to Mind Control victim Marylin Monroe and one suspect was linked to NASA , DING DING DING!!!!!
Watch : "Programmed to kill - Satanic Cover up - Serial Killers"
why is there not more time and money spent on catchin the killer or killers? I would say it must be a cop or some1 the girls would trust.
fatpinkteddy 14 hours ago
Police involvement.
jtking2504 1 day ago in playlist 48 Hours Mystery - Full Episodes
What a horrible tattoo.
scumgod13 1 week ago
How exactly is it possible that this girl is related to Marilyn Monroe on her father side as a great aunt?????????????? LOST since Monroe had one sister and she does not have the same name.
Can anyone just make some crap up and get it in the news? On top of that Baker was not Monroe's fathers real name. No reporter bothers to question I guess pretty sad if you ask me that the mother
DotiBump 4 weeks ago
@DotiBump did you listen to the story or you are gambling? they said her aunt was bigger than moroe get your grips and that isnt importnat either
24Monira 3 weeks ago
@24Monira I watched the entire show and her mom said she was kin to Monroe on her dads side by way of a great aunt.
DotiBump 1 week ago
@24Monira go to cbs 48 hours on the Texas Killing Fields at 9:35 is where her mother says she looks like Monroe who was her great aunt and kin to her. Well how can she resemble Monroe when Baker was not the father of Monroe? .
The missing girls name is Crystal Jean Baker.
DotiBump 1 week ago
@24Monira It is on this video and maybe you can just listen again, the reporter says lots of people say she resembles monroe, the mother says that is because she was kin to monroe who was her great aunt on her dads side. The girls name Crystal Jean Baker and it is not possible that Monroe was her great aunt at least not in a way that she would be biologically related.
DotiBump 4 days ago
@DotiBump ah...i dont know what you were listening to but they said ``she resembled a great, Norma Jean Baker, who became known as Marilyn Monroe``. google norma jean baker and you`ll see that is indeed MM`s name. her mothers name was Gladys Baker and her father Mortensen but her mother changed the name to Baker after her birth bc the dad was MIA. Marylin chos monroe later, as it was her mother`s maiden name and changed to ``Marylin`` at suggestion of a FOX executive.
melikab 2 weeks ago
@melikab I watched the 48 hours and her mother said she was kin to Marilyn Monroe that on her dads side of the family by way of her aunt or great aunt, but I read that the name on her birth cert was not monroe so how could she be related to her on her fathers side. I mean I would think they would check that out before they put it on 48 hours so if you know how they are related let me know because I read she had one sister and her mom did not have one either.
DotiBump 1 week ago
@DotiBump Marilyn had a half-sister, Berniece Baker Miracle. The girls did not learn of each other until Berniece was 19 and Norma Jeane 12. But once each did discover the existence of the other, they stayed in close contact--both before and after Norma Jeane became Marilyn. Bernice wrote a biography called "My Sister Marilyn" which was published in 1994 to critical acclaim. Marilyn left $10,000 to Bernice in her will.
DotiBump 1 week ago
@DotiBump $10,000 bucks. She must not have given a fuck about her. She probably left her hair dresser more.
scumgod13 1 week ago
@melikab arilyn was born Norma Jeane Mortenson in the charity ward of the Los Angeles County Hospital on 1 June 1926. Her grandmother, Della Monroe Grainger, had her baptized Norma Jeane Baker. Her mother was Gladys Pearl Monroe. For many years it was believed that Gladys's second husband Martin Edward Mortenson was Marilyn's father and name is even listed on her birth certificate. However Marilyn herself believed a salesman named Charles Stanley Gifford was her father.
DotiBump 1 week ago
@melikab entire family seems to be in California. I am just curious is all. If you watch the entire episode her mother clearly says she was kin to Monroe on her fathers side that would be Baker but Baker was not her father. At least according to her.Grace sent Monroe to live with her great-aunt, Olive Brunings in Compton, California; , Grace sent her to live with yet another one of her aunts, Ana Lower, who lived in Van Nuys, another city in Los Angeles County.
DotiBump 1 week ago
@melikab This is what I mean, her mother had three children, the boy is dead, Marilyn is one and we know dead and the third had one child who had no children. So how can this be that this girl is kin to her by a great aunt on her fathers side? If it is a claim via the father of Monroe, she has said that Baker was not her father and he is not who was on the birth cert which her grandmother had changed. I believe the father is thought to be named Miller.
DotiBump 1 week ago
@melikab Again, the union proved to be short lived and by 1926, when Gladys gave birth to Norma Jeane, her second husband Edward Mortenson was long gone as well. Mortenson was believed to be one of two men who possibly fathered Norma Jeane. The second being a C. Stanley Gifford, a
DotiBump 1 week ago
@melikab Baker was a married name of her grandmother. Or a name used by her and I looked up even siblings of Glady's Baker and find she had only one brother who died young with no kids.
DotiBump 1 week ago
@melikab The grandmother is the one who had the birth cert changed and the person on the birth cert listed was the mothers ex-husband.
DotiBump 1 week ago
@melikab Norma Jeane Mortenson (raised as Norma Jeane Baker),1. Marilyn’s mother was
Gladys Pearl Monroe,1917 John Newton “Jack” Baker, b. Kentucky ca. 1891, son of S.W. and Lucy (Epperson) Baker (div. 1921); (2) Hollywood, Calif. 11 Oct. 1924 Martin Edward Mortenson, b. Haugesund, Rogaland Co., Norway ca. 1897, d. Milton, Mahoning Co., Ohio 18 June 1929 (he apparently deserted his wife a few months after the marriage); (3) prob. California before 1960, a Mr. Eley.
DotiBump 1 week ago
@melikab Again they said she was KIN to Norma Jean Baker and that she resembled her because she was kin. To my knowledge Baker was a name used by Monroe's grandmother because she was married to a man named baker. The name on the birth cert was Mortensen and I am pretty sure that Gladys monroes mother either that was her dad and she was molested by her stepfather or it was just the family name that her mom and stepdad used so she used it and could be she used it also some people do that
DotiBump 4 days ago
@DotiBump It is actually on this video and she says Marilyn Monroe was her great aunt.
That is not possible.
DotiBump 4 days ago
@melikab like the mom gets married and the kid uses that name even if not official. Then the grandmother divorced mortonsen 4 month prior to Gladys giving birth to Marylin (Norma or after the birth.Baker is another man the grandmother of Gladys had been married to and she is the one that had the birth cert changed again it could be in keeping with them just wanting to have the same last names-most experts believe that Gladys could have been molested by mortenson but that the father of
DotiBump 4 days ago
@melikab Norma Jean Baker is either her stepdad mortenson or another man named Gifford. It is not Baker. Nor is Baker related to her mother. Yet here we have this woman on 48 hours saying her daughter Crystal Jean Baker looked like Monroe because she was Kin to her. Of course I feel sorry for the dead girls mom. And she was a beautiful girl but I do not think she looks like Monroe and I am stumped as to how they could be related.
Clearly she is saying that they are. By way of her father Baker.
DotiBump 4 days ago
Danny Boyle was going to be the director of the movie the Texas Killing Fields, but he left the movie because he thought it was to dark and would never get made. Really? Has he ever watched Seven (w/Brad Pitt) it is way darker and it got made, and it did not lose any money...
Stupid director, but I am glad M. Mann's daughter got the job, the movie is good, and I am a fan of her work, Friday Night Lights season 5.
christophertvf 1 month ago
I, agree my friend,
SuperSPOCK1701 1 month ago
I think it probably started out as one killer, but now that the Killing Fields is so well-known, and known to be a good place to dump a body, I'm sure that more killers over the years have heard about it and used it.
UltraDeb 1 month ago
go back and look at the area again, you,ll see the pattern to. it,s the secret to the case . thank you , and god bless the families too.
SuperSPOCK1701 1 month ago
I would turn my attention to a hunter , this is obvious . this guy could be in the woods and police would walk rite by him.. cause he,s a hunter. to catch a killer like this you would have to hunt him , set out bait , sooner or later he,ll come back . they allways do. in the end these children will haunt him any way forever.if i can ever help these families i will . johnnied1701@gmail.com
SuperSPOCK1701 1 month ago
then you have the copy cat. these poor kids(and it makes me weep) in my opinion where put in a pattern, thats the key. this original killer in my opinion is a hunter i mean a real hunter like ,deer , fox ,etc a trapper to be sure . to conclude . its my hunch that the 1st original killer is a skilled hunter, and probably sports trophy kills on his walls at home , or runs a hunting shop and is a very savy hunter.has a vast knowledge of that area .
SuperSPOCK1701 1 month ago
be cause he is in his element. he so blends that he,s like a chamelion, like the Ripper.... lets say the Ripper knew that the type of shoes he wore would make noise on the cobblestone st rite , so he wore rubber souls and was dead silent , he couldnt be heard and shadows was his refuge..but what makes this case difficult is copy cat killings..like in the Ripper case . same here, his intent is to cause fear that feeds his twisted appetite. then other insane people follow his lead.
SuperSPOCK1701 1 month ago
If i can, any one who has studied true crime like i have (and novice P.I ) knows that these atrocities / crimes are two fold , they have all the elements of a sexual preditor / occult ritualistic symbolisms, / sacrifices etc. ....... if i think about it it reminds me of other killers who,s shadows still lingers to this day , hence Jack The Ripper..... Zodiac and so forth....this type of killer marks his territory.....and leaves a trail to taunt police and detectives....
SuperSPOCK1701 1 month ago
I dont believe this.
it must be a insider there is no other way.
Nobody can get away that long without conviction.
It must be one person who did this.
But now its to late i think the killer wil be to old or took it in his grave and probebly he told his childeren when he died i love,
For al this beautyfull woman
R.I.P.
rochelfan 1 month ago
I live here. . . League City.
poisoncupcake74 1 month ago
I feel so sorry for all the families of the murdered women, but especially for Laura's father - his pain is palpable even through the video. I hope the murderer(s) are found and put away forever.
Morgana0x 1 month ago
Not certain all cases are linked, no M.O. confirmation across all cases & we need to know how they were abducted, killed,disposed of - are the killing fields where they were killed or are they merely a secondary crime scene? It should also be known that young, brunette, petite women are statistically more likely to become the victims of serial killers in terms of body type (according to 'Sexual Homicide') so saying 33 young women is a justification for case linkage is jumping the gun somewhat.
thesuckpuppet18 1 month ago
What makes me mad is how long it took the different police agencies to get together and realise they had something terrible going on.
Morgana0x 1 month ago
IMO sex offenders should be locked up for life. History has shown that these perverts just cannot control themselves. Keep them in jail.
cawimmer430 1 month ago
I watch a lot of these videos, wondering how I have made it to the age of thirty. I can't believe this happens to people!
kristinj1981 1 month ago
Omg I live in La Porte texas way close galveston tx.
pollosteven 1 month ago
@pollosteven yep I'm in League City, scary huh?
poisoncupcake74 1 month ago
@poisoncupcake74 Scary ohh yes !!!
pollosteven 1 month ago
There's something very weird about the investigation.
cosmosspring 1 month ago
Thanks for the great upload!
QueenOfTheHighway71 1 month ago
Terribly sad. This is a little off topic, but what nationality is Laura's Mother? She sounds South African.
TheRichmondTiger 2 months ago
@TheRichmondTiger I think it sounds more like the UK. South Africans have a slighly different accent.
MrLen120453 1 month ago
they should put "cameras" in the KILLING FIELDS
ilovebubu28 2 months ago 13
@ilovebubu28 the one bad thing about that is that a lot of people who claim to see spirets spend a lot of time out there, and if the police put cameras out there you do realize that they will have to do follow-ups on every body they see out there so while the police are tracking down a ghostbuster the real killer could be making his move.
gogogogo9765 2 months ago
@ilovebubu28 I was thinking the EXACT same thing - or maybe one day it will become more developed? So terribly sad.
glitterdust40 2 months ago
@ilovebubu28 u are absolutely right!
sancti78 1 month ago
@ilovebubu28 OMG I think the exact same thing!
poisoncupcake74 1 month ago
@ilovebubu28, they would have to be deer cameras, and they can be stolen, I know the area a little bit, I drove by several times on early 09, it to far to run wired cameras. What they could do and maybe should do is raise money for a memorial for all the women have been tied to this crime. They could scrap out the metal, lease one a dozer and flatten it out, plant grass, put a couple small holding ponds in with fountains & table and benches and walking paths, and bright lights for night.
christophertvf 1 month ago
@ilovebubu28 EXACTLY!!! I was JUST gonna say something like that! WTF!? If they KNOW this place is the FIRST place a killer goes to dump a body, why the EFF would they not rig it with some sort of security camera?????? Idiots.
GCTB12 3 days ago
Tim Miller is a hero. What amazing strength he has.
ironychan 2 months ago
Why the heck am I watching this? Isnt life scary/messed up as it is.
IkramKetchman 2 months ago
This is just so fucked up that you can't even put it in words. I mean, this isn't some backwater swamp in the foothills of HImalaya, 33 women dumped in these fields, ??? I mean what the fuck.
CroMarduk 2 months ago
Talk about a name prefiguring a career Miss Moriarty!!!!! Ha ha ha:)
turockandar 2 months ago
Why do they think there has to be more than one killer?If he started at an early age, say 20 years old, he would still be capable of killing even at age 60.Most of the victims were young girls, probably 100 pounds or less, so it's possible one man could be the killer.
judy4justice 2 months ago
@judy4justice In the future all violant affenders will be put on a space station/prison a space prison that will orbit mars.Just think their will never be another prison break!
gogogogo9765 2 months ago
I watch these shows and then get depressed.We need to be aware of these things, yet they are so sad to hear about.I sure hope they find the killer or killers and that they be sentenced to death.They deserve no less than that!
judy4justice 2 months ago
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TheMchornet 2 months ago
WTF?? HOUSTON WAKE UP.you tell me that NOBODY saw nothing ,damnnnnnnnnn all these young girls being murder and no witnesses.so sad so sad
SERVICECANADAGC 2 months ago
So sad that a place like that is given a name for.all the kids that have been dumped there. Shame.
INEZ30HUNT 2 months ago
History repeats itself. Keep on the look out people!
chante707 3 months ago
I lived close to the killing fields on 518 in kemah...creepy.
bosslady85912 3 months ago
to many sicko on the earth. anyone who klills a child should be killed
sammy11232003 3 months ago
@ElleCM2 Oh pleaaaaaase
jhonen32629 3 months ago
I thin that many of these murders are not connected.
KevinVancouver2 3 months ago
@KevinVancouver2
yep its just a convenient ground to dump bodies.... not the same killer
hans1066 3 months ago
@ angelimaep thnx for posting...
Pauly69s 3 months ago
this bad guy is most likely dead
BigIronTech 3 months ago in playlist More videos from angelimaep 5
I wanna the guy who did these terrible things to those girls to die slowly in pain.
nxmarcos 3 months ago
Other serial killers have heard about this dumping ground.
The police were negelent in responding to these parents about their daughters being missing also. They might have gotten DNA if they acted sooner...
MsDizzy1992 3 months ago
This reeks of government involvement and MK ULTRA - when I saw that one of the victims was related to Mind Control victim Marylin Monroe and one suspect was linked to NASA , DING DING DING!!!!!
Watch : "Programmed to kill - Satanic Cover up - Serial Killers"
watch?v=GUrqLhbfjeo
ElleCM2 3 months ago
so sad, thanks for uploading
chAdRAp 4 months ago