im not ever gona riot, even though im in the military but still pepper spray is the worse feeling in the world and i have no problem spraying you rioters.
AnarchoCommunism is the solution. When people recognize that everyone is equal and has no monetary value attached to their life the world will operate as 1. The problem we face today is those who resist change and in what form we go about making the changes. They are forcing us into following what they have deemed exceptable, punishable by serious injuries including death or incarceration I believe people have a right to defend themselves against anyone trying to force anything on them.
It's the poor people that feel the effects of higher fuel prices first. I'm afraid Nepal will have to accept things as they are and will have to find ways to consume less fuel.
so naive to understand the global situation by these students. they are not right all the times though government make more mistakes. government had to go along with world. how about protesting all over the world?
How about protesting at the root cause of the oil crisis, the wheat crisis, the rice crisis, etc.?
The Federal Reserve system of the US. Ben Bernanke and his partners-in-crime have been flooding the world with USD to prop up the unsustainable US economy. By creating USD out of thin air, they devalue every USD in existence, meaning more must be used to buy the same amount of commodities. Any commodity traded internationally in USD is affected: oil, wheat, rice, etc.
See, this is what happens when you subsidize - instead of letting free markets do their work.
It's almost HUMOROUS to watch commie's (is it any wonder they were carrying a RED FLAG) throw a fit when the free markets bear down on them. YOU CANNOT stop market forces. It's funny to watch the little commie's pitch a fit because they can't have mommy government take care of them, and they take a free ride. The U.S. has been footing THESE PEOPLES bill.
Seeing the speculators in futures alone is driveing up the prices on everything world wide, And when you say free Market free for who the world banks top corperations, They are liveing off our blood and taxes. Free market is only free for the filthy rich. Like George Carlin says its a big club and we aint in it,.
Is like like purchasing a stock at a fraction of its actual value in the hopes it goes up in value? I remeber seeing a documentry on how Thousands of speculators lost everything when JP Morgan JD Rockefeller created the run on money, And was it not future speculation driveing up the price of stocks on Enron? I know very little about that racket. But i know enough to stay the hell out of it. Were heading for a world economy collapse. If a country like SouthAfrica ever dumped gold on the market?
Speculation is going long (buying in hopes of a rise in price), as well as going short (selling short in hopes of a fall in prices). Over 12,000 speculators are shorting Oil right now - at the current moment, hoping to profit from a fall in prices. That keeps DOWNWARD pressure on the Oil markets, and why we're not staring at $200 or $300 a barrel oil.
The more people you have speculating (long and short) on a commodity given the economic fundametals of a situation - the more fair that price.
Wheni was a kid my father had shares in a goverment owned weapons munitions company called Canadian Arsenols. They were supplying all of NATO with the 308 or 7.62 Ammo for the Fal or Fn Natos standard weapon for boots. It posted profits exceeding 1 million each year. A Neocon Conservitive got into power and started eliminating all crown corperations at a fraction of the yearly profits, We had seen this happen with Dehaveland Aircraft, I .5 Billon Tax Dollars sold to boing for 80 million. fair?
AT: cycimian may not know anything about futures trading, but I do, and your comments about it are disingenuous. Firstly, you state that 12,000 speculators are shorting oil, and cite that as being downward pressure, without stating that it's a zero-sum game and for every short there has to be a long. And, it is the net speculative position, being relative, that is the key, not some absolute position. "A rising tide lifts all boats". And you fail to mention margin lending's role: his main point.
My point was (I thought) obvious: you were telling someone that didn't know about the futures market only one side of the equation, in order to make it out like the futures market was some sort of benevolent institution that was working to the consumer's benefit, to make your case that "The U.S. has been footing THESE PEOPLES bill". That is, given that you claim to know how it works, you were lying to him to make an erroneous point, rather than pointing the blame where it really lies: at the Fed
lastnymleft, you have set me straight before when I was wrong and I'll give you another chance LOL. My understanding is that in India and Nepal and other countries maybe, that what they pay for gasoline is subsidized by their government. Now that the subsidies are going away, or shrinking, these people now have to pay more for their fuel. Is that correct??
s8_1/2: Yes. Worldwide, fuels are generally subject to taxes, set as a % of gross price. As the price of oil has rocketed, the taxes have risen proportionately with it. This has meant a windfall of tax payments to governments in those countries, and public outcry at the fact that the public are suffering, whilst the government and the oil companies get windfall gains.
Conversely, in some countries, the fuels are subsidized as a % of the gross price. As the oil price has rocketed, the cost to...
...government of paying the proportionately increasing subsidies has become excessive and is being wound back. Reductions in those subsidies is the equivalent of giving a man a fish though, rather than teaching him how to fish, as it is only minor relief. It gives them an oil price from, say, 3-6 months ago but the price continues to rise, so they'll be paying the higher prices soon enough. Also, the government has lost out on the tax revenue, meaning that there won't be as many public services.
"the government has lost out on the tax revenue, meaning that there won't be as many public services."
I didn't write that sentence as clearly as I should have. When I say that there won't be as many public services, I mean as opposed to what it would have been spending, had they been able to keep the money coming in. They'll still be able to provide the level of services from 3-6 months back.
When you see these videos about rising oil, and food prices, remember where the blame lies: the Fed.
AT: This is NOT a standard supply and demand free market issue. If it were prices would be rising slowly. This is a currency and speculation problem, primarily the former
"YOU CANNOT stop market forces"
Tell that to Ben Bernanke, and the Plunge Protection Team
"The U.S. has been footing THESE PEOPLES bill"
Rubbish. The US is causing the world food and oil crises. This is predominantly due to Bernanke flooding the world with USD, devaluing them making everything traded in USD more expensive
Are you SERIOUSLY going to stand here, and try to say that economic fundamentals do not affect volatility in a marketplace? Because that is exactly what you just said. You just said if it was a supply and demand free market issue - prices would rise slowly.
That's about the most ignorant thing I've read in QUITE some time. So economic fundamentals no longer affect volatility in a market place.
Who said anything about volatility? I was talking price increase. Are you really suggesting that the run up in oil, wheat, rice, corn, in the year, has been primarily due to supply and demand factors (since you disclaimed it being speculation)? I take it you're not a licensed financial adviser!
Despite what USG says, supply and demand are have only been a small part of the run up, and if you think otherwise, then I am sorry for the people that you "teach"
oh i know....my poor friends in Washington State are being covered in chemtrails...being sprayed like fukn insects and all their neighbors have their heads down and their fat nasty pervert asses glued to the TV!
im not ever gona riot, even though im in the military but still pepper spray is the worse feeling in the world and i have no problem spraying you rioters.
captainlevi 3 years ago
we cannot avoid the current situation riots will not solve it
BIGMEL1981 3 years ago
But sadly it is a hella more effective than peaceful protest
GhostVirusx90 3 years ago
@GhostVirusx90 and more fun too
mahestar 11 months ago
@mahestar Yep, capitalism hates its shiny things being smashed : )
GhostVirusx90 11 months ago
What is the song at the end? Sounds very melodic.
mimeNo9 3 years ago
AnarchoCommunism is the solution. When people recognize that everyone is equal and has no monetary value attached to their life the world will operate as 1. The problem we face today is those who resist change and in what form we go about making the changes. They are forcing us into following what they have deemed exceptable, punishable by serious injuries including death or incarceration I believe people have a right to defend themselves against anyone trying to force anything on them.
kci0010 3 years ago
It's the poor people that feel the effects of higher fuel prices first. I'm afraid Nepal will have to accept things as they are and will have to find ways to consume less fuel.
EmperorAtahualpa 3 years ago
"Are you gonna go, to the Sodom and Gomorrah Show?
It's got everything you need for your complete enntertainment and instruction.
Sun, sex, sin, divine intervention, death and destruction.
The Sodom and Gomorrah show Is a once-in-a-lifetime production"
HomoGeneyes 3 years ago
so naive to understand the global situation by these students. they are not right all the times though government make more mistakes. government had to go along with world. how about protesting all over the world?
gotheadshot 3 years ago
How about protesting at the root cause of the oil crisis, the wheat crisis, the rice crisis, etc.?
The Federal Reserve system of the US. Ben Bernanke and his partners-in-crime have been flooding the world with USD to prop up the unsustainable US economy. By creating USD out of thin air, they devalue every USD in existence, meaning more must be used to buy the same amount of commodities. Any commodity traded internationally in USD is affected: oil, wheat, rice, etc.
END THE FED! Or trade in Euro
lastnymleft 3 years ago
See, this is what happens when you subsidize - instead of letting free markets do their work.
It's almost HUMOROUS to watch commie's (is it any wonder they were carrying a RED FLAG) throw a fit when the free markets bear down on them. YOU CANNOT stop market forces. It's funny to watch the little commie's pitch a fit because they can't have mommy government take care of them, and they take a free ride. The U.S. has been footing THESE PEOPLES bill.
AirelonTrading 3 years ago
Seeing the speculators in futures alone is driveing up the prices on everything world wide, And when you say free Market free for who the world banks top corperations, They are liveing off our blood and taxes. Free market is only free for the filthy rich. Like George Carlin says its a big club and we aint in it,.
cycimian 3 years ago
I AM a futures speculator, and I wish you'd know something of the process before you speak of it ...
AirelonTrading 3 years ago
Is like like purchasing a stock at a fraction of its actual value in the hopes it goes up in value? I remeber seeing a documentry on how Thousands of speculators lost everything when JP Morgan JD Rockefeller created the run on money, And was it not future speculation driveing up the price of stocks on Enron? I know very little about that racket. But i know enough to stay the hell out of it. Were heading for a world economy collapse. If a country like SouthAfrica ever dumped gold on the market?
cycimian 3 years ago
Speculation is going long (buying in hopes of a rise in price), as well as going short (selling short in hopes of a fall in prices). Over 12,000 speculators are shorting Oil right now - at the current moment, hoping to profit from a fall in prices. That keeps DOWNWARD pressure on the Oil markets, and why we're not staring at $200 or $300 a barrel oil.
The more people you have speculating (long and short) on a commodity given the economic fundametals of a situation - the more fair that price.
AirelonTrading 3 years ago
Wheni was a kid my father had shares in a goverment owned weapons munitions company called Canadian Arsenols. They were supplying all of NATO with the 308 or 7.62 Ammo for the Fal or Fn Natos standard weapon for boots. It posted profits exceeding 1 million each year. A Neocon Conservitive got into power and started eliminating all crown corperations at a fraction of the yearly profits, We had seen this happen with Dehaveland Aircraft, I .5 Billon Tax Dollars sold to boing for 80 million. fair?
cycimian 3 years ago
AT: cycimian may not know anything about futures trading, but I do, and your comments about it are disingenuous. Firstly, you state that 12,000 speculators are shorting oil, and cite that as being downward pressure, without stating that it's a zero-sum game and for every short there has to be a long. And, it is the net speculative position, being relative, that is the key, not some absolute position. "A rising tide lifts all boats". And you fail to mention margin lending's role: his main point.
lastnymleft 3 years ago
Yeah? Your point? Of course it's zero sum. I tell that to every person I teach. Your point?
AirelonTrading 3 years ago
My point was (I thought) obvious: you were telling someone that didn't know about the futures market only one side of the equation, in order to make it out like the futures market was some sort of benevolent institution that was working to the consumer's benefit, to make your case that "The U.S. has been footing THESE PEOPLES bill". That is, given that you claim to know how it works, you were lying to him to make an erroneous point, rather than pointing the blame where it really lies: at the Fed
lastnymleft 3 years ago
lastnymleft, you have set me straight before when I was wrong and I'll give you another chance LOL. My understanding is that in India and Nepal and other countries maybe, that what they pay for gasoline is subsidized by their government. Now that the subsidies are going away, or shrinking, these people now have to pay more for their fuel. Is that correct??
super8hogan 3 years ago
s8_1/2: Yes. Worldwide, fuels are generally subject to taxes, set as a % of gross price. As the price of oil has rocketed, the taxes have risen proportionately with it. This has meant a windfall of tax payments to governments in those countries, and public outcry at the fact that the public are suffering, whilst the government and the oil companies get windfall gains.
Conversely, in some countries, the fuels are subsidized as a % of the gross price. As the oil price has rocketed, the cost to...
lastnymleft 3 years ago
...government of paying the proportionately increasing subsidies has become excessive and is being wound back. Reductions in those subsidies is the equivalent of giving a man a fish though, rather than teaching him how to fish, as it is only minor relief. It gives them an oil price from, say, 3-6 months ago but the price continues to rise, so they'll be paying the higher prices soon enough. Also, the government has lost out on the tax revenue, meaning that there won't be as many public services.
lastnymleft 3 years ago
"the government has lost out on the tax revenue, meaning that there won't be as many public services."
I didn't write that sentence as clearly as I should have. When I say that there won't be as many public services, I mean as opposed to what it would have been spending, had they been able to keep the money coming in. They'll still be able to provide the level of services from 3-6 months back.
When you see these videos about rising oil, and food prices, remember where the blame lies: the Fed.
lastnymleft 3 years ago
lastnymleft, thanks again for clarifying that for me. I appreciate it. Are you self-taught or do you have a degree in these fields? Just curious:)
super8hogan 3 years ago
s8: I'm an autodidact. It's a natural by-product of "waking up", which I did about 6-7 years ago. (Waking up = taking the Red Pill)
You will find most (if not all) Ron Paul supporters are similar, or on their way to being so, and are just filling in the gaps of knowledge.
I'm happy to help, as best I can.
lastnymleft 3 years ago
watch?v=8g2mr3hJD-U as well as
watch?v=JO6dhGhLh6Y&watch_response
present a more balanced viewpoint than "let's riot in the streets because we don't like the price"
AirelonTrading 3 years ago
AT: This is NOT a standard supply and demand free market issue. If it were prices would be rising slowly. This is a currency and speculation problem, primarily the former
"YOU CANNOT stop market forces"
Tell that to Ben Bernanke, and the Plunge Protection Team
"The U.S. has been footing THESE PEOPLES bill"
Rubbish. The US is causing the world food and oil crises. This is predominantly due to Bernanke flooding the world with USD, devaluing them making everything traded in USD more expensive
lastnymleft 3 years ago
Are you SERIOUSLY going to stand here, and try to say that economic fundamentals do not affect volatility in a marketplace? Because that is exactly what you just said. You just said if it was a supply and demand free market issue - prices would rise slowly.
That's about the most ignorant thing I've read in QUITE some time. So economic fundamentals no longer affect volatility in a market place.
WOW.
AirelonTrading 3 years ago
AT: You TEACH people? Goodness me! Ha!
Who said anything about volatility? I was talking price increase. Are you really suggesting that the run up in oil, wheat, rice, corn, in the year, has been primarily due to supply and demand factors (since you disclaimed it being speculation)? I take it you're not a licensed financial adviser!
Despite what USG says, supply and demand are have only been a small part of the run up, and if you think otherwise, then I am sorry for the people that you "teach"
lastnymleft 3 years ago
AT: "That's about the most ignorant thing I've read in QUITE some time."
That would be because you apparently don't know the difference between price increase and price volatility.
lastnymleft 3 years ago
amen
RevoVansen 3 years ago
why don't the fat ass lazy Americans protest as well? it is their administration that has caused ALL economic upheavals in the world today...
ratonnewmex 3 years ago 2
1 in 4 Americans are clincally obese. Fat bastards cant walk, let alone protest!
WimmyRoad 3 years ago
oh i know....my poor friends in Washington State are being covered in chemtrails...being sprayed like fukn insects and all their neighbors have their heads down and their fat nasty pervert asses glued to the TV!
ratonnewmex 3 years ago