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  • Hey anyone can suggest what I should upgrade to get better performance out of my 3sge besides getting a 3sgte?

  • where did you get those valve's from? I need some for my gen 3 3sge.

  • Custom made to suit application.

  • if i bought a 1997 beams red top and rebuilt all the internanals (pistons, rods, valves, cams, ect) put ITB's on it and high flow header, high compression (about 12:5:1) and maybe stroked it and bored it out to 2.2 with NO TURBO how much HP do you think i would have???

  • I'd say from 260 to 280 hp with stock cams

  • the rain is happy too...

  • Now thats a beautiful sight !!!

    What a great motor.

    I have a 3S-FE, do u think i could put a 3S-GE head to head same performance. Because last time i checked that was the only diff between the motors.

  • Dont know for sure whether its possible but i do know the 3SGE hds of all generations flow better then the 3sfe hds

  • Yeah that was the major diff between the two, FE was for economy and GE for performance.

    Ive read around and many think its a "no point mod", many recommend a 3S-GTE conversion 8(

    I just want my 3S-FE to perform better, with minimal cost. ie CAI, exhaust etc.

    Except i dont think its possible to fit a POD filter on a Gen 1 3S-GE/FE due to throttle sensor rubbish.

  • Hi! Iv jst about to start rebuilding a 3sge na engine for my 96 mr2- can you recomend any companies to get tuning parts from?(camshafts pistons valves etc)

    Would very much appreciate your advise as having trouble finding such companies!

  • Thanks a lot for the suggestions. I wanted to ask though, I've never seen any superchargers made for the 3sge, and also, I've gotten a lot of shops telling me I couldn't really boost it...I was confused, because I know there is almost no difference in block design (other then oil galleys) and internals (which I would be swapping anyways), but still, they convinced me that I should stay NA until i could afford a jdm 3sgte platform to start with for FI. Where have you found cams for 3sge? jdm? thx

  • You can really make anything fit if you have the money or the capability to do the mods. Fortunately for me i build race engines and have the machinery and the access to good parts at a good price. All the parts in my head cost me $0

    and all the machining (which was weeks of work)cost me $0 for someone who doesn't have

    that opportunity the price would be overwhelming. Like everything money talks

    im afraid. I have custom cams made to specs that i chose.

  • @Xceldyne knew wrong cams, do you understand the theory of lift-valve diametre.. bet your gone way over board im sure of it

  • I'm currently pulling out my 1st gen 3SGE from my 86 celica gts (st162). Do you have any suggestions, seeing as you have obviously rebuilt one before? thanks!

  • NA will cost you more than Turbo or Supercharging it as you have to do ALOT of mods to gain a decent HP figure. If your sticking with NA :- CAMS & Head work are a must. Turbo would be cheaper and u would get bigger gains in the long run.

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