I understand what some of you are saying about the sister's clothes.. In any church, not just holiness, pentecostal, or apostolic, if you are in the pulpit or have a position in the church, then you should dress modest, with not too short or tight clothing.. You have to understand that people are always watching you, and it can be a distraction from getting the word.. They can get caught up in looking at the persons's body and clothing, that they dont recieve the word.. Not just this her either
There is nothing wrong with what the lady had on. Thats was wrong with so called church folks no they always looking at the out side and not whats on the inside. If Yolanda Adams had on the same dress nothing would be said only because she has a little weigh its a problem. Just worry about your wardrobe and then you won't have time to worry about others.
WOW......that pastors wife was getting it! For those attacking her...STOP allowing the enemy to use you! None of us are in a position to JUDGE her clothes, her praise, her body shape.....NOTHING! Just praise God for yourself and allow her to do the same.
What is the name of the pulpit attendant at 0:28? I saw her at convention and have seen her before.... She seriously has a different hat of the same style for EVERY outfit!!! Amazing!
@Serilous this is an apostolic church i was raised & breed it...i know because of the annoiting of the holyghost..your pety man made traditions will do more harm than good to not just the apostolic relegion but 1st & formost to the kingdom of GOD!
would you shallow santified holy of the most holy ppl learn GOD for yourself and stop letting traditions ans silly beliefs and opinions block heaven and stop spewing your ignorants on other ppl running GODS ppl away if you wanna be sharp as a tack when you go to church..cool if you wanna wear a sweat suit cool just go th the churchhouse!
If I was there, I would have shouted a hole in the floor because if I can feel the Spirit watching the video, being there would have been too much!!!!
Thats right its not clothes and women can't help that somtimes even if they wore big dresses it would not stop what they have from showing, Maybe thats just a weekness you have when you see women with big butts. And you not perfect from the start with.
God could use this video to touch somebody heart. I just think its ashame if they scroll down and read such negative comments. Oh that men should praise the Lord.
Biblical holiness means complete submission to his will and direction for our lives. This requires making Jesus Lord and Savior, from the inside out. The problem is that we call Jesus Savior and Lord but we are not truly willing to accept the Lord part. Making Jesus Lord over every aspect of our lives, from our careers and our families to even the way we dress. I'm not a Christian that believes women can't wear pants, but we shouldn't be wearing tight and revealing clothes.
I love the apostolic anointing. It resides heavy in the church. But on a side note, the first woman who was shouting without the white on had the ultimate big-butt shout lmbo
There are people who complain about the way real sancified people dress and yet send their children to shcool in a uniform and never say a word. When a person goes into the Arm Forces the first thing they do is take away your idenity and give you theirs. They cut your hair give you a uniform and a number to identify you. Even when you're of base you still have to look and act like a soldier. What's the problem?
Actually its both...When man Kind in the beginning was at their peek of holiness before sinning they were naked. God even posed the question "who told you that your naked" How did they know to go get leaves and cover themselves? SO i say that to say this. Ppl say that clothes has nothing to do with relationship. But its a fact, if your not willing to give up a carnal way of dressing it truly shows how close you are to God. Do not mistake Gods spirit falling on u in a service for relationship!!
Holiness is first and foremost a matter of the Heart. You taking on the very nature of God Himself for He is a Holy God. Holiness is seperation from worldly things which include the way we live, the way we talk, walk, and yes even the way we dress. If Holiness is on the inside ..you arent going to want to dress like, talk, like, or be like the world.
@cloventongues85 Hey glorrry when you have the Holy Ghost on the inside it will teach you how to dress live walk just like you say it will guide you if only we would listen and do as it tells us to
@cloventongues85 Amen. HE said to be ye Holy just as HE is Holy. People tend to disregard what Holiness mean or they just ignorant to it or just want to do and live the way they want to live but you are so correct it has a lot to do with our attire because we are representing GOD. I know that some dont change over night and I dont sit in judgement of any one...if they are real with GOD it will be pressed upon them to change their attire but in due time.
I'm one who will stand by the word of God that says "for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart."It's the heart God wants people the heart.Everything else will fade away.
this was a sunday morning. come as you are refers to your heart and mindset not your attire. morgan park has high standards. and just like if ur church posted a short video we wld not b able to make a full assesment of what u believe in or what ur rules of standard are.
@dmoore76- what church do u go to. y dont yall have videos posted on youtube. is ur only concern that this woman is thick and she mite distract sm1. the truth is it dont really matter what a woman wears u can find smthing attractive about her. her jiggling is her praising God. did u expect her to have a cute shout! lol..bishop e is 1 of few holiness preachers left. since she is a pastor she probly put a robe on at her church to preach. so she dint have to wear a robe to attend the svc.
Ok i understand what Hollines is but i will say u can look the part . act the part, But i will say this, TRADITION LEAVES ROOM FOR SIN! No i don't approve of all the things that have happened but if you read the word there is nothing we can do about it. We need to stop with all this RELIGIOUS CRAP. JESUS said the live the like him it had nothing to do with tradition. We need to follow what JESUS said and leave man out of it
there was nothing worng with what that woman was wearing... she just a thick lady..the dress covered her entire body...what you want her to wear a sheet ?
i guess some churches still keep people in bondage... next people gonna be talking about people with open toe shoes and makeup on...
I didn't see anything wrong with what she had on, it covered her body it was up to you to notice anything that protruded but she just thick some dresses hug woman and there is nothing wrong with it, just as some men where the water high pants, lol.
to tell you the truth is going on too much in the apostolic church...there was a time when we believed holiness was right..HOLINESS IS STILL RIGHT...my church till this dont wear jewelry, no makeup, women dont wear pants, women dont cut their...and we are over 300 members strong!
AMEN im not apostolic and Church of God in Christ and my church is the same way..the church is changing for the worst but ALL have not given up on holiness! God still has some witnesses! and the world and maybeline is not who we are to look like and act like but holiness become the house of God forever!
bet there are plenty of women who wear skirts, wear jewelry, dont put on makeup, dont cut their hair who be fornicating. That doesnt matter. Holiness is doing what Gods commands Ten Command. People thing that women who does are holy and can just check those criterias thus the are holy. unfortunely, my church believes this, yet peps still be acting a fool. People need to really start asking God for forgiveness and stop living double lifeTheres plenty of non-jewelry adorned people going to Hell.
HOLINESS IS THE ONLY WAY.... but understand that holiness is a lifestyle... know how to decipher whats gods rules from mans rules... god didnt condemn men or women from looking good. those old school rules were put in place in churches to make the women less attractive to the men of the chruch so the men wouldnt sin.... thats not the way of god but of men.... i been to thoese churches and their official hairstyle is a jerry curl or french roll... i grew up in the olschool church..
But Anyways they was praising God!!!! I love giving God the praise while I STILL can hey!!! Lord I'm thankful for your new mercies everyday and for keeping when I was doing wrong and for letting me know that there is deliverance and forgiveness we need to seek and hold on to it!
I'm just saying that we need to stop judging and looking down on people because of their outward appearance. Maybe that lady has a hard time shopping for clothes that fits her right... who know lol
I mean she's a thick woman what do he expect and who said her attire was a distraction to anyone? She was covered up not showing skin her clothes just fits her because she's thick. This just shows how people confuse pettiness with rigtheousness, dmoore76 like the rest of us needs to worry about our personal salvation and not some else's clothes, trust me when you get to KNOW Christ he will show YOU to YOURSELF and you won't be quick to judge or "comment" on people in church!!!
They don't make appropriate clothing for thick women in chicago? Since she knew she would stand before the ppl, one would think she would do an examination b4 she left the house. I KNOW the Lord and what He stands for. Your outward appearance is not a petty issue because it is addressed in scripture. I know u don't like that. As far as unbelievers coming as they are, that is a seperate issue. We are talking about this woman(who is a pastor) wearing a form fitting dress in the
you right thats wat run ppl out da church they could be the ugliest non dressin bomb and no jesus more than you can think of thank you 4 makin this comment b blessed
No wonder sinners don't want to come into our churches today... because "church" people will just be looking them up and down because of their dress choice. We need to accept people and love them AS THEY ARE. I don't care how they dress. If they have torn up jeans and a ripped up shirt, at least their coming into the house of God. That's along with church people too. People has different styles and preferences.
HOLINESS IS RIGHT! They come as they are first then when they are taught modesty then they dress right! i still believe in the old school apostolic dress code!
Since you all still trippin about people's attire you all claim holiness this and holiness that, then explain why MOST of HOLINESS churches have GAY ministers of music and GAY Pastors and Ministers whether its closet or not its WRONG, and no one is picking and choosing what to follow out of the Bible and niether one of you are HOLY so get of here you both are SINNERS, and you two ARE sinning because you are totally BACKBITING. Typical Pharisees and Saducees!!! not surprised at ALL!
You sound silly. I can't say MOST holiness churches are filled with any particular group of people because I have not visited/fellowshipped with MOST of the holiness churches in existence. That is an ignorant statement. That's like someone saying that MOST blacks are this or MOST whites are this......totally irresponsible statement. If someone is engaging in homosexual activity, it is wrong according to the Bible and should be addressed. We are looking at this particular video and commenting on
the inappropriate attire of someone(a pastor I might add) that was allowed to stand before the ppl of God and ultimately became a distraction. I would think that a pastor would look in the mirror and discern that her attire could cause someone to stumble. You and I are both sick. I am sick of folk who get offended by righteousness. I want folk to see Jesus. There are unsaved folk that tune into youtube and it can be used as a vehicle to introduce Christ. Let's get back to holiness.
Seems like nobody was distracted but you. When i see this clip all i see is a thick woman. I believe if the dress was a different color it would've looked a little better on her. I've seen much worst in churches where women actually show skin. This woman was fully dressed. It was a little tight but she's a thick woman. The service was HOT! I know cuz i was there. Get your house in order first.
My house is in order. There is a standard is God's house. Take inventory b4 u leave the house, especially if u are going to stand behind the sacred desk.
Here I go again......When you see that woman in the pulpit, inappropriately dressed for church, let alone the pulpit, it clearly explains why Paul told Timothy to tell the women to dress in MODEST apparel. Now before she left home, the Holy Ghost should have told her that she was revealing too much. And what the heck is she doing in the pulpit anyway??? OUT OF ORDER!!!
It's funny how a lot of so called "christians" are quick to point out things in church instead of keeping their mind stayed on Jesus and in the mode of worship, like the word of God says "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," but you all want to talk about somebody's attire lets look at ourselves and salvation before we put time in pettiness!
Talkin religion huh? I hate that. Women wearing pants thing... really... I mean come on. Yeah I'm pentecostal, but that's taking it too far. If women wearing pants is arrousing to you, you need to check YOUR own heart instead judging and telling people what they should and should not be doing.
Please stop with the "check your heart" routine. There is a standard of holiness. The Bible speaks of avoiding anything that may cause your brother to stumble. The problem with a lot of "christians" is that we pick and choose what we want to believe. The Bible is not a buffet in which you can pick and choose what you want. You have to eat the WHOLE book. Pray for Pastor E. Just because you went through a season does not mean that you lower the standard in order to keep the people happy.
From the way some of you all are talking, I would think your churches are perfect. You cannot try to attack my Bishop based off one pastor in one video. Bishop does believe holiness is still right and he preaches it every sunday. You do not go to our church so you don't what he teaches or preaches. How are you going to make a judgement on one video? You should be praying for all pastors and churches because none are perfect, including yours. Have a blessed day.
Don't get sensitive. I don't want to go to your church. The fact is that this woman was more of a distraction than anything else and she should of taken an inventory before she left home. There is still a standard in God's house. Point blank. I'm sure there are plenty of churches that fall short(including mine) but they aren't posted on youtube. Sorry!!!!! It is what it is.
Well you should have said most of what you just said in the first place and this was not posted by someone from our church, but I don't like arguing on youtube, so God bless you.
I am far from ignorant. This isn't a preachment and therefore cannot be taken out of context. This woman(who is a pastor by the way) is in the pulpit with a form fitting dress dancing around with all her business jiggling in front of the congregation. Someone should have covered her up. Everyone is inthe church is not saved and this woman could have hindered someone's deliverance. I'm old school and they taught us correctly.
Exactly "old school". Things like that are the reason people don't wanna join churches today. These sold called "sanctified believers" are so caught up in "religious beliefs" , rules, and old school ways, that they push away potential new saints. Beating people over the head with excess rules and regulations is not what is important. I doubt if Jesus were still walking around in physical form today, I doubt he'd waste his time Judging people like this because of ridiculousness standards
Oh please. The standard is never let down to appease people. People will never truly get delivered if they see the same thing in the church that they see in the world. Rules have existed since the beginning of time. The anarchy we see in the church today is a result of a setting aside of regulations. These so called old school rules never killed anyone. In fact, people had a greater respect for the church. Now we allow secular artists to have concerts in our church. We no longer see a need
sunday school. You can't tell the difference between a believer and a non believer. And there is a difference. The Bible says to make a difference between clean and unclean. You can have all this new age stuff and I'm in my ealry 30's. Folks that grew up in true holiness know what I am talking about. Those old mothers would mentor the young women. Those old deacons and elders would talk to the young men and you valued their advice.
Amen and i agree im a young minister in a holiness/pentecostal church and you are telling the truth when the church get back to being the church and stop trying to be hollywood and worldy then we will get the Holyghost power back! the world is not our mentor nor example nor guider the HOLYGHOST is! lets get back to HOLINESS!!! GODS standards
i see that ur young, holiness has nothing to do with the clothes that someone has on their backs. but its a lifestyle. the banner that your waiving is a standerd that men set back in the day.. just cuz women arent wearing dresses down to the for and a bun hair style doesnt meain they arnt saved or holy... the bible tell u what holiness is so whats the confusion
@songmaster18 This is not apostolic! This is a regular ole church. TRUE apostolic churches follow the teachings of the bible! the sisters are wearing jewelry and no hats!!! Apostolic???? PLEASE!
@serilousxl Is there some LOVE up under all of those hats?? I believe Jesus would speak to many of you in the same way that he spoke to the Pharises... Plenty of "TRUE" Apostolics will still find themselves in hell..."HATS" "MAKE-UP-LESS" AND ALL...smh......
When this video first came on, some missionaries should have run up into that pulpit and wrapped a bed sheet around that big behind. Ppl need to recognize what they are wearing to God's house. SMH
Dmoore76...........AMEN! 100% right! No respect for God's house anymore, and they think God is gonna respect theirs. NOT. In my opinion, after all "Bishop E" has gone through, he should be more determine to hold up right standards in the church. I mean are they affraid to offend the people, but not afraid to offend God??? The answer to my question is YES. They fear man more than they fear God. "Please don't leave my church and I won't stop you from looking ridiculous." Hellbound!
well prasie him, truthfully i really dont care what he did. he's human just like i am , he errors just like the next person do, lets stop judging one another, and let us learn to hold each other up in prayer.
This is unreal. I was put out of the church because I wouldn't tolerate the pastor having a extra martial affair and the good doctor reverend is welcomed with opened arms. We will all be surprise on judgement day.
You are absolutely right, "Tymere1979". Sometimes as Christians we need to be reminded of God's word as sometimes we get caught up in worldly views. Thanks for this! Be Blessed! :)
fnihp, your response was amazing. It took me a couple of weeks to absorb the humility of it. Your rsponse ministered to me and I can only pray that I am as receptive to correction. I am not always right. GOD bless you too, I am excited about your future in christ...
I wish that they wold come back on the Word Network. Man they had the best church going. i could really feel the annoiting in their services. i pray they come back on,
God has been so good it would take me a few Sundays to praize him too!!! Y'all betta have a footwork festival...e ba ba! Auntee blessd me wit her dance!!!
y is she the only one on the pulpit without a rbe on and that dress tight
ElderRivers 4 days ago
is this the church where Ricky Dillard had a recording at
Jon316able 2 months ago
Don't judge her.. She started a war cry up in there by herself. I love this praise. I would've came out my wig and shoes. Don't stop my praise
30myisha 7 months ago
@30myisha I approve this response, lol.
matthew5and9 7 months ago
Are ther're still P A W ?
mrtheoneandonly83 8 months ago
YOU JUST CAN'T STOP THE SPIRIT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PREACH...
YOU CAN STILL HEAR SOME OF THE PPL STILL SHOUTING PRAISES....
AND THE WOMAN @ 2:47 ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN WAS STILL FEELING THE SPIRIT THAT SHE FELL OUT!..THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN BOUT! :D
maryhadalittlelamb25 8 months ago
I understand what some of you are saying about the sister's clothes.. In any church, not just holiness, pentecostal, or apostolic, if you are in the pulpit or have a position in the church, then you should dress modest, with not too short or tight clothing.. You have to understand that people are always watching you, and it can be a distraction from getting the word.. They can get caught up in looking at the persons's body and clothing, that they dont recieve the word.. Not just this her either
walkerma11 9 months ago
it's ridiculous that she is up there with those tight clothes on...smh
ManChildMin1 9 months ago
The musicians was getting it
TheThestarplayer 11 months ago
-that tambourine player was killin it !
iDrewski 1 year ago
OMG I love seeing everyone in that white..not just any white, PURE white hallejuah
chucktownboi843 1 year ago
What is the mailing address to this church
HolyVisitation 1 year ago
There is nothing wrong with what the lady had on. Thats was wrong with so called church folks no they always looking at the out side and not whats on the inside. If Yolanda Adams had on the same dress nothing would be said only because she has a little weigh its a problem. Just worry about your wardrobe and then you won't have time to worry about others.
marcustank 1 year ago 2
WOW......that pastors wife was getting it! For those attacking her...STOP allowing the enemy to use you! None of us are in a position to JUDGE her clothes, her praise, her body shape.....NOTHING! Just praise God for yourself and allow her to do the same.
rydaniel2004 1 year ago
What is the name of the pulpit attendant at 0:28? I saw her at convention and have seen her before.... She seriously has a different hat of the same style for EVERY outfit!!! Amazing!
Pawboi85 1 year ago
@Pawboi85 That is Dr.Web The PAW official head nurse
BrotherHaydenJackson 1 year ago
@Serilous this is an apostolic church i was raised & breed it...i know because of the annoiting of the holyghost..your pety man made traditions will do more harm than good to not just the apostolic relegion but 1st & formost to the kingdom of GOD!
kpitdownlo55 1 year ago
would you shallow santified holy of the most holy ppl learn GOD for yourself and stop letting traditions ans silly beliefs and opinions block heaven and stop spewing your ignorants on other ppl running GODS ppl away if you wanna be sharp as a tack when you go to church..cool if you wanna wear a sweat suit cool just go th the churchhouse!
kpitdownlo55 1 year ago
@kpitdownlo55, NOW U SAID DAT!!!!!!
optimistic719 1 year ago
All white means purity! And it's used during commuion!
Bishop11009 1 year ago
Hiya!!! I feel a Dance dats crawling up my leg and i got to Get out the Apostolic way!!! Glory!!!
DatGodChild 1 year ago 2
I visited this church about five years ago when I was in Chi-town. I love this church. The Spirit of the Lord was in that place!!!!!
latea1 1 year ago
If I was there, I would have shouted a hole in the floor because if I can feel the Spirit watching the video, being there would have been too much!!!!
loionodosoeoy 1 year ago
Thats right its not clothes and women can't help that somtimes even if they wore big dresses it would not stop what they have from showing, Maybe thats just a weekness you have when you see women with big butts. And you not perfect from the start with.
luckilexi 1 year ago
praise him TJ MICHELLE!
sangboi79 1 year ago
Go 'head!!!
gwoslm 1 year ago
God could use this video to touch somebody heart. I just think its ashame if they scroll down and read such negative comments. Oh that men should praise the Lord.
rocslocs 1 year ago
Biblical holiness means complete submission to his will and direction for our lives. This requires making Jesus Lord and Savior, from the inside out. The problem is that we call Jesus Savior and Lord but we are not truly willing to accept the Lord part. Making Jesus Lord over every aspect of our lives, from our careers and our families to even the way we dress. I'm not a Christian that believes women can't wear pants, but we shouldn't be wearing tight and revealing clothes.
scohazz7174 1 year ago 2
THATS HOW HOLINESS PPL PRAISE THE LORD.......... THANKYOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!!!!!!!
JAZZYJAYj89 1 year ago
I love the apostolic anointing. It resides heavy in the church. But on a side note, the first woman who was shouting without the white on had the ultimate big-butt shout lmbo
YACONISMITH 1 year ago 2
Praise him
kodman1234 1 year ago
man that organist and drummer killing it!
JayDrummerBoy 1 year ago
There are people who complain about the way real sancified people dress and yet send their children to shcool in a uniform and never say a word. When a person goes into the Arm Forces the first thing they do is take away your idenity and give you theirs. They cut your hair give you a uniform and a number to identify you. Even when you're of base you still have to look and act like a soldier. What's the problem?
pastorbobmack 1 year ago
Actually its both...When man Kind in the beginning was at their peek of holiness before sinning they were naked. God even posed the question "who told you that your naked" How did they know to go get leaves and cover themselves? SO i say that to say this. Ppl say that clothes has nothing to do with relationship. But its a fact, if your not willing to give up a carnal way of dressing it truly shows how close you are to God. Do not mistake Gods spirit falling on u in a service for relationship!!
apostolic1617 1 year ago
@littlemonkey1985 some people can dance that but the most important thing is dance the way you want o because he blesses you with his love
will27410 1 year ago
That's how churchin is suppose to be..
MrCogicson1 1 year ago
This is awesome cuz there are MEN praising God!!!!!!!!!
rp4jesus 2 years ago
@rp4jesus OK AND MEN HAVE A HARD TIME DOING THAT WELL PRAISE HIM MEN
Jerome9055 1 year ago
very nice. bless you all
will27410 2 years ago
i need all the christian freinds i can get please thank you
erichathy222 2 years ago
Now this is how a communion service should be
hlove3 2 years ago 2
Holiness is first and foremost a matter of the Heart. You taking on the very nature of God Himself for He is a Holy God. Holiness is seperation from worldly things which include the way we live, the way we talk, walk, and yes even the way we dress. If Holiness is on the inside ..you arent going to want to dress like, talk, like, or be like the world.
cloventongues85 2 years ago 24
@cloventongues85 Hey glorrry when you have the Holy Ghost on the inside it will teach you how to dress live walk just like you say it will guide you if only we would listen and do as it tells us to
teejohnson74 1 year ago
@cloventongues85 .....did you miss the e-mail this is 2010 LOL!
kpitdownlo55 1 year ago
@cloventongues85 VERY TRUE AND THATS WAT REAL APOSTOLIC IS ABOUT
Jerome9055 11 months ago
@cloventongues85 Amen. HE said to be ye Holy just as HE is Holy. People tend to disregard what Holiness mean or they just ignorant to it or just want to do and live the way they want to live but you are so correct it has a lot to do with our attire because we are representing GOD. I know that some dont change over night and I dont sit in judgement of any one...if they are real with GOD it will be pressed upon them to change their attire but in due time.
tot4god 11 months ago
You All Better Praise Him!!! I Love IT
godlydiva6 2 years ago 2
only sheep need a shepard
brentonwhite3 2 years ago
Praise the Lord for Apostolic!!!! Hoilness is right!!!!
Jagaed 2 years ago 3
I'm one who will stand by the word of God that says "for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart."It's the heart God wants people the heart.Everything else will fade away.
athorpe630 2 years ago 2
this was a sunday morning. come as you are refers to your heart and mindset not your attire. morgan park has high standards. and just like if ur church posted a short video we wld not b able to make a full assesment of what u believe in or what ur rules of standard are.
CHASECOM3 2 years ago
@dmoore76- what church do u go to. y dont yall have videos posted on youtube. is ur only concern that this woman is thick and she mite distract sm1. the truth is it dont really matter what a woman wears u can find smthing attractive about her. her jiggling is her praising God. did u expect her to have a cute shout! lol..bishop e is 1 of few holiness preachers left. since she is a pastor she probly put a robe on at her church to preach. so she dint have to wear a robe to attend the svc.
CHASECOM3 2 years ago
Go head and Praise him Morgan Park!!!
moneygreen3 2 years ago
That sister that is kutin a step when the video first start make you want to get up and SHOUT u better Praise Him My Sister !!!!!!!!!!!!!
maurize257 2 years ago
Ok i understand what Hollines is but i will say u can look the part . act the part, But i will say this, TRADITION LEAVES ROOM FOR SIN! No i don't approve of all the things that have happened but if you read the word there is nothing we can do about it. We need to stop with all this RELIGIOUS CRAP. JESUS said the live the like him it had nothing to do with tradition. We need to follow what JESUS said and leave man out of it
JStunner06 2 years ago
Love the way the organ sounds.
Mwbelthrop 2 years ago
JESUS >>>JESUS>>>JESUS...
dre06120 2 years ago
I been to that church before!
cjcalled 2 years ago
there was nothing worng with what that woman was wearing... she just a thick lady..the dress covered her entire body...what you want her to wear a sheet ?
i guess some churches still keep people in bondage... next people gonna be talking about people with open toe shoes and makeup on...
markechio 2 years ago
I didn't see anything wrong with what she had on, it covered her body it was up to you to notice anything that protruded but she just thick some dresses hug woman and there is nothing wrong with it, just as some men where the water high pants, lol.
holyandannointed 2 years ago
to tell you the truth is going on too much in the apostolic church...there was a time when we believed holiness was right..HOLINESS IS STILL RIGHT...my church till this dont wear jewelry, no makeup, women dont wear pants, women dont cut their...and we are over 300 members strong!
ApostolicKen 2 years ago
AMEN im not apostolic and Church of God in Christ and my church is the same way..the church is changing for the worst but ALL have not given up on holiness! God still has some witnesses! and the world and maybeline is not who we are to look like and act like but holiness become the house of God forever!
holinessman 2 years ago
bet there are plenty of women who wear skirts, wear jewelry, dont put on makeup, dont cut their hair who be fornicating. That doesnt matter. Holiness is doing what Gods commands Ten Command. People thing that women who does are holy and can just check those criterias thus the are holy. unfortunely, my church believes this, yet peps still be acting a fool. People need to really start asking God for forgiveness and stop living double lifeTheres plenty of non-jewelry adorned people going to Hell.
dragonbla2007 2 years ago 3
300+
ApostolicKen 2 years ago
HOLINESS IS THE ONLY WAY.... but understand that holiness is a lifestyle... know how to decipher whats gods rules from mans rules... god didnt condemn men or women from looking good. those old school rules were put in place in churches to make the women less attractive to the men of the chruch so the men wouldnt sin.... thats not the way of god but of men.... i been to thoese churches and their official hairstyle is a jerry curl or french roll... i grew up in the olschool church..
markechio 2 years ago
Oh..wow brother get back to Holiness Gods standards!
holinessman 2 years ago
lol PREACH!!!!!!
i agree
COGICbabypook 2 years ago
Yall church is really getting it and it don't matter what you wear. As long as you are giving gorly to the one above God.
Livin4Christ15 2 years ago
This chirch is literally down the street from my house. I had no idea they churched like THAT...
I might need to check them out one Sunday.
TheChiteach 2 years ago
u betta praise dats a dammm shame ppl shouldnt judge other ppl at all who r u nd u dont knw wat she is goin threw she got hers so u betta get yours
bodiak15 2 years ago
People, people, people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLINESS is a lifestyle not clothes.
matthew5and9 2 years ago 18
and that lifestyle will dictate HOW u dress. point blank.
dmoore76 2 years ago
But Anyways they was praising God!!!! I love giving God the praise while I STILL can hey!!! Lord I'm thankful for your new mercies everyday and for keeping when I was doing wrong and for letting me know that there is deliverance and forgiveness we need to seek and hold on to it!
lilwilly07 2 years ago
I'm just saying that we need to stop judging and looking down on people because of their outward appearance. Maybe that lady has a hard time shopping for clothes that fits her right... who know lol
NLYMOakGrove 2 years ago
I mean she's a thick woman what do he expect and who said her attire was a distraction to anyone? She was covered up not showing skin her clothes just fits her because she's thick. This just shows how people confuse pettiness with rigtheousness, dmoore76 like the rest of us needs to worry about our personal salvation and not some else's clothes, trust me when you get to KNOW Christ he will show YOU to YOURSELF and you won't be quick to judge or "comment" on people in church!!!
lilwilly07 2 years ago
@lilwilly07
They don't make appropriate clothing for thick women in chicago? Since she knew she would stand before the ppl, one would think she would do an examination b4 she left the house. I KNOW the Lord and what He stands for. Your outward appearance is not a petty issue because it is addressed in scripture. I know u don't like that. As far as unbelievers coming as they are, that is a seperate issue. We are talking about this woman(who is a pastor) wearing a form fitting dress in the
dmoore76 2 years ago
pulpit and bouncing around with all her business jiggling everywhere. I say it once,twice,three times.....Holiness is still right.
dmoore76 2 years ago
you right thats wat run ppl out da church they could be the ugliest non dressin bomb and no jesus more than you can think of thank you 4 makin this comment b blessed
ytjfogbfnin 2 years ago
No wonder sinners don't want to come into our churches today... because "church" people will just be looking them up and down because of their dress choice. We need to accept people and love them AS THEY ARE. I don't care how they dress. If they have torn up jeans and a ripped up shirt, at least their coming into the house of God. That's along with church people too. People has different styles and preferences.
NLYMOakGrove 2 years ago
HOLINESS IS RIGHT! They come as they are first then when they are taught modesty then they dress right! i still believe in the old school apostolic dress code!
ApostolicKen 2 years ago
Since you all still trippin about people's attire you all claim holiness this and holiness that, then explain why MOST of HOLINESS churches have GAY ministers of music and GAY Pastors and Ministers whether its closet or not its WRONG, and no one is picking and choosing what to follow out of the Bible and niether one of you are HOLY so get of here you both are SINNERS, and you two ARE sinning because you are totally BACKBITING. Typical Pharisees and Saducees!!! not surprised at ALL!
lilwilly07 2 years ago
You sound silly. I can't say MOST holiness churches are filled with any particular group of people because I have not visited/fellowshipped with MOST of the holiness churches in existence. That is an ignorant statement. That's like someone saying that MOST blacks are this or MOST whites are this......totally irresponsible statement. If someone is engaging in homosexual activity, it is wrong according to the Bible and should be addressed. We are looking at this particular video and commenting on
dmoore76 2 years ago
the inappropriate attire of someone(a pastor I might add) that was allowed to stand before the ppl of God and ultimately became a distraction. I would think that a pastor would look in the mirror and discern that her attire could cause someone to stumble. You and I are both sick. I am sick of folk who get offended by righteousness. I want folk to see Jesus. There are unsaved folk that tune into youtube and it can be used as a vehicle to introduce Christ. Let's get back to holiness.
dmoore76 2 years ago
@dmoore76
Seems like nobody was distracted but you. When i see this clip all i see is a thick woman. I believe if the dress was a different color it would've looked a little better on her. I've seen much worst in churches where women actually show skin. This woman was fully dressed. It was a little tight but she's a thick woman. The service was HOT! I know cuz i was there. Get your house in order first.
muzicdt 2 years ago
My house is in order. There is a standard is God's house. Take inventory b4 u leave the house, especially if u are going to stand behind the sacred desk.
dmoore76 2 years ago
Here I go again......When you see that woman in the pulpit, inappropriately dressed for church, let alone the pulpit, it clearly explains why Paul told Timothy to tell the women to dress in MODEST apparel. Now before she left home, the Holy Ghost should have told her that she was revealing too much. And what the heck is she doing in the pulpit anyway??? OUT OF ORDER!!!
bobcatxyz 2 years ago
Apparently it not too out of order the bishop aint sast her down yet.
byac06 2 years ago
It's funny how a lot of so called "christians" are quick to point out things in church instead of keeping their mind stayed on Jesus and in the mode of worship, like the word of God says "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," but you all want to talk about somebody's attire lets look at ourselves and salvation before we put time in pettiness!
lilwilly07 2 years ago
Talkin religion huh? I hate that. Women wearing pants thing... really... I mean come on. Yeah I'm pentecostal, but that's taking it too far. If women wearing pants is arrousing to you, you need to check YOUR own heart instead judging and telling people what they should and should not be doing.
NLYMOakGrove 2 years ago
Please stop with the "check your heart" routine. There is a standard of holiness. The Bible speaks of avoiding anything that may cause your brother to stumble. The problem with a lot of "christians" is that we pick and choose what we want to believe. The Bible is not a buffet in which you can pick and choose what you want. You have to eat the WHOLE book. Pray for Pastor E. Just because you went through a season does not mean that you lower the standard in order to keep the people happy.
dmoore76 2 years ago
From the way some of you all are talking, I would think your churches are perfect. You cannot try to attack my Bishop based off one pastor in one video. Bishop does believe holiness is still right and he preaches it every sunday. You do not go to our church so you don't what he teaches or preaches. How are you going to make a judgement on one video? You should be praying for all pastors and churches because none are perfect, including yours. Have a blessed day.
songmaster18 2 years ago 4
Don't get sensitive. I don't want to go to your church. The fact is that this woman was more of a distraction than anything else and she should of taken an inventory before she left home. There is still a standard in God's house. Point blank. I'm sure there are plenty of churches that fall short(including mine) but they aren't posted on youtube. Sorry!!!!! It is what it is.
dmoore76 2 years ago
Well you should have said most of what you just said in the first place and this was not posted by someone from our church, but I don't like arguing on youtube, so God bless you.
songmaster18 2 years ago
You just sound very ignorant, judging from a 3 minute clip online. Same stuff that happened with Rev. Wright during the Obama campaign.
cagyeman 2 years ago
I am far from ignorant. This isn't a preachment and therefore cannot be taken out of context. This woman(who is a pastor by the way) is in the pulpit with a form fitting dress dancing around with all her business jiggling in front of the congregation. Someone should have covered her up. Everyone is inthe church is not saved and this woman could have hindered someone's deliverance. I'm old school and they taught us correctly.
dmoore76 2 years ago
Exactly "old school". Things like that are the reason people don't wanna join churches today. These sold called "sanctified believers" are so caught up in "religious beliefs" , rules, and old school ways, that they push away potential new saints. Beating people over the head with excess rules and regulations is not what is important. I doubt if Jesus were still walking around in physical form today, I doubt he'd waste his time Judging people like this because of ridiculousness standards
cagyeman 2 years ago
Oh please. The standard is never let down to appease people. People will never truly get delivered if they see the same thing in the church that they see in the world. Rules have existed since the beginning of time. The anarchy we see in the church today is a result of a setting aside of regulations. These so called old school rules never killed anyone. In fact, people had a greater respect for the church. Now we allow secular artists to have concerts in our church. We no longer see a need
dmoore76 2 years ago
sunday school. You can't tell the difference between a believer and a non believer. And there is a difference. The Bible says to make a difference between clean and unclean. You can have all this new age stuff and I'm in my ealry 30's. Folks that grew up in true holiness know what I am talking about. Those old mothers would mentor the young women. Those old deacons and elders would talk to the young men and you valued their advice.
dmoore76 2 years ago
Amen and i agree im a young minister in a holiness/pentecostal church and you are telling the truth when the church get back to being the church and stop trying to be hollywood and worldy then we will get the Holyghost power back! the world is not our mentor nor example nor guider the HOLYGHOST is! lets get back to HOLINESS!!! GODS standards
holinessman 2 years ago
i see that ur young, holiness has nothing to do with the clothes that someone has on their backs. but its a lifestyle. the banner that your waiving is a standerd that men set back in the day.. just cuz women arent wearing dresses down to the for and a bun hair style doesnt meain they arnt saved or holy... the bible tell u what holiness is so whats the confusion
markechio 2 years ago
haha, ok
cagyeman 2 years ago
@songmaster18 This is not apostolic! This is a regular ole church. TRUE apostolic churches follow the teachings of the bible! the sisters are wearing jewelry and no hats!!! Apostolic???? PLEASE!
serilousxl 1 year ago
@serilousxl idk who told you this haha your very wrong sir. the hat and jewelry would be standards not beliefs
mandingolove 1 year ago
@serilousxl Is there some LOVE up under all of those hats?? I believe Jesus would speak to many of you in the same way that he spoke to the Pharises... Plenty of "TRUE" Apostolics will still find themselves in hell..."HATS" "MAKE-UP-LESS" AND ALL...smh......
bbrianblair 8 months ago
When this video first came on, some missionaries should have run up into that pulpit and wrapped a bed sheet around that big behind. Ppl need to recognize what they are wearing to God's house. SMH
dmoore76 2 years ago
you,re right we holiness saint s should not ware anything that should attack attention including woman wareing pants.
TheFirecogicuk 2 years ago
@ dmoore76 ... why was I thinking the SAME thing!
treblecl8f 2 years ago
Dmoore76...........AMEN! 100% right! No respect for God's house anymore, and they think God is gonna respect theirs. NOT. In my opinion, after all "Bishop E" has gone through, he should be more determine to hold up right standards in the church. I mean are they affraid to offend the people, but not afraid to offend God??? The answer to my question is YES. They fear man more than they fear God. "Please don't leave my church and I won't stop you from looking ridiculous." Hellbound!
bobcatxyz 2 years ago
@bobcatxyz thts all bull.....LIKE I SAID GOD MADE HER IN HIS IMAGE DNT JUDGE PEOPLE.......
175sanctified 1 year ago
MY GODD!!
ljbrooks91 2 years ago 2
Ellis, Trotter, and Campbell, pastor some PRAISIN" churches in Chicago!!
Orbot 2 years ago
GET IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!! That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!
Orbot 2 years ago
That vibrato on that organ is SICK !
FULLTIMEPREACHER 2 years ago
I Love APC of Morgan Park!!!!!! Bishop E, cuz I've been set free!
dayounglevite 2 years ago
That girl around 3:00 was getting hers! She got it so good til she passed out. LOL! These folks just shoutin up a storm.
yungkeyz 2 years ago
well prasie him, truthfully i really dont care what he did. he's human just like i am , he errors just like the next person do, lets stop judging one another, and let us learn to hold each other up in prayer.
msverchele 2 years ago
Thank you, I'm so sick of people and their messiness in church and think that their holy!!!!
lilwilly07 2 years ago
YAW BETTA WORK IT OUT!!
ProphetStubbsJr 2 years ago
OH MY GOSH! I cant believe the sains are gossipping lke this... well thank GOD for his forgiveness....
Tymere1979 2 years ago
He didn't steal money from the church
Nzingha2003 2 years ago
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fnihp30 2 years ago
i would like to know where is this church in chicago?
ddk147 2 years ago
Yall must realy love ya paster vause if it was me i would have left dat church. for him takeing gods money for himself thats wroung
serasn 2 years ago
Since God gave u a 2nd chance y not give him else a 2 chance it just goes to show how quick people r to forget wat God did for them
robbebless 2 years ago
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fnihp30 2 years ago
This is unreal. I was put out of the church because I wouldn't tolerate the pastor having a extra martial affair and the good doctor reverend is welcomed with opened arms. We will all be surprise on judgement day.
toomanytoforget 2 years ago
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Tymere1979 2 years ago
If you are supposed to be saved and you do wrong and don't repent, you will be judged according to your works...Read your Bible.... Be Blessed!
fnihp30 2 years ago
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Tymere1979 2 years ago 2
You are absolutely right, "Tymere1979". Sometimes as Christians we need to be reminded of God's word as sometimes we get caught up in worldly views. Thanks for this! Be Blessed! :)
fnihp30 2 years ago
fnihp, your response was amazing. It took me a couple of weeks to absorb the humility of it. Your rsponse ministered to me and I can only pray that I am as receptive to correction. I am not always right. GOD bless you too, I am excited about your future in christ...
Thanks for being a real testimony!
Tymere1979 2 years ago
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fnihp30 2 years ago
u betta dance
kangofaug706 2 years ago
i love that the saints still shout till they fall out! 3:01....
terrayl 2 years ago
u shldv seen how she was laid out on the floor. she look like a chalk line on murder scene!!! lol..
CHASECOM3 2 years ago
Is that Chris Miskel on drums
BlairEntertainment 2 years ago
I wish that they wold come back on the Word Network. Man they had the best church going. i could really feel the annoiting in their services. i pray they come back on,
Bradleigh8 2 years ago
I see people saying they welcome the Bishop back, exactly where did he go, if you don't mind me asking?
Carltonjhill 2 years ago
He was in jail for a few years for stealing money from the church.....
fnihp30 2 years ago
he was locked up for a couple of years for stealing money from his church
serasn 2 years ago
Ya'll Betta Praise Him! & No shoes sista cut that Step!!
MissElise19 2 years ago 2
all right acp of morgan park
AirTmax14 2 years ago
man im some glad tHAT THE BISHOP IS BACK
msverchele 2 years ago
Alright Now Apostolic Church!!!!!! I'm dancing with'ya
luvcooley 2 years ago
When did he come back??
ELIPOUL 2 years ago
they welcomed Bishop Ellis home in style! lol! Apostolic Style!
apostolic660 2 years ago
God has been so good it would take me a few Sundays to praize him too!!! Y'all betta have a footwork festival...e ba ba! Auntee blessd me wit her dance!!!
Daunivan 2 years ago
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Daunivan 2 years ago
Sista was sho nuff' looking fierce up on dat pulpit and cutting a step wit no shoes on; y'all betta get it. Yes sur.
rmbb10 2 years ago 4