He was killed by the mob in collaboration with rogue elements of the CIA. Dont forget that the mob put JFK in power (vote rigging, blackmaile etc) and were expecting to reap thier rewards only for his attorney general brother to screw them up. And rogue elements of CIA were upset when the government let them down in the bay of pigs.
It was a conspiracy. Lee Harvey Oswald was definitely not the one who killed Kennedy. The bullet came from the front (grassy knoll) and not from the book warehouse. I am amazed that US citizens still don't ask for the truth.
Thats true about Oswald, he went to sniper's school and failed, this is a fact! I don't believe he was alone, and not only was the US. Governemt wanted to end his rain, same with the russian mob and american maffia. He had to many enemies.
But what proof is there that these other factions actually did the job? Oswald still had enough training to make these shots, which were not very far away. Even if he wasn't a Sniper type shooter, that would not take away from his ability to do the deed. After all, if this was a conspiracy, why would you employ such a loser to do it? He only made 1 of 3, since 2 were off or missed the target completely. This thing happened only one way, and it didn't involve a magic bullet.
Are you kidding?! 2-3 didn't miss completely!! Learn the fact man before you make comments like that and look like a fool. One bullet hit JFK in the neck and then hit the passanger in front the governer. 2 of the 3 hit JFK. Get the facts next time!
I said 1 of 3 shots was on target and I stand by that statement. Yes, the second "magic" bullet shot did strike, but was clearly not on target. If you are going to try to assassinate a person of this magnitude, having only a limited amount of shots, you don't waste it by hitting him in the back. It is waste ammunition, and you have no guaranty that you make another shot before your snipers nest is spotted and fire is returned. You go for the kill, you do not try to wound.
Check you facts. Because he made very good marks as a sharpshooter. I would be happy to have the marks he made, and I pride myself on having a pretty good shot. He may not have been a Sniper, but you didn't have to be in this case. Only 1 shot was on target.
this "sub par marksman" stuff is pretty funny. when he shot for the record in the Marines Oswald made sharpshooter and was considered an above average shot even for a Marine.
kennedy was not shot from oswald... i believe oswald missed his shot and the shot that had killed the president was from the grassy knoll. he was def shot from the front and tht could only happen if someone at the grassy knoll had shot. and do u realize the goverment is trying to cover everything up? yea cuz they dont want us to kno the truth....
The driver kept a slow pace until he knew JFK was dead. Then, once the brain matter was spraying all over, & he could be certain JFK was dead, he sped off.
yeah it does, look at the cover for Carcass's album, Wake Up And Smell The Carcass, the cover is of one his autopsy photos, brains and crap sticking out, lol
JFK was shot by the Mafia, CIA and the russians tried but missed and hit the curb. Castro killed his brother and as for oswald well the Mafia hit him to keep his mouth shut.
Oswald may have been there, he may have fired some shots, he may be framed, he is a good/bad marksman...I have no idea. Unless you are blind, you can clearly see that the last shot came from the front and to his right.
I think that uor own goverment did it,because J was runing a good administrtion during his power,I don't know lets ask the vice president that gain the power and invated vietnam short after ,I think he hade to do something with it!
I don't think it was conspiracy, at least to the extent most people say, but how can you say Oswald was a sub-par marksman when he was a sharpshooter who was consistently accurate in the Marines? You guys have been watching Oliver Stone too much. And he fired 3 shots in barely over 8 seconds, which is entirely possible. But what do I know? Then again, does anybody?
I don't think it was conspiracy, at least to the extent most people say, but how can you say Oswald was a sub-par marksman when he was a sharpshooter who was consistently accurate in the Marines? You guys have been watching Oliver Stone too much. And he fired 3 shots in barely over 8 seconds, which is entirely possible. But what do I know? Then again, does anybody?
The Warren Commission's findings: 1 gunmen - 1 bullet, is comical. This was tri-angulated crossfire, set up by very high-ranking govt officials with the power to COVER IT UP. The Warren Commission was nothing but a facade and part of the cover-up.
Taken out by 3 gunmen under orders from Bush snr(head of CIA in 63) and LB johnson, both under orders from Meyer Lansky (very powerful mob boss).To take vast opium from vietnam and flood the states etc to make trillions and keep every body stoned and oblivious. Similar to our current presidents grandad, who financed hitlers nazis along with rokerfella/rothchilds etc ,again for trillions from the jews.Now they have Afghanistan for more opium.Evil+ bush/blair and queen of england.FreeMasons!
It is impossible Oswald's rifle, the Mannlicher-Carcano,to be fired more than once in less than 2.3 seconds.According to some interpretations of the Zapruder film, Governor Connally appears to react to being shot 1.7 seconds after Kennedy, therefore they must have been hit by 2 separate shots fired in more rapid succession than would have been possible for Oswald's Cacarno. Top rifle experts were incapable of making the rifle fire two shots in the 2.3-second timeframe
Former US Marine snipers, Craig Roberts, and Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, both said it could not be done as described by the FBI.
"Let me tell you what we did," Hathcock said. "We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target the obstacles, everything. I don't know how many times we tried it, but we couldn't duplicate what the WC said Oswald did.Now if I can't do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range do it?"
Wow I have not seen this since grammer school!! I just watched it over and over..slow played and everything..Doesn't it look like the guy in front of JFK in the passenger seat pulled something from over the seat and tuck it under his coat right as JFK puts his hands to his mouth? And then Jackie is looking at him the whole time..
What is the flash coming from one o'clock on the video at frame 313? If it is the flash of a bullet, it couldn't have come from the book depository as that was at 10 o'clock to the frame. Any ideas?
It would be nice to have that type of proof but it just couldn't happen. A bullet is going way to fast to show up on anything other than extreme slow-mo cameras.
The only bullets ever to have been caught on regular film are tracer rounds. It's too small to reflect enough light onto the film at the speed its moving. Even a tracer round would look like a perfectly straight tiny scratch on this old film. If it showed up at all.
I don't see the streak you are talking about. I see lots of streaks in every frame through out the video. But Its not a bullet. they just don't show up sorry. I did notice that between 312 and 314 their is undeniable forward movement of his head.
Oswald fired the first shot fr the book bldg, yet there were 2-3 others ready to fire in "disguise" so no one would suspect: policeman, a bum (in those days when people more trusting). Oswald could have been in it for the money &/or threatened by the mob who didnt want JFK interfering w/their business, etc. Not only Oswald were guilty but Oswald got caught. A shame.
Former US Marine snipers, Craig Roberts, and Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, both said it could not be done as described by the FBI.
"Let me tell you what we did," Hathcock said. "We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target the obstacles, everything. I don't know how many times we tried it, but we couldn't duplicate what the WC said Oswald did.Now if I can't do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range do it?"
It is impossible Oswald's rifle, the Mannlicher-Carcano,to be fired more than once in less than 2.3 seconds.According to some interpretations of the Zapruder film, Governor Connally appears to react to being shot 1.7 seconds after Kennedy, therefore they must have been hit by 2 separate shots fired in more rapid succession than would have been possible for Oswald's Cacarno. Top rifle experts were incapable of making the rifle fire two shots in the 2.3-second timeframe
For all the same reasons Tim McVey protested violently. Just a common sense guess. And $180 was equal to over an thousand now, so maybe it was his get away cash. Again thats a common sense guess.
If you would have killed the president of the united states and you have $180 cash at your house, would you get it and get the hell out of the state? or would you try to draw attention by not paying a tickit at a movie theater?
So he had a gun that fired the kind of bullets that killed JFK, He was exremely anti capitalist and worked temporarily at the book depository that the bullets could have come from. He also dissapeared from work that day and might have shot a cop. That much you will agree with?
Oswald had a Mannlicher-Carcano right? 3 law enforcement officers a rifle and said it was a 7.65mm Mauser. There is a document of it where you can read it. plus if he fired 3 shots 1 hit a bystander 2 hit JFK/JC 3 hit JFK, there is a picture were you can see a bullet mark on the grass with the TSBD on the background. And i think that could not have come from the shot that missed.
The extemely popular Mauser would look a lot like the much less popular Carcano. Its nearly identical. And the official reason he missed by so much was that he hit a tree branch. The fact that you cant even see the road from the 6th floor 40 years later because of those trees backs this up.
The bullet hit the curb on the other side of Dealey Plaza, and the crack in the windshield, wich of the ''3'' bullets should that be? even if you believe the WC, i think we will never ever know what really happend.
My guess would be the third shot went thru the wind shield after going through JFKs head. Oswald thought up and did it alone. Why is that so hard to swallow? Nothing about it was complicated.
Me too.I shot a magpie at 250ft with a lousy air rifle,imagine what a high powered rifle is capable of, personally i think both kennedys were doomed once the old man made a deal with sam giancana.
The crack was in the windshield before the headshot(see the Altgens photo of the limo) and don't forget the security sucked ass, most Secret Service agent were getting drunk the night before(so did agent Hill who jumped on the car) most windows in the TSBD were open, if they had done there job, none of those windows would have been open.
I should stop there but, he was in a convertable on a seat made to make him taller than the other passengers. He was on display like always, like all the other politicians of his time.
The head shot appears quite clearly from behind with the exit wound, the part you see, being more towards the front. Anyone who has ever fired a rifle knows the entrance hole is small and the exit wound is the big hole.
JFK assassination is/was the biggest conspiracy of the 20th century, likewise, 9/11 is proving to be the biggest of the 21st century...
Surely no one believes the driver fired the second hit? He got a headshot, driving, shooting without turning his head, and with a weapon which didn't cause any flashes or smoke. Conspiracy theories can be interesting, and there are plenty of interesting theories concerning the JFK assassination, but the driver as the assassin? That's just absurd.
Surely no one believes the driver fired the second hit? He got a headshot, driving, shooting without turning his head, and with a weapon which didn't cause any flashes or smoke. Conspiracy theories can be interesting, and there are plenty of interesting theories concerning the JFK assassination, but the driver as the assassin? That's just absurd. (500 characters my ass)
I doubt she thought at the time, "I should collect the fragments" even if there were any big enough on the boot of the car. Possibly she touched a piece, but she wasn't diving for scraps, to quote Ellroy.
Next, there was only one shooter. What are the chances that two managed to hit him within seconds of each other from different locations, even if they knew the hit was going in? Extremely remote. The headshot came from the rear; not that I'm a expert on how the skull reacts from a direct hit from a rifle bullet, but I'm fairly sure that the exit wound is more severe than the entry wound.
She's jumping out of the back of the car for a reason. Not to escape from the driver, not to collect pieces of skull (lol? who thought that one up), not even to help the agent climb in. She's jumping out of the back to get the hell out of there, having just seen her husband's head come apart. All you conspiracy nuts seem to think people around would have acted calmly and precisely, but in reality she'd have been panicking and trying to get as far away as possible.
Actually if you get the cleaned up version of this (its on youtube somewhere) you can see a piece of skull on the back of the car, that she never actually collected, but went to get. People do histarical things. They later collected that piece for autopsy reasons.
okay some one help me...to me it looks like he grabs his throat, then his face gets..well you know what happend to his face. but what about his neck????
Wow this video proves the govt. flew those planes into the Twin Towers and didn't land on the moon cuz of the Illuminati. Wake up sheep! cant you see the light of the UFOs commin to get us. Skull and Bones and NASCAR and Texaco are all in on it. And Elvis too. They're like Zombies, AAAAAA!
Yeah, "that axis of evil" speach prety much told us all the plan for the next 50 years. "As so we don't get Osama'd again, we're going to arrest every dictator that hates us on war crimes and toss him back to his liberated peeps. Once he get's torn apart, we replace him with a dictator who likes starbucks."
or they thought.. HEy iraq has oil so lets kill 700 000 people!! and steal it and cover it up by directing all the attention against saddam even though we couldnt give a bigger shit about him or the iraqi people
you can see an initial movement of his head forward, fllowed by the recoiing backwards. Agree with 'e1mariem': "When the bullet strikes Kennedy in the BACK of the head, it fragments, causing the FRONT RIGHT portion of his head to come apart, and his head to flinch to the front. He then convulses back, making it APPEAR that he was hit from the front."
People don't go flying when they are shot, like in the movies. They proved it on Mythbusters. If this was the case, then why didn't he go flying forward when he was shot through the BACK, and the bullet exited the FRONT of his neck? When the bullet strikes Kennedy in the BACK of the head, it fragments, causing the FRONT RIGHT portion of his head to come apart, and his head to flinch to the front. He then convulses back, making it APPEAR that he was hit from the front.
Impossible. 'sigh' There is a windshield on the front of the limo. There was Kellerman in the front right seat. There is Connoly in middle row right, in front of JFK. Then JFK himself in 3rd row, behind Connoly. How the hell is a bullet suppose to get through the windshield, Kellerman, Connoly then hit JFK??
i know the facts. i guess you've never heard the magic bullet theory that explains how one bullet hit kennedy and left SEVERAL entrance and exit wounds in Connoly.
Are you on drugs? You said several bullets hit Connoly. Now you're saying several entrance and exit wounds. Only ONE bullet hit Connoly. See how easy this is?
Show me another example of this happening, not in an experiment but in reality. Let's interview soldiers that have experienced people getting shot in the head. I haven't seen this or heard anybody that has experienced combat say that the head goes back towards the shooter when they get shot in the head yet. I'm totally open to this debate. I just want the truth.
omg! look it up oswald did it and he killed a cop! the only reson they think there was 2 people becoz he shot with a tree in fround of his target so they think that there was 2 people there wasent. Oswald was a messed up man! and he was shot going to cort! so that proves he did it!
I was at Dealey Plaza today (as I have been for the last 5 years on Nov. 22nd straight) and when I talk to all the people that where actually witness that day, I am convinced it was only a lone gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald.
Can i ask something about that? i have never been to America but when you are at dealey plaza, wich position would you take to shoot? and how far is the Grassy Knoll from the X were JFK got killed?
He was hit with a dum dum bullet right front. That's why big damage going in. An Oswald bullet would leave small hole in, big hole out.2 shooters. Why would Oswald say he was a patsy, if he wanted to be remembered.
first of all....oswald could not be the shooter coz 3 bullets were shot in 5.6 seconds...u cant shoot that fast from old italian carabine rifle..even the FBI sniper tried it, impossible...especially at a moving target....And the other thing.I was in Dallas few years ago excatly 22nd of november....Texas oak tree or something at the side of elm street had enormous branhces and lots of leaves...So u have to be damn good
marksman to shoot at the moving target through the trees and firing 3 bullets in 5.6 seconds...imposible....JFK had a large exit wound at the back of his head....And his head went backwards...so it couldnt be oswald...and that son of a bitch arlen spector made a biggest lie presenting his magic bullet theory...its impossble, bullets cant turn!!!
I said earlier. I am a golfer.On a dare from a friend at a driving range I hit a shot with my 5wood at a skinny tree 200yrs away and hit the middle of the trunk dead on.He said it was not possible.Also I saw a test of a rifle shot into a swimming pool. The bullet hit the water and took a curving arc after impact.Bullet trajectories change when they impact a mass.
There is a bullet mark in Dealy Plaza on the concrete storm drain beside where JFK was assassinated. I seen it myself. It is a long ricochet mark. The same bullet fragmented and hit a bystander in the cheek under the bridge. It certainly does NOT line up with the book depository building. Forget about theories, this is a fact. Oswald couldn't have fired itBystanders took photos of this mark in the hours that followed the shooting. The mark was never removed.
What about the guy sitting on the passenger side (in front of JFK)? It looks like he got shot in the back, while JFK gets shot in the face. So there's gotta be more than one shooter.
My law and legal teacher was in the FBI and was in the marines. He said that him and the top snipers in the force tried shooting from where oswald was set up and they all missed. Oswald was paid off by the mafia and ruby was sent in to kill him and ruby was killed
Lee harvey was killed in the garage of a police department by jack ruby....the colombo family paid off the police cheif to let jack ruby to let him in the garage. After he killed oswald, ruby was killed and thats where it ended. If you knew the people standing on the grass hill that say they heardd or saw a second shooter. Those 15 people died within the next 5 years. Car crashes suicides and what not but mysterious deaths.
Excuse me, Lee Harvey was a expert shot with a rifle and could hit targets from 200 yards and more. The 3 shots he got off were from less than 300 feet. The conspiracy nuts just want to sell their books and dumbasses like you buy them.
Show me another example of this happening, not in an experiment but in reality. Let's interview soldiers that have experienced people getting shot in the head. I haven't seen this or heard anybody that has experienced combat say that the head goes back towards the shooter when they get shot in the head yet. I'm totally open to this debate. I just want the truth.
But I also remember the "what the thinker thinks the prover will prove" theory. Which is, if you are told enough times that x happened, even though it's obvious that y occured, you will believe x eventually happened because they will somehow prove it(by "demonstrations"). I can prove to anyone that I can walk on water given the right preparations.
you are extremely correct and brilliant...i have never heard of this but it is completely legitimate...tell people something, they will prove it, somehow
I remember first seeing this footage in the movie JFK. Right then, I believed that obviously there was at least one other shooter. But because of the slight forward movement of JFK right before his head "explodes" in the front, and because of the experiments I saw on watermellons and skulls, I began to question the dual shooter theory.
lho had to shoot thru trees and still get off 3acurate shots in an impossible time!!! come on guys y cnt u just admit there was another shooter!! tell me something that proves there wasn't. All evidence shows that there had 2have been more than 1. y didn't he shoot him when he had a clear line of fire!!
I believe that all Americans who lived to see this heinous act will never forget the morose feeling of sadness, panic, and loneliness in the pit of our stomach and heart on that fateful day and weeks that followed.
nicely put, your comment. Didn´t live at the time, but reading about the event today still leaves similar feelings. And also a tremendous indignation, I think. How the hell could it happen. And WHY.
Flagged for spoilers way to ruin it. dick.
darkone12491 2 years ago
omg at, 313 - the illuminati number = 7 !!!!!
ThaMakaveliProphecy 2 years ago
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insideMan1981 2 years ago
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insideMan1981 2 years ago
dunno why he dident take cover like get on the floor of the car when he got hit the first time
tubs6199 2 years ago
wudnt of really mattered he got hit in the throat he wuda easily bled to death or the bullet cuda punctered his air passage
DaSteakinator 2 years ago
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insideMan1981 2 years ago
uzas
Idrjonij 3 years ago
WTF.....was that his skin that tore off? omg..
82muchman 3 years ago
that was a chunk of his head... dam thats disturbing
DaSteakinator 2 years ago
it pisses so much that he wasn't covered like he was supposed to be after the first shot was fired and he held his chest. he was a good man
fu@k the shooter(s) and his descendants.
firestorm2000 3 years ago
He was killed by the mob in collaboration with rogue elements of the CIA. Dont forget that the mob put JFK in power (vote rigging, blackmaile etc) and were expecting to reap thier rewards only for his attorney general brother to screw them up. And rogue elements of CIA were upset when the government let them down in the bay of pigs.
sagat4 3 years ago
They needed a lefty for a driver for obvious reason.
Good casting for a public execution.
PYXXMALION 3 years ago
Classic crossfire - the driver just finished the job.
PYXXMALION 3 years ago
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perlaSberla 3 years ago
It was a conspiracy. Lee Harvey Oswald was definitely not the one who killed Kennedy. The bullet came from the front (grassy knoll) and not from the book warehouse. I am amazed that US citizens still don't ask for the truth.
Godslimetree 3 years ago
they have asked but they will always get the lies as with the roswell incident, 9/11 and other incidents . we are mere puppets !
IBETTERNOT4GETTHIS1 2 years ago
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Lee Oswald shot him..
PepsiPope 3 years ago
oswald was a government scapegoat
tiasarahellielorna 3 years ago 2
Abraham Zapruder`s film and Jacob Rubenstein - aka "Jack Ruby" slainer of Mr. Oswald. Go figure?
PYXXMALION 4 years ago
Driver shot him. Take a good look at frame "313".
PYXXMALION 4 years ago
Professional.
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you all know by now that the zapruder tape is a hoax right.
did you see that the vehicle did not stop?
but yet witness's say that the driver stoped after the shot ,before speeding away
simrocks 4 years ago
do you have any sources on the Zapruder tape being a hoax?
grantrummel 4 years ago
u know ur a dumb ass right?
BLaCkMeTaL98 4 years ago
No its not a hoax witness's are less reliable then film
lemurjim 3 years ago
omg that was so scary his poor wife had all his blood all over him..
phsycochick555 4 years ago
i could c his head like xsploed
jugerna 4 years ago
Thats true about Oswald, he went to sniper's school and failed, this is a fact! I don't believe he was alone, and not only was the US. Governemt wanted to end his rain, same with the russian mob and american maffia. He had to many enemies.
newm123 4 years ago
But what proof is there that these other factions actually did the job? Oswald still had enough training to make these shots, which were not very far away. Even if he wasn't a Sniper type shooter, that would not take away from his ability to do the deed. After all, if this was a conspiracy, why would you employ such a loser to do it? He only made 1 of 3, since 2 were off or missed the target completely. This thing happened only one way, and it didn't involve a magic bullet.
ishmaiden 4 years ago
Are you kidding?! 2-3 didn't miss completely!! Learn the fact man before you make comments like that and look like a fool. One bullet hit JFK in the neck and then hit the passanger in front the governer. 2 of the 3 hit JFK. Get the facts next time!
newm123 4 years ago
I said 1 of 3 shots was on target and I stand by that statement. Yes, the second "magic" bullet shot did strike, but was clearly not on target. If you are going to try to assassinate a person of this magnitude, having only a limited amount of shots, you don't waste it by hitting him in the back. It is waste ammunition, and you have no guaranty that you make another shot before your snipers nest is spotted and fire is returned. You go for the kill, you do not try to wound.
ishmaiden 4 years ago
Try seperate your opinions from the facts - Oswald was described as "below average with guns and any firearms".
PYXXMALION 4 years ago
Check you facts. Because he made very good marks as a sharpshooter. I would be happy to have the marks he made, and I pride myself on having a pretty good shot. He may not have been a Sniper, but you didn't have to be in this case. Only 1 shot was on target.
ishmaiden 4 years ago
this "sub par marksman" stuff is pretty funny. when he shot for the record in the Marines Oswald made sharpshooter and was considered an above average shot even for a Marine.
andrelebaron 4 years ago
kennedy was not shot from oswald... i believe oswald missed his shot and the shot that had killed the president was from the grassy knoll. he was def shot from the front and tht could only happen if someone at the grassy knoll had shot. and do u realize the goverment is trying to cover everything up? yea cuz they dont want us to kno the truth....
emmybabe21329 4 years ago
The driver kept a slow pace until he knew JFK was dead. Then, once the brain matter was spraying all over, & he could be certain JFK was dead, he sped off.
rockstarofredondo 4 years ago
..i feel so bad for his wife...
Iamtheice 5 years ago
How can some of u guys joke about this that is awful of u!
Barbiekiller 5 years ago
Wow it looks like his face explodes
wow
god bless him
Bonfitto 5 years ago
yeah it does, look at the cover for Carcass's album, Wake Up And Smell The Carcass, the cover is of one his autopsy photos, brains and crap sticking out, lol
maidenslayer 5 years ago
pause it at 326. i believe the bullet comes out
hockeyman101 5 years ago
If you look very closely you can actually see the driver turn and shoot Kennedy!
reichmarshall 5 years ago
Don't be fucking stupid, the guy in the front next to the driver is a politician, he also got hit.
PhateGBR 5 years ago
That was a joke.
reichmarshall 5 years ago
no the guy next to the driver was a secret service agent, the guy infront of Kennedy got hit.
koplamp 5 years ago
no. just, no.
Vanguard66 5 years ago
I wonder where O.J. was that day?
jayc988 5 years ago
Oswald wasn't a "sub-par marksman", he was a former Marine. He was a good shot.
Jake354 5 years ago
did his head get shot off bc it looked like it did
doomkid123 5 years ago
I have stood at the place were he was shot.
I find it hard to believe Oswald could have picked him off in a moving car from that range.
There is no doubt in my mind the assassination was a proffesional hit.
Lone gunman or multpile gunman one thing is clear, they hit their target and made sure the contract was completed.
JFK was a good president and given time would have done so much more for this world.
God bless him.
DarkAlewhiskers 5 years ago
JFK was shot by the Mafia, CIA and the russians tried but missed and hit the curb. Castro killed his brother and as for oswald well the Mafia hit him to keep his mouth shut.
marcian0 5 years ago
Eww pause at 20 theres brain mater and shit coming out
agrhgthssrgdfa 5 years ago
oswald was one of the best marksmen in his class dude, study befor you post bull crap like that and yes i have wrote 2 papers on this, i know
mafesto5000 5 years ago
Oswald may have been there, he may have fired some shots, he may be framed, he is a good/bad marksman...I have no idea. Unless you are blind, you can clearly see that the last shot came from the front and to his right.
fasmerom 5 years ago
i think your an idiot
psim928 5 years ago
Is it all hippies have to do is sit around and debate 40 year old conspiracy theories?
ranlisben 5 years ago
I'm pretty sure, but damn, JFK GOT PWNED LIKE A BITCH
RandomNoobie 5 years ago
I think that uor own goverment did it,because J was runing a good administrtion during his power,I don't know lets ask the vice president that gain the power and invated vietnam short after ,I think he hade to do something with it!
waddy66688 5 years ago
We were already in vietnam when jfk got shot retard
joeyjoef 5 years ago
The CIA had him shot. Period. He was shot by French gunmen who were later disposed of. Lee Harvey was involved but didnt fire the final shot.
Tw15teD 5 years ago
Sorry that posted twice.
Larenta2005 5 years ago
I don't think it was conspiracy, at least to the extent most people say, but how can you say Oswald was a sub-par marksman when he was a sharpshooter who was consistently accurate in the Marines? You guys have been watching Oliver Stone too much. And he fired 3 shots in barely over 8 seconds, which is entirely possible. But what do I know? Then again, does anybody?
Larenta2005 5 years ago
I don't think it was conspiracy, at least to the extent most people say, but how can you say Oswald was a sub-par marksman when he was a sharpshooter who was consistently accurate in the Marines? You guys have been watching Oliver Stone too much. And he fired 3 shots in barely over 8 seconds, which is entirely possible. But what do I know? Then again, does anybody?
Larenta2005 5 years ago
The Warren Commission's findings: 1 gunmen - 1 bullet, is comical. This was tri-angulated crossfire, set up by very high-ranking govt officials with the power to COVER IT UP. The Warren Commission was nothing but a facade and part of the cover-up.
3ringsAIKMAN 5 years ago
Mr and Mrs Connally both claim that he was hit when he started to turn to his left, wich would be a the begin of frame 311.
koplamp 5 years ago
I think abraham zapruder did it....with a colt .38 fired from the hip. notice the shaking in the camera when JFK is hit.
exxxxxxxx 5 years ago
Yea he's not shaking because he just saw someones head get blown to bits.
easytoremember246 5 years ago
Taken out by 3 gunmen under orders from Bush snr(head of CIA in 63) and LB johnson, both under orders from Meyer Lansky (very powerful mob boss).To take vast opium from vietnam and flood the states etc to make trillions and keep every body stoned and oblivious. Similar to our current presidents grandad, who financed hitlers nazis along with rokerfella/rothchilds etc ,again for trillions from the jews.Now they have Afghanistan for more opium.Evil+ bush/blair and queen of england.FreeMasons!
faz40 5 years ago
It is impossible Oswald's rifle, the Mannlicher-Carcano,to be fired more than once in less than 2.3 seconds.According to some interpretations of the Zapruder film, Governor Connally appears to react to being shot 1.7 seconds after Kennedy, therefore they must have been hit by 2 separate shots fired in more rapid succession than would have been possible for Oswald's Cacarno. Top rifle experts were incapable of making the rifle fire two shots in the 2.3-second timeframe
marshall1969 5 years ago
Former US Marine snipers, Craig Roberts, and Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, both said it could not be done as described by the FBI.
"Let me tell you what we did," Hathcock said. "We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target the obstacles, everything. I don't know how many times we tried it, but we couldn't duplicate what the WC said Oswald did.Now if I can't do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range do it?"
marshall1969 5 years ago
Wow I have not seen this since grammer school!! I just watched it over and over..slow played and everything..Doesn't it look like the guy in front of JFK in the passenger seat pulled something from over the seat and tuck it under his coat right as JFK puts his hands to his mouth? And then Jackie is looking at him the whole time..
beachangel310 5 years ago
No, when JFK is first hit that same bullet hits the guy in front of him. the guy is the Governor of Texas, John Connally.
koplamp 5 years ago
i almost puked when his head popped
kchuk 5 years ago
You know its prety clear that his head jerks forward before going "back and to the left" just do a quick rewind on the head shot you cant miss it.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
krazy video...
sad to see now RIP for this great guy...
RIP JFK
HochRunter 5 years ago
What is the flash coming from one o'clock on the video at frame 313? If it is the flash of a bullet, it couldn't have come from the book depository as that was at 10 o'clock to the frame. Any ideas?
Fourbrick 5 years ago
It would be nice to have that type of proof but it just couldn't happen. A bullet is going way to fast to show up on anything other than extreme slow-mo cameras.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
Not if it was on a low trajectory from behind the camera.
Fourbrick 5 years ago
The only bullets ever to have been caught on regular film are tracer rounds. It's too small to reflect enough light onto the film at the speed its moving. Even a tracer round would look like a perfectly straight tiny scratch on this old film. If it showed up at all.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
Any idea what the streak is then?
Fourbrick 5 years ago
I don't see the streak you are talking about. I see lots of streaks in every frame through out the video. But Its not a bullet. they just don't show up sorry. I did notice that between 312 and 314 their is undeniable forward movement of his head.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
Michael Donnelly shot JFK from Knoll.
Ceasan 5 years ago
Oswald fired the first shot fr the book bldg, yet there were 2-3 others ready to fire in "disguise" so no one would suspect: policeman, a bum (in those days when people more trusting). Oswald could have been in it for the money &/or threatened by the mob who didnt want JFK interfering w/their business, etc. Not only Oswald were guilty but Oswald got caught. A shame.
marlist1 5 years ago
A shame JFK was killed.
I was only 5 but remember it on the only B/W TV networks(CBS,NBC,ABC). All in shock(like 9/11)
marlist1 5 years ago
There was no conspiracy, period.
shaboo2 5 years ago
Former US Marine snipers, Craig Roberts, and Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, both said it could not be done as described by the FBI.
"Let me tell you what we did," Hathcock said. "We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target the obstacles, everything. I don't know how many times we tried it, but we couldn't duplicate what the WC said Oswald did.Now if I can't do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range do it?"
marshall1969 5 years ago
It is impossible Oswald's rifle, the Mannlicher-Carcano,to be fired more than once in less than 2.3 seconds.According to some interpretations of the Zapruder film, Governor Connally appears to react to being shot 1.7 seconds after Kennedy, therefore they must have been hit by 2 separate shots fired in more rapid succession than would have been possible for Oswald's Cacarno. Top rifle experts were incapable of making the rifle fire two shots in the 2.3-second timeframe
marshall1969 5 years ago
And we still don't know who really killed Lincoln! IT IS A MYSTARY!
Landshark23 5 years ago
people who say that Lee Harvey Oswald did it alone, i have 2 question's
1, Why did he do it?
2, Why did he leave $180.00 cash at the Paine residence, in Irving, money he might need after the assassination to escape?
koplamp 5 years ago
who knows
fettskraag 5 years ago
People who say that my dog ate the cats food yesterday, I have 2 question's:
1. Was he hungry? and,
2. Why did he bury a bone the preivious day in Mrs. Goldmans garden in Miller Ranch, rations for a dog on the run?
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
you still didn't anwser the question...
koplamp 5 years ago
For all the same reasons Tim McVey protested violently. Just a common sense guess. And $180 was equal to over an thousand now, so maybe it was his get away cash. Again thats a common sense guess.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
If you would have killed the president of the united states and you have $180 cash at your house, would you get it and get the hell out of the state? or would you try to draw attention by not paying a tickit at a movie theater?
koplamp 5 years ago
Maybe he didnt' have time to get there. Why would an innocent person shoot a cop over a movie ticket? That seems like the more interesting question.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
It is a interesting question, Oswald could have killed Tippit, but that doesn't mean he killed Kennedy too.
koplamp 5 years ago
So he had a gun that fired the kind of bullets that killed JFK, He was exremely anti capitalist and worked temporarily at the book depository that the bullets could have come from. He also dissapeared from work that day and might have shot a cop. That much you will agree with?
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
Oswald had a Mannlicher-Carcano right? 3 law enforcement officers a rifle and said it was a 7.65mm Mauser. There is a document of it where you can read it. plus if he fired 3 shots 1 hit a bystander 2 hit JFK/JC 3 hit JFK, there is a picture were you can see a bullet mark on the grass with the TSBD on the background. And i think that could not have come from the shot that missed.
koplamp 5 years ago
The extemely popular Mauser would look a lot like the much less popular Carcano. Its nearly identical. And the official reason he missed by so much was that he hit a tree branch. The fact that you cant even see the road from the 6th floor 40 years later because of those trees backs this up.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
The bullet hit the curb on the other side of Dealey Plaza, and the crack in the windshield, wich of the ''3'' bullets should that be? even if you believe the WC, i think we will never ever know what really happend.
koplamp 5 years ago
My guess would be the third shot went thru the wind shield after going through JFKs head. Oswald thought up and did it alone. Why is that so hard to swallow? Nothing about it was complicated.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
Me too.I shot a magpie at 250ft with a lousy air rifle,imagine what a high powered rifle is capable of, personally i think both kennedys were doomed once the old man made a deal with sam giancana.
faz40 5 years ago
Kinda explains why Sinatra drank so much too. I like where this theory is going, I mean... the gun was Italian.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
The crack was in the windshield before the headshot(see the Altgens photo of the limo) and don't forget the security sucked ass, most Secret Service agent were getting drunk the night before(so did agent Hill who jumped on the car) most windows in the TSBD were open, if they had done there job, none of those windows would have been open.
koplamp 5 years ago
Convertable.
I should stop there but, he was in a convertable on a seat made to make him taller than the other passengers. He was on display like always, like all the other politicians of his time.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
The head shot appears quite clearly from behind with the exit wound, the part you see, being more towards the front. Anyone who has ever fired a rifle knows the entrance hole is small and the exit wound is the big hole.
JFK assassination is/was the biggest conspiracy of the 20th century, likewise, 9/11 is proving to be the biggest of the 21st century...
We will NEVER know the truth!
xxxCrazyDavexxx 5 years ago
The murder itself is in the picture - JACQUELINE was the name of the perpetrator.
BillyBoysing 5 years ago
Surely no one believes the driver fired the second hit? He got a headshot, driving, shooting without turning his head, and with a weapon which didn't cause any flashes or smoke. Conspiracy theories can be interesting, and there are plenty of interesting theories concerning the JFK assassination, but the driver as the assassin? That's just absurd.
glassiop 5 years ago
Surely no one believes the driver fired the second hit? He got a headshot, driving, shooting without turning his head, and with a weapon which didn't cause any flashes or smoke. Conspiracy theories can be interesting, and there are plenty of interesting theories concerning the JFK assassination, but the driver as the assassin? That's just absurd. (500 characters my ass)
glassiop 5 years ago
I doubt she thought at the time, "I should collect the fragments" even if there were any big enough on the boot of the car. Possibly she touched a piece, but she wasn't diving for scraps, to quote Ellroy.
glassiop 5 years ago
Next, there was only one shooter. What are the chances that two managed to hit him within seconds of each other from different locations, even if they knew the hit was going in? Extremely remote. The headshot came from the rear; not that I'm a expert on how the skull reacts from a direct hit from a rifle bullet, but I'm fairly sure that the exit wound is more severe than the entry wound.
glassiop 5 years ago
She's jumping out of the back of the car for a reason. Not to escape from the driver, not to collect pieces of skull (lol? who thought that one up), not even to help the agent climb in. She's jumping out of the back to get the hell out of there, having just seen her husband's head come apart. All you conspiracy nuts seem to think people around would have acted calmly and precisely, but in reality she'd have been panicking and trying to get as far away as possible.
glassiop 5 years ago
The secret service agent is the one who told the story that she was picking up a piece of his skull.
koplamp 5 years ago
Actually if you get the cleaned up version of this (its on youtube somewhere) you can see a piece of skull on the back of the car, that she never actually collected, but went to get. People do histarical things. They later collected that piece for autopsy reasons.
hawkseye1802 5 years ago
And where was John Wayne when we needed him??
computerrage 5 years ago
okay some one help me...to me it looks like he grabs his throat, then his face gets..well you know what happend to his face. but what about his neck????
lolliepopx 5 years ago
he gets shot, the official story is that a bullet went up his back and exited trough his throat
koplamp 5 years ago
Up about an inch and a half. Not a long journey.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
Wow this video proves the govt. flew those planes into the Twin Towers and didn't land on the moon cuz of the Illuminati. Wake up sheep! cant you see the light of the UFOs commin to get us. Skull and Bones and NASCAR and Texaco are all in on it. And Elvis too. They're like Zombies, AAAAAA!
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
how did you find out
bonk2000 5 years ago
Aliens told me.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
is there anything they don't know?
bonk2000 5 years ago
They don't know where Osama is. Dude wears a tin foil cap under his towel, sneaky bastard.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
they couldnt find osama so hey just decided to bomb every other country hahah
fettskraag 5 years ago
Yeah, "that axis of evil" speach prety much told us all the plan for the next 50 years. "As so we don't get Osama'd again, we're going to arrest every dictator that hates us on war crimes and toss him back to his liberated peeps. Once he get's torn apart, we replace him with a dictator who likes starbucks."
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
or they thought.. HEy iraq has oil so lets kill 700 000 people!! and steal it and cover it up by directing all the attention against saddam even though we couldnt give a bigger shit about him or the iraqi people
fettskraag 5 years ago
you can see an initial movement of his head forward, fllowed by the recoiing backwards. Agree with 'e1mariem': "When the bullet strikes Kennedy in the BACK of the head, it fragments, causing the FRONT RIGHT portion of his head to come apart, and his head to flinch to the front. He then convulses back, making it APPEAR that he was hit from the front."
GETALIFEPEOPLE 5 years ago
You can see the driver turn around and fire the last shot. Watch it slow. Then post a comment and respond.
bjhalejr 5 years ago
You are seeing things that aren't there.
cymbalic 5 years ago
So why didn't Nellie Conally notice a hand gun going off in her ear? I did watch it slowly by the way, but didn't see a gun. What color is it?
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
somebody monitoring our comments will not let me reply to you, I wonder why?
bjhalejr 5 years ago
Try not to shove so many cuss words and conspiracy theories into 499 key strokes. Its a family site.
somedirtyhippie 5 years ago
People don't go flying when they are shot, like in the movies. They proved it on Mythbusters. If this was the case, then why didn't he go flying forward when he was shot through the BACK, and the bullet exited the FRONT of his neck? When the bullet strikes Kennedy in the BACK of the head, it fragments, causing the FRONT RIGHT portion of his head to come apart, and his head to flinch to the front. He then convulses back, making it APPEAR that he was hit from the front.
e1mariem 5 years ago
Were there not 55 witnesses to a shooter on the knoll? Plus didnt the House Seelect Committee conclude there was a shooter on the knoll?
mjd1982 5 years ago
What is JFK pointing at with his left arm after being hit in the back?
Avy112 5 years ago
Obvious he was hit from the front. No doubt at all.
Dazzler23 5 years ago
Impossible. 'sigh' There is a windshield on the front of the limo. There was Kellerman in the front right seat. There is Connoly in middle row right, in front of JFK. Then JFK himself in 3rd row, behind Connoly. How the hell is a bullet suppose to get through the windshield, Kellerman, Connoly then hit JFK??
cymbalic 5 years ago
several bullets hit connoly, dumass
ZosoB80 5 years ago
Wrong. Connoly was only hit once. Learn some facts and grow up little boy.
cymbalic 5 years ago
i know the facts. i guess you've never heard the magic bullet theory that explains how one bullet hit kennedy and left SEVERAL entrance and exit wounds in Connoly.
ZosoB80 5 years ago
Are you on drugs? You said several bullets hit Connoly. Now you're saying several entrance and exit wounds. Only ONE bullet hit Connoly. See how easy this is?
cymbalic 5 years ago
why would the bullet go trough the windshield?
koplamp 5 years ago
Show me another example of this happening, not in an experiment but in reality. Let's interview soldiers that have experienced people getting shot in the head. I haven't seen this or heard anybody that has experienced combat say that the head goes back towards the shooter when they get shot in the head yet. I'm totally open to this debate. I just want the truth.
greatmovieclips 5 years ago
I think a scienctific expereiment IS reality, but there are less factors to fault the truth.
brenan6 5 years ago
Look up New World order on videos on here. It brings up lots of questions..
xcfdiablo 5 years ago
new world order is garbage
Overkill303 5 years ago
omg! look it up oswald did it and he killed a cop! the only reson they think there was 2 people becoz he shot with a tree in fround of his target so they think that there was 2 people there wasent. Oswald was a messed up man! and he was shot going to cort! so that proves he did it!
zackj 5 years ago
I was at Dealey Plaza today (as I have been for the last 5 years on Nov. 22nd straight) and when I talk to all the people that where actually witness that day, I am convinced it was only a lone gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald.
McKool 5 years ago
Can i ask something about that? i have never been to America but when you are at dealey plaza, wich position would you take to shoot? and how far is the Grassy Knoll from the X were JFK got killed?
koplamp 5 years ago
Back and to the left for sure! That shot came from the grassy knoll!
simon134 5 years ago
Agreed!
KevinMystery 5 years ago
Today 43 years ago that the president was killed, RIP.
koplamp 5 years ago
He was hit with a dum dum bullet right front. That's why big damage going in. An Oswald bullet would leave small hole in, big hole out.2 shooters. Why would Oswald say he was a patsy, if he wanted to be remembered.
pnewtondodge 5 years ago
first of all....oswald could not be the shooter coz 3 bullets were shot in 5.6 seconds...u cant shoot that fast from old italian carabine rifle..even the FBI sniper tried it, impossible...especially at a moving target....And the other thing.I was in Dallas few years ago excatly 22nd of november....Texas oak tree or something at the side of elm street had enormous branhces and lots of leaves...So u have to be damn good
hitokiri13 5 years ago
marksman to shoot at the moving target through the trees and firing 3 bullets in 5.6 seconds...imposible....JFK had a large exit wound at the back of his head....And his head went backwards...so it couldnt be oswald...and that son of a bitch arlen spector made a biggest lie presenting his magic bullet theory...its impossble, bullets cant turn!!!
hitokiri13 5 years ago
I said earlier. I am a golfer.On a dare from a friend at a driving range I hit a shot with my 5wood at a skinny tree 200yrs away and hit the middle of the trunk dead on.He said it was not possible.Also I saw a test of a rifle shot into a swimming pool. The bullet hit the water and took a curving arc after impact.Bullet trajectories change when they impact a mass.
lgrrpp 5 years ago
The trees were not that tall in 1963. If you look at old photographs, they were about twice as high as they are today in 2006.
McKool 5 years ago
back? well t0 me iit seemz liike hez hiit 0n the siide 0f hiiz face... n0t the back... but thatz just me
trixxxy 5 years ago
There is a bullet mark in Dealy Plaza on the concrete storm drain beside where JFK was assassinated. I seen it myself. It is a long ricochet mark. The same bullet fragmented and hit a bystander in the cheek under the bridge. It certainly does NOT line up with the book depository building. Forget about theories, this is a fact. Oswald couldn't have fired itBystanders took photos of this mark in the hours that followed the shooting. The mark was never removed.
Ceasan 5 years ago
What about the guy sitting on the passenger side (in front of JFK)? It looks like he got shot in the back, while JFK gets shot in the face. So there's gotta be more than one shooter.
SeanneryConnery 5 years ago
My law and legal teacher was in the FBI and was in the marines. He said that him and the top snipers in the force tried shooting from where oswald was set up and they all missed. Oswald was paid off by the mafia and ruby was sent in to kill him and ruby was killed
bustdezzy 5 years ago
Lee harvey was killed in the garage of a police department by jack ruby....the colombo family paid off the police cheif to let jack ruby to let him in the garage. After he killed oswald, ruby was killed and thats where it ended. If you knew the people standing on the grass hill that say they heardd or saw a second shooter. Those 15 people died within the next 5 years. Car crashes suicides and what not but mysterious deaths.
bustdezzy 5 years ago
kk first of all...the night before the secret service had a party...no joke so they were all drinking and next morning laid back...
bustdezzy 5 years ago
Why did OSWALD run if he was an innocent man? Why did he shoot a cop? Are they the actions of an innocent man?
Ceasan 5 years ago
he didn't shot Tippit.
koplamp 5 years ago
People talk of conspiracy when the behavior of the Secret Service and the Police is obvious that there's more to the story
GodsOutlaw42 5 years ago
it was the colombo family mafia :) jfk was sleeping with 1 mafia mistress and marilyn monroe and the mafia had ties with cuba.
bustdezzy 5 years ago
Excuse me, Lee Harvey was a expert shot with a rifle and could hit targets from 200 yards and more. The 3 shots he got off were from less than 300 feet. The conspiracy nuts just want to sell their books and dumbasses like you buy them.
jacknitz 5 years ago
The angle he was at, could not of made the half of his head that fell off was from the frount.
ShUgO255 5 years ago
The driver of the car shoots JFK, watch the other zapruder video.
zecnobot 5 years ago
Show me another example of this happening, not in an experiment but in reality. Let's interview soldiers that have experienced people getting shot in the head. I haven't seen this or heard anybody that has experienced combat say that the head goes back towards the shooter when they get shot in the head yet. I'm totally open to this debate. I just want the truth.
entertainment4u 5 years ago
But I also remember the "what the thinker thinks the prover will prove" theory. Which is, if you are told enough times that x happened, even though it's obvious that y occured, you will believe x eventually happened because they will somehow prove it(by "demonstrations"). I can prove to anyone that I can walk on water given the right preparations.
entertainment4u 5 years ago
you are extremely correct and brilliant...i have never heard of this but it is completely legitimate...tell people something, they will prove it, somehow
laxinladiesman8 4 years ago
I remember first seeing this footage in the movie JFK. Right then, I believed that obviously there was at least one other shooter. But because of the slight forward movement of JFK right before his head "explodes" in the front, and because of the experiments I saw on watermellons and skulls, I began to question the dual shooter theory.
entertainment4u 5 years ago
lho had to shoot thru trees and still get off 3acurate shots in an impossible time!!! come on guys y cnt u just admit there was another shooter!! tell me something that proves there wasn't. All evidence shows that there had 2have been more than 1. y didn't he shoot him when he had a clear line of fire!!
rmoffatt86 5 years ago
Lee Harvey Oswald could not have shot JFK
GodsOutlaw42 5 years ago
He could of, I played "JFK Reloaded" And it was almost exactly the same.
ShUgO255 5 years ago
I believe that all Americans who lived to see this heinous act will never forget the morose feeling of sadness, panic, and loneliness in the pit of our stomach and heart on that fateful day and weeks that followed.
Doodlebug43 5 years ago
nicely put, your comment. Didn´t live at the time, but reading about the event today still leaves similar feelings. And also a tremendous indignation, I think. How the hell could it happen. And WHY.
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