Ron Paul converts TSA workers. 1/23/10 speech Part 1 of 6

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Google- Senator MIKE DOHERTY to sign online petition,  "STOP INVASIVE SEARCHES"

The Declaration Of Independence DIRECTS Citizens to OVERTHROW INVASIVE govt!

Profiling is saner.

9/11 + the 'Underwear-bomber' were PROVED set-up govt fakes

Scientists, (without SHARES in the machines!), state clearly that X-RAYS MUTATE & deform DNA permanently!

REFUSE to comply with lying uneducated TSA LAW does NOT end inside airports

TSA Toilet-attendants Stripping Americans is ILLEGAL under the Constitution

[tgambill]

Ron Paul is a Mason and is evidently a high Initiate in the Rosicrucian/Synarchist Conspiracy, and may be a bloodline descendant of the same lineage that rules the world today. He is a fifth column agenteur as they play both sides of this conspiracy.

[adoracle1]

@tgambill

how do you support these comments other than "because I say so"? explain yourself please.

[tgambill]

@adoracle1 coming your way....via your private channel due to restrictions of you tube and linked addresses.

[heartrocketblast]

@tgambill That makes no sense whatsoever.

[tgambill]

@heartrocketblast It wouldn't if you don't understand the Masonic agenda, Illuminati influence and goals, what a fifth column is defined as, and the end game. Its makes all the sense to those that understand this conspiracy. William G. Carr, "Satan, Prince of this World.",1959, for starters.

[Fliegenkarotte]

Thanks for posting Dr. Paul I think adding all the other stuff is a distraction, just give us the Good Dr. Thank You

[tubecat72]

This man has spoken only the truth throughout his entire career. Ron Paul 2012!

[Y0uEnj0yMyself]

Comment on this video

[TopSideUp]

fuck that gay commercial

[NoLongerFooled]

Ridley -

PLEASE DO NOT PUT IN SOUND BITES!!!!!!!!

[notbestfriends]

It is the initiation of force which must be outlawed.

[lizardfirefighter110]

Liberties gives us our freedoms. Freedom = Do no harm. That is do not tread on the freedoms of others.

[BoThead13]

dont put pictures in.

[oaky132x]

Great music at the end. Who is that great band? I couldn't have wrote it better myself...which I did (Berklee/Boston 1975) Thanks, I do like the new "flashback" style Dave. Better than just video of Ron talking...great job!!!!

[p00lman]

Poor batty old Ron Paul.

[paco757]

good ass video

[Quiltingsando]

Great job.

[283inc]

im the class of person that needs to be asks what and how ive been harmed

i make 25,000 a year fulltime i make 11.75 an hour more than most and i get no help for myself i do allow the gov to assist in my sons healthcare

butt i want to be left alone i want accountable officials representing the people in which chose to elect them,quit punishing everyone for making mistakes instead we spend more to incarcerate young people than we do to educate them to make better decisions and give them a chanc

[voteDRNO]

I like it! keep up the good work!

[leonski35]

A vote for ron paul is a vote for legitimizing government.

[return135]

@leonski, you must be an anarchist. Me too! i still like Ron Paul though, hes been huge to the liberty movement.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

It's just sad how working-class people are being bought in to the Ron Paul craze. Ron Paul's policies would be extremely hurtful to the working class, as they would enable businesses and business leaders to manipulate government policy more easily and would make it very hard for workers to organize. Look at everything Paul has done: voting against the Employee Free Choice Act (completely despicable in my view). Paul is indirectly serving the interests of the ruling class, not the people.

[poopstreek]

How would he hurt the working class? By giving them more of their own money?

Are you confusing the working class with the swelling welfare class, or the poor?

The ruling class (George Soros, and the richest of the rich, and the BANKERS) own both parties right now. How do you think they got TRILLIONS of OUR tax dollars, from both parties?

They use government as a tool. Don't you think that they would want government to grow, because they own it? The super rich get richer under socialism.

[fczwartek]

"the super rich get rich under socialism."

You're mistaken if you think that "socialism" is reason the rich get richer while the middle class and working poor get poorer.

That's not socialism, it's corporate fascism (and yes it is different.)

There is only one party in DC, the Business Party (which is split into two factions; democravens and rethuglicans.)

The Business Party gave their cronies in the banks 12 trillion dollars. The Business Party is not socialist.

[CurtHowland]

I do agree, Fc. Under Socialism, everyone just gets poor.

...except the power elite who direct the Socialist economy, they don't need money. They merely command that their desires be met.

Or is this some kind of special Socialism I haven't heard of?

Even Plato realized that there had to be perfect Philosopher Kings, in order to direct Utopia.

[hibraisil]

I agree with you, however socialism is an excuse that they use to pass schemes like healthcare reform, that allow them to get more power and thus more riches.

[FreeSpeecher]

@poopstreek All Monopolies are created by the government.

[Iain1962]

That is a nonsense statement you obviously have not listened carefully to what Ron Paul is saying.

Keynesianism makes people dependant which means they are controlled by beurocrats with clipboards, they would be much better off managing their own affairs, yes some would be worse off for a while, but all would benefit from less government intervention.

[fczwartek]

"all would benefit from less gvmnt intervention."

It would be beneficial to return to a kind of economic wild west mentality of the late 19th and early 20th centuries where anything goes...

Child labor laws, minimum wages, workplace safety standards, the 40 hour work week, consumer protections, fair labor standards, anti trust laws, environmental protections.... kiss all that goodbye!

Libertarianism is a race to the bottom that will only benefit those on the top. It's insanity.

[thanosied]

Unlike what we have now....

Let's see, everything is getting outsourced to places like china, where they have looser child labor laws, lower if any minimum wage, etc etc. And what happens, we have a huge deficit too as the national debt becomes astronomical. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.

[CurtHowland]

> And what happens...

The empire falls, the worthless Federal Reserve Notes follow every other fiat currency of history into the dustbin, and the people who are left deal with it the way the Romans did before them, by pulling back into City States (Balkanizing the present US is inevitable) and petty kingdoms.

Business flees to where business can be profitable, which is not the USA any more.

[fczwartek]

Only in the libertarian wet-dream fantasy world are things better in the 19th century.

Libertarian economic policies, not socialism, are what is destroying industry in this country.

Offshoring and outsourcing are a direct result of "free" trade (a cornerstone of the classical liberal/libertarian philosophy.)

But thats what happens when you put libertarians like Alan Greenspan and Milton Friedman in charge of your economic policies for a generation.

[lenny380]

@fczwartek please don't put Milton Friedman and Greenspan in the same group. outsourcing  is done to avoid unions raising wages and benefits to the level outsourcing is the only way to keep prices down. If the system doesn't "reset" to reduce future inflation and bring industry back here to the US we will be in deep.

[fczwartek]

Sorry Lenny, but it's true. Libertarians refuse to accept the fact that Alan Greenspan was a hardcore libertarian. He was an acolyte of Ayn Rand for crying out loud!

Outsourcing is a race to the bottom. We shouldn't lower our standard of living to entice a multinational corporation to keep a facility here.

But that's what you are recommending and that's what we've been doing for the last 30 years....... and they are leaving anyway!

[CurtHowland]

> Libertarians refuse to accept the fact that Alan Greenspan was a hardcore libertarian.

Hahahaha! By Cromm, Fc, you just crack me up.

Greenspan wrote one paper advocating a gold standard, then went into government "service" and proceeded to enact Keynesian policies from that day forward.

Name one thing he DID that is any way "libertarian"?

[fczwartek]

Are you the ideology purity gestapo now Curt? Embarrassed that it was a libertarian who wrecked the world economy....?

Yeah, I'd want to sweep that little nugget under the rug too.

AG supported:

-"free" trade, open markets (anti protectionism)

-privatization of social security, and pretty much everything else

-deregulation (especially of financial markets)

-less gvmnt intervention in markets

-welfare "reform"

-tax cuts for the rich

and on and on....

[CurtHowland]

Petty spite, Fc. You're simply wrong.

Tax cuts are great, I support any tax cut, I don't care for who. IF Greenspan got tax cuts enacted, which you have not demonstrated, then bully for him.

As to everything else, I asked you what he DID, not what you baldly assert he "supported".

What he DID was manipulate the money supply, year after year.

The most UN-libertarian action anyone can do is deliberately interfere coercively in a market.

Greenspan was ANTI-libertarian, by his own actions.

[CurtHowland]

> He was an acolyte of Ayn Rand for crying out loud!

You're operating under a common confusion.

Ayn Rand was no Libertarian. Or libertarian. She had nothing but contempt for libertarians because the libertarian principle of non-aggression justifies no government at all.

Rand loathed "anarchists" and falsely lumped libertarians into the "bomb-throwing anarchist" group.

[fczwartek]

Splitting hairs aren't you Curt?

I'll give you that Ayn Rand, for whatever reasons, detested libertarians in the 1970s. She called them "plagiarists" "misfits and scum" who stole her ideas and didn't give her credit.

She said the libertarian party was "allegedly pro capitalist."

But really, what difference is there between libertarian economic policy and objectivist policies?

None. It's essentially the exact same philosophy, regardless of Ayn Rand's crazy rantings.

[CurtHowland]

> It's essentially the exact same philosophy, regardless of Ayn Rand's crazy rantings.

Which Greenspan violated at every turn.

You're not supporting your assertion, you're demonstrating your basic error.

Greenspan, in office, was no Objectivist either!

[fczwartek]

"which Greenspan violated at every turn."

I just gave you a list of objectivist/libertarian economic policies that AG supported while he was chairman of the Fed.

AG was the most influential person at the controls of the economy for about a quarter century. Whenever AG came out in support (or against) any given economic policy..... that carried a lot of weight.

He had more influence over economic policies than probably any other person.

So he wasn't "pure" ideologically, who is?

[hibraisil]

You are so wrong. Libertarianism would not allow all the laws that favor corporations, nor would it let them get off easy after doing damage, a practice that is legitimized by the current system. That's why Polaroid kept dumping toxic wasted into the Charles river in Boston. Sure they got fined and "paid their debt to society" every five years but they were paying a 5 million dollar fine rather than paying 20 million a year for proper disposal.

[fczwartek]

"libertarianism would not allow laws that favor corporations."

Really? So libertarians would create strong laws that are staunchly anti-corporate? Or would libertarians just leave it up to the mythical free market to sort everything out?

You're right though. The current system of corporate fascism is unacceptable (look at what happened with the exxon valdez for example.)

Libertarianism will only give exxon and polaroid more leverage, more profits, more power. In my opinion.

[hibraisil]

As Ron Paul explains it both state and federal governments have the right to enforce contract law and property law. If he had his way there would be no massive laws with complicated loopholes. If an action causes damage to another's property than the corporation is responsible for whatever it costs to make it right. Polaroid and Exxon would not have had any loopholes to exploit nor would they be fined a meager token. They would have had to clean up their entire mess, period.

[CurtHowland]

Why are children not working?

Because parents can earn enough that they don't have to.

Why is the 40 hour work week possible?

Because people are now productive enough to produce enough in 40 hours to be worth hiring.

Some people even have 32 hour work weeks, without any law requiring it.

Some parents can even send their kids to college, meaning the kids don't "produce" until their mid-late 20's.

All possible because of capital investment. Capitalism.

Viva la Free Market!

[fczwartek]

"Viva la Free Market"

All these examples you give of the "free market" in action are false.

First of all lets kill your premise that there even is a "free market." What you call the free market is certainly not free, or a market- but a plunder.

Child labor laws, the 40 hour week, occupational safety standards, consumer protections ect certainly did not come about as a result of your precious "free market" but because people mobilized and forced gvmnt and business to accept those rules.

[CurtHowland]

> All these examples you give of the "free market" in action are false.

How?

Tell me how government made people so productive they could work 40 hours and earn enough to live on.

Prove it, Fc.

[fczwartek]

Oh I see, you're blinded by the illusion that businesses want to pay their workers overtime if they exceeded 40 hours a week!

We might as well just repeal overtime laws right now, because according to you the "free market" would demand that businesses pay overtime regardless of any law!

And if workers can't get overtime pay through the "free market" (which doesn't even exist) then screw them?

Your devotion to the mythical "free market" is religious like.

[CurtHowland]

> you're blinded by the illusion that businesses want to pay their workers overtime if they exceeded 40 hours a week!

Competition in the job market works both ways. Good workers demand better salaries, or they won't take the job. Employers have to offer incentives to keep workers happy, like 40 hour work weeks, overtime, etc.

That's where employer-paid insurance and health care came from too, NOT government mandate.

Mandates just make hiring less-able over-seas labor more attractive.

[fczwartek]

"competition in the job market works both ways."

You seem to think that workers and employers are on a level playing field. You are as wrong as Thomas Friedman who tells us that the economic "world is flat" (i.e. level.)

Fact is that employers own nearly all the cards in the deck. Workers still have a few cards, (such as gvmnt regulations) but you think that those should be taken away and that miraculously the mythical "free market" will make everything ok.

What a fraudulent ideology.

[CurtHowland]

No "seem" about it.

I own my labor totally. I cannot be forced to work, I cannot even be forced to labor "up to my abilities" if I don't feel like I am being treated well by my employer.

And there is NOTHING they can do about it.

Employers are at the total mercy of their employees.

That's why anyone gets paid more than minimum wage. Employers have to bid up salaries to attract labor.

You really think everyone is paid minimum wage because that is what is required by law?

[fczwartek]

"employers are at the total mercy of their employees."

I can see you already live in libertarian fantasy land. You can't really be serious....

Here in the real world normal people will recognize your statement for what it is; a joke.

I'm glad that not working is an option for you. For most people withholding their labor is not an option. Having a job or being homeless isn't really an exercise in free-will.

I don't have the luxury of sitting by the pool and collecting the dividends check.

[CurtHowland]

> You can't really be serious....

Your fundamental error, Fc, is in not realizing that I mean everything I say, and can support it through both logical and historical examples.

> Having a job or being homeless isn't really an exercise in free-will.

Then prove it. Tell me truthfully that you work for minimum wage.

Demonstrate that you are "at the mercy of employers".

[hibraisil]

You keep saying "free market" but you are describing corporitism. A true free market is something to strive for. That doesn't mean going back in time to when things were just corrupt in a different way.

[fczwartek]

"but you are describing corporatism"

That's exactly right! Which is why I have said before that the free market doesn't exist, and it never has.

There is no free market. It is a myth. What people call the "free market" is not free or a market, but a plunder. The extortionate plunder.

Creating economic policy based on a myth is insane!

[thanosied]

You're right, the market isn't free. That is because of government intervention. Everything from taxation to specific regulations distorts the market. You see, government is a monopoly. And it uses threats at the force of a gun to collect taxes and enforce arbitrary laws. Government taxes = Extortion. Government intervention = market manipulation. One man, no matter how good his intentions are, cannot manage an entire economy on his own. It takes millions of interactions of free people to do so.

[hibraisil]

And of course, don't forget that centralizing power as our legislators are currently attempting to do is only going to tempt the greedy even more. Its mighty convenient to get all your corruption done in one place rather than having to deal with 50 separate state governments made up of people who have to live close to the consequences of their actions.

[fczwartek]

Lobbying and electioneering have essentially become an investment tool for big business.

If the pharmaceutical industry (for example) spends $5 billion in 10 years lobbying congress, buying elections for congressmen, senators, judges, the president and they get $100 billion dollars in gvmnt business, tax breaks, kickbacks,"incentives"...

The math is easy.

If the pharmaceutical industry can afford to buy the federal gvmtn, it can easily afford to buy a state, group of states, all the states...

[Iain1962]

So you prefer instead the govt to take your earnings and print up even more money and hand it out all over the place including foreign countries, I'm afraid the current status quo is a race to the bottom.that only benefits those at the top, at least with libertarianism we all have a chance.

What's the unemployment rate at the moment in the US? What do you manufacture these days?

Do you really think they can borrow and spend their way out of the mess they created by borrowing and spending?

[hibraisil]

The key would be to have the minimum amount of laws to guarantee an even playing field in the market.

[hibraisil]

If you think this then you really have no clue about Ron Paul.

[CurtHowland]

Whatever you do, don't get Fc going about guns, either.

[hibraisil]

DO IT. DO IT. GUNS GUNS. In the 20th century over 170 million people were killed by their own governments. Why shouldn't the people have the right to protect themselves against that possibility?

[fczwartek]

Lol!

Ease up there chief! I'm sure Ridley will grant us another forum and opportunity to talk guns.

And so you know, I'm not against gun ownership. But I do question the effectiveness of guns to reduce crime, and I essentially think John Lott is full of shit.

[hibraisil]

Can't disagree with that. But I have seen firsthand how the attitudes of 4 guys can change from predatory to "oh shit" when they see their victim put his hand on the gun he's carrying.

[elbuggo]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 - Crybaby.

[john2knj]

You need to learn more about Ron Paul as it's obvious you don't understand his platform well at all.

The Employee Free Choice Act will abolish NLRB elections and allow unions to certify via card check, meaning no anonymity (opening employees up to intense pressure from the union leadership). This Act takes choices away from the people. All that aside, if you read and understand the Constitution you would easily be able to figure out why Ron Paul voted against it.

[EastCoastOp]

Ron Paul is a true American Patriot.

[Michael7477]

@EastCoastOp Not only is Ron Paul a great US patriot - he is a patriot of humanity. I wish we had someone like Ron Paul in New Zealand.

[chaserehn]

I like your show man.