Is that not Robert Smith on Guitar there, I know he was with the band for some time.... just checking... what a treat for all those that attended those concerts and later the Cures! Frack!!! I miss the Cure Concerts!!!
@JuergenGDB It is Robert Smith--he played on this live album, "Nocturne" as well as SATB's studio album "Hyaena". He was fresh off of his side project with SATB bassist Steve Severin called The Glove, album called "Blue Sunshine". That album is fantastic as well.
This is the first version of Israel I ever heard back in 1985 - Robert Smith doesn't do that mad McGeoch guitar bit after the second verse but I was more of a Cure fan at that time : )
lady who ? saw this lady back in the early 80s performed with a broken leg ,in plaster but still didnt let her fans down oxford appollo i think magic performance never did get onto x factor tho ! why because is a true artist and performer what do you honestly think they would say about her ?
@arthurpussy Saw her during the same tour at the Royal Concert Hall in Nottingham on Bonfire night!!! Madness. The security expected everyone to remain in their allocated seats but, well that wasn't happening... lol. It got a bit rough and Steve had had enough it seemed so he fired his bass - mid song, dived into the crowd and started laying into the security staff!!! Never forget it. After it calmed down Siouxsie said simply "Bring me the head of the bouncer" and carried on with the next track.
I've heard the audio from the Nottingham Royal Concert Hall gig (5/11/85) on 'Untiedundone'.
During "Melt!", Siouxsie yells to the security "Will you stop interfering with our fucking concert! Fuck off!" and then the band stop playing and the crowd cheers (must've been when Steven through down his bass).
And at the end of "The Sweetest Chill", Siouxsie says "Would that git in the navy blue jumper stop behaving like an officious little prick and let the fucking people move!"
@VlogKing - Brilliant. Thanks matey. I checked out Untiedundone, and low and behold the whole concert was uploaded!! I was a wee sprat of 16yrs at the time and a bit overwhelmed by the whole experience so forgot all those other juicy bits you quoted but that one line "Bring me the head of the bouncer" sent shivers down my spine and stuck! Great to hear it again. Many Thanks :)
...blown away. music like this, please come back. one of the best songs EVER created in history. most songs like that come from 70s, 80s, or underground. not enough of it.
It sounds like the Nocturne concert, the live album which my sister bought many years ago. If that is true then it definitely is Robert Smith playing.
Watched it a few times & still can't tell if it's Smith on the right: not enough spotlight on him. On all versions of Israel I saw, haven't seen one with him in it, though he was in the band at the time.
It is Robert Smith on guitar. Smith joined the band briefly in late 1979 to help them finish the "Join Hands" tour and then again in late 1982 - early 1984. He is heard on the live 1983 album "Nocturne" (which this clip is from) and "Hyaena".
The original version of "Israel" was released as a stand alone single on 28 November 1980, with John McGeoch on guitar, who was with the band from 1980 - 1982.
@VlogKing Thx! I just couldn't tell, cos we don't see him well enough (at least I don't & I know very well what he looked like through all eras). I know he was in the band during those years (on & off) , though not with as much precision as you do.
A funny incident: I saw the Cure circa summer 84 & tons of kids had the same hair & look as he did. I think he was getting tired of it. So eventually while onstage, he pulls his hair off (it's a wig) to reveal a crew cut underneath. (cont.)
Whilst in the Banshees from 1983-4, he was also working with The Cure and the side project with Steve Severin on The Glove.
The clip I've seen of The Cure where Simon Gallup pulls off Robert's wig to reveal his new cropped hairstyle is from the beginning of "The Cure In Orange" live DVD, recorded August 1986. Maybe that's the concert you're talking about?
@VlogKing I have The Glove album (unless there was more than one). But The Cure, as I'm sure you know, started much earlier than 83-4.
I'm sure it was not in 86 I saw them, since I mentionned a friend & we were dating in 84 & that's when we saw the show. In 85, we weren't together anymore.
No, The Glove released one album called"Blue Sunshine", released in August 1983. Yes, The Cure formed in Crawley, West Sussex in 1976.
The only time I've seen Robert with his hair crewcut style, after years with his trademark big hair, was during clips from the 1986 live show "The Cure In Orange".
@VlogKing I used to know all this by heart, just like you. That's what I thought, The Glove released only 1 album: Blue Sunshine, that I have. I know The Cure was formed in the 70s & earlier than most ppl think.
As for the year of the show I saw, I'm sure of it, as I told you. He could have cut his hair temporarely & let it grow back after the tour, before doing the same stunt in 86, whilst always keeping a wig in public. But there's just no way that I saw ''The Cure In Orange'', I swear!
At one moment, he starts playing a song, which is not by The Cure. Obviously, a lot of people don't know that. But my friend & I look at each other & we know what it is. The crowd, especially kids start cheering like crazy. He stops & says that it's not a Cure song,as if it wasn't obvious, but some Gary Glitter & then says some insult to the crowd for not knowing the diff.
We were very young too, but at least 18 & we laughed a bit but also thought 'Is this his usual mood? Charming!'
My god, where have I been all these years? This band knows how to accomplish that beautifully melodic sound that I'm so attracted to in music. It's so hard to describe in words, but all I know is that it's a sound many musicians these days either can't accomplish or don't want to. What an absolute gem this band is.
@BurningFreesias A truly great comment to have shared... Siouxsie is inimitable. I caught a bus to Melrose (Los Angeles) to buy Tinderbox the day it was released... I think the sound and manner in which it was captured/welcomed is timeless..Well wishes!
OMG this takes me back. I was in the stalls, to the left of the stage. My glasses flew off my face from the pogoing...I dived over the barrier to get 'em back and was lifted out by my ankles by security. LOL happy days.
@stoneroses13 its knocking Israel more than the Arabs....but to be fair Siouxsie cuts it with Arabian Knights instead....but its not racism...she's criticising the middle east full stop no favourtism here
I am not sure it's knocking anyone. "Orphans in the snow" does sound to me though as the fate of the surviving Jews in Europe after WWII. The United Nations created Israel and the Jewish people deserve their state for what they suffered in the Holocaust.
Rober Smith!!!!!
freakworksmexico 2 days ago
@freakworksmexico Robert Smith!!!
freakworksmexico 2 days ago
Is that not Robert Smith on Guitar there, I know he was with the band for some time.... just checking... what a treat for all those that attended those concerts and later the Cures! Frack!!! I miss the Cure Concerts!!!
JuergenGDB 3 weeks ago
@JuergenGDB It is Robert Smith--he played on this live album, "Nocturne" as well as SATB's studio album "Hyaena". He was fresh off of his side project with SATB bassist Steve Severin called The Glove, album called "Blue Sunshine". That album is fantastic as well.
BiffWhitebread13 1 week ago
This is the first version of Israel I ever heard back in 1985 - Robert Smith doesn't do that mad McGeoch guitar bit after the second verse but I was more of a Cure fan at that time : )
Joeskint 3 weeks ago
Siouxsie Sue, I love you!
amandawiss 3 weeks ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Siouxsie and the Banshees
Vive les New Proton Punks not Dead !!! :)
57opera 1 month ago
The bass-line is simply brilliant...!!!
Marcobelix 1 month ago
i love this song and my canary also love everytime i put this song he start to sing like a crazy
vasilis452 1 month ago
What a fawkin piece of chit.
deddodge5 2 months ago
<3
DataUnit 2 months ago
massa, ouvi muito este som cheirando loló nos anos 80 !!!!!!
fredrosario 3 months ago
lady who ? saw this lady back in the early 80s performed with a broken leg ,in plaster but still didnt let her fans down oxford appollo i think magic performance never did get onto x factor tho ! why because is a true artist and performer what do you honestly think they would say about her ?
arthurpussy 3 months ago
@arthurpussy Saw her during the same tour at the Royal Concert Hall in Nottingham on Bonfire night!!! Madness. The security expected everyone to remain in their allocated seats but, well that wasn't happening... lol. It got a bit rough and Steve had had enough it seemed so he fired his bass - mid song, dived into the crowd and started laying into the security staff!!! Never forget it. After it calmed down Siouxsie said simply "Bring me the head of the bouncer" and carried on with the next track.
Outlander929 3 weeks ago
I've heard the audio from the Nottingham Royal Concert Hall gig (5/11/85) on 'Untiedundone'.
During "Melt!", Siouxsie yells to the security "Will you stop interfering with our fucking concert! Fuck off!" and then the band stop playing and the crowd cheers (must've been when Steven through down his bass).
And at the end of "The Sweetest Chill", Siouxsie says "Would that git in the navy blue jumper stop behaving like an officious little prick and let the fucking people move!"
VlogKing 3 weeks ago
@VlogKing - Brilliant. Thanks matey. I checked out Untiedundone, and low and behold the whole concert was uploaded!! I was a wee sprat of 16yrs at the time and a bit overwhelmed by the whole experience so forgot all those other juicy bits you quoted but that one line "Bring me the head of the bouncer" sent shivers down my spine and stuck! Great to hear it again. Many Thanks :)
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You're welcome. It sounds like it would've been a memorable night indeed!
I'm currently 16 but I wish I could've seen the Banshees when they were at their best from 1978-1988!
"Nocturne" is one of the best live albums ever and the DVD with the footage from both nights makes it even better. Amazing to watch!!
VlogKing 3 weeks ago
3 People Dont Know What REAL MUSIC Is.. My GOD Im Completely Amazed By Their Complexity: TRUE TALENT. :)
DarkStarGSK22 3 months ago
WOW*....Robert & Siouxsie*
5131030 3 months ago
My mate from Crouch End had a one night stand with her ... the lucky sod.
northernsoul44 3 months ago
...blown away. music like this, please come back. one of the best songs EVER created in history. most songs like that come from 70s, 80s, or underground. not enough of it.
MartyredxMaiden 3 months ago
Absolutely brilliant. I love Siouxsie and Robert. <3
HeadbangerPars 4 months ago
La musica della mia giovinezza....Siouxie, Roby Smith, Ian Curtis... e molti altri che fecero della FANTASTICA musica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrRoomby 5 months ago
There's way too much coolness on this stage 8-)
lewisner 5 months ago 2
blessed songs to purge our beaten souls of all the laughable sadness of today's pop
lymulu 5 months ago
Ohh!.... Soooooooo.... fuck"n good!.... What memories!....
What the fuck happened to great music?....
SMCGSXR 5 months ago
On n'a pas dit au mec qui filme que c'était Robert Smith à la guitare...
chrisgigi67 5 months ago
My Goddess !!!
SirPyrex 6 months ago
guitar u mean but ur quite right that is robert smith from the cure
clarkieM1 6 months ago
Thats Robert Smith on base from the CURE!
amapunker76 6 months ago
איזה כייף ליראות את סוזי והחברה שרה על ישראל בתקופה של פאנק ברוכה הבאה
ArikSilver 6 months ago
It sounds like the Nocturne concert, the live album which my sister bought many years ago. If that is true then it definitely is Robert Smith playing.
SPQRTempus 7 months ago
Watched it a few times & still can't tell if it's Smith on the right: not enough spotlight on him. On all versions of Israel I saw, haven't seen one with him in it, though he was in the band at the time.
daypeshmodd 7 months ago
@daypeshmodd
It is Robert Smith on guitar. Smith joined the band briefly in late 1979 to help them finish the "Join Hands" tour and then again in late 1982 - early 1984. He is heard on the live 1983 album "Nocturne" (which this clip is from) and "Hyaena".
The original version of "Israel" was released as a stand alone single on 28 November 1980, with John McGeoch on guitar, who was with the band from 1980 - 1982.
VlogKing 7 months ago
@VlogKing Thx! I just couldn't tell, cos we don't see him well enough (at least I don't & I know very well what he looked like through all eras). I know he was in the band during those years (on & off) , though not with as much precision as you do.
A funny incident: I saw the Cure circa summer 84 & tons of kids had the same hair & look as he did. I think he was getting tired of it. So eventually while onstage, he pulls his hair off (it's a wig) to reveal a crew cut underneath. (cont.)
daypeshmodd 7 months ago
@daypeshmodd
Whilst in the Banshees from 1983-4, he was also working with The Cure and the side project with Steve Severin on The Glove.
The clip I've seen of The Cure where Simon Gallup pulls off Robert's wig to reveal his new cropped hairstyle is from the beginning of "The Cure In Orange" live DVD, recorded August 1986. Maybe that's the concert you're talking about?
VlogKing 7 months ago
@VlogKing I have The Glove album (unless there was more than one). But The Cure, as I'm sure you know, started much earlier than 83-4.
I'm sure it was not in 86 I saw them, since I mentionned a friend & we were dating in 84 & that's when we saw the show. In 85, we weren't together anymore.
daypeshmodd 7 months ago
@daypeshmodd
No, The Glove released one album called"Blue Sunshine", released in August 1983. Yes, The Cure formed in Crawley, West Sussex in 1976.
The only time I've seen Robert with his hair crewcut style, after years with his trademark big hair, was during clips from the 1986 live show "The Cure In Orange".
VlogKing 7 months ago
@VlogKing I used to know all this by heart, just like you. That's what I thought, The Glove released only 1 album: Blue Sunshine, that I have. I know The Cure was formed in the 70s & earlier than most ppl think.
As for the year of the show I saw, I'm sure of it, as I told you. He could have cut his hair temporarely & let it grow back after the tour, before doing the same stunt in 86, whilst always keeping a wig in public. But there's just no way that I saw ''The Cure In Orange'', I swear!
daypeshmodd 7 months ago
@VlogKing
At one moment, he starts playing a song, which is not by The Cure. Obviously, a lot of people don't know that. But my friend & I look at each other & we know what it is. The crowd, especially kids start cheering like crazy. He stops & says that it's not a Cure song,as if it wasn't obvious, but some Gary Glitter & then says some insult to the crowd for not knowing the diff.
We were very young too, but at least 18 & we laughed a bit but also thought 'Is this his usual mood? Charming!'
daypeshmodd 7 months ago
@daypeshmodd It is Robert Smith - I have the VHS video.
172Break 6 months ago
what is the name of the Music Opera starting,
Siouxsie forever !!
cesaregomix 7 months ago
Stravinsky - Rite Of Spring.
An amazing concert! Siouxsie forever indeed!!
VlogKing 7 months ago
@VlogKing thanks : )
cesaregomix 7 months ago
Is that the ultra genius Robert Smith doing the lead?
survivorproject 7 months ago
wonderful
ellamae1100 8 months ago
finally a great crowd
elizameth 8 months ago
Icone des années 80, avec Robert Smith à la guitare, que dire de plus.Groupe mythique.
Lady gaga n'a rien inventé surtout pas le talent.
Merci les Siouxie.
chrisgigi67 8 months ago 11
Brilliant !!!!!! Better than crap out these days
loc1968 8 months ago 2
saw them liverpool 1980 something
47alanf 9 months ago
oh try not to get so emo on us...sheesh!
solinari399 9 months ago
My god, where have I been all these years? This band knows how to accomplish that beautifully melodic sound that I'm so attracted to in music. It's so hard to describe in words, but all I know is that it's a sound many musicians these days either can't accomplish or don't want to. What an absolute gem this band is.
BurningFreesias 9 months ago 21
@BurningFreesias A truly great comment to have shared... Siouxsie is inimitable. I caught a bus to Melrose (Los Angeles) to buy Tinderbox the day it was released... I think the sound and manner in which it was captured/welcomed is timeless..Well wishes!
musickmunki 3 months ago
@BurningFreesias I wonder how she'd do on the X Factor?
engineroomapocalypse 2 months ago
A Classic ! It give me the shivers !!!!" Fantastic !!!
rogerocks 10 months ago
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I really like her....
flatsfishingonline 11 months ago
what the name owhat the name of the drummer?
nadoanacleto 11 months ago
@nadoanacleto BUDGIE
Johnny12v 10 months ago
@Johnny12v Thanks my friend!!
nadoanacleto 10 months ago
what the name owhat the name of the drummer
nadoanacleto 11 months ago
what i wouldnt give to be in that pit!
NewPaltzIndie 1 year ago
@NewPaltzIndie no need for a pit actually--more classical dance for this! LoveuGodBless, T and J KABBALAH MATTHEWSHEPARD MADONNALICIOUS
SpeedoTriathlete 11 months ago
What's the venue?
sergiosozi 1 year ago
@sergiosozi the ALBERT HALL london 83 got gig from tv
razer4660 1 year ago
ONE OF THE GREATS!
dohkimoreally 1 year ago
A volte ritornano e ti ricordano da dove vieni
miesweb 1 year ago
Correct !!!
lizrdgolfer 1 year ago
Is that Robert Smith on guitar? =D
Phyle9 1 year ago
@Phyle9 Yes.....
ellycat 1 year ago
@Phyle9 It is Robert Smith on Guitar. The song is from the Nocturne video from 1983.
172Break 1 year ago
@Phyle9 NO
DrEuthanasia 11 months ago
Excellent concert - Excellent Album :-o
TheOriginalMrShadow 1 year ago
what a voice!!!!
Florcitax 1 year ago
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Is a big, no huge song!!
andycave73 1 year ago
Is a big, no huge song!!
andycave73 1 year ago
Look at those retards trying to mosh.....
ChrisSutton82 1 year ago
looks like a great show
SIHELL 1 year ago
So can we all agree that the bit starting from 2:33 is basically the greatest piece of music ever?
richfrommitch 1 year ago
@richfrommitch i'll happily cosign that one
thelaughingman79 1 year ago
"To turn blood into wine"...the opposite of Christian imagery...very clever!
LTF6161 1 year ago
Could she be any more AWESOME?
bulldawg991 1 year ago
They rock it live, awesome
Frog154 1 year ago
A band that used no back-up track.... imagine today! Brilliant!!
thegreatauk01 1 year ago
the best of Siouxee!
mrphic69 1 year ago
i remember girls with that hair at school. iconic stuff. what year is this?
uberkernow 1 year ago
her dance moves,<3333
pinkmoonmist 1 year ago
orw matron
dregs1983 1 year ago
This is so freaking great. It's even better when compared to nowadays crap and rap.
Jesteria78 1 year ago
Her style is so turn of the century (ie 20th century) and is quite impressive. I am thinking Theda Bara.
LTF6161 1 year ago
OMG this takes me back. I was in the stalls, to the left of the stage. My glasses flew off my face from the pogoing...I dived over the barrier to get 'em back and was lifted out by my ankles by security. LOL happy days.
ias115 1 year ago
Ooh she was really flat in alot of parts. It annoys me.
FarcusNS 1 year ago
great song... very cool
torahislife 1 year ago
WARNING: Don't sing this song when you're in arab countries! Arabs hate beautiful song like this!
stoneroses13 1 year ago
@stoneroses13 its knocking Israel more than the Arabs....but to be fair Siouxsie cuts it with Arabian Knights instead....but its not racism...she's criticising the middle east full stop no favourtism here
SnellSchnell 1 year ago
@SnellSchnell Is it true that Ian Beale is a huge fan?
dowling1981 1 year ago
@SnellSchnell
I am not sure it's knocking anyone. "Orphans in the snow" does sound to me though as the fate of the surviving Jews in Europe after WWII. The United Nations created Israel and the Jewish people deserve their state for what they suffered in the Holocaust.
LTF6161 1 year ago
oh this brings back many memories of the gigs I went too. John McGeoch RIP
TalkToTheBody 1 year ago
@TalkToTheBody thats not john thats robert smith in this live version toured for a few years with them
zaxxx1975 1 year ago
robert smith playsss amazingg in this concerttt aAAAAAAAAAAAA LOAM O LOS AMOOO
mariapila08 2 years ago
from wich album ?
Tresor101 2 years ago
Nocturne
clockworkaccordion 2 years ago
i love this song very veryyy muchhhh.
elfsioux 2 years ago 22
@elfsioux me too TT__TT beautiful moments comes to me
ElleViCiOuS 7 months ago
YESSS!
youcandance12345 2 years ago 16