How to Build a Bedini Motor ... Part 1

[TheSelfGoverned]

This would spin with very little energy, but it couldn't handle a significant load, and if it did, would require substantially more power to the electromagnet.

How is this any different than a conventional electric motor? The pulsing energy input? This merely reduces the energy input, torque, and thus output of the engine, yes?

[ghpiygfuy]

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[333kgb]

hi, nice work! I have a meter and I want to know how much amps are coming out of the battery were do the 2 leads of the meter go

[JOOODYJOOODY]

..you have done the best i have ever seen to make this doable ..thank you so much ...

[333kgb]

The negative on the primary battery go’s to the inner 20 gauge wire on the coil which also go’s to the emitter on the transistor and the inner 24 gauge wire from the coil go’s to the collator on the transistor then the neon bulb is connected to the emitter and collator does it matter which way I put the neon bulb? And is there any problems you see in this hookup? Thanks for you help!

[333kgb]

The potentiometer is connected to a 24 gauge outside coil wire. My 1N4007 diode is connected to the positive on the secondary battery. Then the outside 20 gauge wire runs to negative on the secondary battery and on the positive on the primary battery.

[333kgb]

Hi I have been trying to get the bedini motor to work, but the wheel just comes to a stop. My setup is 1N4001 diode is connected on the emitter to the base on the transistor. Then the base is connected to a 470 resister. Then resister is connected to the potentiometer.

[bibicuxxl]

@333kgb hi. did you managed to make it work? Please reply to me

[333kgb]

so to make the wheel turn you need a battery

[renigadegi]

ramble ramble ramble rename your video

[erickclare05]

FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BEDINI'S MOTOR-ENERGYZER .. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP !! ... there are people who just replicates his models ... read some of his scientific publications first before say something .. peace !

[totallycritical]

lol, as soon as someone says: "you need a battery" you know they're full of shit! If it was unity or over, it would NOT need a battery! Lol

[mushu5t]

There's also a 555 timer that you could use to pulse the DC current. Wire the trigger to the coil and there you go. Putting the output pulse to a supply transistor (with a large enough heatsink) would increase the efficiency of the motor.

[Luckylearner]

good explanation

[lazyray304]

you talk too much and your shit doesn't work, wtf???

[TheNuclearWatermelon]

Make one out of a hard drive. They have much lower friction on the bearings.

[imthefrogman]

to bad it dont work.. : ( maybe in part 2 !!??

[ungwigwi]

board of this

[MALEXIOU1]

i arleady build a bedini circuit but i cannot

charge the battery more than 11-12volts

1 cant go to 14v why!!!

[aikaslbab]

@MALEXIOU1 Ose more oms potenciometer. Or lees oms rezistor.

[ukandrius]

Good video!!! +10

[shiftgood1]

I appreciate this English persons way of teaching. I would like to have written him a post card, but with no e-mail (much less an address) HOW can I say: "Thank you."

[SyTyger]

BEDINI is NOT a "FREE ENERGY" device. Free Energy implies that it turns itself. YOU dont start it turning. BEDINI MOTORS require you to start them, so, it's not "FREE ENERGY".

[introvertebrate]

lol

[irrah77]

@introvertebrate .. Damn..you that lazy ??

[Protoproff]

@introvertebrate fancy putting a video together with a non working model, burnt out circuits!!

[pkrska]

Sometimes you have to start your wife or girlfriend too, it's the laws of nature.

[DannyShaubolo]

@SyTyger ah yes, but it is over unity, getting more power out then you put in!

[introvertebrate]

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT MAGNIWORK IS A SCAM. DO NOT PURCHASE THEIR "EBOOK". IT IS JUST CONTENT THAT HAS BEEN STOLEN OFF THE INTERNET.

THEY HAVE BEEN SPAMMING THIS VIDEO REPEATEDLY AND IT HAS P'D ME OFF.

THUS CAPSLOCK.

THANK YOU

cough cough...

[introvertebrate]

You still spamming my videos? give it a break already.

I've never done this to anyone before but consider yourself BLOCKED!!!!

[introvertebrate]

lol... not likely... the gneral opinion of the free energy community is that magniwork is a scam. ^_^

sorry

[jacoscience1]

i am a beliver in permanent magnetic motors but i do not belive that you can get energy from a motor like this because the electricity you put in can't be under the energy you take out it's like saying if you hook one motor up to a genergator your going to get more energy from the generator enough to power the moter and more.

[skierplaterandy]

ok this makes sense now, howthen would i generate electricity? can you use electricity from the secondary (trigger) coil in charging the batterey aswell? and i suppose the one on top is a charging coil?

[introvertebrate]

Technically you can use the electricity in the trigger coil... in a sense we already are since nearly all the energy flowing through it is being converted to heat by the resistors...

but that isn't how the SSG works... the electrical output doesn't exceed the input, yet paradoxically the batteries charge far faster than the measurable energy they are receiving.

[skierplaterandy]

but wait, if its not exeeding the input, arent you wasting energy?

what is the watts in and watts out?

[introvertebrate]

the watts in and out will depend on the size of your machine, though generally the watts out is 25% of the watts in.

the electrical output doesn't exceed the input, yet paradoxically the batteries charge far faster than the measurable energy they are receiving.

[skierplaterandy]

so, are you gaining from that extra amount the batteries charge by?

and if so, how? is it charigng at a higher voltage then? i have seen videos with voltages out at around 170 volts. is that why?

[introvertebrate]

in a sense... by conventional physics batteries charge more efficiently with high current and with a voltage just above the voltage of the battery being charged... so charging a battery with high voltage would normally be less efficient than charging with high voltage.

[introvertebrate]

There are several stages in a single pulse from the ssg. First, there is a high voltage transient spike which exists for only microseconds... then the voltage almost instantly drops off to just above the charging battery's voltage. It is believed that the transient spike creates an event within the battery that allows energy from the vacuum to enter the system.  This is mostly based on Tesla and Heaviside's theories.

[introvertebrate]

"so charging a battery with high voltage would normally be less efficient than charging with high voltage. "

Correction :

so charging a battery with high voltage would normally be less efficient than charging with high *current*.

[hansgepunkt]

Is this result depending on circumstances like weather, location, phase of the moon etc.?

[introvertebrate]

there have been reports that the effect is influenced by the phases of the moon though I haven't seen confirmation of this.

Though many people have reported better charge at night than during the day.

[hansgepunkt]

ty for the answer.

i'm starting my own free energy research.

is a bedini-motor proper for beginners?

[introvertebrate]

bedini, in my opinion, is the best place to start since you can learn alot about the fundamentals of these technologies without complicated circuitry. Also, there are many people available with experience to help you along the way ^_^

[betushkah]

Try a rotoverter instead of this useless toy ..

[cool70200]

Heck if it works, I'd try to build one, but with so much controversy of the topic, hmm.

[sirtwizt]

just a thought... wouldn't this engine work much better if the rotor was parallel to the floor, so that it wasn't being pushed up against gravity? Or am I missing something.

[DarrkMatt3r]

Maybe gravity helps the momentum. but it does look cool horizontal

[compactimpact]

what do you think about Newman's motor.

[waldo2020]

total bullshit.

[joelito101]

In what do you base your insightful opinion? please, I want to know.

[TommeyReed]

cool..

[joelito101]

can this type of motor create enough energy to feed itself, creating a perpetual motor?

Like if it uses 9V, then it creates 50V, use an auto power switch or feed a battery, then it has a free 41V that can be used to power anything.

[lazzer408]

it has no overunity

[somedudeinva]

Voltage is not energy. Voltage means nothing in itself.

I can rub my hair against a blanket and generate 20,000 V. The current is practically zero however. A simple step-up transformer can easily create extremely high voltages from a household circuit. It is not, however, any more energy.

Think of it this way - a radio uses 120 V power. A powersaw does to. Yet the powersaw consumes 15A and dims the lights in your house, while the radio uses milliamps and does nothing.

[joelito101]

Yes I know, Voltage is the work done. But I'm trying to point out that if the charge stored in the battery can be switched when full or more energy has been moved then flip back and forth while needed.

[somedudeinva]

No, voltage is potential. Not work done. Work done is joules (or, more commonly, kWh).

You don't get it. If the system actually works it will run indefinitely. Where are all the continuously autonomous buzzing Bedini motors? They DON'T WORK. They CAN'T work. You cannot create energy out of nothing.

[joelito101]

I think that it can work, the idea has a mix of both electromagnetix fluxing and a static magnetic field.

If energy is what it is, there could be some sort of energy being pulled into the system and then turned into electricity. We are just using not ideal hardware.

we could get rid of most of the drag if we put the wheel in a vacuum and magnetically suspend it.

little by little we'll make this system as efficient as possible.

[somedudeinva]

It's not a matter of efficiency...

If it takes 100 pennies to make a dollar, it doesn't matter how I count the pennies, or how I accumulate them, if I don't have 100, I don't have a dollar. PERIOD.

[joelito101]

Of course it is, we'll just keep working at it until we have a self sustaining system, you can never get an optimist down.

I'm working on a theory where what we know as energy particles is not what we think they are, we are still thinking of matter as solid, we must find the edge of everything. What if energy is literally everywhere... and what we see as 'particles' is a 3d whirlpool of energy, that its properties depends which way it spins and how much energy it has.

this could explain it.

[somedudeinva]

That doesn't explain anything.

It doesn't matter how bouncy you make a ball, it cannot bounce to a height greater than it was dropped from. If it could, it would do so over and over until flying off into space. Absurd.

You work on your theories. Have fun with that. Let me know when you have something that stands up to scrutiny.

[joelito101]

I know it doesn't explain anything, that is why is a theory in progress. You are still thinking in 3 dimensions with your examples, there are more dimensions that we are not aware of and there is definitely something that makes some sense about this energy motors.

Anyways, you are right, for the rest of the populance that thinks like you: "won't believe until I see". I can't imagine a world with only your close mindedness, we are your balance...

[somedudeinva]

You can imagine anything you like, but unless it translates into workable reality, it's purely imagination.

[joelito101]

Well, at least your comment got a little more positive, its a start. I'll keep working on it, at least I'm doing something about it.

[sirtwizt]

bounce a ball of nitroglycerin. you will experience quite a bounce. think about it

[somedudeinva]

Are you being sarcastic? Or do you think that's an argument for a perpetually bouncing ball?

Even a ball that DID bounce like that would be deriving it's energy from a chemical process inside the ball - not from nothing at all.

[sirtwizt]

In the closed system of the bouncing ball you get more energy out than in. That is basically how we get all energy. So the point of free energy isnt to create energy from nothing, but get a lot of energy by putting a little energy in... from our point of view. But the energy comes from somewhere. Its complicated. Take a look at hyperdimensional physics and you will see what I'm getting at. I'm not trying to be a dick. Its just really complicated, and this is a small text comment.

[somedudeinva]

That's like saying my cell phone battery is a closed system. It's using stored energy later.  A nitroglycerin-filled ball takes chemical energy (which it cost us to make) and turns it into an explosion.

Hyperdimensional physics does not change anything. Don't blow me off with "it's complicated". I'm a literate scientist and I know BS when I see it.

[sirtwizt]

no system is closed. thats why i mention hyperdimensions. Therefore, systems are only ever "closed" in our imagination. So yes, the cell phone battery could be a closed system. That was my whole point. That's the whole point behind "free energy" systems. Shifting the parameters of the system.

[GManGT]

The walk along classroom.....LOL

[rippedwrangler]

My problem with some of those open systems is tha many of these people think that they are going to pull "vacuum energy" or "zero point energy) out of the fabric of the universe using trivial mechanical/electrical or chemical reactions, and the whole idea is ludicrous. First, physicists do not even believe that this is possible. 2nd, if it is possible, it would require extraordinary states of matter like superconductors and/or superfluids. Youtube is loaded with these nuts.

[introvertebrate]

hmmm... it is hard to argue against such scepticism.... but I will make two points.

Phycists do acknowledge it is possible.

and why do you think it would require extraodinary states of matter/superconductors/superfl­uids? Do you know a working circuit I don't know about ;)

I have seen enough evidence to convince myself and that is all I need. I am not out to convince anyone else, I just provide the means for them to find their own answers... you don't know unless you try.

[nathanielscott]

It is to bad that you just can't demonstrate such a device actually working and creating more power that it uses perpetually. I think James Randi would give you a million dollars (about 7 hundred thousad pounds) if you could do so.

[rippedwrangler]

..imagination be used in the calculation of work out/ work in

[introvertebrate]

I don't think anyone working in this field believes it is possible for the energy output to exceed the TOTAL energy input. That is impossible and would require over 100% efficiency, which, as you pointed out, couldn't occur. Every claimed over unity device I know of is designed to be open system. A closed system can not perform more work than the energy input.

[thzorg]

I'm pretty sure there isn't a motor out there today that gets over unity for one real reason. The magnets overtime lose power, this is an energy cost. I'm not saying that these motors can't be very effienct but saying they produce over unity or even close to unity would imply they could run forever. If that is the case, set one up in a public place (get a permit) and run it untouched. Parts will expire as well will the magnets. So effienct, yes.. Over unity probably not.

[introvertebrate]

You seem to be confusing terms... perpetual motion isn't a requirement for overunity.

[introvertebrate]

A refrigerator and an air conditioner are both over unity devices, but you can't expect one to run forever

[rippedwrangler]

You seem to be confused as well. Refrigeration is not an over unity process. I understand what you're saying, but you have to consider all of the energy inputs and ouputs. You are moving heat from one place to another, but you can't combine compressor energy usage and energy transferred to figure absolute efficiency; they are apples and oranges. It's analogous to, say, a 1/3 horsepower conveyor motor moving charged car batteries down the belt. The energy content of the batteries is irrelevant.

[introvertebrate]

I was using refridgerator as another example of a heat pump, which is an over unity device producing several times more heat than the energy required to run the pump. Yes, the energy is coming from an external source so its efficiency doesn't exceed 100% (that is impossible) but it's coefficient of performance can be over 1 which is what is important. Work in compared to work out.

[rippedwrangler]

We apparently have some difference in semantics. When most people say "over unity" they mean that the total energy output of a sytem exceeds the energy input. A refrigerator does not meet this requirement because friction and heating losses in the components and tubing cause the output to be less than the total energy put into the system. The only work is being done by the compressor. The energy that is "sucked" from inside the refrigerator and exhausted outside cannot by any stretch of the...

[gtcom4tube]

as if one is not stupid enough only when he thinks about himself that he's a genius

(clearly that you are using words without understanding. Get the scientific definitions and try some exercises: how do you compare heat and energy? why? define your "coefficient of performance")

[introvertebrate]

Heat and energy are synonymous and can be calculated in joules. However the amount of joules required to run a heat pump is normally several times less than the amount of joules being output by the heat pump... at least on the hot side.

This is why coefficient of performance is used to calculate the "efficiency" of open systems. Even if a heat pump is only 25% efficient electrically, it is still possible for it to output more than 100% of the energy required to run it.

[introvertebrate]

for example, let's say it takes 4 watts to run a heat pump that is 25% efficient. A very bad heat pump.

It would be wrong to assume that 1 watt of heat would be output by the heat pump, since it is drawing in energy from an external source that requires no extra work by the operator. Indeed, the total amount of watts being output by our 25% efficient 4 watt heat pump could well be over 5 watts.

Hey presto... "over unity".

[introvertebrate]

hmmm... you have appeared to have deleted your other comment. Though if you are wondering why 12.4v is chosen, then read up on lead acid batteries. When small 12v lead acid batteries go below 12v it can cause serious damage to the plates. So you don't want your batteries to go anywhere near 12v, and the safest operating range is between 13v and 12.4 volts. It is not because it is a pretty number, lol. Do you think it is pretty?

[gtcom4tube]

I think you said that a battery takes a certain amount of time to drop the voltage to 12.4V (in whatever conditions you measure it). You have compared amounts of time that is related to different batteries at different moments in time.

What's the point?

(Are you trying to imply something that looks scientific? Do you think "energy" again?)

Are you worrying that the plates get (or already are) damaged? Do you think that this would stop a dilettante to fantasize?

[introvertebrate]

Do you know how to calculate joules? If so tell me.

[gtcom4tube]

you should know yourself already (instead of settling with V) and realize what nonsense bedini motor is

[introvertebrate]

I had a feeling you didn't know.

First we measure the power it takes to run the motor. We get this by measuring the voltage and the amps and multiplying them to get the watts. Watts is a unit of power by the way.

Energy can only be calculated in joules. To calculate joules from watts you need to know the time the motor is using the watts.

Now we multiply the watts by the time the motor was running. This gives us the joules and voila... now we know the energy that was "consumed".

[introvertebrate]

then to find out how much energy was output by the motor we connect the now charged battery to a known load. I normally use a 50 ohm resistor. Using a known load we can then calculate the volts and amps and thus get watts. We then measure the time it takes for the battery to reach the point it started at before we began charging. Then using the time and watt measurements we can tehn calculate the joules output by the motor.

By comparing the joules in to the joules out we can calculate COP.

[introvertebrate]

oh... and as a side note our theoretical 25% efficient 4watt heat pump has a 1.2 COP (wink)

[gtcom4tube]

The refrigerator, whatever efficient it is, consumes(transfom) electrical energy (to move some heat/energy from one place to another).

The topic is bedini motor and so called harnesting of free energy, not the performance of household appliances.

Let's not compare irrelevant numbers and think that we master the universe.

[gtcom4tube]

yeah, both can be measured in Joules. But what's the relevance of that?

Why not build device that uses an electrical spark to blow up the roof of the house, then you'll have a heat pump when the sun is up (or a free water pump when it rains).

Will you invent a COP for the electrical spark in order to get over-enthusiast about a number that happens to be greater than 1?

[introvertebrate]

"yeah, both can be measured in Joules. But what's the relevance of that?"

You can't be serious...

[thzorg]

They do not output more power than they input thats simply isn't the case. Show the math.

[thegenrl]

word. oh any save yourself some time and skip to 3:05

[thzorg]

The term perpetual motion, taken literally, refers to movement that goes on forever.

Over unity means more energy out than in, energy cost from magenets is real energy. The issue is that perpetual motion and over unity machines are linked forever seeing as every crack pot in the world says they have one but then doesn't deliver. Feel free to submit a science paper on the topic for peer review to any science journal. Over unity needs to proven through math and not an old style magic trick.

[aaronjenkinson]

Thzorg, ignorance spills out of your mouth in abundance, you are trying to "disprove" something that A: works, B : does not need perpetual motion to work, and C: magnets can be recharged much like batterys, but it is simpler and does not involve electricity.

Overunity simply means, you get more power than you put in, not that it runs forever, please before posting, know hat you are talking about in the future,.

[JamesThWilliams]

If something produces more energy than it uses you are describing perpetual motion, it's the same flawed principal. Producing at least equal energy to what is required to run a device is the principal of perpetual motion. What you ae attempting to describe is going beyond perpetual motion using the same principals. Srupidity is the only explanation for your ignorant attacks on thzorg.

[somedudeinva]

It won't work because a Bedini motor is inherently not what it claims to be.  But have fun wasting your time rediscovering the same laws of nature the rest of science learned long ago.

[ps3rokz]

guyz plz HELP me URGENT

my transistor gets burnt all the time ;bedini motor not working.

my rotor and coil is perfect

what can be the fault

private message me the possiblities plzzz need your info

[introvertebrate]

are you using a neon bulb?

[ps3rokz]

no, no bulb is it necessary to use a bulb??"

[introvertebrate]

yeah, as I mentioned at the end of part two a neon bulb is essential to stop your transistors blowing up. ^_^ The neon bulb isn't essential for the motor to operate but it is needed as a safety feature in case the output voltage becomes to high... that will be what is frying your transistors.

[GentleManSteve65]

Not to wise on Generators so if you know if you pass a magnet over a coiled wire if it would produce current. I know if the magnet is inside the coil it produces an electrical current. I was thinking if you had copper wire coils all a the wheel as well it wouldn't interfere with it that much cause magnets aren't attracted to copper so you shouldn't have much drag and every time the magnets pass the coils it generates more current

[GentleManSteve65]

Why do you have to use Magnets? Why can't you use something like a coil on a Solenoid or like that is on relay switches?

I am thinking if you have a coil like that that and has a metal piece that goes in and out then you can have that turn the wheel. when the power is applied then it comes out or in not sure it will have something to turn the wheel. That way no power is lost cause with magnets if it pulses when the magnets isn't there that is power lost. Do you know what I am saying?

[introvertebrate]

Do a search for

Bedini solid state oscillator

your are absolutly right. The magnets are not required to run the coil but your overall COP will be greater if you use a rotor.

[GentleManSteve65]

I watched all your video and I was mistaken about the magnets cause you have it setup to only apply the electrical pulse when the magnets are in place.

[aminor7]

Volts are only part of the picture. You need to be measuring watts. Volts are units of force, watts are units of energy.

[ianrbell]

SCARY. My latest developmental prototype produced 15.88 volts at the secondary battery.

[sbwats]

Not knowing much about the bedini motors, and with no answer given after a month of waiting, i am left to assume that the bedini motor does no more than sit there and 'spin' for an undetermined amount of time with no real practical applications or uses. Someone convince me otherwise.

[dellguru1]

Build one the size of your car. Im sure you will find fun things to do with that.

[t3hpwnzerer]

lol that is basically if you know nothing of how to leech energy (so to speak) from moving objects. there are different arragements of orientations of parts of bedini motors (i know, not the greatest grammar there, but anyways) and with the right arrangement you could concievably extend an axis from the rotor or take advantage of an existing one and attach either a magnet or a coil of wire (or even a gear, although the load may be too great) to it...

[t3hpwnzerer]

...and have a secondary unit, which is not physically connected to the axis itself (unless you have a gear on it), that has the approriate reciprocal item on it. ideally the magnet would be on the axis of the bedini rotor, and a coil of wire would be on the secondary unit. this interaction of the two parts, when placed correctly by each other, will work like the bedini motor itself, using a magnetic force to move electrons through the coil of wire on the secondary unit, creating a current!!! :D

[t3hpwnzerer]

and if you do not know what do do after that, then i understand whay you asked the question in the first place :D

[SteveNordqu]

Citation needed. Clearly this is how Creation Science Institutes should be powered.

The Golden Hours (before sunset/rise!) offer great light and help prevent hideous shot-into-light issues. Especially you know, if you could make or find a nicer locale to shoot in by coddling some sage. Then make your circuit theory not suck and fry itself.

[sbwats]

If i build one, what can i hope to power up with it?. Is it possible to build one that will power up a string of led lights?. Would love to build one with a practical purpose.

[nowplanb]

I'm dreaming of a one coil pulse motor that mimics the bedini and costs less to produce. Here's how it works. There is a tiny hole in the wheel that light can pass through. Hmm. A textbook 555 circuit and between R2 and the capacitor goes a common photo resistor, and it goes on one side of the wheel. On the other side there is a little light. When the hole passes the wheel the 555 becomes a one shot(it won't do anything until the light hits the photo resistor).

[meesphht]

what?!! unfortunately it's not working at the moment?!!! Cutttttt! How can anyone give this a 2 star rating? but these people are giving it a 5!!! why!!!

[introvertebrate]

haha... check out my other vids

[living4game]

Hello dear Friend could you help me?

- what if you make second wheel and put another side of coil!

- is it recieve DC and generete AC power?

-if i assemble multible coil, do i still need transistors?i cannot find here.

- i gues transistors only key for circiut! can i use limit swithc instead of transistors?

i found the best swtiches. when its close it is reverse the poles.

- will it work without battery? forexample i will start with drill!

Best regards and success for all !

[ultimatequest]

hey i am using hydrogen gas in my desiels with good results buit i get bored with just bon thing i want to ask is it possible to build a pulse motor /newman motor / bendie motor that will run if made large enough to power a house using a generatoer wi

[crisdanae09]

Hi,How i have to select the size of the magnetos???

[AdamsMotorGenerator]

This motor generator type is not from bedini, but from Adams, the real genius. Bedini copy the motor and create a patent with it. If you want overunity you have to look to adams. My Adams motor replication runs overunity at about 250v and 0,029A and runs cold. Automatic swap batteries and Self running at about one year!

[eostudy]

Would you mind teach me how to swap batteries ?

thanks so much.

[Terminchiator]

waitwaitwaitwaitwait

is it simply a brushless motor?

[introvertebrate]

it is a motor that is brushless but it isn't the same as the brushless motors that are common in the RC hobby. You could say it is simply a pulse motor wired in a cunning way ^_^

[renderrob]

What is happening with the website? I have not been able to access it for a while. You may want to update the text for the video desc.

[introvertebrate]

lol... sorry... I changed part 2 last week but forgot to change part one... I have set up a forum for discussion though may be changing hosts soon as I am not happy with my current one!

The new link is in the description.

[wadchado]

Where can I get some snake oil?

[introvertebrate]

Apparently you can still get it in Marrakech.

[Drevtoobe]

"Even a poorly built ssg should get at least 0.7 COP..."

May I ask what things are you counting on the "generation" (output) side to produce a typical COP of 0.7? I'm assuming the "source" (input) side is simply the power put out by the source battery.

[introvertebrate]

Don't fully understand the question. What am I counting on? You mean how do i get that figure?

Load testing.

[Drevtoobe]

Can you define the "load testing"? I am trying to understand where the 0.7 COP comes from.

Are you saying that the COP = (load testing)/(source battery power)?

[introvertebrate]

What I mean is, if you run the motor until the primary battery is down to 12.4 volts then swap the batteries, the motor should run for *at least* 70% of the time the original battery did until it reaches 12.4 volts. Then swap them again. The ssg is the load.

[Drevtoobe]

Okay, with a simple example, supposing it takes 100 minutes for the primary battery to go from 12.6 to 12.4 volts, then you swap the batteries and if the "new" primary battery takes 70 minutes to go from 12.6 to 12.4 volts, then the COP = 0.7.

Assuming that I am understanding you correctly, then perhaps we can pick up this discussion at another time. The methodology for the COP calculation that people are using is incorrect, and we can discuss it later.

[Nickzwensky]

Sorry pardon me my ignorance, what is 0.7 cop ?

[introvertebrate]

COP stands for Coefficient Of Performance... it is similar to an efficiency rating. If you put 1 unit of energy into a "device" and it "generates" 1 unit of energy then it is said to have a COP of 1. if it produced 1 unit of energy for every 2 unit spent then it has a COP of 0.5 . However it isn't the same as efficiency. It is impossible to have an efficiency over 100% but it is possible to have a COP over 1. A heat pump is normally over COP 1.

[Nickzwensky]

well, a bit disapointed, I doubted if the energy could be created, so far there is no indication that there is any surplous energy being deliverd, if anything it is just a fraction (may be 0.001%) under unity.The back emf generated by the coils isn't enough to replenish what has been utilised, still my quest to search for alternative energy will remain as I am so worried about depletion of fossile fuels, in 25 to 50 years tyere won't be any left.

[introvertebrate]

How did you make your measurements?! The results you are getting are almost impossibly low! Even a poorly built ssg should get at least 0.7 COP...

[Nickzwensky]

I am going to test the results on a good discharged battery, and then put it on a charge and see how long it takes to cahrge a 12V 60Ah battery with input rate of 2.5watts and according to my calculations a 60Ah at 12Volts would take 288 hours at a rate of 2.5 watts, but this over unity should take far less, so we will see and I will post my results here. I can also make a comparrison test with a normal car battery charger, as to how long does that take at 5 amp charging rate

[Nickzwensky]

I wired another coil in paralell with the main driving coil, this coil does not drive the wheel,it is just to get more back EMF to give me a stronger charging pulse, The pulse is now 4mS wide and before it was 3mS and occurs every 22mS. additional coil must have an iron core. Torque is strong, resist stalling even when you exert pressure.I have used 8 magnets, I used both poles side by side, i.e. I used both Norh & South pole as pair of magnets, and it seemed to make it a bit stronger in torque.

[Nickzwensky]

I have just finished making one, its drawing 2.5Watts power, at the moment I am using my Bench powersupply and at 13Volts its drawing just 190mA (2.5Watts) 13 x 0.19 = 2.5watts

The charging pulse is strong, I have put a red led in series to give me a charging indicator, works brilliant, at the moment I have a completly nakkered battery so I will test it on a proper discharged car battery.

By the way I used BD679 Darlington transistor and .......to be continued..

[phoebus1966]

luv ur talk - i mean, this is really looking genuine - back to the old days of grassroots power we're the people are making the change, not some corrupt governing body. And the tech talk is educative and clear. Top!

[thebestofall007]

how powerful is this motor? have you put it under a load and tested the performance?

[introvertebrate]

to be honest the motor (at least with just one coil) doesnt have very much torque.

i know one motor with a bike wheel for the rotor (though with the same sized coil) has enough torque to turn a fan that normally uses a 1HP motor...

I havent done any tests to see how much torque is in my rotor... more interested in the batteries ^_^ but there isn't very much torque.

[crippled82]

still havent seen bedini motor doing overunity,

as in, more energy in batteries than used

[introvertebrate]

some have managed overunity others havent...

my single coil motor was running with 250ma on 7.2amp hour batteries so the batteries only had enough energy to run the motor for 29 hours but instead it ran for a week and then the bearings fell apart! lol

my current "self runner" has been running on 950ma with 7.2ah batteries for the last 20 hours. thats almost 3 times more energy than is in the batteries.

[RockManAU]

Congratulations! Most do not understand the real magic happens in the batteries, but you do! For this reason tho, new batt.s are best to use (condition), but like most of us secret underground lab owners we use whatever Egor can bring home at night! ;)

Thx for the vids.

[introvertebrate]

you are absolutly right. Definatly best to start with fresh batteries.

Though I am in need of some seriously heavy duty batteries to run my current motor and having to consider second hand ones and then condition them with the "energiser". Igor (bless him) tried to make a 30Ah battery out of lemons but i think lead acid ones are in order! ^_^

screw it... just have to save up!

[RockManAU]

Yeah, know what you mean!

Try a visit to your local battery shop/s and ask for some 'dead' batts for a project your are doing. They may give you 4 of which anywhere from 1 to 3 are usable... Egor can't do this cause as soon as he walks up, the guys just run! Also I am going to try talking to the Golf Clubs... Loooong Ah Batts here! Good Luck Man

[introvertebrate]

Hey! Golf clubs! That is a really good idea! They could well have some old Golf cart batteries! They are always around 20 - 30 ah! Perfect!

[ray0energy]

nice video. well i have also no secret underground lab because its way up sea level:-)

can u tell me what program u ar using to edit ur videos i like the way u can put pic in to it.

[introvertebrate]

i'm using Power Director but Windows Movie Maker can do that too.