Keith Moore did not convert to Islam. He's just a transparent Charlton who would say anything in order to get his book deal. If you still think it's true then plz provide evidence that he converted to Islam. Show me Keith saying in his own words ''i am now a Muslim'' you won't find it.
@AProudMuslim786 Very simple. If you find out that the Qu'ran was divinely inspired as this video is claiming that Keith did. What do you think he's gonna do the following day, go to the mosque. However this video has been purposely edited to make these scientist say things that they actually didn't say and wrote letters days after saying so.Here from there own mouth
@AProudMuslim786 As for Keith Moore. This video is cleary stating that he became a muslim when he found scientific miracles in the Qu'ran. The fact that he didn't convert shows that he didn't believe the supposed miracle claims and wasn't impressed by any of them which makes this video pure propaganda for the ignorant young Muslim looking to validate his religion.
I know Muslims have an inferiority complex. I know they want to be proud of their religion. But why lie?
Prof. Moore has not written a single book on science in the Koran. He has not presented anything by himself to anyone on the Koran. He is still a Christian and has had nothing to do with the Koran for 10 or 12 years - according to himself.
He's just laughing at gullible Muslims who take ONE statement as being true and disregard millions of others, who say the opposite. Selective reality?
@AProudMuslim786 Are you still a proud Muslim now you see that Samikhali1 lied? If your belief system needs you to lie about it, then it is worthless. If I were you, I would be more distancing yourself from this, not supporting it.
@AProudMuslim786 Since he is urging you to see his series, and to see the thousands of pages explaining such errors, why do you even bother to tell him that he can't name one?
What good is it to pretend that he can't find any, when it's a 0.14 second Google search away from him AND you?
@athanasiadis24 lol i have infact been on those sites, those people who think Quran is a error, have not even studied the Arabic, lol DR ZAKIR NIAK debated athiest why dont you see his videos? i just cant wait to see what this idiot says, i just want him to try and pull one error atleast so then i can reply to him.
@AProudMuslim786 Why on Earth would anyone care to waste the time to learn an otherwise useless language just because some idiots tell him that he can't criticise a book because he does't know the original Arabic?
That's what translations are for, and that's the reason why there's so many of them. It is suspicious that Muslims keep saying that you must know Arabic...
@athanasiadis24 lol, Arabic is not like English... Its complex, i have been learning Arabic for so long, its hard to get into it and learn it all, but for example i have taken French in high school for my GCSE and i have allready got an A* and i learnt most of it faster that Arabic. Basically im trying to say is that the translation is there for the people who dont understand Arabic, but to learn the FULL meaning you must learn and study the Quran.
1 CHRONICLE 16:30 Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved.
THIS SAY IT CANNOT BE MOVED BY MEN.
Psalm 93:1 The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed in majesty and armed with strength; indeed, the world is established, firm and secure.
@DictaduraNo123 Hahaha. I gave you 4 clear verses in the bible where it PLAINLY says that the earth was FIRMLY FIXED and IMMOVABLE! And now you started claiming that the Bible say that because it was implying that Earth cannot be moved by Man!
@juujuubie HA HA HA...I DON'T BELIVE IN RELIGIOUS BOOKS. BUT SHOW ME A TEXT IN THE QURAN WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE EARTH IS MOVING? NONE. THE QURAN TALKS ABOUT THE "OBSERVABLE ORBIT OF THE SUN AROUND THE EARTH" BUT IT DOESN'T MENTION THE ORBIT OF THE EARTH. JUST SHOW ME A TEXT IN THE QUURAN WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE EARTH IS MOVING...? NONE
THE QURAN IS SUCH AN UNSCIENTIFIC BOOK THAT IT CONFUSES STARS WITH SHOOTING STARS. THEY THOUGHT THAT THE SHOOTING STARS YOU CAN SEE AT NIGHT WERE ONLY THE STARS YOU SAW AT NIGHT THAT WOULD FALL. THAT IS WHY IN 67:5 IT SAYS THAT "STARS ARE MISSILES TO SHOOT THE DEMONS". BUT STARS ARE HUGE SUNS, BIGGER THAN OUR EARTH. THAT IS HOW IDIOTIC AND UNSCIENTIFIC THE QURAN IS. THE SAME STUPID STATEMENT IS REPEATED IN 37:6-8
WHERE IS SAYS THAT "STARS ARE USED TO BE THROWN AGAINST DEMONS WHO COME TO HEAVEN"
@LauraDurkay some people may want to keep a low profile, especially if they are living in a very secular country like France! He need to think of his wife and children too. The fact is he wrote and say good things about islam more than most muslims ever do in a hundred year!
@LauraDurk KEITH MORE AND BUCAILLE ONLY WANTED TO MAKE MONEY BY SAYING WHAT MUSLIMS WANTED TO HEAR. THEY WORKED IN SAUDI ARABIA AND KNEW THEY COULD SELL BOOKS TO FOOLISH MUSLIMS BUT NO SERIOUS DOCTOR COULD EVER SAY THAT EMBRYOLOGY IN THE QURAN IS SOMETHING SCIENTIFIC. THE QURAN REPEATS WHAT THE GREEK DOCTOR GALEN SAID EVEN HIS MISTAKES, THAT "FIRST CAME THE BONES AND THEN THESES BONES WERE CLOTHED WITH FLESH". THERE ARE NO BONES IN AN EMBRYO BUT CARTILAGE AND IT DOENST START WITH A CLOT OF BLOOD
MUSLIMS ARE SUCH FOOLS. THE QURAN IS FULL OF ABURDITIES: STARS ARE MISSILES TO SHOOT THE DEVIL, 67:5. THERE ARE 7 HEAVENS AND THE STARS ARE IN THE CLOSEST ONE, 41:12, THERE IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE SUN SET AND ANOTHER WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE SUN RISE AS IF THE EARTH WAS FLAT, 18:83-90...I COULD GO ON AND ON.. BUT THEY FIND POEPLE LIKE BUCAILLE OR MOORE, WHO LIVED IN SAUDI ARABIA AND WANTED TO MAKE MONEY BY TELLING MUSLIMS WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR AND THEY FOOLISHLY BELIEVE IT
@DictaduraNo123 ( you said : MUSLIMS ARE SUCH FOOLS. THE QURAN IS FULL OF ABURDITIES: STARS ARE MISSILES TO SHOOT THE DEVIL ) Maybe it's the SHOOTING STARS ! And maybe these are just some of the unseen that cannot be seen by human eyes just like the heaven and hell or angels and devils or God himself. When something cant be explained yet in islam, muslims will just keep quiet. BUT STILL this unexplainable things are more like metaphor, its not some simple clear cut contradiction like the bible!
@DictaduraNo123 For example the bible clearly say that the earth is fixed and not moving, this is one such clear cut statement that is DIRECT contradiction with science. Even if we want to call this a mataphor, the statement is just too clear cut and we just find it too hard to believe that the Bible might mean another thing! The Quran does not have any clear cut contradiction like this, most of them are just metaphor but many too seem to agree much with science too!
@juujuubie YOU SAY THE BIBLE SAY THAT THE EARTH IS FIXED AND NOT MOVING BUT YOU GIVE NO SOURCE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BIBLE SAY THAT THE EARTH IS A "CIRCLE" :
Isaiah 40:21-22 It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in
@DictaduraNo123 And by the way , the verse 67.5 in the Quran NEVER EVEN wrote the word 'star' in it! Star in arabic is 'Najm' and there's not a single 'Najm' on that verse! The only word that Quran talks in relation with the missiles is the word 'Lamps'. Of course we cannot put lamps on the sky, so, obviously this is just a clear metaphor! And the word missiles could be the metaphor for shooting stars or meteorite too! and the source of this meteorite could have come from an exploding stars too!
@juujuubie ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT WHEN THE QURAN TALKS ABOUT STARS IT IS NOT REFERRING TO WHAT YOU SEE AT NIGHT IN THE SKY??? HA HA HA HA.......PLEASE. ADMIT IT. THE QURAN IS NOT SCIENTIFIC
@juuj ABSURDITIES: ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THE STARS ARE "LAMPS" AND NOT HUGE SUNS. THEY ARE ALSO MISSILES AGAINST THE DEVIL. NOTICE THAT THE QURAN SAYS THAT THERE ARE 7 HEAVENS, ANOTHER ANCIENT, FALSE BELIEF PROVED WRONG CENTURIES AGO, 41:12, AND THAT STARS ARE LOCATED IN THE CLOSEST HEAVEN.
67:5 And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire
@DictaduraNo123 (1) Chapter 57 in the Quran is called "The Iron" in Arabic (Al-Hadeed). The word (Al-Hadeed) in Arabic has a gematrical value (numerical value for each arabic letter) of 57, the same as the Chapter number in which it is mentioned.
The gematrical value of the Arabic word "Hadeed" (iron) WITHOUT the "Al" (the) is 26. In the Periodic Table of Elements, the 26th element is IRON (Fe) meaning the number of protons in the iron nucleus is 26.
@DictaduraNo123 (2) The word 'Iron' itself is only mentioned in verse 25 of this chapter. If we count the word God(ALLAH) mentioned in the very first verse of this Chapter right till the verse where the word 'Iron' was present, You will get exactly 26 word GOD(ALLAH). And 26 is the Atomic number of iron!
And take note also that Chapter 57 is the CENTER of the Quran (because Quran total chapter 114/2 = 57) And what is absolutely abundant in the CORE or the CENTER of the earth? IRON again!!
@juujuubie HA HA HA...MUSLIMS ALWAYS LET THEIR IMAGINATION RUN WILD. HOW CAN THE QURAN TALK ABOUT IRON IN THE CORE OF THE EARTH WHEN IT SAYS STH AS STUPID AS THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT, THAT "STARS ARE MISSILES TO SHOOT THE DEMONS" AND THAT "THERE ARE 7 HEAVENS"", AND OLD, FALSE BELIVE OF MUHAMMED'S TIME THAT HAS BEEN PROVED WRONG FOR CENTURIES. THE QURAN HAS ONLY THE PTOLOMAIC VISION OF THE UNIVERSE THAT THOUGHT THAT THE HEAVEN WAS DIVIDED IN 7 BECAUSE OF THE 7 OBSERVABLE MOVING OBJECTS IN THE SKY
@juujuub ABSURDITIES: ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THERE WAS A MAN WHO COULD UNDERSTAND THE SPEECH OF ANTS. THIS IS MORE LIKE A FAIRY TALE SINCE ANTS COMMUNICATE THROUGH CHEMICAL TRAILS, 27:18-19
At length, when they came to a (lowly) valley of ants, one of the ants said: "O ye ants, get into your habitations, lest Solomon and his hosts crush you (under foot) without knowing it."
So he smiled, amused at her speech; and he said: "O my Lord! so order me that I may be grateful for Thy favours......
@juujuubie ABSURDITIES: THE QURAN PRESENTS THE PTOLEMAIC MODEL OF THE UNIVERS OF MUHAMMED'S TIME. THE 7 HEAVENS WAS AN ANCIENT CONCEPT THAT HAS LONG BEEN PROVED WRONG. MUSLIMS CLAIM TODAY THAT IT IS THE LAYERS OF THE ATMOPHERE BUT 41:12 TELL US THAT "STARS ARE LOCTED IN THE CLOSEST HEAVEN", AND HERE WE SEE THAT THE MOON AND SUN TOO, 71:15-16
See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another, and made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (Glorious) Lamp?
@juujuubie ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THERE IS A PLACE WHERE THE SUN SETS AND RISES AS IF THE EARTH WAS FLAT, 18:83-90
They ask thee concerning Zul-qarnain...We gave him the ways and the means to all ends.One (such) way he followed, until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! ...Then followed he (another) way, until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom.....
No he never wrote a single book on the science in the Quran, that is a lie...i dont think he's muslim becuase i saw a recent interview with him and not once did he mention the quran even though he had MANY chances to. You can find this interview easily by searching his name on google where you come across a biography website about Keith Moore...again not once in his biography does he even mention the quaran despite mentioning his achievments in embrilogy
Keith Moore merely said what his host and benefactor wanted him to. There is no official 'shahadah' statement from Dr. Moore, so conversion is a gross overstatement. Why not write him personally and ask rather than make outrageous claims on YouTube?
@drdavey777 Fair enough, we havever heard an official statement of shahadah from him. But I think it's you're now becoming a little outrageous in claiming he only said what his hosts 'wanted him to'. What, like there was a gun put to his head? A bribe? I don't think so. He willingly studied the Qur'an and Hadith in Saudi Arabia for 4 years. Fact. THEN he said those things. I don't think anyone's forcing him here, nor is he working on behalf of some random Muslim students.
@TheResonate@TheResonate Four whole years in KSA exlusively devoted to Quran and Hadtihs? Where do you get these facts? I just reviewed Dr. Moore's CV and nowhere does it claim a 4 year sabbatical in KSA. Where is your evidence? This document makes no mention of KSA. Can you please explain? I think you are victim to some very suspect claims and you need to research more before you post.
@drdavey777 I understand that it his not in his CV in anatomy and embryology. But when someone write something in their own book, well, it's hard to call it 'force'. The following is a direct quote from 'Moore, Keith L. and al-Zindani, Abdul-Majeed A., 'The Developing Human with Islamic Additions', Third Edition, W.B. Saunders Company, Philadelphia, 1982'. This was co-written. If you deny this, then it is clear that you simply refuse to believe it rather than fail to.
@drdavey777 "For the past three years, I have worked with the Embryology Committee of King cAbdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, helping them to interpret the many statements in the Qur'an and Sunnah referring to human reproduction and prenatal development. At first I was astonished by the accuracy of the statements that were recorded in the 7th century AD, before the science of embryology was established. Although I was aware of the glorious history of Muslim scientists... ctd
@TheResonate "...in the 10th century AD, and some of their contributions to Medicine, I knew nothing about the religious facts and beliefs contained in the Qur'an and Sunnah." Happy? Tell me if you need any more direct quotes my friend. Remember I used his textbooks as medical references when I studied dentistry in Hungary. ;) All the best.
@TheResonate of his profile in his own words as well as a link to his CV and an hour long interview. Read the CV carefully - no where does it mention a 3 year sabbatical in KSA. Indeed at the time of that video (mid 1908s I believe), he was wearing so many admin hats at U Toronto in addition to his research/writing/teaching. The only ref to the Quran thing is in his exhuastive publications list. By the way I have hios North American addition of COA (2006) and no mention of Quran/Hadith.
@TheResonate I suppose like any writer, the forwards are tailored to the audience. After all, you need to make sure the religious authorities in KSA and elsewhere are not offended by the non-mention of their precious Quran/Hadith. Also note in his CV - he makes mentions of his public service to the United Church in Toronto. No mosque is mentioned nor any reference to other Islamic organizations. Odd that a convert would miss the opportunity.
@TheResonate Lastly, how come not a single Canadian based Mosque has claimed Dr. moore as an a past or active member of their fold? The silence is deafening. It seems to me that Moore is a very modest fellow and probably wishes to keep his own beliefs to himself. This YouTube video is wrong, inappropriate and misleading. Lest Dr. Moore himself makes a public statement of his Muslim faith, I consider the matter moot and the poster of the video should take it down.
@TheResonate You misread the statement. Look at his statement CARFEULLY: " I have worked with the Embryology Committee of King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia" Does this mean he spent 3 years in Jeddah studying Quran/Hadith? I seriously this guy had the time to waste on silly religious writings when he was so busy person at U Toronto. Take a peek at his profile on wiki - it is a horrible write-up, but at the bottom is a link (first in list). Click there to access a write up.....
non muslim hater, there are no claims to be made against the quran keith moore or no keith moore, the quran is perfect. many scientists have converted to islam, many people continue to convert to islam over all other relegions for a reason. its desperation when people attempt to attack it when not one has been successful in proving anything in the quran as being an error, all false claims. it is the most highly praised book in the world, unaltered and memorised by millions.
Anyone converting to Islam or converting from Islam do not honour or degrade Islam in any way, any individual's accpeptance of Islam is for his own good.
@mysupermail He's reading some B.S. off a card in the video you linked. He was paid ca$h to spout that garbage.
Why is he keeping it hidden so well today if he is or ever was a Muslim? Why not proudly proclaim how it has enriched his life? Why is a cheap, grainy video from decades ago all we have?
Why doesn't he end the controversy once and for all?
Of course, if THEY CLAIM he became a Muslim, but then he say's he is not, he could be murdered. And yet he doesn't confirm that he is...hmm.
@OptimisticCynic715 Dear!!! To be a Muslim all you need is bear the witness that “there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His messenger” which Prof. Moore clearly stated in the video sg5aVgwN_2E&NR=1. This is enough for someone to call him a Muslim. Your statement that “He was paid ca$h” has no proof just like if I say that he is now being paid ca$h or pressurized to keep himself hidden and not declare it in public that he is Muslim.
@mysupermail "all you need is bear the witness that “there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His messenger” which Prof. Moore clearly stated in the video sg5aVgwN_2E&NR=1."
Could you tell me the time where he says, "there is no god but Allah"? I must have missed it.
It seems a very simple statement to remember and make, especially if you are a passionate believer. It doesn't seem like you would have to stutter it off of a card.
Looks like he was duped into saying what he did. Poor guy.
@OptimisticCynic715 (cont.) "just like if I say that he is now being paid ca$h or pressurized to keep himself hidden and not declare it in public that he is Muslim."
If it was that easy to shut him up he wouldn't be much of a Muslim would he?
And why would they want to shut him up? Canadian government is dhimmi, anxious and hungry to lick Muslim feet. They'd probably give him a parade for bragging about Islam. Why would he be so ashamed?
@OptimisticCynic715 The thing you are missing here is that to be a Muslim requirement is not for someone to bear this witness word by word. It is very clear from the video that he believes in Allah. What happens after that, where is he now, what is his belief now is something I do not know and I can’t comment on that. But as far as from this video he was a Muslim at that point of time declaring his belief.
actually he did NOT convert, despite making these remarks. i am sure that he was paid, and paid well, to say this nonsense. If he really believed it, he would have converted, which (as i said) he did not.
btw, you may also find it interesting that osama bin laden was one of the financers of the muslim version of his text book
The book that Moore wrote that they ALWAYS rely on for this bullshit claim was 'updated and amended' by a group of Muslim scholars in an Islamic edition. What a shame that they have adjusted and misrepresented the facts in order to lie to other Muslims about the contents of the Qur'an. These people will stop at nothing to spread this poison, even lying to their own should they even dare to question its content.
Dr. Keith Moores lies for money, he has a complete opposite oppinion in his own book written after this declaration, has he changed his idea after collecting other information ?
put these two words in a search engine "derafsh embryology" and you will find a complete explanation with all references, of Moores writtings and where the Koran gets its wrong information from.
If we are to believe the famous hadith collections (and most Sunni scholars seem to consider them authoritative) the so-called prophet Muhammad was capable of cruel and vindictive deeds. The Q itself also amply illustrates the flawed character of the Meccan would be: a chapter devoted to curse his aunt and uncle, the very convenient 'revelation' that to M, already on his sixth wife, the limit of 4 does all of a sudden not apply, and of course verses like the infamous 9:29. Be a man, apostatize!
@BesACB show me proof that the famous hadith collections was capable of cruel n vindictive deeds? n which 1 shows devotion 2 curse prophet's aunt n uncle?The limit of 4 doesnt apply to him because he is Maksum(clean from sins) n he is not the same as us who could not resist temptations n lusts...he married those 12 because of valid reasons which i would explain to u next..
@BesACB Khadijah is the first wife n there's nothing wrong with it...Saodah n Salama, widows, were 65 years old when he married them(how contra with the fulfilment of lust towards a granny?), Zainab was very old as well n his husband killed in UHUD war(a gratitude for his husband's sacrifice that the family later were taken care by prophet)
@BesACB Juayria is a prisoner during the battle of Mustalaq n her rich father came to pay ransom. Prophet asks Juayria to decide whether to embrace Islam or to pay, as she came from a wealthy family, she could simply pay but she refused. Then to guide her to be more pious Muslims, prophet married her! Hafsah is the daughter of his companion, Umar and this strengthen their relationship :), the rest were also widows n i'm very certain that u'll question his marriage with Saidatina Aishah R.A.
@BesACB as for Aisyah, it is base on sociopolitical reason which is 2 strengthening rlation with Abu Bakr family. Secondly, the fact that `Aisha, before the Prophet proposed to her, was being pursued by Jubair ibn Mut`am, indicates that she was mature enough for marriage, according to the prevailing tradition at that time, if not, the Quraish people, who would never waste any chance 2 insult the Prophet SAW, would have found this marriage as a golden opportunity 2 pour on him rain of insults.
@BesACB Rather they found nothing wrong in this engagement, and they received the news of the Prophet’s proposal for `Aisha as something usual, and even, expected. After the passage of many centuries, we find now some Orientalists who try to strike a comparison between the conditions of our present time and what was existing 1400 years ago. They are trying to apply the criterions of the Western society to that society that existed in the Arabian Peninsula very long ago.
@BesACB It should be noted that in the hot regions, it’s normal for a girl 2 attain maturity at a very early age. Thus the case is totally different from that which does exist in the cold regions where a girl does not attain puberty before 21.Had it been true that the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, aimed at fulfilling a lust or satisfying a desire, he would have done this while still in his youth when he was still free from the responsibilities of delivering Allah’s call.
@BesACB At his early age, the Prophet,SAW, accepted to marry Khadija, who was 15 years older than him. He also never married a new wife until after her death. Thirdly Aisya is a very brilliant woman that she can easily comprehend a thing, by marrying prophet SAW, she can directly put prophets words or deeds into hadeeth n it was evident that most people(men or women) refer to her on many things.
@BesACB the case of sura 9:29, which deals with Jews and Christians. Fighting them is mentioned after the clarification regarding fighting the idolaters (9:5). This verse (9:29) was revealed when Muhammad was commanded to fight the Byzantines and prepared the expedition to Tabuk. Ibn Kathir declared: The order is to fight the People of the Book until they pay the jizyah (protection tax) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.
@BesACB Had they been true believers in their religions, that faith would have directed them to believe in Muhammad because all prophets commanded them to obey and follow him. Yet when he was sent, they disbelieved in him even though he is the "mightiest of all messengers because it suits their desires and lusts, and because they disbelieved in the master, the mightiest, the last of all prophets. He continues: "This honorable verse was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book.
@frh88 "Had they been true believers in their religions, that faith would have directed them to believe in Muhammad" The terrible arrogant warped logic of belief.
@BesACB Had they been true believers in their religions, that faith would have directed them to believe in Muhammad because "all prophets commanded them to obey and follow him" including Jesus ;) Please note that to believe in Muhammad doesnt mean to be "Muhammadanism", it is solely referring to the teachings he brought n the teachings of former prophets taught, divinely from the word of God, in that time, Muhammad SAW(May Allah bless him) is the prophet after Jesus A.S(May Allah bless him)
@BesACB Had they been true believers in their religions, that faith would have directed them to believe in Muhammad because "all prophets commanded them to obey and follow him" including Jesus ;) Please note that to believe in Muhammad doesnt mean to be "Muhammadanism", it is solely referring to the teachings he brought n the teachings of former prophets taught, divinely from the word of God, in that time, Muhammad SAW(May Allah bless him) is the prophet after Jesus A.S(May Allah bless him)
@BesACB It is because only Muhammad remains, the non-Muslims should refer to him if they are the true believers of "Jesus, Moses,David,Adam n another 20 prophets where their teachings convey the same messages throughout the years, as I said earlier there are huge time lag between Jesus(A.S) n Muhammad SAW that cause the corruptness of Bible n that's y they should believe on Muhammad's teaching now, that it's solely came from GOD!!!!!
@BesACB In Sahih Bukhari "Khadeejah then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah ibn Nawfal ibn Asad ibn AbdulUzza, who, during the pre-Islamic period became a Christian and used to write in the Hebrew alphabet. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write.
@BesACB He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadeejah said to Waraqah, "Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqah asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" Allah's Apostle described that which he had seen. Waraqah said, "This is the one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live until the time when your people will turn you out."
@BesACB Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they drive me out?" Waraqah replied in the affirmative and said, "Anyone (man) who came with something similar to that which you have brought was greeted with hostility; and if I remain alive until the day when you will be turned out then I should SUPPORT you strongly."
@BesACB However, he remained christians.He must be amongst those who disbelieved inspite of knowing the truth. As said it was clear in the Books abt the signs of this Prophet. Abt first person. Warqah bin Naufal accepted Muhammad {pbuh} as a prophet. :) As Allah says in Qur'an - "And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah (i.e. Muhammad ) confirming what was with them, a party of those who were given the Scripture threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know"
@BesACB Nowhere does the Quran say that God prefers Muhammad to all his other messengers. There are verses in the Quran that speak of God preferring messengers or prophets to others. Thus in chapter 2, Al-Baqarah, verse 253, God speaks of some of the messenger He has favored over others. He refers to Moses by inference but mentions Jesus by name and says that He granted him the clear signs and that He supported him with the Holy Spirit.
@BesACB The other verse dealing with God's preferring or favoring prophets 2 others is in chapter 17:55. Here God states that He favors some prophets over others and that He granted David, mentioning him by name, the Psalms. There is no mention of Muhammad anywhere near the preference verses. DoesThisMeanThat God favors Jesus or David to all others?God is free 2 prefer whomever He will of His servants, but we given clear instructions in 2:285, that we'r not 2 make distinction among e messengers.
@BesACB Ibn Kathir continues: "This honorable verse was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book. After the pagans were defeated, the people entered God's religion in large numbers, and the Arabian Peninsula was secured under the Muslims' control. In Islam, it is called abrogation(naskh) which is relevant within the context of time..The ayah is not relevant nowadays as there are no wars between religions :), there are some exceptions in Quran that u must studied b4 claiming ;)
@BesACB 2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing. n yeah referring to the video, I agree that there is no enough proof to claim he has converted to Islam ;)
of course he converted to Islam, its because he is illiterate, if he could read he would be able to see in the Quran that there are over 10 different verses regarding the creation, which one does he believe. maybe he was created from a drop of mud.
how many lies has he told about his credentials. Its ok though the Quran tells them its ok to decieve the people of the book
In Islam, creation is a continual process, unlike in the Judeo-Christian beliefs, where God "rested' on the 7th day because he was too tired to continue! Verses related to Creation are defined in epochs, or stages, just as the evolutionary cycle of the universe and humans happened in stages, starting from a single "unit." Creation is not complete and still ongoing. Some verses reflect they are yet to be fulfilled. God is Creator!
>>how many lies has he told about his credentials>>
That's a perfect question for Jews to ask. How in the world did this so-called "Jewish" kingdom wind up in the Pope's lap, and uncircumcised pagan priest of the ancient Roman religion that Jesus destroyed? Couldn't the god of the Jews find a "Jew" to sit on the Papal Throne instead of a Goyim, who eats bacon for breakfast; ham sandwich for lunch; pork chops for supper, and pork roast for dinner? All hail to Pope of Jews!
And the fact that you testify that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah implicitly makes you testify that Jesus is the word of God and his messenger.. that Moses is the messenger of God.. and the same for all the messenger of God!!
Islam is the religion that makes sense to normal human mind.
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Why don't you Islam haters just face it. Islam is the best religion if it was full of lies why would it be the fasting growing religion. A black christian friend of mine converted to islam and I asked him why he converted he said because it brings different races together, in mosques you see black,Asian,White people all together as in churches black people have their own church and White has their own.
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@BesACB and its funny our argument in the last video all they way through you said you were an atheist but really your christian lol why did you lie are you really ashamed of christianity becasuse of all the incest, murder and sxey stories it has in it lol what a 2 faced person you are and your 36 yrs of age and still have no clue.
@ati832 Pls Ati, why do you use a word like 'lie'? I used the word 'qafir' to describe myself. I think that was not inaccurate. I believe neither in Jesus and the Bible nor in Muhammad and the Qur'an. The idea that stories of murder and incest in a book would shock me says more about you than about me. One of the reasons why I prefer the Bible over the Qur'an is that the authors of the Bible are quite often good story-tellers whereas Muhammad obviously was not.
>> I was so sick and tired of all these hypocritical lies that I made a video about this>>
You’re the one lying, a typical Islam basher! How come your video has no sound? Are you afraid of your English accent? All the scrolling you do is a bit stupid. Can’t understand the point you’re trying to make. Obviously, you’re not a scientist. The resemblance of the fetus to a “leech” is clear in the photos you posted, especially where it’s curled up and the spine looks like a tail.
I am not interested in a discussion with you any longer. But you make a factual claim for once: my video has no sound? The one on Moore? When I call it up it does, so why not with you? Do you get an error message?
And no, I have a South African accent, not British or English. The scrolling shows that I am not making this up but took everything from the original CV of Prof. Moore.
>> I was so sick and tired of all these hypocritical lies that I made a video about this>>
The Quran is simply providing an analogy, or a resemblance of the fetus to a leech, and how it clings in the womb. A leech also clings to human flesh and draws blood from a congealed clot. Why are you acting like a rebel, deaf, dumb, and blind?
“Canst thou (Muhammad) make the deaf to hear, or canst thou guide the blind or him who is in error manifest?” (Qr. 43:4).
@StopSpamming1 "Growth of science was slow during the medieval period, and few high points of embryological investigation undertaken during this time are known to us. It is cited that the Quran (seventh century AD), that human beings are produced from a mixture of secretions from the make and female."
Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. The Developing Human - Clinically Oriented Embryology, 8th Edition. pgs. 8-9. Saunders Elsevier, Philadelphia, 2008.
@playthefield21 Moore has refused to talk/publish re koran for past 10 plus years now and its HILARIOUS that muslims dont know WHY, dont have a clue whats transpired AND want to delude themselves that he converted to islam lol
koran has errors in it re embryology..and very glaring omissions - more proof of the hoax of islam and how muslims are LIED TO
@proudfemale You should really watch Campbell Moore vs Zakir Naik. It's a four hour debate, but if you want truth it takes effort. Naik destroys all these 'embryology error' bullshit claims of yours.
There are also claims that NEil Armtrong concerted to Islam when he was on the Moon because he heard the call to prayer. Armstrong has denied this. There was even a book written by Islamic writers that the original NAtive Americans were muslim. I mean, come on. Where do all these crazy claims stop.
@manzo7500 exactly...what we see is the very visible DESPERATION of muslims .....they think if they say someone has converted it might give credilibility to the hoax lol
they also claim an allah has been proven....on clouds, bent trees, in burn marks on toasted cheese sandwiches etc LOL
claims this process is COPIED from the JEWISH TALMUD!!! he is a lair, his video uses deceptive tactics where he doesnt mention the 3 real stages of the womb, claims moore is a liar wihtout any actual proof. he is a fraud!
you claim this process is COPIED from the JEWISH TALMUD!!! you are a blatant lair, your video uses deceptive tactics where you doesnt mention the 3 real stages of the womb, claims moore is a liar wihtout any actual proof.
Are you stalking me now? You tried to attack me on my video and when that failed you now run around spreading your nonsense? Fine, but don't lie!
You still make claims without proving anything. Can you prove I am a Jew? If yes, why do I refute stupid Jewish claims the same way I refute stupid Christian and stupid Muslim claims?
Why don't you tell people what my "deception" is? A photo you don't like. A photo I use for illustration purposes.
"Copied from the Jewish Talmud. So it's not a miracle."
thats it youve lost all credibility. everyone knows theres nothing in the jewish talmud other then info of how all gentile non jews are slaves for jews. your a FRAUD!
nobodys stalking you, your a nobody, fact is i was looking at embryo videos in relation to the quran and found your ridiculous comment of how the jewish talmud has embryologoy, can you show me ONE scientist who has converted to judism, or even ONE PERSON who has converted to judism due to the jewish talmud? you make stupid statements in your anti islamic campain
@StopSpamming1 u have any video like this that prove ur claims ? with Prof more saying the oposit ? No u dont
what u trying to say is a Old lady story, many haters of Islam said that before u. But ur problem is u talk with ur mouth and u think u have proved somthing.
I saw a Castle flying in the Sky with a garden full of flying horses - its came out from my mouth - DEAL WITH IT
moore and bucaille never convert to your evil cult islam
they were too smart just like the jews
they never, they got $US6 million bucks for reading a statement from desperate saudis. LOL moore later confessed and apologised to his colleagues and refuse every TV and radio interview. he ws ashamed of his greedy antic
and he probably was under pressure from his saudis employers. same with bucaille. poor muslims so desperate to proof a fake religion. LOL
Haha, not every proof is delivered via video. Sometimes you need to work to get information.
But you are in luck. Yes, there are videos, many videos, here on YouTube that prove my claims. And if you don't find them, try Google. Look for Moore's CV, his books, go to onlineislamicstore, watch?v=fw3do0TLv6o, etc.
No, I am not an Islam hater. I criticise miracle seekers and radicals. You have a problem with reality and blindly believe, without ever checking anything.
Has Keith Moore actually converted to Islam? I have seen no evidence of this. I also heard he was highly paid to say this to an audience of Muslims. He has never repeated these words and his more recent work appears to contradict this stance...Does anyone have any credible answers?
@rogan71: People like to say that he was paid to say those words only b/c it helps them sleep better at night. Come on!!! He really did say those words own his own. If you people would just study the Qura'n like Keith Moor and so many other scientist did, you'd probably say the same. The truth can't be covered up for ever!
@Gutsukyo - I sleep fine either way, but do you not find it odd that he NEVER repeated these statements, nor did he convert to Islam and his latest text book edition has two versions. One for publications in Islamic countries and the standard version used all over the world, which contradicts his original findings...I have studied the Quran and I found it to be misleading. It never mentions the ovum and repeats Galen's stages and mistakes...If you studied more than the Quran you would know this.
@rogan71:"It never mentions the ovum and repeats Galen's stages and mistakes...If you studied more than the Quran you would know this".
Wrong. it doesn't repeat anything form Galen's work. it was the Arabs who proved many of Galen's theories wrong. And if you can't read Arabic, you can never really study and understand the Qura'n. sorry.
@muhamadick 1st thing Bucaille did is to study arabic to read the Quran in its Original text and when he discovered thers no contradiction, and all scientific facts agreed with our science he converted to Islam
Bucaille and Moore are people who does not need money and their jobs offer them a very well payment
The money story is a Old lady story used by Islam haters like u, ur name does explain lots about ur Personality
Hell is waiting for u
are u ready for a Eternal Journey to SAQAR with its 19?
@SonsOfLibertyy mate true. If a muslim scientist supports the Quran they'll call him a lier. If a non muslim supports the Quran he's bribed. If a strong critic suddenly converts there is somethin *fishy*. they are idiots who just can't understand u dont have to convert to Islam to show to prove u support the Quran There are many non muslim ppl in history who have spoken good words about Islam toob:D
@Gutsukyo - There are no discernible stages in embryology, rather a continuous process. At no point is the embryo a 'clot' unless is has miscarried. Bones are formed at the same time as flesh, not first and then 'clothed' in flesh...And many would consider not mentioning the ovum at all to be a glaring error, that repeats the mistakes made by Galen and merely echoes the thinking at the time....I see nothing miraculous about this...And neither does Keith Moore...At least not enough to convert!
@rogan71: Dude, do you speak or read Arabic? Because if you don't, all you have to rely on is the English translation of the Qura'n and therefore, are unable to comprehend its meaning 100%. We all know that English is a very limited language and has difficulties carrying over the full meanings of text in other languages. The Qura'n doesn't say that the embryo was a blood clot, just as it doesn't say that it was a lech.
@Gutsukyo - I've not only studied the Quran and Islam in general, but also the origins of Islam, which I strongly recommend you do, as it will open your eyes as to the nature of ancient Arabic and the impossibility to get any sort of exact transcription...Does Keith Moore speak Arabic? Thought not, so we can ignore his testimony as well...As I can with the Quran, unless I learn classical Arabic, like so many of the worlds Muslims have also failed to do...You love moving the goalposts don't you!
@rogan71: I asked you a simple question. Do you speak Arabic or not? I don't want to hear that you studied Islam and the Qura'n. B/c any comment you make over the internet doesn't mean shit to me. You cold be lying for the sake of argument for all I know. Dr. Moore had people non-muslim people working with him on his discoveries in the Qura'n. And even if he did retract what he had said, he probably did so out of fear. So many others have done the same.
@Gutsukyo "And even if he did retract what he had said, he probably did so out of fear" Chutzpah! People who apostatize from Muhammadanism get targeted by murderous fanatics, not people who convert to islam.
@Gutsukyo "Muhammadanism" (or Mohammedanism)= the religion founded by Mohammed (Muhammad)
Source: The New Lexicon WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
Muhammadans favour the synonym 'Islam', because, illogically, they pretend that their religion was NOT founded by Muhammad (even though they blow a fuse if one suggests their prophet was a very flawed man).
@BesACB: Lol. There is no such thing as "Muhammadnism" It's a made up word made to insult Muslims. Don't be ignorant, just b/c it's in the dictionary it still doesn't make it a true religion. The religion of Muhammad (saw) and Muslims is Isalm. ;)
@Gutsukyo " just b/c it's in the dictionary it still doesn't make it a true religion" You're right, just because it's in the dictionary doesn't make it a true religion. I never said Muhammadanism was a TRUE religion and if you prefer to call it "Isalm", go ahead. :)
@BesACB: You know what I mean. There is no religion called Muhammadanism. There is only Islam. So don't be a smart-ass, Islam isn't an 'ism' like atheism is.
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zaron786 3 days ago
Is this video a piss take? Someone having a laugh? Keith Moore NEVER became a muslim. Fact!
ashleyk2002uk 1 month ago
I thought this dude didn't convert to Islam.
ProgressiveAudio 1 month ago
@samikhalil1 nice lying
schpoogie 1 month ago
from today i accept islam ,,, lol
jawadkiammirandi 1 month ago
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Keith Moore never became muslim! He has already stated that Muslims have misrepresented him!
captaindisguise 1 month ago
Quoteminers! Ask Moore himself and you will find, that nothing of that is true.
MardasMan 2 months ago 2
@MardasMan thats why he released the book "developing human 3rd edition WITH ISLAMIC ADDITIONS"? to blunder himself as a prof.?
Genc85 1 month ago
Keith Moore did not convert to Islam. He's just a transparent Charlton who would say anything in order to get his book deal. If you still think it's true then plz provide evidence that he converted to Islam. Show me Keith saying in his own words ''i am now a Muslim'' you won't find it.
Moh5Itachi1 2 months ago
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RedLightGamers 2 months ago
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Respond to this video... show me in the bible that jesus said "im god or worship me" you wont find it! lol X)
RedLightGamers 2 months ago
@Moh5Itachi1 Why does he have to tell the world he reverted to Islam? It does not say in Islam that if you revert to Islam you must tell everyone...
AProudMuslim786 1 month ago
@AProudMuslim786 Very simple. If you find out that the Qu'ran was divinely inspired as this video is claiming that Keith did. What do you think he's gonna do the following day, go to the mosque. However this video has been purposely edited to make these scientist say things that they actually didn't say and wrote letters days after saying so.Here from there own mouth
watch?v=Bygb30gAqOs William Hay
/watch?v=ClHuG880pqU Alfred Korener
Moh5Itachi1 1 month ago
@AProudMuslim786 As for Keith Moore. This video is cleary stating that he became a muslim when he found scientific miracles in the Qu'ran. The fact that he didn't convert shows that he didn't believe the supposed miracle claims and wasn't impressed by any of them which makes this video pure propaganda for the ignorant young Muslim looking to validate his religion.
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Moore is "emeritus", i.e he is no longer a professor.
We now know why !
becharev 4 months ago
I know Muslims have an inferiority complex. I know they want to be proud of their religion. But why lie?
Prof. Moore has not written a single book on science in the Koran. He has not presented anything by himself to anyone on the Koran. He is still a Christian and has had nothing to do with the Koran for 10 or 12 years - according to himself.
He's just laughing at gullible Muslims who take ONE statement as being true and disregard millions of others, who say the opposite. Selective reality?
StopSpamming1 5 months ago
@StopSpamming1 Try and find one error out of the million you say, go on find me one error and il reply to your email.
AProudMuslim786 1 month ago
@AProudMuslim786
You are a bit behind the times.
Hundreds, if not thousands of pages list them, explain them, prove them.
I have an entire series of videos on the different types of errors.
And please don't reply.
StopSpamming1 1 month ago
@StopSpamming1 Just give me one error you fool, lol just give me one and i will reply, your talking about " entire seires" you cant even give me one
AProudMuslim786 1 month ago
@AProudMuslim786
Be modest in thy bearing and subdue thy voice. In harshest of all voices is the voice of the ass. Koran 31:19
StopSpamming1 1 month ago 2
@StopSpamming1 you have not studied the Quran and not even read it, you guys try pulling errors out of the Quran, first learn to read.
AProudMuslim786 1 month ago
@AProudMuslim786
So I can't read - but I can use Google.
You can read - but can't use Google.
Where's the mistake?
StopSpamming1 1 month ago
@AProudMuslim786 Are you still a proud Muslim now you see that Samikhali1 lied? If your belief system needs you to lie about it, then it is worthless. If I were you, I would be more distancing yourself from this, not supporting it.
NoFaithNoPain 1 month ago
@AProudMuslim786 Since he is urging you to see his series, and to see the thousands of pages explaining such errors, why do you even bother to tell him that he can't name one?
What good is it to pretend that he can't find any, when it's a 0.14 second Google search away from him AND you?
athanasiadis24 1 month ago
@athanasiadis24 lol i have infact been on those sites, those people who think Quran is a error, have not even studied the Arabic, lol DR ZAKIR NIAK debated athiest why dont you see his videos? i just cant wait to see what this idiot says, i just want him to try and pull one error atleast so then i can reply to him.
AProudMuslim786 1 month ago
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watch this. your hero
watch?v=xatECtUaJDk
dubi186 1 month ago
@AProudMuslim786 Why on Earth would anyone care to waste the time to learn an otherwise useless language just because some idiots tell him that he can't criticise a book because he does't know the original Arabic?
That's what translations are for, and that's the reason why there's so many of them. It is suspicious that Muslims keep saying that you must know Arabic...
athanasiadis24 1 month ago
@athanasiadis24 lol, Arabic is not like English... Its complex, i have been learning Arabic for so long, its hard to get into it and learn it all, but for example i have taken French in high school for my GCSE and i have allready got an A* and i learnt most of it faster that Arabic. Basically im trying to say is that the translation is there for the people who dont understand Arabic, but to learn the FULL meaning you must learn and study the Quran.
AProudMuslim786 1 month ago
@AProudMuslim786 ...So in Arabic it has miracles, and in English it's so vastly different that the miracles vanish?
athanasiadis24 1 month ago
1 CHRONICLE 16:30 Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved.
THIS SAY IT CANNOT BE MOVED BY MEN.
Psalm 93:1 The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed in majesty and armed with strength; indeed, the world is established, firm and secure.
IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NOT MOVING
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
@DictaduraNo123 Hahaha. I gave you 4 clear verses in the bible where it PLAINLY says that the earth was FIRMLY FIXED and IMMOVABLE! And now you started claiming that the Bible say that because it was implying that Earth cannot be moved by Man!
juujuubie 5 months ago
@juujuubie HA HA HA...I DON'T BELIVE IN RELIGIOUS BOOKS. BUT SHOW ME A TEXT IN THE QURAN WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE EARTH IS MOVING? NONE. THE QURAN TALKS ABOUT THE "OBSERVABLE ORBIT OF THE SUN AROUND THE EARTH" BUT IT DOESN'T MENTION THE ORBIT OF THE EARTH. JUST SHOW ME A TEXT IN THE QUURAN WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE EARTH IS MOVING...? NONE
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
@juujuubie yep...on a par with the nonsense/stupidity/beliefs of that era in koran also
e.g. it says 'mountains prevent earth from shaking, thats its flat, & sun sets in muddy water"....LOL
and that 'stars are missiles to chase jinns'
and that 'humans are created from a drop between backbone/ribs and congealed blood" LOL
and muslims wonder WHY islam is mocked/laughed at...and those controlled by the hoax 'pitied' for their ignorance/gullibility
proudfemale 5 months ago
THE QURAN IS SUCH AN UNSCIENTIFIC BOOK THAT IT CONFUSES STARS WITH SHOOTING STARS. THEY THOUGHT THAT THE SHOOTING STARS YOU CAN SEE AT NIGHT WERE ONLY THE STARS YOU SAW AT NIGHT THAT WOULD FALL. THAT IS WHY IN 67:5 IT SAYS THAT "STARS ARE MISSILES TO SHOOT THE DEMONS". BUT STARS ARE HUGE SUNS, BIGGER THAN OUR EARTH. THAT IS HOW IDIOTIC AND UNSCIENTIFIC THE QURAN IS. THE SAME STUPID STATEMENT IS REPEATED IN 37:6-8
WHERE IS SAYS THAT "STARS ARE USED TO BE THROWN AGAINST DEMONS WHO COME TO HEAVEN"
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
Keith Moore didn't convert to Islam....lol
LauraDurkay 6 months ago
@LauraDurkay some people may want to keep a low profile, especially if they are living in a very secular country like France! He need to think of his wife and children too. The fact is he wrote and say good things about islam more than most muslims ever do in a hundred year!
juujuubie 5 months ago
@LauraDurk KEITH MORE AND BUCAILLE ONLY WANTED TO MAKE MONEY BY SAYING WHAT MUSLIMS WANTED TO HEAR. THEY WORKED IN SAUDI ARABIA AND KNEW THEY COULD SELL BOOKS TO FOOLISH MUSLIMS BUT NO SERIOUS DOCTOR COULD EVER SAY THAT EMBRYOLOGY IN THE QURAN IS SOMETHING SCIENTIFIC. THE QURAN REPEATS WHAT THE GREEK DOCTOR GALEN SAID EVEN HIS MISTAKES, THAT "FIRST CAME THE BONES AND THEN THESES BONES WERE CLOTHED WITH FLESH". THERE ARE NO BONES IN AN EMBRYO BUT CARTILAGE AND IT DOENST START WITH A CLOT OF BLOOD
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
MUSLIMS ARE SUCH FOOLS. THE QURAN IS FULL OF ABURDITIES: STARS ARE MISSILES TO SHOOT THE DEVIL, 67:5. THERE ARE 7 HEAVENS AND THE STARS ARE IN THE CLOSEST ONE, 41:12, THERE IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE SUN SET AND ANOTHER WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE SUN RISE AS IF THE EARTH WAS FLAT, 18:83-90...I COULD GO ON AND ON.. BUT THEY FIND POEPLE LIKE BUCAILLE OR MOORE, WHO LIVED IN SAUDI ARABIA AND WANTED TO MAKE MONEY BY TELLING MUSLIMS WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR AND THEY FOOLISHLY BELIEVE IT
DictaduraNo123 6 months ago
@DictaduraNo123 ( you said : MUSLIMS ARE SUCH FOOLS. THE QURAN IS FULL OF ABURDITIES: STARS ARE MISSILES TO SHOOT THE DEVIL ) Maybe it's the SHOOTING STARS ! And maybe these are just some of the unseen that cannot be seen by human eyes just like the heaven and hell or angels and devils or God himself. When something cant be explained yet in islam, muslims will just keep quiet. BUT STILL this unexplainable things are more like metaphor, its not some simple clear cut contradiction like the bible!
juujuubie 5 months ago
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juujuubie 5 months ago
@DictaduraNo123 For example the bible clearly say that the earth is fixed and not moving, this is one such clear cut statement that is DIRECT contradiction with science. Even if we want to call this a mataphor, the statement is just too clear cut and we just find it too hard to believe that the Bible might mean another thing! The Quran does not have any clear cut contradiction like this, most of them are just metaphor but many too seem to agree much with science too!
juujuubie 5 months ago
@juujuubie YOU SAY THE BIBLE SAY THAT THE EARTH IS FIXED AND NOT MOVING BUT YOU GIVE NO SOURCE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BIBLE SAY THAT THE EARTH IS A "CIRCLE" :
Isaiah 40:21-22 It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
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juujuubie 5 months ago
@DictaduraNo123 Here are the sources :
1 Chronicles 16:30: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable."
Psalm 93:1: "Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ..."
Psalm 96:10: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ..."
Psalm 104:5: "Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken."
juujuubie 5 months ago
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juujuubie 5 months ago
@DictaduraNo123 And by the way , the verse 67.5 in the Quran NEVER EVEN wrote the word 'star' in it! Star in arabic is 'Najm' and there's not a single 'Najm' on that verse! The only word that Quran talks in relation with the missiles is the word 'Lamps'. Of course we cannot put lamps on the sky, so, obviously this is just a clear metaphor! And the word missiles could be the metaphor for shooting stars or meteorite too! and the source of this meteorite could have come from an exploding stars too!
juujuubie 5 months ago
@juujuubie ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT WHEN THE QURAN TALKS ABOUT STARS IT IS NOT REFERRING TO WHAT YOU SEE AT NIGHT IN THE SKY??? HA HA HA HA.......PLEASE. ADMIT IT. THE QURAN IS NOT SCIENTIFIC
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
@juuj ABSURDITIES: ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THE STARS ARE "LAMPS" AND NOT HUGE SUNS. THEY ARE ALSO MISSILES AGAINST THE DEVIL. NOTICE THAT THE QURAN SAYS THAT THERE ARE 7 HEAVENS, ANOTHER ANCIENT, FALSE BELIEF PROVED WRONG CENTURIES AGO, 41:12, AND THAT STARS ARE LOCATED IN THE CLOSEST HEAVEN.
67:5 And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
@DictaduraNo123 (1) Chapter 57 in the Quran is called "The Iron" in Arabic (Al-Hadeed). The word (Al-Hadeed) in Arabic has a gematrical value (numerical value for each arabic letter) of 57, the same as the Chapter number in which it is mentioned.
The gematrical value of the Arabic word "Hadeed" (iron) WITHOUT the "Al" (the) is 26. In the Periodic Table of Elements, the 26th element is IRON (Fe) meaning the number of protons in the iron nucleus is 26.
juujuubie 5 months ago
@DictaduraNo123 (2) The word 'Iron' itself is only mentioned in verse 25 of this chapter. If we count the word God(ALLAH) mentioned in the very first verse of this Chapter right till the verse where the word 'Iron' was present, You will get exactly 26 word GOD(ALLAH). And 26 is the Atomic number of iron!
And take note also that Chapter 57 is the CENTER of the Quran (because Quran total chapter 114/2 = 57) And what is absolutely abundant in the CORE or the CENTER of the earth? IRON again!!
juujuubie 5 months ago
@juujuubie HA HA HA...MUSLIMS ALWAYS LET THEIR IMAGINATION RUN WILD. HOW CAN THE QURAN TALK ABOUT IRON IN THE CORE OF THE EARTH WHEN IT SAYS STH AS STUPID AS THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT, THAT "STARS ARE MISSILES TO SHOOT THE DEMONS" AND THAT "THERE ARE 7 HEAVENS"", AND OLD, FALSE BELIVE OF MUHAMMED'S TIME THAT HAS BEEN PROVED WRONG FOR CENTURIES. THE QURAN HAS ONLY THE PTOLOMAIC VISION OF THE UNIVERSE THAT THOUGHT THAT THE HEAVEN WAS DIVIDED IN 7 BECAUSE OF THE 7 OBSERVABLE MOVING OBJECTS IN THE SKY
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
@juujuub ABSURDITIES: ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THERE WAS A MAN WHO COULD UNDERSTAND THE SPEECH OF ANTS. THIS IS MORE LIKE A FAIRY TALE SINCE ANTS COMMUNICATE THROUGH CHEMICAL TRAILS, 27:18-19
At length, when they came to a (lowly) valley of ants, one of the ants said: "O ye ants, get into your habitations, lest Solomon and his hosts crush you (under foot) without knowing it."
So he smiled, amused at her speech; and he said: "O my Lord! so order me that I may be grateful for Thy favours......
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
@juujuubie ABSURDITIES: THE QURAN PRESENTS THE PTOLEMAIC MODEL OF THE UNIVERS OF MUHAMMED'S TIME. THE 7 HEAVENS WAS AN ANCIENT CONCEPT THAT HAS LONG BEEN PROVED WRONG. MUSLIMS CLAIM TODAY THAT IT IS THE LAYERS OF THE ATMOPHERE BUT 41:12 TELL US THAT "STARS ARE LOCTED IN THE CLOSEST HEAVEN", AND HERE WE SEE THAT THE MOON AND SUN TOO, 71:15-16
See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another, and made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (Glorious) Lamp?
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
@juujuubie ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THERE IS A PLACE WHERE THE SUN SETS AND RISES AS IF THE EARTH WAS FLAT, 18:83-90
They ask thee concerning Zul-qarnain...We gave him the ways and the means to all ends.One (such) way he followed, until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! ...Then followed he (another) way, until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom.....
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
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@juujuubie BESIDES 18:83-90 THE QURAN IMPLIES THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT, "LIKE A CARPET", "SPREAD OUT"
71:19 "'And God has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)
13:3 And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers...
15:19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet)
43:10 (Yea, the same that) has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out
79:30 And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse)
DictaduraNo123 5 months ago
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juujuubie 5 months ago
He mentions writting many many books on science, but NONE on the science of the quaran,,,,that is a complete and utter lie! honestly
sailtheseaofcheese 6 months ago
No he never wrote a single book on the science in the Quran, that is a lie...i dont think he's muslim becuase i saw a recent interview with him and not once did he mention the quran even though he had MANY chances to. You can find this interview easily by searching his name on google where you come across a biography website about Keith Moore...again not once in his biography does he even mention the quaran despite mentioning his achievments in embrilogy
sailtheseaofcheese 6 months ago
mashallah..
kafir jahan jaye ga apne jhoot se logo ko warghalanay ki koshish karay ga..
translated : where ever a dis believe will go. he will try to create doubt in the heart of people with his lies and stories
alisalmanrajput 6 months ago
Keith Moore merely said what his host and benefactor wanted him to. There is no official 'shahadah' statement from Dr. Moore, so conversion is a gross overstatement. Why not write him personally and ask rather than make outrageous claims on YouTube?
drdavey777 9 months ago
@drdavey777 Fair enough, we havever heard an official statement of shahadah from him. But I think it's you're now becoming a little outrageous in claiming he only said what his hosts 'wanted him to'. What, like there was a gun put to his head? A bribe? I don't think so. He willingly studied the Qur'an and Hadith in Saudi Arabia for 4 years. Fact. THEN he said those things. I don't think anyone's forcing him here, nor is he working on behalf of some random Muslim students.
TheResonate 8 months ago
@TheResonate @TheResonate Four whole years in KSA exlusively devoted to Quran and Hadtihs? Where do you get these facts? I just reviewed Dr. Moore's CV and nowhere does it claim a 4 year sabbatical in KSA. Where is your evidence? This document makes no mention of KSA. Can you please explain? I think you are victim to some very suspect claims and you need to research more before you post.
drdavey777 8 months ago
@drdavey777 I understand that it his not in his CV in anatomy and embryology. But when someone write something in their own book, well, it's hard to call it 'force'. The following is a direct quote from 'Moore, Keith L. and al-Zindani, Abdul-Majeed A., 'The Developing Human with Islamic Additions', Third Edition, W.B. Saunders Company, Philadelphia, 1982'. This was co-written. If you deny this, then it is clear that you simply refuse to believe it rather than fail to.
TheResonate 8 months ago
@drdavey777 "For the past three years, I have worked with the Embryology Committee of King cAbdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, helping them to interpret the many statements in the Qur'an and Sunnah referring to human reproduction and prenatal development. At first I was astonished by the accuracy of the statements that were recorded in the 7th century AD, before the science of embryology was established. Although I was aware of the glorious history of Muslim scientists... ctd
TheResonate 8 months ago
@TheResonate "...in the 10th century AD, and some of their contributions to Medicine, I knew nothing about the religious facts and beliefs contained in the Qur'an and Sunnah." Happy? Tell me if you need any more direct quotes my friend. Remember I used his textbooks as medical references when I studied dentistry in Hungary. ;) All the best.
TheResonate 8 months ago
@TheResonate of his profile in his own words as well as a link to his CV and an hour long interview. Read the CV carefully - no where does it mention a 3 year sabbatical in KSA. Indeed at the time of that video (mid 1908s I believe), he was wearing so many admin hats at U Toronto in addition to his research/writing/teaching. The only ref to the Quran thing is in his exhuastive publications list. By the way I have hios North American addition of COA (2006) and no mention of Quran/Hadith.
drdavey777 8 months ago
@TheResonate I suppose like any writer, the forwards are tailored to the audience. After all, you need to make sure the religious authorities in KSA and elsewhere are not offended by the non-mention of their precious Quran/Hadith. Also note in his CV - he makes mentions of his public service to the United Church in Toronto. No mosque is mentioned nor any reference to other Islamic organizations. Odd that a convert would miss the opportunity.
drdavey777 8 months ago
@TheResonate Lastly, how come not a single Canadian based Mosque has claimed Dr. moore as an a past or active member of their fold? The silence is deafening. It seems to me that Moore is a very modest fellow and probably wishes to keep his own beliefs to himself. This YouTube video is wrong, inappropriate and misleading. Lest Dr. Moore himself makes a public statement of his Muslim faith, I consider the matter moot and the poster of the video should take it down.
drdavey777 8 months ago
@TheResonate You misread the statement. Look at his statement CARFEULLY: " I have worked with the Embryology Committee of King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia" Does this mean he spent 3 years in Jeddah studying Quran/Hadith? I seriously this guy had the time to waste on silly religious writings when he was so busy person at U Toronto. Take a peek at his profile on wiki - it is a horrible write-up, but at the bottom is a link (first in list). Click there to access a write up.....
drdavey777 8 months ago
non muslim hater, there are no claims to be made against the quran keith moore or no keith moore, the quran is perfect. many scientists have converted to islam, many people continue to convert to islam over all other relegions for a reason. its desperation when people attempt to attack it when not one has been successful in proving anything in the quran as being an error, all false claims. it is the most highly praised book in the world, unaltered and memorised by millions.
prototype00000 11 months ago
Where is dr. Moore say I converted to Islam????Wrong titel here..Lies ..
angeleye827 11 months ago
Anyone converting to Islam or converting from Islam do not honour or degrade Islam in any way, any individual's accpeptance of Islam is for his own good.
sultanms7 1 year ago
As a scientist. Tell to arab king.what he wants to hear and you be rich.
angeleye827 1 year ago
@angeleye827 do you RELLY think that this prof. who selled a lot of his books was POOR and needed to do that? :)
Genc85 11 months ago
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@Genc85 lol. millions???I don;t think so...But answer my question??Where is dr. Moore say I converted to Islam?
angeleye827 11 months ago
I emailed Keith Moore a few months ago and he told me that he did not convert to Islam.
TheRationalizer 1 year ago
I see you didn't provide any evidence that KLM converted to Islam. Looks like a lie.
OptimisticCynic715 1 year ago
@OptimisticCynic715 please see the video sg5aVgwN_2E&NR=1. KLM's whole speech is there in audio-visual. May be this is enough evidence for you
mysupermail 1 year ago
@mysupermail He's reading some B.S. off a card in the video you linked. He was paid ca$h to spout that garbage.
Why is he keeping it hidden so well today if he is or ever was a Muslim? Why not proudly proclaim how it has enriched his life? Why is a cheap, grainy video from decades ago all we have?
Why doesn't he end the controversy once and for all?
Of course, if THEY CLAIM he became a Muslim, but then he say's he is not, he could be murdered. And yet he doesn't confirm that he is...hmm.
OptimisticCynic715 1 year ago
@OptimisticCynic715 Dear!!! To be a Muslim all you need is bear the witness that “there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His messenger” which Prof. Moore clearly stated in the video sg5aVgwN_2E&NR=1. This is enough for someone to call him a Muslim. Your statement that “He was paid ca$h” has no proof just like if I say that he is now being paid ca$h or pressurized to keep himself hidden and not declare it in public that he is Muslim.
mysupermail 1 year ago
@mysupermail "all you need is bear the witness that “there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His messenger” which Prof. Moore clearly stated in the video sg5aVgwN_2E&NR=1."
Could you tell me the time where he says, "there is no god but Allah"? I must have missed it.
It seems a very simple statement to remember and make, especially if you are a passionate believer. It doesn't seem like you would have to stutter it off of a card.
Looks like he was duped into saying what he did. Poor guy.
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@OptimisticCynic715 (cont.) "just like if I say that he is now being paid ca$h or pressurized to keep himself hidden and not declare it in public that he is Muslim."
If it was that easy to shut him up he wouldn't be much of a Muslim would he?
And why would they want to shut him up? Canadian government is dhimmi, anxious and hungry to lick Muslim feet. They'd probably give him a parade for bragging about Islam. Why would he be so ashamed?
OptimisticCynic715 1 year ago
@OptimisticCynic715 The thing you are missing here is that to be a Muslim requirement is not for someone to bear this witness word by word. It is very clear from the video that he believes in Allah. What happens after that, where is he now, what is his belief now is something I do not know and I can’t comment on that. But as far as from this video he was a Muslim at that point of time declaring his belief.
mysupermail 1 year ago
He did not convert actually. He was by no means impressed with the Qur'an.
BesACB 1 year ago
This video is another lie for muslim propiganda.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago 2
actually he did NOT convert, despite making these remarks. i am sure that he was paid, and paid well, to say this nonsense. If he really believed it, he would have converted, which (as i said) he did not.
btw, you may also find it interesting that osama bin laden was one of the financers of the muslim version of his text book
mooglebee 1 year ago 3
The book that Moore wrote that they ALWAYS rely on for this bullshit claim was 'updated and amended' by a group of Muslim scholars in an Islamic edition. What a shame that they have adjusted and misrepresented the facts in order to lie to other Muslims about the contents of the Qur'an. These people will stop at nothing to spread this poison, even lying to their own should they even dare to question its content.
andnoreligiontoo 1 year ago 4
Dr. Keith Moores lies for money, he has a complete opposite oppinion in his own book written after this declaration, has he changed his idea after collecting other information ?
put these two words in a search engine "derafsh embryology" and you will find a complete explanation with all references, of Moores writtings and where the Koran gets its wrong information from.
saintpine 1 year ago 2
If we are to believe the famous hadith collections (and most Sunni scholars seem to consider them authoritative) the so-called prophet Muhammad was capable of cruel and vindictive deeds. The Q itself also amply illustrates the flawed character of the Meccan would be: a chapter devoted to curse his aunt and uncle, the very convenient 'revelation' that to M, already on his sixth wife, the limit of 4 does all of a sudden not apply, and of course verses like the infamous 9:29. Be a man, apostatize!
BesACB 1 year ago 4
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frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB show me proof that the famous hadith collections was capable of cruel n vindictive deeds? n which 1 shows devotion 2 curse prophet's aunt n uncle?The limit of 4 doesnt apply to him because he is Maksum(clean from sins) n he is not the same as us who could not resist temptations n lusts...he married those 12 because of valid reasons which i would explain to u next..
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB Khadijah is the first wife n there's nothing wrong with it...Saodah n Salama, widows, were 65 years old when he married them(how contra with the fulfilment of lust towards a granny?), Zainab was very old as well n his husband killed in UHUD war(a gratitude for his husband's sacrifice that the family later were taken care by prophet)
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB Juayria is a prisoner during the battle of Mustalaq n her rich father came to pay ransom. Prophet asks Juayria to decide whether to embrace Islam or to pay, as she came from a wealthy family, she could simply pay but she refused. Then to guide her to be more pious Muslims, prophet married her! Hafsah is the daughter of his companion, Umar and this strengthen their relationship :), the rest were also widows n i'm very certain that u'll question his marriage with Saidatina Aishah R.A.
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB as for Aisyah, it is base on sociopolitical reason which is 2 strengthening rlation with Abu Bakr family. Secondly, the fact that `Aisha, before the Prophet proposed to her, was being pursued by Jubair ibn Mut`am, indicates that she was mature enough for marriage, according to the prevailing tradition at that time, if not, the Quraish people, who would never waste any chance 2 insult the Prophet SAW, would have found this marriage as a golden opportunity 2 pour on him rain of insults.
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB Rather they found nothing wrong in this engagement, and they received the news of the Prophet’s proposal for `Aisha as something usual, and even, expected. After the passage of many centuries, we find now some Orientalists who try to strike a comparison between the conditions of our present time and what was existing 1400 years ago. They are trying to apply the criterions of the Western society to that society that existed in the Arabian Peninsula very long ago.
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB It should be noted that in the hot regions, it’s normal for a girl 2 attain maturity at a very early age. Thus the case is totally different from that which does exist in the cold regions where a girl does not attain puberty before 21.Had it been true that the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, aimed at fulfilling a lust or satisfying a desire, he would have done this while still in his youth when he was still free from the responsibilities of delivering Allah’s call.
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB At his early age, the Prophet,SAW, accepted to marry Khadija, who was 15 years older than him. He also never married a new wife until after her death. Thirdly Aisya is a very brilliant woman that she can easily comprehend a thing, by marrying prophet SAW, she can directly put prophets words or deeds into hadeeth n it was evident that most people(men or women) refer to her on many things.
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB the case of sura 9:29, which deals with Jews and Christians. Fighting them is mentioned after the clarification regarding fighting the idolaters (9:5). This verse (9:29) was revealed when Muhammad was commanded to fight the Byzantines and prepared the expedition to Tabuk. Ibn Kathir declared: The order is to fight the People of the Book until they pay the jizyah (protection tax) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB Had they been true believers in their religions, that faith would have directed them to believe in Muhammad because all prophets commanded them to obey and follow him. Yet when he was sent, they disbelieved in him even though he is the "mightiest of all messengers because it suits their desires and lusts, and because they disbelieved in the master, the mightiest, the last of all prophets. He continues: "This honorable verse was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book.
frh88 1 year ago
@frh88 "Had they been true believers in their religions, that faith would have directed them to believe in Muhammad" The terrible arrogant warped logic of belief.
BesACB 1 year ago 4
@BesACB Had they been true believers in their religions, that faith would have directed them to believe in Muhammad because "all prophets commanded them to obey and follow him" including Jesus ;) Please note that to believe in Muhammad doesnt mean to be "Muhammadanism", it is solely referring to the teachings he brought n the teachings of former prophets taught, divinely from the word of God, in that time, Muhammad SAW(May Allah bless him) is the prophet after Jesus A.S(May Allah bless him)
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@BesACB Had they been true believers in their religions, that faith would have directed them to believe in Muhammad because "all prophets commanded them to obey and follow him" including Jesus ;) Please note that to believe in Muhammad doesnt mean to be "Muhammadanism", it is solely referring to the teachings he brought n the teachings of former prophets taught, divinely from the word of God, in that time, Muhammad SAW(May Allah bless him) is the prophet after Jesus A.S(May Allah bless him)
frh88 1 year ago
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@BesACB It is because only Muhammad remains, the non-Muslims should refer to him if they are the true believers of "Jesus, Moses,David,Adam n another 20 prophets where their teachings convey the same messages throughout the years, as I said earlier there are huge time lag between Jesus(A.S) n Muhammad SAW that cause the corruptness of Bible n that's y they should believe on Muhammad's teaching now, that it's solely came from GOD!!!!!
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB In Sahih Bukhari "Khadeejah then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah ibn Nawfal ibn Asad ibn AbdulUzza, who, during the pre-Islamic period became a Christian and used to write in the Hebrew alphabet. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write.
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadeejah said to Waraqah, "Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqah asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" Allah's Apostle described that which he had seen. Waraqah said, "This is the one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live until the time when your people will turn you out."
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they drive me out?" Waraqah replied in the affirmative and said, "Anyone (man) who came with something similar to that which you have brought was greeted with hostility; and if I remain alive until the day when you will be turned out then I should SUPPORT you strongly."
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB However, he remained christians.He must be amongst those who disbelieved inspite of knowing the truth. As said it was clear in the Books abt the signs of this Prophet. Abt first person. Warqah bin Naufal accepted Muhammad {pbuh} as a prophet. :) As Allah says in Qur'an - "And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah (i.e. Muhammad ) confirming what was with them, a party of those who were given the Scripture threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know"
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB Nowhere does the Quran say that God prefers Muhammad to all his other messengers. There are verses in the Quran that speak of God preferring messengers or prophets to others. Thus in chapter 2, Al-Baqarah, verse 253, God speaks of some of the messenger He has favored over others. He refers to Moses by inference but mentions Jesus by name and says that He granted him the clear signs and that He supported him with the Holy Spirit.
frh88 1 year ago
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@BesACB The other verse dealing with God's preferring or favoring prophets 2 others is in chapter 17:55. Here God states that He favors some prophets over others and that He granted David, mentioning him by name, the Psalms. There is no mention of Muhammad anywhere near the preference verses. DoesThisMeanThat God favors Jesus or David to all others?God is free 2 prefer whomever He will of His servants, but we given clear instructions in 2:285, that we'r not 2 make distinction among e messengers.
frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB Ibn Kathir continues: "This honorable verse was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book. After the pagans were defeated, the people entered God's religion in large numbers, and the Arabian Peninsula was secured under the Muslims' control. In Islam, it is called abrogation(naskh) which is relevant within the context of time..The ayah is not relevant nowadays as there are no wars between religions :), there are some exceptions in Quran that u must studied b4 claiming ;)
frh88 1 year ago
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frh88 1 year ago
@BesACB 2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing. n yeah referring to the video, I agree that there is no enough proof to claim he has converted to Islam ;)
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IpsaPaphum 1 year ago
of course he converted to Islam, its because he is illiterate, if he could read he would be able to see in the Quran that there are over 10 different verses regarding the creation, which one does he believe. maybe he was created from a drop of mud.
how many lies has he told about his credentials. Its ok though the Quran tells them its ok to decieve the people of the book
1960Aussie 1 year ago
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@1960Aussie
>>10 different verses regarding the creation>>
In Islam, creation is a continual process, unlike in the Judeo-Christian beliefs, where God "rested' on the 7th day because he was too tired to continue! Verses related to Creation are defined in epochs, or stages, just as the evolutionary cycle of the universe and humans happened in stages, starting from a single "unit." Creation is not complete and still ongoing. Some verses reflect they are yet to be fulfilled. God is Creator!
TheFatimid 1 year ago
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@1960Aussie
>>how many lies has he told about his credentials>>
That's a perfect question for Jews to ask. How in the world did this so-called "Jewish" kingdom wind up in the Pope's lap, and uncircumcised pagan priest of the ancient Roman religion that Jesus destroyed? Couldn't the god of the Jews find a "Jew" to sit on the Papal Throne instead of a Goyim, who eats bacon for breakfast; ham sandwich for lunch; pork chops for supper, and pork roast for dinner? All hail to Pope of Jews!
TheFatimid 1 year ago
And the fact that you testify that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah implicitly makes you testify that Jesus is the word of God and his messenger.. that Moses is the messenger of God.. and the same for all the messenger of God!!
Islam is the religion that makes sense to normal human mind.
BeAwareToAvoid 1 year ago
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Why don't you Islam haters just face it. Islam is the best religion if it was full of lies why would it be the fasting growing religion. A black christian friend of mine converted to islam and I asked him why he converted he said because it brings different races together, in mosques you see black,Asian,White people all together as in churches black people have their own church and White has their own.
shams122020 1 year ago
Btw, he didn't convert to Muhammadanism.
BesACB 1 year ago 7
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@BesACB and its funny our argument in the last video all they way through you said you were an atheist but really your christian lol why did you lie are you really ashamed of christianity becasuse of all the incest, murder and sxey stories it has in it lol what a 2 faced person you are and your 36 yrs of age and still have no clue.
ati832 1 year ago
@ati832 Pls Ati, why do you use a word like 'lie'? I used the word 'qafir' to describe myself. I think that was not inaccurate. I believe neither in Jesus and the Bible nor in Muhammad and the Qur'an. The idea that stories of murder and incest in a book would shock me says more about you than about me. One of the reasons why I prefer the Bible over the Qur'an is that the authors of the Bible are quite often good story-tellers whereas Muhammad obviously was not.
BesACB 1 year ago 6
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@BesACB Before you jump to conclusions again: No, I'm not a Jew either!
BesACB 1 year ago
Funny that according to the Wall Street Journal, Moore has not had anything to do with Islam for 10 or 12 years.
I was so sick and tired of all these hypocritical lies that I made a video about this.
watch?v=6Xen_0gNHu8
StopSpamming1 1 year ago 16
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@StopSpamming1
>> I was so sick and tired of all these hypocritical lies that I made a video about this>>
You’re the one lying, a typical Islam basher! How come your video has no sound? Are you afraid of your English accent? All the scrolling you do is a bit stupid. Can’t understand the point you’re trying to make. Obviously, you’re not a scientist. The resemblance of the fetus to a “leech” is clear in the photos you posted, especially where it’s curled up and the spine looks like a tail.
TheFatimid 1 year ago
@TheFatimid
I am not interested in a discussion with you any longer. But you make a factual claim for once: my video has no sound? The one on Moore? When I call it up it does, so why not with you? Do you get an error message?
And no, I have a South African accent, not British or English. The scrolling shows that I am not making this up but took everything from the original CV of Prof. Moore.
StopSpamming1 1 year ago
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@StopSpamming1
>> I was so sick and tired of all these hypocritical lies that I made a video about this>>
The Quran is simply providing an analogy, or a resemblance of the fetus to a leech, and how it clings in the womb. A leech also clings to human flesh and draws blood from a congealed clot. Why are you acting like a rebel, deaf, dumb, and blind?
“Canst thou (Muhammad) make the deaf to hear, or canst thou guide the blind or him who is in error manifest?” (Qr. 43:4).
TheFatimid 1 year ago
@StopSpamming1 "Growth of science was slow during the medieval period, and few high points of embryological investigation undertaken during this time are known to us. It is cited that the Quran (seventh century AD), that human beings are produced from a mixture of secretions from the make and female."
Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. The Developing Human - Clinically Oriented Embryology, 8th Edition. pgs. 8-9. Saunders Elsevier, Philadelphia, 2008.
Funny, that was in 2008.
playthefield21 1 year ago
@playthefield21 Moore has refused to talk/publish re koran for past 10 plus years now and its HILARIOUS that muslims dont know WHY, dont have a clue whats transpired AND want to delude themselves that he converted to islam lol
koran has errors in it re embryology..and very glaring omissions - more proof of the hoax of islam and how muslims are LIED TO
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale You should really watch Campbell Moore vs Zakir Naik. It's a four hour debate, but if you want truth it takes effort. Naik destroys all these 'embryology error' bullshit claims of yours.
playthefield21 1 year ago
@proudfemale
There are also claims that NEil Armtrong concerted to Islam when he was on the Moon because he heard the call to prayer. Armstrong has denied this. There was even a book written by Islamic writers that the original NAtive Americans were muslim. I mean, come on. Where do all these crazy claims stop.
manzo7500 1 year ago
@manzo7500 exactly...what we see is the very visible DESPERATION of muslims .....they think if they say someone has converted it might give credilibility to the hoax lol
they also claim an allah has been proven....on clouds, bent trees, in burn marks on toasted cheese sandwiches etc LOL
proudfemale 1 year ago
@StopSpamming1
this guy on this vid
watch?v=Q_nTPUN1BSY
claims this process is COPIED from the JEWISH TALMUD!!! he is a lair, his video uses deceptive tactics where he doesnt mention the 3 real stages of the womb, claims moore is a liar wihtout any actual proof. he is a fraud!
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@StopSpamming1
You are a FRAUD! on this vid
watch?v=Q_nTPUN1BSY
you claim this process is COPIED from the JEWISH TALMUD!!! you are a blatant lair, your video uses deceptive tactics where you doesnt mention the 3 real stages of the womb, claims moore is a liar wihtout any actual proof.
stopspamming1 is a fraud!
prototype00000 11 months ago
StopSpamming is a fraud! he claims the embry process was in the jewish talmud first.
watch?v=Q_nTPUN1BSY
he is jewish and uses deceptive tactics in his vid.
prototype00000 11 months ago
@prototype00000
Are you stalking me now? You tried to attack me on my video and when that failed you now run around spreading your nonsense? Fine, but don't lie!
You still make claims without proving anything. Can you prove I am a Jew? If yes, why do I refute stupid Jewish claims the same way I refute stupid Christian and stupid Muslim claims?
Why don't you tell people what my "deception" is? A photo you don't like. A photo I use for illustration purposes.
StopSpamming1 11 months ago
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@StopSpamming1
"Copied from the Jewish Talmud. So it's not a miracle."
thats it youve lost all credibility. everyone knows theres nothing in the jewish talmud other then info of how all gentile non jews are slaves for jews. your a FRAUD!
prototype00000 11 months ago
@StopSpamming1
nobodys stalking you, your a nobody, fact is i was looking at embryo videos in relation to the quran and found your ridiculous comment of how the jewish talmud has embryologoy, can you show me ONE scientist who has converted to judism, or even ONE PERSON who has converted to judism due to the jewish talmud? you make stupid statements in your anti islamic campain
prototype00000 11 months ago
1. Prof Moore did not convert to Islam.
2. Prof Moore made those statements 30 years ago.
3. Prof Moore later wrote that the Koran is a mere "Historical Gleaning", ie a myth.
4. The Islamic Additions in his book were done with Abdul Majeed al-Zindani.
StopSpamming1 1 year ago 8
@StopSpamming1 u have any video like this that prove ur claims ? with Prof more saying the oposit ? No u dont
what u trying to say is a Old lady story, many haters of Islam said that before u. But ur problem is u talk with ur mouth and u think u have proved somthing.
I saw a Castle flying in the Sky with a garden full of flying horses - its came out from my mouth - DEAL WITH IT
SonsOfLibertyy 1 year ago
@SonsOfLibertyy
moore and bucaille never convert to your evil cult islam
they were too smart just like the jews
they never, they got $US6 million bucks for reading a statement from desperate saudis. LOL moore later confessed and apologised to his colleagues and refuse every TV and radio interview. he ws ashamed of his greedy antic
and he probably was under pressure from his saudis employers. same with bucaille. poor muslims so desperate to proof a fake religion. LOL
muhamadick 1 year ago 2
@SonsOfLibertyy
Haha, not every proof is delivered via video. Sometimes you need to work to get information.
But you are in luck. Yes, there are videos, many videos, here on YouTube that prove my claims. And if you don't find them, try Google. Look for Moore's CV, his books, go to onlineislamicstore, watch?v=fw3do0TLv6o, etc.
No, I am not an Islam hater. I criticise miracle seekers and radicals. You have a problem with reality and blindly believe, without ever checking anything.
StopSpamming1 1 year ago
uh...he didn't covert to islam.
00ismaeL001 1 year ago
Wow, cutting edge science! How old is this video? I bet the muslims can't get Keith Moore to say those words these days...
kusalaviro 1 year ago
Has Keith Moore actually converted to Islam? I have seen no evidence of this. I also heard he was highly paid to say this to an audience of Muslims. He has never repeated these words and his more recent work appears to contradict this stance...Does anyone have any credible answers?
rogan71 1 year ago 3
@rogan71: People like to say that he was paid to say those words only b/c it helps them sleep better at night. Come on!!! He really did say those words own his own. If you people would just study the Qura'n like Keith Moor and so many other scientist did, you'd probably say the same. The truth can't be covered up for ever!
Gutsukyo 1 year ago
@Gutsukyo - I sleep fine either way, but do you not find it odd that he NEVER repeated these statements, nor did he convert to Islam and his latest text book edition has two versions. One for publications in Islamic countries and the standard version used all over the world, which contradicts his original findings...I have studied the Quran and I found it to be misleading. It never mentions the ovum and repeats Galen's stages and mistakes...If you studied more than the Quran you would know this.
rogan71 1 year ago 5
@rogan71:"It never mentions the ovum and repeats Galen's stages and mistakes...If you studied more than the Quran you would know this".
Wrong. it doesn't repeat anything form Galen's work. it was the Arabs who proved many of Galen's theories wrong. And if you can't read Arabic, you can never really study and understand the Qura'n. sorry.
Gutsukyo 1 year ago
@Gutsukyo
money grabber keith moore got US$6 million, so did bucaille
they all laugh to the bank with their petro dollars from the saudis.
its easy money, just read a prepared statement from the saudi imams
and endorse muhamed.. wow. get sucked into it muslim bonkass
why did the saudis require a non native arabic speaker to interpret the quran??
he doesnt even read arabic at all. suckers
muhamadick 1 year ago
@muhamadick 1st thing Bucaille did is to study arabic to read the Quran in its Original text and when he discovered thers no contradiction, and all scientific facts agreed with our science he converted to Islam
Bucaille and Moore are people who does not need money and their jobs offer them a very well payment
The money story is a Old lady story used by Islam haters like u, ur name does explain lots about ur Personality
Hell is waiting for u
are u ready for a Eternal Journey to SAQAR with its 19?
SonsOfLibertyy 1 year ago
@SonsOfLibertyy
your stupid allah is nothing but a moon deity with 3 daughters
and muslims are 100% idolators. they worship a rock allah living in kaaba
they circle and kiss allah the stone like deranged zombies chanting satanic quranic shit verses
Hahahahaahaha
sooo stupid
they need kafirs to proof their religion
they need non arabic speakers to explain quran
Hahahahahahaha, stupid stupid idiot
muhamadick 1 year ago
@muhamadick @StopSpamming1 whats the Hahahaha for !!
this explain both of u are kids and when somone start horning like a donkey its just to hide his Anger
No matter what lies u try it wont get u to anyhting, Islam will DOMINATE.
people tried there best than u during 1400 years and failed, its not to kid in 2010 who wil change the whole world
Islam is the FATEST GROWING RELIGION in the World it will enter ur CITY and in ur Family (Ops....its already in ur city #LOL )
DEAL WITH IT
SonsOfLibertyy 1 year ago
@SonsOfLibertyy
oh yes, you are a blind believer without reason
you are a blind follower of en evil satanic cult, islam
Hahahahahaahahahahahaha
hahahahahahaahhahahahah
allah is a moon deity
and your stupid mopedo was the pedophile, necrophile, incest and rapist
besides he was a thief, robber and killer
fucking stupid stupid religion
muhamadick 1 year ago
@SonsOfLibertyy mate true. If a muslim scientist supports the Quran they'll call him a lier. If a non muslim supports the Quran he's bribed. If a strong critic suddenly converts there is somethin *fishy*. they are idiots who just can't understand u dont have to convert to Islam to show to prove u support the Quran There are many non muslim ppl in history who have spoken good words about Islam toob:D
younib100 1 year ago
@Gutsukyo - There are no discernible stages in embryology, rather a continuous process. At no point is the embryo a 'clot' unless is has miscarried. Bones are formed at the same time as flesh, not first and then 'clothed' in flesh...And many would consider not mentioning the ovum at all to be a glaring error, that repeats the mistakes made by Galen and merely echoes the thinking at the time....I see nothing miraculous about this...And neither does Keith Moore...At least not enough to convert!
rogan71 1 year ago
@rogan71: Dude, do you speak or read Arabic? Because if you don't, all you have to rely on is the English translation of the Qura'n and therefore, are unable to comprehend its meaning 100%. We all know that English is a very limited language and has difficulties carrying over the full meanings of text in other languages. The Qura'n doesn't say that the embryo was a blood clot, just as it doesn't say that it was a lech.
Gutsukyo 1 year ago
@Gutsukyo - I've not only studied the Quran and Islam in general, but also the origins of Islam, which I strongly recommend you do, as it will open your eyes as to the nature of ancient Arabic and the impossibility to get any sort of exact transcription...Does Keith Moore speak Arabic? Thought not, so we can ignore his testimony as well...As I can with the Quran, unless I learn classical Arabic, like so many of the worlds Muslims have also failed to do...You love moving the goalposts don't you!
rogan71 1 year ago
@rogan71: I asked you a simple question. Do you speak Arabic or not? I don't want to hear that you studied Islam and the Qura'n. B/c any comment you make over the internet doesn't mean shit to me. You cold be lying for the sake of argument for all I know. Dr. Moore had people non-muslim people working with him on his discoveries in the Qura'n. And even if he did retract what he had said, he probably did so out of fear. So many others have done the same.
Gutsukyo 1 year ago
@Gutsukyo "And even if he did retract what he had said, he probably did so out of fear" Chutzpah! People who apostatize from Muhammadanism get targeted by murderous fanatics, not people who convert to islam.
BesACB 1 year ago 2
@BesACB: What the heck is "Muhammadanism"?
Gutsukyo 1 year ago
@Gutsukyo "Muhammadanism" (or Mohammedanism)= the religion founded by Mohammed (Muhammad)
Source: The New Lexicon WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
Muhammadans favour the synonym 'Islam', because, illogically, they pretend that their religion was NOT founded by Muhammad (even though they blow a fuse if one suggests their prophet was a very flawed man).
BesACB 1 year ago 3
@BesACB: Lol. There is no such thing as "Muhammadnism" It's a made up word made to insult Muslims. Don't be ignorant, just b/c it's in the dictionary it still doesn't make it a true religion. The religion of Muhammad (saw) and Muslims is Isalm. ;)
Gutsukyo 1 year ago
@Gutsukyo " just b/c it's in the dictionary it still doesn't make it a true religion" You're right, just because it's in the dictionary doesn't make it a true religion. I never said Muhammadanism was a TRUE religion and if you prefer to call it "Isalm", go ahead. :)
BesACB 1 year ago 2
@BesACB: You know what I mean. There is no religion called Muhammadanism. There is only Islam. So don't be a smart-ass, Islam isn't an 'ism' like atheism is.
Gutsukyo 1 year ago
@Gutsukyo It IS actually.
BesACB