"Thunderbirds, Knock it off," telling all Thunderbirds (in the air and on the ground) that the show is immediately cancelled and to recover to safe rendezvous point.
How do you know that the altimiter was set for Nellis? Kind of interesting if it was being this was the Sunday show they had done after doing a show Saturday at Reno in the morning, flew to Mountain Home for a second show, then did it again the next day.
This guy would suck at calling in air strikes in Call Of Duty and his record in Madden was like 6-59 and he played with the patriots because they were the highest rated team what a band wagon loser
So sad to see here that people who are in the Us Military (if they really are) and defending the same country are talking shit about each others positions. Marines, Air Force, soldiers, etc. The way i see it don't talk about Marines if you are not one and don't talk about pilot skills if you are not a pilot. All the jobs in the military (Especially who are in active duty fighting in a war) have a a lot stress and it is obviously not easy. Respect and peace...
fedzog: Check some of the other videos of this crash, they explain what happened. Apparently he never reset his altimeter from the setting he used at the previous airport. This airport was close to a thousand feet higher, therefore, he started his manouver almost a thousand feet too low.
Actually, he did not change his altimeter from the setting at Nellis AFB since Mountain Home's and Nellis' altimeter settings are similar. The pilot was grounded due to pilot error.
PS: For those who don't know what an altimeter is, it is a sensitive aneroid barometer that is graduated and calibrated, used chiefly in aircraft for finding distance above sea level, terrain, or some other reference point by a comparison of air pressures.
actually stalling in aerobatic aircraft doesn't have much to do with angle of attack. A stall is when a plane no longer produces lift, which in most aircraft is when the wing reaches the critical angle of attack. But some planes have the power to go vertical and hover like a helicopter. They'll have sluggish controls but in theory it's possible.
Lift is produced in lesser amounts when the camber/chord lines in the aerofoil have such a large AoA that the air cannot flow over the wing as rapidly/as much as it could at a lower AoA. Therefore, it has everything to do with Angle of Attack, and nothing to do with airspeed, which a lot of people think seems to cause a stall, although a loss of airspeed does coincide with a greater AoA, so I can see why people make that assumption.
If the thrust/weight ratio is greater than 1, then lift, in the Bernouilli sense you appear to be describing it, is not necessary to keep the airplane aloft. The plane can move as a rocket does, with no additional assistance. For example, an f-15, if loaded properly, can accelerate vertically relying solely on the thrust of its engines and without assistance from wings, where AoA, must be considered, as you properly note.
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if u observe... the f-16 stopped using afterburners (i think he used afterburners) and used the brake so the plane was going really slow after he turned/looped dats y he crashed.... he dint miscalculate d altitude because as u can see, after d loop, d nose of d plane was pointing up which means the loop was perfect except that the plane was going very slow and so it was stolling just see for yourself and ull believe me that he didnt miscalculate it.. its just that he didnt have enough thrust!!!
ok, first off, in respons to tarasfoml, the super hornet is navy. this is the us airforce. flight squad/training squad thunderbirds. second, he didnt give himself enough air space to pull off that dogfight move known to all fighter pilots as the half cuban 8. and 3rd, he didnt stall out. had to mutch speed, in order to stall out you half to have less then 100 knots. otherwise you just go in a strait line till you gain speed. and 4th, he is trained to stay with the plane till the last second.
1st its a reverse half cuban 8 2nd you can stall at any speed its relative to your angle of attack not your airspeed this is one of the first things a pilot will learn and if you do not know this it just shows how ignorant you are. your 1st and 4th points however are spot on
actually he didnt stall out. i know this for a fact. technically a stall out is either no air under the wings or the motor cant get enough air in the combustion chamber. what went wrong is he didnt give him self enough hight to pull off the move. so no matter how much he pulled back on the stick he was going to crash. and i am not ignorant. i am just really passionate about our air force and the falcon (viper) pilots. i give them mad respect.
i never said he stalled. i was just correcting you on what a stall is and how it is dependant on the angle of attack not the airspeed. you can be doing 1 knot in an f-16 and not stall provided you as doing 0g as your angle of attack would be 0. in america you have an aerobatic move called a hammerhead. in australia we call it the stall turn. the american name is more correct as you never actually stall during the move however your airspeed will be very minimal during this movement
um....you can not do 1 knot of airspeed. physically impossible. the plane would fall out of the sky if you hit 85 knots. i have done extensive research on the falcon. if you get below 100 knots, you will stall out and if your to low crash. i say read up on the falcon a bit more before you come to me with facts that are not true.
lol yes and when doing that, the plane will fall before it hits 1 knot. it weighs roughly 1200 lbs give or take. engine produces about 28,000 lbs of thrust. plus in a dog fight, going strait up will more times then not get you killed. only when your six is lucky will it actually work. its not like a prop job that is much lighter were it can go to 0-1 knot hover there for a bit then fall. f-16 cannot do that. just to heavy.
haha yes 1200lb plus of minus about 36000lb you dick head hahahaha that made my day.. you really really need to learn about the theory of aviation cos you're just making youself look soooooo dumb. a plane cant fall before it hits one knot if its flying straight up because once it loses all of its speed it will go straight back down therefore it must hit 1 knot before it starts falling. i've flown military jets and civilian prop aircraft just take my word for it and stop making yourself look dumb
aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhgggggggggg you are one hell of a fuck tard gees!!! you do not know the viper. you say you have flown military jets. what cargo one's? and a prop will act different then a jet. one props are much lighter. two props depending on the configuration, are either pushing the plane or pulling the plane. three, jets are "ducted" fans. many fans are spinning at high revolutions to get the thrust. just shut up now and dont bother me with your lame aviation knowledge.
no single engine 2 seat military jets. im not going to bother you with the type cos you wont know it cos ur ignorant haha. the only way for something to go forward is to have a force either pushing oing on the plane. jets also push on the aircraft. the fans in a jet compress the air until it is very hot as temp is relative to pressure then fuel is added and as it is hot it lights up getting pushed out the back and according to newtons 3rd law the gasses being pushed out the back will push on the
dude, i know how the jet engine works. i specialize in the F-16. i believe it has 3 high compression fans in it. don't come to me explaining how the jet engine works. i know exactly how it works. what i am trying to tell you is that propeller planes act differently then jet planes do. and the only plane i know of that your talking about is the F-16D. that's the only single engine 2 seat fighter we got. so go home and quit bothering me!!!!
aircraft to be pushed forwards. props do the same. they grab air and because the propellor is shaped like a wing it creates lift in a horizontal plane. air gets sucked in and pushed out behind the propellor and hence the aircraft also gets pushed forwards. aircraft work the same way regardless of whether its a jet or prop. the only difference is prop wash. air flow over the elevator and rudder making it more controllable at slow speeds thats all. both can travel backwards if forced to do so.
actually the viper cannot do what your claiming it. i know the capabilities of the viper. in order for the viper to be pushed back, it has to have an out side force. aka a tow truck. i dont remember what the truck's official name is right now, but the viper cannot go backwards on its own. have you ever tried what your talking about in a viper? i have, its not possible, you will stall out due to no air under the wings and start falling "like a leaf". while your spedometer reads 185 knots.
actually it can. if you fly an f-16 straight up and a propellor aircraft straight up they will both slide backwards before flopping forwards and flying straight down again. its not a speedometer either. its an airspeed indicator (asi). it wouldnt happen at 185 knots either. much slower no idea what the actual number would be but more like 110 knots
Right, but a jet aircraft will flame out its engine(s) when its airspeed goes to zero at the peak, so fighter pilots normally don't do this intentionally. Nothing bad happens to prop aircraft, which is why you see it all the time.
1 knot is airspeed. Going straight up still means you're moving in air and therefor you have airspeed. Only when you stall you can experience (briefly) 1 knot.
aye? if you go vertical with no power you'll run out of airspeed and fall backwards doing a tail slide and you must do 1 knot before you go backwards but you still wont stall cos your AoA is 0
lol still no. you will stall on the recovery as your AoA will be at the critical angle however while your still going up you will not be stalling even at 1 knot
well if you had a powerful enough plane you could hold it at 1 knot but not in a jet. you need prop wash over the rudder and elevators to give you control over the plane
haha it'd hafta have like 6 engines capable of 360 degree vectoring haha but sure.. lol i think the edge 540 is able to hover but don't quote me on it
I saw documentary on this the pilot forgot to ajust the aircrafts altimeter. And since the airfield was several thousand feet above sealevel, he miscalculated his height and ran out of air. He also got the boot for that mistake (he managed to eject in the last second).
"Can you even stall with that much thrust behind you? "
Yea, you can stall at any speed as long as your angle of attack (how much angle your pull is) then the airflow can be disrupted. People stall a lot during stunts when pulling up, but the reason they keep going is pure thrust.
looks like he pulled up too much and lost it. its like when you turn say... hard left on a wet road you turn and turn left and then when you lose control, you no longer turn left, but just straight. the plane was pulling up and up, and then lost it and went in the current path it was moving in, unfortunately that was DOWN
Yes, and if you listen carefully you can actually hear him saying, "Ouch hot Hot HOT!!!" No, truthfully it's the engine - there's no way that at that distance and scale to the rest of the aircraft that that would be the pilot. You can find tons of posts with info on this crash - the pilot survived uninjured (except for his career). He was reassigned where he was late for his very first meeting, having forgotten to reset his watch to local.
the AIRFORCE crahses shit all the time, why do you think they are recruiting for pilots right out of high school....I think thier new moto is...."GET YOUR G.E.D. while your in flight school, Hooked on phonics works for me"
You're an ass. No branch of the US military "crashes shit all the time". Get a life and a clue. Recruiting pilots right out of high school? Wrong again. Nobody becomes an AF pilot right out of high school. It takes 4 years of college FIRST then acceptance to flight school which is another year at a minimum. Don't be so bitter just because you'll never qualify. You can always apply at McDonalds you loser.
lol.....STFU OLD MAN, BEFORE I BITCH SLAP YOU...did I say at anytime I wanted to, or am a jet pilot.....stfu ASSPIPE, FYI.....I do fly, Helicopters, in the civilian world....and you can fly without a college degree....you can fly choppers for the army.....once again...your a total assbag, and dont know shit....your obviously AIRFORCE baby blue got no clue WEARING RETARD!......I LOL IN YOUR FACE BITCH! TAG DUMBASS!
You reveal your lack of intelligence by your need to swear so much when trying to make a point. If you can read, which I have my doubts, read my post again. I said nobody becomes an AF pilot right out of high school. I said nothing about Army helo pilots. We all know the Army has the lowest educational standards of any branch. You're trying to make an argument where there's nothing to argue about. You're probably just a teen who's only tough on the internet when he's behind a keyboard.
tell ya what tough guy......If there was a way to give you my number, or e-mail....without everyone else knowing it, Id give it to you....and then we could arrange to meet. I dont need to hide behind shit asspipe. And cussing doesnt mean a person is uneducated, I do have a college degree and own my own buisness...I picked up my eloquent cussing skills when I was in the U.S. Marines, you fucking retarded u.s.a.f. dumbass....Come get some...any time, I am Good to Go. TAG DUMBASS!
I was wrong for calling you a teen. Apparently, you're only 12. When someone has to give their credentials or achievements when never asked they're either very insecure or simply a liar. I think you're both. I would expect better behavior from a Marine. The ones I've worked with were exceptional. You're a disgrace and an embarrassment to the Corps. Good job. I'm finished debating with a child.
whatever air force, go away in your babyblue civilian type clothes, and hang yourself...i wouldnt piss on you if you were freezing to death...but I would PISS on your grave. Lets keep in touch, so I know when you die, I can come visit the cemetary, and piss on you. TAG BITCH!
If it wasn't a mechanical failure, then it was probably pilot error in that he did not have enough altitude to perform this maneuvre. His sink rate was too high to overcome at the altitude. Basically, his downward momentum was too much with not enough space between him and the ground for the plane to completely pull out. IMHO.
Pilot didn't set altimeter correctly. Chris Strickland is his name and this ejection was his final maneuver as a Thunderbird. Kicked off team next day. Several rule changes made for future flights as a result.
it wasn't bad altimiter setting, or a full fuel tank. they perform this manuever everytime they go in the air for a performance. the plane had a mechanical malfunction. end of story
* he didn't climb to the safe altitude to perform the split S. but still, that plane has the ability to pull out of it in time. so a combination of altimiter malfunction/mechanical malfunction brought down the plane
Uh...no there was no flame-out whatsoever. I was working weekend duty that day just down the flightline and watched the crash. The after-accident report stated that the cause was pilot error...in other words he had the altimeter set for Nellis instead of Mountain Home.
not necessarily true. you can stall a wing at any angle of attack, but you usually have to be going slow enough to cause loss of lift. Conversely, you can stall a wing at any speed, but you have to be at a significant enough AOA to cause the disruption of airflow over the wing. Also, the F-16 would not stall at that AOA and speed, the jets perform that maneuver all the time, it was the incorrect setting of the altimeter.
The stall speed goes up with wing loading. This is one of the reasons we are taught not to make 60 degree banked turns near MCA or Vs1 speeds. Setting the altimeter should be on the preflight checklist. Some aerobatics pilots set the altimeter to "0" on the ground so they don't have to convert MSL to AGL while flying close to the ground.
i was there for this show. When they started their part of the show the dimond took off first in formation, the plane that crashed was plane 5 also known as the first solo pilot. after review they determined that he had set his altimiter wrong so he did not have the proper altitude to pul off the stunt. after a few minutes the crowd was informed that he was ok and that the rest of the show was cancled. the pilot was released later that night with major bruses and minor cuts.
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whats all them pathetic dumb american voices for?? bahhhhh bahhhhh?? thunderbirds knock it off??? silly dumb american fools.they so fukkin dumb. jesus dont ya just hate americans
You retard. Thats flight control calling the Thunderbirds to immediately stop the show. "thunderbirds knock it off..." Pilots reply by repeating what the tower stated and their thunderbird number i.e. "1 knock it off" "2 knock it off" "3 knock it off..." etc...
If we're dumb you're borderline retarded, since you can't even spell "fucking". Oh, and
"Thunderbirds, Knock it off" is the official terminology for "Cease all maneuvers". They pick one way of saying it, in order to avoid confusion in the cockpit, much like the way a pilot shouts "Eject! Eject! Eject!" if someone were to say the word eject, it may confuse a pilot and he may bail when he does not need to.
Thats a tactical call from the Wing Lead. "Knock it Off" Refers to break formation, get safe, and wait for further instructions. If All the pilots were airborne at the time, they would split off into different directions, maintain a steady altitude, and hold that position/speed until the Wing Lead tells them to rejoin, or RTB (return to base)
wow, that was quite a crash. He didn't have enough altitude, therefore when he tried to go down, then back up, the wind took it and slammed the plane into the ground. I admire him for guiding it to where no people were. 0.8 seconds before it crashed, he bailed.
The investigation of the crash discovered it was pilot error... He dieled in the wrong field altimiter setting. Instead of making the the turn at 2,000 ft above the field he made it at like 1,800 or so. My numbers are off cause i read about this along time ago but you get the idea.
Holy cow...I think I saw him eject, but that was a flipping close call. .8 seconds...that's good reflexes!! Well he probably knew something was wrong.
GOD DAMNIT. I am american and i just want to tell all the other americans that keep posting ignorant shit to shut the hell up and stop giving our country a bad fucking name. Is it so hard to just respect other peoples fucking opinions on who the best flight team is. JESUS. I myself think that the blue angels are the best but that does not mean i dont find all the other teams to be extremely talented.
Hey "eeeds2242", both America and the Americans already have a really bad name. There's very little we can do to clear it up. This is, of course, not a personal remark, just in general, we all know that we, the people of the USA, do not enjoy a good name out there, even with our "glorious" army.
There are other things that make one nation a great nation. America somehow missed the whole point of being great about..hmm, let's see, yes, just about when it was founded..it's all temporary anyways.
"Pilot error (insufficient altitude) was later determined as the cause and the pilot, 31 year-old Captain Christopher Stricklin, was reassigned to a desk job at the Pentagon."
The pilots are acknowledging the "Knock it Off" radio call by the logistics officer on the ground. Through out the demonstration the Commander/Leader carries on "Sing Song" communications with all 6 jets so that every one knows what is happening. The solos also talk to the "Boss".
no you look at the angle of attack. his nose is pointed more up and plane is still coming down.when the air does not flow over the wing it is hitting the bottom of the wing and is causeing turbulence on top of wing not creating lift.i can't say what kind of wind speed he is flying in.since you takeoff into wind he is bottoming his loop on down wind. ground speed less wind speed means air speed might not be that great.
The wind is irrelevant to airspeed. The pilot simply started the maneuver too low, as he had his altimeter set incorrectly, and the plane hit the ground at the bottom. Stall or no stall, he would have hit the ground anyway.
Well I can see you are just a armchair pilot,and never tried a downwind landing,Never mind when you grow up and really try flying you will have to know then, his nose was above the horizon and the plane was still going down,High speed stall!
It's called Angle of attack or AOA, which means the planes flight direction is different than where the nose is pointed. the plane looks level with the ground but he's pulling a AOA of about -45 degrees. basicly the planes inertia from the dive forces it into the ground. He didn't stall
Some of you people really need to get a life, T-birds rock, and I've tried some of their manuvers, so when you think they suck, remember that it is EXTREMELY difficult to do those types of manuvers
i've seen a lot of speculation...it was in fact human error...i'm an aviation major at the university of illinois and i learned about this particular incident in an accident investigation class i took...he failed to set his altimeter properly...you have to set the current barometric pressure into the altimeter to insure it reads correctly, and he didn't...therefore he thought he was a couple hundred feet higher than he actually was, so he ended up being a little low at the bottom of the loop...
that's the other members/planes of the air display team saying that and it means they are stopping any manouvers/stunts because something has gone wrong, obviously the thing that was wrong was shown in the vid
I think it's funny how they actually play that corny music at the actual show on the ground. The pilots always sound over exaggerated and weird, calm down.
i hear that. they have no clue.its more than just a roller coaster ride thats for damn sure.you really apachee pilot? if so you've pulled some g's in that.
He landed just behind it. In the .8 seconds between his seat ejecting and the plane hitting the ground, he slowed down and the plane sped up. Doesn't take long for that to be a significant distance, and he made just enough.
Reference http://www.f-16.net/news_article968.html Earlier accident reports listed everything from engine flameout to "shock absorbers" (which don't exist) because the squadron commander refused to believe Thunderbird pilots performed pilot errors.
Official accident report: pilot error. He reverted back to his training routine at Nellis where the airfield is 1000 ft lower mean-sea-level, and topped out his split s 1000 ft too low. He was removed from the T-birds and works in the pentagon now. F15 flight commander -> T-bird pilot -> desk job.
BTW - I was USAF Air Traffic Control. "Knock it Off" means "abort." It's not used just when there's an emergency, but any time the flight lead wants to end the mission or exercise. But anyone can call KIO if there's a safety problem. In that case, it's exactly like a yellow flag on the NASCAR track - everyone stops what they are doing and reforms the formation and awaits further instructions.
I'm former USAF and even I like the Red Arrows better. TBirds are technical, clean-and-tight, block formation oriented. It's cool and all - real close, real coordinated... Red Arrow show I caught at Tyndall AFB... These guys came sauntering in like a bunch of drunken sailors from EVERY direction. Two over here, one over there, another sliding up from below. Complete controlled chaos! Way cool.
Yeah, he seriously gained altitude too quickly without gaining speed. That is an expensive mistake. I wonder what the penalties are for that. ... and the paperwork
This woould never happen with the arrows, as they're very by the book, and fly as safe as a n00b pilot on his first solo. Now, the Frecce Tricolore, those are crazy, doing a "drunken pilot" pass at 15m over the runway. No time to eject if you f* that one up.
Nice comments, asshole. Learn how to speak English, then post. BTW, it would be great for the world if you were to die. Can you understand that or was it too difficult for you?
He was texting.
Asherdude 2 months ago
must have been a woman pilot, eh? ;D
kLeRrks 3 months ago
"Thunderbirds, Knock it off," telling all Thunderbirds (in the air and on the ground) that the show is immediately cancelled and to recover to safe rendezvous point.
CarlosinCA 1 year ago 2
@CarlosinCA YES ATC phraseology !
cihtapohcsyp 1 year ago
What does the term "Knock it off" mean?
FSXTutorial 1 year ago
@FSXTutorial ATC phraseology " KNOCK IT OFF" very emergency message ...refer to CarlosinCA also
cihtapohcsyp 1 year ago
what is the name of this song?
1530NAT 1 year ago
@OCHawgy,
How do you know that the altimiter was set for Nellis? Kind of interesting if it was being this was the Sunday show they had done after doing a show Saturday at Reno in the morning, flew to Mountain Home for a second show, then did it again the next day.
jkryan61 1 year ago
i was there live
freerider450yfz 1 year ago
I was there and say this!! it was so scary!
yemmysindehouse 1 year ago
This guy would suck at calling in air strikes in Call Of Duty and his record in Madden was like 6-59 and he played with the patriots because they were the highest rated team what a band wagon loser
aHeavyWeight 2 years ago
Seems like they waited a little long to call knock it off.
testpilot51 2 years ago
So sad to see here that people who are in the Us Military (if they really are) and defending the same country are talking shit about each others positions. Marines, Air Force, soldiers, etc. The way i see it don't talk about Marines if you are not one and don't talk about pilot skills if you are not a pilot. All the jobs in the military (Especially who are in active duty fighting in a war) have a a lot stress and it is obviously not easy. Respect and peace...
Peacefulhumanbeing 2 years ago
apparent engine failure.
F100 is inferior to AL31
fedzog 2 years ago
fedzog: Check some of the other videos of this crash, they explain what happened. Apparently he never reset his altimeter from the setting he used at the previous airport. This airport was close to a thousand feet higher, therefore, he started his manouver almost a thousand feet too low.
Jackle61 2 years ago
Actually, he did not change his altimeter from the setting at Nellis AFB since Mountain Home's and Nellis' altimeter settings are similar. The pilot was grounded due to pilot error.
OCHawgy 2 years ago
PS: For those who don't know what an altimeter is, it is a sensitive aneroid barometer that is graduated and calibrated, used chiefly in aircraft for finding distance above sea level, terrain, or some other reference point by a comparison of air pressures.
OCHawgy 2 years ago
he was kicked out of the thunderbirds too
Shuvza 2 years ago
actually stalling in aerobatic aircraft doesn't have much to do with angle of attack. A stall is when a plane no longer produces lift, which in most aircraft is when the wing reaches the critical angle of attack. But some planes have the power to go vertical and hover like a helicopter. They'll have sluggish controls but in theory it's possible.
bkmjet 2 years ago
Lift is produced in lesser amounts when the camber/chord lines in the aerofoil have such a large AoA that the air cannot flow over the wing as rapidly/as much as it could at a lower AoA. Therefore, it has everything to do with Angle of Attack, and nothing to do with airspeed, which a lot of people think seems to cause a stall, although a loss of airspeed does coincide with a greater AoA, so I can see why people make that assumption.
TonyDog360 2 years ago
If the thrust/weight ratio is greater than 1, then lift, in the Bernouilli sense you appear to be describing it, is not necessary to keep the airplane aloft. The plane can move as a rocket does, with no additional assistance. For example, an f-15, if loaded properly, can accelerate vertically relying solely on the thrust of its engines and without assistance from wings, where AoA, must be considered, as you properly note.
have2eat 2 years ago
no sound this sucks
xXNightSlasherXx 2 years ago
Thunderbirds knock it off!
I'm glad no-one was hurt or killed.
FalconKPD 2 years ago
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if u observe... the f-16 stopped using afterburners (i think he used afterburners) and used the brake so the plane was going really slow after he turned/looped dats y he crashed.... he dint miscalculate d altitude because as u can see, after d loop, d nose of d plane was pointing up which means the loop was perfect except that the plane was going very slow and so it was stolling just see for yourself and ull believe me that he didnt miscalculate it.. its just that he didnt have enough thrust!!!
bboy0dk21 2 years ago
The pilot miscalculated his altitude, he didn't adjust his altimeter for the higher altitude of the Idaho airport.
buhrdt 2 years ago
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He could have made that, omg. If he hadn't left the plan and kept pulling, he'd have it. I think it was just so close though that he got scared.
adulamunda 3 years ago
And you are a highly trained fighter pilot? yeeaahh right, I'm sure you could have done better!!!
turbo240ka24det 2 years ago
is the squawk on 2500?
Askelairlines747 3 years ago
ok, first off, in respons to tarasfoml, the super hornet is navy. this is the us airforce. flight squad/training squad thunderbirds. second, he didnt give himself enough air space to pull off that dogfight move known to all fighter pilots as the half cuban 8. and 3rd, he didnt stall out. had to mutch speed, in order to stall out you half to have less then 100 knots. otherwise you just go in a strait line till you gain speed. and 4th, he is trained to stay with the plane till the last second.
fightingfalconfan 3 years ago
1st its a reverse half cuban 8 2nd you can stall at any speed its relative to your angle of attack not your airspeed this is one of the first things a pilot will learn and if you do not know this it just shows how ignorant you are. your 1st and 4th points however are spot on
paddy217125 2 years ago
actually he didnt stall out. i know this for a fact. technically a stall out is either no air under the wings or the motor cant get enough air in the combustion chamber. what went wrong is he didnt give him self enough hight to pull off the move. so no matter how much he pulled back on the stick he was going to crash. and i am not ignorant. i am just really passionate about our air force and the falcon (viper) pilots. i give them mad respect.
fightingfalconfan 2 years ago
i never said he stalled. i was just correcting you on what a stall is and how it is dependant on the angle of attack not the airspeed. you can be doing 1 knot in an f-16 and not stall provided you as doing 0g as your angle of attack would be 0. in america you have an aerobatic move called a hammerhead. in australia we call it the stall turn. the american name is more correct as you never actually stall during the move however your airspeed will be very minimal during this movement
paddy217125 2 years ago
um....you can not do 1 knot of airspeed. physically impossible. the plane would fall out of the sky if you hit 85 knots. i have done extensive research on the falcon. if you get below 100 knots, you will stall out and if your to low crash. i say read up on the falcon a bit more before you come to me with facts that are not true.
fightingfalconfan 2 years ago
ever heard of flying straight up dude?
paddy217125 2 years ago
lol yes and when doing that, the plane will fall before it hits 1 knot. it weighs roughly 1200 lbs give or take. engine produces about 28,000 lbs of thrust. plus in a dog fight, going strait up will more times then not get you killed. only when your six is lucky will it actually work. its not like a prop job that is much lighter were it can go to 0-1 knot hover there for a bit then fall. f-16 cannot do that. just to heavy.
fightingfalconfan 2 years ago
haha yes 1200lb plus of minus about 36000lb you dick head hahahaha that made my day.. you really really need to learn about the theory of aviation cos you're just making youself look soooooo dumb. a plane cant fall before it hits one knot if its flying straight up because once it loses all of its speed it will go straight back down therefore it must hit 1 knot before it starts falling. i've flown military jets and civilian prop aircraft just take my word for it and stop making yourself look dumb
paddy217125 2 years ago
aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhgggggggggg you are one hell of a fuck tard gees!!! you do not know the viper. you say you have flown military jets. what cargo one's? and a prop will act different then a jet. one props are much lighter. two props depending on the configuration, are either pushing the plane or pulling the plane. three, jets are "ducted" fans. many fans are spinning at high revolutions to get the thrust. just shut up now and dont bother me with your lame aviation knowledge.
fightingfalconfan 2 years ago
no single engine 2 seat military jets. im not going to bother you with the type cos you wont know it cos ur ignorant haha. the only way for something to go forward is to have a force either pushing oing on the plane. jets also push on the aircraft. the fans in a jet compress the air until it is very hot as temp is relative to pressure then fuel is added and as it is hot it lights up getting pushed out the back and according to newtons 3rd law the gasses being pushed out the back will push on the
paddy217125 2 years ago
dude, i know how the jet engine works. i specialize in the F-16. i believe it has 3 high compression fans in it. don't come to me explaining how the jet engine works. i know exactly how it works. what i am trying to tell you is that propeller planes act differently then jet planes do. and the only plane i know of that your talking about is the F-16D. that's the only single engine 2 seat fighter we got. so go home and quit bothering me!!!!
fightingfalconfan 2 years ago
aircraft to be pushed forwards. props do the same. they grab air and because the propellor is shaped like a wing it creates lift in a horizontal plane. air gets sucked in and pushed out behind the propellor and hence the aircraft also gets pushed forwards. aircraft work the same way regardless of whether its a jet or prop. the only difference is prop wash. air flow over the elevator and rudder making it more controllable at slow speeds thats all. both can travel backwards if forced to do so.
paddy217125 2 years ago
actually the viper cannot do what your claiming it. i know the capabilities of the viper. in order for the viper to be pushed back, it has to have an out side force. aka a tow truck. i dont remember what the truck's official name is right now, but the viper cannot go backwards on its own. have you ever tried what your talking about in a viper? i have, its not possible, you will stall out due to no air under the wings and start falling "like a leaf". while your spedometer reads 185 knots.
fightingfalconfan 2 years ago
actually it can. if you fly an f-16 straight up and a propellor aircraft straight up they will both slide backwards before flopping forwards and flying straight down again. its not a speedometer either. its an airspeed indicator (asi). it wouldnt happen at 185 knots either. much slower no idea what the actual number would be but more like 110 knots
paddy217125 2 years ago
@paddy217125
Right, but a jet aircraft will flame out its engine(s) when its airspeed goes to zero at the peak, so fighter pilots normally don't do this intentionally. Nothing bad happens to prop aircraft, which is why you see it all the time.
mediumspectrum 1 year ago
1 knot is airspeed. Going straight up still means you're moving in air and therefor you have airspeed. Only when you stall you can experience (briefly) 1 knot.
streetstream 2 years ago
aye? if you go vertical with no power you'll run out of airspeed and fall backwards doing a tail slide and you must do 1 knot before you go backwards but you still wont stall cos your AoA is 0
paddy217125 2 years ago
If you slide backwards, you stall. A intented stall, but still a stall.
streetstream 2 years ago
lol still no. you will stall on the recovery as your AoA will be at the critical angle however while your still going up you will not be stalling even at 1 knot
paddy217125 2 years ago
Waaw, so it doesn't stall at 1 knot. It stalls half a second later.
So you can't go at 1 knot without being in a stall or ending up in a stall half a second later.
streetstream 2 years ago
well if you had a powerful enough plane you could hold it at 1 knot but not in a jet. you need prop wash over the rudder and elevators to give you control over the plane
paddy217125 2 years ago
Or very good trustvectoring on a jet.
And than still it would be in theory.
streetstream 2 years ago
haha it'd hafta have like 6 engines capable of 360 degree vectoring haha but sure.. lol i think the edge 540 is able to hover but don't quote me on it
paddy217125 2 years ago
I saw documentary on this the pilot forgot to ajust the aircrafts altimeter. And since the airfield was several thousand feet above sealevel, he miscalculated his height and ran out of air. He also got the boot for that mistake (he managed to eject in the last second).
juuls26 3 years ago
"Can you even stall with that much thrust behind you? "
Yea, you can stall at any speed as long as your angle of attack (how much angle your pull is) then the airflow can be disrupted. People stall a lot during stunts when pulling up, but the reason they keep going is pure thrust.
mrdistraction 3 years ago
omg, that was a close ejection
Twistterclaw101 3 years ago
Amazing how close some people are to death while others are at home sittin' pretty.
footballkid1010 3 years ago
when they say knock it off its becaus there is other thunderbirds in the sky and the comand tower is telling them to stop there routine
scottaspect20 3 years ago
oh Btw Wtf does "knock it off" mean and be serious please
shadowkilla123 3 years ago
It is harmful for the body to eject, he actually lost an inch off of his height!!!(I read it in a magizine)
superdogsrock 3 years ago
looks like he pulled up too much and lost it. its like when you turn say... hard left on a wet road you turn and turn left and then when you lose control, you no longer turn left, but just straight. the plane was pulling up and up, and then lost it and went in the current path it was moving in, unfortunately that was DOWN
Love for you pilots out there
silentecho666 3 years ago
is that the person whos flipping on the ground the pilot?
MrCuddlezWorth 3 years ago
Yes, and if you listen carefully you can actually hear him saying, "Ouch hot Hot HOT!!!" No, truthfully it's the engine - there's no way that at that distance and scale to the rest of the aircraft that that would be the pilot. You can find tons of posts with info on this crash - the pilot survived uninjured (except for his career). He was reassigned where he was late for his very first meeting, having forgotten to reset his watch to local.
KNOCKITOFF!!
Jazzstanton 3 years ago
dude i was there in mountain home right? Yeah my dads response was oh SHIT! i was in 5th grade and my dad is a pilot
Englandgermany 3 years ago
geez they didn't sound too concerned!
bubbbaaa2000 3 years ago
the AIRFORCE crahses shit all the time, why do you think they are recruiting for pilots right out of high school....I think thier new moto is...."GET YOUR G.E.D. while your in flight school, Hooked on phonics works for me"
jeep92wrangler 3 years ago
You're an ass. No branch of the US military "crashes shit all the time". Get a life and a clue. Recruiting pilots right out of high school? Wrong again. Nobody becomes an AF pilot right out of high school. It takes 4 years of college FIRST then acceptance to flight school which is another year at a minimum. Don't be so bitter just because you'll never qualify. You can always apply at McDonalds you loser.
navinnav1 3 years ago
lol.....STFU OLD MAN, BEFORE I BITCH SLAP YOU...did I say at anytime I wanted to, or am a jet pilot.....stfu ASSPIPE, FYI.....I do fly, Helicopters, in the civilian world....and you can fly without a college degree....you can fly choppers for the army.....once again...your a total assbag, and dont know shit....your obviously AIRFORCE baby blue got no clue WEARING RETARD!......I LOL IN YOUR FACE BITCH! TAG DUMBASS!
jeep92wrangler 3 years ago
You reveal your lack of intelligence by your need to swear so much when trying to make a point. If you can read, which I have my doubts, read my post again. I said nobody becomes an AF pilot right out of high school. I said nothing about Army helo pilots. We all know the Army has the lowest educational standards of any branch. You're trying to make an argument where there's nothing to argue about. You're probably just a teen who's only tough on the internet when he's behind a keyboard.
navinnav1 3 years ago 3
tell ya what tough guy......If there was a way to give you my number, or e-mail....without everyone else knowing it, Id give it to you....and then we could arrange to meet. I dont need to hide behind shit asspipe. And cussing doesnt mean a person is uneducated, I do have a college degree and own my own buisness...I picked up my eloquent cussing skills when I was in the U.S. Marines, you fucking retarded u.s.a.f. dumbass....Come get some...any time, I am Good to Go. TAG DUMBASS!
jeep92wrangler 3 years ago
I was wrong for calling you a teen. Apparently, you're only 12. When someone has to give their credentials or achievements when never asked they're either very insecure or simply a liar. I think you're both. I would expect better behavior from a Marine. The ones I've worked with were exceptional. You're a disgrace and an embarrassment to the Corps. Good job. I'm finished debating with a child.
navinnav1 3 years ago 3
whatever air force, go away in your babyblue civilian type clothes, and hang yourself...i wouldnt piss on you if you were freezing to death...but I would PISS on your grave. Lets keep in touch, so I know when you die, I can come visit the cemetary, and piss on you. TAG BITCH!
jeep92wrangler 3 years ago
your a fucktard man
Lucas9422 3 years ago
Lol your a real douchebag...Dont even know anything..
shawszaa 3 years ago
lol at mcdonalds... nice comeback man
shadowkilla123 3 years ago
I was in the line to go to the bathroom when this happened!
Airsofter234 3 years ago
another way of putting it: "Oops!"
r1o0o1m 4 years ago
If it wasn't a mechanical failure, then it was probably pilot error in that he did not have enough altitude to perform this maneuvre. His sink rate was too high to overcome at the altitude. Basically, his downward momentum was too much with not enough space between him and the ground for the plane to completely pull out. IMHO.
jssher1nc 4 years ago
man i was there lol long time ago
blackseal06 4 years ago
Pilot didn't set altimeter correctly. Chris Strickland is his name and this ejection was his final maneuver as a Thunderbird. Kicked off team next day. Several rule changes made for future flights as a result.
Tampaslice 4 years ago 4
it wasn't bad altimiter setting, or a full fuel tank. they perform this manuever everytime they go in the air for a performance. the plane had a mechanical malfunction. end of story
arreau 4 years ago
* he didn't climb to the safe altitude to perform the split S. but still, that plane has the ability to pull out of it in time. so a combination of altimiter malfunction/mechanical malfunction brought down the plane
arreau 4 years ago
no! The altimeter was set incorrectly. Watched it on Explorer channel a few days ago
joachim2464 4 years ago 9
actully it was a partial flame out the engine restarted i live in Idaho and i was there
Shuvza 4 years ago
WRONG! he pulled back at 1670feet, not 2500feet. that's what he did wrong.
jezuzmcbob 3 years ago
wrong shuvza, joachim2464 is right, he had is altimiter set incorrectly, because it was set for Nellis AFB
thegstrings123 3 years ago
Uh...no there was no flame-out whatsoever. I was working weekend duty that day just down the flightline and watched the crash. The after-accident report stated that the cause was pilot error...in other words he had the altimeter set for Nellis instead of Mountain Home.
ghostowlf68 3 years ago
You have no clue what you're talking about, dude. The accident report stated the altimeter was set for Nellis and not Mt. Home.
ghostowlf68 3 years ago 7
this accident can be explaned by the full fuel tank, its very heavy and in this kind of manouver it can be dangerous
kadocako 4 years ago
hahahahha
gio31brasil 4 years ago
uhuhuhuhuh
kadocako 4 years ago
Does anyone know who video'd this angle?
Dustypags 4 years ago
wow, cool
Joe5646 4 years ago
Damn what happen lol
DarkBeam 4 years ago
its not funny!!!!
californianfreedom 4 years ago
You can stall a wing at any speed and any angle of attack. Exacerbated by a bad alitmeter setting. (although this seems incredulous to me)
w5cdt 4 years ago
not necessarily true. you can stall a wing at any angle of attack, but you usually have to be going slow enough to cause loss of lift. Conversely, you can stall a wing at any speed, but you have to be at a significant enough AOA to cause the disruption of airflow over the wing. Also, the F-16 would not stall at that AOA and speed, the jets perform that maneuver all the time, it was the incorrect setting of the altimeter.
simmonstwopointzero 4 years ago
The stall speed goes up with wing loading. This is one of the reasons we are taught not to make 60 degree banked turns near MCA or Vs1 speeds. Setting the altimeter should be on the preflight checklist. Some aerobatics pilots set the altimeter to "0" on the ground so they don't have to convert MSL to AGL while flying close to the ground.
w5cdt 4 years ago
bad altimeter setting did this
freequeshowe 4 years ago
i was there for this show. When they started their part of the show the dimond took off first in formation, the plane that crashed was plane 5 also known as the first solo pilot. after review they determined that he had set his altimiter wrong so he did not have the proper altitude to pul off the stunt. after a few minutes the crowd was informed that he was ok and that the rest of the show was cancled. the pilot was released later that night with major bruses and minor cuts.
ericmcase 4 years ago
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
chaser678 4 years ago
not funny ok
californianfreedom 4 years ago
there was a crash in australia (canberra) that was a jet about 2 hit a field then it swereved and hit a building.
i have a bit of the cockpit
jacksonhammy 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
whats all them pathetic dumb american voices for?? bahhhhh bahhhhh?? thunderbirds knock it off??? silly dumb american fools.they so fukkin dumb. jesus dont ya just hate americans
EssexSOULman 4 years ago
You retard. Thats flight control calling the Thunderbirds to immediately stop the show. "thunderbirds knock it off..." Pilots reply by repeating what the tower stated and their thunderbird number i.e. "1 knock it off" "2 knock it off" "3 knock it off..." etc...
parallelworlds 4 years ago
but whats up with the bahhh!!! that they are saying?
DreamKastProductions 4 years ago
If we're dumb you're borderline retarded, since you can't even spell "fucking". Oh, and
"Thunderbirds, Knock it off" is the official terminology for "Cease all maneuvers". They pick one way of saying it, in order to avoid confusion in the cockpit, much like the way a pilot shouts "Eject! Eject! Eject!" if someone were to say the word eject, it may confuse a pilot and he may bail when he does not need to.
simmonstwopointzero 4 years ago 2
knock it offffffffffffffff
Holiganguc 4 years ago
the guy was like "thunder birds knock it-off!"
TTDMFfreak4590 4 years ago
Thats a tactical call from the Wing Lead. "Knock it Off" Refers to break formation, get safe, and wait for further instructions. If All the pilots were airborne at the time, they would split off into different directions, maintain a steady altitude, and hold that position/speed until the Wing Lead tells them to rejoin, or RTB (return to base)
PsyberMind 4 years ago
I'm pretty sure this call comes from the "Boss" or # 1 TB jet.
tikkihut58 4 years ago
It does.. TB1 is the Squadron Commander, However, if TB1 is the one to experience failure, then it goes by rank.
PsyberMind 4 years ago
OMG well i'm so glad they're safe...
xxmissxlgxx 4 years ago
wow, that was quite a crash. He didn't have enough altitude, therefore when he tried to go down, then back up, the wind took it and slammed the plane into the ground. I admire him for guiding it to where no people were. 0.8 seconds before it crashed, he bailed.
Yankees91594 4 years ago
i was there, i was 8 years old n airshow my favorite, also that guy survived too
LinklineHalo2 4 years ago
I'm going to their August 11, 12th, 2007 show in Niagara Falls. I pray nothin' like this happens!
CanadiAnnie 4 years ago
is poilot saved?
iumer 4 years ago
yes he ejected safely.
the8jrfan 4 years ago
holy shit i like thunder birds knock it off kool video
flightsimulator1012 4 years ago
Jesus
mikhailM4 4 years ago
The investigation of the crash discovered it was pilot error... He dieled in the wrong field altimiter setting. Instead of making the the turn at 2,000 ft above the field he made it at like 1,800 or so. My numbers are off cause i read about this along time ago but you get the idea.
Airgirl73 4 years ago
Are you a pilot? How much you know about planes?
lucianosato12 5 years ago
he started to low with to lowwer speed, when he starts to level out of can clairly see hes still gonig down.
leow626569 5 years ago
Holy cow...I think I saw him eject, but that was a flipping close call. .8 seconds...that's good reflexes!! Well he probably knew something was wrong.
Serasia 5 years ago
GOD DAMNIT. I am american and i just want to tell all the other americans that keep posting ignorant shit to shut the hell up and stop giving our country a bad fucking name. Is it so hard to just respect other peoples fucking opinions on who the best flight team is. JESUS. I myself think that the blue angels are the best but that does not mean i dont find all the other teams to be extremely talented.
eeeds2242 5 years ago
i don´t think a piloting error gives the us a bad name ... other things do that
sirtodi 4 years ago
;) indeed
makkuna 4 years ago
Hey "eeeds2242", both America and the Americans already have a really bad name. There's very little we can do to clear it up. This is, of course, not a personal remark, just in general, we all know that we, the people of the USA, do not enjoy a good name out there, even with our "glorious" army.
There are other things that make one nation a great nation. America somehow missed the whole point of being great about..hmm, let's see, yes, just about when it was founded..it's all temporary anyways.
kakudmi 4 years ago
"Pilot error (insufficient altitude) was later determined as the cause and the pilot, 31 year-old Captain Christopher Stricklin, was reassigned to a desk job at the Pentagon."
nawitus 5 years ago
poor bastard. well, that was the multi-million dollar plane we paid for in taxes. He's an idiot for being careless.
Tnig01 4 years ago
DAMN! Thunderbirds knock it off!
ADivaStarr88 5 years ago
DAMN! There goes the next promotion...
sprucefan 5 years ago
The pilots are acknowledging the "Knock it Off" radio call by the logistics officer on the ground. Through out the demonstration the Commander/Leader carries on "Sing Song" communications with all 6 jets so that every one knows what is happening. The solos also talk to the "Boss".
xtbird 5 years ago
Looks like a high speed stall to me.sounds like he checked off at 3500' at top
azframer 5 years ago
"Looks like a high speed stall to me."
No stall. Look again. Maybe the camera movement with the plane slowing gave you that impression.
He was simply too low.
succhiello 5 years ago
no you look at the angle of attack. his nose is pointed more up and plane is still coming down.when the air does not flow over the wing it is hitting the bottom of the wing and is causeing turbulence on top of wing not creating lift.i can't say what kind of wind speed he is flying in.since you takeoff into wind he is bottoming his loop on down wind. ground speed less wind speed means air speed might not be that great.
azframer 5 years ago
The wind is irrelevant to airspeed. The pilot simply started the maneuver too low, as he had his altimeter set incorrectly, and the plane hit the ground at the bottom. Stall or no stall, he would have hit the ground anyway.
Rickenbacker69 4 years ago
Well I can see you are just a armchair pilot,and never tried a downwind landing,Never mind when you grow up and really try flying you will have to know then, his nose was above the horizon and the plane was still going down,High speed stall!
azframer 4 years ago
First off, he didn't stall, he was too low. He climb to an incorrect altitude. He climb to 1670AGL instead of 2500AGL. BIG OOPSY!
Yes, it is an expensive plane, but give the guy a break. He knows he screwed up, but he's only human.
wmcnei3293 4 years ago
I did't say stall I said High speed stall he levels out and he is still going down
azframer 4 years ago
It's called Angle of attack or AOA, which means the planes flight direction is different than where the nose is pointed. the plane looks level with the ground but he's pulling a AOA of about -45 degrees. basicly the planes inertia from the dive forces it into the ground. He didn't stall
Knightfang1 4 years ago
damn those planes are so fucking expensive that millions and he just fucked on up, that sucks there goes his allowance
ruffrydas 5 years ago
Some of you people really need to get a life, T-birds rock, and I've tried some of their manuvers, so when you think they suck, remember that it is EXTREMELY difficult to do those types of manuvers
StarCraftF22 5 years ago
Damn that happen in Mt. Home, Idaho. I was there, it shit scary.
zea6thayec 5 years ago
i've seen a lot of speculation...it was in fact human error...i'm an aviation major at the university of illinois and i learned about this particular incident in an accident investigation class i took...he failed to set his altimeter properly...you have to set the current barometric pressure into the altimeter to insure it reads correctly, and he didn't...therefore he thought he was a couple hundred feet higher than he actually was, so he ended up being a little low at the bottom of the loop...
uiucpilot 5 years ago
that's the other members/planes of the air display team saying that and it means they are stopping any manouvers/stunts because something has gone wrong, obviously the thing that was wrong was shown in the vid
I think it's funny how they actually play that corny music at the actual show on the ground. The pilots always sound over exaggerated and weird, calm down.
airborne360 5 years ago
Exaggerated huh... Guess you have "ZERO" clue as to what you are speaking about.
LongbowPilot 5 years ago
i hear that. they have no clue.its more than just a roller coaster ride thats for damn sure.you really apachee pilot? if so you've pulled some g's in that.
azframer 5 years ago
there goes 20 million of your money
streetfireglenn 5 years ago
Much more than 20 mill. I think.
indpl2eD 5 years ago
Mountain Home AFB i was there when it happened! kind of scary :/
cludince 5 years ago
...it happens all the time, a pilot error.
Ted1712 5 years ago
Thunderbirds>Red Arrows because the Thunderbirds blow up their planes at the end! It's like a Who concert!
ads876689 5 years ago
lol where did he land with all that fire below him?
FenderBender2 5 years ago
He landed just behind it. In the .8 seconds between his seat ejecting and the plane hitting the ground, he slowed down and the plane sped up. Doesn't take long for that to be a significant distance, and he made just enough.
pseudotasuki 5 years ago
XA2I3RX: You say they are better, yet since when have you ever seen the reds crash??
fireball85 5 years ago
Pilot error, bad calculations...
EnZoNaMi 5 years ago
You know whats cool.....I was at that airshow...no joke
gilby78 5 years ago
Reference http://www.f-16.net/news_article968.html Earlier accident reports listed everything from engine flameout to "shock absorbers" (which don't exist) because the squadron commander refused to believe Thunderbird pilots performed pilot errors.
beelzbub 5 years ago
Official accident report: pilot error. He reverted back to his training routine at Nellis where the airfield is 1000 ft lower mean-sea-level, and topped out his split s 1000 ft too low. He was removed from the T-birds and works in the pentagon now. F15 flight commander -> T-bird pilot -> desk job.
beelzbub 5 years ago
BTW - I was USAF Air Traffic Control. "Knock it Off" means "abort." It's not used just when there's an emergency, but any time the flight lead wants to end the mission or exercise. But anyone can call KIO if there's a safety problem. In that case, it's exactly like a yellow flag on the NASCAR track - everyone stops what they are doing and reforms the formation and awaits further instructions.
KirbyWallace 5 years ago
I'm former USAF and even I like the Red Arrows better. TBirds are technical, clean-and-tight, block formation oriented. It's cool and all - real close, real coordinated... Red Arrow show I caught at Tyndall AFB... These guys came sauntering in like a bunch of drunken sailors from EVERY direction. Two over here, one over there, another sliding up from below. Complete controlled chaos! Way cool.
KirbyWallace 5 years ago
raised flaps too soon?!
EvOluTiOn91 5 years ago
Red Arrows..... dude thunderbirds>red arrows!
StarCraftF22 5 years ago
Can you say STALL? Expensive mistake.
swagbort 5 years ago
Yeah, he seriously gained altitude too quickly without gaining speed. That is an expensive mistake. I wonder what the penalties are for that. ... and the paperwork
foxorian 5 years ago
Hey guys Just "KNOCK IT OFF" with the negative comments..."KNOCK IT OFF"
BobLoomerhead 5 years ago
This woould never happen with the arrows, as they're very by the book, and fly as safe as a n00b pilot on his first solo. Now, the Frecce Tricolore, those are crazy, doing a "drunken pilot" pass at 15m over the runway. No time to eject if you f* that one up.
ForceFeedback 5 years ago
Cool!!! But not cool for the pilot....
greendayrpunk 5 years ago
i would like to all american military man die... for the good of the world...
waltershanghai 5 years ago
I would like you to learn ENGLISH if you are going to try to post a retarded comment for all to read. Genius!
XA2I3RX 5 years ago
jajajajaja!
RETARDED
waltershanghai 5 years ago
Nice comments, asshole. Learn how to speak English, then post. BTW, it would be great for the world if you were to die. Can you understand that or was it too difficult for you?
mlex169 5 years ago