@GDplusEng Well, the real goal is to abolish private property and class, as well as the state. However, that last goal tends to be forgotten in practice.
This guy is clearly an odd individual. Psychologically displaced due to a traumatic childhood, he seems to have let political categories totally define who he is. He clings to grievances because they give him the identity and purpose he lacks, as well as moral superiority to the "oppressor". That's always the appeal of the marxist/leftist ideology that he and others embrace. He's got one chip on his shoulder after another. He'll die still raging at everyone.
Communism proved itself to be nothing more than a system for empowering the most evil criminals: If you weren't as fanatical as the next guy you might be purged; if you didn't denounce others as "enemies of the revolution" first you might be denounced yourself.
Similarly, SOb coldly opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act just to keep his political résumé purer than Hillary, Boxer, even NARAL, who all supported it. Nevermind the evil he was defending.
@TheMunsam Marx is just the theory - and extremely limited at that. Actual experiments with his ideas have been run time and again, in the real world, with the same result. The Black Book of Communism contains ample evidence of its true manifestation. It's the same thing again and again. I think the empirical evidence is more compelling, especially given it involves countless deaths of individuals at the hands of their own government. Commie utopianism only persists because the dead are silent.
@horsie111 Marx outlined a set of morally guided principles concerning how society should work. Communism has absolutely nothing to do with genocide. To justify sidelining communism due to the failures of corrupt, mislead individuals is a nonsense.
The black book of communism offers nothing useful to the world except lies and hatred. Che Guevara rightly said that rather than look to evidence of communist failures, why is there no emphasis of the failures of capitalism in Africa, for instance?
@DizziNY1 Yeah......the top 10% of American own 71% of the wealth while the bottom 40% own less than 1%. Hardly fair is it. Anyway re-distribution of wealth has been part of American long before Obama, food stamp program? the taxpayer paying for the food of the poor. That is socialism and the program has been in place since 1939. I'd rather have a commie who cares about of the poor and vulnerable of America's society than a war warmongering red neck who cares about securing oil fields any day!
@98raza20 That's not socialism but social democracy(welfare state).
Socialism needs no redistribution of wealth nor does redistribution of wealth mean socialism. Socialism is an economical system. It means Democratic economy. Everyone has a say on how the company should be run.You elect your own bosses.
If obama is a communist then i guess i'm a communist too. oh wait, he's not. you need to look up what the definition of communism is and then make an argument that actually makes sense.
Communist -->Bloom started“We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money, ’cause they’re convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it’s an adults only no limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun." YOU decide if the statement is a joke as he told Congress. I say LIE
The russian hymn is fine. Classless society can be achieved only throgh proper management of intellect. Communists hate intelect so they'll never be successful, that is the main reason and the only one reason why all post communist countries are poor and fucked uo and will continue degrading in their ignorance and disrespect to one another and to all foreign. I would say for everyone what G-d has made him for. Communists are greedy and cheap. Communism is owned by the worst illuminatis.
Obama is not a communist. He's being slammed a communist because of his community organizing experience. Saul Alinsky originated modern community organizing. It has to nothing to do with communism. Marxism isn't the same as communism. Marxism was twisted by Stalin.
A wing of the school was called "Anarchist Hall" *Que foreboding music* this is ridiculous. Being a communist is a good thing! The problem with this country is there is no real left-wing. I like Obama and will vote for him again in 2012 but I just hope that he shows some more guts and starts moving a lot more to the left. He has some great socialist ideas, now he just needs to fight past the oil mafia Republican obstructionists and start implementing them.
@KneeDeepInTheDeadSSG I'm not a socialist or a communist, but I appluad your brain! You got balls to say that! and I appluad you for that! P.S. I'm not being saractic, I mean it. You got balls!
Communist tactics? Obama was democratically elected, by a majority of the American people in a free, open and fair election. Not a single Communist regime in history has come to power through elections, Lenin, Mao and Castro to name a few all came to power through coups.
@TheTollundWoman there never has been communist regime and you show your complete ignorance by claiming so...The Communist state represents the 3rd stage of Marxist Transition and NO state ever created has reahed the third stage of transition...for gods sake do some reading and stop spreading your lies and political prejudice as fact!
@TheTollundWoman Nonsense...again..total and absolute nonsense...Obama was not elected by the MAJORITY of the American people...Voting in America is NOT compulsory meaning that NO government ever truly represents a majority of the citizens..only a majority of those who can be bothered to vote..traditionally only about half of those registered ever bother to vote....don't talk shit!
and only so you know, if Obama would be allowed to go through with all of his reforms, USA would still be miles from communism, but most of all, a much better place!
@daveathor Capitalist but with socially responsible restraints, unlike here in the USA where we are sold out to industry like sheep to be shorn. Most Americans are politically ignorant and less than half vote so I suppose we get what we deserve. Just look at our politicians.
Another McCarthyite trash piece of baseless unsubstantiated propaganda the right wing hate industry is well and alive and subversive of anything rational
Whatever happened in Cambodia wasn't socialism. The idea that people were removed and separeted from their families and made to 'love' communism sounds rediculous. Many, however, will agree that Capitalism has the effect of reducing everything (including family relationships) to a mere financial transaction. Everything has a price and everyone has a place to play in the market.
The people serve the market, not the other way around.
@TheTollundWoman Nonsense....the Communist Manifesto was not Marxs' creation..it was the creation of several thinkers, the most influential being Frederich Engles..get a clue!
@TheTollundWoman.. again..total nonsense..Marx's reference to the "Abolition of Family" pertains to the exploitation of children at the hands of exploitative and oppressive parents.. that the true meaning of family has been convaluted, changed and undermined by the capitalist state..you have not elaborated on your simplistic wording and have been content to use present Marx's commentary in a prejudicial way...clearly you don't understand the Manifesto and have never read Das Kapital!
No, I haven't read Das Kapital, have you read "the Gulag Archipelago" or "Aquariums of Pyongyang"? there is a long list of books on my channel many of them about Communism, i suggest you read some of them. If you're at all interested in understanding what communism is in reality. of course if you want to ignore the facts and defend the worst genocides in history, go ahead. you won't be the first "useful idiot" (Lenin's words, not mine) to believe communist lies
@TheTollundWoman hi, thanks for your response - lets be real here shall we? I am not sure how you can possibly comment on anything to do with Socialism/Communism if you have never read the seminal work underpinning the ideology. let me be clear - there has NEVER been a Marxist State..ever! The states that have emerged under the guise of Marxism, and branded as Communist by the west have been absolute and total perversions...and be careful - presumed socialists have no monopoly on mass murder!
@TheTollundWoman I don't want to burst your bubble but I am extremely familiar with the ideology, it's underpinning tenets, the Hegelian dialectical roots of Marxism and the perversions conducted under the guise of Marxism ie. the failed attempts at transitioning capitalist economies into Marxist states..often at the point of a gun.
I do not care about the "ideology or its undermining tenets." I will say, 'dilamectical materialism' is repugnant to me, because it assumes that economic relationships are the only thing that matter, when in reality class is one of many social factors, not the sole determining factor, that influences the way people relate to each other. communists want to reduce all relationships, and society as a whole, to the meaningless labels of "bourgeiosie and proletariat"
@TheTollundWoman well thank you..at least by your own admission you are totally ignorant of the ideology and prefer to take a prejudiced view based on the interpretations of some of your favorite authors. I didn't mention "Dialectical Materialism"..I mentioned Hegelian Dialectics, clearly you don't know the difference because your not familiar with the underpinning tenets of the ideology. Dialectical Materialism is but one of many precepts underpinning Marxism. Your ignorance is now apparent.
I don't care about ideology! Why don't you understand that? I care about what the ideology leads to- and I know what the ideology Communism leads to, therefore I oppose it. you are the one who is either willfully ignorant, or in denial about, historical fact. Every communist govt. in history (with the possible exception of the paris commune which lenin harshly criticized) has been based on mass murder and state terror. and yet marxism is a noble ideal...right...
@TheTollundWoman ..ignorant ignorant woman...if you don't care about Ideology then you simply cannot engage effectively about the validity or invalidity of the political philosophy you lambaste... Nobody defended Lenin and clearly you are not reading my posts carefully enough. I am satisfied that you are an ignoramus..moreover..I would ask you to site your sources re 5 million dead under Lenin.
@TheTollundWoman This is your source for the claims you make against Lenin???...I challenge that figure and suggest it would impossible to calculate how many people died as a direct result of war-communism, and I challenge you to source your claims effectively and accurately instead of paraphrasing your favorite authors to satisfy your prejudices.
@TheTollundWoman I have quoted Marx once and not in relation to stats...just ideological validity. Solzhenitsyn, like all historians, brings personal baggage to the equation and writes with his prejudices intact..I suggest to you that those figures are incorrect and that any figure reached would be guess work...few records were logged or kept...it's nothing more than guess work and you have a responsibility to acknowledge that lest you be accused of engaging in intellectual dishonesty..Fair?
there never has been communist regime and you show your complete ignorance by claiming so...The Communist state represents the 3rd stage of Marxist Transition and NO state ever created has reached the third stage of transition...for gods sake do some reading and stop spreading your lies and political prejudice as fact!
@TheTollundWoman Not true. Marx talks about his disgust at the fact that the Bourgoise claim to prize the family unit whilst the family is, in reality, treated as a tool of the market.
Marx believed that the freemarket would destroy the family (much as it has destroyed everything else).
Strange how so people call Obama a Communist. Is this because they are racists who will do anything to scaremonger the American public? The old 'C' word always does the trick.
Trust me, Obama is not a Communist, if he were I would already be dead. Every Communist regime in history took power either through violent revolution and terrorism, like the Bolsheviks in Russia and the Maoists in China, or through foreign intervention/imperialism, like in Poland and N. Korea where the Soviets set up puppet "satellite" states. Obama, in contrast, came to power peacefully through a democratic election. And he hasn't collectivized anything...
If Obama were Communist he would've already repeated the Bill of Rights and scrapped most of the constitution, disbanded the Senate and housee of representatives just like Bolsheviks closed the Constituent Assembly, forcibly collectivized all agriculture and industry, and fulfilled Sarah Palin's wish of having America help our "North Korean allies." He's done none of these things. Ergo, he's NOT a Communist
People call Obama a Communist for the same reason they called Bush a Nazi. To get people's attention by making a ridiculous exageration bordering on libel. If Obama were a Communist the Tea Party would've been crushed with tanks. and the Republic and Green parties, and the socialist party, and the libertarian party would all be illegal.
Why do Communist sympathizers always feel the need to insult their opponents, by calling anyone who disagrees with them "dim" or an idiot? As if everyone whose opinion differs theirs is automatically inferior? and i don't care what Marx *said*. I care what his followers (lenin, kim il sung, mao...) *did*.
@TheTollundWoman Problem is that to judge Communism by looking at Mao etc. is a bit like saying that Christianity is evil because of David Koresh. Marx would turn in his grave at the way his name was used in these regimes.
You are badly mis-informed and your opinions are borderline stereotype.
The good news is that Capitalism will, sooner or later, self destruct. That is self evident.
They say an open mind is the essence of intellect. Would you like me to explain that to you?
Capitalism will self-destruct? Marx predicted that in the mid 1800s, and his followers have been predicting it ever since, but lets look at the facts. Capitalism has survived innumerable recessions, depresions and full-fledged collapses, and has always rebounded and corrected its past errors,. in every country where Communism has been imposed, dire poverty and mass starvation has been the result. It is communism, not capitalism, that has self-destructed
a great quote. unfortunately in the context of this debate its judgemental in the extreme. my opposition to communism is not a sign of "close-mindedness", anymore than my hostility to fascism is a sign of intolerance. You say Marx would "turn in his grave" if he knew what his followers are doing.. Marx, the man who called for a "revolutionary holocaust" and a "dictatorship of the proletariat", who said "revolutionary terrorism will shorten the birth pangs of the new society"?
Here's the difference. Neither the Catholic church, nor any of the Protestant churches, nor the Orthodox church, ever defended Koresh's actions, in fact they loudly condemned them. Christian theologians, bishops, etc. didn't rush to the defense of Koresh or proclaim him a hero. But Communist parties around the world regard Lenin, Che Guevara and Mao as revolutionary heroes, and regard Leninism, Maosim, Juche etc. not as the murderous systems they are, but as great ideals
@TheTollundWoman I think you need to read more...You would need to understand what Cuba was like under the corrupt, mafia supported leadership of Batista to understand why Che is regarded as a hero and Liberator. So too, you would need to understand how appalling was the ramifications of the first world war and Tsarism in Russia to understand why Lenin is regarded as a liberator...Mao is simply an enigma...a living perversion and more a nationalist than a committed Marxist.
When the Tsar was in power an average 17 people were executed a year. When Lenin came to power tens of thousands were executed every month. Yes, the tsar was an autocrat. but by the time of the 1917 october revolution his monarchy had been replaced with a democratic legislature, first the Duma and then the constituent assembly. learn about kerensky then get back to me
@TheTollundWoman Kerensky was socialist lawyer ...you are advocating for a Marxist lawyer??..What would you like to nnow about Mr Kerensky..clearly you don't know much at all....The Duma was not a truly democratic institution at all..indeed there was a very limited franchise and at no time during Kerensky's reign did a full and unfettered election take place...Kerensky was the one who first created the Soviet...Lenin and Trotsky would keep the Soviet idea and transform it ....
Yes. I am advocating a "marxist lawyer" who fled Russia the second the Bolsheviks took over. I also admire the Social Revolutionaries, Mensheviks and Bundists, despite being socialists they had the courage and decency to oppose the Bolsheviks! and for that, they have my deep respect.
@TheTollundWoman The Bolsheviks and Mensheviks wanted to negotiate an outcome with the social conservatives...Kerensky completely ignored the need to end the war despite hundreds of thousands of desertions and millions of deaths and children and women filling the ranks of the fallen..is this the humanity of Kerensky that you so admire???
Of course Tsarist russia had problems, but this justifies Lenin killing over five million people?? I think not. The Weimar republic was corrupt and ineffective too, and was largely controlled by the aristocracy...does that help you "understand" why Hitler was "regarded as a hero" by so many Germans? Batista was scum, but Che killed far more people.
@TheTollundWoman of course Tsarist Russia had problems...nobody knows how many people went missing under Tsarist Russia...an illiberal, militaristic, autocratic state in which nobody had the right of political representation...the Tsar led Russia into a war that cost more than 5 million Russian lives..do some reading!
People did have the right of political representation. Ever heard of the Duma and the Constituent Assembly? You are correct that for most of its history the Tsarist system was unspeakably brutal. But by 1917 the system was undergoing massive reforms. And Kerensky, despite being a socialist, fled Russia when the Bolsheviks came to power, because he feared for his life under the new regime. what does this say about the supposedly humane Bolsheviks?
Kerensky fled because he was secretly negotiating with the Germans while prosecuting the war, he openly lied to the DUMA three times...see Richard Pipes "Russia under the old regime"...oxford uni press. The Soviet in Petrograd were happy to see the back of Kerensky and switched their support to the Bolsheviks..useful idiots I'd say!!!..so too the Military joined the Red Guard on masse...the people spoke..Kerensky just didn't hear them!..again see Richard Pipes!
Yes, the Tsar led Russia into ww1, which cost more than 5 million Russian lives. and Lenin led Russia into Communism, which cost Russia 60 MILLION lives. Of course, the Tsarist system needed a massive overhaul, much like the British monarchy. But the Communists' pretending to be against monarchy is laughable, why don't you condemn the hereditary succession happening *today*...in COMMUNIST north Korea
@TheTollundWoman The DUMA was a joke..it operated like the British Parliament under Charles II....the Tsar was in no way responsible to the Duma nor compelled to respond to its request...Tsarist Russia was governed by decree..do you understand this? In fact the Russian Tsars called the DUMA together for advice just 3 times in 150 years....as a representative body it was a joke!
@TheTollundWoman...so..the Nazis took power in German with the same % of res...I think you'll find that the Bolsheviks were the largest single bloc of votes in the assembly. Lenin used his numbers to make the assembly redundant....and it was!
Respond to this video... again..I challenge you to source your claims..60 million deaths under Communism?.. hang on i am holding my side laughing....ok..once your source is sited you obviously need to be told yet again...there has NEVER been a Marxist regime in existence...and any regime under any guise that doesn't allow for political representation for its citizenry is moribund. North Korea is a Stalinist style dictatorship and a really bad example to use.
@TheTollundWoman I am against any perversion of ideology that results in the deaths of innocent people...and I am careful enough not to attribute a political ideology to people who depart from the tenets of the ideology they purport to represent. Lenin fits into this category...Interestingly you failed to mention the brutal civil war that was fought post 1917 Russia....conveniently you have failed to mention this to boost the claim to innocent deaths under the Bolsheviks..it's disingenuous.
Do Christians around the world put Koresh's face on their t-shirt and wear it with pride to show their support for the revolution? No, I don't think so. But Communists put Che and Mao's pictures on t-shirts as if they were movie stars, and not mass murderers. Why?
@TheTollundWoman Those wishing to attack Christianity would be stupid to make a comparison between Christ and Koresh, very different men with very different ideas but both linked through christian ideals...and yet you apply this very approach with Marxism ...why?
@gracie1232 most of these people wouldn't know a Communist if they fell over one - they work from the point that they are politically enlightened and Communists are deluded. No chance of a compelling and engaging debate with people who come to the table of discussion with these prejudices intact.
@NativeSupport LOL, you whine like a little child. I’ve got a pretty good indication of what you’ve donated, given the level of sophistication you’ve shown to this point - Zero. You do give out plenty of excuses though. Throwing another temper tantrum won’t help your cause any either, but if it makes you feel better princess, you go ahead and get it out of your system.
@NativeSupport Should you really be sending me your comments when you have that law suit against me pending? LOL. Seriously, you can get as mad at me as you want and it really wont change anything for you. You talk big and act small. Instead of giving money to your cause, you give excuses. So go ahead and have your temper tantrums if you think it will help.
@NativeSupport LOL, what are you, 12 years old? Actively into activism? What does that even mean? Oh no, you’re going to sue me, how frightening. Go for it retard. How can I discredit something that doesn’t exist? Sitting around with your little socialist friends, discussing how your going to change things when you grow up, doesn’t make you an activist, idiot. Stop talking big and go do something for real, you fraud.
@NativeSupport Stop trying to justify your cowardice. You stated that you don’t care about the Dutch people. You consider yourself an activist. Stop whining and go do something constructive. You can find a way to afford to do it if it’s what you want to do, but you don’t. That, more than anything else, makes you a fraud.
@NativeSupport Oh, I get it. You’re a typical socialist. Big talk, no action. Throw other peoples money at problems and never lift a finger to do anything yourself. You have no real convictions. There are many charitable institutions that work with the very people you pretend to care about so much about. You could get there through them, but it’s more comfortable for you to pretend to care over the internet than to do anything that would require real sacrifice on your part.
@NativeSupport My business is none of your business. Not everyone works a 9 to noon government job. Ah, battle cry of the socialist. “Give me everything and I’ll think about backing up my words with actions.” You don’t need a private jet, Bono. Just pick one people and go to them.
@NativeSupport You have an exaggerated opinion of yourself, that’s obvious. Your out to solve the world’s problems by throwing other people’s money at them, in typical socialist fashion. You don’t care about the Dutch? Why don’t you go live among the people you do care about then, hypocrite? Why don’t you help them directly instead of whining about their plight on the internet?
@NativeSupport Hey, I’m not the one who’s sensitive about name calling, jackass. You can call me whatever you want. You have no effect on me in this regard mainly because, at this point, I have no respect for you. You are a socialist hypocrite, nothing more.
@NativeSupport Your profile says nothing about Netherlands, check it out sometime. The real moron, that would be the socialist hypocrite who takes up the cause of a people they know nothing about and have no vested interest in, while ignoring the peoples put under the thumb of their own peoples colonial past. Back to your mantra, idiot.
@NativeSupport Actually the Dutch had colonies all over the world. You saying there was no oppression of those indigenous peoples? You really are a moron.
@NativeSupport Do they have a lot of First Nations Peoples in The Netherlands? Or are you pretending to be from somewhere else today. I couldn’t help but notice your profile still doesn’t include your country.
@NativeSupport The fact that you’re looking at taking on the cause of first nations people instead of looking at the peoples who were under the thumb of your own nation makes you a hypocrite. Just because I embarrassed you into revealing your profile doesn’t make you a hero. Why is a channel profile even relevant? Your’s is limited (friends locked). BTW, for a freak, you sure do call a lot of other people “freak“.
@NativeSupport No, you are a fraud. You keep your profile as vague as possible in order to be a fraud. You pretend to be a native supporter because you feel it is safe to do so and you can take the “high moral ground”. You avoid posting your nationality in order to avoid your own peoples’ colonial past. Now you can go back to chanting your mantra, phoney. Feel better now?
No, you are a fraud. You keep your profile as vague as possible in order to be a fraud. You pretend to be a native supporter because you feel it is safe to do so and you can take the “high moral ground”. You avoid posting your nationality in order to avoid your own peoples’ colonial past. Now you can go back to chanting your mantra, phoney.
@NativeSupport So far you haven’t been very good at the truth. At least I’m not ashamed to post my country of origin. Like most socialists, communists, and anarchists you can’t seem to decide what you are. Today you pretend to be Dutch or Native American activist. Tomorrow you’ll be calling yourself an environmentalist. If that goes out of fashion you’ll change to homeless crusader or community organizer. Anything to push your political agenda.
@NativeSupport I’m not Russian, moron. You started this with that idiotic comment you sent, and then failed to back up. You then drifted from subject to subject in a pathetic attempt to score some sort of victory in your own mind. If you want to stop, then stop. Or do you need some multi-million dollar, taxpayer paid, government social welfare program set up to do that for you?
@NativeSupport As I stated, you don’t have any views. You just recycle the views of those around you. Now why don’t you go chant, “Greenspan, credit card Capitalist, and neo-liberalism” until your blue in the face. If you want to see a speculator who follows the masses and doesn’t know shit, just read your own comments sometimes.
@NativeSupport I’m not an American, why don’t YOU read profiles? As far as your explaining your views on socialism, forget it. I’ve come to realize the reason you drift from subject to subject is that you don’t really have any arguments of your own. You’re just parroting the crap you’ve heard from others around you and really haven’t ever questioned anything yourself. That’s been obvious since your first statement.
@NativeSupport Why would someone from the Netherlands be passing themselves off as a first nations native? Why has your defence of Communism and Socialism now degenerated into mindless America bashing? Do you have any real information to express or is your mind too full of idiotic slogans and propaganda?
@NativeSupport You’ve already demonstrated your lack of political knowledge. Please explain to me exactly what you believe Socialism to be. Have you already forgotten about Obama’s massive stimulus package? The trouble in Europe was brewing for a long time thanks to years of tax and spend socialist policies. Your grasp of economics is as pathetic as your grasp of politics. BTW it’s Europe that gets it’s oil from Libya. Protest that.
@NativeSupport And since you’re talking about national debt, how is Obama’s multi-trillion dollar socialist spending spree working for you? He makes every President before him look like an amateur when it comes to running up debt.
@NativeSupport Socialism’s working really great in Europe now isn’t it? We’ve seen the collapse of the Irish and Greek economies and protests in France and England over government cutbacks. There is no magic pot of money for the government to draw from, it’s eventually the taxpayer that carries the burden.
@NativeSupport It’s funny how every time we go through a down market we get people pronouncing the end of Capitalism, and every time the markets recover, they disappear. Meanwhile, the USSR which was richly abundant in natural resources, goes bankrupt and these same people conveniently don’t seem to notice. Does it require selective ignorance to be a Communist, or is a strong entitlement mentality enough?
@NativeSupport So you would replace a Capitalist economy with upward and downward movements that, over time, moves in an upward direction - with one like Communism, that steadily declines over time and eventually and inevitably bankrupts the state? Why is it that people who have no clue how the economy works always want to control it? Why is it that Nazi’s and Communists can only seize power when a nation is under severe distress?
I pray we can make it 1 1/2 more years. Unforgivable shame on those who refused to see all of the evidence that was plainly in front of them, and cast their vote to prove they were not 'racist'.
i would like to see the U.S. become communist, there could still be freedom, people could still pick there jobs, hell there can still be elections, except the gov. controls the economy and shit i think the nation having money and using it to better the nation is better that a company having money with one man having most of it and buying a car, previous communist nations where and are dictatorships and mostly corrupt, america should prove to the world that communism can work
@bigmathafaka Communists can pick their jobs. What planet are you living on? Communism is a failed industrial age system that never worked and resulted in the murder of over 100 million people. Even the scumbag Nazi’s couldn’t compare to that. Are you really convinced that we need to keep giving them another chance? You couldn’t really be that stupid could you? Please tell me you’re joking.
@primpal08 in an ideal communist nation or the way i should be communism can work, but several communist nations gave it up and became dictatorships like China or the USSR, communism hasn't worked in the past cause the nations it was used in had corrupt governments or were simply too poor
@bigmathafaka Gee, imagine that. A system where the government controls everything, including the media, and it becomes corrupt. How could it not become corrupt?
@bigmathafaka No, in this case it’s not truly a communist state. China for instance is currently communist in name only. When they allow free market trading, business ownership, and property rights, they are no longer communist. China would best be described as a left wing dictatorship at this point. They saw the inevitable collapse coming from maintaining the communist system and started making changes. Go to North Korea and make pro-Capitalist statements sometime.
OK this guy is a fat troll and don't call him a capitalist pig because capitalism works. communism unfortunately doesn't because of greed in human nature and it's unfortunate and sad. Still though, a doctor getting paid as much as a janitor is pretty sketchy though don't you think? Marx had a great vision but it only works in theory. Notice how almost all communist countries go from a democracy/ republic to a dictatorship.
There is so much bias about communism and barack obama with these sensational things... and the major population just follow some minor population that do some smoke without fire! What!? If I read a book about communism makes me a communist? Wake up! Why are people so much blind about conspiracy?
YES THERE IS CONSPIRACY IN THE WORLD BUT LOOK FOR THE FACTS! DONT EAT EVERYTHING THEY KNOW YOU WILL EAT!
We cannot expect the Americans to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of Socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism.
@richardsvinal No, but a bunch of inbred right-wing idiots label him as one in order to make him seem more radical than he is. Obama is a liberal politician which does not mean he is a Socialist or a Communist (although personally I'd prefer it if he was a Socialist).
i just love the horror movie music XD like the how it was called....Anarchy hall!! dun! dun! dun! my God, Obama's behind you with a hammer and sickle! but dont turn round or he might provide free healthcare!! XD sorry, im showing no reason, but this is youtube!! yay!!
What I don't get is why Americans hear "Communism" or anything remotely 'left-wing', and are immediately terrified. A bit of socialism is good for a country (free healthcare *cough cough*). Just because someone read Marx, doesn't make them an evil Commie - it makes them someone who has expanded their mind beyond Capitalism and looked at alternatives. It doesn't mean he's going to turn America into Cambodia, or become like Stalin, for fuck sakes...
@TalonWolf Hello,In newspaper with front page Obama victory, Illinois Lottery's draw was 666 on Page 2, Bible's Mark of the Beast, announcing Antichrist.
Also, it can be seen Obama has many, severe head-scars. Bible states "Antichrist suffers mortal head-wound". Calculating Antichrist's 42 months rule, starting from Obama's July/ Aug/Sept 2007 rise in the run for POTUS, 42 months is just now Jan/Feb
lol, do some research, stalinism and maoism is not the same as marxism or socialism.but this was really funny. if you knew what communism is, and not what you learn that it is,you would have another wiev. did you for example know that the usa has been selfish murders even before it was a country? huntings of native americans, anti-socialistic campains in latin america and asia? or the oil adventure in iraq? real communism is freedom of speach, usa is freedom of speach if you agree with usa.
The real problem for Distressed patriot is that Obama is black..why do these right wing assholes always refer to themselves as patriots>?
Realityseekerman 1 week ago
Silliest possible video. Somewhat intelligent conversation in comments. Peculiar.
JamboCordoba 2 months ago
What is communism anyway?
GDplusEng 2 months ago
@GDplusEng Well, the real goal is to abolish private property and class, as well as the state. However, that last goal tends to be forgotten in practice.
redundantstudios 3 days ago
This guy is clearly an odd individual. Psychologically displaced due to a traumatic childhood, he seems to have let political categories totally define who he is. He clings to grievances because they give him the identity and purpose he lacks, as well as moral superiority to the "oppressor". That's always the appeal of the marxist/leftist ideology that he and others embrace. He's got one chip on his shoulder after another. He'll die still raging at everyone.
horsie111 2 months ago
Communism proved itself to be nothing more than a system for empowering the most evil criminals: If you weren't as fanatical as the next guy you might be purged; if you didn't denounce others as "enemies of the revolution" first you might be denounced yourself.
Similarly, SOb coldly opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act just to keep his political résumé purer than Hillary, Boxer, even NARAL, who all supported it. Nevermind the evil he was defending.
Obama: the most evil Marxist wins
horsie111 2 months ago
@horsie111 i think you need another read of Marx who you claim to know so much about.
'Purging' is about as much a concept of communism as kindness is of capitalism.
Don't be thick.
TheMunsam 2 months ago
@TheMunsam Marx is just the theory - and extremely limited at that. Actual experiments with his ideas have been run time and again, in the real world, with the same result. The Black Book of Communism contains ample evidence of its true manifestation. It's the same thing again and again. I think the empirical evidence is more compelling, especially given it involves countless deaths of individuals at the hands of their own government. Commie utopianism only persists because the dead are silent.
horsie111 2 months ago
@horsie111 Marx outlined a set of morally guided principles concerning how society should work. Communism has absolutely nothing to do with genocide. To justify sidelining communism due to the failures of corrupt, mislead individuals is a nonsense.
The black book of communism offers nothing useful to the world except lies and hatred. Che Guevara rightly said that rather than look to evidence of communist failures, why is there no emphasis of the failures of capitalism in Africa, for instance?
TheMunsam 2 months ago
The communist manifesto is inspirational.
I think 'what's so good about capitalism' is a question you may need to think about guys...
TheMunsam 2 months ago
disgusting communists.
RFWUSA 3 months ago
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More bullshit. I am no particular fan of Obama but only complete fucking idiots would actually think he dont is a communist.
nfsmw6 3 months ago
Why do so many people make such a fuss about Hitler killing 6,000,000 and they don't even think that 145,000,000 died under communism.
KirbyComicsVids 3 months ago
I literally felt chills going up and down my spine!
KirbyComicsVids 3 months ago
comunism is the best system out there
JesseusM 3 months ago
Re-distribution of wealth is a tenet of Marxism. oDUMBo believes in it.
DizziNY1 4 months ago
@DizziNY1 Yeah......the top 10% of American own 71% of the wealth while the bottom 40% own less than 1%. Hardly fair is it. Anyway re-distribution of wealth has been part of American long before Obama, food stamp program? the taxpayer paying for the food of the poor. That is socialism and the program has been in place since 1939. I'd rather have a commie who cares about of the poor and vulnerable of America's society than a war warmongering red neck who cares about securing oil fields any day!
98raza20 3 months ago
@98raza20 That's not socialism but social democracy(welfare state).
Socialism needs no redistribution of wealth nor does redistribution of wealth mean socialism. Socialism is an economical system. It means Democratic economy. Everyone has a say on how the company should be run.You elect your own bosses.
SloveintzWend 3 months ago
If obama is a communist then i guess i'm a communist too. oh wait, he's not. you need to look up what the definition of communism is and then make an argument that actually makes sense.
warez1911 5 months ago
i thought this was serious untill i saw, "sputnik= fellow traveler in russian"
LOL.
MrSolve11 6 months ago
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Communist -->Bloom started“We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money, ’cause they’re convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it’s an adults only no limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun." YOU decide if the statement is a joke as he told Congress. I say LIE
vechorik 5 months ago
@MrSolve11 It means satilite, companion, attendant....... all are fellow traveler. sorry but it is serious.
Fr33Gangsta3 3 months ago
hahahahahahahahaha!!
1957attilazaborszky 6 months ago
More bullshit. I am no particular fan of Obama but only complete fucking idiots would actually think he is a communist.
bikerboygeoff 6 months ago
LOL
Great satire.
GreatGungHolio 6 months ago
The russian hymn is fine. Classless society can be achieved only throgh proper management of intellect. Communists hate intelect so they'll never be successful, that is the main reason and the only one reason why all post communist countries are poor and fucked uo and will continue degrading in their ignorance and disrespect to one another and to all foreign. I would say for everyone what G-d has made him for. Communists are greedy and cheap. Communism is owned by the worst illuminatis.
SomeUser9753 7 months ago
This video brought to you by... "Rush Beck" productions! Strictly for comedic consumption.
animale963 7 months ago
I see Obama's communist defenders are out in force here. "Hid the truth! Pravda!"
DouglasJBender 7 months ago
Is this a joke? LOL.
The lenders of Obama are surely not communists.
BrannBronzebeard 7 months ago
PHOTOSHOP SAYS OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST!
Bushinoeight 8 months ago in playlist Obamarx
Why am I laughing so hard?
lazysoupness 8 months ago
you republicans make me laugh. you're bonkers.
Scouser1917 8 months ago
Where is the Fail button?
TheDakota671 8 months ago
I LOL'd HARD. Someone doesn't know shit about Marxism if he thinks that OBAMA fuck is gonna bring us to anything Marx dreamed.
battousai9439 8 months ago
I LOL'd
OpenInsanity 8 months ago
Obama is not a communist. He's being slammed a communist because of his community organizing experience. Saul Alinsky originated modern community organizing. It has to nothing to do with communism. Marxism isn't the same as communism. Marxism was twisted by Stalin.
fomalhauto 8 months ago
hahahahahahhaha xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
more anti-communist propagada i've ever seen :D the red scare is still present in the US i see :)
Rabican030 8 months ago
A wing of the school was called "Anarchist Hall" *Que foreboding music* this is ridiculous. Being a communist is a good thing! The problem with this country is there is no real left-wing. I like Obama and will vote for him again in 2012 but I just hope that he shows some more guts and starts moving a lot more to the left. He has some great socialist ideas, now he just needs to fight past the oil mafia Republican obstructionists and start implementing them.
KneeDeepInTheDeadSSG 8 months ago 2
@KneeDeepInTheDeadSSG I'm not a socialist or a communist, but I appluad your brain! You got balls to say that! and I appluad you for that! P.S. I'm not being saractic, I mean it. You got balls!
123Questionman 8 months ago
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@KneeDeepInTheDeadSSG So you like getting fucked in the ass.....
sharpshootertrigga 7 months ago
This is idiotic tinfoil hat nonsense at it's most absurd.
lunhil12 8 months ago
Communist tactics? Obama was democratically elected, by a majority of the American people in a free, open and fair election. Not a single Communist regime in history has come to power through elections, Lenin, Mao and Castro to name a few all came to power through coups.
TheTollundWoman 9 months ago
@TheTollundWoman there never has been communist regime and you show your complete ignorance by claiming so...The Communist state represents the 3rd stage of Marxist Transition and NO state ever created has reahed the third stage of transition...for gods sake do some reading and stop spreading your lies and political prejudice as fact!
cheechnchongsbong 9 months ago
@TheTollundWoman Nonsense...again..total and absolute nonsense...Obama was not elected by the MAJORITY of the American people...Voting in America is NOT compulsory meaning that NO government ever truly represents a majority of the citizens..only a majority of those who can be bothered to vote..traditionally only about half of those registered ever bother to vote....don't talk shit!
cheechnchongsbong 9 months ago
and only so you know, if Obama would be allowed to go through with all of his reforms, USA would still be miles from communism, but most of all, a much better place!
daveathor 9 months ago
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@daveathor He lies to you and you like it.
You little bitch you.
sharpshootertrigga 7 months ago
another fun fact, there were no nuclear missiles on cube...
daveathor 9 months ago
Well, i'm from sweden, one of the more "communistic" countries in the world, apparently...
less than 1% vote for "communistic" parties nowadays
i've grown up in Stockholm at first, which is the stronghold of the moderates, our republicans
then on the countryside, the stronghold of our centrists
everyone in my family for generations have been on the right side
but that doesn't mean im there, i'm one of those that actually might vote for the communistic parties, influences have no say!!!...
daveathor 9 months ago
@daveathor Capitalist but with socially responsible restraints, unlike here in the USA where we are sold out to industry like sheep to be shorn. Most Americans are politically ignorant and less than half vote so I suppose we get what we deserve. Just look at our politicians.
lunhil12 8 months ago
This is wonderfully done propaganda. I must say I really enjoyed it. I laughed...
ShahidMiller 9 months ago
This is a total load of Right-wing idiocy and propaganda
Since when would a Church, a religious place, teach Marxism, which says that people should be freed from religion?
FarLeftRevolution 9 months ago
Another McCarthyite trash piece of baseless unsubstantiated propaganda the right wing hate industry is well and alive and subversive of anything rational
AndrewStergiou 9 months ago
Another McCarthyite trash piece of baseless unsubstantiated propaganda
AndrewStergiou 9 months ago
This is capitalist propoganda.
Whatever happened in Cambodia wasn't socialism. The idea that people were removed and separeted from their families and made to 'love' communism sounds rediculous. Many, however, will agree that Capitalism has the effect of reducing everything (including family relationships) to a mere financial transaction. Everything has a price and everyone has a place to play in the market.
The people serve the market, not the other way around.
Now there's evil for you.....
gracie1232 9 months ago
@gracie1232
Marx calls for the abolition of the family. Its very clearly stated in the Communist Manifesto.
TheTollundWoman 9 months ago
@TheTollundWoman Nonsense....the Communist Manifesto was not Marxs' creation..it was the creation of several thinkers, the most influential being Frederich Engles..get a clue!
cheechnchongsbong 9 months ago
@TheTollundWoman.. again..total nonsense..Marx's reference to the "Abolition of Family" pertains to the exploitation of children at the hands of exploitative and oppressive parents.. that the true meaning of family has been convaluted, changed and undermined by the capitalist state..you have not elaborated on your simplistic wording and have been content to use present Marx's commentary in a prejudicial way...clearly you don't understand the Manifesto and have never read Das Kapital!
cheechnchongsbong 9 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
I will read Marx, when you have read Kang Chol-Hwan.
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
No, I haven't read Das Kapital, have you read "the Gulag Archipelago" or "Aquariums of Pyongyang"? there is a long list of books on my channel many of them about Communism, i suggest you read some of them. If you're at all interested in understanding what communism is in reality. of course if you want to ignore the facts and defend the worst genocides in history, go ahead. you won't be the first "useful idiot" (Lenin's words, not mine) to believe communist lies
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman hi, thanks for your response - lets be real here shall we? I am not sure how you can possibly comment on anything to do with Socialism/Communism if you have never read the seminal work underpinning the ideology. let me be clear - there has NEVER been a Marxist State..ever! The states that have emerged under the guise of Marxism, and branded as Communist by the west have been absolute and total perversions...and be careful - presumed socialists have no monopoly on mass murder!
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman I don't want to burst your bubble but I am extremely familiar with the ideology, it's underpinning tenets, the Hegelian dialectical roots of Marxism and the perversions conducted under the guise of Marxism ie. the failed attempts at transitioning capitalist economies into Marxist states..often at the point of a gun.
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
I do not care about the "ideology or its undermining tenets." I will say, 'dilamectical materialism' is repugnant to me, because it assumes that economic relationships are the only thing that matter, when in reality class is one of many social factors, not the sole determining factor, that influences the way people relate to each other. communists want to reduce all relationships, and society as a whole, to the meaningless labels of "bourgeiosie and proletariat"
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman well thank you..at least by your own admission you are totally ignorant of the ideology and prefer to take a prejudiced view based on the interpretations of some of your favorite authors. I didn't mention "Dialectical Materialism"..I mentioned Hegelian Dialectics, clearly you don't know the difference because your not familiar with the underpinning tenets of the ideology. Dialectical Materialism is but one of many precepts underpinning Marxism. Your ignorance is now apparent.
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
I don't care about ideology! Why don't you understand that? I care about what the ideology leads to- and I know what the ideology Communism leads to, therefore I oppose it. you are the one who is either willfully ignorant, or in denial about, historical fact. Every communist govt. in history (with the possible exception of the paris commune which lenin harshly criticized) has been based on mass murder and state terror. and yet marxism is a noble ideal...right...
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman ..ignorant ignorant woman...if you don't care about Ideology then you simply cannot engage effectively about the validity or invalidity of the political philosophy you lambaste... Nobody defended Lenin and clearly you are not reading my posts carefully enough. I am satisfied that you are an ignoramus..moreover..I would ask you to site your sources re 5 million dead under Lenin.
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
My source about Lenin is Solzhenitsyn's book "The GULag archipelago". anyway, i'm not against communist ideology. just the system it has led to.
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman This is your source for the claims you make against Lenin???...I challenge that figure and suggest it would impossible to calculate how many people died as a direct result of war-communism, and I challenge you to source your claims effectively and accurately instead of paraphrasing your favorite authors to satisfy your prejudices.
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
Solzhenitsyn was a renowned historian and nobel laureate. If you can quote Marx I'll feel free to quote Solzhenitsyn. fair's fair
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman I have quoted Marx once and not in relation to stats...just ideological validity. Solzhenitsyn, like all historians, brings personal baggage to the equation and writes with his prejudices intact..I suggest to you that those figures are incorrect and that any figure reached would be guess work...few records were logged or kept...it's nothing more than guess work and you have a responsibility to acknowledge that lest you be accused of engaging in intellectual dishonesty..Fair?
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
there never has been communist regime and you show your complete ignorance by claiming so...The Communist state represents the 3rd stage of Marxist Transition and NO state ever created has reached the third stage of transition...for gods sake do some reading and stop spreading your lies and political prejudice as fact!
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman Not true. Marx talks about his disgust at the fact that the Bourgoise claim to prize the family unit whilst the family is, in reality, treated as a tool of the market.
Marx believed that the freemarket would destroy the family (much as it has destroyed everything else).
Strange how so people call Obama a Communist. Is this because they are racists who will do anything to scaremonger the American public? The old 'C' word always does the trick.
At least everyone's no to dim.
gracie1232 8 months ago
@gracie1232
Trust me, Obama is not a Communist, if he were I would already be dead. Every Communist regime in history took power either through violent revolution and terrorism, like the Bolsheviks in Russia and the Maoists in China, or through foreign intervention/imperialism, like in Poland and N. Korea where the Soviets set up puppet "satellite" states. Obama, in contrast, came to power peacefully through a democratic election. And he hasn't collectivized anything...
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@gracie1232
If Obama were Communist he would've already repeated the Bill of Rights and scrapped most of the constitution, disbanded the Senate and housee of representatives just like Bolsheviks closed the Constituent Assembly, forcibly collectivized all agriculture and industry, and fulfilled Sarah Palin's wish of having America help our "North Korean allies." He's done none of these things. Ergo, he's NOT a Communist
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@gracie1232
People call Obama a Communist for the same reason they called Bush a Nazi. To get people's attention by making a ridiculous exageration bordering on libel. If Obama were a Communist the Tea Party would've been crushed with tanks. and the Republic and Green parties, and the socialist party, and the libertarian party would all be illegal.
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@gracie1232
Why do Communist sympathizers always feel the need to insult their opponents, by calling anyone who disagrees with them "dim" or an idiot? As if everyone whose opinion differs theirs is automatically inferior? and i don't care what Marx *said*. I care what his followers (lenin, kim il sung, mao...) *did*.
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman this is an absurd comment...Lenin and Mao communists? Marxists my ass...a pig in a stable isn't a horse my friend!
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman Problem is that to judge Communism by looking at Mao etc. is a bit like saying that Christianity is evil because of David Koresh. Marx would turn in his grave at the way his name was used in these regimes.
You are badly mis-informed and your opinions are borderline stereotype.
The good news is that Capitalism will, sooner or later, self destruct. That is self evident.
They say an open mind is the essence of intellect. Would you like me to explain that to you?
gracie1232 8 months ago
@gracie1232
Capitalism will self-destruct? Marx predicted that in the mid 1800s, and his followers have been predicting it ever since, but lets look at the facts. Capitalism has survived innumerable recessions, depresions and full-fledged collapses, and has always rebounded and corrected its past errors,. in every country where Communism has been imposed, dire poverty and mass starvation has been the result. It is communism, not capitalism, that has self-destructed
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@gracie1232
a great quote. unfortunately in the context of this debate its judgemental in the extreme. my opposition to communism is not a sign of "close-mindedness", anymore than my hostility to fascism is a sign of intolerance. You say Marx would "turn in his grave" if he knew what his followers are doing.. Marx, the man who called for a "revolutionary holocaust" and a "dictatorship of the proletariat", who said "revolutionary terrorism will shorten the birth pangs of the new society"?
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@gracie1232
Here's the difference. Neither the Catholic church, nor any of the Protestant churches, nor the Orthodox church, ever defended Koresh's actions, in fact they loudly condemned them. Christian theologians, bishops, etc. didn't rush to the defense of Koresh or proclaim him a hero. But Communist parties around the world regard Lenin, Che Guevara and Mao as revolutionary heroes, and regard Leninism, Maosim, Juche etc. not as the murderous systems they are, but as great ideals
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman I think you need to read more...You would need to understand what Cuba was like under the corrupt, mafia supported leadership of Batista to understand why Che is regarded as a hero and Liberator. So too, you would need to understand how appalling was the ramifications of the first world war and Tsarism in Russia to understand why Lenin is regarded as a liberator...Mao is simply an enigma...a living perversion and more a nationalist than a committed Marxist.
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
When the Tsar was in power an average 17 people were executed a year. When Lenin came to power tens of thousands were executed every month. Yes, the tsar was an autocrat. but by the time of the 1917 october revolution his monarchy had been replaced with a democratic legislature, first the Duma and then the constituent assembly. learn about kerensky then get back to me
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman Kerensky was socialist lawyer ...you are advocating for a Marxist lawyer??..What would you like to nnow about Mr Kerensky..clearly you don't know much at all....The Duma was not a truly democratic institution at all..indeed there was a very limited franchise and at no time during Kerensky's reign did a full and unfettered election take place...Kerensky was the one who first created the Soviet...Lenin and Trotsky would keep the Soviet idea and transform it ....
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
Yes. I am advocating a "marxist lawyer" who fled Russia the second the Bolsheviks took over. I also admire the Social Revolutionaries, Mensheviks and Bundists, despite being socialists they had the courage and decency to oppose the Bolsheviks! and for that, they have my deep respect.
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman The Bolsheviks and Mensheviks wanted to negotiate an outcome with the social conservatives...Kerensky completely ignored the need to end the war despite hundreds of thousands of desertions and millions of deaths and children and women filling the ranks of the fallen..is this the humanity of Kerensky that you so admire???
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
Of course Tsarist russia had problems, but this justifies Lenin killing over five million people?? I think not. The Weimar republic was corrupt and ineffective too, and was largely controlled by the aristocracy...does that help you "understand" why Hitler was "regarded as a hero" by so many Germans? Batista was scum, but Che killed far more people.
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman of course Tsarist Russia had problems...nobody knows how many people went missing under Tsarist Russia...an illiberal, militaristic, autocratic state in which nobody had the right of political representation...the Tsar led Russia into a war that cost more than 5 million Russian lives..do some reading!
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
People did have the right of political representation. Ever heard of the Duma and the Constituent Assembly? You are correct that for most of its history the Tsarist system was unspeakably brutal. But by 1917 the system was undergoing massive reforms. And Kerensky, despite being a socialist, fled Russia when the Bolsheviks came to power, because he feared for his life under the new regime. what does this say about the supposedly humane Bolsheviks?
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
Kerensky fled because he was secretly negotiating with the Germans while prosecuting the war, he openly lied to the DUMA three times...see Richard Pipes "Russia under the old regime"...oxford uni press. The Soviet in Petrograd were happy to see the back of Kerensky and switched their support to the Bolsheviks..useful idiots I'd say!!!..so too the Military joined the Red Guard on masse...the people spoke..Kerensky just didn't hear them!..again see Richard Pipes!
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
Yes, the Tsar led Russia into ww1, which cost more than 5 million Russian lives. and Lenin led Russia into Communism, which cost Russia 60 MILLION lives. Of course, the Tsarist system needed a massive overhaul, much like the British monarchy. But the Communists' pretending to be against monarchy is laughable, why don't you condemn the hereditary succession happening *today*...in COMMUNIST north Korea
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman The DUMA was a joke..it operated like the British Parliament under Charles II....the Tsar was in no way responsible to the Duma nor compelled to respond to its request...Tsarist Russia was governed by decree..do you understand this? In fact the Russian Tsars called the DUMA together for advice just 3 times in 150 years....as a representative body it was a joke!
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
What about the Constituent Assembly which the Bolsheviks overthrew, after only winning 1/3 of the votes? was that a "joke" too?
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman...so..the Nazis took power in German with the same % of res...I think you'll find that the Bolsheviks were the largest single bloc of votes in the assembly. Lenin used his numbers to make the assembly redundant....and it was!
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
Respond to this video... again..I challenge you to source your claims..60 million deaths under Communism?.. hang on i am holding my side laughing....ok..once your source is sited you obviously need to be told yet again...there has NEVER been a Marxist regime in existence...and any regime under any guise that doesn't allow for political representation for its citizenry is moribund. North Korea is a Stalinist style dictatorship and a really bad example to use.
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
you realize you're defending a man (Lenin) who killed MILLIONS of civilians, right? and you expect me to believe communism is about justice?
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman I never defended Lenin at all...but blaming Communism for the rise of Lenin is like Christianity for the rise of David Koresh...
You're a self confessed hate r of Communism but by your own words..you don't even understand what Communism is...not having a good day are you!
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@cheechnchongsbong
so are you against Leninism?
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman I am against any perversion of ideology that results in the deaths of innocent people...and I am careful enough not to attribute a political ideology to people who depart from the tenets of the ideology they purport to represent. Lenin fits into this category...Interestingly you failed to mention the brutal civil war that was fought post 1917 Russia....conveniently you have failed to mention this to boost the claim to innocent deaths under the Bolsheviks..it's disingenuous.
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@gracie1232
Do Christians around the world put Koresh's face on their t-shirt and wear it with pride to show their support for the revolution? No, I don't think so. But Communists put Che and Mao's pictures on t-shirts as if they were movie stars, and not mass murderers. Why?
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman Those wishing to attack Christianity would be stupid to make a comparison between Christ and Koresh, very different men with very different ideas but both linked through christian ideals...and yet you apply this very approach with Marxism ...why?
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
@gracie1232 most of these people wouldn't know a Communist if they fell over one - they work from the point that they are politically enlightened and Communists are deluded. No chance of a compelling and engaging debate with people who come to the table of discussion with these prejudices intact.
cheechnchongsbong 8 months ago
grow some balls and start your own damn revolution if you dont like it... u know u guys want to
rockero909 9 months ago
and??? wow.. is that suppose to scare us?? man.. you whatever you guys are are just paranoid scared patriotic americans
rockero909 9 months ago
Propaganda
bezplavok 9 months ago
@NativeSupport LOL, you whine like a little child. I’ve got a pretty good indication of what you’ve donated, given the level of sophistication you’ve shown to this point - Zero. You do give out plenty of excuses though. Throwing another temper tantrum won’t help your cause any either, but if it makes you feel better princess, you go ahead and get it out of your system.
primpal08 9 months ago
@NativeSupport Should you really be sending me your comments when you have that law suit against me pending? LOL. Seriously, you can get as mad at me as you want and it really wont change anything for you. You talk big and act small. Instead of giving money to your cause, you give excuses. So go ahead and have your temper tantrums if you think it will help.
primpal08 9 months ago
long live the Socialist movement! onward to progress!
ComradeJordan 9 months ago
@NativeSupport LOL, what are you, 12 years old? Actively into activism? What does that even mean? Oh no, you’re going to sue me, how frightening. Go for it retard. How can I discredit something that doesn’t exist? Sitting around with your little socialist friends, discussing how your going to change things when you grow up, doesn’t make you an activist, idiot. Stop talking big and go do something for real, you fraud.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport Stop trying to justify your cowardice. You stated that you don’t care about the Dutch people. You consider yourself an activist. Stop whining and go do something constructive. You can find a way to afford to do it if it’s what you want to do, but you don’t. That, more than anything else, makes you a fraud.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport Oh, I get it. You’re a typical socialist. Big talk, no action. Throw other peoples money at problems and never lift a finger to do anything yourself. You have no real convictions. There are many charitable institutions that work with the very people you pretend to care about so much about. You could get there through them, but it’s more comfortable for you to pretend to care over the internet than to do anything that would require real sacrifice on your part.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport My business is none of your business. Not everyone works a 9 to noon government job. Ah, battle cry of the socialist. “Give me everything and I’ll think about backing up my words with actions.” You don’t need a private jet, Bono. Just pick one people and go to them.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport You have an exaggerated opinion of yourself, that’s obvious. Your out to solve the world’s problems by throwing other people’s money at them, in typical socialist fashion. You don’t care about the Dutch? Why don’t you go live among the people you do care about then, hypocrite? Why don’t you help them directly instead of whining about their plight on the internet?
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport I don’t have a problem with the Dutch people. Just with whining, bleeding heart, hypocrite, socialists - wherever they’re from.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport Hey, I’m not the one who’s sensitive about name calling, jackass. You can call me whatever you want. You have no effect on me in this regard mainly because, at this point, I have no respect for you. You are a socialist hypocrite, nothing more.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport Funny how someone who’s so sensitive about being called names throws them around a lot. More socialist hypocrisy.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport Your profile says nothing about Netherlands, check it out sometime. The real moron, that would be the socialist hypocrite who takes up the cause of a people they know nothing about and have no vested interest in, while ignoring the peoples put under the thumb of their own peoples colonial past. Back to your mantra, idiot.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport Actually the Dutch had colonies all over the world. You saying there was no oppression of those indigenous peoples? You really are a moron.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport Do they have a lot of First Nations Peoples in The Netherlands? Or are you pretending to be from somewhere else today. I couldn’t help but notice your profile still doesn’t include your country.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport The fact that you’re looking at taking on the cause of first nations people instead of looking at the peoples who were under the thumb of your own nation makes you a hypocrite. Just because I embarrassed you into revealing your profile doesn’t make you a hero. Why is a channel profile even relevant? Your’s is limited (friends locked). BTW, for a freak, you sure do call a lot of other people “freak“.
primpal08 10 months ago
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@NativeSupport No, you are a fraud. You keep your profile as vague as possible in order to be a fraud. You pretend to be a native supporter because you feel it is safe to do so and you can take the “high moral ground”. You avoid posting your nationality in order to avoid your own peoples’ colonial past. Now you can go back to chanting your mantra, phoney. Feel better now?
primpal08 10 months ago
No, you are a fraud. You keep your profile as vague as possible in order to be a fraud. You pretend to be a native supporter because you feel it is safe to do so and you can take the “high moral ground”. You avoid posting your nationality in order to avoid your own peoples’ colonial past. Now you can go back to chanting your mantra, phoney.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport “Strawman,” is this your new buzzword? Are you going to add this to your mantra?
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport So far you haven’t been very good at the truth. At least I’m not ashamed to post my country of origin. Like most socialists, communists, and anarchists you can’t seem to decide what you are. Today you pretend to be Dutch or Native American activist. Tomorrow you’ll be calling yourself an environmentalist. If that goes out of fashion you’ll change to homeless crusader or community organizer. Anything to push your political agenda.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport I’m not Russian, moron. You started this with that idiotic comment you sent, and then failed to back up. You then drifted from subject to subject in a pathetic attempt to score some sort of victory in your own mind. If you want to stop, then stop. Or do you need some multi-million dollar, taxpayer paid, government social welfare program set up to do that for you?
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport Maybe you should go fornicate yourself with a tire iron. I don’t take orders from you, moron. If you don’t like that, tough.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport As I stated, you don’t have any views. You just recycle the views of those around you. Now why don’t you go chant, “Greenspan, credit card Capitalist, and neo-liberalism” until your blue in the face. If you want to see a speculator who follows the masses and doesn’t know shit, just read your own comments sometimes.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport I’m not an American, why don’t YOU read profiles? As far as your explaining your views on socialism, forget it. I’ve come to realize the reason you drift from subject to subject is that you don’t really have any arguments of your own. You’re just parroting the crap you’ve heard from others around you and really haven’t ever questioned anything yourself. That’s been obvious since your first statement.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport Why would someone from the Netherlands be passing themselves off as a first nations native? Why has your defence of Communism and Socialism now degenerated into mindless America bashing? Do you have any real information to express or is your mind too full of idiotic slogans and propaganda?
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport You’ve already demonstrated your lack of political knowledge. Please explain to me exactly what you believe Socialism to be. Have you already forgotten about Obama’s massive stimulus package? The trouble in Europe was brewing for a long time thanks to years of tax and spend socialist policies. Your grasp of economics is as pathetic as your grasp of politics. BTW it’s Europe that gets it’s oil from Libya. Protest that.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport And since you’re talking about national debt, how is Obama’s multi-trillion dollar socialist spending spree working for you? He makes every President before him look like an amateur when it comes to running up debt.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport Socialism’s working really great in Europe now isn’t it? We’ve seen the collapse of the Irish and Greek economies and protests in France and England over government cutbacks. There is no magic pot of money for the government to draw from, it’s eventually the taxpayer that carries the burden.
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport It’s funny how every time we go through a down market we get people pronouncing the end of Capitalism, and every time the markets recover, they disappear. Meanwhile, the USSR which was richly abundant in natural resources, goes bankrupt and these same people conveniently don’t seem to notice. Does it require selective ignorance to be a Communist, or is a strong entitlement mentality enough?
primpal08 10 months ago
@NativeSupport So you would replace a Capitalist economy with upward and downward movements that, over time, moves in an upward direction - with one like Communism, that steadily declines over time and eventually and inevitably bankrupts the state? Why is it that people who have no clue how the economy works always want to control it? Why is it that Nazi’s and Communists can only seize power when a nation is under severe distress?
primpal08 10 months ago
I pray we can make it 1 1/2 more years. Unforgivable shame on those who refused to see all of the evidence that was plainly in front of them, and cast their vote to prove they were not 'racist'.
trishgrv 10 months ago
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lolosixfoe 10 months ago
i would like to see the U.S. become communist, there could still be freedom, people could still pick there jobs, hell there can still be elections, except the gov. controls the economy and shit i think the nation having money and using it to better the nation is better that a company having money with one man having most of it and buying a car, previous communist nations where and are dictatorships and mostly corrupt, america should prove to the world that communism can work
bigmathafaka 10 months ago
@bigmathafaka Communists can pick their jobs. What planet are you living on? Communism is a failed industrial age system that never worked and resulted in the murder of over 100 million people. Even the scumbag Nazi’s couldn’t compare to that. Are you really convinced that we need to keep giving them another chance? You couldn’t really be that stupid could you? Please tell me you’re joking.
primpal08 10 months ago
@primpal08 in an ideal communist nation or the way i should be communism can work, but several communist nations gave it up and became dictatorships like China or the USSR, communism hasn't worked in the past cause the nations it was used in had corrupt governments or were simply too poor
bigmathafaka 10 months ago
@bigmathafaka Gee, imagine that. A system where the government controls everything, including the media, and it becomes corrupt. How could it not become corrupt?
primpal08 10 months ago
@primpal08 actually an nation can be communist and not have control of the media
bigmathafaka 10 months ago
@bigmathafaka No, in this case it’s not truly a communist state. China for instance is currently communist in name only. When they allow free market trading, business ownership, and property rights, they are no longer communist. China would best be described as a left wing dictatorship at this point. They saw the inevitable collapse coming from maintaining the communist system and started making changes. Go to North Korea and make pro-Capitalist statements sometime.
primpal08 10 months ago
OK this guy is a fat troll and don't call him a capitalist pig because capitalism works. communism unfortunately doesn't because of greed in human nature and it's unfortunate and sad. Still though, a doctor getting paid as much as a janitor is pretty sketchy though don't you think? Marx had a great vision but it only works in theory. Notice how almost all communist countries go from a democracy/ republic to a dictatorship.
aginger491 10 months ago
FUCK YOU CAPITALIST PIG!
Vim281 10 months ago
this is gay and wrong on so many levels
i finally understand what green day meant when they did their song American Idiot
BOLSHEVIXTREME 10 months ago
ooooo......scary.
Fighting31406 11 months ago
YOU BLOODY AMERICAN CAPITALISTS,SHUT UP RUSSIA IS THE GREATEST!
TheMarko09az 11 months ago
Just another extremist with a twisted world view. Probably has a bomb shelter and is still waiting for Ivan.
jmck53 11 months ago
Obama is TOATINLIT60AM = The Only American That Is Not Living In The 60s AnyMore
olvimann 11 months ago
There is so much bias about communism and barack obama with these sensational things... and the major population just follow some minor population that do some smoke without fire! What!? If I read a book about communism makes me a communist? Wake up! Why are people so much blind about conspiracy?
YES THERE IS CONSPIRACY IN THE WORLD BUT LOOK FOR THE FACTS! DONT EAT EVERYTHING THEY KNOW YOU WILL EAT!
SeatNoPoste 11 months ago
this is just a joke. lol
clemons3232 11 months ago
It's sad that people still think communism is an evil thing.
Rygads 11 months ago
Obama IS a Communist...it's as simple as that.
Erpehie 11 months ago
@Erpehie
obama needs to be impeached.
MrTabby5000 11 months ago
@Erpehie, too bad you don't know what communism is or what effects on society.
USSOCOMpower 10 months ago
socialism is the ultimate form of evil
lvll138inrs 11 months ago
@lvll138inrs you are a sheep, and a slave. how can a monetary system be good or evil?
FredRBP 11 months ago
@lvll138inrs If that's the case, Capitalism is the international Black Plague.
Zorg1011 11 months ago
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We cannot expect the Americans to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of Socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism.
- Nikita Khrushchev, 1959
importfilta 1 year ago 2
Is he realy communist ?
richardsvinal 1 year ago
@richardsvinal No, but a bunch of inbred right-wing idiots label him as one in order to make him seem more radical than he is. Obama is a liberal politician which does not mean he is a Socialist or a Communist (although personally I'd prefer it if he was a Socialist).
mixmac38 1 year ago
KKK and the Neo Nazis then to support the Republican Party does that make McCain a KKK member
LogicalThinker667 1 year ago
@LogicalThinker667 Be reasonable what you just said makes you no better than this idiot. I wish youtube had a blamming system like newgrounds
aginger491 10 months ago
Zeitgeist 2011!!!
evilnomad111 1 year ago
i just love the horror movie music XD like the how it was called....Anarchy hall!! dun! dun! dun! my God, Obama's behind you with a hammer and sickle! but dont turn round or he might provide free healthcare!! XD sorry, im showing no reason, but this is youtube!! yay!!
lankyman0990 1 year ago
What I don't get is why Americans hear "Communism" or anything remotely 'left-wing', and are immediately terrified. A bit of socialism is good for a country (free healthcare *cough cough*). Just because someone read Marx, doesn't make them an evil Commie - it makes them someone who has expanded their mind beyond Capitalism and looked at alternatives. It doesn't mean he's going to turn America into Cambodia, or become like Stalin, for fuck sakes...
TalonWolf 1 year ago
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@TalonWolf Hello,In newspaper with front page Obama victory, Illinois Lottery's draw was 666 on Page 2, Bible's Mark of the Beast, announcing Antichrist.
Also, it can be seen Obama has many, severe head-scars. Bible states "Antichrist suffers mortal head-wound". Calculating Antichrist's 42 months rule, starting from Obama's July/ Aug/Sept 2007 rise in the run for POTUS, 42 months is just now Jan/Feb
Circulate to everyone everywhere it's good news!
ObamasTheBeast 11 months ago
Watch the documentary about the weather underground on google videos. If you don't support them, you're anti-American. Period.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
what a twist !
ricciboy43 1 year ago
lol, do some research, stalinism and maoism is not the same as marxism or socialism.but this was really funny. if you knew what communism is, and not what you learn that it is,you would have another wiev. did you for example know that the usa has been selfish murders even before it was a country? huntings of native americans, anti-socialistic campains in latin america and asia? or the oil adventure in iraq? real communism is freedom of speach, usa is freedom of speach if you agree with usa.
Chillpadden 1 year ago