I'm a beginner audiophile, and I would like to know why amplifiers for sound systems cost a lot more then guitar amplifiers, especially the tube amplifiers.
I don't give a "Flying Fart" what anyone says!!! It sounds quite nice, and that comes from someone who really doesn't care for the laid back sound OfMac, but this system surprisingly sounds quite good !!!
I'm a bit afraid to ask, but why is there a need of a pre-amp? I'm aware of its function in a guitar amp - it "forms" the tune, juicy or flat, lively or dead. But here, the tune is ready on the cd, ready to be pumped up, in the amps. Am I wrong? :)
Its no surprise in my mind that McIntosh sells so well, just look at those big baby blue meters, that black glass and the chromed dials! But they really do sound like JUNK...afterall. NOBODY uses output transformers after all- I wouldn't want an MC-1201 connected to my ESL-63s, the amp would likely go into shutdown! The American & British designers never mastered the ART in making good sounding amplifiers. And its quite hard to find a GOOD HAND to MAKE them on those communist chink pay rates.
@JoeRosenSmokin300B fuck your taste get the hell out of hear with your racist ass comments you dont like mcintosh fine listen to your cheap ass cerwin vegas you bought at best buy that allegedly dont sound boomy.lmao
@tingokuman That JoeRosen is a fuckin idiot. Unfortunately youtube is allowing those shit people growing here. You can upload the best setup there will be always a bastard bashing this or that brand etc... Anyway I can´t stand that anymore and shall escape from this fuckin place very soon.
I used to own some McInchink but there wasn't enough "tone" for my listening tastes. I prefer tubes as they are more accurate to the source-THE MUSIC. For me its the voluptuous midrange of the ESL-63s and large Cerwin Vegas. Some folks don't have the ear for it- its sad but they're just SOL! Sitting listening to their pricey Wilson Audio Watt/Puppys and 801Ds, oh LORD please end the torture NOW...it become unbearable! Those metal tweeters can be so harsh and that bass of so boomy!
Well I see the audiofools have made their way to YOUTUBE to flog their McIntrash again! Its not that is isn't well built (its quite decent though HORRENDOUSLY overpriced), its just that is sounds like GARBAGE. The absolute SNOB APPEAL surrounding the McIntrash gives off an odor that gets poor beggers like myself. my advice, throw this chinese JUNK in the garbage and get yourself a beautiful Dynaco ST70 and a pair of Cerwin Vega. SHOCKING low level detail- you'll be in audio heaven!
Not that I want to sound bandy, but you could run a pair of Apogees with the legendary Marants 88 tube amp (these go REALLY cheap!)and at least you can then run your 2 Ohms speakers STEADY without having to deal with that "crunk!" or "plowp! when the McIntrashpiles protection circuit cuts in or BLOWS UP! I had the Antique Sound Labs WAV-8 monoblocs (later traded) that also sounded GLORIOUS with only about 5W (normally I dont like that CHINK-FI but this one was well designed and I recommend!)
Not that I want to sound bandy, but you could run a pair of Apogees with the legendary Marants 88 tube amp (these go REALLY cheap!)and at least you can then run your 2 Ohms speakers STEADY without having to deal with that "crunk!" or "plowp! when the McIntrashpiles protection circuit cuts in or BLOWS UP! I had the Antique Sound Labs WAV-8 monoblocs (later traded) that also sounded GLORIOUS with only about 5W (normally I dont like that CHINK-FI but this one was well designed and I recommend!)
Well I see the audiofools have made their way to YOUTUBE to flog their McIntrash again! Its not that is isn't well built (its quite decent though HORRENDOUSLY overpriced), its just that is sounds like GARBAGE. The absolute SNOB APPEAL surrounding the McIntrash gives off an odor that gets poor beggers like myself. my advice, throw this chinese JUNK in the garbage and get yourself a beautiful Dynaco ST70 and a pair of Cerwin Vega. SHOCKING low level detail- you'll be in audio heaven!
My ears just had sex listening to how good this sounds. Ugh, I need baby wipes to clean the "residue" out! Incredible sound for not even being physically next to the stereo!
I don't know...this sounds suspiciously like Dell computer speakers playing a fairly low-to-medium fidelity stream from youtube of something recorded through a camcorder mic. But I could be wrong about this.
Mac was the top brand until marantz came along and showed them up. It might be different today, but in the 50's & 60's Marantz was far superior to Mcintosh.
Yeah, you cant beat the golden era gear, most of todays amps just sound cold. It's probably just that times have changed so much. I prefer the old school. I saw a crown amp of pauls in a Wings vid years ago :)
@Ampaccessories Me too. I think Manley is one of the today branches that follows old school philosophy. I've posted a 'EL34 Manley Snapper Tube Amp' video and a 'voice' variation video if you're interested. You can listen the air passing through the trumpet on the first one. Your comments will be very appreciated.
@tallorder9 I didn't know Paul McCartney was an audiophile. I am sorry if I didn't understand you. I've never listened a Crown 150. Is it a hi-fi gear? By the way, do you know what hi-fi gear the ex-Beatles used to have in home? Tubes, SS?
How can anyone get an idea of what this system sounds like? Single camcorder mic cutting out both top and bottom end. and being only one mic gives absolutely no idea of sound staging. all you are hearing is a mono signal. Not only that the audio is compressed for youtube. Not to mention what most listeners will be hearing it through. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. I have no doubt it is an awesome system tho. I'm guessing that is not your usual speaker positioning either.
@starsky10auctions I just upgraded SIGNIFICANTLY!. The new PC speakers cost over 50 dollars! Your system sounds a bit better too, IMO. Let us both strive to achieve perfection!
My previous post is a reply to markyb53 and it was posted here. I don't know what happened. By the way, this is a great system, of course. I am not a SS guy but I have to admit.
@kynigh I agree with you. "One of the..." but not the only one or the last word. Many people used to be mesmerized by magic world "McIntosh" or the blue eyes vision. I've been listening to old audiophiles with no money restrictions describing Mac sound as "cold" sometimes. It's a matter of taste of course.
Children of Sanchez (Overture) iTunes with Don Potter was one of the best songs that could ever to be played on that amp and speakers... the first 3 min will really show off the amp and speakers... the original song about 14 min crank that up with 2k watts and the XRT2K speakers NOW YOUR PLAYING MUSIC!
there's no such thing as the best system in the world. be sure there's better stuff, like Avantgarde Trio, Avalon Isis, Gryphon Poseidon, YG acoustics, etc. this also applies to the electronics and the cables.
I really don't think so. This is the best McIntosh video on YT, of course. However, there are better and worse amps outside. I like Macs and owned one set (MC275-C220). But I've changed my mind when found single-ended triodes. Mac only uses KT88. EL34 & EL84 are more musical to me. It's just a matter of taste. Some people like H.Davidson, some people like Kawasaki. Take a look at "EL34 Manley Snapper..." here on YT. It's different and very impressive too. Your comments will be appreciated.
Chuck deserves no less.
slomanification 2 weeks ago
That track is awsome Jazzy. Good to hear Jazzy stuf on fine audio equipment.
tarquesh 3 weeks ago
The McIntosh MC-1201 Amplifier and McIntosh C-2300 Preamplifier PRICE about 150000 euros beleive!
drmawac 2 months ago
KING OF THE HILL
fridgdog 2 months ago
very dynamic sound,that is what I like very much
MrZenderOne 5 months ago
I'll sell my mother for a pair of those B&W's ...lol
demarcos69 7 months ago
I'm a beginner audiophile, and I would like to know why amplifiers for sound systems cost a lot more then guitar amplifiers, especially the tube amplifiers.
nrodri10 8 months ago
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wow that room must so good. thats a 1.2 mack amp with b@w's hooked up. great comanation
MrZachattack99 9 months ago
wow that room must so good. thats a 1.2 mack amp with b@w's hooked up. great comanation.
MrZachattack99 9 months ago
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すごいです。英語わからないから日本語でのコメントでごめんなさい。ほんとうにすごいです。感動しました。
twkawa 9 months ago
すごいです。英語わからないから日本語でのコメントでごめんなさい。ほんとうにすごいです。感動しました。
twkawa 9 months ago
@twkawa what the fuck did that mean
MrZachattack99 8 months ago
that's some expensive stuff
HenkSpankK 10 months ago
nice...from thailand
ballnaja2525 10 months ago
I don't give a "Flying Fart" what anyone says!!! It sounds quite nice, and that comes from someone who really doesn't care for the laid back sound OfMac, but this system surprisingly sounds quite good !!!
Sirflatch 11 months ago
Wow 100 watts continuous into theB&W's,, must be LOUD with those 1000 watt peaks.
meanleanfmachine 11 months ago
@meanleanfmachine 1200 watts
MrZachattack99 8 months ago
is this amp the predecessor of the MC 1.2K? cause, i can't find this one anywhere!
BlueShirt7 1 year ago
@BlueShirt7 what?
MrZachattack99 8 months ago
I'm a bit afraid to ask, but why is there a need of a pre-amp? I'm aware of its function in a guitar amp - it "forms" the tune, juicy or flat, lively or dead. But here, the tune is ready on the cd, ready to be pumped up, in the amps. Am I wrong? :)
BlueShirt7 1 year ago
I love how the camera vibrates at around 0:20. I wish i had enough money to pick up gear like this
mavadd88 1 year ago 2
Another great system. Although a different room and orientation would be frosting on the cake.
ZBeosound6 1 year ago
the best way to sell you stuff, with the magick of Chuck!! Great
sueXass 1 year ago
Its no surprise in my mind that McIntosh sells so well, just look at those big baby blue meters, that black glass and the chromed dials! But they really do sound like JUNK...afterall. NOBODY uses output transformers after all- I wouldn't want an MC-1201 connected to my ESL-63s, the amp would likely go into shutdown! The American & British designers never mastered the ART in making good sounding amplifiers. And its quite hard to find a GOOD HAND to MAKE them on those communist chink pay rates.
JoeRosenSmokin300B 1 year ago
@JoeRosenSmokin300B fuck your taste get the hell out of hear with your racist ass comments you dont like mcintosh fine listen to your cheap ass cerwin vegas you bought at best buy that allegedly dont sound boomy.lmao
tingokuman 1 year ago
@tingokuman That JoeRosen is a fuckin idiot. Unfortunately youtube is allowing those shit people growing here. You can upload the best setup there will be always a bastard bashing this or that brand etc... Anyway I can´t stand that anymore and shall escape from this fuckin place very soon.
audiophilemetallian 2 days ago
@JoeRosenSmokin300B You're speakers must sound like junk.
vwxy20z 3 months ago
I used to own some McInchink but there wasn't enough "tone" for my listening tastes. I prefer tubes as they are more accurate to the source-THE MUSIC. For me its the voluptuous midrange of the ESL-63s and large Cerwin Vegas. Some folks don't have the ear for it- its sad but they're just SOL! Sitting listening to their pricey Wilson Audio Watt/Puppys and 801Ds, oh LORD please end the torture NOW...it become unbearable! Those metal tweeters can be so harsh and that bass of so boomy!
JoeRosenSmokin300B 1 year ago
@JoeRosenSmokin300B wilson watt pupies are fuckin awsome
MrZachattack99 8 months ago
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Well I see the audiofools have made their way to YOUTUBE to flog their McIntrash again! Its not that is isn't well built (its quite decent though HORRENDOUSLY overpriced), its just that is sounds like GARBAGE. The absolute SNOB APPEAL surrounding the McIntrash gives off an odor that gets poor beggers like myself. my advice, throw this chinese JUNK in the garbage and get yourself a beautiful Dynaco ST70 and a pair of Cerwin Vega. SHOCKING low level detail- you'll be in audio heaven!
JoeRosenSmokin300B 1 year ago
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Not that I want to sound bandy, but you could run a pair of Apogees with the legendary Marants 88 tube amp (these go REALLY cheap!)and at least you can then run your 2 Ohms speakers STEADY without having to deal with that "crunk!" or "plowp! when the McIntrashpiles protection circuit cuts in or BLOWS UP! I had the Antique Sound Labs WAV-8 monoblocs (later traded) that also sounded GLORIOUS with only about 5W (normally I dont like that CHINK-FI but this one was well designed and I recommend!)
JoeRosenSmokin300B 1 year ago
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Not that I want to sound bandy, but you could run a pair of Apogees with the legendary Marants 88 tube amp (these go REALLY cheap!)and at least you can then run your 2 Ohms speakers STEADY without having to deal with that "crunk!" or "plowp! when the McIntrashpiles protection circuit cuts in or BLOWS UP! I had the Antique Sound Labs WAV-8 monoblocs (later traded) that also sounded GLORIOUS with only about 5W (normally I dont like that CHINK-FI but this one was well designed and I recommend!)
JoeRosenSmokin300B 1 year ago
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Well I see the audiofools have made their way to YOUTUBE to flog their McIntrash again! Its not that is isn't well built (its quite decent though HORRENDOUSLY overpriced), its just that is sounds like GARBAGE. The absolute SNOB APPEAL surrounding the McIntrash gives off an odor that gets poor beggers like myself. my advice, throw this chinese JUNK in the garbage and get yourself a beautiful Dynaco ST70 and a pair of Cerwin Vega. SHOCKING low level detail- you'll be in audio heaven!
JoeRosenSmokin300B 1 year ago
My ears just had sex listening to how good this sounds. Ugh, I need baby wipes to clean the "residue" out! Incredible sound for not even being physically next to the stereo!
Vomitore 1 year ago
Made in China ?
PupuTheClown 1 year ago
It's alright, but I think Roksan is better. Sorry.
155MikeC 1 year ago
im a mcintosh buff, trying to wrangle a pair of xrt29 and a ma-7000 - god willing i can pry these away from some unwilling souls....
Rocket625
rocket625 1 year ago
Tube amp supporters need to hear this.
plynix 1 year ago
wow, that looks like a great system
killerkowalczyk 1 year ago
nice done
Shurbovi 1 year ago
I don't know...this sounds suspiciously like Dell computer speakers playing a fairly low-to-medium fidelity stream from youtube of something recorded through a camcorder mic. But I could be wrong about this.
Soamsey 1 year ago 2
Im sure it sounds great but the speakers are too close together and too close to the side walls, but B&W 801 and Mac mono blocs are awesome!
poloman58 1 year ago 3
such a nice system
skfdz 1 year ago
Mac was the top brand until marantz came along and showed them up. It might be different today, but in the 50's & 60's Marantz was far superior to Mcintosh.
Ampaccessories 1 year ago
I had a marantz 3800 preamp which I love
I drove it with a Crown 150, I fond out that Paul Mcartney used Crown. A great set up for me.
tallorder9 1 year ago
Yeah, you cant beat the golden era gear, most of todays amps just sound cold. It's probably just that times have changed so much. I prefer the old school. I saw a crown amp of pauls in a Wings vid years ago :)
Ampaccessories 1 year ago
@Ampaccessories Me too. I think Manley is one of the today branches that follows old school philosophy. I've posted a 'EL34 Manley Snapper Tube Amp' video and a 'voice' variation video if you're interested. You can listen the air passing through the trumpet on the first one. Your comments will be very appreciated.
TullioWalker 1 year ago
@tallorder9 I didn't know Paul McCartney was an audiophile. I am sorry if I didn't understand you. I've never listened a Crown 150. Is it a hi-fi gear? By the way, do you know what hi-fi gear the ex-Beatles used to have in home? Tubes, SS?
TullioWalker 1 year ago
How can anyone get an idea of what this system sounds like? Single camcorder mic cutting out both top and bottom end. and being only one mic gives absolutely no idea of sound staging. all you are hearing is a mono signal. Not only that the audio is compressed for youtube. Not to mention what most listeners will be hearing it through. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. I have no doubt it is an awesome system tho. I'm guessing that is not your usual speaker positioning either.
DROWNED75 1 year ago
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sounds a bit flat and dull with poor imaging. even my 30 dollar pc speakers sound better.
khunopie 2 years ago
It may be time for your "30 dollar pc speakers" to be replaced, seeing as that is how you are hearing this in the first place!
starsky10auctions 2 years ago 16
@starsky10auctions
LOL I bet you just blew his mind
willzyx1980 1 year ago
@starsky10auctions I just upgraded SIGNIFICANTLY!. The new PC speakers cost over 50 dollars! Your system sounds a bit better too, IMO. Let us both strive to achieve perfection!
khunopie 1 year ago
@starsky10auctions B&W's?
you clearly don't know.
TheSantacruzmtb 1 year ago
@khunopie
Is this guy for real?!?!
AudiophileTubes 2 years ago
I think i need an attitude adjustment. time to think about moving out of my mom's house. LOL.
khunopie 2 years ago
@khunopie Better get your ears checked then.
weinerschnitzelboy 1 year ago
@khunopie How the fuck do you want them to sound good if they fuking registred on a camera... stupid
tazhusaberg 1 year ago
My previous post is a reply to markyb53 and it was posted here. I don't know what happened. By the way, this is a great system, of course. I am not a SS guy but I have to admit.
TullioWalker 2 years ago
Bowers & Wilkins... ahhhhhhhhhh !!!! absolute bliss
r4m69 2 years ago 8
One of the best brands of the world???
kynigh 2 years ago
@kynigh I agree with you. "One of the..." but not the only one or the last word. Many people used to be mesmerized by magic world "McIntosh" or the blue eyes vision. I've been listening to old audiophiles with no money restrictions describing Mac sound as "cold" sometimes. It's a matter of taste of course.
TullioWalker 1 year ago
I just came in my pants!
AudiophileTubes 2 years ago 4
Awesome
gregorymill1 2 years ago
Wow ... great sound ... even on Youtube!
timwarneka 2 years ago 24
Children of Sanchez (Overture) iTunes with Don Potter was one of the best songs that could ever to be played on that amp and speakers... the first 3 min will really show off the amp and speakers... the original song about 14 min crank that up with 2k watts and the XRT2K speakers NOW YOUR PLAYING MUSIC!
digeratimaster 2 years ago
you master mind you
ladyhanis 2 years ago
Did you sell your system after?
xsamitt 2 years ago
...i don't think it gets better than this....
markyb53 2 years ago 3
there's no such thing as the best system in the world. be sure there's better stuff, like Avantgarde Trio, Avalon Isis, Gryphon Poseidon, YG acoustics, etc. this also applies to the electronics and the cables.
h4x0y 2 years ago
obviously a Mc hater... ;)
markyb53 2 years ago
I really don't think so. This is the best McIntosh video on YT, of course. However, there are better and worse amps outside. I like Macs and owned one set (MC275-C220). But I've changed my mind when found single-ended triodes. Mac only uses KT88. EL34 & EL84 are more musical to me. It's just a matter of taste. Some people like H.Davidson, some people like Kawasaki. Take a look at "EL34 Manley Snapper..." here on YT. It's different and very impressive too. Your comments will be appreciated.
TullioWalker 2 years ago
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klipsch540 2 years ago
Those B&W woofs move so much air the camera was shaking!
necropederast 2 years ago
how much did you get for them?
23GrandMasterK 2 years ago
god i wish i had one of these amps
pastryhat 2 years ago
Super MC1201.
aristocats64 2 years ago
AWESOME!!! Its not the diamond series is it?
Etlos1 2 years ago
i think it is the 801D!!! =)
megadethboy123 2 years ago
OMG!! Any Audiophile would sell his soul to the devil to get his hands on these amps. Why are you selling them?
tamiasthechipmunk 3 years ago 4
I still have my father's MA6100 that's close to 35 years old....My system is all Adcom now w/ B&W 703s....801s are too pricey for me....
Airbus9e 3 years ago
Bum there goes the dynamite!!!! Thats what i call perfect systems!
retrodisko1 3 years ago
Must be an incredible sound:}
xsamitt 3 years ago
o, yes!!! Suuuper!
elczanka 3 years ago
iv got the same speakers and power amps , just new version 1201 i would never sell it ;)
hubertholownia 3 years ago
Beautiful setup and great song. Are those B&W speakers?
Interloper187 3 years ago 7
You got it - B&W Nautilus 801 Speakers
starsky10auctions 3 years ago 4
why are you selling this stuff? It's so nice...
canderton01 3 years ago 3