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  • I am converting to Wicca and I found this story very interesting... My family doesn't understand why I want to become Wiccan and no longer want to be a catholic. I felt that being a catholic wasn't for me and I was missing something in my life. Then I found this beautiful religion and realized that Wicca is what I have been looking for.

  • I'm sorry but until you fly through the air on a broomstick and turn little kids in to toads you are NOT a witch!!!

  • @myronmlawing Actually the word "witch" is derived from the words wicca and wicce. Which means "wise". The concept of a witch flying through the air or turning people into animals was all made up by ignorant people of the past. And then later enhanced by Hollywood and other such companies. So while Wicca is a relatively new religion. It is completely related to its name and so are the people who go by witch. So maybe in the future you should check your facts before you make comments like this.

  • @ClaudiasCupcakes Thankfully, not all Christians do it...some are open minded, lol, like me :)

    Wicca is a beautiful craft, very amazing in every way. ^__^

  • as a christian i like wiccans

  • I don't know how somebody can find Wicca terrible... It seems so interesting

  • @AlexFoeShizzle it's a little thing called BIGOTRY

  • What's with the Harry Potter music?

  • @GothWicca i have no idea O_O

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  • @carrieicecream

    Are you one of the Christians going on Pagan videos yelling about how evil Paganism is? No? Then that obviously wasn't meant for you. The Christians I was referring too were obviously the ones who go and bash other people's beliefs (As I said) And I am glad I am not a christian, that's just my opinion. That fact that you got so defensive means you ares secure as you would like to have us believe.

  • @ClaudiasCupcakes

    Aren't*

  • so thisis basically not telling us shit about Wicca...just some lady who tells us about her life, oh and she believes in Wicca almost forgot, seeing as they dont talk about witchcraft for shit.

  • lol hARry potter music lmao x,x

  • "there should be poetry in religion, there should be dance in religion, there should be fun in religion." so true... blessed be )0(

  • Many years ago I immersed myself in this belief. The turning point came when a demon presented itself to me, promising me special powers if I would let "it" come into my spirit and take over. - Freaked out, I began to search for God. I had never thought He would be found through Jesus Christ. But, I asked Him to show me if He was real. His presentation was to take me out of my body and into His heart. Jesus is "the Way, the Truth and the Life." I know the "hocus pocus" works, but it has a price.

  • @Gonindunit2 so you're tellin us that the religious right wing believes only 'jesus' a prophet and NOT a god can invite you to the holy land..lmao..oh well, that's why when i am in the company of christians i wear a tee shirt saying ..'No, I didn't fall for christianity'...sorry that you did, and I expect you all think capitolism is the saviour of democracy...dang it...suckers....i am so sorry you have fell for it..till next time...blessed be, and think for yourself

  • Barbara you are very interesting and you and your mother are very beautiful. I agree tha todays chrsitan religion does not celebrate the feminine. They tend to uphold the man and tell the woman to be submissive ect.. Anyway, well one and Ilook forward to part 2.

  • I understand so well , and i know how it is , that search for our spirituality , our necessities to feel , peace , care , love , and wicca religion have all this .

  • I'm learning more and more about WIcca. It seems exciting

  • The Harry Potter music is only offensive if you think of it as being offensive. Forget which movie the music came from, and focus on the mysterious feel it puts in the documentary.

  • I love the Harry Potter music, even if the movies are a bit out there the music is beautiful and sounds wonderful for witches (yes I am a witch too)

  • A remarkably brave lady who has gone through every parents worst nightmare....... blessings to Barbara and her darling daughter, Rhiannon who journeyed on to the blessed isle much too young...

  • Personally I love the HP music.

  • 1:00 minute into the video.. there's a crystal penis on the mantle piece... HA HA

  • Since I have started practicing Wicca, it has been a solitary venture which can be very discouraging at times, but this video has enforced my studies and made me feel much less alone on this path. Thank you for posting this :)

  • 0:59 is that a dildo in the middle?

  • @danceisfun43 I saw the same thing... and asked the same question.

  • @QAF1love yea haha

  • Hello... I made this spell... and some strange things have happened... have anyone tried it? will do? let me know your results... :

    "Place 3 candles surrounded by sugar on a plate at the highest point in your home. Light the candles and ask for 3 wishes to the 3 guardian angels Rafael, Michael and Gabriel.

    Ask a wish 1 wish for business, 1 wish for love and 1 impossible wish.

    publish this spell on the 3rd day after you requested your 3 wishes and see what happens on the 4th day."

  • @danceisfun43 It is a symbol for fertility

  • @argai89 I feel like crafting a phallic symbol and laying somewhere around my computer desk. Then when people come in and ask why I have a dildo on my computer desk I can tell them it's fertility charm. Rubbing the divine phallic will make your seed strong. That is why my seed is so potent.

  • Mmmm....not impressed by the production so far. Harry Potter music...not really appropriate or relevant to anyone properly informed and there is no such thing as a White Witch except in CS Lewis. Magic is not good or bad...people are. If you are doing curses then you are not practicing Wicca.

    I do like the bit about the woman saying she likes going to church. Wicca doesn't tell you not to do that. Christianity has a problem with it. Wicca accepts almost everything which is why it's so nice.

  • This looks really interesting, ive always been curious about wiccans :)

  • @TheRatskinz101 Do you believe in things? In anything? Would you like to have your values and beliefs treated in such a disrespectful manner?

  • @TheRatskinz101 Really? Funny, I don't recall Jesus ever using such foul language. Care to share the verse where he said that?

  • ATHEISM IS THE TRUTH!!! IDIOTS!!!!

  • @Rodan345 And that is your belief. I am entitled to mine as is everyone.

  • Love It, Thanks This Is What Other People Need To Know :)

    Blessed Be! )O(

  • "There is a way that seems right to a man, but it only leads to death". --The Bible

  • @Archangel866 "I'm sorry honey, the abortion failed" --your mom

  • What do you mean there's no poetry in religion? What about the hindu religion. Prayers are basically in song form. Dances are for God. In Christianity there is also dancing for God. You people are sick.

  • @BillieBaby143 We don't mean Poetry as in the usual song rhymes. Poetry is much more than praise, words, and sound rhyme. Poetry is heart-felt emotion. By looking beyond the words, you can discover the true meaning of the poem, and you can dive into the emotion and experience it yourself. THAT is Poetry.

    Now, how the heck are we "sick"? Is it just because we are different? Good giref - freedom of religion means ANY religion, not just your own.

  • @celticbattleaxe So maybe we have a different understanding of what poetry is, but by your definition, I find exactly that in some religions. Again, Hinduism, Christianity. I've been to many temples and churches and seen powerful heart-felt, as you'd say, praises. And I was wrong to use the word "sick," my apologies. But all of this rituals can be meaningless. It's faith that we need. Likewise, we can pray to Jesus all we want, but we won't get anything out of it without faith.

  • @BillieBaby143 Well, I don't find it in christianity at all, but that's me. I've seen 'praises' that were crazy frenzies of rambling and arm waving in the air like some beserk gesticulations. That's what I've seen. I used to be catholic. But hey, not all are bad people. I have quite a few Christian friends, and we get along well.

    Hey, no offense recieved :).

    Yeah, but the point of rituals is to use the power of mind for magic to manifest. FOCUS is key.

  • @BillieBaby143 Correction. I WAS sick, I had a cold for AGES, but then I performed a ritual and it was gone. YAY :D oh..and did you get the sarcasm?

  • @dprubycat Lol Yes, and it did make me laugh. My apologies. I was quite bothered about it at first, but not so much anymore.

  • @BillieBaby143 Hey, it's fine by me :). You are one of the few out there to understand that. You allow the accomodation of new schemas and don't cling to belief perseverance like so many christians do. This is why an open mind is best, and a closed mind is a wonderful thing to lose :).

  • glass dildo at 0:59 lol

  • im not trying to be an ass but, how can you believe in wiccan rituals/spells after trying to perform one and nothing actually happening? is there a single shred of evidence that a wicca ritual has actually worked?

  • @SpartanDrazen You can't expect something 'miraculous to happen' right after. Metaphysics tells us that this dimension is slowed down by time, whereas the Otherworld's vibration is at a much faster rate, so there is no concept of time in the Otherworld. Magic is using energy and 'molding' it into the desired outcome. Because time slows down the rate at which magic can unfold, it is unlikely that the outcome will occur right after the ritual. What does happen is that it...

  • @SpartanDrazen ...starts to unfold. Indeed, Pagan rituals work. If they didn't, there would be very few Pagans in the world. Wicca is the fastest growing religion in the US. You won't find websites with actual evidence of a successful ritual because it breaks one of the 4 Laws, the Power to Remain Silent. In this case, if the practitioner doesn't mention it to anyone, then no one will be able to slow the outcome down. If other people are told about the ritual, they'll think...

  • @celticbattleaxe there are a few concerns i have:

    1- if this otherworld has no concept of time, wouldn't that mean theoretically a ritual can take like 1000 years to take effect?

    2- let's say (hypothetically) i performed curse/ritual directed at someone i didn't like, and then 1 week later their house gets robbed or their pet dies or something, how would you know if that was the spell or just mere coincidence?

  • @SpartanDrazen By no concept of time, there is nothing to slow down the effect of a spell/ritual. Because this dimension is 'ruled' by time, magic takes longer to unfold. Time is what 'grounds' us in this dimension.

    Well, I firstly wouldn't do that (because of the Law of Karma), but putting that aside, you would know if the spell worked. If you are not confident in your abilities when you perform magic, nothing will happen. Magic is 90% mind power and 10 paraphernalia.

  • @SpartanDrazen The thing with coincidences is that there really is no such thing. Things are meant to happen, no matter how harsh or horrible they seem. We are all meant to die in this world, for example.

    When doing a ritual or spell, it is of the utmost importance to visualize the desire coming true. This is what gives it the power to happen. By thinking about something, focusing ONLY on that while blocking everything else out, you can do anything. But because the Otherworld...

  • @SpartanDrazen ...is very sensitive to thoughts, magic unfolds much faster. If you have ever had a near-death-experience, you know that the Otherworld is like this.

    When we say that something is a coincidence, we repress the likely-hood that the outcome is not.

  • @SpartanDrazen ...about it, and even the act of thinking about it will slow down the outcome, because the human conscious mind thinks in accordance with time. But yeah, if Pagan rituals didn't work, Wicca would not exist, Druidry wouldn't exist, Witchcraft wouldn't, Asatru and Seidr wouldn't, etc. And even in the US, there are millions of practitioners of some form of Paganism.

  • @SpartanDrazen If you are a Christian, is there any single shred of proof that the little zombie man you named Jesus actually rise from the dead? Did you see it for your own eyes? No, you read the little book and believed everything that it said, that's what makes people dumbasses.....*No offence :) *sarcasm sarcasm* *

  • 3- how does ones thoughts slow down a spell? that seems a little weird.

    4- i'm not religious and christians are simply the worst. but honestly im trying to see the difference between christianity's prayers and wiccan spells. in both scenarios a person calls upon a greater power to influence/change something in reality, and if any coincidences occur that even slightly relate to a christian's prayers, all you hear is "thank god, my prayers have been answered etc. etc."

  • @SpartanDrazen When casting a spell or doing any form of magic, if you tell other people about it, they will think about it, and most likely try to say in their heads that such a thing is false. So now, their negative thoughts (not 'evil', but negative by degrading). This is why Witches, Wiccans, and in fact all Pagans believe in the Power if Silence. If your thoughts alone focus on a goal with no one else degrading the outcome by not believing such a thing can happen, the magic..

  • @SpartanDrazen ...works. This is why magic is 90% mind power and 10% paraphernalia. When in a coven, or a group of Witches, the magic is stronger because more people are focusing on the outcome, and putting all their energy in to the outcome's unfolding. In this case, others can think about the ritual, but ONLY the ones in the coven - sometimes, you are told to make an oath of secrecy never to reveal the workings in the Circle to become part of the coven for that reason.

  • @SpartanDrazen Yeah, I agree with you on that point. Hey, I don't blame you at all...we ask these questions. The main difference is that Pagans call upon many entities to help them - not just Deities (there can be Christian Witches, too), but Elementals, spirits, ancestors, etc. christians, for the most part, are what I call spiritually obsessed, trying to make spiritual connections with anything they think is spiritual, when in fact, they are far from spiritual self-actualization

  • @SpartanDrazen An example of a spiritually obsessed person is one who would use tarot cards to decide whether or not to go the bathroom. They can be anyone, but many are christians. They would think that an exorcism on a random person is 'the will of god'. Now, Christians (notice I make a differentiation between 'christians' and 'Christians') aren't like this, and Christians are the few people who try to understand Pagans for who we are, and they are nice people. 

  • @dprubycat ps. im not trying to antagonize, just curious really.

  • *Sigh* Can't we all just get along? Religion is an amazing thing- it gives everyone they're own happiness, and while I myself am technically a Mormon ('Course, I disagree with about 90% of the Mormon religion) I find myself feeling much more comfortable and correct with the Wiccans. However- This should not cause any rift among people. We could all be friends ya know :D

  • @showmaker3000 Hey, I'm up for it! :)

    I don't mind Christians at all so long as they don't insult other religions (or my own). Heck, I have Christian friends, Buddhist friends, Hindu friends, Wiccan friends, Shaman friends, Atheist friends, Druid friends, etc. We respect each other - the problem is that many christians don't (notice I make a differentiation between 'Christians' and 'christians'), and they refuse to, especially in the bible belt.

  • It's hard for me to respect a religon that is only 50 years old.

  • @TheQuindecillion Actually its older then Christianity.

  • @tpoltuckerS31 It most certainly is not.

  • lol phoenix im srry i just made an assumption that you were christian because of how annoying you are lol. still yet though i believe your an idiot

  • This is so much more interesting than boring xian stuff.

  • My dad found my alter...he thinks I'm some type of devil worshiper just because of the knife on it...and my mom says it's stupid and told me to get rid of my alter...what should I do!?

    From, a young Wiccan in search of help

  • @KesiIshtar Do not let them. Try to explain to them what Wicca is. Tell them you have the right to worship the faith your heart is called to and they cannot force you to believe something you dont. Stand up to them and demand that they let you worship as you choose. Never back down. Never give in. Never give up hope. The God and Goddess will stand with you if you believe it. Use the power of the Gods to strengthen you and give you the courage to do what is right.

  • phoenix its bad to say...but i am what i am. it cannot and will not be changed...and im enjoying your plight lol. you make no sense but ill give you this your not the average christian..your worse lol im going to enjoy watching you crumble for your deciet

  • @jcwarcraft Wow your ignorance is astounding. Im not Christian you fool. You are far worse than the average Wiccan, who is far better than the conservative christian. What deceit? I have said no lies, told no falsehoods. I have called others on their lies and falsehoods. So your comment makes no sense. You make no sense. Face it, you have no right to judge anyone. Just because you choose to follow a path of death and destruction doesnt mean the rest of us have to hear about it.

  • I can't believe they used the Harry Potter music at the beginning. That is so offensive.

  • @bobdy9988 REALLY !!! they think wicca = witch, witch = harry potter --''''''''' It's too stupid ! why they dont use a song of lisa thiel ? =D

  • @KassB91 Exactly my friend. I have been Wicca for 20 years and I found that stupid beyond belief :o

    Lisa would be amazing ;)

  • @bobdy9988 20 years ?! *o* I admire you ! it been 3 mounths that i am training in the way of the wicca =o=

    i love wiccan ! i cannot say more because i am not very talented in english ^^" (My good friend help me in the traduction) my first language is french.

  • @KassB91 :)

  • @bobdy9988 No. If YOU like HP music you may use it.

  • @bobdy9988  I find you offensive.

  • :59 there's a glass penis!!!!!

  • If you don't like Wicca or aren't interested, then don't click the video and please don't post hateful comments.

  • @FlowerPowerX16 We have the rights to comment on ANY video on Youtube. So yeah, JESUS FTW.

  • @phoenis1985 if this Den kid keeps bothering you. Feel free to contact Tampa FBI, since their is laws against bullying in Florida. I know I live in Florida. This kid has been on other peaceful Wicca channels spreading hate and intolerance

  • if power is evil then "God" is the most evil thing and so you are the real worshipers of evil!

  • she was hot...what happened

  • Lol why is the Harry Potter theme song in here

  • @GagasLitteMonster i love lady gaga <3

  • I like this video, and yes I noticed the crystal. big deal:) most of these comments are so negitive , I mean really! get over it and worry about your own spirituality... silly.

  • Did anyone notice she has a quartz crystal erected penis on her altar at the beginning? Why? lol.... first time I've seen that one.

  • Anyone else notice the Harry Potter Music?lol

  • I really do not understand why people come here an tell that Wicca is bad, if they do not like it why waste the time to come here and make a comment? what is the point? how is it constructive, i do not go around and try to convert people there is no point everyone poin of view and belief is the same valid, why cant we live in piece? if you dont like it dont watch it but coming here and telling us we are wrong is a bit sad. get a life, i like the Wicca way so I m a Wiccan, you dont so you not

  • There is dancing, fun, and poetry in religion. It's just that one person is given the charge to dictate how to direct the religion, is when all of the beauty goes out of it, and it becomes a list of rules and punishments.

  • @JuggieC I totally agree with you. Faith should be a cause for personal celebration towards one's spirituality and the forces that give one comfort and intrigue in life.

  • @NeoDragonCount Exactly. I mean, Christians get all weirded out when I say, sure I love Christ, but I hate church. I'd rather be with the Divine while swimming in a natural lake, or in the depths of a green, green forest. I'm all for religion, but religions like "Churchianity" I could do without.

  • Please understand me you are precious to God and i have better things to do which shows my human side, but Jesus loves you and reaches out to every single person at least once. If we reject him he WILL reject us. He offers you eternal life and a chance to know the creator personally. Forget about other hypocrites who call themselves Christian, i'm just being honest for not all who cry Lord will enter heaven. Witchcraft is not of God, God is Holy and says you want love and peace, come to Him! xXx

  • @A2P86 Wicca is of God. You think we have rejected God when in fact we have embraced God in a way you can never understand. The Holy Trinity will never reject us as long as there are good people on the Earth. You come here and harass good innocent people who do not give a flying fuck about your faith. It would be one thing if we came to you & asked about Jesus. But we havent & we wont. So stop harassing us. You are a hypocrite, We leave you alone but you wont do the same. You do not serve God.

  • @phoenix1985 It is of A god but not the God of the Bible is what i'm saying. How could it be? That would be pure hypocrisy. The problem is that if you have rejected Jesus 'our Way Out of spiritual death -sin-' you have rejected God, he's a love gift to everyone if we choose to accept Him. 'Good people?' who defines that term these days, who can say who is good or not without the Bible? I'm not harassing anyone, i made one comment and people have spoke to me about it and i have talked back...

  • @A2P86 Your God and my God are the same God. There is only 1 God. I dont need the bible to tell me who is a good person & who isnt. If you need a book to tell you the difference between right & wrong that says something about you. A good person is a person who spreads love, compassion, tolerance, goodness, & peace out into the world. You came onto a Wiccan page and started preaching. Do we go on your pages & preach. No. So why not show us the same courtesy & leave us alone.

  • @phoenix1985 Well if our God is the same God then he's hypocritical and i KNOW that my God is not but a God of truth and of His Word, so believe me your god and goddess are not the same as Jehovah God, even history of both our religions will tell you that; opinion doesn't count! But everyone's definition of a good person is different so how can you say that? What you see as a good person i may not so that doesn't make sense either! Tells me A LOT about you! Rest assured i do not plan to spend...

  • @A2P86 You know nothing about my religion so you are again wrong! My religion teaches never to insult another's God. "For all Gods are one God, & all Goddesses are one Goddess. For there is only one Iniitiator & the divine within." My religion hopes for a day when all religions can worship side by side in peace. Your's only hopes to rule the world by any means necessary, including bloodshed. Look at your history: Salem Witch Trials, Spanish Inquisition, Crusades. Filled with innocent blood spilt

  • @phoenix1985 You need to do your history for you keep mentioning these wars but do not understand that it was roman catholic that initiated every one of them- they are NOT CHRISTIANITY! Not at all! They are idolatry and have nothing to do with Jesus or his true teachings! The NEW testament speaks against what happened in every one of those wars so check that out before you start blaming US for something we didn't do! Did u no that catholics used to put christians to death too! Yes we wereburned

  • @A2P86 I've done my history. You ignore it. Roman Catholics are Christians you fool. You discriminate against Gays & Wiccans, 2 things Jesus never mentioned as being evil or sins. So face the facts. You did do it. You can blame it on others all you want. Its all on you. Yes Christians burned other Christians too. Which only goes to prove my point: your entire relgion is founded on death, evil, & bloodshed. I'm not even Christian and I'm a better Christian than most 'Christians" I've met.

  • @phoenix1985 Hahahaha see thats my point Roman catholics are NOT Christians at all. We dont believe in confession, confirmation, that only high priests can be filled with the holy spirit. We dont believe the pope is spokesman for God! They are NOT Christian so u HATE the WRONG people!!! Yes he did and He existed from the beginning when the first laws were written so read again. Well I agree with you on that! You prob are a better christian than those 'so called' christians because they are not

  • @A2P86 Roman Catholics are Christians. Its not just Catholics who do it. Baptists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, I've seen evil & hate come from them all. Anyone who harasses other people & refuses to respect their rights as people to worship as their heart calls them is not a true Christian. I have several Christian friends. They all know my faith & none of them have ever tried to convert me. Because they are good people who respect me & my faith.

  • @phoenix1985 Then a their not Christians and b their not true friends! I could never believe in Christianity's hell and never tell my friend how not to go there! Heartless, truly heartless! Do ur christian friends believe in hell?

  • @A2P86 No that makes them true Christians & true Friends. Im not going to hell. No Wiccan is so you seriously need to let that go. They have a heart, one you sorely lack. Yes they believe in hell, but they know im not going there because I'm a good person. Something, again, you are not.

  • @phoenix1985 So they never read the scripture that says 'all our righteousness is as filthy rags before God', or 'that no man shall be justified in their sight' or there is a generation that is pure in its eyes and yet is not washed of its filthiness'???? If i didnt have a heart i wouldnt waste my time, i really really really wouldnt and u can believe that or not but i planned to sleep when i got home from work but instead i saw ur comments to my posts from ages ago and decided to help u out.

  • @A2P86 They believe that God loves us all. They believe in the love of Jesus. & they also believe in not judging. You dont have a heart & that is why you are here. If you had a heart, you wouldnt have come here in the first place. You have done nothing to help me, only to harass me & others. You help no one but yourself & your own pride. Stop lying to yourself. Face the facts, reexamine your own life, and move on. No Wiccan will fall from the grace they have earned.

  • @phoenix1985 GOODNIGHT PHOENIX! Hey whats the worst that can happen. Your right and we all iive in peace and harmony with God forever or better yet reincarnated, im right and judgement day is coming! x Lets all just hope and pray that your right shall we x NIGHT X

  • @A2P86 Thats the first intelligent thing you've said this entire time.

  • @phoenix1985 I say im a christian, i believe in the bibles hell and your my friend whos a wiccan and i NEVER tell you about it or try and save you. No, no way that is EVIL! Even if you thought sum1 was in danger youd try to help them right?????

  • @A2P86 I would never be friend with an ignorant bigot. I dont need to be saved. I'm already saved. That is good because they know I'm a good person and they know I'm not going to hell. Im not in danger. No Wiccan is. So stop pretending you are doing this for anyone but yourself.

  • @phoenix1985 You know what truly do as u wish but if i ever prove to be right at the end of this life (i mean really at the end of THIS life) i will be the first to tell off your friends that seem more bothered about you liking them than them actually helping you! You need people who are going to challenge you, disagree with you sometimes, tell you sometimes what u dont want to hear because they care about you- yes even in religion and if u dont evem get that from 'friends' i feel sorry for you!

  • @A2P86 Well since I know you are wrong good luck with that. If you truly say I can do as I wish then LEAVE ALREADY! They do help me. They help me by being good people & good friend. You help no one but yourself & your own ego. Ive met people like you before. Its always the same old story that fools no one. My friends do care about me. You dont. I feel sorry for you. That you will live your life in service of a false faith created by man instead of embracing the true path of life.

  • @phoenix1985 ...until eternity in this conversation with you, but you don't need much to see that i care. If a house is on fire and i don't tell but just walk out am i a good person? Surely you can appreciate that. Everyone someday will die but what happens after i believe we have a choice heaven or hell, we cant earn heaven by good works so we need Jesus; now if your right then everythings cool, convo over but if im right id rather go on record to say as a 'good' person i cared nuff to try

  • @A2P86 You dont care. You act like you care. If you really did care you would leave us alone. Since our house isnt on fire you are more like someone who breaks & enters a strangers house to threaten & torture them. There is no hell. Its just a myth created by the church to scare people into converting. I've already been to Heaven & returned. All without Jesus. If you were good enough you would leave us in peace. You arent a good person. You are a harasser on the side of evil. Plain & simple.

  • @phoenix1985 How does that make sense? Example- your walking towards a pit, u cant see it, i shout and say its there and u say im harassing you, what do you want me to do? Care about you by letting you fall anyway when i could have helped stop it? Listen to what your saying! Really... and in what part of our conversation did i threaten to torture you. A fireman breaks in to rescue someone in danger, they don't knock and ask permission. The scary thing is that you DONT know if hell exists!

  • @A2P86 Well guess what. I'm not walking towards a pit. You are just yelling at someone heading east telling them to go west instead. I want you to stop pretending that you care. You dont. If you did you wouldnt be harassing us. I'm not falling so you can stop pretending. Well im not in danger, you are just breaking & entering & threatening to torture me until I convert. I know hell doesnt exist. Hell is a myth created by the church to scare people into converting. All lies.

  • @phoenix1985 How do you know if you cant see the pit? You see thats what i mean your so sure its not there but dont have that 100% certainty. What would convince you that i really do care about you? I know that you could probably reel off 100 names of so called christians in ur life and time that said that and buggered off but you say you have love and then dont even recognise it when it comes but reject it? I have nothing 2 gain out of any of this you realise that right? I dont threaten n havnt

  • @A2P86 Because I've been dead before. Ive been dead & been reincarnated. I know there is no pit. I say that with 10,000% certainty. What would convince me if you cared is if you left here and never came back. I dont reject love. You just arent showing it. Love would mean leaving me & others like me in peace. You have nothing to gain but to prove yourself right for the sake of your own pride.

  • @phoenix1985 Ive been showing you it all conversation and just like when Jesus came to the jews and he gave it and they spat and him and tore at his beard just like what your doing to me. I know i am right, i aint got to prove nothing to noone, but im here because i wanted you to at least know what i believe to be the truth... do u mean to tell me that you have NEVER had a christian come to you with any of this????? Thats REALLY bad!!!

  • @A2P86 If you are right, and youve got nothing to prove, why on Earth do you keep trying to prove it then? If we wanted to know what you believed to be the truth we'd ask you. We didnt, we havent, & we never will. I've had Christians come to me before. And always I tell them the same thing. I know better. I know the truth. I dont need to hear it from you. I've had Christians like you come to me constantly trying to convert me. And they never win. I always win because my faith in God is stronger.

  • @A2P86 I LONG TIME AGO SAID GOODNIGHT, YOU JUST HAVENT TAKEN IT IN YET CAUSE YOUR NOT READING PROPERLY ANYTHING I SAY SO... ONE MORE TIME - GOODNIGHT PHOENIX!

  • @phoenix1985 Your confident of that? That hell does not exist, that if were good enough id leave you in peace cause you need to stop saying us now. Not all others share your opinion and thats all it is. Heaven! If you only knew heaven!... Real heaven! There are no words. None. I have never even been and what the Bible says would blow your mind! You need to check the side your on Phoenix. Cause if i really hated witches i would have never have begun this conversation let alone continued it.

  • @A2P86 I am confident in that. Every Wiccan here shares my opinion and knowledge of facts. So stop it already. I've been to the real Heaven. So again you can stop. I know what the bible says, it didnt blow my mind in the least. When I converted to Wicca, now that blew my mind. I know what side I'm on. Good & truth & love & light. You do hate Wiccans that is why you keep harassing us. If you cared you would stop. But I know you wont because you are on the side of evil demons pretending to be God.

  • @phoenix1985 Really? EVERY wiccan here on you tube? Well thats a pretty tall statement. Sigh, you know what i was going to ask you? What you saw in the 'real' heaven but you no what forget it cause i know you havent been... There are creatures in there that are beyond human comprehension and splendour unbelievable to human eyes but u say u seen it so heyy whatever. I dont hate wiccans or gays and nothing you can say can make that otherwise but i will leave just because you really want me to

  • @A2P86 Well to bad because I have been. That you dont want to know the truth is none of my concern. There are creatures in there that are beyond human comprehension and splendour unbelievable to human eyes, that is true. But I've seen so much more than you will ever know. Not because you cant, but because you dont want to. If you want to leave than please do. It would be a good and decent thing of you.

  • @phoenix1985 Just cause you want me to as i said im going! Just cause i dont want to upset YOU any further but seriously consider what ive said yea

  • @A2P86 Why on Earth would I consider a single word you have said? It was all nonsense. I know better. Save your words for some fool who will believe them.

  • @phoenix1985 I do care. I really do. Maybe, admittedly too much :(

  • @A2P86 No you dont/ Not in the slightest. You just want us all to convert to religion because you have to be right. That is your sin. Pride. Now stop harassing us & leave us in peace. It would be the first decent thing you did since you got here.

  • @phoenix1985...That's not harassment, that's conversation! I haven't once swore at you posted any profanity, just simple response to YOUR answers to me. No let's get that right YOU haven't, and you don't speak for everybody but one person might just be or become curious and Jesus will fill in the gaps for people. How am i a hypocrite? What have i said or done that has contradicted itself according the the Bible? As i told you, if i believe theres a hell and i say nothing to you im NOT Christian

  • @A2P86 If we had come to you and asked about Jesus that would be a conversation. You came on out page & started preaching. Thats harassment. No Wiccan is curious about Jesus. If they were they would come to a Christian page or go to a church. We arent & we never will be. We know to much to ever go back to a simpler faith. Do you follow all the laws of the bible? The ones about killing people who do certain things? No? Hypocrite. You either follow all of the bible or none of it. Harrasser.

  • @phoenix1985 Not necessarily. You've never just started a conversation with someone? Another Wiccan perhaps? Are you harassing them? My very first post i posted a WICCAN's accounted dream/vision of herself in hell not my thoughts. Those words weren't even mine but a former witches! How can you assume that? do you know the heart of EVERY wiccan? My friend was a true witch for 4 years and came to Christ 'unforced'. I welcome you to a Christian page, we'd gladly chat with you and wouldnt need...

  • @A2P86 No, because I'm not trying to convert them or force my opinions on them like you are. Thats what makes me an innocent person & you a evil harasser. Some Wiccans who are raised Christian have a hard time letting go of their Christian beliefs & their mind plays tricks on them. Some people arent ready to embrace the path of the Wise. More's the pity. If she turned back to Christianity than she wasnt a real Witch, probably just some fool pretending at magick. I dont feel the need to harass.

  • @phoenix1985 Its not about trying to convert or forcing opinions, its an honest conversation about hell and our religions. Come on our sites, seriously i welcome you, totally up to you, but i tell you this a REAL Christian will never turn you away! We will talk to you, argue with you if you want cause we care and we want you to hear good news! Theres a problem with your theory- my friend was raised an ATHEIST! So you tell me. Again it's not harassment. You dont have 2 talk 2 me n yet you do. Y?

  • @A2P86 If you wanted to have an honest conversation then you wouldnt have come here trying to convert us. You did which means you dont want an honest conversation. You are not a real Christian. If you were you would respect our right to have our faith as we respect yours. You care about nothing but your own pride. It is harassment, no matter how you justify it. I talk to you because I am trying to defend innocent people against your evil & bigoted harassment. I'm serving God. You aren't.

  • @phoenix1985 You know what Phoenix forget it, because i dont know what it is with you but all that bull about you defending innocent people is rubbish! Totally delusional. The only one exhibiting pride here is YOU! and i dont care what battle you think your fighting you are not love at all! I'm not trying to justify anything. I actually do care and try and converse with you for real and you spit at me. Stop trying to convince yourself your serving God cause even God dont hold grudge as long as u

  • @A2P86 You are the one coming here claiming that your God is the only true God and that Jesus is the only way & I'm the one showing pride? Please. That is laughable. I am fighting for innocent people who I care about. You are fighting fof your own pride. If you cared you would leave. I do serve God because I spread love & tolerance. You dont because you spread harassment & evil at innocent people. I dont hold grudges. I hold people accountable. Thats called justice.

  • @phoenix1985 I just told you what the bible says, not MY words but his, see how that works. Like i can tell you what shakespear said from his books, well i can tell you what God says from his book, thats not pride actually so please get that right! WHY do u keep saying that? Innocent people, what do i have a gun in my hand, are people standing in a line in front of me, you are obsessed with this. What are these other wiccans children? Ahhh and you dont think thats pride? Exercising UR justice?

  • @A2P86 No you can tell me what people wrote. Not God. God didnt magically create the bible out of thin air. It was written by man, organized by man, & translated by man. It is pride that you think it comes from God. You are harassing innocent people who want nothing more to be left alone in peace. I do not suffer from pride. You have clearly shown that you do. No, exercising Justice. Not mine, but real justice. What you have to offer, no one here wants. So leave already.

  • @phoenix1985 Again with the no one... stop trying to speak for other people! Your not God and stop acting like you are! Wow your annoying with that! Unless your a deity in wiccan im not aware of stop trying to speak for other people!!!! Mannn!!! Have a good night okay xXx

  • @A2P86 So when people are being discriminated against no one should speak for them. Shows what kind of Christian you are. You are the one here acting like God, like you know the only way, that you have the true path. Your sin is pride & its showing. I will speak for those afraid to speak. I will speak for those silenced by Christians like you. Just leave already like you said you would.

  • @phoenix1985 And by the way, youve been around phonie Christians too long, so long that you dont even recognise the genuine either that` or just pure don't want to. You have no idea what a real Christian is and i bet apart from me youve never even met one. Well u do what u have to, but dont act like your trying to do anybody any favour on here, your not defending anyone, your just proud and wont let anyone even care about you. I feel sorry for those who ever wanna be honest with you

  • @A2P86 I do know what a real Christian is. I have lots of real Christian friends. I even have an aunt who's a nun. & none of them have ever tried to convert or change me. They respect me & my faith. They are real Christians. You arent one of them. I'm defending all the innocent people on here you seek to harass. I know who cares about me. You arent 1 of them. You care about nothing & no one but your own pride. You havent been honest even once this entire time. Stop pretending.

  • @phoenix1985 Ok so what do u want me to say, yea im here cause i want you to join my religion and give me all your money and bow down and worship and serve me, right? WRONGGGGG! You know what i REALLY care about you, i wish the very best to you and i hope you have many good years and that God almighty looks with favour upon you in all you try and do in this world and if you do ever come down off the high horse and wanna chat u can inbox me. I LIKE YOU.... DEAL WITH IT!

  • @A2P86 If you really cared about me you would leave me alone. If you liked me you would leave me alone. My high horse? Well isnt that the pot calling the kettle black. You are the one who charged in here on your high horse screaming "MY GOD IS THE ONLY GOD" Why on Earth would I ever want to chat with someone as foolish and simple minded as you? I'd rather talk to my dog. Atleast he will tell the truth.

  • @phoenix1985... to swear or lose temper with you in the midst of it. Simple? Love peace harmony you said... anything else? Wouldn't talk about simpler. And you must not have read my message cause i finished telling you that the laws you just mentioned when they do certain things, JEWISH LAW and customs!!! When Christ came he fulfilled the law by explaining and expanding on it for life NOW outside of the law so actually if i did go about killing people i really would be a hypocrite! xmuch lovex

  • @A2P86 I have a short temper with people who harass innocent people in the name of their God. Your faith is a simpler faith. Thats not an insult, thats fact. Christians like you still attack, harrass, & discriminate other people like gays & Wiccans in the name of your God. Sometimes resorting to violence. The bible says to kill certain people. & since the bible is the word of God, you must do what it says. You pick & choose what you want to follow. It makes you a hypocrite. Pure & simple.

  • @phoenix1985 You sure do love that word 'harass', totally not a tru definition what ur portraying it as but im tired of arguing about you using it. Theres nothing simple about the resurrection, or salvation or the foreshadowing of the old testament, or the tabernacle of God all you don't care about anyways. I love gays and wiccans actually, i dont like the practises but i care for the people inc u, who cares if u believe me or not. I have never been violent about it, have you? Not picking...

  • @A2P86 I dont love the word. I just use it because its true. If you loved gays & Wiccans you wouldnt be here insulting & harassing them. If you cared for the people you would be fighting for their rights not trying to change them. Either you follow all the laws of the bible, old & new testament or you follow none of them. Anything else makes you a hypcrite. I have never been wrong. You have constantly been wrong. My facts are always correct. Your's arent.

  • @phoenix1985 The only one who has been insulting on here is YOU! I havent told you not to do anything you are FREE to do whatever you wish. Just as people are free to drink, smoke, commit euthanasia. Its a free country honey, do what you want! Just dont get mad when someone steps to you and challenges you. You dont think Christians get challenged about their faith...errr yea! by witches and gays alike and yet if i question you you dont like it. Well thats life! God bless you, have a good night!

  • @A2P86 Oh now you play the victim card. You discriminate against every other faith out there & gays. But when someone challenges you on it you claim religious descrimination. If you werent hating innocent people then people wouldnt challange you on it. Stop pretending you are taking the high road. You have been on the low road this entire time. Stop pretending you are anything other than what you are. A religious fanatic obsessed with their own pride & self righteousness.

  • @A2P86 Ok that last statement right there is bullshit. Wiccans come to their faith via discovery, not by conversion. And are you one of those assholes who thinks gay people chose to be gay? Just like you fundamentalists...

  • @phoenix1985 ...Not picking and choosing anything. So again and again and again your WRONG! We know what the laws were, we know what they are now, we know what they all mean and meant, if you dont read the word stop trying to challenge it cause your facts are mixed up. So no hypocrisy. Jesus was so direct he told