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Human, the phenomena to is our wonder. Complex its entirety, as mysterious in the mist, its incomprehensible intricacy, is unfathomable future. Come whither are which all to answer.
"IF YOU ONLY KNEW THE MAGNIFICENCE OF THE THREE, THE SIX AND THE NINE... THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A KEY TO THE UNIVERSE."
-NIKOLA TESLA
(AFTER CAUSING 1899 CAPE YAKATAGA AND YAKUTAY BAY EARTHQUAKES FROM COLORADO SPRINGS)
111 YEAR OLD RIDDLE SOLVED BITCHES. THAT IS WHY YOU CAN'T DATE THAT QUOTE. THAT IS WHY HE ELUDES RECOGNITION. THAT IS THE SIMPLE TRUTH THEY DILUTE WITH CONSPIRACY.
Fuck saudi arabia, fuck allah, fuck the koran and fuck arab oil. From the day lithium batteries and atomic energy was invented, we really didn't need oil except to only help deepen the pockets of the rich oil cabal and promote jizzlam.
In the next 10 or 20 years what will happen to the batteries?, will they be safely disposed of or will they be dumped to some poor country? we have an environemtal crisis in dumping used and obsolete computers out in fields where we used to grow food and have good potable water. We need think about it.
Excellent vehicle for sure, but remember that ANY car uses MORE energy in mining, transporting & assembling all the materials that go into manufacturing it, than it is likely to burn in its entire lifetime!
Obviously with electric cars they don't go on to ADD to that once they're built, but we must remember they still use fosil fuels to manufacture & transport all the materials. When we see electric lorries then we'll know things are improving for everyone & its not just toys for the rich!
these relatively expensive cars will improve the image of electric transportation, creating a market for a mass production. The r&d in this sector will result in much more efficiency and lower prices, adding to the market position. The process will take some time but as fossil prices are going up, this sector is getting more interesting :)
@ejbh3160 The electricity that electric cars use still have to be generated somehow. The electricity is just a way to transfer the energy from the power plant to the car, so the environmental impact is more complicated than it appears. I still like the Tesla Roadster however.
@hxly2 I'll tell you what buddy, go read an official dot org website called "The Offshore Valuation" & read the 'Executive Report' pdf ... it shows that here in the UK we can produce SIX times the current UK energy demands from off-shore renewables alone!! If we also have on-shore renewables like solar etc and energy conservation & low-energy products & goods, then there is enough energy off-shore to be energy exporters as well as have enough for an all electric transport infrastructure.
ok i picked up a bug that killed my sound, so can only go by comments and vision ,but agree with the use of off peak recharge [noting the electric car gm put out [in the 80's]to the market cost a few cents to recharge,but recall it was stopped because govt offered huge[20,000 each suv]subsidies to gm to produce suv's and stop their production of electric vehicles
your govt[via tax payer subsidy,stopped the last production of the elec-trick vehicle]the petrol lobby wont let ev happen go figure
These cars will NEVER cripple the energy grid. Its not like tomorrow morning there will be 25 million of them on the road. Slowly the change will happen. Hydrogen is a waste of time. Pretty soon solar technology will be efficient enough to start building more solar electric plants little by little until eventually we will be mostly solar and a lot cleaner.
I hear the speed is inhibited so it will only go 135. I guarantee you that it could go faster if it can make it from 0-60 in 4 seconds. They just have to slow it down so the cops can catch you if your speeding.
To all you guys that think electric cars would cripple the energy grid - pull your head out of the sand. It's a function of efficiency. Car engines achieve MUCH lower efficiency than large scale power plants. So even if the stupidest thing on earth came to pass: electric plants that burned the gasoline that cars weren't using - you'd have an instant reduction in total fuel requirements. Add to that the extremely high efficiency of the electric motors Tesla designed and you're gold! Er, green!
You're correct and lets hope that a shift to electrics is actually pushed. A focus at the same time on making our power plants renewable would be astounding in curbing greenhouse emissions. =)
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When 25 million of these things get plugged into an electrical outlet to be recharged every 12 hours or so wil cripple , CRIPPLE!!! the power grid of not just N.American but any continent that uses these cars in great number. nations will have to build coal plants just as a stop gap measure. In the US most nuclear plants are getting old and new ones arent being built. Not enough solar,hydro,wind and geothermo allternatives on deck to handle such a demand increase
oh you mean like when 300 million computers get plugged in? didn't you here the "energy positive" part? let me explain it for you. Solar panel on car make power, make more power from solar then car uses. car makes energy.
What a load of BS. If you know anything about energy - then you should check out so called "energy peaks" and what nighttime charging (load leveling) would do to them and how this would positively affect the use of energy. Not to mention the effectiveness of the eletric motors.
To all you guys that think electric cars would cripple the energy grid - pull your head out of the sand. It's a function of efficiency. Car engines achieve MUCH lower efficiency than large scale power plants. So even if the stupidest thing on earth came to pass: electric plants that burned the gasoline that cars weren't using - you'd have an instant reduction in total fuel requirements. Add to that the extremely high efficiency of the electric motors Tesla designed and you're gold! Er, green!
Global warming huh? The cattle industry is more responsible for global warming than all the worlds public transportation. ;0) Something to think about. I'm NOT ADVOCATING being a vegan! Eat steak, but don't be such a band wagoner!
Purchases of all Electric Vehicles will be totally tax free and get other purchase incentives, large registration rebates and other benefits too... oh wait, do They really care, or do they just say they do? Hmmm?
Wow dude that's awesome. People would never buy electric cars for one huge reason I think, speed and look and now...This! It's awesome! No pollution, no noise, goes fast and looks just pure awesome! I hope they develop alot more cars like this, affordable ones.
Scotsdoc poted an interesting reply a few back. I think he is very wrong about the power needed to maintain 60mph. For example an 850 mini has in the region of 25kW output and does around 75mph. I suspect the Tesla would use under 10kW to maintain 60mph. Bearing in mind the power requirement is roughly proportional to the CUBE of the speed.
The electric car itself is very efficient hence no radiator or cooling fans... where the electricity originally comes from of course may be different.
why does the man say that this is an efficient car? That makes no sense. This is a power hungry electric motor car that will force coal plants to work overt time. Co2 is not bad for the atmosphere... coal smog is .
Because all our electricity comes from Coal right? You fucking idiot. C02 is bad for the atmosphere, especially at the rate it's being dumped into ours. Please know what the fuck you're talking about before you open your mouth.
Most of the electricity in the united states comes from coal. CO2 is very good for the atmosphere because all life on earth depends on it. I am a fucking organic chemistry student and I know what the fuck I am talking about. And I didnt mean to diss this car. The Tesla is supa sweet and very efficient at speeds below 75 mph.
135? that's crap, yeah i'm stickin with the big gas guzzling engines, it doesn't even sound sweet or unique like most cars, hell it doesn't have a sound at all.
Are you totally retarded or just fifteen years old? Do you not get that we're destroying our planet because of our total dependence, upon fossil fuels? What's so hard to understand? This is a car that performs like the some of the greats, without any of the harmful waste.
1st of all bitch it does not compare with anythin gr8, the gr8s hit 60 in the 3 secs and hit the 200mph easily, 2nd of all do u see a point of it if it will only be rich ppl's toy? this tech is supposed to be in economy cars, public transportation and trucks and stuff like that to prevent polution, sellin it to a minoraty of the sports car market wont save the little baby animals, so when i made my opinion on it, i ment the performance and nuthin else, got it retard?
If you read the Top Gear review(s) on this car, you'll understand the logic not just behind it, but behind the rest of the cars the company offers, as well as the marketing approach for building this car. It's rather brilliant.
what are the other cars they make? haven't seen any yet. i know what the logic is, they're doin it to improve the tech and make it cheaper so they can build other cars that are sold more widely and not to the sports minority.
it's just that dumbass tried to make me look like a retard when the only thing i was talkin about is the top speed, which is pathetic, since i can reach 127 miles in my 1.6 lancer, so i won't call this an "electric supercar".
The idea behind the Tesla Roadster is not to create an electric car with supercar performance.
They're approaching the electric car idea from another standpoint - instead creating an electric car that people WANT, instead of NEED. I've only read of two other cars, one priced at 15,000pounds, and one priced 30,000pounds.
now those cars sound pretty neat, sure hope they get them here, very reasonable prices. yeah i know about the different approach, i told u that i already know the whole point of the car :p
like i said i was just commenting about the performance despite the fact if it's electric or fueled, but that dude i first replied to has sumthin up his ass, look at the comment he put in my profile.
and in case any1 else wan't to take a swing at me, u shud know that I DO LIKE THIS CAR!!
this car looks sick. if buying an expensive car like bmw or mercedes, you might as well buy this car because the money you save is worth it. paying fucken 100 dollars for a fucken full tank of gas in a hummer every 2 days is sad. if they did make a Electric hummer than it would kill this car.
Death666wish: They are entering the market with a high end car, and in 2 - 5 years they intend on producing a 49k price point sedan and then a 30k price point family car. They've already gotten sited in NM and are proceeding on that.
Umm...ok. I highly doubt you knew about Tesla before I knew how a car engine works, since I knew that about 30 years ago :) And I was just trying to provide info that i thought you might not have, not criticize you. We're on the same side, my friend :)
sorry if i sounded agressive, but a lot of ppl reply to my comments on the performance part as if i was ignorant or sumthin, one even comented on my profile.
Read more about it before you make ignorant statements. The Elise, which the Tesla Roadster is based off of, doesn't do much faster than 150 mph, yet there are videos, right here on YouTube, of an Elise taking down a Porsche GT3, and a Ferrari F40. The Tesla Roadster simply does the same thing without using any gas. There's hardly a downside.
QUICK YES. QUIET YES. But useless. Fast for how many miles?? 250 miles in average conditions at a speed of 60 MPH is impossible with the battery capacity that tiny car can accommodate! It'll take 60-70KW to keep that car at 60/mph in zero wind conditions. Huge batteries for that amount Gas i/c cars get lighter as the journey proceeds: Batteries do not: A battery starts with a full load of oxidant too. Gas I/C cars pick oxidant(oxygen) from the air.
google waterpowered car. an inventor in the phillipines has been driving several cars he converted to water power/hydrogen since the 60's. uses the standard internal combustion engine with a small hydrogen converter he invented. Add water, ou're good to go.... AMAZING! Unfortunately no one will finance the project...
WATCH YOUR BACK. Water-power car inventors in the US have been jailed on trumped-up charges (Carl Cella), threated with loaded guns, and even murdered (Stan Meyer). Cella's plans are on the web, and featured in NEXUS magazine in 1996.
USN spent $Billions developing reliable power units for torpedos in the 70'3.Batteries and fuel cells were too unreliable. Finally they developed a rotary shaft internal combustion engine that was reliable and gave greater range and enabled the torpedo to hunt it's prey over a far greater range(but at the expense of noise)I do not believe figures given for this car..Energy squares as the increase of the speed..This is why supersonic transport planes are uneconomic.
Hey, if you believe what you say.."WHY IS THE USN NOT USING BATTERY POWER IN THEIR TORPEDOS TODAY?"
Cost is no object but reliability and range are paramount and as of today their little internal combustion engine wins hands down, but at the expense of silence, I'll admit.
Naming this car "Tesla" is a great dis-service to the work of Nikola Tesla. Tesla's electric car operated on "alternate" electric priciples which are based on ether technology, drawing power from what the establishment will only recognize as "zero point energy", available in the vacuum of space. It is propaganda for ignorance. Go learn the truth.
I have to disagree. Those doing disservice to Nikola Tesla are the "free energy" cranks who think Tesla was some kind of alien. They are tainting his good name as a scientist by associating him with their crackpot nonsense.
The "crackpot nonsense" comes from those, who, not having studied "alternative theory" of electric nature, not only indignantly deny the true nature of Tesla's work, but proclaim that "free energy" technologies don't exist because their establishment-paid professors told them so. Not everything is found in commercialized textbooks. However, I do think that this car is a break-through in electric car philosophy. Accolades! for the mainstream technology (in this case).
Right. Any HIGH-efficiency is suppresed, not just zero-point energy,and cold fusion, which has been quietly replicated the world over in the last 16-years. Eugene Mallove, Cold Fusion's biggest and most brillian proponet, was BRUTALLY murdered three years ago, as a WARNING to other researchers. Dr. John Mack, Harvard UFO abduction expert, was killed in a mysterious car-accident in England. Watch your back.
And of course the big US companies are struggling to develop petrol/diesel cars on the money they haven't got - let alone the burden of producing cars inconvenient have to be emissions free....
The problem at the moment is that there is no incentive for the free market to produce cars such as these, even despite the fact that the technology is available. Secondly, the oil companies, Texaco, for example hold the patents for the use of electric battery technology for automotive use.
"The problem at the moment is that there is no incentive for the free market to produce cars such as these" -- How about money? I'm not massively rich, and I've never bought a new car. But I'd buy one of these new.
Mark my words: once one player breaks into the market and starts making the real money that is out there for companies like tesla, it's over. Then GM gets in, Toyota, everyone.
Don't forget that these machines are still heavily subsidised, from R&D right through production to purchase. I would love to see a time when electric cars will not be popular for a long time until the technology itself becomes much more cheaper, widely produced, and governments actually put through legislation to force companies to think diffferently.
Everything except battery technology and some safety gear is pretty much where it needs to be. We can mass produce everything else, and at a generally cheaper price (since less parts are needed) than conventional internal combustion vehicles. We just need the market of scale to make it affordable.
Battery technology is the major problem, and there are lots (and I mean LOTS) of companies trying to solve it. Hopefully one of them does.
Down with big oil. Props to the 200 people lucky enough to get one and hopefully get this in their possession so I too can get one of these one day when I get enough money to get one or perhaps get a cheaper model whenever that arrives.
Thousands won't be produced on a yearly basis right off the bat and starting off with a car that can whoop the ass of respectable V8's & V12's is enough to get big oil pissing their pants on what could happen within the next decade.
Unfortuantly electric cars won't help as much as we want it to. If everyone had an electric car there would still be the fact that you have to charge it and electricity is currently being made using fossil fuels (something that burns which turns a magnet within a metal coil, etc etc). However i still think electric cars are the way to go... i got something wrong in the fossil fuel bit didn't i? >_<
Everyone charges their cell phone and laptop which is lithium battry powered, but you don't hear any screaming, or backlash about increased use of polluting electricity! Lithium batteries only take an HOUR OR LESS TO CHARGE. That is nothing. One centralised pollution source, or tens of millions? You do the math.
There are all sorts of ways to create electricity. There is hydroelectric, wind, solar, tidal, geothermal, nuclear. I'm sure there are more but I can't remember them right now. Luckily, were i live we have the opportunity to use all of the ways I have listed above.
If I'd win millions in a lottery. I'd buy a tesla radster and a Wrightspeed/ariel atom car and bombard the crap out of the Ford, GM, and other gas guzzler dealerships with electric car propaganda!!
These batteries are better, and cheaper than the ones in those $100,000+ sportscars. They are as cheap as lead-acid batteries, and they hold up for 1100 charges.
It's a Chinese electric car, which will be imported into the USA next year. The driving range is almost as good as those sports cars above. But it only costs $28500.
The Chinese can get their batteries down in price without having automotive volume due to cheap labor.
Produced in sufficient volume for 20,000+ cars per year, those expensive batteries used in the Tesla Roadster and other expensive cars would be around $250/kWh according to AC Propulsion. Currently around $750/kWh due to low volume relative to what a car would use.
Be wary of Chinese batteries. Initial run of Thundersky batteries were crap, although they have apparently gotten much better.
Tesla plans a less expensive electric sedan about 2 years down the road. I'm sure, quicker, if OPEC gets nastier. If you own a Prius, calcars.org gives you a links to some companis that will switch-out the NiMH batteries to Lithium-ion batteries, giving you more commute range on battery alone before the hybrid gas/electric kicks in. Essentially, if your commute is 50m or less, the gas engine never needs to kick in, giving you a 50m commute at 1c per mile.
A $50k luxury sedan that Tesla is planning probably won't do it for the masses.
We need electrics now, the oil crisis is now and getting exponentially worse. We just don't have 10-15 years for Tesla to raise the capital needed so a mass produced $20k electric sedan can be made.
Thank the auto industry, oil industry, and our own government for putting us in this mess. Their solution to getting us out? More oil wars and a loss of our civil liberties, to maximize profit and taxes no less.
Actually, Tesla has some deep-pockets backers from Paypal, Google & Ebay. They only used 25 mil of the 65 mil offered to get off the ground. Lotus is a believer. They're producing it.
Do you realize how expensive it is to mass produce a car in tens of thousands of units a year, and get it sufficiently crash tested to pass regulations?
It's not on the order of $65 million, more like $200+ million. That $25 million they used sounds about right for a low volume car. If they sell 1,000 a year at $80k each, they might raise the funds in 2 years, which would be on target with their goals of a more affordable car in that time ~$50k. But I assume little/no setbacks; not realistic.
It's more than merely swithing out powerplants. The body of the car itself was changed and the chassis architecture had to be modified so it could accomodate the differing powerplant. It uses a transmission more suited to the powwerband of an electric motor as well. The car probably shares less than half the components of the Elise it is based on.
While cheaper than building from the ground up, this is still a costly process and requires its own set of rigorous testing.
Yeah. Tesla doesn't have the capital to yet mass produce a car. So when you're only makling a few hundred of them, price will be very high. This applies to gas cars as well as electric cars.
The major automakers have mass production capability, but refuse to make highway capable electric cars.
Since the late 90s, we had technology for 200+ mile range family sedans that do 0-60 in 8 seconds and cost $20k. Mass production is eneded to bring costs down.
Wait a minute, I thought the electric car had been killed - according to some goof-ball movie. Now it's back? Ohhh, I'm sooo confused! But seriously, the old electrics failed for one reason - they sucked. They were ugly and had no range. Otoh, this car is beautiful. And if the range is all it's said to be, they just might have a winner on their hands. I hope it's a sucess!
NiMH EV1 in 1998 did 140-160 miles per charge(mpc), 225 driven gently at a Tour De Sol. Late 90s Solectria Force NiMH did 180-200 mpc, was normal-bodied Geo Metro sedan. Solectria Sunrise did over 300 mpc on NiMH batteries, did a 373 mile highway range run. The 90s is when EV technology became viable. "Who Killed the Electric Car" tries to explain why we can't buy one yet, given that technology has been there for a decade, demand was present, and cost isn't an issue with high production volume.
No, I only saw the trailer. I really hope this car is a success, but considering the availability of electricity in certain parts of the country - especially in summer, I'm not sure electrics are the answer. Unless more nuclear comes online.
Most charging will be done during off peak hours anyway. Off peak capacity is enough for tens of millions of EVs in this country with our current generating capacity.
You are right on the money. the only one problem still is the batttery costs and life. V2G (vehicle to grid electric or plug in Hybrid has to be the best way to go right now. Gm helped innovate this in the first place give credit where credit is due.
A plug-in hybrid is a lot more complicated technically and would always need to lug around the internal combustion engine, so it would be more expensive and wouldn't have the same range as a pure electric.
As though an ALL electric car with a 250mi range and 0-60 in 3.8 sec acceleration for the price of a present day high end gas guzzling sports car is not a ground-breaking news worthy event. It's positively earth shattering and deserves the same media consideration given to the unveilings of the newest models of hummer or mustang...both of which show up on the Today Show or Nightly News days after their unveiling. Please YouTube...feature this video.
Please YouTube features this video. The mainstream media has, quite curiously, ignored every phase of this important landmark. From the development of the car, to the unprecedented startup of a car company by techno giant founders of eBay, PayPal, and Google, AND the recent unveiling...there has yet to be a single word mentioned in the mainstream.
don't know but me and my wife will be more than likely buying one. it can only help make this point clearer: "we dont want to be oil dependant thank you" : )
stop the crap use the free market to dominate gas cars if you and all your buddies would only buy and support electric cars. IC cars will become obsolete
I still like Nuclear Cars better.
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@HugoReitveldz No HAARP is nothing like and wasn't a twinkle when Tesla made 1899 Yakutat Bay and Cape Yakataga. Room 3327. Obsessive with threes.
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20205000000720 3 years ago
drove it today, unbelievable acceleration, you are unable to breathe a moment.
impressive little car ...
crushy123 3 years ago 11
This is the future.
anothernord 3 years ago 17
@anothernord TESLA MADE EARTHQUAKES IN 1899.
SEPTEMBER 3, 1899
SEPTEMBER 6, 1899
SEPTEMBER 9, 1899
"IF YOU ONLY KNEW THE MAGNIFICENCE OF THE THREE, THE SIX AND THE NINE... THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A KEY TO THE UNIVERSE."
-NIKOLA TESLA
(AFTER CAUSING 1899 CAPE YAKATAGA AND YAKUTAY BAY EARTHQUAKES FROM COLORADO SPRINGS)
111 YEAR OLD RIDDLE SOLVED BITCHES. THAT IS WHY YOU CAN'T DATE THAT QUOTE. THAT IS WHY HE ELUDES RECOGNITION. THAT IS THE SIMPLE TRUTH THEY DILUTE WITH CONSPIRACY.
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insightllc 1 year ago
I just sat in one today, check it out, tesla is on santa monica blvd just out of century city.
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Fuck saudi arabia, fuck allah, fuck the koran and fuck arab oil. From the day lithium batteries and atomic energy was invented, we really didn't need oil except to only help deepen the pockets of the rich oil cabal and promote jizzlam.
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wanlanun 2 years ago
this makes me feel better with paypal fees.
i can pretend my money is going toward this project.
fusionfreq 3 years ago
In the next 10 or 20 years what will happen to the batteries?, will they be safely disposed of or will they be dumped to some poor country? we have an environemtal crisis in dumping used and obsolete computers out in fields where we used to grow food and have good potable water. We need think about it.
Reubennige 3 years ago
Lithium ion batteries can be more safely disposed of than any other power-source!
Beamshipcaptain 3 years ago
Excellent vehicle for sure, but remember that ANY car uses MORE energy in mining, transporting & assembling all the materials that go into manufacturing it, than it is likely to burn in its entire lifetime!
Obviously with electric cars they don't go on to ADD to that once they're built, but we must remember they still use fosil fuels to manufacture & transport all the materials. When we see electric lorries then we'll know things are improving for everyone & its not just toys for the rich!
ejbh3160 3 years ago
these relatively expensive cars will improve the image of electric transportation, creating a market for a mass production. The r&d in this sector will result in much more efficiency and lower prices, adding to the market position. The process will take some time but as fossil prices are going up, this sector is getting more interesting :)
nippelfrost 3 years ago 4
@ejbh3160 The electricity that electric cars use still have to be generated somehow. The electricity is just a way to transfer the energy from the power plant to the car, so the environmental impact is more complicated than it appears. I still like the Tesla Roadster however.
hxly2 4 days ago
@hxly2 I'll tell you what buddy, go read an official dot org website called "The Offshore Valuation" & read the 'Executive Report' pdf ... it shows that here in the UK we can produce SIX times the current UK energy demands from off-shore renewables alone!! If we also have on-shore renewables like solar etc and energy conservation & low-energy products & goods, then there is enough energy off-shore to be energy exporters as well as have enough for an all electric transport infrastructure.
ejbh3160 3 days ago
how I love this electric acceleration sound,hmmmm.
Like when a camera flash capacitor is charging up, totaly sweet
dakiro222 3 years ago
ok i picked up a bug that killed my sound, so can only go by comments and vision ,but agree with the use of off peak recharge [noting the electric car gm put out [in the 80's]to the market cost a few cents to recharge,but recall it was stopped because govt offered huge[20,000 each suv]subsidies to gm to produce suv's and stop their production of electric vehicles
your govt[via tax payer subsidy,stopped the last production of the elec-trick vehicle]the petrol lobby wont let ev happen go figure
oneundergod 3 years ago
These cars will NEVER cripple the energy grid. Its not like tomorrow morning there will be 25 million of them on the road. Slowly the change will happen. Hydrogen is a waste of time. Pretty soon solar technology will be efficient enough to start building more solar electric plants little by little until eventually we will be mostly solar and a lot cleaner.
AUwarrior5 4 years ago 6
I hear the speed is inhibited so it will only go 135. I guarantee you that it could go faster if it can make it from 0-60 in 4 seconds. They just have to slow it down so the cops can catch you if your speeding.
P.S. I love you guys. Seriously.
digestedsheepstomach 4 years ago 4
To all you guys that think electric cars would cripple the energy grid - pull your head out of the sand. It's a function of efficiency. Car engines achieve MUCH lower efficiency than large scale power plants. So even if the stupidest thing on earth came to pass: electric plants that burned the gasoline that cars weren't using - you'd have an instant reduction in total fuel requirements. Add to that the extremely high efficiency of the electric motors Tesla designed and you're gold! Er, green!
TimTrimT 4 years ago 4
You're correct and lets hope that a shift to electrics is actually pushed. A focus at the same time on making our power plants renewable would be astounding in curbing greenhouse emissions. =)
AlexWasBored 4 years ago
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When 25 million of these things get plugged into an electrical outlet to be recharged every 12 hours or so wil cripple , CRIPPLE!!! the power grid of not just N.American but any continent that uses these cars in great number. nations will have to build coal plants just as a stop gap measure. In the US most nuclear plants are getting old and new ones arent being built. Not enough solar,hydro,wind and geothermo allternatives on deck to handle such a demand increase
maggotybalogna 4 years ago
oh you mean like when 300 million computers get plugged in? didn't you here the "energy positive" part? let me explain it for you. Solar panel on car make power, make more power from solar then car uses. car makes energy.
naught405 4 years ago
What a load of BS. If you know anything about energy - then you should check out so called "energy peaks" and what nighttime charging (load leveling) would do to them and how this would positively affect the use of energy. Not to mention the effectiveness of the eletric motors.
Soodla 4 years ago 2
To all you guys that think electric cars would cripple the energy grid - pull your head out of the sand. It's a function of efficiency. Car engines achieve MUCH lower efficiency than large scale power plants. So even if the stupidest thing on earth came to pass: electric plants that burned the gasoline that cars weren't using - you'd have an instant reduction in total fuel requirements. Add to that the extremely high efficiency of the electric motors Tesla designed and you're gold! Er, green!
TimTrimT 4 years ago
It's a good thing they're naming more things after Tesla. Everyone else got credit for his work ]: He was a great man.
oldskewlboy 4 years ago
Global warming huh? The cattle industry is more responsible for global warming than all the worlds public transportation. ;0) Something to think about. I'm NOT ADVOCATING being a vegan! Eat steak, but don't be such a band wagoner!
BlueshirtKonspiracy 4 years ago
really really cool
menonfire12 4 years ago
... to "papercut" coal is for stockings. Sun, water & wind, open your mind!
RobbPrentice 4 years ago
Sure a car that runs off electricity is great, but when you plug the car into the outlet, the power just comes from a coal power plant!
papercut5096 4 years ago
A power plant, even coal, is much more efficient than a car. You will still be polluting less with an electric car.
Lewie82 4 years ago 3
really? the solar one sounds good, too i guess
brosbdm 4 years ago
Ehrm, no :P Car engines are ten times more efficient than coal power plants.
johnnyvnl 4 years ago
carbon dioxide emissions are not as bad as carbon monoxide emissions
RoGu3Kn1ght 4 years ago
Partially correct, let's not belittle the effects of CO2. Consider carbonic acid, which lowers pH levels, ultimately affecting marine life.....
PHof1 4 years ago
all man don't be such a pessimist.
Lemurai 4 years ago
Oil companies want this car phased out because it hurts their profits.
Hooray for the electric car makers!
I love you guys for sticking for what is greener despite profits. I want an electric car one day when they are cheap enough.
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lokillaa22 4 years ago
Purchases of all Electric Vehicles will be totally tax free and get other purchase incentives, large registration rebates and other benefits too... oh wait, do They really care, or do they just say they do? Hmmm?
RockManAU 4 years ago
Wow dude that's awesome. People would never buy electric cars for one huge reason I think, speed and look and now...This! It's awesome! No pollution, no noise, goes fast and looks just pure awesome! I hope they develop alot more cars like this, affordable ones.
AC8Gambler 4 years ago 2
Electric is the future. When they come out with the 30k 4-door sedan, I'm buying it.
OBXastronaut 4 years ago
my name is tesla but im a girl! love the car!
gigglesrule123 4 years ago
what the fuck is wrong with this page? i want to reply and it keeps tellin i put a url or email, i din't put anything DAMN IT
Death666wish 4 years ago
I'm so buying this one.
Janos86 4 years ago 2
Holy crap the car sounds sooo futuristic! And freakin awesome.
Andyman3k 4 years ago
Scotsdoc poted an interesting reply a few back. I think he is very wrong about the power needed to maintain 60mph. For example an 850 mini has in the region of 25kW output and does around 75mph. I suspect the Tesla would use under 10kW to maintain 60mph. Bearing in mind the power requirement is roughly proportional to the CUBE of the speed.
The electric car itself is very efficient hence no radiator or cooling fans... where the electricity originally comes from of course may be different.
g0fvt 4 years ago
why does the man say that this is an efficient car? That makes no sense. This is a power hungry electric motor car that will force coal plants to work overt time. Co2 is not bad for the atmosphere... coal smog is .
formula1fan07 4 years ago
Because all our electricity comes from Coal right? You fucking idiot. C02 is bad for the atmosphere, especially at the rate it's being dumped into ours. Please know what the fuck you're talking about before you open your mouth.
estisfatuus 4 years ago
Most of the electricity in the united states comes from coal. CO2 is very good for the atmosphere because all life on earth depends on it. I am a fucking organic chemistry student and I know what the fuck I am talking about. And I didnt mean to diss this car. The Tesla is supa sweet and very efficient at speeds below 75 mph.
kooolaidred 4 years ago
135? that's crap, yeah i'm stickin with the big gas guzzling engines, it doesn't even sound sweet or unique like most cars, hell it doesn't have a sound at all.
Death666wish 4 years ago
Are you totally retarded or just fifteen years old? Do you not get that we're destroying our planet because of our total dependence, upon fossil fuels? What's so hard to understand? This is a car that performs like the some of the greats, without any of the harmful waste.
estisfatuus 4 years ago
1st of all bitch it does not compare with anythin gr8, the gr8s hit 60 in the 3 secs and hit the 200mph easily, 2nd of all do u see a point of it if it will only be rich ppl's toy? this tech is supposed to be in economy cars, public transportation and trucks and stuff like that to prevent polution, sellin it to a minoraty of the sports car market wont save the little baby animals, so when i made my opinion on it, i ment the performance and nuthin else, got it retard?
Death666wish 4 years ago
If you read the Top Gear review(s) on this car, you'll understand the logic not just behind it, but behind the rest of the cars the company offers, as well as the marketing approach for building this car. It's rather brilliant.
ShortySIG552 4 years ago
what are the other cars they make? haven't seen any yet. i know what the logic is, they're doin it to improve the tech and make it cheaper so they can build other cars that are sold more widely and not to the sports minority.
it's just that dumbass tried to make me look like a retard when the only thing i was talkin about is the top speed, which is pathetic, since i can reach 127 miles in my 1.6 lancer, so i won't call this an "electric supercar".
Death666wish 4 years ago
Read the Top Gear article.
The idea behind the Tesla Roadster is not to create an electric car with supercar performance.
They're approaching the electric car idea from another standpoint - instead creating an electric car that people WANT, instead of NEED. I've only read of two other cars, one priced at 15,000pounds, and one priced 30,000pounds.
ShortySIG552 4 years ago
now those cars sound pretty neat, sure hope they get them here, very reasonable prices. yeah i know about the different approach, i told u that i already know the whole point of the car :p
like i said i was just commenting about the performance despite the fact if it's electric or fueled, but that dude i first replied to has sumthin up his ass, look at the comment he put in my profile.
and in case any1 else wan't to take a swing at me, u shud know that I DO LIKE THIS CAR!!
Death666wish 4 years ago
this car looks sick. if buying an expensive car like bmw or mercedes, you might as well buy this car because the money you save is worth it. paying fucken 100 dollars for a fucken full tank of gas in a hummer every 2 days is sad. if they did make a Electric hummer than it would kill this car.
Donelop 4 years ago
hummers are shit. exept for the H1
Death666wish 4 years ago
well to bad the h1 is discontinued. that car rapes of road. and the h2 is just an over sized jeep.
Donelop 4 years ago
Death666wish: They are entering the market with a high end car, and in 2 - 5 years they intend on producing a 49k price point sedan and then a 30k price point family car. They've already gotten sited in NM and are proceeding on that.
knome 4 years ago
i know about tesla before u knew how a car engine works, i know what they're doing, i know what their plans.
i'm 100% with this tech and what they are doing and their goals.
when i talk about performance, i don't care if the car runs on sh*t, get what i'm sayin people damn it.
Death666wish 4 years ago
Umm...ok. I highly doubt you knew about Tesla before I knew how a car engine works, since I knew that about 30 years ago :) And I was just trying to provide info that i thought you might not have, not criticize you. We're on the same side, my friend :)
knome 4 years ago
sorry if i sounded agressive, but a lot of ppl reply to my comments on the performance part as if i was ignorant or sumthin, one even comented on my profile.
and i'm kinda short tempered, so sorry again :)
Death666wish 4 years ago
Read more about it before you make ignorant statements. The Elise, which the Tesla Roadster is based off of, doesn't do much faster than 150 mph, yet there are videos, right here on YouTube, of an Elise taking down a Porsche GT3, and a Ferrari F40. The Tesla Roadster simply does the same thing without using any gas. There's hardly a downside.
ShortySIG552 4 years ago
i love it :-)
jimbob780 4 years ago
QUICK YES. QUIET YES. But useless. Fast for how many miles?? 250 miles in average conditions at a speed of 60 MPH is impossible with the battery capacity that tiny car can accommodate! It'll take 60-70KW to keep that car at 60/mph in zero wind conditions. Huge batteries for that amount Gas i/c cars get lighter as the journey proceeds: Batteries do not: A battery starts with a full load of oxidant too. Gas I/C cars pick oxidant(oxygen) from the air.
SCOTSDOC 4 years ago
Depends on how the price will be Ill buy one as soon as it comes to my country
YagoSTVZ 4 years ago
google waterpowered car. an inventor in the phillipines has been driving several cars he converted to water power/hydrogen since the 60's. uses the standard internal combustion engine with a small hydrogen converter he invented. Add water, ou're good to go.... AMAZING! Unfortunately no one will finance the project...
livanletliv 4 years ago
WATCH YOUR BACK. Water-power car inventors in the US have been jailed on trumped-up charges (Carl Cella), threated with loaded guns, and even murdered (Stan Meyer). Cella's plans are on the web, and featured in NEXUS magazine in 1996.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
bmw had a water-powered concept car, anyone dead there?
Death666wish 4 years ago
awesome looking car....almost like Koenigsegg CCR+ Lotus Elise
Teboner92 4 years ago
Bravo ! Congratulations for TESLA MOTORS !
nicolaienvlad 4 years ago
SOUNDS LIKE A STOCK MARKET PROMOTION
Remember Bri-ex. All the banks were suckered in to this scam. Because they did not want to appear foolish!! Nobody said "I'm from Peoria, Show me"
SCOTSDOC 5 years ago
USN spent $Billions developing reliable power units for torpedos in the 70'3.Batteries and fuel cells were too unreliable. Finally they developed a rotary shaft internal combustion engine that was reliable and gave greater range and enabled the torpedo to hunt it's prey over a far greater range(but at the expense of noise)I do not believe figures given for this car..Energy squares as the increase of the speed..This is why supersonic transport planes are uneconomic.
SCOTSDOC 5 years ago
ya but thats back in the 70s....long time ago..now batteries are much more reliable
Teboner92 4 years ago
Hey, if you believe what you say.."WHY IS THE USN NOT USING BATTERY POWER IN THEIR TORPEDOS TODAY?"
Cost is no object but reliability and range are paramount and as of today their little internal combustion engine wins hands down, but at the expense of silence, I'll admit.
SCOTSDOC 4 years ago
the answer is the gas companies. they control everything
onista 4 years ago
Naming this car "Tesla" is a great dis-service to the work of Nikola Tesla. Tesla's electric car operated on "alternate" electric priciples which are based on ether technology, drawing power from what the establishment will only recognize as "zero point energy", available in the vacuum of space. It is propaganda for ignorance. Go learn the truth.
RjThisper 5 years ago
I have to disagree. Those doing disservice to Nikola Tesla are the "free energy" cranks who think Tesla was some kind of alien. They are tainting his good name as a scientist by associating him with their crackpot nonsense.
Zobeid 5 years ago
The "crackpot nonsense" comes from those, who, not having studied "alternative theory" of electric nature, not only indignantly deny the true nature of Tesla's work, but proclaim that "free energy" technologies don't exist because their establishment-paid professors told them so. Not everything is found in commercialized textbooks. However, I do think that this car is a break-through in electric car philosophy. Accolades! for the mainstream technology (in this case).
RjThisper 5 years ago
Right. Any HIGH-efficiency is suppresed, not just zero-point energy,and cold fusion, which has been quietly replicated the world over in the last 16-years. Eugene Mallove, Cold Fusion's biggest and most brillian proponet, was BRUTALLY murdered three years ago, as a WARNING to other researchers. Dr. John Mack, Harvard UFO abduction expert, was killed in a mysterious car-accident in England. Watch your back.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
Let's do it!
mikoguy 5 years ago
I want to be able to afford this car ASAP! Down with bigOil!
tuberaul 5 years ago
And of course the big US companies are struggling to develop petrol/diesel cars on the money they haven't got - let alone the burden of producing cars inconvenient have to be emissions free....
TheSaintST1 5 years ago
The problem at the moment is that there is no incentive for the free market to produce cars such as these, even despite the fact that the technology is available. Secondly, the oil companies, Texaco, for example hold the patents for the use of electric battery technology for automotive use.
TheSaintST1 5 years ago
"The problem at the moment is that there is no incentive for the free market to produce cars such as these" -- How about money? I'm not massively rich, and I've never bought a new car. But I'd buy one of these new.
Mark my words: once one player breaks into the market and starts making the real money that is out there for companies like tesla, it's over. Then GM gets in, Toyota, everyone.
triswarkentin 5 years ago
Don't forget that these machines are still heavily subsidised, from R&D right through production to purchase. I would love to see a time when electric cars will not be popular for a long time until the technology itself becomes much more cheaper, widely produced, and governments actually put through legislation to force companies to think diffferently.
TheSaintST1 5 years ago
Everything except battery technology and some safety gear is pretty much where it needs to be. We can mass produce everything else, and at a generally cheaper price (since less parts are needed) than conventional internal combustion vehicles. We just need the market of scale to make it affordable.
Battery technology is the major problem, and there are lots (and I mean LOTS) of companies trying to solve it. Hopefully one of them does.
triswarkentin 5 years ago
Google: APOGEE lithium-polymer batteries. We have the technology!
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
Down with big oil. Props to the 200 people lucky enough to get one and hopefully get this in their possession so I too can get one of these one day when I get enough money to get one or perhaps get a cheaper model whenever that arrives.
Thousands won't be produced on a yearly basis right off the bat and starting off with a car that can whoop the ass of respectable V8's & V12's is enough to get big oil pissing their pants on what could happen within the next decade.
mbattol 5 years ago
owesome!
abaanante 5 years ago
TESLA ROCKS! Keep up the good work guys. Get a $30,000 dollar model out. Soon. What can I do to help?
duffmcqueen 5 years ago
Unfortuantly electric cars won't help as much as we want it to. If everyone had an electric car there would still be the fact that you have to charge it and electricity is currently being made using fossil fuels (something that burns which turns a magnet within a metal coil, etc etc). However i still think electric cars are the way to go... i got something wrong in the fossil fuel bit didn't i? >_<
VampiricNinja 5 years ago
Everyone charges their cell phone and laptop which is lithium battry powered, but you don't hear any screaming, or backlash about increased use of polluting electricity! Lithium batteries only take an HOUR OR LESS TO CHARGE. That is nothing. One centralised pollution source, or tens of millions? You do the math.
Beamshipcaptain 4 years ago
There are all sorts of ways to create electricity. There is hydroelectric, wind, solar, tidal, geothermal, nuclear. I'm sure there are more but I can't remember them right now. Luckily, were i live we have the opportunity to use all of the ways I have listed above.
onista 4 years ago
I would love to see the Stig do a lap in this thing! :)
edthejester 5 years ago
Hell ya! That would be sweet if Top Gear did a peice on it.
onista 4 years ago
looks good, sounds good,will it be shelved till the last barrel of oil is used??
valvetrom 5 years ago
If I'd win millions in a lottery. I'd buy a tesla radster and a Wrightspeed/ariel atom car and bombard the crap out of the Ford, GM, and other gas guzzler dealerships with electric car propaganda!!
rault49 5 years ago
Cutting-edge EV batteries from China - example:
http://www.everspring.net/product-battery.htm
These batteries are better, and cheaper than the ones in those $100,000+ sportscars. They are as cheap as lead-acid batteries, and they hold up for 1100 charges.
http://www.milesautomotive.com/products_xs200.html
It's a Chinese electric car, which will be imported into the USA next year. The driving range is almost as good as those sports cars above. But it only costs $28500.
sts3234 5 years ago
The Chinese can get their batteries down in price without having automotive volume due to cheap labor.
Produced in sufficient volume for 20,000+ cars per year, those expensive batteries used in the Tesla Roadster and other expensive cars would be around $250/kWh according to AC Propulsion. Currently around $750/kWh due to low volume relative to what a car would use.
Be wary of Chinese batteries. Initial run of Thundersky batteries were crap, although they have apparently gotten much better.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
its not even fast, so it fails.
JZX100Chaser 5 years ago
Incredible... just plain Incredible. I cant afford it though. Oh well, bank robberies are an option I guess...
ilikestuff712 5 years ago
Tesla plans a less expensive electric sedan about 2 years down the road. I'm sure, quicker, if OPEC gets nastier. If you own a Prius, calcars.org gives you a links to some companis that will switch-out the NiMH batteries to Lithium-ion batteries, giving you more commute range on battery alone before the hybrid gas/electric kicks in. Essentially, if your commute is 50m or less, the gas engine never needs to kick in, giving you a 50m commute at 1c per mile.
robotnik77 5 years ago
A $50k luxury sedan that Tesla is planning probably won't do it for the masses.
We need electrics now, the oil crisis is now and getting exponentially worse. We just don't have 10-15 years for Tesla to raise the capital needed so a mass produced $20k electric sedan can be made.
Thank the auto industry, oil industry, and our own government for putting us in this mess. Their solution to getting us out? More oil wars and a loss of our civil liberties, to maximize profit and taxes no less.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
Actually, Tesla has some deep-pockets backers from Paypal, Google & Ebay. They only used 25 mil of the 65 mil offered to get off the ground. Lotus is a believer. They're producing it.
robotnik77 5 years ago
Do you realize how expensive it is to mass produce a car in tens of thousands of units a year, and get it sufficiently crash tested to pass regulations?
It's not on the order of $65 million, more like $200+ million. That $25 million they used sounds about right for a low volume car. If they sell 1,000 a year at $80k each, they might raise the funds in 2 years, which would be on target with their goals of a more affordable car in that time ~$50k. But I assume little/no setbacks; not realistic.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
That's probably why they use the Lotus Elise architecture
that's already in place. Just switching out power plants.
robotnik77 5 years ago
It's more than merely swithing out powerplants. The body of the car itself was changed and the chassis architecture had to be modified so it could accomodate the differing powerplant. It uses a transmission more suited to the powwerband of an electric motor as well. The car probably shares less than half the components of the Elise it is based on.
While cheaper than building from the ground up, this is still a costly process and requires its own set of rigorous testing.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
Lots of money altogether. But the point right now is support these innovators if you are able. Before long
God willing they will be cheap enough for everyone.
gregoryw1234 5 years ago
I wish it were in my price range. sigh.
presidentvictor 5 years ago
Yeah. Tesla doesn't have the capital to yet mass produce a car. So when you're only makling a few hundred of them, price will be very high. This applies to gas cars as well as electric cars.
The major automakers have mass production capability, but refuse to make highway capable electric cars.
Since the late 90s, we had technology for 200+ mile range family sedans that do 0-60 in 8 seconds and cost $20k. Mass production is eneded to bring costs down.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
I want to invest in this company.
EmoneyMaker28 5 years ago
Wait a minute, I thought the electric car had been killed - according to some goof-ball movie. Now it's back? Ohhh, I'm sooo confused! But seriously, the old electrics failed for one reason - they sucked. They were ugly and had no range. Otoh, this car is beautiful. And if the range is all it's said to be, they just might have a winner on their hands. I hope it's a sucess!
zeroXcrossing 5 years ago
NiMH EV1 in 1998 did 140-160 miles per charge(mpc), 225 driven gently at a Tour De Sol. Late 90s Solectria Force NiMH did 180-200 mpc, was normal-bodied Geo Metro sedan. Solectria Sunrise did over 300 mpc on NiMH batteries, did a 373 mile highway range run. The 90s is when EV technology became viable. "Who Killed the Electric Car" tries to explain why we can't buy one yet, given that technology has been there for a decade, demand was present, and cost isn't an issue with high production volume.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
Um... have you seen that movie? They actually have the first appearance of this car...
sarsattacks 5 years ago
No, I only saw the trailer. I really hope this car is a success, but considering the availability of electricity in certain parts of the country - especially in summer, I'm not sure electrics are the answer. Unless more nuclear comes online.
zeroXcrossing 5 years ago
Most charging will be done during off peak hours anyway. Off peak capacity is enough for tens of millions of EVs in this country with our current generating capacity.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
You are right on the money. the only one problem still is the batttery costs and life. V2G (vehicle to grid electric or plug in Hybrid has to be the best way to go right now. Gm helped innovate this in the first place give credit where credit is due.
gregoryw1234 5 years ago
A plug-in hybrid is a lot more complicated technically and would always need to lug around the internal combustion engine, so it would be more expensive and wouldn't have the same range as a pure electric.
notsukutsu 5 years ago
As though an ALL electric car with a 250mi range and 0-60 in 3.8 sec acceleration for the price of a present day high end gas guzzling sports car is not a ground-breaking news worthy event. It's positively earth shattering and deserves the same media consideration given to the unveilings of the newest models of hummer or mustang...both of which show up on the Today Show or Nightly News days after their unveiling. Please YouTube...feature this video.
Adreamer323 5 years ago
Please YouTube features this video. The mainstream media has, quite curiously, ignored every phase of this important landmark. From the development of the car, to the unprecedented startup of a car company by techno giant founders of eBay, PayPal, and Google, AND the recent unveiling...there has yet to be a single word mentioned in the mainstream.
Adreamer323 5 years ago
don't know but me and my wife will be more than likely buying one. it can only help make this point clearer: "we dont want to be oil dependant thank you" : )
fdb 5 years ago
Awesome. Now the only question is... how do we stop oil companies from:
1. Buying out this company
2. Getting the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to outlaw these vehicles
3. Blowing up their factory
mjk555 5 years ago
LOL... blowing up the factory.
Stop them from that or using Gasoline to burn in down...wait, would they pay 3.19 per gallon?
ilikestuff712 5 years ago
fuck Shell BP and Exxon they fucked us for the last 10 years. they are the real terrorists.
nurbsenvi 5 years ago
stop the crap use the free market to dominate gas cars if you and all your buddies would only buy and support electric cars. IC cars will become obsolete
gregoryw1234 5 years ago
Me too.
lvgyds 5 years ago
I want one.
runnerthemoose 5 years ago