Islamic Festival 2/4 الحبيب علي الجفري Habib Ali Jifri

[shafichy]

قل من حرم زينة الله التي أخرج لعباده والطيبات من الرزق

[shafichy]

أحبك في الله يا حبيب علي! كثّر الله من أمثالك وهدى بك أمثالي.

[CreatoroftheFlower]

assalamu'alaikum

Pls can you tell me how to translate a video from arabic to english as i do not speak arabic ....

jazakAllah

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

@CreatoroftheFlower

It is difficult, takes knowledge, patience and time.

In fact we have multitudes of Habib Ali's videos in Arabic, that we would love to translate to English, but it takes time and knowledge of both languages...

We pray allah to assist us.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

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[enamahm]

i wana learn Arabic n talk just like This Guy!!!!

Sooooo nice.....

[trustworthyno1]

sammymooo

If you believe in Creator , then dont you think that surely Creator must have sent some guidance to mankind.

[trustworthyno1]

sammymooo

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[the1nonlymeee]

I will now stop responding to your comments. Because Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) did say to his people not to get into an argument with a person who has no knowledge of what they're talking about. Just go do your research and stop using quotes in a negative way.

[the1nonlymeee]

In order to create an atmosphere of joy and happiness, singing is recommended on festive occasions such as the days of 'Eid, weddings and wedding feasts, births, 'aqiqa and on the return of a traveler.

'Aishah narrated that when a woman was married to an Ansari man, the Prophet(pbuh) said, " 'Aishah, did they have any entertainment? The Ansarare fond of entertainment.'' (Reported by al-Bukhari.) i hope that answers your question.

[the1nonlymeee]

Music is Haram in Islam. It's also a sin in Christianity and other religeons. But to listen to it doesn't mean a person is going to end up in Hell no matter what.

Please do me a favour and stop commenting, you're only making yourself look more and more of an idiot.

[afixus]

Assalmu'alaikum brother.

I am a 12 year old kid and i need more info in my religion,Islam.Why is it haram?I still dont get it.

[the1nonlymeee]

WalaikumAssalam Afixus

Most of the music in Islam is Haraam, because most musicians are the followers of Satan. They have satanic verses hidden in their songs etc.

Among the entertainments which may comfort the soul, please the heart, and refresh the ear is singing. Islam permits singing under the condition that it not be in any way obscene or harmful to Islamic morals. There is no harm in its being accompanied by music which is not exciting.

[the1nonlymeee]

What religeon do you follow btw?

[the1nonlymeee]

I would if you didn't sound so ignorant and sarcastic.

[the1nonlymeee]

Firstly, prophet Mohammad (pbuh) would never make friends with an uneducated wreck like you...on secound thoughts he would, he was a very generous man.

And if you did chose to listen to a story about him marrying a 9 year old girl you should have at least had the common courtesy to listen to all of it, because there is more to it then you'd think.

[the1nonlymeee]

What?! i can't be a pedophile at 15.

Whoever you're representing, you're not doing a very good job with the lack of knowledge are you

[Rundogz]

What's up 'theoneonly', cant you cope with the idea that MJ is burning in Hell because he converted and sang.

No-one made him choose that path, he should have stayed an infidel if he wanted to sing, like you, singing along to his music, damned already to burn in everlasting Hellfire... LOL

[the1nonlymeee]

How the hell did MJ come into this?

He was a Freemason who finally got some sence and converted to Islam, Just because he sang does not mean all his other good deeds will be ignored by God.

And just for the record, i do not want to sing.

[Islam4Dummiez]

i saw on Yusuf Islam's website that he denied ever having met MJ. If he converted to Islam, it was not what the Sun reported.

[the1nonlymeee]

There you go Mr cleverclogs. I've done my research found the answers to your stupid questions and well what do you know, i finally feel like an expert in this stuff. thanks alot.

[the1nonlymeee]

'The sincere Muslim who is following the Quran will not find in the Quran ANY PROHIBITION whatsoever OF MUSIC OR SINGING. God is very specific and His commands are very clear regarding any prohibition given in the Quran. God, the Most Merciful, NEVER prohibited music or singing in the Quran. Any prohibition of music or singing that is talked about among some Muslims has no basis in the Quran. These prohibitions are innovations made up by some of the scholars and their followers ...'

[trustworthyno1]

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[the1nonlymeee]

Prestonian = desperate peice of scum.

Prestonian = Needs his head bashing against a wall

Prestonian = Should die and do us all a favour.

[trustworthyno1]

Just watch other videos of muhaddithDotOrg to get an answer to each of your charges.

[the1nonlymeee]

The Qu'ran doesn't.

You said it yourself, the Hadith does. There is a difference between the two.

[Rundogz]

That's like betting your soul on a roulette wheel, as just because it is from the Hadith does not mean that it is not the word of God. Certainly many think it is and why would any supposed muslim have the audacity to challenge those who reported the words of their Prophet.

The choice is music or burning in eternal Hellfire and they chose music....LOL

[the1nonlymeee]

No it isn't. Hadith is the word of the prophet, the Qu'ran has the words from God. I'm not an expert but i'm not stupid either.

[the1nonlymeee]

You only listen to things you want to listen to. Maybe if you carried on listening to the hadith you'll hear something like...repenting your sins...sins being forgiven...i don't know i'm not an expert in this stuff.

[Rundogz]

Funny thing is that according to the Quran ANY Muslim who has ever listened to any music whether sung or played and enjoyed it, they are damned to hell and will be destroyed by Allah in the night, consigned to spend their times as pigs and donkeys until Judgement day.

So that's just about every muslim going off to hell them, although they do like to kid themselves that they aren't.

[the1nonlymeee]

Where'd you hear that?

Need to do more research mate...and that doesn't mean listening to stuff your friends say or the first thing you read on the internet.

[XTJustine]

Hahaha i've come across some pretty ridiculous things in my life, but this one Rundogz has to be the most ridiculous. Well done, you're officially the biggest shit-talking plonker on the planet.

[AgentOrange2012]

muslims are evil, and pray to pagan gods, and practice black magic

[trustworthyno1]

Who gave you that idea about muslims?

[TheFreemanuk]

Strictly come bombing.

[oOZESTOo]

allright then

[Crapulency]

Lost in language

[IslamicStateOfMind]

That is not Islam............like i said remove your blindfold and learn m8.

[Islam4Dummiez]

babmerChan

you are an ignorant lier.

- You are a lier because noone on earth would believe that you "went" to some Muslim country and "women were being stoned...etc" as you passed by.

- You are ignorant because you would even make such a ridiculous claim and expect people to believe you "ETC"

[BabmerChan]

Its spelled 'liar'

And yes - i did visit those countries, and yes, if you want proof that those events occur then i suggest you do some research online.

[Islam4Dummiez]

BabmerChan

There are rare cases of people being abused outside of Islamic law, just as people are raped and killed over sex in non Islamic countries.

I have lived and visited "those countries" all my life, so stop being a fool

[chissiez1]

Islam4Dummiez

When I worked in Jeddah some of the guys on the compound

would go the old city after midday prayers

where there were stonings sometime.

I never went - the idea of it made me sick to my stomach.

.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

chissiez1

I got more than "sick in my stomach" when a co-student (CHRISTIAN from Lebanon) was hit in the face in a bar with a broken beer bottle (that probably disfigured him) because he was dancing with the wife of the attacker.

Later, this co-student committed suicide.

This is a person I KNEW; not "somebody" that "could" have died:

Governents execute people unjustly IN ALL CONTRIES.

In a country where stoning for adultery is POSSIBLE (yet strictly regulated) such tragedies will not happen

[BabmerChan]

Go reign some oppression on your women you bunch of islamic FUCKS.

[IslamicStateOfMind]

There is no opression in Islam neither to men nor to woman...you need to learn man. You are forever welcome if you wish to do so.

[IslamicStateOfMind]

you should LISTEN CAREFULLY to what he says, dont try to draw conclusions based on what you think you know about him.....saw plenty of vid's on youtube with fake titles about him and ppl actually putting words intto his mouth!!!!LISTEN CAREFULLY.

[yazdegred]

wow

take it easy take it easy

its only a Q .

and indeed yes i googeld him and here is what i found

he invinted a new way called gafari mazhab .. and i saw a clip for him on youtube attacking muslim's and hes mercey with non muslim's .

im not the one whos going to judg him ..

ITS allah who wil judg us all

but for me . i dont liek him at allllllllllllllllll

thanks

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

yazdegred

The words you wrote are a lie.

Liying is one of the worst sins, you need to correct it, brother.

I met Al Jifri, he is one of the best Sunni scholars, and the most eminent Sunni scholars praise him in an unusual manner. The Iranian official news agency published a false piece of info that he became Shi'a, to which I heard the answer of Jifri over TV: He said this was false, and that it makes such a news agency lose credibility (I am paraphrasing him).

[yazdegred]

well thank's

i don't hope he is a sunna or shea

i hope he's a good muslim .

that's all

and thanks for acusing me by im alier . witch im not & im not going to talk about it cos theres a day of judgment and we will see anyway

thanks brother

[MuhaddithProject]

yazdegred - 1

U wrote: ... and thanks for accusing me im a liar...

The Prophet PBUH ordered us to witness on something clear as the sun, so let us review what U wrote & what we wrote, & see who is sticking to the truth, clear as the sun:

1- U wrote: "he made the music is hlal".

This is not true. Bring his specific words. Let us proceed the Islamic way, where each is responsible for every word he says, and must back it up with testimony.

[MuhaddithProject]

yazdegred - 2

2- You wrote: "i googeld him and here is what i found... he invinted a new way called gafari mazhab."

This is against the Prophet's command PBUH: "It is sufficient lying for a person to speak about all that he heard".

You are not allowed to pick something "from google" against any Muslim (especially inventing a Jafari mazhahb), and go speak about it.

[MuhaddithProject]

yazdegred - 3

AND WHAT HAPPENED TO STICKING TO THE QURAN:

"And do not follow that of which you have no knowledge, surely hearing, eyesight and the heart, man is responsible for all of that"?

When somebody's AFFILIATIONS make him violate here and there (hadeeth and Quran), it is time for him to know that his affiliations are influenced by OTHER than Allah, otherwise these infractions would have jumped to his eyes before he even gets near them.

[MuhaddithProject]

yazdegred - 4

3- U wrote: "and i saw a clip for him on youtube attacking muslim's...":

a- NOT TRUE:

U will find that he was "DEFENDING" against ATTACKS CONCERNING HIS BELIEF. I demand U to cite how he "attacked", otherwise, ask Allah to forgive you for this untruth of twisting "defend" to "attack" (it is simple)

b- How can U accept yourself to attack him,

& others to ATTACK his belief (without objecting),

yet U criticize him for DEFENDING his belief?

This is INJUSTICE & U R responsible for it.

[SultanMehmed]

Idk where that person got his info from, but Ja'fari Madhhab is named after Imam Ja'far as Siddiq, teacher of Imam Abu Hanifah.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

SultanMehmed

Whatever "Jafari" may mean, Habib Ali Jifri follows the Shafi'i Madhhab (with DEDICATED love)...

The UN-ISLAMIC SLANDER (about establishing a Jafari mazhab) was just trying to put down the level of Habib Ali.

Islamic rules order us to verify our references, but we are near the end times, where good is considered bad, and bad is considered good.

[SultanMehmed]

Like I said, Ja'fari is a madhhab started by Ja'far as Siddiq... hes more known by the shia, cuz hes one of their "imams". But his madhhab was pure, shia perverted it.

In any case, Habeeb ali jifri has nothing to do with ja'fari madhhab, i was just refuting the other person here.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

SultanMehmed

Jazakumullahu khairan.

It is beneficial (from both of us) to clarify all issues of the angle.

So many people miss the GOOD hadeeth (hasan) where the Prophet PBUH said: The person who listens and recounts only THE WORST, is like the person who came to the shepherd and said:

Give me a sheep to slaughter.

The shepherd told him:

Take THE BEST sheep you like.

So he went and dragged the shepherd's DOG by its ear !

We are offered food, & instead, some people take the dog...

[SultanMehmed]

Jazak Allahu khair wa barakallahu feek akhi.

Thanks for the reminder. You're right.

wasalaamu alaikum wr

[Abdulrahman101]

Jifri is a person to be avoided

[MuhaddithProject]

Abdulrahman101

U wrote: "Jifri is a person to be avoided"

We MIXED with him, & became more mindful of the Sunnah & more conscious of Allah insha'allaah, so did numerous people we know.

Sorry to be blunt:

A group of Muslims do avoid him,

but this is the SMALLEST MINORITY among Muslims (we're ready to compare numbers, from Europe, to humongous Asia, to Africa)

and they have THE BIGGEST STAKE TO LOSE.

Don't you see how Shaitan enjoys people coming to disrupt efforts of Da'wah like this?

[yazdegred]

isnt he a shea ?

well anyway that was not good at alll

thanks for posting

[Islam4Dummiez]

yazdegred,

Habeeb Ali is 100% pure Sunni, and he respects all 4 Mathahib.

[yazdegred]

well brother sunna or shea

i really didn't like what he said .

he made the music is hlal .

and this is not right .

thanks for thereplay

[MuhaddithProject]

yazdegred

U started by asking if he is a shi'a.

I would not like to be in your position: He's a great 100% Sunni scholar, descendant of the Prophet PBUH, & what does he get for being a descendant? Questions like "is he a shi'a"? I do not like to face his grandfather Salla Llahu Alaihi Wasallam with words like that.

As for Music, he did not talk about it, he talked about ART, & that some people put separation between art & Islam. His words on the subject are the deepest & with the most insight.

[MuhaddithProject]

yazdegred-2

To be precise:

1- He started, reciting POETRY (not music)

2- Then he asked: "TARIBTUM" Did U enjoy?

3- Then he emphasized with more poetry, stressing that TARAB was due to praise of our beloved Prophet.

4- Then he spoke beautifully how art was coupled with Islam since its beginning, & then a drift happened where extremely strict scholars prevented art & beauty, & non-religious people SOILED art.

This is extremely deep, understandable & APPRECIATED by innocent seekers for the TRUTH.

[BeMyBro]

he is sufi and doesnt follow the ijma of the ummah

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro

1- Shaikh Tariq Sweydan said about him: This is the correct type of Sufi.

2- He follows the Ijma' for sure.

3- We are brothers in something that unites us, explaining the beauty of Islam, and clearing misconceptions about it. Let this be what unites us, and drop this thing and stay brothers.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro-2

We also enjoyed quoting your response to this TXHalabi person (we will re-upload that vid). In this medium we must concentrate on what unite us, and there's a lot of it, and if we differ (or if we find you differ in your videos) then it is more beneficial for the main goal not to waste our energies trying to rediscuss what hundreds of scholars have already discussed, this will be another issue. We will definitely upload many more from Habib Ali, you'll be welcome to DISCUSS HIS WORDS.

[BeMyBro]

O Allah I have spoken. O Allah be my witness.

I did my part.

aljafri is a good speaker and a good dawa man. if he would avoid injecting his speeches with his corrupt belief i would not have a problem with him thats all.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro

We say the same to you, brother: O Allah, have I relayed?

U have attacked a Muslim, you've been asked to bring your proof, but U did not. U just "state" unfounded accusations. So U are just IMITATING others, with no proof; this makes one person into a BLIND imitator, sorry.

I pray Allah for you, but a grave fault deserves a grave answer.

I repeat seriously: Bring proof from Al Jifri's words, that he believes in grave worship, & unity of existence, let us not be blind imitators.

[BeMyBro]

1-Aljafri and Tariq swaidan are not scholars

they are dawa men. both have issues with the scholar community due to their beliefs and what they spread.

2- No they dont but you disagree ofcourse

3- I didnt say you are a kafir or anything so we get disunited! im just doing my job as a muslim.

Who ever sees Munkar let him change it with his hand if he couldn't with his tongue if he couldn't then in his heart.

and having a different opinion doesn't ruin mutual love.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro

Jifri & Swaidan R not scholars"

NO, they're among the most influential scholars.

"both have issues with the scholar community..."

NO:

1- I heard NO scholar criticize Swedan.

R your sources specialized against scholars?

2- Following scholar communities hail Jifri as the most influential scholars of our age: Syrian, Egyptian, Lebanese, Jordanian. I stop not for lack, but bcz I am not eyewitness of other communities, although I saw videos of welcome to Jifri worldwide UNLIKE OTHER SCHOLARS.

[Islam4Dummiez]

so it seems that only a small minority of Muslims are the ones making false accusations against Habeeb Ali.

[BeMyBro]

type tariq swedan in youtube

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

I typed tariq swedan in YouTube.

Sorry, I do not have whatever faculty you have: I saw a list of videos, one is a question about Music, the others have obscure titles & my time is valuable.

Anyway I follow a golden rule that a "minority" of Muslims don't care about: The "meat" of Muslims (especially scholars) is forbidden for me (i.e. I do not back-bite them, therefore do not EAT THEIR MEAT), & I do not keep scrutinizing, with the goal of finding faults in Muslims.

[lawza3]

Ok jazakallah :)

[BeMyBro]

unfortunately this person is deviant and worships graves

[lawza3]

Isn't that fatiha bid'a??

[MuhaddithProject]

lawza3

We read fatiha in prayers, & after it we supplicate (in rukoo, sujood, & at prayer's end), so why should reading fatiha be a bid'ah? IT IS ZHIKR OF ALLAH; shaitan wants to prevent us from zhikr.

We are recommended to read Fatiha any time, & to supplicate Allah at any time, it is a bid'ah to try to prevent me from doing them the way I chose (unless I contradict a SPECIFIC Islamic rule, which is not the case).

So if I want to recite fatiha whenever I chose, bid'ah is to try to prevent me.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro-1

We met him, you will be sorry in the hereafter in front of Allah for the unfounded accusation that he worships graves.

HAVE YOU SEEN HIM DO THAT?

WHAT RELIGION ALLOWS YOU TO SAY SUCH WORDS?

I recommend to stop reading whatever sources that made you subconsciously think you are allowed in Islam to throw such accusations lightly.

Tens of Millions of Muslims benefit from him across the Islamic world, & Islam's greatest scholars praise him like they praised no other scholar.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro-1

Watch out for Jifri. We recommend to seek his words, examine them without external parasitic static, then judge for yourself.

We have listened to almost a hundred of his lectures:

THERE IS NO MUSLIM SCHOLAR THAT CAN DISPLAY THE BEAUTY OF ISLAM LIKE HIM.

Have you heard his lectures about husband/wife relationships?

About employee duties?

About loving Allah and his Prophet?

This is what we spend our extra time doing, while others spend it reading AGAINST scholars.

[BeMyBro]

I have listened to many of his lectures and have attended some of them in the UAE.

He has charisma and no doubte he has style and surely he benefits alot of muslims.

but certainly he is deviant

his lectures are about love and more love and tears but his aqeeda is corrupt.

basically poison in the honey.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro-1

Attending lectures doesn't make an authority; we attended probably more.

Beware of unfounded words against ANY scholar, especially sons of Prophet PBUH: You insist attacking his aqidah & we confirm having scritinized it (as well as Sh Bin Biyyah, Sh Said Ramadan Bouti, Islam's greatest pillars, etc) & we found only the closest talk & feel as possible to the Prophet PBUH; that's the REASON for his charisma, may Allah preserve this blood line till the coming of Imam Mahdi FROM THAT LINE.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro-2

Does true Islamic learning make it easier for scholars to say "but certainly he is deviant"?

The whole world has seen him in cordial or very friendly relationships with pillars of Islam like Amr Khalid, Tariq Sweydan, Sh Said Ramadan Al Bouti, Sh Bin Biyyah, ELITE SCHOLARS from Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, etc.

Now is somebody going to come & say these are all deviant, and "other" scholars ALONE represent Islam? If this is the case, we totally refuse such talk, as the Prophet PBUH taught us.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro-3

U testify, walhamdulillaah about positive effect of his words, & how they move hearts (of MILLIONS) toward Allah. Then U write that his aqidah is corrupted! Did U open his heart?

I've listened (TRYING TO BENEFIT, & not with a sick heart, searching for defects) to probably 100s of lectures, & met him personally for hours. I CAME OUT MORE MINDFUL OF ALLAH, MORE CAREFUL FOR THE SUNNAH.

But reading pamphlets AGAINST him, & reading their authors, PRODUCES THE OPPOSITE: HARDENS ONE'S HEART.

[Islam4Dummiez]

BeMyBro

I have also met Habeeb Ali on numerous occassions, in public and in private, and I have seen no evidence whatsoever of the accusations against him.

Quite the contrary, his Aqeedah has made thousands of us as better Muslims.

[MuhaddithProject]

Islam4Dummies

U wrote: made thousands of us as better Muslims.

I would not fail the oath, if I testify under oath that MILLIONS became better Muslims by listening to Habib Ali (WITH GOOD INTENTION).

[BeMyBro]

you mean his dawa not aqeeda

his aqeeda then includes grave worship asking others than Allah for blessings and help jumping in circles is ofcourse a trade mark of this type of sufisim.

Also having no concern for authentic hadith is one of his issues where he just spits out down right fake hadiths which is not the methodology of ahl alsunnah.

He also believes in "The unity of existence" and that Allah can be inside anyone and anything.

If you agree with this then you carry the same aqeeda.

[IslamicStateOfMind]

You are misinformed about the top two sentences.....but the last im not sure i must do further research before commenting on.

[BeMyBro]

I'm not misinformed.

I take claims very seriously and I'm very serious of what I said.

He (Aljafri) is open about it.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro

You wrote: He is open about it.

Great, so here is your chance to quote HIM, (and not people LYING against him).

So give us references FROM HIM about his grave worship

about unity of existence

and your other claims.

Other wise, we pray allah to guide you to see that you are in grave danger of BUHTAAN

بهتان

والعياذ بالله

[Islam4Dummiez]

BeMyBro

It makes me sad that you allow yourself to put words in Habeeb Ali's mouth such as "grave worship", "unity of existence", and the rest.

It is a shame that you are affected so much by the false attacks against him.

[BeMyBro]

im sorry akhi you seem to not know the aqeeda of the ashaera. These are not false attacks. and if you speak arabic then you can just youtube him and hear him talk with the bone of his tongue.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro

Asha'irah are one of the MAIN groups of Sunnah wal Jama'ah.

If you deny them, your group becomes one of the smallest minorities of Islam.

All shaikhs of Al Az-har were Ash'aris (I may be off by ONE, or not off at all).

Also, if we were to analyze your other attacks, this continue restricting your group smaller and smaller. Please study Islam outside your country, start from Europe (Balkans, Turkey) to Afganistan, India, Indonesia, etc. It will make your restricted group a tiny minority.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro-a

1-Grave worship:

Totally unfounded. Bring your proof from HIS words, not from fabrications:

I listened to a CD against Habib ali:

IT IS A SHAME HOW ANY MUSLIM ALLOWS HIMSELF TO CUT & PASTE in order to make it seem as if Habib Ali said something (while actually he did not).

SUCH DISFIGURATIONS BELONG TO ENEMIES OF ISLAM, WHAT A SHAME.

So, since there is no foundation, "grave worship" is but an INSULT, a very "worn out' insult by the way, we hear it a lot, do not deny it,

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro-b

& we Muslims R not allowed to insult each others like that (insulting: "grave worship" without solid proof).

So here, it is not Jifri who is 100% violating Islam? Which leaves out ... ...???.

2- I ask my father and mother & others for blessings, you ask your doctor stuff too...

So what does that make of us?

3- Jumping in circles?

YOU SAW JIFRI JUMP IN CIRCLES?

Do you accept such stuff easily? Is that your style?

What about Habashah dancing in front of the Prophet PBUH? Bad Sufis?

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro-c

4- Having concern (for authentic hadeeth) is an issue of the heart, so did U open his heart?

Envious people keep seeking faults until they catch him cite a weak hadith, but it has never been a crime to cite a weak hadeeth, so is there a new bid'ah now to make it a crime? & please tell me, have you never cited a weak hadeeth that helped you explain something? It's surely better than yr opinion & mine.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro-d

5- Unity of existence: Bring your proof from his

words; until you bring proof, the source that you rely upon is liar,

زورا وبهتانا

totally unislamic.

[IslamicStateOfMind]

Heard that time and time again.

Heard plenty of his lectures both live and on tape. No evidence to your claim to your claim bro. even those that argue with me, havent one valid piece of evidence to support their claim. If you have some support to your claim plz present them, otherwise i shall continue to listen to him, smiply bcuz i dont pass judgement on hearsay. If the ppl of Madina did so when they first came to Makka before the rise of Islam, Islam wouldnt of been where it is today.

[BeMyBro]

He is a sufi and i assume you are a sufi two if you know him that much and find nothing wrong with his beliefs

[IslamicStateOfMind]

no brotha i am not a sufi....but it is these associations that actually cause the segregation of the ummah.....if you read the books of Ibn Taymiah he speaks highly of sufist. Now i do agree that alot of sufist have deviated from the right path and have make bida'a...but that is not actual sufism, and that doesnt give you or me a right to judge someone without further research. And for your informationsufist are also Ahal Alsunnah wa al jamma- the real ones are.

[BeMyBro]

you say youre not a sufi then you say sufis are the real ahl alsuna waljama

why arent you a sufi then

also sufism that ibn taymia praised isnt the the sufism where people gather around graves asking the dead for blessings and healing nor isnt the suffism of standing in circles jumping in your place.

Another term for sufi is zahid and thats the kind of sufi that ibn taymia praised.

The type that is a good muslim and is selfless. the kind that bought the life after and sold this one.

[MuhaddithProject]

BeMyBro

So you saw Jifri gather around graves & jump...

U shouldn't take it lightly to attack Muslim scholars. I learned it several DECADES ago, in my first year of learning Islam. I pray Allah for you, sincerely inshallah. Slow down, don't imitate & analyze: Is your method safe for U?

R U certain all your attacks are founded?

That all your fatwas are 100% correct?

Whereby all your personal attacks against him are legitimate?

If you are mistaken in one of them, what will U do?

[IslamicStateOfMind]

BeMyBro

I said sufism is ALSO ahl alsunnah wa aljamma. plz read carefully.

And yes I agree with the second part, thats not the sufism im talking about.

You should hear him speak about the tabaruk and twassol brother. As i said you are misinformed.

[MuhaddithDotOrg]

IslamicStateOfMind

Jazakumullahu khairan for saying: You should hear him speak about the tabaruk and twassol brother.

But there is a minority of Muslims who DO NOT LIKE to hear from the person attacked, they prefer to just hear the attack & stop there.

That's so unislamic, it's sad to notice it's the same style as missionaries attacking Islam, and & mongers like Wilders, whom we are responding to, indeed!!! These too do not care what Islam says, they only care to follow attacks against it.

[DarkRam1]

nice video 1st comment

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