Of his 3 X losses this was the only 1 that I thought was legt - ie he had a bad night and he did'nt have the answers fo Silva. I thought the Werdum he either JUST got caught - or Russian mafia involved (it was about 11/1 odds) but the more I watch this - the more I feel Silva should'vebn warned then DQ'd. Silva was exhausted at the end of this round he had dominany position and ent for kneebar - yet Fedor had him in footlock atthe end of Round Dan Hendo was halk KO'd himself b4 freak punch happe
@thesashworth that's right finaly someone to understand ,that with werdum that you said is true ,but samething with silva ,51 percent for Fedor wining the tournament and Hedno ,that was most funny ,Fedor didn't even waned to hit him hard ,look the differences beatwen fight with Hendo and fight with Brett Rogers - that was force of Fedor but afterfight Fedor said somthing that cause ...this... Just watch the fight with Brett and watch what Fedor is saying about victory ... about who wins ...
The reason throat strikes/grabbing throat in this manner is disallowed cos can cause a collapsed trachea. Glad I found this video - you can see Sailva in the full mount looking to ref to see if he was gona stop it cos he grabbed his throat and I BELEIVE SILVA KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS ILLEGAL. FEDO SHOULD GO WITH THIS EVIDENCE AND CAIM FOR A NC/REMATCH
@thesashworth You are my man ,that's what I am trying to tell all this people,all this MMA fans ,but Fedor not gonna have rematch from silva,not even from werdum or hendo ,cause non of them was true defeat,you can see fedor is changed ,his trainings ,his face ,he looks like he is disappoint of life and like I said I know way ,but I can tell you ,not you not anyone,I am currently in Danmark and one of mu friends and sparring partners are one of fedor's sparring partners in early 2000-he told all
I see what your talking about with the holding of the throat inorder to control Fedor for the comming punches.....it does appear that he took advantage of the fact that the ref kept allowing it to continue !....weight was the only issue here and he used it to the max !
@ronnied828 Yes Silva had weight advantage ,but when he didn't use that throat holding he didn't punch fedor not even once ,like I said I'v tried this on training and it's very difficult to escape even with smaller partner than you ,but to have a 290 pounds on your trachea ,that's murder ,if silva do this to his sparring partners all of them will be dead believe me ,Fedor on the end of the round had more conditioning then silva ,Silva was so scared because of that you can see .
@wrestlingfan01 YES ,you cant rape choke in the rules is that is foul if you do grabbing trachea of your opponent ,so you cant rape choke without grabbing the trachea you can pressure him with your elbow or on the chin or all face and head ,but grabbing the trachea that's attempt of murder and that cant be leggal ,maybe in UFC is legal I dont know but if MMA let the organizations to come with that non sportical rules then MMA dont give a f**k for his fighters just for the fans to be attractiv .
@Vassago879 why was Silva better , because he was better in 2 round ,but in first round - he did nothing fedor win that round 10:7 (I watched a interview with one of the judges) the secound was 10:7 for Silva- the diffirents was the Fedor natural soft skin on face and that my friend dosen't mean that Silva was better or that he give's Fedor more punches then Fedor injuris happens and didn't have one for 10 years - Fedor will be back with win and confidence .
yeah yeah now..His fight with rogers was bad,with werdum was bad..and now silva destroyed him with gnp,accept reality..I was thinking the same thing with cro cop..:"he will come back and destroy them",but what happened..cro cop got KO.
@Vassago879 Cro cop... yeah ... Fedor,Mark Coleman team, even Mirko , that was the beginnings of this sport they made this sport popular ,attractive ,based on their philosophies and techniques this new fighters are fighting, Werdum and Silva ,they knew jiu jitsu but to fight in MMA must be complete fighter and the approach to the fight is different then the other combat disciplines ,Fedor didn't have someone to tell him how to fight in MMA someone with experience- these fighters have ones.
that is true,before they were 220-240 pounds average weight..now you have 280 pound guys..that's not the same,but also now we have great fighters..overeem,velasquez,jds,carwin,werdum,silva.
Antonio silva had 40 pounds more,he was more agresive,more hungry and thats reason why he won..fedor isnt at top anymore,he passed his prime and thats it.
ok why is it that everyone says fedor sucks as soon as he lost to a guy thats twice his weight that culd not submitt him and that could not knock him out??? lets face it Fedor is the best he has overcome more obstacles and fighters in mma than cain,lesnar,dos santos, noguiera, machida rampage and any other living fighter around and yet people hate him he is quiet humble and never talks shit like the rest of the fighters? so stop hating on him give respect
@scorpion90hr that's right ,many disrespect him and I dont now why ,he is so calm and good and never shits about the other fighter ,he is a good friend with every single fighter that fight against him,just the media show as the fighters like they hate each other . Just hear what Mark Coleman team think about Fedor ,they are true americans ,they respect him .
This is sad, if it were the other way around, you'd be saying "LOL RAPE-CHOKE look how awesome and dominant Fedor is!"
I bet you liked Wanderlei rape-choking Jardine didn't you? How about when he rape-choked Bisping against the cage before dropping him with a right? I bet you LOVED those. But when someone does it to a fighter you like, it's suddenly cheating. GTFO
@kauu1982@viktor3600 one can kill a person by doing this..i think Silva should be disqualified for a looong time. Won't miss his face on the screen, thattt' s for sure :D Reply :
That's the thing that I wanna tell to dis people who just think that they know something about MMA ,thanks men respect from me to you :D
@longfootbuddy yea because of that ,the thing that silva did take lots of energy of Fedor like I said I tried this with my sparring partners and normal fighter cant escape this grabbing you have to be Fedor to escape this.
@viktor3600 As soon as Fedor starts winning again everybody will claim they were always his fan. Just two losses and pple critique him. It just shows you how good he is. Bigfoot had to cheat to beat him and he weighed almost 290 pounds during the fight and Fedor's boxing trainer complained about it. That how is it possible someone weighed 265 pounds today and the next weigh almost 290.to be honest i too don't get that. is it even legal to do that? whats the weight limit there for then?
he´s not grabbing trachea, which is illegal. Hes grabbing entire neck which is legal. Brock Lesnar did it to Frank Mir, check it out.
Silvas hands are so big its useful for him (brock also) otherwise its very difficult for most fighters to do this as their hands dont encircle the neck. That is the only reason we dont see more choking in GnP fighting. Joe Rogan calls this the ¨rape choke
@etuar87 Wrong ,he was grabbing him on the chin not on the trachea like he did whit Fedor, this is very bad comparison my friend you need to watch this two fights again and see the differences ,the thing that silva did with Fedor has not been done in any fight in MMA ,it's not fer and cant be legal like some of you thing ,who things that it's legal just come to me and show me that I am wrong ,he will be Fedor , I will be Silva - if you survive 10 seconds I will delete this video :)
@etuar87 Ok i didn't understand and like I said who thinks that this what Silva did was right ,just to come in my club ,in Skopje ,where we train Sambo just to show him what happened on this fight and that it's almost impossible to escape from that position ,but with Mike he was grabbing him on chin - with Fedor on trachea and after fight he said that with Fedor he was grabbing him on chin witch is wrong .Anyway you can still come if you wanna test your skills ,we are pro and unique in Balkan
Although the MMA rules of the New Jersey State Athletic Commission prohibit "throat strikes of any kind," holding your opponent by his throat is completely legitimate. There have been some proposals in MMA to ban grabbing the trachea, but under the current rules, what Silva was doing is perfectly legal.
Although the MMA rules of the New Jersey State Athletic Commission prohibit "throat strikes of any kind," holding your opponent by his throat is completely legitimate. There have been some proposals in MMA to ban grabbing the trachea, but under the current rules, what Silva was doing is perfectly legal.
@shakur7 Although the MMA rules of the New Jersey State Athletic Commission prohibit "throat strikes of any kind," holding your opponent by his throat is completely legitimate. There have been some proposals in MMA to ban grabbing the trachea, but under the current rules, what Silva was doing is perfectly legal.
@emg83mtz I don't have them all in my computer and some of them are logical and it's not safe for me :D when I gonna complete all I will notice here in my profile .And can you send a link of this video to all your friends and on facebook on any commercial sites just because I think that everyone should know the truth .Thanks for support to everyone and if you all see someone who talk that silva is the best and he beat Fedor ,just give him this link .
@viktor3600 Although the MMA rules of the New Jersey State Athletic Commission prohibit "throat strikes of any kind," holding your opponent by his throat is completely legitimate. There have been some proposals in MMA to ban grabbing the trachea, but under the current rules, what Silva was doing is perfectly legal.
I'm not sure that its entirely against the rules, the Chute Box guys have done the 'rape choke' whilst throwing ground and pound for years. It was certainly allowed in pride, and although i can't cite any examples I'm sure i've seen it plenty in the UFC too. I think this could just be Strikeforce with their tweaks to the unified rules, like no elbow strikes to downed opponent, in which case you can't blame Big Dan for letting it slip.
tbh, this just seems like sour grapes from a fedor nuthugger
@googoogaju45 no no no in any MMA discipline it's not allowed grabbing the trachea you can read the rules at wikipedia or any official site of MMA , it wouldn't be fer I can win a fight like that even with pro fighter, I train sambo and I did the same thing silva did - to my trainer and he tap in mater of seconds ,even in UFC this is foul becouse the trachea has no muscles and can be fatal .
Reason why Fedor lost:
-physics (Antonio silva had too much weight)
-illegal moves by Silva
-and the referee was the worst of all time, BIG DAN FAGGLIOTA.
The odds were 100/1 against Fedor the whole night.
danceofeternity3824 1 week ago
Of his 3 X losses this was the only 1 that I thought was legt - ie he had a bad night and he did'nt have the answers fo Silva. I thought the Werdum he either JUST got caught - or Russian mafia involved (it was about 11/1 odds) but the more I watch this - the more I feel Silva should'vebn warned then DQ'd. Silva was exhausted at the end of this round he had dominany position and ent for kneebar - yet Fedor had him in footlock atthe end of Round Dan Hendo was halk KO'd himself b4 freak punch happe
thesashworth 3 months ago
@thesashworth that's right finaly someone to understand ,that with werdum that you said is true ,but samething with silva ,51 percent for Fedor wining the tournament and Hedno ,that was most funny ,Fedor didn't even waned to hit him hard ,look the differences beatwen fight with Hendo and fight with Brett Rogers - that was force of Fedor but afterfight Fedor said somthing that cause ...this... Just watch the fight with Brett and watch what Fedor is saying about victory ... about who wins ...
viktor3600 3 months ago
The reason throat strikes/grabbing throat in this manner is disallowed cos can cause a collapsed trachea. Glad I found this video - you can see Sailva in the full mount looking to ref to see if he was gona stop it cos he grabbed his throat and I BELEIVE SILVA KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS ILLEGAL. FEDO SHOULD GO WITH THIS EVIDENCE AND CAIM FOR A NC/REMATCH
thesashworth 3 months ago
@thesashworth You are my man ,that's what I am trying to tell all this people,all this MMA fans ,but Fedor not gonna have rematch from silva,not even from werdum or hendo ,cause non of them was true defeat,you can see fedor is changed ,his trainings ,his face ,he looks like he is disappoint of life and like I said I know way ,but I can tell you ,not you not anyone,I am currently in Danmark and one of mu friends and sparring partners are one of fedor's sparring partners in early 2000-he told all
viktor3600 3 months ago
I see what your talking about with the holding of the throat inorder to control Fedor for the comming punches.....it does appear that he took advantage of the fact that the ref kept allowing it to continue !....weight was the only issue here and he used it to the max !
ronnied828 7 months ago
@ronnied828 Yes Silva had weight advantage ,but when he didn't use that throat holding he didn't punch fedor not even once ,like I said I'v tried this on training and it's very difficult to escape even with smaller partner than you ,but to have a 290 pounds on your trachea ,that's murder ,if silva do this to his sparring partners all of them will be dead believe me ,Fedor on the end of the round had more conditioning then silva ,Silva was so scared because of that you can see .
viktor3600 7 months ago
Fedor Emelianenko 32 wins-5 mma titles / Cain Velasquez 9 wins-1 title
Alistair Overeem 34 wins-3 titles / Brock Lesnar 5 wins-1 title
Josh Barnett 26 wins 2 titles / Junior dos Santos 12 wins-0 titles
Andrei Arlovski 15 wins-2 titles / Frank Mir 14 wins-1 title
Antonio Silva 15 wins-3 titles / Shane Carwin 12 wins- interim titles don't count
Who is really the best HW?
viktor3600 9 months ago 4
i didnt believe it i thought it was a fedor nutthugger video but it really is in the rules that you cant rape choke lol
wrestlingfan01 9 months ago
@wrestlingfan01 YES ,you cant rape choke in the rules is that is foul if you do grabbing trachea of your opponent ,so you cant rape choke without grabbing the trachea you can pressure him with your elbow or on the chin or all face and head ,but grabbing the trachea that's attempt of murder and that cant be leggal ,maybe in UFC is legal I dont know but if MMA let the organizations to come with that non sportical rules then MMA dont give a f**k for his fighters just for the fans to be attractiv .
viktor3600 9 months ago
@kauu1982
you probably dont understand mma,just watch the fight..silva was better and he deserved to win.
Vassago879 10 months ago
@Vassago879 why was Silva better , because he was better in 2 round ,but in first round - he did nothing fedor win that round 10:7 (I watched a interview with one of the judges) the secound was 10:7 for Silva- the diffirents was the Fedor natural soft skin on face and that my friend dosen't mean that Silva was better or that he give's Fedor more punches then Fedor injuris happens and didn't have one for 10 years - Fedor will be back with win and confidence .
viktor3600 10 months ago
@viktor3600
yeah yeah now..His fight with rogers was bad,with werdum was bad..and now silva destroyed him with gnp,accept reality..I was thinking the same thing with cro cop..:"he will come back and destroy them",but what happened..cro cop got KO.
Vassago879 10 months ago
@Vassago879 Cro cop... yeah ... Fedor,Mark Coleman team, even Mirko , that was the beginnings of this sport they made this sport popular ,attractive ,based on their philosophies and techniques this new fighters are fighting, Werdum and Silva ,they knew jiu jitsu but to fight in MMA must be complete fighter and the approach to the fight is different then the other combat disciplines ,Fedor didn't have someone to tell him how to fight in MMA someone with experience- these fighters have ones.
viktor3600 9 months ago
@viktor3600
that is true,before they were 220-240 pounds average weight..now you have 280 pound guys..that's not the same,but also now we have great fighters..overeem,velasquez,jds,carwin,werdum,silva.
Vassago879 9 months ago
Antonio silva had 40 pounds more,he was more agresive,more hungry and thats reason why he won..fedor isnt at top anymore,he passed his prime and thats it.
Vassago879 10 months ago
for me fedor is still the greatest fighter of all times,FEDOR WILL BE BACK IAM SURE!!
ketoras 10 months ago
ok why is it that everyone says fedor sucks as soon as he lost to a guy thats twice his weight that culd not submitt him and that could not knock him out??? lets face it Fedor is the best he has overcome more obstacles and fighters in mma than cain,lesnar,dos santos, noguiera, machida rampage and any other living fighter around and yet people hate him he is quiet humble and never talks shit like the rest of the fighters? so stop hating on him give respect
scorpion90hr 10 months ago 7
@scorpion90hr that's right ,many disrespect him and I dont now why ,he is so calm and good and never shits about the other fighter ,he is a good friend with every single fighter that fight against him,just the media show as the fighters like they hate each other . Just hear what Mark Coleman team think about Fedor ,they are true americans ,they respect him .
viktor3600 10 months ago
This is sad, if it were the other way around, you'd be saying "LOL RAPE-CHOKE look how awesome and dominant Fedor is!"
I bet you liked Wanderlei rape-choking Jardine didn't you? How about when he rape-choked Bisping against the cage before dropping him with a right? I bet you LOVED those. But when someone does it to a fighter you like, it's suddenly cheating. GTFO
Towelietowel 10 months ago
@kauu1982 @viktor3600 one can kill a person by doing this..i think Silva should be disqualified for a looong time. Won't miss his face on the screen, thattt' s for sure :D Reply :
That's the thing that I wanna tell to dis people who just think that they know something about MMA ,thanks men respect from me to you :D
viktor3600 10 months ago
@kauu1982 Bravo :D
viktor3600 10 months ago
oh ye, no grabbing in mma...pffff fedor got a real assbeating, face it
longfootbuddy 10 months ago
@longfootbuddy yea because of that ,the thing that silva did take lots of energy of Fedor like I said I tried this with my sparring partners and normal fighter cant escape this grabbing you have to be Fedor to escape this.
viktor3600 10 months ago
@viktor3600 As soon as Fedor starts winning again everybody will claim they were always his fan. Just two losses and pple critique him. It just shows you how good he is. Bigfoot had to cheat to beat him and he weighed almost 290 pounds during the fight and Fedor's boxing trainer complained about it. That how is it possible someone weighed 265 pounds today and the next weigh almost 290.to be honest i too don't get that. is it even legal to do that? whats the weight limit there for then?
ms21k1986 10 months ago
@ms21k1986 No limits for heavyweight ,but that's cheating for sure
viktor3600 10 months ago
he´s not grabbing trachea, which is illegal. Hes grabbing entire neck which is legal. Brock Lesnar did it to Frank Mir, check it out.
Silvas hands are so big its useful for him (brock also) otherwise its very difficult for most fighters to do this as their hands dont encircle the neck. That is the only reason we dont see more choking in GnP fighting. Joe Rogan calls this the ¨rape choke
mikeynyuk 11 months ago
This is the truth! For me, the only loss of Fedor is by Fabricio Werdum!
PeceFromHeraklea 11 months ago
BIG foot did the same against mike kyle....
etuar87 11 months ago
@etuar87 Wrong ,he was grabbing him on the chin not on the trachea like he did whit Fedor, this is very bad comparison my friend you need to watch this two fights again and see the differences ,the thing that silva did with Fedor has not been done in any fight in MMA ,it's not fer and cant be legal like some of you thing ,who things that it's legal just come to me and show me that I am wrong ,he will be Fedor , I will be Silva - if you survive 10 seconds I will delete this video :)
viktor3600 11 months ago
@viktor3600
spokoino bratan...i totally agree with you, i just noticed that he did the same shit with mike kyle!!!!
so chill or i seriosly come to you...i guess you just get me wrong...
etuar87 11 months ago
@etuar87 Ok i didn't understand and like I said who thinks that this what Silva did was right ,just to come in my club ,in Skopje ,where we train Sambo just to show him what happened on this fight and that it's almost impossible to escape from that position ,but with Mike he was grabbing him on chin - with Fedor on trachea and after fight he said that with Fedor he was grabbing him on chin witch is wrong .Anyway you can still come if you wanna test your skills ,we are pro and unique in Balkan
viktor3600 11 months ago
Good news Fedor will keep fighting in strikeforce/M-1 like I said and that it's just another puzzle of the things that I wanna discover .
viktor3600 11 months ago
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Although the MMA rules of the New Jersey State Athletic Commission prohibit "throat strikes of any kind," holding your opponent by his throat is completely legitimate. There have been some proposals in MMA to ban grabbing the trachea, but under the current rules, what Silva was doing is perfectly legal.
ken198100 11 months ago
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Although the MMA rules of the New Jersey State Athletic Commission prohibit "throat strikes of any kind," holding your opponent by his throat is completely legitimate. There have been some proposals in MMA to ban grabbing the trachea, but under the current rules, what Silva was doing is perfectly legal.
ken198100 11 months ago
I agree,didnt notice this myself,this must be spread to everyone,i lost a lot of respect for Bigfoot and the judging was poor as well
Thomasgipsy 11 months ago 11
@Thomasgipsy that's right that's way I make this video it's not fer .
viktor3600 11 months ago
I didnt noticed until now. thx for making this vid.
shakur7 11 months ago
@shakur7 no problem just give the link to everyone just to know the truth :Dthanks for support .
viktor3600 11 months ago
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@shakur7 Although the MMA rules of the New Jersey State Athletic Commission prohibit "throat strikes of any kind," holding your opponent by his throat is completely legitimate. There have been some proposals in MMA to ban grabbing the trachea, but under the current rules, what Silva was doing is perfectly legal.
ken198100 11 months ago
can you send to my email the other evidences?
emg83mtz 11 months ago
@emg83mtz I don't have them all in my computer and some of them are logical and it's not safe for me :D when I gonna complete all I will notice here in my profile .And can you send a link of this video to all your friends and on facebook on any commercial sites just because I think that everyone should know the truth .Thanks for support to everyone and if you all see someone who talk that silva is the best and he beat Fedor ,just give him this link .
viktor3600 11 months ago
@viktor3600 Although the MMA rules of the New Jersey State Athletic Commission prohibit "throat strikes of any kind," holding your opponent by his throat is completely legitimate. There have been some proposals in MMA to ban grabbing the trachea, but under the current rules, what Silva was doing is perfectly legal.
ken198100 11 months ago
I'm not sure that its entirely against the rules, the Chute Box guys have done the 'rape choke' whilst throwing ground and pound for years. It was certainly allowed in pride, and although i can't cite any examples I'm sure i've seen it plenty in the UFC too. I think this could just be Strikeforce with their tweaks to the unified rules, like no elbow strikes to downed opponent, in which case you can't blame Big Dan for letting it slip.
tbh, this just seems like sour grapes from a fedor nuthugger
googoogaju45 11 months ago
@googoogaju45 no no no in any MMA discipline it's not allowed grabbing the trachea you can read the rules at wikipedia or any official site of MMA , it wouldn't be fer I can win a fight like that even with pro fighter, I train sambo and I did the same thing silva did - to my trainer and he tap in mater of seconds ,even in UFC this is foul becouse the trachea has no muscles and can be fatal .
viktor3600 11 months ago
oh shit yeah..well spotted...cheating bastard!!!!!
maulmask 11 months ago