There is a Divine calendar, but knowledge of this calendar destroyed, the civilization destroyed "Maya" by the crusades of church and another given to man, before he looked on his own. he accepted this calendar that is worthless, its called the Gregorian calendar and it was given to deceive man.
Father has seasons, but you don't know them if you did, you could easily become a prophet.
We are already into a new season, and great changes, beyond anything man has ever experienced in his recorded history will takes its place in Fathers order, a continuing process.
This process has come and gone many times, in 4.5 billion years and will continue, like clockwork.
Nothing is really new or discovered or invented, only rediscovered, renewed reinvented. and Father renews when it is time too.Many assume it is a destruction, but fail to understand Fathers process.cont..
Father plows his garden "earth" he then plans "seeds" then the growing "flesh" learning, then he comes to collect the fruit that any seeds might have produced for him.
It isn't sin that keeps the seed dormant, I assure yo, flesh is SIN, more accurately a corruption of Light. So what causes the seed to respond, to cause a rebirth, of your true life?
Never put your trust in anyone's hands here in this place, all here is deceit. To know this you must stop accepting in blindness & look
Here in this place, you will never read truth, all has been destroyed or removed or altered, in order to keep you here.
The key to being released isn't death I assure you
You will never find a resurrection from the grave, it is from the flesh, while in this place..It is a season, one could say, that history has no records of. fathers seasons are very long, beyond our recorded history.A new season is already begun and man is about to learn something he has never known before.
You are a extension of Father own Light. Flesh is a corruption of this light. Not a sin, but a lowering of Fathers light. You could not continue to exist in this very low light, this corruption of light. So he put you in flesh, and through the flesh you experience Life lacking Fathers light.. It is for the purpose of knowing, learning, so you can know existence apart from your Father and exist. And if you look out your door, you will see this existence "hell". cont..
when you are full, you will change I assure you. Father put something in you, and you will change, you were created with instructions "DNA" to do so.
Like a bird that has no choice but to lay an egg, or a bird to migrate south for the winter, or a salmon knows where and when to spawn.
When you are full of this place, you will change a desire with in you. This desire is a signal that you are ready, and great changes will begin. You will produce fruit for Father
Father gave everyone a gift and he put it where no one could ever take it from you. It cannot be corrupted or altered, mankind as of yet has not known this or found this. Man is learning, through the senses of flesh. Flesh is not who you are, it is where your true life is placed.But we only know the flesh, and read about the ideas of others. All you will ever need is within you, no one can ever take it. Father understood you will make many errors, this is how you learn. cont...
When father created your life, he put it in flesh so that you could become perfected. To understand existence as imperfect, to know the lack of his Light.
Imagine never knowing darkness on the planet, to become a perfection is too experience all. How could you appreciate a perfect fruit, when you have never known bad fruit. DO you see?
You are going to make many errors, this is one of your purposes in flesh. When you are full, you will crucify all flesh desires, and only ONE will remain.
Son of man is the result of your true life after its "rebirth" via a blessing from Father bringing forth a "Son of Man". This is perfect man a child of Father. This is how Father begets his children, without corruption of his Light.
This is the Virgin, not Mary. There is something Father desires for you, when you become "full" you will do this, because of what you are.. Just as a cow gives milk when it is full. This is how Father instructs man.
I have no fear of death because I know where I am going after this life ends. Do not deceive yourself, if you do not believe that what the Bible says then have look on testimonies of people who had vision of Christ or a supernatural experience of God. I have two friends who are very rational but encounter God in a audible and tangible way.
What did you mean by saying that you've been dead? I know that you are dead spiritually but I do not think you were dead physically!
When I say I've been dead before, I mean that from the early 20th century, going back billions of years, I was in the same state of not existing that I will be in the billions to follow. My atoms dispersed into the cycle of life in the universe. I don't recall that being the least bit unpleasant. As for your friends, I cannot speak of their experience because I have had none like them. Peace :)
You can create a theory you please, it is only a rebellious vim. You might have some supernatural experience of God but you have both, the Bible and other peoples witnesses. Type for example "Muslim converts to Christ" or "former terrorist converted to Christ". I gave this example because Islamic ideology is stronger brainwashing than atheism. I have told you, so you cannot blame me for your perdition.
Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by theory. There are also other religious scriptures and people witness other sorts of non-Christian supernatural experiences as well. Many many claims of various sorts, but I wouldn't know anything about them or perdition or theism. I simply have no use for such ideas, but I appreciate the good intentions of your warnings, as well as the warnings from those of competing claims. Good luck with that :)
The fact that there are supernatural experiences in opposed religious ideologies only confirms that God is not only one who can act in a supernatural way, but devil too. That's why the New Testament warns about adverse ideologies. However God has power over demonic world. You will see that miracles from God always agree with the Scriptures, and those that are from devil don't. For example appearance of Virgin Mary is against the Holy Scriptures.
Yes I'm aware of that argument. In fact, I'm very familiar with Christian beliefs. However, other beliefs have their explanations of Christianity too. I'm afraid the evidence simply isn't to a standard I need (alleged experiences of 'witnesses' and ancient writings won't do). I'm simply too limited to know such immense things without it. Thanks anyway though. Take care :)
You can know about something without knowing it as it is. My friend, ask God to reveal himself to you and he will answer according to his grace and majesty.
WOW!!!! Both you and dtstrain need to relax man...its not wrong to voice one's opinion in a matter...but trying to convince somebody that only your opinion can be the right one is a little extreme...just accept that there is a chance that there may be different versions of the truth in life...and not just one...and just get on with life as it comes :)
"You know how among the Gentiles those who seem to exercise authority lord it over them; their great ones make their importance felt. It cannot be like that with you" (Mark 10:42-43).
I have no fear of death because I don't subscribe to the Western notion that death is bad. I also don't subscribe to the notion that humans are somehow different or apart from all living things, so my death (and the death of my loved ones) is just as natural as the death of any other living thing.
You do fear death, matije7, or you wouldn't feel the need for a god to save you from it. Instead of coming to full terms with life, you adopted a crutch to comfort you.
You are actually degrading yourself to an animal or a plant because you have no God who to gives you higher existance.
I did fear the death before I turned to God, but now I fear it no longer because I am saved from power of death over and from the consequences of sin. As long as I stick to Christ I am saved and have no reason to fear death.
You on the contrary have no purpose here and have no certainty in the world to come.
How exactly is it "degrading" to be an animal or a plant? I can find value in life without the assistance of some notion that humans are better than other living things. The belief that humans are separate from the rest of the animal world is a sickness. You used to fear death because of sin, but your religion saved you? The reality is that your religion sold you the idea that you are inherently bad and need saving. They cut you and then sold you a bandaid, and you fell for it.
Matije, each of your five points is a logical fallacy. Each and every one of them is so flawed they have no meaning by default. It's as if you copied and pasted them straight from a top ten logical fallacy list. You think you can preach to me, when you haven't given any more thought to this matter than that??? You really should research your arguments. Seriously- there are tutorials on logical argument, and every one of your 5 items is there.
No reason to live? Wow, how sad that you feel that way. Seems the billions of us non-Christians on the planet seem to find many good reasons to live. Just look around you friend :)
Just ask a seventy years old person how quickly he/she got that old, and then you will be able to comprehend that it is a fragment of a second compering with eternity!
I think, rather, the mature acceptance of our mortality is essential to happiness in life. Such a fear of death that we must insist on eternal life beyond any reason to suspect it seems to me somewhat immature, self-centered, or greedy. We are truly here but a brief instant, and to squander that in the hopes of something beyond seems a tragedy. We are merely aggregates, borrowing our material from the universe and must repay our debt into that flux. I've been dead before - it wasn't so bad.
Just read 1 Corinthians 15 and you'll be pressed to wonder
how anyone could come up with this nonsense. Of course, he probably thinks Paul created his own religion distinct from Christ. If Jesus is the Lamb of God as John proclaimed, then He is surely in line with the centuries of sacrificial lambs -- only this One is unique.
does jeddah91 ever shut up?
ThisCanadian 9 months ago
I cannot detail how wonderful it is when you fufill you purpose here. And you are instructed by Father, who gives "wisdom" .
To know who you are, what you are, where you are, and why you are here.
This is just one fraction of the blessing that Father will grace you with.
To know yourself is a blessing, how is mankind doesn't know himself?
Blessing to all
jeddah91 2 years ago
There is a Divine calendar, but knowledge of this calendar destroyed, the civilization destroyed "Maya" by the crusades of church and another given to man, before he looked on his own. he accepted this calendar that is worthless, its called the Gregorian calendar and it was given to deceive man.
Father has seasons, but you don't know them if you did, you could easily become a prophet.
Just as I can tell you Dec is going to be cold.
It isn't really prophecy at all, its knowledge .
jeddah91 2 years ago
We are already into a new season, and great changes, beyond anything man has ever experienced in his recorded history will takes its place in Fathers order, a continuing process.
This process has come and gone many times, in 4.5 billion years and will continue, like clockwork.
Nothing is really new or discovered or invented, only rediscovered, renewed reinvented. and Father renews when it is time too.Many assume it is a destruction, but fail to understand Fathers process.cont..
jeddah91 2 years ago
Father plows his garden "earth" he then plans "seeds" then the growing "flesh" learning, then he comes to collect the fruit that any seeds might have produced for him.
It isn't sin that keeps the seed dormant, I assure yo, flesh is SIN, more accurately a corruption of Light. So what causes the seed to respond, to cause a rebirth, of your true life?
Never put your trust in anyone's hands here in this place, all here is deceit. To know this you must stop accepting in blindness & look
jeddah91 2 years ago
Here in this place, you will never read truth, all has been destroyed or removed or altered, in order to keep you here.
The key to being released isn't death I assure you
You will never find a resurrection from the grave, it is from the flesh, while in this place..It is a season, one could say, that history has no records of. fathers seasons are very long, beyond our recorded history.A new season is already begun and man is about to learn something he has never known before.
jeddah91 2 years ago
You are a extension of Father own Light. Flesh is a corruption of this light. Not a sin, but a lowering of Fathers light. You could not continue to exist in this very low light, this corruption of light. So he put you in flesh, and through the flesh you experience Life lacking Fathers light.. It is for the purpose of knowing, learning, so you can know existence apart from your Father and exist. And if you look out your door, you will see this existence "hell". cont..
jeddah91 2 years ago
when you are full, you will change I assure you. Father put something in you, and you will change, you were created with instructions "DNA" to do so.
Like a bird that has no choice but to lay an egg, or a bird to migrate south for the winter, or a salmon knows where and when to spawn.
When you are full of this place, you will change a desire with in you. This desire is a signal that you are ready, and great changes will begin. You will produce fruit for Father
"Son of Man" cont..
jeddah91 2 years ago
Father gave everyone a gift and he put it where no one could ever take it from you. It cannot be corrupted or altered, mankind as of yet has not known this or found this. Man is learning, through the senses of flesh. Flesh is not who you are, it is where your true life is placed.But we only know the flesh, and read about the ideas of others. All you will ever need is within you, no one can ever take it. Father understood you will make many errors, this is how you learn. cont...
jeddah91 2 years ago
When father created your life, he put it in flesh so that you could become perfected. To understand existence as imperfect, to know the lack of his Light.
Imagine never knowing darkness on the planet, to become a perfection is too experience all. How could you appreciate a perfect fruit, when you have never known bad fruit. DO you see?
You are going to make many errors, this is one of your purposes in flesh. When you are full, you will crucify all flesh desires, and only ONE will remain.
jeddah91 2 years ago
Resurrection is a poor description of a truth.
Son of man is the result of your true life after its "rebirth" via a blessing from Father bringing forth a "Son of Man". This is perfect man a child of Father. This is how Father begets his children, without corruption of his Light.
This is the Virgin, not Mary. There is something Father desires for you, when you become "full" you will do this, because of what you are.. Just as a cow gives milk when it is full. This is how Father instructs man.
jeddah91 2 years ago
I have no fear of death because I know where I am going after this life ends. Do not deceive yourself, if you do not believe that what the Bible says then have look on testimonies of people who had vision of Christ or a supernatural experience of God. I have two friends who are very rational but encounter God in a audible and tangible way.
What did you mean by saying that you've been dead? I know that you are dead spiritually but I do not think you were dead physically!
matije7 3 years ago
When I say I've been dead before, I mean that from the early 20th century, going back billions of years, I was in the same state of not existing that I will be in the billions to follow. My atoms dispersed into the cycle of life in the universe. I don't recall that being the least bit unpleasant. As for your friends, I cannot speak of their experience because I have had none like them. Peace :)
dtstrain 3 years ago
Friend,
You can create a theory you please, it is only a rebellious vim. You might have some supernatural experience of God but you have both, the Bible and other peoples witnesses. Type for example "Muslim converts to Christ" or "former terrorist converted to Christ". I gave this example because Islamic ideology is stronger brainwashing than atheism. I have told you, so you cannot blame me for your perdition.
matije7 3 years ago
Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by theory. There are also other religious scriptures and people witness other sorts of non-Christian supernatural experiences as well. Many many claims of various sorts, but I wouldn't know anything about them or perdition or theism. I simply have no use for such ideas, but I appreciate the good intentions of your warnings, as well as the warnings from those of competing claims. Good luck with that :)
dtstrain 3 years ago
Dear friend,
The fact that there are supernatural experiences in opposed religious ideologies only confirms that God is not only one who can act in a supernatural way, but devil too. That's why the New Testament warns about adverse ideologies. However God has power over demonic world. You will see that miracles from God always agree with the Scriptures, and those that are from devil don't. For example appearance of Virgin Mary is against the Holy Scriptures.
God Bless you
matije7 3 years ago
Yes I'm aware of that argument. In fact, I'm very familiar with Christian beliefs. However, other beliefs have their explanations of Christianity too. I'm afraid the evidence simply isn't to a standard I need (alleged experiences of 'witnesses' and ancient writings won't do). I'm simply too limited to know such immense things without it. Thanks anyway though. Take care :)
dtstrain 3 years ago
You can know about something without knowing it as it is. My friend, ask God to reveal himself to you and he will answer according to his grace and majesty.
matije7 3 years ago
WOW!!!! Both you and dtstrain need to relax man...its not wrong to voice one's opinion in a matter...but trying to convince somebody that only your opinion can be the right one is a little extreme...just accept that there is a chance that there may be different versions of the truth in life...and not just one...and just get on with life as it comes :)
veejaytee001 3 years ago
There is only one truth, and it is described plainly in the Bible. That is not my opinion, that is God's Word!
matije7 3 years ago
"You know how among the Gentiles those who seem to exercise authority lord it over them; their great ones make their importance felt. It cannot be like that with you" (Mark 10:42-43).
JFMJJ 3 years ago
I have no fear of death because I don't subscribe to the Western notion that death is bad. I also don't subscribe to the notion that humans are somehow different or apart from all living things, so my death (and the death of my loved ones) is just as natural as the death of any other living thing.
You do fear death, matije7, or you wouldn't feel the need for a god to save you from it. Instead of coming to full terms with life, you adopted a crutch to comfort you.
suzbailey23 2 years ago
You are actually degrading yourself to an animal or a plant because you have no God who to gives you higher existance.
I did fear the death before I turned to God, but now I fear it no longer because I am saved from power of death over and from the consequences of sin. As long as I stick to Christ I am saved and have no reason to fear death.
You on the contrary have no purpose here and have no certainty in the world to come.
matije7 2 years ago
How exactly is it "degrading" to be an animal or a plant? I can find value in life without the assistance of some notion that humans are better than other living things. The belief that humans are separate from the rest of the animal world is a sickness. You used to fear death because of sin, but your religion saved you? The reality is that your religion sold you the idea that you are inherently bad and need saving. They cut you and then sold you a bandaid, and you fell for it.
suzbailey23 2 years ago
1) If there is no God than we could not come into being as such complex beings.
2) If there is God I have purpose and you don't.
3) If I am disolusioned at least it will bring me purpose and happiness.
4) If there is no life after death than there is no differece wheather you live in pain or in pleasure, nor what ethics you have.
5) If the Bible is true than you are deceived by the devil and ruined thereoff.
matije7 2 years ago
Matije, each of your five points is a logical fallacy. Each and every one of them is so flawed they have no meaning by default. It's as if you copied and pasted them straight from a top ten logical fallacy list. You think you can preach to me, when you haven't given any more thought to this matter than that??? You really should research your arguments. Seriously- there are tutorials on logical argument, and every one of your 5 items is there.
suzbailey23 2 years ago
This is nonsense, how can someone say that Jesus did not resurrected and this world is an accident! If it be so there are no reason to live any more.
This guy says "what does it mean that Jesus had resurrected." It means what it says, and it says what it means.
But Jesus is still active in the world. See conversions of people who were changed by seeing Jesus.
matije7 3 years ago
No reason to live? Wow, how sad that you feel that way. Seems the billions of us non-Christians on the planet seem to find many good reasons to live. Just look around you friend :)
dtstrain 3 years ago
Just ask a seventy years old person how quickly he/she got that old, and then you will be able to comprehend that it is a fragment of a second compering with eternity!
matije7 3 years ago
I think, rather, the mature acceptance of our mortality is essential to happiness in life. Such a fear of death that we must insist on eternal life beyond any reason to suspect it seems to me somewhat immature, self-centered, or greedy. We are truly here but a brief instant, and to squander that in the hopes of something beyond seems a tragedy. We are merely aggregates, borrowing our material from the universe and must repay our debt into that flux. I've been dead before - it wasn't so bad.
dtstrain 3 years ago
Makes complete sense to me
FonziNied 3 years ago
i think Pauls writting need to be looked at for what they were ... Jesus may have considered him to be heretical
roscoebrowne2 3 years ago
Paul was a theologian, not a historian.
pppz0r 3 years ago
Just read 1 Corinthians 15 and you'll be pressed to wonder
how anyone could come up with this nonsense. Of course, he probably thinks Paul created his own religion distinct from Christ. If Jesus is the Lamb of God as John proclaimed, then He is surely in line with the centuries of sacrificial lambs -- only this One is unique.
norgeforkristus 3 years ago