The Republican Party supported: Birthright Citizenship for slaves & their kids (not for illegal aliens)-which the Tea Party supports-but my blk Dem.Congresslady won't support!. They also supported all the Amendments regarding our rights-including the right to vote, bear arms, own land (property) and all the other rights afforded to white citizens. Dems opposed these rights and the Klan (a branch of the Democrat Party) lynched blks & Republicans after the Civil War & through reconstruction!
Dixicrats became Republicans AFTER they rejected racism. Dems have a very good propoganda program regarding history. The Commies in Russia who thought up these tactics to get blacks to support Dems in order to get commie/socialist policies in this country came up with these lies about the Republican Party-which was founded to end slavery (remember the Civil War folks?) That came from the Abolinionist )sp?) movement-again to end slavery-and the churches in the US started that! It's the truth!
Sources: The Republican Party is not Responsible for the Demise of the Black Community, the Inner City is Part of this Republic in Name Only, Cases 895188, BC 385899.
The so-called university educated black middleclass have been breaking up law abiding black families for profit for decades, one of which being the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, Jr. family. I spend four years of my life in foster care. One of my sisters was in foster care from infancy until age 18.
"The black middle class dropping the ball w their children" Uploaded by pinkkelephant on Mar 17, 2010
That's not all the black middle class, black leaders, etc., are dropping the ball on.
Source: Ceyseau(dot)net and Inept Leaders
It won't be business as usual. To get my support or vote, President Obama, or any other elected Black leaders must uphold the U.S. Constitution in behalf of law abiding U.S. born descendants of slavery egregiously violated by the atrocities of government.
.....at the end of condemning & talking down to black people a predominately Black audience claps & cheers for this idiot.
Have Black people lost their mind?
Why give praise to President Barack Obama or any other misfit leader who kicks the Black community to the curb & beyond.
BO and/or other misfit leaders affiliated with the CBC place more value in serving illegal aliens and public unions than serving law abiding U.S. citizens and legal immigrants.
"Obama talks immigration reform with Latino roundtable" 9-28-2011 by CBS
"Obama tells CBC to "stop crying" 9-26-2011 by CBS
When illegal immigrants ask you to promote the "Dream Act" or for amnesty, surely you can state "I don't have time to feel sorry for myself. I don't have time to complain. It is time to move on. Stop complaining. Stop crying. Stop grumbling. Put on your marching shoes" too like you stated to U.S. born descendants of slaves who are U.S. citizens by birthright.
"Obama rule would let undocumented stay in U.S. during application" by Peter Nicholas, LA Times, 1-5-2012.
Illegal immigrants have better sense than to break up their families for profit, and here you have President Obama, the CBC, and the so-called university educated black middleclass using his or her influence to keep illegal immigrant families together, individuals who don't even belong on U.S. soil, while kicking law abiding black families to the curb for profit.
What this misleading and uninformative video deliberately omits is the gradual reversal of republican and democrat policies/views, which was largely finalized after the bull moose/'progressive' party and in the 60's when conservative democrats against civil rights left for the republican party. But hey, clumsy attempts at propaganda designed to persuade the masses of stupid and uninformed in history/politics is what conservatives do best, right?
So... You're saying the racist Democrats left the party of racism to join the party of abolition, and civil rights because the Democrat party was becoming too much like the Republican party? If they really did join the Republican party; why was it Republicans that supported the civil rights bills while the Democrats (who you say should have had no racists left) continued to oppose that agenda?
@vtc193 Wrong, I didn't say any of that, congratulations on failing to read a fairly simple paragraph. Did you not notice the words 'gradual' and 'finalized'? And it's not whether I say it happened or not, it's what happened, period. Look it up, originally the democrats were the party of slavery and racism but relatively recently the republicans have taken that role, the 'southern strategy' being unequivocal proof of the deliberate racism.
I did read your comment. That's why I decided to correct you. When was the Republican party in support of slavery and racism? Was it when a Republican President sent Federal troops to enforce integration against the opposition of Democrat State leaders? Or was it when a Democrat President spread Jim Crow laws to the Federal Government? How about when the seemingly racist Republicans passed almost all the Civil Rights laws with almost no support of the Democrats?
@vtc193 No, once again you failed abysmally to read at an adult level, and you haven't 'corrected' shit, just displayed your ignorance. Like I said, and what you are pathetically attempting to ignore, is that both the republican and democrat parties SWAPPED their members and policies around the time the bullmoose party was created and disbanded. This is evidenced by history and modern republican racism such as the southern strategy. Did I spell it out clearly enough for you that time?
The Bull-Moose Party was founded by Teddy Roosevelt before WW1. The Democrat President during World War 1 was a racist who supported Jim Crow on a Federal Level. So... In your world the Republican Party was founded to end slavery, became racist for some reason (but passed Civil Rights laws anyways), then was racist while Democrats (Who weren't racist) were endorsing Jim Crow laws in the south and breaking up rallies for Civil Rights. You do know what racism is, right?
@vtc193 Jesus you are so fucking retarded. Did I say the swap happened the instant the progressive party was formed, or over a period of time and was (mostly) finalized after the party was abolished? What happened after the party dissolved genius? The republicans joined the democrat party you fucking moron. Why do you think the two parties have reversed their geologically? Why are reps now in the south and dems in the north? Fucking twit, try using your brain for once.
You said "around the time" of the Bull-Moose Party. It wasn't around for very long. If what you meant to say was after the Bull-Moose Party you would still be wrong because FDR (a Democrat) has no similarities with the Republicans (ever). There were some ideological refugees from the Democrat Party that joined the Republicans during the time between Cleveland's terms but they did it because they opposed the dollar devaluation policies the Democrats wanted.
@vtc193 Again, I said the shift happened over a period of time and was MOSTLY finalized after the bull moose party collapse, not that all this happened in one specific period of time, jesus your brain must be tiny. How does the policy of one man disprove this idiot? Politicians would also really admit they switched parties because they were no longer welcome in the previous one either, wouldn't they genius? And how do you explain the geographical swap of north/south moron?
@vtc193 Additionally, how do you explain the southern strategy by the republicans, which utilized deliberate racism? Because the blacks are such a minority in the south and people in the mid-west are usually inbred racist fucktards with no grasp on history like yourself.
*Picard face palm* Racism is belittling a group of people, and claiming superiority based on those stereotypes.Sort of like what you're doing when you talk about people from the mid-west, and south I'm not from either of those places.You keep changing you theory.Was it done by the progressive era (I provided evidence against that theory), the 30's (I provided evidence against that theory), or the 60's which makes no sense as I have proven.Have you ever heard of demographics?
I would say as a good start a "Real Black Man" NOT be 50% caucasian like the Failed NOBAMA...no wonder he turned into such a sell-out for those White Communist Democrat Devils. Black folk are not COMMUNISTS...my God, that's who these people are; they've said so, and they are attempting to enslave all of us with their promises of East Street. They are USING YOU! White Communist Democrats don't love you! WAKE UP!!!
Let's list the rest of the republicans who want slavery back, only claimed Obama wasn't from here because he's part black, are constantly trying to push their religion on others, take away rights and twist science. Many conservatives are bible thumping idiots that hate muslims and atheists forgetting that MLK appointed secularists to his staff.
@hovo903 I never said your side is not diverse, but there's more to people than the color of their skin. As a matter of fact I do watch MSNBC quite often to see what kind of lunacy will come out of that trap of Rachel Maddow, or Ed Schultz. I always found what Olberman had to say entertaining also until he got fired yet agian. Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Dennis Prager, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck--none of them are birthers; They've all discredited the idea.
The Republican National Committee's health insurance plan covers elective abortion - a procedure the party's own platform calls "a fundamental assault on innocent human life."
Federal Election Commission Records show the RNC purchases its insurance from Cigna. Two sales agents for the company said that the RNC's policy covers elective abortion.
So tell me again - how is it acceptable for a political party to lobby against a policy they themselves employ?
Actually these people aren't Republicans. During their time Republican party and Democratic party were called different things. If most of them lived now they'd by called liberals.
@hovo903 I like the libtard mind: sprinkle in a little color and now your good people. As a minority I take offense to all the diversity claims. You idiots always want to put people into boxes: Women, minorities, gays. You proved it by putting ALL CONSERVATIVES int one group."Diversity" is just a way of saying I just want you around for your appearance, I don't want to know anything about you. I'm not a birther, I don't think he's musilm, RADICAL ISLAM IS bad, and unions have destroyed industry
WTF. Why can't they just be republicans? I never see meet the democrats and show a roll call of blacks...what in the hell is this nonsense. That is why I am independent and stray away from both herds.
Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote in his autobiography:
"The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism."
That was his description of the 1964 Republican National Convention. He also referred to the Republican convention as "the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right."
Welfare states… WELFARE - THE RATIONAL WORLD THE TOP TEN WELFARE RECIPIENT STATES 1) New Mexico (PURPLE/Swing State) 2) Mississippi (Republican) 3) Alaska (Republican) 4) Louisiana (Republican) 5) West Virginia (Republican) 6) Alabama (Republican) 7) South Dakota (Republican) 8) Kentucky (Republican) 9) Virginia (Republican) 10) Montana (Republican) Sources: Tax Foundation, 2010 Census not left/rightwing biased tv stations (i.e. FOX, CNBC, MSNBC)
Im so sick of people claimin MLK Jr and Jackie Robinson was a republican when he wasnt and has said so himself. Don King and Denzel are extremely rich and benefit greatly from right wing tax cuts for rich people that they pocket. Douglas was liberal and there is no proof Harriet Tubman was a republican. This is just another video making racist feel okay with their racism.
@TheDukeljk lol just like a liberal, call someone a fucking racist when race was not brought into the subject. the liberals ultimate shield is racism! whenever they cant disprove someone about anything, that person must be a racist! you dont like ketchup?? your a damn racist!
MLK was not a conservative nor was he a republican. In 1958 he gave an interview were he states that he is not republican or democrat. There is no proof that he was republican or belong to any politcal party. In his own autobiography he speaks out against the republican along with Barry Goldwater and Ronal Reagan. There is this sad and lame attempt by the right wing to reclaim the civil rights movement. A movement they had nothing to do with its success.
@TheCaliCapitalist maybe e wasn't always one, or maybe he didn't want to bring "party"into it. is children have stated e was. Don't forget he criticized some dem.s too. The only reason this video was made is because Dems and the media have convinced so many people that they're for blacks and reb are all white racist. when in fact Reb for the most part are the ones who passed the civil rights bill, and freed the slaves, wile most dems fought against both.
@TheCaliCapitalist how can this be racist?? this is a republican being PROUD that these black people were republican. what is wrong with you? there goes the liberal racist shield. many black people realize that democrats have many more racists then republicans. people that are the first to shout racism to other people are more times the racists themselves.
@TheCaliCapitalist well I assume Tubman, wasn't in favor of Democrats, because they were the party for slavery, maybe she was neither, but I'm just saying.
With MLK and Fredrick Douglas,and tubman What a lot of peoplr fail to realize is that back then the Republican and Democratic parties were basically the opposite of what they are today. People who are democrats now wouldve probably been republican and vice versa. I wouldve been a southern democrat if i lived in the 1800's but im a conservative republican now so its really not that fair of an analysis.
Whites want to tell themselves "hey I'm not racist because I never discriminated against black people" but in reality while you stand idley by and watch TeaParty activists/Birthers/Aryan Nation Militas etc run crazy and say nothing. Guess What! you're what's known as "Co-dependant Enablers" Kind of like the parents of drug addicts on that Intervention TV show. You know your fellow white Birther/Te Partier is straight racist but yet you say and do nothing accept justifying their evil behavior.
actually it is you that allows racist pieces of shit like the New Black Panther party to speak on Martin Luther King's birthday celebrations and the anniversary to his "I have a dream" speech in events organized by Al Sharpton, while trying to make it illegal for Beck to have regular people remember King and use his charisma to actually help bring people together.
@ptbwf Wow you're an idiot. New Black Panther Party is NOT racist first of all. White people spoon feed you that shit to again justify their actual racist groups like the KKK. NBPP is a defense and enpowerment organization. Research them and you'll find BP's and the KKK have two entirely different agendas - its comparing apples and oranges.I agree that Glenn Beck's crazy ass should not be allowed anywhere around the Martin Luther King Celebration. Beck is a HUGE racist opportunistic asshole.
actually I would argue that the KKK has radically changed to more combat the demographic problems in white communities than going after blacks and Catholics, they ARE still going after Jews because Jews DO control a lot of the west.
Meanwhile the new black panthers were attacked by the old black panthers(many of whom truly were racist decades ago, but changed a bit)as 'racists' and 'anti semites'
RACISM is not a partisan issue idiots. WHITE people hate BLACK people period. Always have and always will. Whether they're Republicans or Democrate holds absolutely no relevance whatsoever. ALL the whites stood together while watching black men get lynched. Todays Whites will grab any tidbit of bullshit information twist it, then try to use it to justy their racism,...It's hilarious really. This video is stupid and fuck you all.
@ptbwf Haha you're making me laugh outloud seriously. You obviously have a weak ass argument to claim I don't have a grasp on U.S. history. Newsflash grasshopper I'm the most dangerous type of black man. I have a college degree, I'm well read and I can crush any argument you present. So you have asbolutely no chance in debating me. I love educating crazy racist white people I really do. Oh I'll drop another bomb on you: Black people in the THIS country cannot be racist. its an oximoron.
you can't crush crap, and you can't spell worth crap(which is not part of my argument, but I am a spelling nazi so I can't stand so called educated people misspelling words in a day and age when you have auto spellcheck and countless sources that tell you how to spell the words you use), you also have no idea what the ACTUAL definition of racism is.
so no, a racist black person in this country isn't a oxYmoron.
yeah, everyone who made up that bullshit in their minds.
The Democrats are even further to the left of yesterday's Republicans and today's Republicans are ALSO even further to the left than yesterday's Republicans.
Today's Republicans would be Communists to these people, much less the Democrats.
@ThePatcam No, you'd have to be an idiot to think any of them would be a democrat. Truth be told, and this is really going to piss liberals off, is that if they were alive today, they would be heading a new political party that would stem from the Tea Party platform.
of course, because everyone knows that they would want to vote for a party that wants a repressive govt which limits the amount of success they can have.
@ptbwf yes, that is what the party line says about democrats, but in the real world, republicans are pro-corporate, anti-social spending, and very unpopular with minorities. there's a reason why 90% of blacks vote democrat.
@jonnyg28 because historically republicans are primarily concerned with business interests, while democrats have closer ties to communities and the like. conservatives like to dress it up with vague talk about "success" and "freedom", but they're really just serving their constituencies, while democrats try to help the middle class and the poor more. blacks are poorer then whites, so they rally around democratic candidates.
@ThePatcam HELP THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS?,hmmm,lets see food stamps,public housing,over $30,000,000 to planned parenthood(helping kill black baby's)the spreading of a communist,muslim,gay agenda(van jones,rom emanuel,mao-ist's in bama's cabinet wow this sure helps the poor and middle class huh?fact:the dems are slave masters who keep coloreds in there place with pimps like al sharpcon and jesse jackson,michael dyson,henry gates and that other fool who still sports an afro.wake up
@godschild928 When are you ever going to get off the plantation..??..The GOP does not care about the middle class...Can you provide any proof that they do...???..I bet you still worship a white Jesus...ain;t that right "step-n-fetch-it"....
@freein2339 lollllll,step n fetchit,wow is that all you have?,too bad your such a simpleton you don't even know that ol step's boss's were democrat studio owners,LETS GO TO SCHOOL,SINCE YOUR TOO SIMPLE TO DO THE RESEARCH,LOL,MLK,was a socialist commie who took fannie lou on the road with him,while his wife and kids sat at home,he was no man of God!,W.E.B believed in eugenics and just like MLK,received a margarath sanger award read there writings do the research cause name callin wont do it
The definition of "Republican" changed when FDR was elected. Yes, it's true the KKK was Democrat affiliated but now they are republican affiliated. Why? Because Republican & Democrat are just names. It’s the principle in which stands behind it that identifies "republican" or "democrat" Republicans are conservative & are now the democrats are liberal. If you look at the comments on many political YouTube videos you will find that many republicans or Obama haters are indeed racist, they admit it.
The only reason why KKK members are now mostly Republicans is because the Democrats actually support blatantly racist minority groups, Republicans don't support the KKK they just generally leave them alone.
To say that Democrats are Liberal(in the classic and only real sense)is an injustice to the word, Democrats will use anyone and anything to get more power, that is not what the "progressive" Republican party did.
@ptbwf There aren’t' any “racist minority groups". Don't say something stupid in response like "The black panthers" or "Malcolm X" or "George Lopez". You see, Racist like your self have this one hidden fear that they all share. They believe that Black people have this goal to kill White people. Racist feel guilty of the 400 years of slavery and rape, and they think we want some revenge. Parents instilled these ideas into their children, and now with Obama...Well they think he wants to kill.
You don't know what the definition of racism is and you honestly believe there aren't literally millions of black people who want to wipe white people off the globe, I KNOW there are.
There are hundreds of black supremacist sites with 1000's of members each who constantly relay this type of thinking.
Name me three. Unless you are bluffing your facts send me a personal message with three "black supremacist sites with 1000's of members..." I want to be informed of these "Evil, racist blacks". There was only 1 Black Supremacy organization, & that was under Elijah Muhammad, they called them selves the "black Muslims" And yes indeed, they were just as ignorant as the KKK. Now they call them selves something different, he is dead & they are no longer racist. So what are you talking about? @ptbwf
@ptbwf Well duh. Look at what whites did and still do to them. I don't condone it but whites aren't really helping the matter voting for racist ignorant jackasses who believe in a book that condones the very act whites forced on blacks.
@narutospearman I hate Obama's policies--I'm not a racist. The Obama haters that claim to be racist on youtube do not represent the majority of people that disagree with Obama's ploicies.
@jonnyg28 You and individuals like your self expect Obama to do the works of God. Humans are so selfish and inconsiderate. I hope it is understood that Obama was elected in to an Eight year debt caused by George W Bush. Obama is expected to just magically make the country rich in three moths? Even a year? No! Maybe, just maybe if these Republicans whose only goal is it gets rid of Obama at any cost, to "restore" the country to "Pure" & "White" would corraperate then we would be farther along.
@narutospearman I actually don't expect him to do "God's work". I expect him to act like a President! To stop apologizing for us and bowing down to other world leaders. When are you libs going to stop blaming Bush. I don't like how he spent either! I said I have issues with his policies: out of control spending, growth of govt, Obamacare, over-regulation, etc. I don't like our country in the hands of a Marxist who acts like the leader of some banana republic.
you assholes can tell yourselves todays republican is somehow the same as yesterdays congrassional republican if you want but youre simply lying to yourselves. You are delusional and this attempt to justify right wing hatred and overt racism is pretty weak. By your logic your saying Denzel and MLK would be Tea Partiers and Birthers today - stupid.
@gorillafix no thanks, once was more than enough. and you can read this part real slowly - say goodbye to your socialist, facist, communist friend and all his incompetent buddies next November - idiot! MWAH HA HA, we are all gonna party non-stop straight through inauguration day. WOOHOO!!
@gorillafix no thanks, once was more than enough. and you can read this part real slowly - say goodbye to your socialist, facist, communist friend and all his incompetent buddies next November - idiot! MWAH HA HA, we are all gonna party non-stop straight through inauguration day. WOOHOO!!
@gorillafix no thanks, once was more than enough. and you can read this part real slowly - say goodbye to your socialist, facist, communist friend and all his incompetent buddies next November - idiot! MWAH HA HA, we are all gonna party (Tea Party that is) non-stop, straight through inauguration day. WOOHOO!!
A well balanced individual does himself or herself a great disservice when they indentify themselves as anything other than a well balanced person. Well balanced people will have views, values and ideologies that are conservative, liberal and yes indepent of any political or religious group.
To clarify a bit, the common ideals of the Republican and Democrat parties changed immensely following the time period many of these names supported said party. For example, if Abraham Lincoln were alive today, he would most likely run as a Democrat. But really, party lines are a ridiculous element of the current political format. Pick the candidate you agree with the most, rather than turn it into a black and white power struggle.
@ptbwf Find me a quote on that one. I've been studying Lincoln since I was a child, and it's an insult to the man to even compare him to a radical Conservative of the modern age. In all honesty, I think he would be ashamed of politics in general today, for many reasons.
The Republican party of that day is a lot different of the Republican party today. Just as well as the Democrats. I do not feel that it should be noted that one party freed the slaves or gave rights to all people, like the Democrats actually did during the time of Dr. King. We misrepresent things, political parties are made up factions of humans. We believe not by colors but by heart. Just show me one African-American, presently, that sits with the GOP, not many! Good informative post!! :-)
@iamrawtocool Good post! This video is very slick. It is an ongoing thing for republicans to not mention the change of the party upon the civil rights and voting rights bills being passed in the 1960s. The only one that would have likely stayed with or agreed with the GOP is Washington and that explains why other than praising the boys club, he does little else.
@REASONINFUSION No, I was not speaking in reference to anything the GOP is trying to do. I called it a good post solely on the bounds that many people do not know that these men were Republicans. This shows how the Republican party has changed. At one time they were the part of the people, but now they are only the party of the a few. There are not many prominent African-Americans who are Republicans, but a few. King would not be a Republican if he was alive today and many of the others.
@iamrawtocool The Republican party contrasts so much from the democrats (in most spots) I would have thought just out of couriosity people would know more! I read Ayn Rand out of couriosity! Concluded she was "full of it" and a sick chick, but read her so I could conclude with some accuracy.
@REASONINFUSION I love all the Objective qualifications i'm seeing here. Not from you, but these people who are saying "Democrats continue to separate races even further" and "Democrat = true racist" and these people have the most likes! Look, no one is simply anything; its individuals who are racist, individuals who are biggots, not a single party like the Democrats OR the Republicans. "When you label me, you negate me" Soren Kierkegaard. But I suppose ignorance is not only bliss, but easier.
@forttrres I agree that no one is simply everything, but I will Have to borrow from Bill Mahre here with his line, "Being Republican doesn't make you a racist, but if you are a racist, you are most likely a republican". It has always been my point that KKK members, skinheads and other assorted bigots do vote and they do not vote democrat. It is also fair to say that a few fringe groups are black and they do not vote at all in general. "Black" GOPers, uncletoms. But that is just my opinion lol.
@REASONINFUSION No thats true and a good point, but I always believe that there are exceptions to the rule. Its not fair, both to the idea and the individual involved, to say someone is purely anything just for an ideal they follow. But I suppose thats just my opinion as well.
@forttrres For sure No one is just one thought or belief, but, and check this out for yourself, many beliefs serve as "pillars" for other beliefs. For example if I believe someone is stupid by nature, I will likely also believe further education is a waste, they are better doing the most simple work, their children will be stupid, their mate is stupid, all that look like them is stupid and on and on. That is the danger of some thoughts. Others because of it tend to exist A priori.
@REASONINFUSION Yeah the "pillars concept" can be helpful in explaining a personality, but a slippery slope mindset is something I think we should avoid. Like well since this white male is racist all others are racist. But I don't believe to many people are stupid by nature, I think they just chose to play the idiot for some psychological reason, but yeah higher education is unfortunantly a waste on them as well. But we have to remember it's our opinion that their stupid.
@forttrres Yes, it is "our opinion" that they are stupid as beliefs are opinions only some more valid than others, the closer it comes to being factually correct. The syllogism of "he is of them and they are ...therefore" should be done away with, but that is different from knowing by virtue of a definition that one belief automatically assumes another. I agree that not many people are stupid by nature, in fact I would say I do not know of any .
@REASONINFUSION Yeah, I can agree that the only way people's opinions are more valid then others is if they can be proven to be more factually correct. Yeah the thing about some people is that they hide their true intentions and methods so we don't really know what to think about most people. Hell I do it a lot. Nowadays it is hard to tell who is legitimately dumb because it's becoming popular to act like idiots, or be inauthentic, if you will :D
@forttrres 2) It is my opinion that no matter how stupid a person may appear, you can't really know they are unless you know their stated goals are not inline with their method of going about achieving them. Even then a better choices of words would do better.
too bad there are thousands upon thousands of supremacist minority members who vote Democrat...
The New Black Panther party is mostly Democrats, as are the Brown Berets, the rest are included in the so called "middle"(independents)who vote Democrat or Green party every time.
@ptbwf Stop it!!!! The new black panthers DON'T VOTE!!! The same goes for the NOI. Listen and listen good! Not one black group in any way can change the life of the advantaged white and you know it!!!! They will not interview you for a job, make any law you have to live by or determine interest rates! White bigotry remains the most powerful force in america! If I called a white person "cracker" all day the most it would do is hurt his feelings if that! Enough with the bullshit!
Actually the NAACP(and many other groups like the National Urban League and Housing for Urban Development)have a hand and a say in almost any law to make sure the law specifically benefits or doesn't discriminate against blacks, far more power than any group that claims it is trying to benefit whites, not to mention the many racist black mayors we have in this country and the racist city council members.
@ptbwf I know the NBPP and the NOI do not vote because I know them well! As for "benefits" every law prior to 1968 was for whites! The homestead act underwrote billions in loans for houses and 98% went to whites! The GI bill was denied black soldiers for the first 15 years and whites purchased houses! Your SUPREME COURT said "no black man has any rights a white man need respect". "Racist" mayors???? NOT ONE BLACK MAN OR GROUP HAS THE POWER TO MAKE YOUR WHITE LIFE DIFFICULT SO CUT THE BULLSHIT!
of course you know them well, you are one of them.
What about Section 8 housing TODAY, which is benefiting almost exclusively non white people to get into higher end neighborhoods with no actual wealth?
Your arguments would have struggled against mine in 1970, much less in 2011, where I can murder every single talking point you think you have with simple figures.
@ptbwf From the "founding" of a nation that was built on white supremacy to 1968 every government policy was to keep non-white from competing with whites! from the home stead act that gave 98% of home loans to whites only, to other policies you have been given an advantage that no policies of the last 40 years can undo. You talk of section 8, but you have no problem with whites having been giving 98% of home loans that allowed them to create wealth! That is typical.
@ptbwf Again you have proven to be a fool and a poor rep of white "intelligence"! 1) NO AMOUNT OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS IMPLEMENTED IN THE LAST 40 YEARS CAN MAKE UP FOR THE MILLIONS OF ACRES STOLEN AND GIVEN TO YOUR PEOPLE! 2) NO AMOUNT OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS CAN MAKE UP FOR THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS GENERATED BY EXPORTS PRODUCED WITH FREE AND UNDERPAID BLACK LABOR! 3) SECTION 8 GIVES THE RIGHT TO RENT, THE HOMESTEAD ACT GAVE YOU WHITES THE RIGHT AND ADVANTAGE OF OWNERSHIP! You bore me!
and this is why blacks will never really be as smart as the most brilliant whites, you just can't bring yourself to think for one second that you are wrong about this, you will never let go of your victim status.
@ptbwf "blacks will never really be as smart as the most brilliant whites" The record for the youngest people to pass college level math are twin Nigerian 8 year olds! What were you doing at 8??? In fact what was any one in your entire family doing at 8???? You whites must say what YOU HAVE DONE AND YOU ARE AVERAGE!!! YOU did not invent the light bulb! YOU did not invent the telephone! Next, You can only find meaning in your life by comparing your low self to the one group you killed for
@ptbwf 2) You whites don't feel just a little silly comparing yourselves to the one group you used to beat and kill for learning 60 years ago????? Newsflash, YOUR RIVALS ARE OTHER NATIONS AND PEOPLE WHO HAD LITTLE TO NO BREAK IN ACADEMICS!!! COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO WERE FREE TO PROSPER, YOU ARE BEHIND IN ACADEMICS, TECHNOLOGY AND MORALITY! Asians and eastern indians have exposed you white for the frauds you are and always have been when you had to compete.
@ptbwf 2) In a nation that says black people are livestock, in a nation where virtually every president publicly says blacks are inferior to whites, you have an advantage that you don't deserve and have never earned. You say you have numbers! I am here armed to the teeth with facts about your unearned privilege and I want you to give me you "facts" and numbers NOW. Lets go!!!!! If your people had any morality at all no programs would be needed for non-whites!
@ptbwf 2) In a nation that says black people are livestock, in a nation where virtually every president publicly says blacks are inferior to whites, you have an advantage that you don't deserve and have never earned. You say you have numbers! I am here armed to the teeth with facts about your unearned privilege and I want you to give me you "facts" and numbers NOW. Lets go!!!!! If your people had any morality at all no programs would be needed for non-whites!
@ptbwf 3) As for blacks being victims, You have benefited from living in the ONLY NATION TO HAVE AS A PART OF ITS CONSTITUTION A MEANS OF COUNTING HUMAN BEINGS AS LIVESTOCK!!! FROM 1619 TO 1968 YOUR PEOPLE CREATED LAWS THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR EDUCATION, BUSINESS, FAIR TRIALS, POLITICS, OR EMPLOYMENT TO BENEFIT BLACKS!!! From 1619 to 1968!!!!!!!! You whites have been the most morally bankrupt people on earth. 20 years after hitler you beat us for voting!!!!! We are victims and you are savage.
@ptbwf 2) You will never have to go to any other than a white person for a job! You will never have to be arrested by anyone who thinks you are a criminal by nature! You will never have to be taught by a person who thinks you can't learn! You can talk that "victim" crap all you want, but you will never have to be at the mercy of any body other than your own savage group! Stop bitching and enjoy the land your people stole and murdered for your enjoyment.
on the contrary idiot, I now have a black boss that runs my department.
If I was trying to get employed in my department today, I would be in a interview with a white WOMAN who is using this black woman's criteria for an employee, not her own.
I was taught supposedly high level math by a black man who refused to stay on subject and instead decided to teach about why affirmative action was good, and consequently hundreds of young men now have no hope in having a future in math.
@ptbwf You seem to resent working for a black boss so be a fucking man you piece of shit and quit or stop your fucking bitching! As for the "criteria" of hiring that is that of a black woman, we blacks have been having to meet the criteria of whites for 400 years from you trash looking up our asses to giving us tests in the effort to keep us out of the companies. For once you may have to be more than just white and your fucking ass is coming apart! Stop bitching and quit.
I didn't say I resented working for a black boss, I haven't even interacted with her yet, I was just giving you the FACTS about how desperately wrong you are on this.
I didn't say I resented working for a black boss, I haven't even interacted with her yet, I was just giving you the FACTS about how desperately wrong you are on this.
@ptbwf 2) If a black man was "suppose" to teach you "high level" math it is because he was qualified to teach it! If he chose to speak on other things that is his business. Newsflash white boy, If you had to be in that black mans class you obviously did not know how to do it!!! Get off your fashioned sense of superiority and lift your white trash ass up! Oh, since George w Bush butchered the english language thousands of dumb whites think it is okay to be stupid!
sorry, but again your pathetic point was once again defeated by the fact that I did indeed have MULTIPLE black teachers all throughout my life, which your dumb ass claimed didn't happen.
If I am "white trash", you are black sewer sludge because you are lowest of low on the scale of intelligence.
@ptbwf You use the old "lowest of low" on scale of intelligence! Here are the facts: 1) what does it say about you whites who can only compare yourselves to the ONE GROUP YOU WOULD KILL FOR LEARNING TO READ? Not even 50 years ago your government would not even allow black schools to purchase the same text books as white schools! Even after that, 15% of blacks (I am included) score higher than whites on IQ tests! 2) Black IQ has gone up every year since the end of segregation.
@ptbwf 3) Your "intelligence" should be compared to GROUPS THAT HAD NO BREAK IN ACADEMICS!! WHEN YOU DO THAT, THE FACT IS YOU AMERICAN WHITES ARE BEHIND ASIANS, EASTERN INDIANS. AND WHITES FROM ABROAD! America is considered to be one of the dumbest nations on average and that is assumed by interviews with whites. Next, The record for the youngest to pass college level math is held by 8 year old NIGERIAN TWINS!!! HOW OLD WERE YOU OR ANYONE IN YOUR FAMILY WHEN THEY TOOK ADVANCED MATH! LOL
other than a few examples of prodigies, the non white population is endlessly propped up in the media for accomplishing what used to be the standard for an advanced student in school.
American whites are smarter than every other white group besides Scandinavians, those interviewers are self hating dumbasses. America is actually dragged down by blacks and especially Hispanics. The smartest white people are as smart or smarter than the smartest people on the globe.
When you are inferring here that the Democrats today are "the party of the people", I guess you mean that MOST white people aren't part of "the people", both in the south and the north.
Say racist shit about black people and you are a racist, say racist shit about white people and you are "the party of the people".
Thanks for posting. The democrats have always been on the wrong side of history. What is funny, they use propoganda to fool the people and say the Republican party has changed. The sad thing is it is the Democrat party that has changed. The democrat party has moved so far to the left that I would consider them communists.
@SilverFox466 Well in that case, you could also make the same argument that the Republican Party has moved so far to the right that they can be considered by some to be Oligarchist's, or the extreme of Facists. The Democrats have changed, this is true, but could you honestly say that the Republican Party of today is the same as that in the 50s? Or even the 80s? Just my two sense.
@forttrres Actually the Republicans have moved further to the left. Look at Bush's TARP Bailout. TARP is not somthing the right would do. His attempt to create a democracy in every 3rd world country is somthing the left supports more than the true right. Spending us to extinction is a leftist move, and look at what the Republicans did in early to mid-2000's. The problem is the far left has just moved us closer to colapse and has done it much quicker. Republicans are not racists as they say.
@SilverFox466 Well, given Bush's pro-big business mentallity, I wouldn't call it to far fetched. And given the actions and ideals of the Tea Party, which is gaining huge momentum, all of which label themselves Republican, i'd this New Right pretty right. Attempts at Democracy would be great if that were his real motivations and if it actually ended up happening. When we didn't interfere many countries of late have been gaining their freedoms, not only without our help, but demanding we DON'T.
@SilverFox466 How exactly has the far left moved us closer to collapse and has done it much quicker? 8 years of dwindling government regulation, a very Republican move, would have moved us toward that pretty fast. Also the fact during this time we ended up spending money on wars. Turning the small surplus we had into a huge debt to pass on to the next president isn't exactly a pro move either. But I can agree not all Republicans are racists, its unfair to objectively qualify an entire group.
@forttrres Iraq War spending was not even 15% of the total deficit spending in that time frame. The cumulative deficit, 2003-2010, would have been four-point-something trillion dollars with or without the Iraq War.
@forttrres The Iraq War accounts for less than 8% of the federal debt held by the public at the end of 2010 ($9.031 trillion).
During Bush's Iraq years, 2003-2008, the federal government spent more on education that it did on the Iraq War. (State and local governments spent about ten times more.)
@forttrres The fact that the democrats passed so much spending and never read the bills shows the irresponsible behavior. Obama said that the Cap and Trade would make energy prices sky rocket. I don't think we have seen the full affect of that yet. Obama single handedly spent more than all presidents up and through Regan. The republicans had their hand in it too, but the spending sky rocketed with Obama, and all he has done has made the economy worse off. Look at the numbers.
@SilverFox466 Who says they never read the bill? If I remember, Hermain Cain wanted bills to be passed short so they wouldn't have to spend so much time reading them. I'll take deficit spending though. Especially medicare. These bennefits ensure that the money we have isn't spent on constant healthcare bills and we can spend the money we have to stimulate the economy. But if we also wanted to cut down on our debt, we should start by reversing the Bush era tax cuts on the rich.
@forttrres The Feds have printed money (Quantitative Easing) twice since Obama has taken office. They are about to do it for the third time. This will lead to massive inflation. The US dollar is used as the worlds currency, but how long will that last. We can't pay our debt, once that happens, as it did in the UK in 1967, we will lose that status. We don't produce, we only consume. That is both Dems and Republicans fault. We may see the collapse of the US dollar within the next year.
@SilverFox466 The problem with the argument about England in 1967 is that they also inherited a huge deficit of 800million, huge for their time obviously, from the conservative party 3 years prior. It seemed between that or taking out huge loans from foreign countries, like, I suppose, China. Yeah I won't disagree, both Democrats and Republicans can equally share the blame for this. Its neither side's fault, but I will put a lot of the blame for a lack of government regulation for 8 years.
@forttrres Actually the debt was acumulated from WWII. The US bailed them out after WWII. The Labor Party atempted to fix the problem through a socialist program (that Obama is using) called redistribution of wealth. It in turn caused inflation to increast by 13% overnight. While I agree that our debt problem is caused by both parties. I disagree about regulation. Regs have restricted business. The government needs to get out of the way. Business can't invest due to regs, why would they?
@SilverFox466 England received huge support from the Marshall Plan, and was at the point where they refused aid from the plan by 1950, as there were forms of success in other parts of the economy. But there has to be an equal distribution of the wealth, or literally as close as we can get it. There has got to be a proper consumer base for these products, and with people spending money on healthcare or putting every penny they have toward retirement, what person is going to stimulate an economy?
@SilverFox466 But without proper government regulation, the economy and living standards fall into disarray. The 1920s and the Guilded Age being 2 prime examples. And with absolutely no form of government regulation, workers have even less rights then they do, the poverty gap rises, as does the nation's economic inequality, monopolies form which put strangleholds on markets, previous states have proven this. There has to be a form of balance between Business and State in a Capitalistic society.
@forttrres Coomon sense approach is good. Such as right for workers etc. However, when we start talking about affirmative action (bad thing), or regulations that restrict business from growing then that is not good. The EPA energy regulations (some may say is good) but the agenda behind it is to spread the wealth to under established nations. The point is - we can't have regulations that put the boots on the necks of business, especially in a time of 9.2% unemployment.
@SilverFox466 We're never putting the boots on the necks of business. Tax rates are at the lowest they have been since, I read somewhere, the Eisenhower era. These taxes that people are arguing for wouldn't hinder the business growth. Hell most of them get a source of cheap labor outside the US. Business Taxes nowadays arn't even close to how they were in the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, or even Regan. What regulations proposed would restrict business from growing to the point of no profit?
@forttrres We are putting the boots on the American Business - and the taxes may be low, but how are we going to compete in a global market when there are other countries not taxing at all? How are we going to compete when our regulations will put them out of business, they will move where they can compete in the world. I would not start a business here because it would not be profitable. It is a joke, the regualations are so confusing now who would want to start a business here?
@SilverFox466 With the high corporate tax rates, 91% for Eisenhower, 70% during Nixon, and even the 50% during Reagan, of all people. Reagan also raised the public debt from around 711billion to about 2,051 trillion, as he was a fan of spending without raising taxes. People will always want to start business. It's the idea drilled into the youth at an early age, that idea of the "American Dream" of having your own business. People will always want their own business, and regulations will help.
@forttrres I have now been out of work for four years. I don't even know if I am employable at this point in time. Even though I am nearly half way done with a Master's degree. I worked for the Federal Government for about 8 months, but because I was not a minority and the fact that I am not a homosexual, I lost my job. Even though I am more than qualified, my social status in society made me an easy target. Regulations such as these don't make sense. What is good for one should be good for all
@SilverFox466 I can agree to that. Its not fair to up and throw you out a job your more then qualified for just because of affirmative action. I was never aware that they could actually do that when you actually had the job. But if you work for the Federal Government, those regulations, if they didn't have those regulations, couldn't they still fire you? Since I imagine the official report didn't claim affirmative actions.
@SilverFox466 And the sad thing is, Regulations of the Rights of Workers wasn't, and probably still isn't, common sense to the higher ups. I mean look at the business practices these people do in third world countries, and the practices during the late 19th century, which only ended from government regulation. Arkansas was trying to repeal child labor laws. So its a hard thing to justify in my opinion.
@forttrres Again, a common sense approach. But regualations that are implimented that stifle business growth, or puts people out of work, redistrubtes the wealth, or puts money in a corupt politicians pockets is wrong. For example, regualations that limits drilling in our own country due to some criteria then selling our goods to a third world country when that will go well beyond our safety regulation is bad. It put people out of work, and harms the country.
@SilverFox466 How is that wrong? Business regulations are not set in place simply to fuck over profit. Most of the time they are implemented for security for the workers, as they should, or to stifle short term profits, most of which miniscule, and to keep long term stability. So these recessions don't happen that often. Most of these regulations for drilling are because of the environment, and in my opinion, rightly so.
@forttrres If regulations are so good then why is half the country out of work? Obama has put the boots on the necks of corporations. Obama may be well intentioned, but his spread the wealth mentality is failing. It is making us all poorer, and making the economy much worse. I remember the boom years with Reagan. He lowered taxes and stabilized the economy by getting out of the way. Complicating and controlling organizations through regulation makes doing business more difficult.
@SilverFox466 Well half the country isn't out of work. Right before the Great Depression we had low corporate tax rates, as well as almost every other recession. If these other countries arn't taxing at all, look at where it got them. Most of South America has HUGE gaps in wealth equality, and living conditions there are not even comparable to the United States. While socialist countries have some of the best living conditions in the world.
@forttrres What kills me - these regulations that protect the rights of workers have made organizations pay workers with a 6th grade education $40.00 dollars an hour, when people with an actual degree are averaging $30.00 an hour, all because the worker belongs to some uniion. The organization can no longer afford to pay a high school drop out $40.00 an hour, so they leave the country. Then the worker with the 6th grade education has no skills other than bulting on some fender all day long.
@SilverFox466 How many corporations are forced to pay a person with a 6th grade $40.00 an hour? What unions demand such high benefits?? Because if someone is being paid $40 an hour, the job has to have a specific skill set, or to set a specific kind of person. And if their being paid more then you and you have more skill, why try to get employed there? There are many of these idealistic ideas, but I don't see to many actually in effect.
@SilverFox466 Also, if business is to confusing to someone, that person should not be running their own business. If they tried to start one it would fail pretty fast, and since there will always be regulation of some kind, which if they can't follow or bother trying to get help to try to follow it, they have no business trying to run a business properly. Thats like trying to pull someone off the street and have them work in astro-physics. Nothing worth having ever comes easy.
@forttrres Listen - it was nice debating you; however, you idea of success for America is big government. I would assume that this ideology is coming from you leftist professors who have never ran a business. That is okay, I will never convince you and you will never convince me. Good luck and thanks for being respectful.
@SilverFox466 No problem bro, but my ideology comes from independent study i've done, given interest in the topic. I haven't actually had any leftist professors... I've just started college. But thank you for being respectful as well, good luck to you to. And my ideal government is one that hasn't happened since the 1930's in Europe haha but I work with what we have. Good luck to you.
MLK's views are democratic in today's US. He was against war. I believe that his stance against the Vietnam War is what ultimately cost him his life. They claim James Earl Ray killed. I know from my studies, that confessions are not always accurate. He was never given a trial. The shot that hit MLK was a professional shot, and prisoners in jail are not professional criminals. MLK was killed because he was a threat. He brought people of all races together against the government corruption
This is a disgrace none of these poeple were ever republicans nice try whiteeeee. Stick to what you do best you racist basterds. We will never be republicans because are the devil children and are here to ruin america. Since back in office the have tryed to dismantal the government and cause unrest. They are threat to national security and will so have to be delt with. If you smart democrates better be prepared to put these dogs down.
@40247 Open a history book and learn everything wrong with your statement. MLK was especially a republican, because he believed in equal rights but not a fucking race war like you want. You want a fucking race war eh? This isn't 1960, don't you see how the democrats are always the first ones to bring up race? Dude.. 20% more republicans voted for the civil rights act than DEMOCRATS did! The left has you brainwashed, republicans NEVER bring race into the issue until the dems do. Wake up.
They are all rich. The republican party of today is a southern base party. 60 years ago that wasn't so.
TheCaliCapitalist 4 days ago
The Republican Party supported: Birthright Citizenship for slaves & their kids (not for illegal aliens)-which the Tea Party supports-but my blk Dem.Congresslady won't support!. They also supported all the Amendments regarding our rights-including the right to vote, bear arms, own land (property) and all the other rights afforded to white citizens. Dems opposed these rights and the Klan (a branch of the Democrat Party) lynched blks & Republicans after the Civil War & through reconstruction!
GRITSBK 1 week ago
Dixicrats became Republicans AFTER they rejected racism. Dems have a very good propoganda program regarding history. The Commies in Russia who thought up these tactics to get blacks to support Dems in order to get commie/socialist policies in this country came up with these lies about the Republican Party-which was founded to end slavery (remember the Civil War folks?) That came from the Abolinionist )sp?) movement-again to end slavery-and the churches in the US started that! It's the truth!
GRITSBK 1 week ago
"Don King" hahahaa what a joke
sopranos219 1 week ago
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Ceyseau and Inept Leaders
Sources: The Republican Party is not Responsible for the Demise of the Black Community, the Inner City is Part of this Republic in Name Only, Cases 895188, BC 385899.
The so-called university educated black middleclass have been breaking up law abiding black families for profit for decades, one of which being the Mr. and Mrs. Leon E. Lofton, Jr. family. I spend four years of my life in foster care. One of my sisters was in foster care from infancy until age 18.
MLL1127 2 weeks ago
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"The black middle class dropping the ball w their children" Uploaded by pinkkelephant on Mar 17, 2010
That's not all the black middle class, black leaders, etc., are dropping the ball on.
Source: Ceyseau(dot)net and Inept Leaders
It won't be business as usual. To get my support or vote, President Obama, or any other elected Black leaders must uphold the U.S. Constitution in behalf of law abiding U.S. born descendants of slavery egregiously violated by the atrocities of government.
MLL1127 2 weeks ago
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.....at the end of condemning & talking down to black people a predominately Black audience claps & cheers for this idiot.
Have Black people lost their mind?
Why give praise to President Barack Obama or any other misfit leader who kicks the Black community to the curb & beyond.
BO and/or other misfit leaders affiliated with the CBC place more value in serving illegal aliens and public unions than serving law abiding U.S. citizens and legal immigrants.
MLL1127 2 weeks ago
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"Obama talks immigration reform with Latino roundtable" 9-28-2011 by CBS
"Obama tells CBC to "stop crying" 9-26-2011 by CBS
When illegal immigrants ask you to promote the "Dream Act" or for amnesty, surely you can state "I don't have time to feel sorry for myself. I don't have time to complain. It is time to move on. Stop complaining. Stop crying. Stop grumbling. Put on your marching shoes" too like you stated to U.S. born descendants of slaves who are U.S. citizens by birthright.
MLL1127 2 weeks ago
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"Obama rule would let undocumented stay in U.S. during application" by Peter Nicholas, LA Times, 1-5-2012.
Illegal immigrants have better sense than to break up their families for profit, and here you have President Obama, the CBC, and the so-called university educated black middleclass using his or her influence to keep illegal immigrant families together, individuals who don't even belong on U.S. soil, while kicking law abiding black families to the curb for profit.
MLL1127 2 weeks ago
The Libs and the Repubs are all the same! None of them are for you, Negro.
ZullaAnimation 1 month ago
What this misleading and uninformative video deliberately omits is the gradual reversal of republican and democrat policies/views, which was largely finalized after the bull moose/'progressive' party and in the 60's when conservative democrats against civil rights left for the republican party. But hey, clumsy attempts at propaganda designed to persuade the masses of stupid and uninformed in history/politics is what conservatives do best, right?
joope666 1 month ago
@joope666
So... You're saying the racist Democrats left the party of racism to join the party of abolition, and civil rights because the Democrat party was becoming too much like the Republican party? If they really did join the Republican party; why was it Republicans that supported the civil rights bills while the Democrats (who you say should have had no racists left) continued to oppose that agenda?
vtc193 3 weeks ago
@vtc193 Wrong, I didn't say any of that, congratulations on failing to read a fairly simple paragraph. Did you not notice the words 'gradual' and 'finalized'? And it's not whether I say it happened or not, it's what happened, period. Look it up, originally the democrats were the party of slavery and racism but relatively recently the republicans have taken that role, the 'southern strategy' being unequivocal proof of the deliberate racism.
joope666 2 weeks ago
@joope666
I did read your comment. That's why I decided to correct you. When was the Republican party in support of slavery and racism? Was it when a Republican President sent Federal troops to enforce integration against the opposition of Democrat State leaders? Or was it when a Democrat President spread Jim Crow laws to the Federal Government? How about when the seemingly racist Republicans passed almost all the Civil Rights laws with almost no support of the Democrats?
vtc193 2 weeks ago
@vtc193 No, once again you failed abysmally to read at an adult level, and you haven't 'corrected' shit, just displayed your ignorance. Like I said, and what you are pathetically attempting to ignore, is that both the republican and democrat parties SWAPPED their members and policies around the time the bullmoose party was created and disbanded. This is evidenced by history and modern republican racism such as the southern strategy. Did I spell it out clearly enough for you that time?
joope666 2 weeks ago
@joope666
The Bull-Moose Party was founded by Teddy Roosevelt before WW1. The Democrat President during World War 1 was a racist who supported Jim Crow on a Federal Level. So... In your world the Republican Party was founded to end slavery, became racist for some reason (but passed Civil Rights laws anyways), then was racist while Democrats (Who weren't racist) were endorsing Jim Crow laws in the south and breaking up rallies for Civil Rights. You do know what racism is, right?
vtc193 1 week ago
@vtc193 Jesus you are so fucking retarded. Did I say the swap happened the instant the progressive party was formed, or over a period of time and was (mostly) finalized after the party was abolished? What happened after the party dissolved genius? The republicans joined the democrat party you fucking moron. Why do you think the two parties have reversed their geologically? Why are reps now in the south and dems in the north? Fucking twit, try using your brain for once.
joope666 1 week ago
@joope666
You said "around the time" of the Bull-Moose Party. It wasn't around for very long. If what you meant to say was after the Bull-Moose Party you would still be wrong because FDR (a Democrat) has no similarities with the Republicans (ever). There were some ideological refugees from the Democrat Party that joined the Republicans during the time between Cleveland's terms but they did it because they opposed the dollar devaluation policies the Democrats wanted.
vtc193 4 days ago
@vtc193 Again, I said the shift happened over a period of time and was MOSTLY finalized after the bull moose party collapse, not that all this happened in one specific period of time, jesus your brain must be tiny. How does the policy of one man disprove this idiot? Politicians would also really admit they switched parties because they were no longer welcome in the previous one either, wouldn't they genius? And how do you explain the geographical swap of north/south moron?
joope666 4 days ago
@vtc193 Additionally, how do you explain the southern strategy by the republicans, which utilized deliberate racism? Because the blacks are such a minority in the south and people in the mid-west are usually inbred racist fucktards with no grasp on history like yourself.
joope666 4 days ago
@joope666
*Picard face palm* Racism is belittling a group of people, and claiming superiority based on those stereotypes.Sort of like what you're doing when you talk about people from the mid-west, and south I'm not from either of those places.You keep changing you theory.Was it done by the progressive era (I provided evidence against that theory), the 30's (I provided evidence against that theory), or the 60's which makes no sense as I have proven.Have you ever heard of demographics?
vtc193 16 hours ago
If this shocks or surprises you than you desperately need to re-educate yourself in American history. Or at least learn about the "Soild South".
PoopBaker 1 month ago
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I would say as a good start a "Real Black Man" NOT be 50% caucasian like the Failed NOBAMA...no wonder he turned into such a sell-out for those White Communist Democrat Devils. Black folk are not COMMUNISTS...my God, that's who these people are; they've said so, and they are attempting to enslave all of us with their promises of East Street. They are USING YOU! White Communist Democrats don't love you! WAKE UP!!!
RETROPOPS69 2 months ago
Let's list the rest of the republicans who want slavery back, only claimed Obama wasn't from here because he's part black, are constantly trying to push their religion on others, take away rights and twist science. Many conservatives are bible thumping idiots that hate muslims and atheists forgetting that MLK appointed secularists to his staff.
clipsryan 2 months ago
@hovo903 I never said your side is not diverse, but there's more to people than the color of their skin. As a matter of fact I do watch MSNBC quite often to see what kind of lunacy will come out of that trap of Rachel Maddow, or Ed Schultz. I always found what Olberman had to say entertaining also until he got fired yet agian. Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Dennis Prager, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck--none of them are birthers; They've all discredited the idea.
jonnyg28 2 months ago
Times have Changed it does that.
Dannosuke25 2 months ago
The Republican National Committee's health insurance plan covers elective abortion - a procedure the party's own platform calls "a fundamental assault on innocent human life."
Federal Election Commission Records show the RNC purchases its insurance from Cigna. Two sales agents for the company said that the RNC's policy covers elective abortion.
So tell me again - how is it acceptable for a political party to lobby against a policy they themselves employ?
freein2339 3 months ago
Actually these people aren't Republicans. During their time Republican party and Democratic party were called different things. If most of them lived now they'd by called liberals.
autismawareness11 3 months ago
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IF YOU REALLY WANT RADICAL CHANGE DURING YOUR LIFETIME,
VOTE FOR BACHMAN, she'll implode the Repugnat Party!!!
yourtreat2 3 months ago
@hovo903 I like the libtard mind: sprinkle in a little color and now your good people. As a minority I take offense to all the diversity claims. You idiots always want to put people into boxes: Women, minorities, gays. You proved it by putting ALL CONSERVATIVES int one group."Diversity" is just a way of saying I just want you around for your appearance, I don't want to know anything about you. I'm not a birther, I don't think he's musilm, RADICAL ISLAM IS bad, and unions have destroyed industry
jonnyg28 3 months ago
@hovo903 hovo903=unoriginal dip shit that can't think of a good argument! :))
jonnyg28 3 months ago
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In TODAY'S Rasmussen Poll, in a head-to-head match up...
Herman Cain 43%... Barack Insane Obama 41%
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Herman "The Hermanator" Cain for President of the U.S.A. 2012!!!
SokemRokemRobot 3 months ago
As a matter of fact I have a special name for both parties.
Repugnantcans and Demorats
paconot 3 months ago
WTF. Why can't they just be republicans? I never see meet the democrats and show a roll call of blacks...what in the hell is this nonsense. That is why I am independent and stray away from both herds.
paconot 3 months ago
@paconot they're making te point because Democrats and the media like to pretend Dem.s own blacks.
kellymmmbop 3 months ago
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Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote in his autobiography:
"The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism."
That was his description of the 1964 Republican National Convention. He also referred to the Republican convention as "the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right."
freein2339 3 months ago
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freein2339 3 months ago
Im so sick of people claimin MLK Jr and Jackie Robinson was a republican when he wasnt and has said so himself. Don King and Denzel are extremely rich and benefit greatly from right wing tax cuts for rich people that they pocket. Douglas was liberal and there is no proof Harriet Tubman was a republican. This is just another video making racist feel okay with their racism.
TheCaliCapitalist 4 months ago
@TheCaliCapitalist You are the racist, dumb ass.
TheDukeljk 3 months ago
@TheDukeljk lol just like a liberal, call someone a fucking racist when race was not brought into the subject. the liberals ultimate shield is racism! whenever they cant disprove someone about anything, that person must be a racist! you dont like ketchup?? your a damn racist!
NHusic83 3 months ago
@TheCaliCapitalist - another liberal who DOESN"T like facts. MLK WAS A REPUBLICAN! IDIOT!
BGBlake01 3 months ago
@BGBlake01
MLK was not a conservative nor was he a republican. In 1958 he gave an interview were he states that he is not republican or democrat. There is no proof that he was republican or belong to any politcal party. In his own autobiography he speaks out against the republican along with Barry Goldwater and Ronal Reagan. There is this sad and lame attempt by the right wing to reclaim the civil rights movement. A movement they had nothing to do with its success.
TheCaliCapitalist 3 months ago
@TheCaliCapitalist maybe e wasn't always one, or maybe he didn't want to bring "party"into it. is children have stated e was. Don't forget he criticized some dem.s too. The only reason this video was made is because Dems and the media have convinced so many people that they're for blacks and reb are all white racist. when in fact Reb for the most part are the ones who passed the civil rights bill, and freed the slaves, wile most dems fought against both.
kellymmmbop 3 months ago
@TheCaliCapitalist how can this be racist?? this is a republican being PROUD that these black people were republican. what is wrong with you? there goes the liberal racist shield. many black people realize that democrats have many more racists then republicans. people that are the first to shout racism to other people are more times the racists themselves.
NHusic83 3 months ago
@TheCaliCapitalist well I assume Tubman, wasn't in favor of Democrats, because they were the party for slavery, maybe she was neither, but I'm just saying.
kellymmmbop 3 months ago
With MLK and Fredrick Douglas,and tubman What a lot of peoplr fail to realize is that back then the Republican and Democratic parties were basically the opposite of what they are today. People who are democrats now wouldve probably been republican and vice versa. I wouldve been a southern democrat if i lived in the 1800's but im a conservative republican now so its really not that fair of an analysis.
rebulun 4 months ago
Whites want to tell themselves "hey I'm not racist because I never discriminated against black people" but in reality while you stand idley by and watch TeaParty activists/Birthers/Aryan Nation Militas etc run crazy and say nothing. Guess What! you're what's known as "Co-dependant Enablers" Kind of like the parents of drug addicts on that Intervention TV show. You know your fellow white Birther/Te Partier is straight racist but yet you say and do nothing accept justifying their evil behavior.
gorillafix 4 months ago
@gorillafix
actually it is you that allows racist pieces of shit like the New Black Panther party to speak on Martin Luther King's birthday celebrations and the anniversary to his "I have a dream" speech in events organized by Al Sharpton, while trying to make it illegal for Beck to have regular people remember King and use his charisma to actually help bring people together.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf Wow you're an idiot. New Black Panther Party is NOT racist first of all. White people spoon feed you that shit to again justify their actual racist groups like the KKK. NBPP is a defense and enpowerment organization. Research them and you'll find BP's and the KKK have two entirely different agendas - its comparing apples and oranges.I agree that Glenn Beck's crazy ass should not be allowed anywhere around the Martin Luther King Celebration. Beck is a HUGE racist opportunistic asshole.
gorillafix 4 months ago
@gorillafix
actually I would argue that the KKK has radically changed to more combat the demographic problems in white communities than going after blacks and Catholics, they ARE still going after Jews because Jews DO control a lot of the west.
Meanwhile the new black panthers were attacked by the old black panthers(many of whom truly were racist decades ago, but changed a bit)as 'racists' and 'anti semites'
ptbwf 4 months ago
RACISM is not a partisan issue idiots. WHITE people hate BLACK people period. Always have and always will. Whether they're Republicans or Democrate holds absolutely no relevance whatsoever. ALL the whites stood together while watching black men get lynched. Todays Whites will grab any tidbit of bullshit information twist it, then try to use it to justy their racism,...It's hilarious really. This video is stupid and fuck you all.
gorillafix 4 months ago
@gorillafix
You are a racist asshole, just admit it and be done with it.
You also don't know shit about any historical period of the US, so just shut up.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf Haha you're making me laugh outloud seriously. You obviously have a weak ass argument to claim I don't have a grasp on U.S. history. Newsflash grasshopper I'm the most dangerous type of black man. I have a college degree, I'm well read and I can crush any argument you present. So you have asbolutely no chance in debating me. I love educating crazy racist white people I really do. Oh I'll drop another bomb on you: Black people in the THIS country cannot be racist. its an oximoron.
gorillafix 4 months ago
@gorillafix
you can't crush crap, and you can't spell worth crap(which is not part of my argument, but I am a spelling nazi so I can't stand so called educated people misspelling words in a day and age when you have auto spellcheck and countless sources that tell you how to spell the words you use), you also have no idea what the ACTUAL definition of racism is.
so no, a racist black person in this country isn't a oxYmoron.
ptbwf 4 months ago
What a stupid video. Everyone knows the parties switched sides over time.
SpearofDestiny0 4 months ago
@SpearofDestiny0
yeah, everyone who made up that bullshit in their minds.
The Democrats are even further to the left of yesterday's Republicans and today's Republicans are ALSO even further to the left than yesterday's Republicans.
Today's Republicans would be Communists to these people, much less the Democrats.
ptbwf 4 months ago
Let's be honest, the modern GOP is in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM what it was decades ago. BOTH parties are full of shit.
kemoblue4u 4 months ago
im a conservative but i seriously doubt my dream follows the conservative way... a Canadian slave in every home... eh? :D
LegoWorldCrisis 4 months ago
wow, you have to be an idiot to think that frederick douglas, harriet tubman, and mlk would still be republican today
ThePatcam 4 months ago
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@ThePatcam No, you'd have to be an idiot to think any of them would be a democrat. Truth be told, and this is really going to piss liberals off, is that if they were alive today, they would be heading a new political party that would stem from the Tea Party platform.
JustBecauseTheySaySo 4 months ago
@ThePatcam
of course, because everyone knows that they would want to vote for a party that wants a repressive govt which limits the amount of success they can have.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf yes, that is what the party line says about democrats, but in the real world, republicans are pro-corporate, anti-social spending, and very unpopular with minorities. there's a reason why 90% of blacks vote democrat.
ThePatcam 4 months ago
@ThePatcam Why is that?
jonnyg28 2 months ago
@jonnyg28 because historically republicans are primarily concerned with business interests, while democrats have closer ties to communities and the like. conservatives like to dress it up with vague talk about "success" and "freedom", but they're really just serving their constituencies, while democrats try to help the middle class and the poor more. blacks are poorer then whites, so they rally around democratic candidates.
ThePatcam 2 months ago
@ThePatcam HELP THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS?,hmmm,lets see food stamps,public housing,over $30,000,000 to planned parenthood(helping kill black baby's)the spreading of a communist,muslim,gay agenda(van jones,rom emanuel,mao-ist's in bama's cabinet wow this sure helps the poor and middle class huh?fact:the dems are slave masters who keep coloreds in there place with pimps like al sharpcon and jesse jackson,michael dyson,henry gates and that other fool who still sports an afro.wake up
godschild928 1 month ago
@godschild928 When are you ever going to get off the plantation..??..The GOP does not care about the middle class...Can you provide any proof that they do...???..I bet you still worship a white Jesus...ain;t that right "step-n-fetch-it"....
freein2339 1 month ago
@freein2339 lollllll,step n fetchit,wow is that all you have?,too bad your such a simpleton you don't even know that ol step's boss's were democrat studio owners,LETS GO TO SCHOOL,SINCE YOUR TOO SIMPLE TO DO THE RESEARCH,LOL,MLK,was a socialist commie who took fannie lou on the road with him,while his wife and kids sat at home,he was no man of God!,W.E.B believed in eugenics and just like MLK,received a margarath sanger award read there writings do the research cause name callin wont do it
godschild928 1 month ago
The definition of "Republican" changed when FDR was elected. Yes, it's true the KKK was Democrat affiliated but now they are republican affiliated. Why? Because Republican & Democrat are just names. It’s the principle in which stands behind it that identifies "republican" or "democrat" Republicans are conservative & are now the democrats are liberal. If you look at the comments on many political YouTube videos you will find that many republicans or Obama haters are indeed racist, they admit it.
narutospearman 4 months ago
@narutospearman
You are an idiot.
The only reason why KKK members are now mostly Republicans is because the Democrats actually support blatantly racist minority groups, Republicans don't support the KKK they just generally leave them alone.
To say that Democrats are Liberal(in the classic and only real sense)is an injustice to the word, Democrats will use anyone and anything to get more power, that is not what the "progressive" Republican party did.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf There aren’t' any “racist minority groups". Don't say something stupid in response like "The black panthers" or "Malcolm X" or "George Lopez". You see, Racist like your self have this one hidden fear that they all share. They believe that Black people have this goal to kill White people. Racist feel guilty of the 400 years of slavery and rape, and they think we want some revenge. Parents instilled these ideas into their children, and now with Obama...Well they think he wants to kill.
narutospearman 2 months ago
@narutospearman
You are an absolute imbecile.
You don't know what the definition of racism is and you honestly believe there aren't literally millions of black people who want to wipe white people off the globe, I KNOW there are.
There are hundreds of black supremacist sites with 1000's of members each who constantly relay this type of thinking.
ptbwf 2 months ago
Name me three. Unless you are bluffing your facts send me a personal message with three "black supremacist sites with 1000's of members..." I want to be informed of these "Evil, racist blacks". There was only 1 Black Supremacy organization, & that was under Elijah Muhammad, they called them selves the "black Muslims" And yes indeed, they were just as ignorant as the KKK. Now they call them selves something different, he is dead & they are no longer racist. So what are you talking about? @ptbwf
narutospearman 2 months ago
@ptbwf Well duh. Look at what whites did and still do to them. I don't condone it but whites aren't really helping the matter voting for racist ignorant jackasses who believe in a book that condones the very act whites forced on blacks.
clipsryan 2 months ago
@narutospearman I hate Obama's policies--I'm not a racist. The Obama haters that claim to be racist on youtube do not represent the majority of people that disagree with Obama's ploicies.
jonnyg28 2 months ago
@jonnyg28 You and individuals like your self expect Obama to do the works of God. Humans are so selfish and inconsiderate. I hope it is understood that Obama was elected in to an Eight year debt caused by George W Bush. Obama is expected to just magically make the country rich in three moths? Even a year? No! Maybe, just maybe if these Republicans whose only goal is it gets rid of Obama at any cost, to "restore" the country to "Pure" & "White" would corraperate then we would be farther along.
narutospearman 2 months ago
@narutospearman I actually don't expect him to do "God's work". I expect him to act like a President! To stop apologizing for us and bowing down to other world leaders. When are you libs going to stop blaming Bush. I don't like how he spent either! I said I have issues with his policies: out of control spending, growth of govt, Obamacare, over-regulation, etc. I don't like our country in the hands of a Marxist who acts like the leader of some banana republic.
jonnyg28 2 months ago
you assholes can tell yourselves todays republican is somehow the same as yesterdays congrassional republican if you want but youre simply lying to yourselves. You are delusional and this attempt to justify right wing hatred and overt racism is pretty weak. By your logic your saying Denzel and MLK would be Tea Partiers and Birthers today - stupid.
gorillafix 4 months ago
@gorillafix Denzel and MLK would be birthers & Tea Partiers today?! how did you get that out of what you just saw??
1971Goldtop 4 months ago
@1971Goldtop What? Nevermind you're an idiot. Just read my comment again this time reeeaallly slowly ok? thanks
gorillafix 4 months ago
@gorillafix no thanks, once was more than enough. and you can read this part real slowly - say goodbye to your socialist, facist, communist friend and all his incompetent buddies next November - idiot! MWAH HA HA, we are all gonna party non-stop straight through inauguration day. WOOHOO!!
1971Goldtop 4 months ago
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@gorillafix no thanks, once was more than enough. and you can read this part real slowly - say goodbye to your socialist, facist, communist friend and all his incompetent buddies next November - idiot! MWAH HA HA, we are all gonna party non-stop straight through inauguration day. WOOHOO!!
1971Goldtop 4 months ago
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@gorillafix no thanks, once was more than enough. and you can read this part real slowly - say goodbye to your socialist, facist, communist friend and all his incompetent buddies next November - idiot! MWAH HA HA, we are all gonna party (Tea Party that is) non-stop, straight through inauguration day. WOOHOO!!
1971Goldtop 4 months ago
A well balanced individual does himself or herself a great disservice when they indentify themselves as anything other than a well balanced person. Well balanced people will have views, values and ideologies that are conservative, liberal and yes indepent of any political or religious group.
sunofabishop 4 months ago
To clarify a bit, the common ideals of the Republican and Democrat parties changed immensely following the time period many of these names supported said party. For example, if Abraham Lincoln were alive today, he would most likely run as a Democrat. But really, party lines are a ridiculous element of the current political format. Pick the candidate you agree with the most, rather than turn it into a black and white power struggle.
Nate2764 5 months ago
@Nate2764
So Lincoln would be for a govt run health care system?
He wasn't even for public schools.
Learn some damn history.
Lincoln was a VERY radical Conservative by today's standards.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf Find me a quote on that one. I've been studying Lincoln since I was a child, and it's an insult to the man to even compare him to a radical Conservative of the modern age. In all honesty, I think he would be ashamed of politics in general today, for many reasons.
Nate2764 4 months ago
"Republican: Freer of Slaves" That's Funny. Got any more good jokes?
OQUENDO1968 5 months ago
The Republican party of that day is a lot different of the Republican party today. Just as well as the Democrats. I do not feel that it should be noted that one party freed the slaves or gave rights to all people, like the Democrats actually did during the time of Dr. King. We misrepresent things, political parties are made up factions of humans. We believe not by colors but by heart. Just show me one African-American, presently, that sits with the GOP, not many! Good informative post!! :-)
iamrawtocool 5 months ago
@iamrawtocool Good post! This video is very slick. It is an ongoing thing for republicans to not mention the change of the party upon the civil rights and voting rights bills being passed in the 1960s. The only one that would have likely stayed with or agreed with the GOP is Washington and that explains why other than praising the boys club, he does little else.
REASONINFUSION 5 months ago
@REASONINFUSION No, I was not speaking in reference to anything the GOP is trying to do. I called it a good post solely on the bounds that many people do not know that these men were Republicans. This shows how the Republican party has changed. At one time they were the part of the people, but now they are only the party of the a few. There are not many prominent African-Americans who are Republicans, but a few. King would not be a Republican if he was alive today and many of the others.
iamrawtocool 5 months ago
@iamrawtocool The Republican party contrasts so much from the democrats (in most spots) I would have thought just out of couriosity people would know more! I read Ayn Rand out of couriosity! Concluded she was "full of it" and a sick chick, but read her so I could conclude with some accuracy.
REASONINFUSION 5 months ago
@REASONINFUSION I love all the Objective qualifications i'm seeing here. Not from you, but these people who are saying "Democrats continue to separate races even further" and "Democrat = true racist" and these people have the most likes! Look, no one is simply anything; its individuals who are racist, individuals who are biggots, not a single party like the Democrats OR the Republicans. "When you label me, you negate me" Soren Kierkegaard. But I suppose ignorance is not only bliss, but easier.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres I agree that no one is simply everything, but I will Have to borrow from Bill Mahre here with his line, "Being Republican doesn't make you a racist, but if you are a racist, you are most likely a republican". It has always been my point that KKK members, skinheads and other assorted bigots do vote and they do not vote democrat. It is also fair to say that a few fringe groups are black and they do not vote at all in general. "Black" GOPers, uncletoms. But that is just my opinion lol.
REASONINFUSION 5 months ago
@REASONINFUSION No thats true and a good point, but I always believe that there are exceptions to the rule. Its not fair, both to the idea and the individual involved, to say someone is purely anything just for an ideal they follow. But I suppose thats just my opinion as well.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres For sure No one is just one thought or belief, but, and check this out for yourself, many beliefs serve as "pillars" for other beliefs. For example if I believe someone is stupid by nature, I will likely also believe further education is a waste, they are better doing the most simple work, their children will be stupid, their mate is stupid, all that look like them is stupid and on and on. That is the danger of some thoughts. Others because of it tend to exist A priori.
REASONINFUSION 5 months ago
@REASONINFUSION Yeah the "pillars concept" can be helpful in explaining a personality, but a slippery slope mindset is something I think we should avoid. Like well since this white male is racist all others are racist. But I don't believe to many people are stupid by nature, I think they just chose to play the idiot for some psychological reason, but yeah higher education is unfortunantly a waste on them as well. But we have to remember it's our opinion that their stupid.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres Yes, it is "our opinion" that they are stupid as beliefs are opinions only some more valid than others, the closer it comes to being factually correct. The syllogism of "he is of them and they are ...therefore" should be done away with, but that is different from knowing by virtue of a definition that one belief automatically assumes another. I agree that not many people are stupid by nature, in fact I would say I do not know of any .
REASONINFUSION 5 months ago
@REASONINFUSION Yeah, I can agree that the only way people's opinions are more valid then others is if they can be proven to be more factually correct. Yeah the thing about some people is that they hide their true intentions and methods so we don't really know what to think about most people. Hell I do it a lot. Nowadays it is hard to tell who is legitimately dumb because it's becoming popular to act like idiots, or be inauthentic, if you will :D
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres True.
REASONINFUSION 5 months ago
@forttrres 2) It is my opinion that no matter how stupid a person may appear, you can't really know they are unless you know their stated goals are not inline with their method of going about achieving them. Even then a better choices of words would do better.
REASONINFUSION 5 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
too bad there are thousands upon thousands of supremacist minority members who vote Democrat...
The New Black Panther party is mostly Democrats, as are the Brown Berets, the rest are included in the so called "middle"(independents)who vote Democrat or Green party every time.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf Stop it!!!! The new black panthers DON'T VOTE!!! The same goes for the NOI. Listen and listen good! Not one black group in any way can change the life of the advantaged white and you know it!!!! They will not interview you for a job, make any law you have to live by or determine interest rates! White bigotry remains the most powerful force in america! If I called a white person "cracker" all day the most it would do is hurt his feelings if that! Enough with the bullshit!
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
and you know the NBPP doesn't vote how exactly?
Actually the NAACP(and many other groups like the National Urban League and Housing for Urban Development)have a hand and a say in almost any law to make sure the law specifically benefits or doesn't discriminate against blacks, far more power than any group that claims it is trying to benefit whites, not to mention the many racist black mayors we have in this country and the racist city council members.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf I know the NBPP and the NOI do not vote because I know them well! As for "benefits" every law prior to 1968 was for whites! The homestead act underwrote billions in loans for houses and 98% went to whites! The GI bill was denied black soldiers for the first 15 years and whites purchased houses! Your SUPREME COURT said "no black man has any rights a white man need respect". "Racist" mayors???? NOT ONE BLACK MAN OR GROUP HAS THE POWER TO MAKE YOUR WHITE LIFE DIFFICULT SO CUT THE BULLSHIT!
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
of course you know them well, you are one of them.
What about Section 8 housing TODAY, which is benefiting almost exclusively non white people to get into higher end neighborhoods with no actual wealth?
Your arguments would have struggled against mine in 1970, much less in 2011, where I can murder every single talking point you think you have with simple figures.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf From the "founding" of a nation that was built on white supremacy to 1968 every government policy was to keep non-white from competing with whites! from the home stead act that gave 98% of home loans to whites only, to other policies you have been given an advantage that no policies of the last 40 years can undo. You talk of section 8, but you have no problem with whites having been giving 98% of home loans that allowed them to create wealth! That is typical.
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
again, section 8 housing is the REVERSE of the homestead act so your argument is completely nullified.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf Again you have proven to be a fool and a poor rep of white "intelligence"! 1) NO AMOUNT OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS IMPLEMENTED IN THE LAST 40 YEARS CAN MAKE UP FOR THE MILLIONS OF ACRES STOLEN AND GIVEN TO YOUR PEOPLE! 2) NO AMOUNT OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS CAN MAKE UP FOR THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS GENERATED BY EXPORTS PRODUCED WITH FREE AND UNDERPAID BLACK LABOR! 3) SECTION 8 GIVES THE RIGHT TO RENT, THE HOMESTEAD ACT GAVE YOU WHITES THE RIGHT AND ADVANTAGE OF OWNERSHIP! You bore me!
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
and this is why blacks will never really be as smart as the most brilliant whites, you just can't bring yourself to think for one second that you are wrong about this, you will never let go of your victim status.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf "blacks will never really be as smart as the most brilliant whites" The record for the youngest people to pass college level math are twin Nigerian 8 year olds! What were you doing at 8??? In fact what was any one in your entire family doing at 8???? You whites must say what YOU HAVE DONE AND YOU ARE AVERAGE!!! YOU did not invent the light bulb! YOU did not invent the telephone! Next, You can only find meaning in your life by comparing your low self to the one group you killed for
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@ptbwf 2) You whites don't feel just a little silly comparing yourselves to the one group you used to beat and kill for learning 60 years ago????? Newsflash, YOUR RIVALS ARE OTHER NATIONS AND PEOPLE WHO HAD LITTLE TO NO BREAK IN ACADEMICS!!! COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO WERE FREE TO PROSPER, YOU ARE BEHIND IN ACADEMICS, TECHNOLOGY AND MORALITY! Asians and eastern indians have exposed you white for the frauds you are and always have been when you had to compete.
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@ptbwf 2) In a nation that says black people are livestock, in a nation where virtually every president publicly says blacks are inferior to whites, you have an advantage that you don't deserve and have never earned. You say you have numbers! I am here armed to the teeth with facts about your unearned privilege and I want you to give me you "facts" and numbers NOW. Lets go!!!!! If your people had any morality at all no programs would be needed for non-whites!
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@ptbwf 2) In a nation that says black people are livestock, in a nation where virtually every president publicly says blacks are inferior to whites, you have an advantage that you don't deserve and have never earned. You say you have numbers! I am here armed to the teeth with facts about your unearned privilege and I want you to give me you "facts" and numbers NOW. Lets go!!!!! If your people had any morality at all no programs would be needed for non-whites!
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@ptbwf 3) As for blacks being victims, You have benefited from living in the ONLY NATION TO HAVE AS A PART OF ITS CONSTITUTION A MEANS OF COUNTING HUMAN BEINGS AS LIVESTOCK!!! FROM 1619 TO 1968 YOUR PEOPLE CREATED LAWS THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR EDUCATION, BUSINESS, FAIR TRIALS, POLITICS, OR EMPLOYMENT TO BENEFIT BLACKS!!! From 1619 to 1968!!!!!!!! You whites have been the most morally bankrupt people on earth. 20 years after hitler you beat us for voting!!!!! We are victims and you are savage.
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@ptbwf 2) You will never have to go to any other than a white person for a job! You will never have to be arrested by anyone who thinks you are a criminal by nature! You will never have to be taught by a person who thinks you can't learn! You can talk that "victim" crap all you want, but you will never have to be at the mercy of any body other than your own savage group! Stop bitching and enjoy the land your people stole and murdered for your enjoyment.
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
on the contrary idiot, I now have a black boss that runs my department.
If I was trying to get employed in my department today, I would be in a interview with a white WOMAN who is using this black woman's criteria for an employee, not her own.
I was taught supposedly high level math by a black man who refused to stay on subject and instead decided to teach about why affirmative action was good, and consequently hundreds of young men now have no hope in having a future in math.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf You seem to resent working for a black boss so be a fucking man you piece of shit and quit or stop your fucking bitching! As for the "criteria" of hiring that is that of a black woman, we blacks have been having to meet the criteria of whites for 400 years from you trash looking up our asses to giving us tests in the effort to keep us out of the companies. For once you may have to be more than just white and your fucking ass is coming apart! Stop bitching and quit.
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
I didn't say I resented working for a black boss, I haven't even interacted with her yet, I was just giving you the FACTS about how desperately wrong you are on this.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
I didn't say I resented working for a black boss, I haven't even interacted with her yet, I was just giving you the FACTS about how desperately wrong you are on this.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf You complained about the criteria of a BLACK WOMAN! That showed that you resented the criteria!
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
no dumbass, I was saying she was clearly in charge of my department so you couldn't just say my store manager pulled the strings, because he doesn't.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf 2) If a black man was "suppose" to teach you "high level" math it is because he was qualified to teach it! If he chose to speak on other things that is his business. Newsflash white boy, If you had to be in that black mans class you obviously did not know how to do it!!! Get off your fashioned sense of superiority and lift your white trash ass up! Oh, since George w Bush butchered the english language thousands of dumb whites think it is okay to be stupid!
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
sorry, but again your pathetic point was once again defeated by the fact that I did indeed have MULTIPLE black teachers all throughout my life, which your dumb ass claimed didn't happen.
If I am "white trash", you are black sewer sludge because you are lowest of low on the scale of intelligence.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf You use the old "lowest of low" on scale of intelligence! Here are the facts: 1) what does it say about you whites who can only compare yourselves to the ONE GROUP YOU WOULD KILL FOR LEARNING TO READ? Not even 50 years ago your government would not even allow black schools to purchase the same text books as white schools! Even after that, 15% of blacks (I am included) score higher than whites on IQ tests! 2) Black IQ has gone up every year since the end of segregation.
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
You have incredibly poor reading comprehension so your IQ must not be higher than anyone I know.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf 3) Your "intelligence" should be compared to GROUPS THAT HAD NO BREAK IN ACADEMICS!! WHEN YOU DO THAT, THE FACT IS YOU AMERICAN WHITES ARE BEHIND ASIANS, EASTERN INDIANS. AND WHITES FROM ABROAD! America is considered to be one of the dumbest nations on average and that is assumed by interviews with whites. Next, The record for the youngest to pass college level math is held by 8 year old NIGERIAN TWINS!!! HOW OLD WERE YOU OR ANYONE IN YOUR FAMILY WHEN THEY TOOK ADVANCED MATH! LOL
REASONINFUSION 4 months ago
@REASONINFUSION
other than a few examples of prodigies, the non white population is endlessly propped up in the media for accomplishing what used to be the standard for an advanced student in school.
American whites are smarter than every other white group besides Scandinavians, those interviewers are self hating dumbasses. America is actually dragged down by blacks and especially Hispanics. The smartest white people are as smart or smarter than the smartest people on the globe.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@iamrawtocool
When you are inferring here that the Democrats today are "the party of the people", I guess you mean that MOST white people aren't part of "the people", both in the south and the north.
Say racist shit about black people and you are a racist, say racist shit about white people and you are "the party of the people".
Liberals are just criminally undereducated.
ptbwf 4 months ago
Thanks for posting. The democrats have always been on the wrong side of history. What is funny, they use propoganda to fool the people and say the Republican party has changed. The sad thing is it is the Democrat party that has changed. The democrat party has moved so far to the left that I would consider them communists.
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 Well in that case, you could also make the same argument that the Republican Party has moved so far to the right that they can be considered by some to be Oligarchist's, or the extreme of Facists. The Democrats have changed, this is true, but could you honestly say that the Republican Party of today is the same as that in the 50s? Or even the 80s? Just my two sense.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres Actually the Republicans have moved further to the left. Look at Bush's TARP Bailout. TARP is not somthing the right would do. His attempt to create a democracy in every 3rd world country is somthing the left supports more than the true right. Spending us to extinction is a leftist move, and look at what the Republicans did in early to mid-2000's. The problem is the far left has just moved us closer to colapse and has done it much quicker. Republicans are not racists as they say.
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 Well, given Bush's pro-big business mentallity, I wouldn't call it to far fetched. And given the actions and ideals of the Tea Party, which is gaining huge momentum, all of which label themselves Republican, i'd this New Right pretty right. Attempts at Democracy would be great if that were his real motivations and if it actually ended up happening. When we didn't interfere many countries of late have been gaining their freedoms, not only without our help, but demanding we DON'T.
forttrres 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 How exactly has the far left moved us closer to collapse and has done it much quicker? 8 years of dwindling government regulation, a very Republican move, would have moved us toward that pretty fast. Also the fact during this time we ended up spending money on wars. Turning the small surplus we had into a huge debt to pass on to the next president isn't exactly a pro move either. But I can agree not all Republicans are racists, its unfair to objectively qualify an entire group.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres Obama's stimulus, passed in his first month in office, will cost more than the entire Iraq War -- more than $100 billion (15%) more.
* Just the first two years of Obama's stimulus cost more than the entire cost of the Iraq War under President Bush, or six years of that war.
Read more at the Washington Examiner:
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@forttrres Iraq War spending accounted for just 3.2% of all federal spending while it lasted.
* Iraq War spending was not even one quarter of what we spent on Medicare in the same time frame.
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@forttrres Iraq War spending was not even 15% of the total deficit spending in that time frame. The cumulative deficit, 2003-2010, would have been four-point-something trillion dollars with or without the Iraq War.
Read more at the Washington Examiner:
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@forttrres The Iraq War accounts for less than 8% of the federal debt held by the public at the end of 2010 ($9.031 trillion).
During Bush's Iraq years, 2003-2008, the federal government spent more on education that it did on the Iraq War. (State and local governments spent about ten times more.)
Read more at the Washington Examiner
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@forttrres The fact that the democrats passed so much spending and never read the bills shows the irresponsible behavior. Obama said that the Cap and Trade would make energy prices sky rocket. I don't think we have seen the full affect of that yet. Obama single handedly spent more than all presidents up and through Regan. The republicans had their hand in it too, but the spending sky rocketed with Obama, and all he has done has made the economy worse off. Look at the numbers.
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 Who says they never read the bill? If I remember, Hermain Cain wanted bills to be passed short so they wouldn't have to spend so much time reading them. I'll take deficit spending though. Especially medicare. These bennefits ensure that the money we have isn't spent on constant healthcare bills and we can spend the money we have to stimulate the economy. But if we also wanted to cut down on our debt, we should start by reversing the Bush era tax cuts on the rich.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres The Feds have printed money (Quantitative Easing) twice since Obama has taken office. They are about to do it for the third time. This will lead to massive inflation. The US dollar is used as the worlds currency, but how long will that last. We can't pay our debt, once that happens, as it did in the UK in 1967, we will lose that status. We don't produce, we only consume. That is both Dems and Republicans fault. We may see the collapse of the US dollar within the next year.
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 The problem with the argument about England in 1967 is that they also inherited a huge deficit of 800million, huge for their time obviously, from the conservative party 3 years prior. It seemed between that or taking out huge loans from foreign countries, like, I suppose, China. Yeah I won't disagree, both Democrats and Republicans can equally share the blame for this. Its neither side's fault, but I will put a lot of the blame for a lack of government regulation for 8 years.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres Actually the debt was acumulated from WWII. The US bailed them out after WWII. The Labor Party atempted to fix the problem through a socialist program (that Obama is using) called redistribution of wealth. It in turn caused inflation to increast by 13% overnight. While I agree that our debt problem is caused by both parties. I disagree about regulation. Regs have restricted business. The government needs to get out of the way. Business can't invest due to regs, why would they?
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 England received huge support from the Marshall Plan, and was at the point where they refused aid from the plan by 1950, as there were forms of success in other parts of the economy. But there has to be an equal distribution of the wealth, or literally as close as we can get it. There has got to be a proper consumer base for these products, and with people spending money on healthcare or putting every penny they have toward retirement, what person is going to stimulate an economy?
forttrres 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 But without proper government regulation, the economy and living standards fall into disarray. The 1920s and the Guilded Age being 2 prime examples. And with absolutely no form of government regulation, workers have even less rights then they do, the poverty gap rises, as does the nation's economic inequality, monopolies form which put strangleholds on markets, previous states have proven this. There has to be a form of balance between Business and State in a Capitalistic society.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres Coomon sense approach is good. Such as right for workers etc. However, when we start talking about affirmative action (bad thing), or regulations that restrict business from growing then that is not good. The EPA energy regulations (some may say is good) but the agenda behind it is to spread the wealth to under established nations. The point is - we can't have regulations that put the boots on the necks of business, especially in a time of 9.2% unemployment.
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 We're never putting the boots on the necks of business. Tax rates are at the lowest they have been since, I read somewhere, the Eisenhower era. These taxes that people are arguing for wouldn't hinder the business growth. Hell most of them get a source of cheap labor outside the US. Business Taxes nowadays arn't even close to how they were in the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, or even Regan. What regulations proposed would restrict business from growing to the point of no profit?
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres We are putting the boots on the American Business - and the taxes may be low, but how are we going to compete in a global market when there are other countries not taxing at all? How are we going to compete when our regulations will put them out of business, they will move where they can compete in the world. I would not start a business here because it would not be profitable. It is a joke, the regualations are so confusing now who would want to start a business here?
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 With the high corporate tax rates, 91% for Eisenhower, 70% during Nixon, and even the 50% during Reagan, of all people. Reagan also raised the public debt from around 711billion to about 2,051 trillion, as he was a fan of spending without raising taxes. People will always want to start business. It's the idea drilled into the youth at an early age, that idea of the "American Dream" of having your own business. People will always want their own business, and regulations will help.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres I have now been out of work for four years. I don't even know if I am employable at this point in time. Even though I am nearly half way done with a Master's degree. I worked for the Federal Government for about 8 months, but because I was not a minority and the fact that I am not a homosexual, I lost my job. Even though I am more than qualified, my social status in society made me an easy target. Regulations such as these don't make sense. What is good for one should be good for all
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 I can agree to that. Its not fair to up and throw you out a job your more then qualified for just because of affirmative action. I was never aware that they could actually do that when you actually had the job. But if you work for the Federal Government, those regulations, if they didn't have those regulations, couldn't they still fire you? Since I imagine the official report didn't claim affirmative actions.
forttrres 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 And the sad thing is, Regulations of the Rights of Workers wasn't, and probably still isn't, common sense to the higher ups. I mean look at the business practices these people do in third world countries, and the practices during the late 19th century, which only ended from government regulation. Arkansas was trying to repeal child labor laws. So its a hard thing to justify in my opinion.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres Again, a common sense approach. But regualations that are implimented that stifle business growth, or puts people out of work, redistrubtes the wealth, or puts money in a corupt politicians pockets is wrong. For example, regualations that limits drilling in our own country due to some criteria then selling our goods to a third world country when that will go well beyond our safety regulation is bad. It put people out of work, and harms the country.
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 How is that wrong? Business regulations are not set in place simply to fuck over profit. Most of the time they are implemented for security for the workers, as they should, or to stifle short term profits, most of which miniscule, and to keep long term stability. So these recessions don't happen that often. Most of these regulations for drilling are because of the environment, and in my opinion, rightly so.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres If regulations are so good then why is half the country out of work? Obama has put the boots on the necks of corporations. Obama may be well intentioned, but his spread the wealth mentality is failing. It is making us all poorer, and making the economy much worse. I remember the boom years with Reagan. He lowered taxes and stabilized the economy by getting out of the way. Complicating and controlling organizations through regulation makes doing business more difficult.
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 Well half the country isn't out of work. Right before the Great Depression we had low corporate tax rates, as well as almost every other recession. If these other countries arn't taxing at all, look at where it got them. Most of South America has HUGE gaps in wealth equality, and living conditions there are not even comparable to the United States. While socialist countries have some of the best living conditions in the world.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres What kills me - these regulations that protect the rights of workers have made organizations pay workers with a 6th grade education $40.00 dollars an hour, when people with an actual degree are averaging $30.00 an hour, all because the worker belongs to some uniion. The organization can no longer afford to pay a high school drop out $40.00 an hour, so they leave the country. Then the worker with the 6th grade education has no skills other than bulting on some fender all day long.
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 How many corporations are forced to pay a person with a 6th grade $40.00 an hour? What unions demand such high benefits?? Because if someone is being paid $40 an hour, the job has to have a specific skill set, or to set a specific kind of person. And if their being paid more then you and you have more skill, why try to get employed there? There are many of these idealistic ideas, but I don't see to many actually in effect.
forttrres 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 Also, if business is to confusing to someone, that person should not be running their own business. If they tried to start one it would fail pretty fast, and since there will always be regulation of some kind, which if they can't follow or bother trying to get help to try to follow it, they have no business trying to run a business properly. Thats like trying to pull someone off the street and have them work in astro-physics. Nothing worth having ever comes easy.
forttrres 5 months ago
@forttrres Listen - it was nice debating you; however, you idea of success for America is big government. I would assume that this ideology is coming from you leftist professors who have never ran a business. That is okay, I will never convince you and you will never convince me. Good luck and thanks for being respectful.
SilverFox466 5 months ago
@SilverFox466 No problem bro, but my ideology comes from independent study i've done, given interest in the topic. I haven't actually had any leftist professors... I've just started college. But thank you for being respectful as well, good luck to you to. And my ideal government is one that hasn't happened since the 1930's in Europe haha but I work with what we have. Good luck to you.
forttrres 4 months ago
MLK's views are democratic in today's US. He was against war. I believe that his stance against the Vietnam War is what ultimately cost him his life. They claim James Earl Ray killed. I know from my studies, that confessions are not always accurate. He was never given a trial. The shot that hit MLK was a professional shot, and prisoners in jail are not professional criminals. MLK was killed because he was a threat. He brought people of all races together against the government corruption
jaquelineandrews 5 months ago
This is a disgrace none of these poeple were ever republicans nice try whiteeeee. Stick to what you do best you racist basterds. We will never be republicans because are the devil children and are here to ruin america. Since back in office the have tryed to dismantal the government and cause unrest. They are threat to national security and will so have to be delt with. If you smart democrates better be prepared to put these dogs down.
40247 5 months ago
@40247 Open a history book and learn everything wrong with your statement. MLK was especially a republican, because he believed in equal rights but not a fucking race war like you want. You want a fucking race war eh? This isn't 1960, don't you see how the democrats are always the first ones to bring up race? Dude.. 20% more republicans voted for the civil rights act than DEMOCRATS did! The left has you brainwashed, republicans NEVER bring race into the issue until the dems do. Wake up.
LunarPoetry473 5 months ago
@LunarPoetry473 Before the 1970's-80's most Blacks were Republican.
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