The truth is that secret societies definitely do exist and that all the super successful people throughout history have been members of one.Most members do not reveal what they are taught. Within secret societies we are taught the true secrets to success that are not revealed to the masses. I know this because I am a member of a secret society called GIN. GIN is a private, by invitation only secret society.If you want to learn more,email at bhargavpatel60@yahoo.com or call me 404-324-2450 .
So im watching this and more and more am i convinced that the Illuminati are fake. Im tired of this conspiracy crap where is there grasp of the world because i have yet to see it i have yet to see there big influence on the world aside from secret messages idiots find in cartoons and in music lmao dam reptilian assholes there coming for us lets start worshiping bophamet lmao
"Freedom to say what they're thinking and not be held accountable for it" Every man or woman should be held accountable for what they believe in. If they fear what others would think and hide it then their motives are underhanded.
two things to say..... FUCK NEW WORLD ORDER.......and......... DONT FOLLOW ILLUMINATI!!! FOLLOW G.O.D. and you'll be okay..... and if you dont believe in God than hummm your loss...... its the only way to go..
Remember people, DO NOT get brainwashed by everything you view in youtube. Be more concerned with your family and friends. These childish games that we read about history make us eat it all and leaving us viewers with a stomach ache. Yes, it is important to know more about the world, but that does not mean we should use the information to control our lives.
@gushernandez25 YOU HAVE NO GUTS FOR THIS,AND THE CHILDISH GAME IS ON YOU ,YOU WILL BE PUNKED IF YOU KEEP TURNNING AWAY FROM THE TRUTH,BY MAKING SUCH AN EXCUSE,THIS IS NOT FOR WEAK / SENSITIVE PEOPLE,WATCH SOMETHING ELSE AND FORGET YOU EVER SAW THIS VIDEO,THEN AGAIN YOU MIGHT ONE OF THEM!
@1ITOPIA You speak like a brainwashed human. Why would the game be on me. At least I'm far more concerned with better things. Like drinking water, eating, sleeping, and working. Illuminati your shit. Trust me, your suggestion means nothing to me because this poor constructed group will perish with the almighty time. The tables will turn on their mockery and soon it will fall and end. Sorry, try you mess with someone else.
if you look at what research David Icke has done it becomes clear that something is not right in the rulers of the world and their domination over their society dating back all the way to the kings of Babylon if you think Icke's an idiot your blind,not physically but mentally I suggest you open your mind and do the research
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ppl in the usa thank god you grew brains and dont believe the whole evil lizard bull but the bush secret societies is real, just look at what happened everytime a bush gets to power, war, to take hold of some area where the usa or them, because they will sacrifice amricans just like iraquis for cash, the plan is to control every country, directly or with dictator, remenber chile, africa angola mozambique, irak afganishtan and so on, any more questions?
Folks...when the two presidential canditates are both members of a secret society named Skull and Bones..which worships death...both initiated in the same year..yet both on opposite ends of the political spectrum....we have a BIG problem! We have a ONE PARTY state masquerading as freedom and democracy. We have fake political parties, we have a major conspiracy on our hands! And..I mean..just because the media tells you anyone who talks about conspiracies is a kook, doesnt mean its not real.
This two party system does suck, I agree. We don't really "vote" because we have to choose between two people that many of us simply do not want.
See, my theory is this. The mere discussion of certain clandestine societies is ironic. You may know that they're there, but who they are, what they are, how many there are, and what they are trying to achieve are all unknown. That's what I consider clandestine.
I guess where I differ is the idea of a unified and covert dominating body. Now, there may be some like-minded individuals who get together and say "Hey, let's help each other out" and then exploit others. But clubs, rituals, initiations, and the most defining force? I'll pass. I think that the world is instead shaped mostly by an overtly dominating, selfish elite who seek to accrue more money and power through exploitation. It works, as long as the masses are content.
Have you been watching these videos? They are real, these rituals have even been caught on tape. Alex Jones sneaked into the Bohemian Grove club, and caught the ritual on tape! They dress up in black garments, and sacrifice a human in effigy to a big stone owl, which represents Moloch, a demon God who eats babies. They burn the body and say how theyre "burning their cares away" I guess its all in good fun. No, its all very sinister... you just CHOOSE not to believe it, well thats your mistake.
@mrscojoe I didnt want to believe it either, until I saw the video. I mean, they really do dress up and do these occult rituals, where they invoke demon Gods, and do mock human sacrifices. Its just an unbelievable thing, would you get together and do that with your friends? Why would they do that, unless they were darkly inclined. Good decent people wouldnt be into that stuff...I mean Skull and Bones is an order of death, they call themselves the Order of Death. I mean its sinister! Its real!
David Rockefeller, a major player in the financial world, a person who basically owns New York City...he wrote in his book "The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite is preferable to the national self-determination practiced in past centuries" in other words..an intellectual elite controlling the people is better than the people controlling themselves. They think youre stupid, ok, they dont think you can govern yourself. Its always been like that, I mean what planet do you live on!
Its funny seeing this would be skeptic simply denounce everything without so much as an explanation, hes just like "well yea there are secret societies, Skull and Bones, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, etc. and yea they get have among the most wealthiest and most powerful people in the whole world, and yea they get together and meet in secret and discuss global events..but there is no conspiracy, oh no, its a total misreading!" I mean God how can someone be so damn naive.
has anyone ever gotten mail from the group because i recently have and anyone who is serious please contact me and we can proceed about this situation because quite frankly im done with being ignorant about this matter. again please serious people only
Take all this with a grain of salt... Remember that this guy, David Icke, also believes that certain members of the illuminati morph into reptiles. Whoa! I'm disappointed with the History Channel as he's perhaps not a CREDIBLE person to interview for this very interesting topic of the illuminati.
I find it tremendously arrogant when someone assumes to know the true nature of their reality because they are spoon-fed a poisoned matrix. When you understand how extravagant the elite's methods are and just how diverse life on Earth is you'll come to the understanding that nothing is impossible. The Reptilian Theory has not been debunked and rarely goes properly debated. If you'd just take the time to read and stop saying "Whoa too crazy for me!" perhaps we could get somewhere.
@CashBackAtEbay What makes you think that reptiles dont control the world? You dont know as much an anyone else. For all you know its true. You can not prove its not. Have you looked into the Sumerians? Probably not...im assuming...the world being ruled by aliens is no crazier then Jesus being the son of God
there are way more deals struck on the golf course or the local gentlemens club than ever happens in a local lodge.people need to stop looking for others to blame and start taking responsibility for there own lives. its to easy to point the finger and blame others for your own failings than to get up off your backside and make a change in your own lives.
This isn't about successes or failures of individual lives, this is about Cheats Lies and dishonesty. The money they print is not real. You give them your gold and your hard work while they print money from thin air and give it back to you. This is about global scale of conscious awakening. This is about denial that you are having right now. This is about those in power are in power because people like you dont know whats going on.
Can somebody tell me how some intellectually extremely limited person such as (both) Bushes can become president of the US if it were not for some clandestine power plays supporting them. I even ask myself how somebody such as Bush junior is able to finish university (any university.... not to speak of the most prestigious universities of this world)
Yes I can tell you vinavon, ignorant people like us who do not get our selves involved in seeking the truth and do not listen to honest and sound leaders like JFK, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and todays leaders such as RON PAUL etc... If we the American people listen to these honest leaders then we wont have trouble illuminating people like Bush, Rothschild banking, Rockefeller bankers, JPMorgan, Bank of England, Henry Kissinger, Ben Bernanke and the rest of these scums.
I think it's an interesting subject, but honestly I think they get more interest in the secrecy part of it than anything. Wouldn't we all be surprised if they only met once a year to relax and play golf? :D
Vote NO in the lisbon treaty,Ireland voted NO and our goverment decided they would'nt take NO for an answer and are holding another referendum scaring people into voting yes,with false information and propaganda ,VOTE NO, KEEP CONTROL OF OUR OWN COUNTRY,NO TO FOREIGN OCCUPATION,NO TO THE REST OF EUROPE SHAPING OUR DESTINY!!!!ALL WE GET 0.8% OF THE VOTE,WHILE OTHER COUNTRIES GET HIGHER.IF WE ARE TO BE EQUAL IN THE EU ,WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE SAME VOTES!!!!
The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free, and open society, and we are, as a people, inherently, and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
We decided, long ago, that the dangers of excessive, and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts, far outweigh the dangers which are cited to justify it.
Just like here! this suppose to be the 5th richest country in the world but it doesnt feel like it,We pay 1st world taxes for a 3rd world service,It seems all they care out is people keeping there mouths shut & paying there taxes.
The whole point isnt that they WANT to take over the world, the point is that IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. The leaders of the world are members of these societies, as in Bilderberg. If they are ALREADY in control, what would there be to take over? They are only trying to consolidate their power, which is and has been in place for a long time. Don't believe it? Go back to grazin the pasture, and find the truth the hard way. Don't say that nobody ever told ya.
And David Icke is quite an idiot. It'd be obvious to anyone with common sense that an international body like the UN would have members learned in foreign relations. What would Icke rather have sent to the UN? School teachers and plumbers? This guy is a moron.
IKE is NO IDIOT, you are the IDIOT! do you think that School Teachers and plummers are the highest educated trades/skills?? what about a pannel made up of 2 of the best scientists, doctors, judges etc... why powerfull capatolists? John D Rockefeller supplied the Nazis with a chemical used in the gas that killed Millions of jews. without this chemical the nazi's wouldnt have beenable to kill all those jew and allied troops, this is documented FACT! do u think D Rockefeller should head up the CFR?
You can make all the conspiracy theories you want to explain why the world sucks, but ultimately your blame game is just a cop-out so you have to take no responsibility yourself.
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EXCUSE ME?? No conspiracy nut here, just facts my friend, pure DOCUMENTED FACTS. Following the German invasion of Poland in 1939, Standard Oil (John D Rockefeller) pledged to keep the merger with I.G. Farben going even if the U.S. entered the war. This ment the deaths of millions was exposed in 1942 by Sen. Harry Truman's investigating committee, and President Roosevelt took hundreds of legal measures during the war to stop the Standard-I.G. Farben cartel from supplying the enemy war machine.
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WITH OUT John D Rockefellers patented chemical derived from his Standard Oil Company of New Jersey (now called ``Exxon''). I. G Farben a Nazi under control of Hitler's 3rd reich and owner of I.G Farben Chemicals wouldnt have been able to make KYKLON B, the only agent that could carry the deadly gas used to kill millions of inocent jews and 100000's of allied troops THESE ARE FACTS MATE! NOT CONSPIRACY, now i have educated you on that, Do you think son of John D Rockefeller should head the CFR?
A true conspirator, who blames others for his/her dissatisfaction of life and changes the where the true focus should be.
Icke is an idiot, I said. Why? Because he's obviously "stumbled across something" because an international body is created and run by people learned in foreign relations? Fancy that!
You, too, can count yourself among the league of rambling idiots.
freecalamus, this guy is dick, i've seen him posting on conspiracy theory video's. take no notice of this idiot! I know what you are say is documented, and thats all we need to know! So mrs co jo can take her dick and stick it up her father tight duck hole.
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Consider yourself the enemy, or neutral. You wouldnt be worth a shit to any kind of revolution, so go back to your sheep like life of subservience. Fuckin pussy lol. You're a disgrace to freedom.
Fascist mindset: brand everyone that doesn't agree with us a coward and a traitor and declare them an enemy and destroy them.
I'm glad you count me an enemy to your way of thinking. I'm glad I'm a disgrace to your concept of freedom. I'm glad I would be worthless in your revolution. None of those are anything I would ever like to take part in, and I'm glad of that, too.
@mrscojoe What are you talking about, its not like they even keep it hidden anymore. They outright state yes we want a world government, havent you seen world leaders talk about world government all over the place? World leaders all over the world have talked of a "New World Order" I mean..I dont get you people, why cant you just admit the obvious, all this stuff is real. Life isnt as dull and boring as you think it is, there are grand schemes playing out on the world stage for control of YOU!
I am not saying that you are incorrect, but please cite these world leaders, and where I may read these alleged discussions. Secondly, I am not opposed to a world government, though the world is a long, long way off from that prospect.
Do some people clandestinely conspire to gain power and wealth? Absolutely. Are these domination conspiracies realized and multitudinous? Certainly not. Conversely, the world is not as exciting and as bleak as you think it is.
@mrscojoe Well you dont understand history. This is the norm ok. The "royal" families and aristocracies and elites have ALWAYS been like this, they always have been ruthless tyrants who want to suppress our freedom and expand their power to where they control the whole world. Its always been like this, why do you think America was even formed, because people all over the world were tired of these elites and their tyranny. Now people seem to think these elites just disappeared or turned good! NO!
Well, you didn't understand my post. I never contested the power elite theory. And you didn't cite these discussions as I had asked.
Ask yourself a question: could you imagine that you are wrong? Could you imagine that you are mistaken, and there is no malignant body out to clandestinely subjugate you? If you say "no", then there is nothing to be gained by talking to you; you are fossilized in your beliefs.
@mrscojoe No, fool. Im tired of this objectivity game, there is such thing as TRUTH. One of us is right and one of us is wrong..and YOU sir, are wrong. Of course there are elites, of course they have a plan to control the world, of course they stifle freedom and anyone who becomes a threat to them..I mean where have you been the last 50 years, sleeping under a bridge? The only reason you dont know is because you dont want to know...the info is there for anybody with a real thirst for knowledge.
You should try to express yourself in a less caustic and offensive way. Filling your statements with juveniles insults impugns your credibility.
Once again, you made the statement, not me. You must substantiate it, not me.
Again, you should read what I wrote, rather than argue against your version of what I said. Again, no one is arguing against an economic elite theory of power. However, you should read Robert Dahl's study of New Haven for some good counterpoints.
I am not arguing against what you have said thus far; an economic elite minority DOES rule over the majority. This is evident from simple observation. What I do disagree with is the claim of a perpetual and CLANDESTINE usurpation of power by "Illuminati" and similar conspirator groups.
If you knew about it, it wouldn't be too clandestine, now would it? Do you see the logical fallacy? With this in mind, your self-perceived infallibility is, in retrospect, quite ironic.
Well look..you try and talk all intelligent, but youre not that smart...thats pretty clear. The facts are the facts, and you can try and shy away from it or look for some scapegoat..."well yea theres an elite and they want to increase their power..but its just kind of a loose thing, and its kinda of just happening...no real conspiracy or motive behind it." You sir, are an idiot...I dont care how you try to talk. Go do some research then you might figure it out. Just unbelievable these people.
Once again, you are creating a fantasy argument and attacking something that was never said nor thought. It's pretty easy to argue against something that's imaginary, isn't it?
Again with the insults. If you want to convince me of something, why not try comporting yourself with some maturity? I am always open to new ideas, especially if I may be incorrect and learn the truth. If you're not trying to convince me, then why are you still commenting?
Oh stop being a little pussy, and take it. I said more than enough. Its your turn to provide something worthwhile, and not just denials and "show me the proof" you are a little kid, arent you? Im tired of dealing with you people..and its so sad because you pretend to be all smart and enlightened, when clearly its an act because you really dont know much at all. These are statements, these arent insults. Im calling it like I see it and I suggest getting out of your mind and embrace your heart.
I had stated yesterday that I do believe clandestine conspiracies for power do occur, naturally, but they were not "perpetual[...]multitudinous and realized".
I recognize that there are many issues with power, such as political family dynasties and political appointment based on a bank account rather than credentials. However, I think the people will recognize if a malignant state seeks to 'enslave' them, and they will ultimately prevail.
@mrscojoe Well we are recognizing it, no thanks to people like you, who tell people like us, that we are crazy. You are akin to the people in the pubs and halls, telling the revolutionary war fighters not to fight against the British, they werent so bad. People around the world were sick of monarchs and tyrants and oligarchs and bankers trying to control them, thats why America was formed! But all that doesnt exist, to people like you..it vanished! No it didnt, these families are STILL AROUND.
You know, I AM incensed that when I vote, I only realistically have a choice between two candidates. I don't like the fact that an oil industry spurns energy and transportation innovation to bolster the bottom line. I don't like the fact that a big wallet and white skin is akin to a get out of jail free card in most cases. I hate that and it needs to change. But as long as an overt economic elite dominate, what is a lowly citizen to do?
@mrscojoe I mean for Gods sake, some of the most powerful and wealthy people in all the world...are in secret clubs called Skull and Bones...that basically worships death. I mean, we have a problem here. When the top industrial and political and military and media moguls go to Bohemian Grove every summer and conduct mock human sacrifices in the name of Moloch, the child eating demon God...we have a problem! And there is no conspiracy, no occult agenda for global control? Im having a laugh.
@mrscojoe These elites are still around ok, they just write in the history books how they arent, or write how they are the good guys, they have a war on terror and say theyre the good guys, a hi-tech police state at home because theyre the good guys..has nothing to do with stifling dissent, oh no! Its to keep you safe from Osama Bin Laden..whos family is deeply connected to the Bush Skull n Bones family..they are all war mongering, power hungry, death lovers..and they would love you to deny it!
Did this entire thing arise because I called David Icke an idiot? I called him and others idiots because of the whole "Lizardmen rule and satan gave them power" thing. It may be metaphorical, but I think it's silly.
Of course the elite wish to band together so they may perpetuate their reign. But it is hardly clandestine. And ultimately, I believe the domination of the majority arises from self-interest rather than malignant intent. Maybe that is where we differ?
Look stop talking to me ok, its obvious you dont anything about this subject. Its obvious you refuse to look through the evidence, in detail. And dont let David Ickes lizardmen turn you off..you get off your lazy ass, and go do some research! I already stated so many things, that are huge red flags...Skull n Bones secret society that worships death, and have their members in top positions all through society, I mean hello! Red flag! Alert! Alert! Are you gonna wake up or keep being a fool!
Maybe you should get off your ass and do something where you may actually do some good rather than mocking others and tooting your own horn on youtube. Knowledge is power, but you're doing fuck-all with it. Informing others? You ramble and insult like a delinquent. If you want to inform others, drop the hostility, and start being proactive.
Build a better world for others though doing good and serving. If you don't like the one you live in, then change it.
@mrscojoe I am doing something, I have a life plan for myself and how I can best maneuver myself into the positions I need to be to effect change in the biggest way. YOU need to stop with your bullshit, and stop telling people not to confront the problem! The problem is, we have a force thats overseeing us..that doesnt want to us to evolve. They dont want people in the third world to advance, they want to bring down our advancement! Humans arent just stupid people..we are being manipulated!
If you want to change something, you have to start from the ground up. That's what I believe, and that's what I'm doing. If you have a different technique, great! But don't say mine is ineffectual and invalid because I have seen plenty of faces I've helped that speak to the contrary.
@mrscojoe I never said youre way was ineffectual. I said dont tell me Im wrong, for trying to cut the head off of the snake. You can help the victims, good, Im happy youre doing that. Im going for the victimizer, the people who prey on innocent people and worship death and have the power to uplift all of mankind, yet choose to build war machines and wage war and play games of power and control. Im tired of it. Im tired of these dark elites running around hurting people! Its time to fight them!
Good. I'm tired of all the crap in the world, too. Then let's agree that both our ways have merit and we are striving for the same thing; a better world without subjugation and exploitation. You cut the head off the snake and prevent more damage, and I'll clean up the mess it has already made. Teamwork!
We (people) should be working as a team, not adversaries. That is why I say "enough with the insults". It's granting human dignity to others and building a better world.
But you still deny that theres even a snake. What do you think preys on people, what do you think is the power that stops whole continents like Africa from truly advancing? There really is a shadowy dark group of world controllers, international elites..who have an agenda to move the world towards a world government, under their control. This is the heart of whats happening, and Im happy you care and are helping the victims, God bless you. The shit will stop when these elites are taken out.
I do refute that the snake is hidden. We see its effects, and we see its trail. We know that it is lying in the most plush palaces of the world. As you said earlier, they don't even bother to hide it. I know that my world is being shaped by people in high (and insidious) places. I just don't maintain that it is a clandestine operation, because I see its progress and wake of suffering, whether small or great.
But, that won't change unless we all work together to stop it.
@mrscojoe But sir, It is clandestine, they have secret societies! lol They have secret oaths and rituals..and they go write in their book about how they cant talk about it, Bush and Kerry went on Meet the Press and said "We are in Skull and Bones, and its so secret, we cant talk about it." I mean theyre keeping something hidden! I believe that "something" is the knowledge of the metaphysical, as well as..their agenda to have global control. It surely cant be good, I think we can agree on that.
Granted, we do not what is going on. And granted, we can pretty much guarantee that when elites get together, there's some scheming. But when I say "clandestine", I mean "clandestine". If we're talking about it, it's not clandestine. Secretive, most definitely. Just differing semantics of the word, I guess.
However, it's the whole satanic aspect that I find hard to swallow. No offense to theists, but praying to a supreme (evil) being for power is a little much for me.
I mean why do you think theres a third world anyways? Why do you think people in Africa are starving and dying by the millions, it isnt because theyre good for nothing scum that need to be sterilized and wiped out...thats what the elites believe. They write about how they will use "wars, famine and disease" to cull off the "useless eaters" of the world. But oh you dont know that, yea, because youre a fool, and dont you dare mouth off to me, I dont give two damns whether youre insulted or not!
Man, I've been to Africa, and there is as much exploitation from the top to bottom as there is from the bottom to the bottom. Now, that may be a result of exploitation, but I've trekked my ass over there for years and made a difference in some kids' lives, if only for a few years. If you think that that is useless, well, I'll be waiting for you to usher in the revolution.
@mrscojoe Yea Africa has been the MOST exploited and raped, by these death loving elites. They hate black people, they think they are sub-human..and this goes back hundreds, thousands of years. Thats why the royalties took blacks as slaves and didnt give them human rights...and taught US to hate them too. These elites are STILL AROUND..they STILL are raping Africa and they have an agenda to decimate the people of the third world, who they think are subhumans! Sir..please wake up! God help us!
The reason Africa is so "messed up" is because these white elite imperialists have turned Africans against other Africans. And I do recognize that and the rule of an elite minority. My birth and education made that possible. However, others don't have that opportunity, and that's why service to the less fortunate is important. If they understand their own situation, they will be able to react to it, fight it, and hopefully change it. But sadly, that doesn't always work.
@mrscojoe Well look, if youre not willing to do anything, dont sit your ass and complain. And especially, dont sit on your ass, and tell people like ME, not to do anything! I mean are you stupid or what..and dont cry "oh dont insult me, dont hurt my feelings" no, maybe you need to take a look in the mirror, and take a look through your own awareness, to find out why people call you stupid! This isnt rocket science, but you guys just dont wanna believe the world isnt how your taught it is.
Not do anything? Just because I'm not gunning for a revolution does not mean I am doing nothing. I've spent years in foreign countries helping out the people who got the shit end of the stick, teaching and building their community. I tutor in my community. We have different ways of perceiving "nothing".
I tell you to stop with the insults because you should treat everyone with decency, regardless if you disagree with them or not.
Its hard to take you seriously. Its hard. You keep saying the same things, over and over...yea, there are elites..yea they form secret clubs, and do secret rituals and worship death, yea they have their men in top positions all through society..but..there is no sinister dark conspiracy! I suggest getting in touch with the spiritual side of life, there IS and always has been, a battle of light and dark on this planet. Go study life under the Nazis..if you dont think people want to control others.
Again, you are creating an imaginary, shadow argument and arguing against that. I know bad people exist and they wish to exploit others for their own gain. I've probably experienced that more than you can imagine.
It's hard to take someone seriously who still can't comprehend the same thing I've been repeating over and over for the past hour, and topping it off with insulting diatribes.
NO, how about you take the time to read through what I wrote, instead of just whining about how I call you stupid! Read through what I wrote, and then answer that. Dont just whine about "oh youre insulting me" well maybe you deserve to be insulted. Maybe you need to wake the fuck up and stop being a fake intellectual, trying to tell people like me that Im wrong. Its just a sad thing and Im outraged because so many people are like you when if you would wake up, we could salvage our planet!
@mrscojoe Well Ive literally studied this stuff all my life, and to me, theres no excuse for ignorance! And dont give me this garbage, Im not some fake intellectual, I am who I am, real... and I speak from the heart and I speak to you as I would right in your face. I dont pretend to be all intellectual, like you..and I know its a charade because you dont even know the basics about how the world really works, you just believe something some teacher or the TV tells you..go do some real research.
Clearly, you speak from the heart rather than the brain because each response has been deprecating and insulting. Less hostility, more discussion.
I still don't understand what exactly you are arguing against? Can you QUOTE what I said and why you disagree with it rather than insulting and arguing against some imagination version of my thoughts?
Well you keep saying "there is no clandestine conspiracy to have power" when obviously there is. I mean have you seen the video of the Bohemian Grove, where they do mock human sacrifices and call out ancient demon Gods..do you know about Skull and Bones? Have you been listening to the damn documentary? I guess they do it all for fun! They are deeply into the occult and they have an agenda to put their guys in places of power and push the world towards totalitarianism! They love death and fear!
@mrscojoe I mean why do you think thats all thats pushed on us by way of the media, death, fear, division..I mean are we just a racist race? No, we are TAUGHT to hate each other, by people who want to divide and rule. Most people are good decent people..the criminal element is a small minority. But good people like you want to stick your head in the sand with your ass hanging way out in the open and the criminals come and kick it constantly. Evil men are in power, thats why society is how it is.
Do you have a brain of your own? Can you go type in "world leaders new world order" in a search engine? Can you do one iota of real research, instead of asking everybody to spoonfeed reality to you? Ive heard Gordon Brown, Henry Kissinger, Dmitri Medvedev, both Bushes, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, so many world leaders from past and present, have talked about a "New World Order". The European Union is a stepping stone to world government, and now they want the North American Union.
Just because we have entered into a "modern" age with technology and information, doesnt mean these elites just disappeared. The good thing is with our technology and information services, they cant keep things secret anymore like they did 200 years ago when only 10 percent of the population could read and write. They are being exposed, and you can go watch video clips, just type in "world leaders new world order" and youll get all kinds of videos...they are STILL at it, but they will fail!
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Right, that's why we research conspiracies, to alleviate our own blame for why the world sucks. Are you completely fuckin retarded, or just kinda? Some of us, actually want to avoid having a dictator ever again. You'll change the tune your singin when your sittin in an acid shower now wont ya.
I think even if everyone knew we were under a "global fascist state". Most would just accept it, as long as they felt safe and in their comfort zones. Most people are lazy.
I was like was is this Pipes guy so blind that he doesn't know the true intentions of these groups, and then I see that he is part of the CFR... of course, it makes sense now...
The truth is that secret societies definitely do exist and that all the super successful people throughout history have been members of one.Most members do not reveal what they are taught. Within secret societies we are taught the true secrets to success that are not revealed to the masses. I know this because I am a member of a secret society called GIN. GIN is a private, by invitation only secret society.If you want to learn more,email at bhargavpatel60@yahoo.com or call me 404-324-2450 .
bhargavpatel771 1 month ago
So im watching this and more and more am i convinced that the Illuminati are fake. Im tired of this conspiracy crap where is there grasp of the world because i have yet to see it i have yet to see there big influence on the world aside from secret messages idiots find in cartoons and in music lmao dam reptilian assholes there coming for us lets start worshiping bophamet lmao
aviles1323 4 months ago
i am illuminati and yourworld is done
theerwinrommel1891 4 months ago
"Freedom to say what they're thinking and not be held accountable for it" Every man or woman should be held accountable for what they believe in. If they fear what others would think and hide it then their motives are underhanded.
omga14 5 months ago
two things to say..... FUCK NEW WORLD ORDER.......and......... DONT FOLLOW ILLUMINATI!!! FOLLOW G.O.D. and you'll be okay..... and if you dont believe in God than hummm your loss...... its the only way to go..
JLM7734 7 months ago
@JLM7734 you're a fucking idiot LuL!
just kill yourself please.
Warvancrusade 5 months ago
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JLM7734 7 months ago
Mr Pipes look pretty sinister to me...
Shanicekalei 9 months ago 3
Remember people, DO NOT get brainwashed by everything you view in youtube. Be more concerned with your family and friends. These childish games that we read about history make us eat it all and leaving us viewers with a stomach ache. Yes, it is important to know more about the world, but that does not mean we should use the information to control our lives.
gushernandez25 11 months ago
@gushernandez25 YOU HAVE NO GUTS FOR THIS,AND THE CHILDISH GAME IS ON YOU ,YOU WILL BE PUNKED IF YOU KEEP TURNNING AWAY FROM THE TRUTH,BY MAKING SUCH AN EXCUSE,THIS IS NOT FOR WEAK / SENSITIVE PEOPLE,WATCH SOMETHING ELSE AND FORGET YOU EVER SAW THIS VIDEO,THEN AGAIN YOU MIGHT ONE OF THEM!
1ITOPIA 10 months ago
@1ITOPIA You speak like a brainwashed human. Why would the game be on me. At least I'm far more concerned with better things. Like drinking water, eating, sleeping, and working. Illuminati your shit. Trust me, your suggestion means nothing to me because this poor constructed group will perish with the almighty time. The tables will turn on their mockery and soon it will fall and end. Sorry, try you mess with someone else.
gushernandez25 10 months ago
george bush is an utter moron,as are his countrymen.
wavular 1 year ago
Wow so 9/11 was an inside job look at 7:45 world trade agenda damn i'm starting to believe all the conspiracy shit..
Wiz4Rd7 1 year ago
if you look at what research David Icke has done it becomes clear that something is not right in the rulers of the world and their domination over their society dating back all the way to the kings of Babylon if you think Icke's an idiot your blind,not physically but mentally I suggest you open your mind and do the research
MaximumKahnage 1 year ago 12
Is it me ,or does that Pipes guy drip with slime??
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intermitrj 1 year ago
''Yah Veh hath made all to answer to Him: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil''.
aTruster 1 year ago
Does any1 know how to b allowed to keep adding subscriptions? It tells me I have too many subscriptions compared to my # of subscribers.
total b.s.!
efisgpr 1 year ago
even Rick Warren of the purposes driven confusion is a member of the COFR.
saudertim1 1 year ago
ppl in the usa thank god you grew brains and dont believe the whole evil lizard bull but the bush secret societies is real, just look at what happened everytime a bush gets to power, war, to take hold of some area where the usa or them, because they will sacrifice amricans just like iraquis for cash, the plan is to control every country, directly or with dictator, remenber chile, africa angola mozambique, irak afganishtan and so on, any more questions?
badsign1980 1 year ago
why would they have a person from the secret tell everyone that there isn't one
mADBLunTS100 1 year ago
Folks...when the two presidential canditates are both members of a secret society named Skull and Bones..which worships death...both initiated in the same year..yet both on opposite ends of the political spectrum....we have a BIG problem! We have a ONE PARTY state masquerading as freedom and democracy. We have fake political parties, we have a major conspiracy on our hands! And..I mean..just because the media tells you anyone who talks about conspiracies is a kook, doesnt mean its not real.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
This two party system does suck, I agree. We don't really "vote" because we have to choose between two people that many of us simply do not want.
See, my theory is this. The mere discussion of certain clandestine societies is ironic. You may know that they're there, but who they are, what they are, how many there are, and what they are trying to achieve are all unknown. That's what I consider clandestine.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
I guess where I differ is the idea of a unified and covert dominating body. Now, there may be some like-minded individuals who get together and say "Hey, let's help each other out" and then exploit others. But clubs, rituals, initiations, and the most defining force? I'll pass. I think that the world is instead shaped mostly by an overtly dominating, selfish elite who seek to accrue more money and power through exploitation. It works, as long as the masses are content.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
Have you been watching these videos? They are real, these rituals have even been caught on tape. Alex Jones sneaked into the Bohemian Grove club, and caught the ritual on tape! They dress up in black garments, and sacrifice a human in effigy to a big stone owl, which represents Moloch, a demon God who eats babies. They burn the body and say how theyre "burning their cares away" I guess its all in good fun. No, its all very sinister... you just CHOOSE not to believe it, well thats your mistake.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@mrscojoe I didnt want to believe it either, until I saw the video. I mean, they really do dress up and do these occult rituals, where they invoke demon Gods, and do mock human sacrifices. Its just an unbelievable thing, would you get together and do that with your friends? Why would they do that, unless they were darkly inclined. Good decent people wouldnt be into that stuff...I mean Skull and Bones is an order of death, they call themselves the Order of Death. I mean its sinister! Its real!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
David Rockefeller, a major player in the financial world, a person who basically owns New York City...he wrote in his book "The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite is preferable to the national self-determination practiced in past centuries" in other words..an intellectual elite controlling the people is better than the people controlling themselves. They think youre stupid, ok, they dont think you can govern yourself. Its always been like that, I mean what planet do you live on!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
Its funny seeing this would be skeptic simply denounce everything without so much as an explanation, hes just like "well yea there are secret societies, Skull and Bones, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, etc. and yea they get have among the most wealthiest and most powerful people in the whole world, and yea they get together and meet in secret and discuss global events..but there is no conspiracy, oh no, its a total misreading!" I mean God how can someone be so damn naive.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
Maybe your right, maybe this is all "junk". but what if , just if this stuff is really true, are we all in a world of s#$%!!!
johnnyeagle007 1 year ago
all of y'all that don't pay great attention to this video! You are the controlled that will see the truth when it is too late! I pray for you all
mrcrabtree35 1 year ago
It wont play the last 15 seconds of the vid, wtf?
DAHRealTrump 1 year ago
If it's on youtube.com its NOT much of a secret.
likitt2 1 year ago
has anyone ever gotten mail from the group because i recently have and anyone who is serious please contact me and we can proceed about this situation because quite frankly im done with being ignorant about this matter. again please serious people only
TheFilipinoBoxer 1 year ago
great.....another anti-hitler hero who tries to save the world. The blonde brittish is fucking fake.
Hverglemer 1 year ago
You're not going to like what you find if you keep digging. They're actually helping, so stop being so fucking curious!
Nathanwmang 1 year ago
in reality there are two groups of people, those who will fall slaves to the nwo and those who already opened their eyes and started fighting the nwo
TheFilipinoBoxer 1 year ago
I'm a member of a secret society named facebook, guys do you know it? lol
anafortbezzaf 1 year ago
Take all this with a grain of salt... Remember that this guy, David Icke, also believes that certain members of the illuminati morph into reptiles. Whoa! I'm disappointed with the History Channel as he's perhaps not a CREDIBLE person to interview for this very interesting topic of the illuminati.
CashBackAtEbay 2 years ago
I find it tremendously arrogant when someone assumes to know the true nature of their reality because they are spoon-fed a poisoned matrix. When you understand how extravagant the elite's methods are and just how diverse life on Earth is you'll come to the understanding that nothing is impossible. The Reptilian Theory has not been debunked and rarely goes properly debated. If you'd just take the time to read and stop saying "Whoa too crazy for me!" perhaps we could get somewhere.
xPythox 1 year ago 2
@CashBackAtEbay What makes you think that reptiles dont control the world? You dont know as much an anyone else. For all you know its true. You can not prove its not. Have you looked into the Sumerians? Probably not...im assuming...the world being ruled by aliens is no crazier then Jesus being the son of God
thefreedomwatcher 1 year ago
there are way more deals struck on the golf course or the local gentlemens club than ever happens in a local lodge.people need to stop looking for others to blame and start taking responsibility for there own lives. its to easy to point the finger and blame others for your own failings than to get up off your backside and make a change in your own lives.
bigrider2806 2 years ago
This isn't about successes or failures of individual lives, this is about Cheats Lies and dishonesty. The money they print is not real. You give them your gold and your hard work while they print money from thin air and give it back to you. This is about global scale of conscious awakening. This is about denial that you are having right now. This is about those in power are in power because people like you dont know whats going on.
Annuunnaki 2 years ago 21
@Annuunnaki word!
kabol69 9 months ago
Can somebody tell me how some intellectually extremely limited person such as (both) Bushes can become president of the US if it were not for some clandestine power plays supporting them. I even ask myself how somebody such as Bush junior is able to finish university (any university.... not to speak of the most prestigious universities of this world)
vinavon 2 years ago 2
Yes I can tell you vinavon, ignorant people like us who do not get our selves involved in seeking the truth and do not listen to honest and sound leaders like JFK, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and todays leaders such as RON PAUL etc... If we the American people listen to these honest leaders then we wont have trouble illuminating people like Bush, Rothschild banking, Rockefeller bankers, JPMorgan, Bank of England, Henry Kissinger, Ben Bernanke and the rest of these scums.
Annuunnaki 2 years ago
F..k the secret society, f..k the Rothschild family.
Tien1185 2 years ago
I think it's an interesting subject, but honestly I think they get more interest in the secrecy part of it than anything. Wouldn't we all be surprised if they only met once a year to relax and play golf? :D
AuburnRed1 2 years ago
Vote NO in the lisbon treaty,Ireland voted NO and our goverment decided they would'nt take NO for an answer and are holding another referendum scaring people into voting yes,with false information and propaganda ,VOTE NO, KEEP CONTROL OF OUR OWN COUNTRY,NO TO FOREIGN OCCUPATION,NO TO THE REST OF EUROPE SHAPING OUR DESTINY!!!!ALL WE GET 0.8% OF THE VOTE,WHILE OTHER COUNTRIES GET HIGHER.IF WE ARE TO BE EQUAL IN THE EU ,WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE SAME VOTES!!!!
edwinamcmanus 2 years ago
The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free, and open society, and we are, as a people, inherently, and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
We decided, long ago, that the dangers of excessive, and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts, far outweigh the dangers which are cited to justify it.
RexNunc 2 years ago
fuck secret societies!!!!!! they aint shit!!
wserej 2 years ago 3
Just like here! this suppose to be the 5th richest country in the world but it doesnt feel like it,We pay 1st world taxes for a 3rd world service,It seems all they care out is people keeping there mouths shut & paying there taxes.
core1976scotland 2 years ago
The whole point isnt that they WANT to take over the world, the point is that IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. The leaders of the world are members of these societies, as in Bilderberg. If they are ALREADY in control, what would there be to take over? They are only trying to consolidate their power, which is and has been in place for a long time. Don't believe it? Go back to grazin the pasture, and find the truth the hard way. Don't say that nobody ever told ya.
allspirits111 2 years ago
yep
TheNeonAngel 2 years ago
I know.
VipericVampire 2 years ago
DEATH TO SECRET SOCIETIES!
VipericVampire 2 years ago 4
Funny...people always say how the UN is powerless and does nothing, and here David Icke is warning of its power. Major lulz.
mrscojoe 3 years ago 18
And David Icke is quite an idiot. It'd be obvious to anyone with common sense that an international body like the UN would have members learned in foreign relations. What would Icke rather have sent to the UN? School teachers and plumbers? This guy is a moron.
mrscojoe 3 years ago
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IKE is NO IDIOT, you are the IDIOT! do you think that School Teachers and plummers are the highest educated trades/skills?? what about a pannel made up of 2 of the best scientists, doctors, judges etc... why powerfull capatolists? John D Rockefeller supplied the Nazis with a chemical used in the gas that killed Millions of jews. without this chemical the nazi's wouldnt have beenable to kill all those jew and allied troops, this is documented FACT! do u think D Rockefeller should head up the CFR?
Alapahauk 3 years ago
You can make all the conspiracy theories you want to explain why the world sucks, but ultimately your blame game is just a cop-out so you have to take no responsibility yourself.
mrscojoe 3 years ago 10
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EXCUSE ME?? No conspiracy nut here, just facts my friend, pure DOCUMENTED FACTS. Following the German invasion of Poland in 1939, Standard Oil (John D Rockefeller) pledged to keep the merger with I.G. Farben going even if the U.S. entered the war. This ment the deaths of millions was exposed in 1942 by Sen. Harry Truman's investigating committee, and President Roosevelt took hundreds of legal measures during the war to stop the Standard-I.G. Farben cartel from supplying the enemy war machine.
FreeCalamus 3 years ago
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WITH OUT John D Rockefellers patented chemical derived from his Standard Oil Company of New Jersey (now called ``Exxon''). I. G Farben a Nazi under control of Hitler's 3rd reich and owner of I.G Farben Chemicals wouldnt have been able to make KYKLON B, the only agent that could carry the deadly gas used to kill millions of inocent jews and 100000's of allied troops THESE ARE FACTS MATE! NOT CONSPIRACY, now i have educated you on that, Do you think son of John D Rockefeller should head the CFR?
FreeCalamus 3 years ago
A true conspirator, who blames others for his/her dissatisfaction of life and changes the where the true focus should be.
Icke is an idiot, I said. Why? Because he's obviously "stumbled across something" because an international body is created and run by people learned in foreign relations? Fancy that!
You, too, can count yourself among the league of rambling idiots.
mrscojoe 3 years ago 11
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freecalamus, this guy is dick, i've seen him posting on conspiracy theory video's. take no notice of this idiot! I know what you are say is documented, and thats all we need to know! So mrs co jo can take her dick and stick it up her father tight duck hole.
thanks for imput
Alapahauk 3 years ago
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Consider yourself the enemy, or neutral. You wouldnt be worth a shit to any kind of revolution, so go back to your sheep like life of subservience. Fuckin pussy lol. You're a disgrace to freedom.
allspirits111 2 years ago
Fascist mindset: brand everyone that doesn't agree with us a coward and a traitor and declare them an enemy and destroy them.
I'm glad you count me an enemy to your way of thinking. I'm glad I'm a disgrace to your concept of freedom. I'm glad I would be worthless in your revolution. None of those are anything I would ever like to take part in, and I'm glad of that, too.
mrscojoe 2 years ago 2
@mrscojoe What are you talking about, its not like they even keep it hidden anymore. They outright state yes we want a world government, havent you seen world leaders talk about world government all over the place? World leaders all over the world have talked of a "New World Order" I mean..I dont get you people, why cant you just admit the obvious, all this stuff is real. Life isnt as dull and boring as you think it is, there are grand schemes playing out on the world stage for control of YOU!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
I am not saying that you are incorrect, but please cite these world leaders, and where I may read these alleged discussions. Secondly, I am not opposed to a world government, though the world is a long, long way off from that prospect.
Do some people clandestinely conspire to gain power and wealth? Absolutely. Are these domination conspiracies realized and multitudinous? Certainly not. Conversely, the world is not as exciting and as bleak as you think it is.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@mrscojoe Well you dont understand history. This is the norm ok. The "royal" families and aristocracies and elites have ALWAYS been like this, they always have been ruthless tyrants who want to suppress our freedom and expand their power to where they control the whole world. Its always been like this, why do you think America was even formed, because people all over the world were tired of these elites and their tyranny. Now people seem to think these elites just disappeared or turned good! NO!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
Well, you didn't understand my post. I never contested the power elite theory. And you didn't cite these discussions as I had asked.
Ask yourself a question: could you imagine that you are wrong? Could you imagine that you are mistaken, and there is no malignant body out to clandestinely subjugate you? If you say "no", then there is nothing to be gained by talking to you; you are fossilized in your beliefs.
I recognize that I may be wrong. Can you?
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@mrscojoe No, fool. Im tired of this objectivity game, there is such thing as TRUTH. One of us is right and one of us is wrong..and YOU sir, are wrong. Of course there are elites, of course they have a plan to control the world, of course they stifle freedom and anyone who becomes a threat to them..I mean where have you been the last 50 years, sleeping under a bridge? The only reason you dont know is because you dont want to know...the info is there for anybody with a real thirst for knowledge.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
You should try to express yourself in a less caustic and offensive way. Filling your statements with juveniles insults impugns your credibility.
Once again, you made the statement, not me. You must substantiate it, not me.
Again, you should read what I wrote, rather than argue against your version of what I said. Again, no one is arguing against an economic elite theory of power. However, you should read Robert Dahl's study of New Haven for some good counterpoints.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
I am not arguing against what you have said thus far; an economic elite minority DOES rule over the majority. This is evident from simple observation. What I do disagree with is the claim of a perpetual and CLANDESTINE usurpation of power by "Illuminati" and similar conspirator groups.
If you knew about it, it wouldn't be too clandestine, now would it? Do you see the logical fallacy? With this in mind, your self-perceived infallibility is, in retrospect, quite ironic.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
Well look..you try and talk all intelligent, but youre not that smart...thats pretty clear. The facts are the facts, and you can try and shy away from it or look for some scapegoat..."well yea theres an elite and they want to increase their power..but its just kind of a loose thing, and its kinda of just happening...no real conspiracy or motive behind it." You sir, are an idiot...I dont care how you try to talk. Go do some research then you might figure it out. Just unbelievable these people.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
Once again, you are creating a fantasy argument and attacking something that was never said nor thought. It's pretty easy to argue against something that's imaginary, isn't it?
Again with the insults. If you want to convince me of something, why not try comporting yourself with some maturity? I am always open to new ideas, especially if I may be incorrect and learn the truth. If you're not trying to convince me, then why are you still commenting?
mrscojoe 1 year ago
Oh stop being a little pussy, and take it. I said more than enough. Its your turn to provide something worthwhile, and not just denials and "show me the proof" you are a little kid, arent you? Im tired of dealing with you people..and its so sad because you pretend to be all smart and enlightened, when clearly its an act because you really dont know much at all. These are statements, these arent insults. Im calling it like I see it and I suggest getting out of your mind and embrace your heart.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
I had stated yesterday that I do believe clandestine conspiracies for power do occur, naturally, but they were not "perpetual[...]multitudinous and realized".
I recognize that there are many issues with power, such as political family dynasties and political appointment based on a bank account rather than credentials. However, I think the people will recognize if a malignant state seeks to 'enslave' them, and they will ultimately prevail.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@mrscojoe Well we are recognizing it, no thanks to people like you, who tell people like us, that we are crazy. You are akin to the people in the pubs and halls, telling the revolutionary war fighters not to fight against the British, they werent so bad. People around the world were sick of monarchs and tyrants and oligarchs and bankers trying to control them, thats why America was formed! But all that doesnt exist, to people like you..it vanished! No it didnt, these families are STILL AROUND.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
You know, I AM incensed that when I vote, I only realistically have a choice between two candidates. I don't like the fact that an oil industry spurns energy and transportation innovation to bolster the bottom line. I don't like the fact that a big wallet and white skin is akin to a get out of jail free card in most cases. I hate that and it needs to change. But as long as an overt economic elite dominate, what is a lowly citizen to do?
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@mrscojoe I mean for Gods sake, some of the most powerful and wealthy people in all the world...are in secret clubs called Skull and Bones...that basically worships death. I mean, we have a problem here. When the top industrial and political and military and media moguls go to Bohemian Grove every summer and conduct mock human sacrifices in the name of Moloch, the child eating demon God...we have a problem! And there is no conspiracy, no occult agenda for global control? Im having a laugh.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@mrscojoe These elites are still around ok, they just write in the history books how they arent, or write how they are the good guys, they have a war on terror and say theyre the good guys, a hi-tech police state at home because theyre the good guys..has nothing to do with stifling dissent, oh no! Its to keep you safe from Osama Bin Laden..whos family is deeply connected to the Bush Skull n Bones family..they are all war mongering, power hungry, death lovers..and they would love you to deny it!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
Did this entire thing arise because I called David Icke an idiot? I called him and others idiots because of the whole "Lizardmen rule and satan gave them power" thing. It may be metaphorical, but I think it's silly.
Of course the elite wish to band together so they may perpetuate their reign. But it is hardly clandestine. And ultimately, I believe the domination of the majority arises from self-interest rather than malignant intent. Maybe that is where we differ?
mrscojoe 1 year ago
Look stop talking to me ok, its obvious you dont anything about this subject. Its obvious you refuse to look through the evidence, in detail. And dont let David Ickes lizardmen turn you off..you get off your lazy ass, and go do some research! I already stated so many things, that are huge red flags...Skull n Bones secret society that worships death, and have their members in top positions all through society, I mean hello! Red flag! Alert! Alert! Are you gonna wake up or keep being a fool!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
Maybe you should get off your ass and do something where you may actually do some good rather than mocking others and tooting your own horn on youtube. Knowledge is power, but you're doing fuck-all with it. Informing others? You ramble and insult like a delinquent. If you want to inform others, drop the hostility, and start being proactive.
Build a better world for others though doing good and serving. If you don't like the one you live in, then change it.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@mrscojoe I am doing something, I have a life plan for myself and how I can best maneuver myself into the positions I need to be to effect change in the biggest way. YOU need to stop with your bullshit, and stop telling people not to confront the problem! The problem is, we have a force thats overseeing us..that doesnt want to us to evolve. They dont want people in the third world to advance, they want to bring down our advancement! Humans arent just stupid people..we are being manipulated!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
If you want to change something, you have to start from the ground up. That's what I believe, and that's what I'm doing. If you have a different technique, great! But don't say mine is ineffectual and invalid because I have seen plenty of faces I've helped that speak to the contrary.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@mrscojoe I never said youre way was ineffectual. I said dont tell me Im wrong, for trying to cut the head off of the snake. You can help the victims, good, Im happy youre doing that. Im going for the victimizer, the people who prey on innocent people and worship death and have the power to uplift all of mankind, yet choose to build war machines and wage war and play games of power and control. Im tired of it. Im tired of these dark elites running around hurting people! Its time to fight them!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
Good. I'm tired of all the crap in the world, too. Then let's agree that both our ways have merit and we are striving for the same thing; a better world without subjugation and exploitation. You cut the head off the snake and prevent more damage, and I'll clean up the mess it has already made. Teamwork!
We (people) should be working as a team, not adversaries. That is why I say "enough with the insults". It's granting human dignity to others and building a better world.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
But you still deny that theres even a snake. What do you think preys on people, what do you think is the power that stops whole continents like Africa from truly advancing? There really is a shadowy dark group of world controllers, international elites..who have an agenda to move the world towards a world government, under their control. This is the heart of whats happening, and Im happy you care and are helping the victims, God bless you. The shit will stop when these elites are taken out.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
I do refute that the snake is hidden. We see its effects, and we see its trail. We know that it is lying in the most plush palaces of the world. As you said earlier, they don't even bother to hide it. I know that my world is being shaped by people in high (and insidious) places. I just don't maintain that it is a clandestine operation, because I see its progress and wake of suffering, whether small or great.
But, that won't change unless we all work together to stop it.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@mrscojoe But sir, It is clandestine, they have secret societies! lol They have secret oaths and rituals..and they go write in their book about how they cant talk about it, Bush and Kerry went on Meet the Press and said "We are in Skull and Bones, and its so secret, we cant talk about it." I mean theyre keeping something hidden! I believe that "something" is the knowledge of the metaphysical, as well as..their agenda to have global control. It surely cant be good, I think we can agree on that.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
Granted, we do not what is going on. And granted, we can pretty much guarantee that when elites get together, there's some scheming. But when I say "clandestine", I mean "clandestine". If we're talking about it, it's not clandestine. Secretive, most definitely. Just differing semantics of the word, I guess.
However, it's the whole satanic aspect that I find hard to swallow. No offense to theists, but praying to a supreme (evil) being for power is a little much for me.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
I mean why do you think theres a third world anyways? Why do you think people in Africa are starving and dying by the millions, it isnt because theyre good for nothing scum that need to be sterilized and wiped out...thats what the elites believe. They write about how they will use "wars, famine and disease" to cull off the "useless eaters" of the world. But oh you dont know that, yea, because youre a fool, and dont you dare mouth off to me, I dont give two damns whether youre insulted or not!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
Man, I've been to Africa, and there is as much exploitation from the top to bottom as there is from the bottom to the bottom. Now, that may be a result of exploitation, but I've trekked my ass over there for years and made a difference in some kids' lives, if only for a few years. If you think that that is useless, well, I'll be waiting for you to usher in the revolution.
I tell you don't listen because you don't.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@mrscojoe Yea Africa has been the MOST exploited and raped, by these death loving elites. They hate black people, they think they are sub-human..and this goes back hundreds, thousands of years. Thats why the royalties took blacks as slaves and didnt give them human rights...and taught US to hate them too. These elites are STILL AROUND..they STILL are raping Africa and they have an agenda to decimate the people of the third world, who they think are subhumans! Sir..please wake up! God help us!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
The reason Africa is so "messed up" is because these white elite imperialists have turned Africans against other Africans. And I do recognize that and the rule of an elite minority. My birth and education made that possible. However, others don't have that opportunity, and that's why service to the less fortunate is important. If they understand their own situation, they will be able to react to it, fight it, and hopefully change it. But sadly, that doesn't always work.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
@mrscojoe Well look, if youre not willing to do anything, dont sit your ass and complain. And especially, dont sit on your ass, and tell people like ME, not to do anything! I mean are you stupid or what..and dont cry "oh dont insult me, dont hurt my feelings" no, maybe you need to take a look in the mirror, and take a look through your own awareness, to find out why people call you stupid! This isnt rocket science, but you guys just dont wanna believe the world isnt how your taught it is.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
Not do anything? Just because I'm not gunning for a revolution does not mean I am doing nothing. I've spent years in foreign countries helping out the people who got the shit end of the stick, teaching and building their community. I tutor in my community. We have different ways of perceiving "nothing".
I tell you to stop with the insults because you should treat everyone with decency, regardless if you disagree with them or not.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
Its hard to take you seriously. Its hard. You keep saying the same things, over and over...yea, there are elites..yea they form secret clubs, and do secret rituals and worship death, yea they have their men in top positions all through society..but..there is no sinister dark conspiracy! I suggest getting in touch with the spiritual side of life, there IS and always has been, a battle of light and dark on this planet. Go study life under the Nazis..if you dont think people want to control others.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
Again, you are creating an imaginary, shadow argument and arguing against that. I know bad people exist and they wish to exploit others for their own gain. I've probably experienced that more than you can imagine.
It's hard to take someone seriously who still can't comprehend the same thing I've been repeating over and over for the past hour, and topping it off with insulting diatribes.
mrscojoe 1 year ago
NO, how about you take the time to read through what I wrote, instead of just whining about how I call you stupid! Read through what I wrote, and then answer that. Dont just whine about "oh youre insulting me" well maybe you deserve to be insulted. Maybe you need to wake the fuck up and stop being a fake intellectual, trying to tell people like me that Im wrong. Its just a sad thing and Im outraged because so many people are like you when if you would wake up, we could salvage our planet!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@mrscojoe Well Ive literally studied this stuff all my life, and to me, theres no excuse for ignorance! And dont give me this garbage, Im not some fake intellectual, I am who I am, real... and I speak from the heart and I speak to you as I would right in your face. I dont pretend to be all intellectual, like you..and I know its a charade because you dont even know the basics about how the world really works, you just believe something some teacher or the TV tells you..go do some real research.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@FightingForFreedom23
Clearly, you speak from the heart rather than the brain because each response has been deprecating and insulting. Less hostility, more discussion.
I still don't understand what exactly you are arguing against? Can you QUOTE what I said and why you disagree with it rather than insulting and arguing against some imagination version of my thoughts?
mrscojoe 1 year ago
Well you keep saying "there is no clandestine conspiracy to have power" when obviously there is. I mean have you seen the video of the Bohemian Grove, where they do mock human sacrifices and call out ancient demon Gods..do you know about Skull and Bones? Have you been listening to the damn documentary? I guess they do it all for fun! They are deeply into the occult and they have an agenda to put their guys in places of power and push the world towards totalitarianism! They love death and fear!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@mrscojoe I mean why do you think thats all thats pushed on us by way of the media, death, fear, division..I mean are we just a racist race? No, we are TAUGHT to hate each other, by people who want to divide and rule. Most people are good decent people..the criminal element is a small minority. But good people like you want to stick your head in the sand with your ass hanging way out in the open and the criminals come and kick it constantly. Evil men are in power, thats why society is how it is.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
Do you have a brain of your own? Can you go type in "world leaders new world order" in a search engine? Can you do one iota of real research, instead of asking everybody to spoonfeed reality to you? Ive heard Gordon Brown, Henry Kissinger, Dmitri Medvedev, both Bushes, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, so many world leaders from past and present, have talked about a "New World Order". The European Union is a stepping stone to world government, and now they want the North American Union.
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
Just because we have entered into a "modern" age with technology and information, doesnt mean these elites just disappeared. The good thing is with our technology and information services, they cant keep things secret anymore like they did 200 years ago when only 10 percent of the population could read and write. They are being exposed, and you can go watch video clips, just type in "world leaders new world order" and youll get all kinds of videos...they are STILL at it, but they will fail!
FightingForFreedom23 1 year ago
@mrscojoe essentially, icke thinks that george bush a lizard humanoid. literally. hes a nut
dwbrcdub 1 year ago
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Right, that's why we research conspiracies, to alleviate our own blame for why the world sucks. Are you completely fuckin retarded, or just kinda? Some of us, actually want to avoid having a dictator ever again. You'll change the tune your singin when your sittin in an acid shower now wont ya.
allspirits111 2 years ago
@mrscojoe
What the hell is a lulz?
rcj500 1 year ago
@rcj500 your a faggot bro
penguinsoulja96 1 year ago
@penguinsoulja96
Come at me, faget.
rcj500 1 year ago
@rcj500 come at you faget? sorry im not gay you bitch
penguinsoulja96 1 year ago
@penguinsoulja96
Why are you the gayest faget I have run to on the internets than?
rcj500 1 year ago
@rcj500
wtf lmfao
GreenLantern2xXx 1 year ago
@rcj500 Your dear mom.
gushernandez25 11 months ago
@gushernandez25
Your mom goes to college.
rcj500 11 months ago
@rcj500 Unlike yours.
gushernandez25 11 months ago
@gushernandez25
and gets STDs
rcj500 11 months ago
@rcj500 That's the reason why your mom hated you when she had you.
gushernandez25 11 months ago
@gushernandez25
no u
rcj500 11 months ago
@rcj500 ?
gushernandez25 11 months ago
NWO IS GOING DOWN
HashSmokerDude18 3 years ago 5
When Ike Eisenhower said "...beware of the Military Industrial Complex", I wonder if he was thinking of the CFR, and th Trilateral Comision.
Sadiano1564 3 years ago
i guess ill be going to Yale University
lucas503 3 years ago
interesting..
wonder if obama or any of his ppl have any connections to this
or is he independant of these societies.
agetube83 3 years ago
I think even if everyone knew we were under a "global fascist state". Most would just accept it, as long as they felt safe and in their comfort zones. Most people are lazy.
sublime1918 3 years ago
Fuck America.
Behold the coming of a United States of Europe!
PrometheanLight 3 years ago
What ever you wanna believe. Where already one nation. They already have it.
Theronguardaaah 3 years ago
You can't stop CFR'S or any other Secret Organizations that run America. The stage is already set.
919482seneca 3 years ago
I was like was is this Pipes guy so blind that he doesn't know the true intentions of these groups, and then I see that he is part of the CFR... of course, it makes sense now...
MaluMujer 3 years ago 2
Fuck the CFR
51s88 4 years ago 4