@saurabhdelft I know about the history. I know we told Islamic people from all over to come to Afghanistan and gave then money with no oversight. But the Islamic people of that region molded the Taliban into the terrorist origination it is today. I don't agree with allot of things my country does, ESPECIALLY when it's motivated by religion.
Well, up to 40 dead civilians and up to 90 dead overall. Means, up to 50 dead taliban. Why does nobody talk about the killed taliban bastards? The germans are the scape goats now. Even an american general visited the survivors of the attack and told them how sad he feels for them and that no american troops ordered that attack!?? Where the fuck is that general when american troops kill civilians, who so often??? Ha? Where the fuck does he hide then? Double moral, nothing more.
It pisses me to no end.(THE ENEMY INTENTIONALLY HIDE BEHIND THE CIVILLIANS SO THEY CAN PUBLISH THIS SHIT ON THE NEWS!!!!)THAT is why you see this on the news.You boneheads that ahhh and ohhh over this need to get a rifle in your hand and GO OVER THERE AND FIGHT so you can see the real truth!!
1. Col. Klein took this decision after hour-long consideration
2. You disregard the fact that there was a threat at hand, a rolling bomb that could have killed even more people
3. There is only ONE combat company in Kunduz which was engaged around the time of the bombing - politicians here are very concerned about the "peaceful" image of ISAF.
Fact: 57% of Germans are against the ISAF mission. Yet we are still in Afghanistan, and I start wondering wheter I live in a democracy...
rethink afghanistan?? i am fucking sick of this retarded american propaganda and their quest for world domination!!! just stop the damn war and leave everything to go its own path
Thats the problem!THEY DON'T WANT THE AMERICANS OUT!!! They say they are not ready to handle the fight on their own.THEY WONT STAND UP AGAINST THE TALIBAN!
ITN news is an british news service owned by 4 independent companies. hardly deserving of the american propaganda label. Just stop the war and leave? just throw the dice and hope for a six? that's very short-term thinking and dangerous to take a chance on issue such as this. You know that the Taliban are formidable enough to win if Afghanistan is left by itself. Thereafter, Pakistan will likely destabilize. Also, India and Iran, the regional powers, have no illusion of a Taliban-Afghanistan.
even if the taliban would take the control, in time the people of afghanistan would have liberated themselves, if there was a civil war in the US would you want russia to come and end it for you???
Granted, achieving sovereignty by self-liberation is a sweet endeavor. but it doesn't mean the afghans have to be given a slimmer chance to realize it, especially with the Taliban, who's tenacity and downright ruthlessness are their hallmarks. With the UN-mandated Nato, bound to an extent by international law and accountability in the world's eyes and scrutiny, they can do so without bloodshed, without fear.
As to your question, if i was american.. no probably not, though i can't say the same for others. More accurately, if my factional opposition, well funded and armed via external influence and contacts, were to invoked the ire of a powerful external power with whom i hold no animosity. i would be a fool not to seek an alliance especially if my survival hangs by a thread. As the saying goes, " the enemy of my enemy is my friend." As was the case for the northern alliance.
ok, the russians would come into your country burn everything, destroy everything and kill millions of people, and after they would have won the war they would take control, and you would really like that to happen???
And who emulates the russians in your exemplary scenario. The highly scutinized 43 nations of the ISAF or the fundamentalistic taliban and their affliates who are accountable to no-one but themselves? Do you honestly believe the ISAF or nato are mainly there to kill, burn and maim? And to what end i ask?
For us civilians at home, we can make opinions and criticisms of the war and it's participants, but based on hindsight, along with second hand accounts, and declarations from the taliban themselves; which are obviously self-serving.Also we sometimes fail to acknowledge that incompetency, fog of war, and yes, stupidity, play their role to tragedies in this conflict, despite our sophisticated tech
You and i want only good for the afghans though we differ on how that good will come
about.You say withdraw because we shouldn't be there, us being there gets innocents killed and eventual stability will come. Afghanistan was left to it's own devices once after the soviet-afghan war and it's continual instability and resulting tenure to extremists caused the global community and the afghans to pay for it years later through our apathy and indulgence.
you are right, there are countless ways of how peace can come about, people need to be educated not politically but spiritually, but before that happens there is no way of creating and preserving a better world, knowledge is everything
Aw that's too bad. If those towel heads would stand up to the Taliban and not allow them in their communities then they wouldn't be blown to peaces by an air strike.
Too right, it was sickening when i read in the paper that 10 British soldiers gave their lives in order for these rag 'eads to vote,but only 150 out of a potential 80,000 did so.
@saurabhdelft I know about the history. I know we told Islamic people from all over to come to Afghanistan and gave then money with no oversight. But the Islamic people of that region molded the Taliban into the terrorist origination it is today. I don't agree with allot of things my country does, ESPECIALLY when it's motivated by religion.
EvolutionAFact 1 year ago
Well, up to 40 dead civilians and up to 90 dead overall. Means, up to 50 dead taliban. Why does nobody talk about the killed taliban bastards? The germans are the scape goats now. Even an american general visited the survivors of the attack and told them how sad he feels for them and that no american troops ordered that attack!?? Where the fuck is that general when american troops kill civilians, who so often??? Ha? Where the fuck does he hide then? Double moral, nothing more.
VpR81 1 year ago
It pisses me to no end.(THE ENEMY INTENTIONALLY HIDE BEHIND THE CIVILLIANS SO THEY CAN PUBLISH THIS SHIT ON THE NEWS!!!!)THAT is why you see this on the news.You boneheads that ahhh and ohhh over this need to get a rifle in your hand and GO OVER THERE AND FIGHT so you can see the real truth!!
imacgoo 2 years ago
And you just HAD to make that war and take over Afghanistan and install a puppet govt to let you pass your gas pipeline from there
m4trix87 2 years ago
If you wanted, spec ops could easily handle al qaeda and bin laden w/o the need of a war.
m4trix87 2 years ago
And even if you beat them in Afghanistan they ll just continue their operations from elsewhere.You just give them new recruits
m4trix87 2 years ago
It is incredibly reckless for someone to give the go ahead to blow up a truck and kill 90 people just like that. This should not happen ever.
Frogstomp121 2 years ago 2
1. Col. Klein took this decision after hour-long consideration
2. You disregard the fact that there was a threat at hand, a rolling bomb that could have killed even more people
3. There is only ONE combat company in Kunduz which was engaged around the time of the bombing - politicians here are very concerned about the "peaceful" image of ISAF.
Fact: 57% of Germans are against the ISAF mission. Yet we are still in Afghanistan, and I start wondering wheter I live in a democracy...
CRANKYGERMAN 2 years ago
in reply to frogstomp
CRANKYGERMAN 2 years ago
rethink afghanistan?? i am fucking sick of this retarded american propaganda and their quest for world domination!!! just stop the damn war and leave everything to go its own path
Dhaune 2 years ago
Thats the problem!THEY DON'T WANT THE AMERICANS OUT!!! They say they are not ready to handle the fight on their own.THEY WONT STAND UP AGAINST THE TALIBAN!
imacgoo 2 years ago
Why dont you just give them weapons and leave?With far superior weaponry than the taliban even i can succeed against them!
m4trix87 2 years ago
ITN news is an british news service owned by 4 independent companies. hardly deserving of the american propaganda label. Just stop the war and leave? just throw the dice and hope for a six? that's very short-term thinking and dangerous to take a chance on issue such as this. You know that the Taliban are formidable enough to win if Afghanistan is left by itself. Thereafter, Pakistan will likely destabilize. Also, India and Iran, the regional powers, have no illusion of a Taliban-Afghanistan.
scaurus 2 years ago
even if the taliban would take the control, in time the people of afghanistan would have liberated themselves, if there was a civil war in the US would you want russia to come and end it for you???
Dhaune 2 years ago
Granted, achieving sovereignty by self-liberation is a sweet endeavor. but it doesn't mean the afghans have to be given a slimmer chance to realize it, especially with the Taliban, who's tenacity and downright ruthlessness are their hallmarks. With the UN-mandated Nato, bound to an extent by international law and accountability in the world's eyes and scrutiny, they can do so without bloodshed, without fear.
scaurus 2 years ago
As to your question, if i was american.. no probably not, though i can't say the same for others. More accurately, if my factional opposition, well funded and armed via external influence and contacts, were to invoked the ire of a powerful external power with whom i hold no animosity. i would be a fool not to seek an alliance especially if my survival hangs by a thread. As the saying goes, " the enemy of my enemy is my friend." As was the case for the northern alliance.
scaurus 2 years ago
ok, the russians would come into your country burn everything, destroy everything and kill millions of people, and after they would have won the war they would take control, and you would really like that to happen???
Dhaune 2 years ago
And who emulates the russians in your exemplary scenario. The highly scutinized 43 nations of the ISAF or the fundamentalistic taliban and their affliates who are accountable to no-one but themselves? Do you honestly believe the ISAF or nato are mainly there to kill, burn and maim? And to what end i ask?
scaurus 2 years ago
so the politicians and the governments in power achieve their sick plans
Dhaune 2 years ago
For us civilians at home, we can make opinions and criticisms of the war and it's participants, but based on hindsight, along with second hand accounts, and declarations from the taliban themselves; which are obviously self-serving.Also we sometimes fail to acknowledge that incompetency, fog of war, and yes, stupidity, play their role to tragedies in this conflict, despite our sophisticated tech
scaurus 2 years ago
what is war other than stupidity, its the work of governments and sick power hungry bastards
Dhaune 2 years ago
You and i want only good for the afghans though we differ on how that good will come
about.You say withdraw because we shouldn't be there, us being there gets innocents killed and eventual stability will come. Afghanistan was left to it's own devices once after the soviet-afghan war and it's continual instability and resulting tenure to extremists caused the global community and the afghans to pay for it years later through our apathy and indulgence.
scaurus 2 years ago
you know each person dies only once in a lifetime, there are no re-spawn points in afghanistan ;)
Dhaune 2 years ago 2
you are right, there are countless ways of how peace can come about, people need to be educated not politically but spiritually, but before that happens there is no way of creating and preserving a better world, knowledge is everything
Dhaune 2 years ago
Aw that's too bad. If those towel heads would stand up to the Taliban and not allow them in their communities then they wouldn't be blown to peaces by an air strike.
EvolutionAFact 2 years ago 4
Too right, it was sickening when i read in the paper that 10 British soldiers gave their lives in order for these rag 'eads to vote,but only 150 out of a potential 80,000 did so.
tebbs94 2 years ago 2
It is a fact that taliban use civilians in that way but that doesnt mean the US and NATO army is innocent for ie "smart" weapon misfires
m4trix87 2 years ago