Far too many errors here. one of the basic rules of seamanship is not get too close to a lee-shore. Novices often make the mistake of getting too close because they want to be near land.
Its not particularly windy (the sea is glassy on the wave faces), so if he'd stayed further out, he would have had no drama, even with no jib. There would have certainly been more time for any "rescue" effort. In deep water that wave would have just rolled under the boat.
fantastic video... the helicopter pilot has balls and skills. and the father who probably should never have been there with his 2yrs old in the first place is a lucky bastard.
That guy should be jailed for taking a 2-year old out in such conditions when he barely knows how to sail. I wonder if he's a Hoofer Sailing Club instructor. What a moron.
Sailer should have thrown his anchor LONG before he ended up in the surf. Once he was in the surf he should NOT have been on the deck. This moron put the rescue crews in mortal danger for his own stupidity.
Guys, thank you for all of the comments. I'm learning a lot with these 'fail' videos. No use ruining the rescuers' day too, as well as mussing your boat.
No wonder his engine failed. The remains of the jib must have jammed the propeller. Before starting the engine on a sailboat you should doble check that you don't have any lines or whatever hangng overboard
The boom is not 'loose' in the strictest sense. It is held out to the port side. The boom vang has been connected to the port rail. That keeps the boom from swinging around much (until at least he looses he whole rig).
I agree with the suggestion that streaming a 'warp' (line, rope, anything, ...) from the bow MAY have made for a less disastrous situation.
That sailboat is what... 27-feet? Way too damn small to be in bluewater. That's a lake boat. Guaranteed that the "skipper" knows little about sailing, also that he walked away from the boat and never got in one again.
Too bad they never say what put the sailboat dead in the water. It looked like he still had sails up and there was wind obviously but for some reason he was stationary except for the waves. Also, this is why there are safety harneses on boats and they should be used. It is hard to tell from the video, but it appears he was not wearing a PFD. The rescuers got caught in a bad situation as well in too small a boat for the conditions. Glad to see all survived though.
I've sailed, and can figure this one out. He's in a sloop and was running mainsail and jib. He hit bad weather and dropped the main, using the jib alone to keep headway. Wind shredded the jib to ribbons, so he went to motor... uh oh!.. motor won't start. So, he raised the only sail he had... the main. Now, no wind to hold a course (sail is luffing), yet the waves are still rolling. Can't steer, catches a 20-footer on the port beam and is dismasted.
Notice the difference here. The power boat was rolled and stayed rolled. The sail boat was rolled, dis-masted, and no one but a 2 year old aboard and it was still floating and upright.
Notice the sloop gets knocked down and rights itself and the child is OK below. The Rescue boat didn't do as well. A testimony to sailboats. Only a submarine would have done better.
No shit. Good pilot in the helicopter. Hovering right off the water with waves that high, he must be nuts. At least it all worked out, I guess. I hope that guy on the sailboat took some more lessons on sailing a boat before he takes one out again. I'm no expert, but even I can see him fucking up everywhere.
well use the second jib halyard to make a temporary forestay, get rid of the jib, ease on the backstay, and try to get out of there, or deploy asea anchor and bring the main down but hobby sailors like this don't have sea anchors because it is an expense ....
To the people who think he should have just sailed out, to me it looks like his forestay has failed. If he tried to sheet in the main to head to windward he would probably have been dismasted without the help of the breaking wave.
If you look closely the boom IS secured (mainsheet to lifelines), and I believed the original comments to the video (that you chose not to copy) included something about rudder and engine failures, which would explain why he is sideways. Bucket might have helped though.
Also, if he brought the jib in, it would just be thrown overboard again by the next wave unless he had the time to pack it up and store below deck. Not an easy job alone in this.
This is why Dutch rescue boat also have a self-turning system (or how do you call that in English?)
I agree about deploying a shute. It whould keep the sailing boat perpendicular to the waves. There's one particular system which consists of many small shutes tied together (instead of one large one). We've bought one when crossing the Altantic. The advantage over one large shute is it spreads the force over all the little ones. Mallfunction of one shute is no problem then.
Is it just me or are the "rescue" ppl here just multiplying the risks over and over. Helicopter was just being stupid crazy for some ppl that weren't really in much trouble. Could have all actually been as serious as the commentators voice with them all being so amateur.
I had a similar situation to this but in a narrow channel in my sailboat, I motored over a pot bouy and the rope wrapped round the prop. before you all go you shoulda seen the bouy I was single handed and had no idea the bouy was there, however its becomes a matter of sailing and after 7 hours of short tacking I escaped the channel, thats why boats with masts and sails are called sailboats. I use the sails as my MAIN propolsion system and the engine as a secondary unit.
He should have sheeted in that main and headed towards the waves or at least at angle and sailed out of there. You can't let waves like that broadside you. I would never go out alone with my 2.5 year old. I can't watch my kid and sail effectively at the same time, especially if an emergency comes up. How would he let his jib drag like that. He should pull it out of the water so he can make headway. No engine is no big deal. My engine failed on Memorial day with barely any wind.
Not being funny but it doesn't look particularly windy to me looking at the water. It appears that he has been caught in the surf. It does look like he has got his jib sheet wrapped round the prop when he dropped the jib. The lack of wind probably did not help him escape the surf which would have pushed him back. Poor man.
One thing about the sea it can ALWAYS catch you out!
Complicated situation here. But a yacht like this CAN ride out almost any storm. However, there is only one way to deal with waves: take them from the front.
Must use the mainsail to keep the nose into the wind. In strong wind, it should have been reeled in the most possible. It's difficult to, with the mainsail keeping the nose in the wind, capsize a boat, but it sure WILL lean over! However, using a genoa in these conditions is wrong. Also, should have rid the genoa before trying the engine.
But whit just one mainsail and no jib, it's realy hard to sail. whit a jib it's not to hard to work whit the rudder, but if you just hav an mainsail it's not going forward that much.
But why didn't he take in a bit of the sail?
Whit to much sail it's just horrible to try to do something...
it's called a sailboat. the guy still had a fine mainsail, he could have sailed out. He needed to get his ass up forward and drag that headsail out of the water. He probably lost his engine when the lines tangled the prop.The kid probably took a big dump in the cabin when it rolled, good for her....
Well, practically all sailboats with a keel can upright itself, as long as they close the cabin to not let any water in.
I agree with the comments you wrote here on the right, and people who don't have enough experience or knowledge shoudn't be sailing on open water by themselves.
Though this situation really sucks for the poor guy.
I'd like to point that not all sailboats can and would right themselves... He was lucky to drum that wave.
A chute is to slow down your vessel in high winds and waves... A sailor wouldn't want to take waves from stern since it would flood the cockpit then the cabin...
And yes, it would be nice for him to get some training before going out, especailly in those conditions...
Far too many errors here. one of the basic rules of seamanship is not get too close to a lee-shore. Novices often make the mistake of getting too close because they want to be near land.
Its not particularly windy (the sea is glassy on the wave faces), so if he'd stayed further out, he would have had no drama, even with no jib. There would have certainly been more time for any "rescue" effort. In deep water that wave would have just rolled under the boat.
madyottie 6 months ago
fantastic video... the helicopter pilot has balls and skills. and the father who probably should never have been there with his 2yrs old in the first place is a lucky bastard.
eruseron 1 year ago
That guy should be jailed for taking a 2-year old out in such conditions when he barely knows how to sail. I wonder if he's a Hoofer Sailing Club instructor. What a moron.
hooferatlarge 1 year ago
Sailer should have thrown his anchor LONG before he ended up in the surf. Once he was in the surf he should NOT have been on the deck. This moron put the rescue crews in mortal danger for his own stupidity.
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
was für ein cooler Heli Pilot
Claasinator001 1 year ago
still...it gives me the chills watching the wipe out....
SydAnneB 1 year ago
Thats not the USCG
jbkimble28 1 year ago
Guys, thank you for all of the comments. I'm learning a lot with these 'fail' videos. No use ruining the rescuers' day too, as well as mussing your boat.
VolkgartenBySquirrel 1 year ago
No wonder his engine failed. The remains of the jib must have jammed the propeller. Before starting the engine on a sailboat you should doble check that you don't have any lines or whatever hangng overboard
SkyyCaptainn 1 year ago
The boom is not 'loose' in the strictest sense. It is held out to the port side. The boom vang has been connected to the port rail. That keeps the boom from swinging around much (until at least he looses he whole rig).
I agree with the suggestion that streaming a 'warp' (line, rope, anything, ...) from the bow MAY have made for a less disastrous situation.
Naliano 1 year ago
First rule of mother nature is that it has no mercy......
Darthbelal 1 year ago
That sailboat is what... 27-feet? Way too damn small to be in bluewater. That's a lake boat. Guaranteed that the "skipper" knows little about sailing, also that he walked away from the boat and never got in one again.
mnpd007 1 year ago
jesus, these ppl nust be americans.
janaxel1 1 year ago
Too bad they never say what put the sailboat dead in the water. It looked like he still had sails up and there was wind obviously but for some reason he was stationary except for the waves. Also, this is why there are safety harneses on boats and they should be used. It is hard to tell from the video, but it appears he was not wearing a PFD. The rescuers got caught in a bad situation as well in too small a boat for the conditions. Glad to see all survived though.
DouglasMiles1 1 year ago
@DouglasMiles1
I've sailed, and can figure this one out. He's in a sloop and was running mainsail and jib. He hit bad weather and dropped the main, using the jib alone to keep headway. Wind shredded the jib to ribbons, so he went to motor... uh oh!.. motor won't start. So, he raised the only sail he had... the main. Now, no wind to hold a course (sail is luffing), yet the waves are still rolling. Can't steer, catches a 20-footer on the port beam and is dismasted.
mnpd007 1 year ago
You woulda sucked just as bad or more, sorry to break it to you. Anyone can be an armchair quarterback.
TheADog 1 year ago
i would have vomitted.
roygbiv330 1 year ago
Notice the difference here. The power boat was rolled and stayed rolled. The sail boat was rolled, dis-masted, and no one but a 2 year old aboard and it was still floating and upright.
DouglasMiles1 1 year ago
Wow... I heard sailboats can turn up right by it self, be had to see it to believe.
pzr5gx 1 year ago
idiots
andela75 1 year ago
OWNED
stwaertwalsh12 1 year ago
Even after getting rolled he still didn't close the cabin! Please tell me he lost the door.
rockraven00 1 year ago
Notice the sloop gets knocked down and rights itself and the child is OK below. The Rescue boat didn't do as well. A testimony to sailboats. Only a submarine would have done better.
Nahart51 1 year ago
No shit. Good pilot in the helicopter. Hovering right off the water with waves that high, he must be nuts. At least it all worked out, I guess. I hope that guy on the sailboat took some more lessons on sailing a boat before he takes one out again. I'm no expert, but even I can see him fucking up everywhere.
justforever96 2 years ago
flunkies
bellportskateboards 2 years ago
Probably the jib is stuck in the propeller...
jmgpi 2 years ago
what a bunch of plonkers
niallmacallister 2 years ago
well use the second jib halyard to make a temporary forestay, get rid of the jib, ease on the backstay, and try to get out of there, or deploy asea anchor and bring the main down but hobby sailors like this don't have sea anchors because it is an expense ....
a6km 2 years ago
To the people who think he should have just sailed out, to me it looks like his forestay has failed. If he tried to sheet in the main to head to windward he would probably have been dismasted without the help of the breaking wave.
dragomiloff59 2 years ago
Why repost an old video with made up comments?
If you look closely the boom IS secured (mainsheet to lifelines), and I believed the original comments to the video (that you chose not to copy) included something about rudder and engine failures, which would explain why he is sideways. Bucket might have helped though.
Also, if he brought the jib in, it would just be thrown overboard again by the next wave unless he had the time to pack it up and store below deck. Not an easy job alone in this.
tubeweb 2 years ago
This is why Dutch rescue boat also have a self-turning system (or how do you call that in English?)
I agree about deploying a shute. It whould keep the sailing boat perpendicular to the waves. There's one particular system which consists of many small shutes tied together (instead of one large one). We've bought one when crossing the Altantic. The advantage over one large shute is it spreads the force over all the little ones. Mallfunction of one shute is no problem then.
crypsnjord 2 years ago
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crypsnjord 2 years ago
>> Why didn't he just sail on the main?
There doesn't look to have been a lot of wind. There are breaking waves from swell, but not much sign of wind.
He probably should have deployed his anchor before getting into the breaking waves.
dklwiigt 2 years ago
Why didn't he just sail on the main?
jaocheu 2 years ago
Is it just me or are the "rescue" ppl here just multiplying the risks over and over. Helicopter was just being stupid crazy for some ppl that weren't really in much trouble. Could have all actually been as serious as the commentators voice with them all being so amateur.
mryellow123 2 years ago 7
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JBDiscrete 2 years ago
I had a similar situation to this but in a narrow channel in my sailboat, I motored over a pot bouy and the rope wrapped round the prop. before you all go you shoulda seen the bouy I was single handed and had no idea the bouy was there, however its becomes a matter of sailing and after 7 hours of short tacking I escaped the channel, thats why boats with masts and sails are called sailboats. I use the sails as my MAIN propolsion system and the engine as a secondary unit.
LuvMyBoat1 2 years ago
He should have sheeted in that main and headed towards the waves or at least at angle and sailed out of there. You can't let waves like that broadside you. I would never go out alone with my 2.5 year old. I can't watch my kid and sail effectively at the same time, especially if an emergency comes up. How would he let his jib drag like that. He should pull it out of the water so he can make headway. No engine is no big deal. My engine failed on Memorial day with barely any wind.
pcp777 2 years ago
fuck em danno...
bowstem 2 years ago
How do you go past a yacht with a 40 foot mast, on a clear day, and not see it??? Fools!!!
Ramblin66man 2 years ago
This helicopter rescue method where you climb on a skid looks ridiculously dangerous. Why not use the standard rescue line and strop?
msf60khz 3 years ago
That was one hell of a pilot.
tjsulli790 3 years ago 2
"somehow, he manages to hang on"; "somehow" being, DEAR LIFE, maybe?
morebullshi 3 years ago 2
Not being funny but it doesn't look particularly windy to me looking at the water. It appears that he has been caught in the surf. It does look like he has got his jib sheet wrapped round the prop when he dropped the jib. The lack of wind probably did not help him escape the surf which would have pushed him back. Poor man.
One thing about the sea it can ALWAYS catch you out!
gdjfudge1 3 years ago 2
Well said...the sea is after all a great leveller, it knows no respect for ones experience or skills!!
nicksaunders264 3 years ago
General rule for sailing folks. If it can it will
Crisdean003 2 years ago 2
he was only 100 yards from the beach....
jsunrise 3 years ago
Lol, the boom's not as deadly as you think..
scottythecaek 3 years ago
thank you so much for this video
llamanator3000 3 years ago
Complicated situation here. But a yacht like this CAN ride out almost any storm. However, there is only one way to deal with waves: take them from the front.
Must use the mainsail to keep the nose into the wind. In strong wind, it should have been reeled in the most possible. It's difficult to, with the mainsail keeping the nose in the wind, capsize a boat, but it sure WILL lean over! However, using a genoa in these conditions is wrong. Also, should have rid the genoa before trying the engine.
mbonkie 3 years ago 2
The problem is that the cable which hold the jib is dead... So, it's going hard to use the mainsail without breaking something more.
Nevertheless, he should show his back to the waves.
Turlute2006 3 years ago
But whit just one mainsail and no jib, it's realy hard to sail. whit a jib it's not to hard to work whit the rudder, but if you just hav an mainsail it's not going forward that much.
But why didn't he take in a bit of the sail?
Whit to much sail it's just horrible to try to do something...
limpojansson 3 years ago
it's called a sailboat. the guy still had a fine mainsail, he could have sailed out. He needed to get his ass up forward and drag that headsail out of the water. He probably lost his engine when the lines tangled the prop.The kid probably took a big dump in the cabin when it rolled, good for her....
jcdevlin63 3 years ago 2
that is why I stay in the harbour when I'm sailing alone!
bf2fsxcod4412 3 years ago
Well, practically all sailboats with a keel can upright itself, as long as they close the cabin to not let any water in.
I agree with the comments you wrote here on the right, and people who don't have enough experience or knowledge shoudn't be sailing on open water by themselves.
Though this situation really sucks for the poor guy.
Aristotalloss2 3 years ago
I'd like to point that not all sailboats can and would right themselves... He was lucky to drum that wave.
A chute is to slow down your vessel in high winds and waves... A sailor wouldn't want to take waves from stern since it would flood the cockpit then the cabin...
And yes, it would be nice for him to get some training before going out, especailly in those conditions...
amtdesign 4 years ago 4