Thanks for that! And I'm trying to get the axl style down by singing and sounding like it shakes a pain of glass. If you understand what I mean, like that extra edge on the note. :)
Kevin, I've been trying real hard to get a long wail (Sebastian Bach style) but after a bit my voice cracks. I'm only 14 and I understand it's probably puberty, but I want to sound more like Sebastian and axl rose. Could you give me some tips?
@theabgchannel - yeah takes a few years of vocal training and practice an hour a day for that same time. Thats what those guys did. You are 14 and trying to sound like the voices of mature male singers. Even after all that you may not sound like them. You might have a completely different voice that isn't suited for that type of sound.
Kevin, could you please explain the thing about feeling the resonance in the very back of the roof of the mouth (BTC CD1) I`ve heard that "this feeling" is especially helpful in discovering mix voice. Is that truth? If I still don`t have a full voice while singing, should I train my higher notes with an apple position, "searching" for the resonance?
@stickittoya1981 - The "back of the roof of the mouth" is where the soft palate resides and where your mouth opens up into the back of your nasal cavity. This "sweet spot" is essential to discover the proper way to "mix" your sound as you go from chest to head resonances. Make a hard "K" sound like in "kite". That's the spot.
You need to get the middle voice solid before attempting to train the high notes as the middle/mix notes will set up the support for the high notes.
Mr Richards, I have been watching all these videos and writting down all the lessons ir order to create a personal "Excersise schedule" for practising every day, but when I watched this one I got stucked into a question.
I've watched the previous one and learned the "nonnnnn" excersise for applying resonance, but here, you start from a falsetto note. And that's my problem. Im a newbie, and I dont know how to convert my normal voice into falsetto. Please, a tip will be apreciatted :)
@Franciscoamestoy - anyone can do falsetto. Just speak something really airy and breathy. Thats falsetto. Its the ONLY vocal mode that doesn't need to be taught.
very good videos man (: i am trying to learn how to sing (: but i have a doubt... When head voice starts sounding good? xD ajjaaj i am doing it fine but it just dont sound good... When i hear you amd halford... Just practice?
I've been getting a little better watching your videos! I'm coming to NYC to street perform for a few weeks. I am going to drop off my CD at your location. And who knows I might even set up outside for a show!!...if u're (un)lucky enough to hear my horrible voice+kickass rock music! :D
i can go really high, can sing stratovarius... and been singing in a band for 12 years, but the high screaming i can't do :D bizarre, some people can't sing high but the high scream they can do :0
@darklightraven - that was me at one time - I could sing F5 to A5 notes but could sing between Bb4 and F5. It takes basically starting over in your mix area and slowly working your range up from F#4.
every time i see your videos dude i get better!! tnx a lot ! bro! hell i can even death growl better lol i think my air usage if gotten better or something anyway tnx again man
I think I'm hearing some wicked 2-octave overtone at around 2:41.... I suppose that's part of the resonance, on not just something the camera-mic made up? Maybe even created by the false chords? Or from the resonating skull?
@Sarrgas - its part of the resonance and part of the vocal cord phonation I'm doing here. I'm using the fine edges of the cords to do the example because I didn't want to overload the camera mic. In doing so I created some additional little overtones that are almost whistle in nature.
I've been listening to phil a bit...good singer no doubt... his voice is not as high as it may seem to you, technically i'm a low baritone and I can follow him relatively easily as far as pitch, however with vocal character more like audioslave.......with that in mind, I have no doubt that you can accomplish your goal....phil is in a common range, maybe lower than normal. (however developed)... It may not take as long to develop as you may think....So go for it! (just dont break anything!)
all right, I can do that, but it ain't gonna help me. I need more like glam metal voice. like philip anselmo (from pantera when he was young) if you know who he is... his high notes are full blast from his stomach... or maybe not, but they pretty much sound like that... something like Halford but much stronger... more powerfull.. i don't know... and you just can't do that with a falsetto... I was looking everywhere to find the "secret" behind that kind of singing... any suggestions?
@uranium993 - OK lets get this out of the way - THERE ARE NO SECRETS IN SINGING. Learning to sing with power and brilliance takes long hours of practice over a period of years. There is no "switch" you can turn on and your voice sounds like that - it takes years of conditioning and building muscle. UNLESS you are blessed with the exact same kind of voice as Phil Anselmo or Rob Halford. But even they were singing for years before they were discovered.
@RocktheStageNYC Kevin, i need help, i've been trying my best and practicing constantly, but there is one obstacle that i can't get past. Puberty. I'm only fifteen, so my voice is constantly cracking and I cant reach the high notes no matter how hard I try. Is there a way around this? or do I just have to wait it out? Please reply.
@EpikNinjuh22 - I have taught singers around your age and your problem is partially puberty and partially poor breath support. As you enter puberty your larynx grows and your vocal cords thicken (hence the lowering of the voice), that can't be helped until you grow out of it a bit, but the cracking can also just be bad breath support and not enough singing with the body.
@uranium993 ...For me, I find it works if I drop my upper palette yet leave it relaxed, then add width to the natural way I would hold my mouth...then its a matter of adding enough pressure so it feels like the front of your face will detach....you might get it then....but be careful, if it hurts stop and change technique until you find it...You may never sound like your vocal idols...but you can find something with experimentation that will work for you...
and I know I'll never sound like my idols... and I DON'T want to.... I just want to achieve that high pitched voice... with phil anselmo as my raw model :D
I have a question about head voice! (you are very helpful with those videos) how does pharynge feels like in head voice? Like in falsetto? Contracted?
When I sing high notes, over my chest voice (Metal thrashing mad intro, for example) I can use falsetto (and I don't feel any strain in my head) or I scream it strong and I feel my head and my neck very pushed, but my pharynge is contracted. It's ok? Am I using head voice, or just a strong falsetto?
@Tomgrandelf - using pharyngeal contraction carries no constriction whatsoever. If you feel a squeeze you are either doing it way too much or are NOT using pharyngeal contractions but simplt squeezing muscles in your neck.
@jmdodge - its important to do it without a high larynx anyway. A lower larynx will give you a more open, throaty sound. It depends on how low you put the larynx. Too low and your voice becomes to muddy.
You really don't have to twang low notes as they generally have an "edge" to them naturally. Its the higher, lighter notes that need the twang to keep them clear and not too "hooty" or hollow sounding.
@RocktheStageNYC I can't seem to decouple the sound quality from just using a really high larynx, which I guess is why I was curious about lower notes - hearing the bite on a lower note might help me carry up the sound without the high larynx, but right now the two are just one and the same for me. Any examples/suggestions?
@jmdodge - Twanging a lower note will not help you keep your larynx from rising; it will just make a low note less muddy.
Keeping the larynx from shooting up under your chin is a process that takes time and concentration. I have some videos in this channel on straining that can help you start that process.
@MissClarinda - the "metal voice" here is exaggerated for effect. Its not a "finished" sound; just an example of an embellishment you can add to the voice.
I call it "metal bite" but it also goes by the names of "twang", "ping" and to a lesser degree in Opera "squillo"
@RocktheStageNYC hm. oh, okay. cool . Thanx for your reply :-) I think, if you know what the leadsinger of Aerosmith sounds like, Steven Tyler, he's doing that 'metal voice' all the time LOL... am I right?
There are two things that help with the Halford's famed "Painkiller" voice. The first is volume. He is an extremely loud singer. (The amazing Ralf Scheepers,who many call a Halford clone,is also an extremely loud singer.) The second thing is a super high "hidden" and "fixed" voice box. Pull your voice box up under your neckline/behind your tongue. Use the muscles on the sides of your neck to do this- it will be tense. Sing loud and keep the voicebox cemented in position.
Watch some clips of Rob Halford singing "Painkiller" live. Rob always pulls his chin close his chest and stares at the floor for that voice. If you do that it automatically pulls the voicebox into the fixed position where it needs to be for that type of voice. You don't have to stare at the floor to get the voicebox into the right position. It does help though and that's what the metal masters Halford and the previously mentioned Scheepers do for that sound.
@TimeLordGuitar - Halford bends forward for breath support not to get a vocal effect. Tucking the chin inward does NOTHING to affect the larynx position. Only the lifter muscles used in swallowing can pull the larynx upward. If you use the lifter or Degrastic muscles you are adding unneeded tension and constriction. If look at Halford closely he bent forward but his neck is relatively straight. He's just bending at the waist for breath support.
Yeah I know man- it's a very tense and constricted sound that is certainly NOT a "safe" everyday vocal technique. It's interesting that nearly every metal vocalist that does their own version of the famed Halford metal shriek uses the same posture as Rob to do that voice (Sheepers,Owens,Peck,etc.) Those guys are definitely tensed up and not relaxed at all when doing the shriek. You can physically see their neck muscles tightening up in order to do it.
@TimeLordGuitar - yeah well that just speaks of inproper vocal technique. There should be NO tension in the neck whatsoever. There are safe ways to make those sounds without tension. I suck at them but I've seen plenty of guys do a "Painkiller" type sound without tension. Halford gets that sound by tensing because thats the ONLY way HE can make it happen. Its not easy for him.
I'm sure Owens did it for visual effect because I've seen clips of him pre-Priest doing it and he's NOT bent over.
@RocktheStageNYC What about James Hetfield? He had a very particular voice in the first ten years with metallica, specially in 1991. I guess he did those vocals the wrong way, I mean he pushed his voice and that's why he damaged it.
@Fedeleven - Hetfield was damaged his voice over the years and was starting to lose it. If you watch their film "Some Kind of Monster" he talks about that problem and consults a vocal coach to learn how to not damage it any further..
@TimeLordGuitar - dude what you are describing is extremely dangerous to do. Tensing in the neck using the outer muscles leads to constriction and strain. The larynx (voicebox) should never be super high in the throat. That constricts and chokes off the sound. The throat needs to be open and relaxed. You NEVER strain from the neck and pull the larynx way up under the chin. If you know anatomy of the larynx you'll know thats completely counterproductive to producing volume.
At first i would like to say that i don't know if i am tenor or baritone. If im tenor then rather low one. Dramatic maybe.
But the point is i want to sing higher, for example Kai Hansen songs. Lets take bad scenario, let's say im baritone. Would I be ever able to sing those songs ?
@Scorpionee - sure you can. I'm a low baritone and I can sing Kai Hansen stuff. It just takes the right training to learn how to connect chest to head registers and stay in full voice.
hi:) I need help ehm I´m trying to make a heavy metal scream like eric adams for an example but my voice can only do a falsetto in a very low voice (by low voice I mean not loud) and I have an normal voice like rob halford or eric adams whatever but when I try to dp louder it someway either turns to a darker or it sounds like someone cut of my penis! so please anyone who read this if you can please help!
@TheKrulltott - you are not ready for Eric Adams screams if all you can manage is low volume falsetto. You're in over your head. You can't run before you can walk. Getting high, powerful screams takes a solid foundation of vocal technique first.
How does one contract the throat space without putting undue pressure on the larynx? Also, is the "grinding sound" in the high notes produced by the vocal cords themselves, or by irregularities in the contracted pharynx, or what?
@TorturedXeno - contracting or squeezing of the pharynx (throat) has nothing to do with the larynx as the pharynx sits above the larynx and extends into the nasal cavity. You can make the inside of your pharynx smooth or rough edged. The rougher the edge the more "cut" or "bite" your tone has. You are effecting the sound AFTER its produced by the vocal cords.
The often used whiny "Nah" sound is a pharyngeal contraction. Its a very subtle movement. The difference between a nudge and a push.
@TorturedXeno - sure. The basics of classical technique/pedagogy in terms of consistent and solid breath support from the waist, a relaxed, open throat sound, and the covering of lower head tones can easily be adapted to Rock singing. "Speech Level Singing" (supposedly adapted from Bel Canto) teaches relatively nothing about solid breath support or an open throat, covered sound.
Rock singing is by nature a very intense sound just like Classical so they share a lot in common in intensity.
@RocktheStageNYC You say that you were classically trained, and you use classical techniques for some (not all) areas of voice development. In what ways does your approach differ from, let's say, a teacher who uses only classical technique to teach contemporary singing (e.g., Rocchio and Vendera)? And where do the two meet on common ground?
@TorturedXeno - All singing uses the same basics principles of technique in terms of production of sound. Its what you do with that sound that determines genre or style. My ideology is similar to Bruce Lee who was schooled in all areas of martial arts. He took what was useful for actual fighting and discarded the rest that was just "showy". I try to learn from every aspect of voice pedagogy, then use what I think works quickly and makes sense for the modern singer, and discard the rest.
You describe yourself as a teacher with experience in rock, pop, and metal. Well, firstly, how come you differentiate between rock and metal? Isn't metal a subgenre of rock? Secondly, how do you define 'pop'? Are we talkin' Josh Groban or Taylor Swift here? Or is your definition of pop something more hardcore?
@TorturedXeno - Rock singing (to me) is anything that doesn't involve screaming or distortion. (Bon Jovi, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin) Metal singing has those embellishments (Accept, Slayer, Avenged Sevenfold) but there are exceptions to Metal like Helloween and Queensryche and exceptions to Rock like Cheap Trick and Bryan Adams who use lots of rasp. Pop is more about the songwriting than the singing - The Beatles were mainly a Pop band but had lots of heavy Rock singing and some screams in songs.
@goblah5 - you have to have that falsetto ability already somewhat. Its built into his vice naturally so its very easy for him. I cannot do that type of "screamy falsetto" that he does. My voice is too bottom heavy for it.
Hey, I'm having a lot of trouble with the breathing. I can only expand my diaphragm a little bit, becuase i start having a really uncomfortable lesson, almost like im gonna burst. Is this normal?
I'm really curious about something and it's been bothering me. In SLS training, the pharyngeal is a huge focus, but they don't mention producing twang with a conscious control of contracting certain muscles. They mention a "cry." Are these similar ideas?
@wildcataosw - Cry, sob, witches cackle, its all the same. Witches cackle or metal bite is a bit more intense than the sob or cry but they achieve the same result. I highly resonant sound with lots of presence and cut.
@arataki1 - nope. Falsetto is still falsetto no matter what you add to it. You have to get the compression or adduction/connected sound going first then add resonance, edge, & volume.
What you're describing would be a twangy, reinforced falsetto. But falsetto nonetheless.
I've watched almost all of your videos, and I can handle most everything you've taught safely.
My only real question, albeit slightly stupid, is about trying to get a specific tone in mixed voice. I'm sure you've heard of Ted Neeley? I'm trying to figure out how to get that particular tone to my screams. See "Gethsemane (I only want to say)" from Jesus Christ Superstar. If I could get any tips on getting that tone, I'd be much appreciative :)
@Valcarion - which version of Neeley's "Gesthemane" - the original fro 1973 or the one from just a few years ago? His tone changed over the years as his voice darkened and matured from age. His voice got "screamier" as he got older due to age.
i have a question, when it try to use my head voice my voice just mutes, its just air coming out! and when i can hear the voice, the volume is extremey low and the sound is weak, what do i do?
i hope you understand what im sayin, this is really hard to explain.
I have a short question. When i try to sing Halfrod-esque vocals, my voice cracks into like a little girl scream thing. Is it because of Mucus build up or is it pushing too hard? I just started experimenting with this stuff cuz i usually do a Hetfield Chuck Billy style, but i thought it would be cool to do both.
@krtbossman - do you know how to sing cleanly and at a low volume in the higher ranges? If not, stay away from doing the high, loud stuff. It all starts with clean, light sounds, then you learn how to "press" to get louder, fuller and edgier sounds.
if you're voice is "squeaking out", there's too much tension.
I have a short question, when i try to sing Halford-esque vocals, sometimes my voice cracks into like a little girl scream. Is it because of mucus build up because as soon as i hock a loogie it goes away or am I trying to add too much bite?
Hi i have 4 short questions first, when i try to sing in falsetto my voice is very ''airy'' i can hear very much air at the same time as i sing the note,2 when i sing low in my chest voice i can feel my diafragm but as i go higher in my chest voice the feeling dissepears and my voice get weaker why is that?, 3 in metal screams scould i use my vocal cords and push them toghether to get a higher note or schould all the power come fram the stomach,4 is resonance when i put my vocal cords together?
@MrDasuber - short questions? well the answers are not short but the best answer is to watch my other videos on falsetto, head voice, why your voice breaks etc.
I'm having a problem maybe you can shed some light on. Between your two resonance videos, I successfully added a good deal of resonance to my chest voice and have successfully pulled off decent "witches cackles" or high-note screaming (obviously not done in chest voice but in head voice/falsetto) the problem is that my resonant head voice and resonant chest voice just sound like two totally different people singing, I'm having trouble connecting the two when I apply this in song, any tips?
@gtrsoundz590 - you have practice singing from chest voice into head voice with octave or 1.5 octave legato exercises. That way you can learn how to apply just the right amount of resonance as you ascend to make it sound like one voice.
So i just recently started a band with my friends and i'm the vocalist. (we play metal) I just started doing vocals when we got together never learned any of this.
My question is do you know any sites i can go to for help learning more about my voice if you know what i mean?
will it be possible for me, to achieve the Tim Ripper tone by applying this to my singing?For example, will i be able to sing the screams from ''The green manalishi''
with a powerful voice, and sounding like a girl, by doing this?
I've watched a couple of your videos and I really like your style of teaching: I learned to sing in high school chorus, but I like learning new styles (other than the basic boring) & have loved metal most of my life & always wondered how to apply that classic Bruce Dickinson sound to a female's voice. I'm so excited to try your exercises! Thanks for taking the time!
@JeffUpdike1992 - you're only 22 and don't really know what a REAL metal scream is. You probably think screaming as that low, emo, cookie monster crap. That;s growling. Screams are up high and much harder to do then growling in your low range.
@RocktheStageNYC i couldn't agree with you more man, i have been searching for high pitch metal screams for ages , and keep finding teenagers trying to do it, not good , anyway if you have time, which i doubt, could you check out the coverband "Downlode" playing sweet child of mine on youtube, from 3:05- 3:27 and also from 5:01 - end, the singer has this amazing transformation from normal voice to an awesome metal scream, how does he do this , i wish i new. any ideas? its awesome live too
@stebolian - he is doing rasp. Some people can just do it and some can't. I am in the "can't category. I've yet to come across anyone who can do it that can tell me how they do it exactly. Its a quirk of their vocal cords not closing completely and it gets raspy.
I don't get hung up on "classifications" with singers. Your voice is only limited by you. I can go from G1 to C6 - my speaking voice is actually lower than what you hear in my videos. I speak higher to make it more resonant and punchier but my actual speaking voice is quite low.
How "heavy" a voice sound does determine some natural range. Heavier voicse have shorter and thicker cords, high voices have long and thin cords. Long and thin cords make high notes easier.
how long should this get to do, i think im doing it but im not sure (adding resonance to my falsetto.) should i do the "robot" and the "witchs cat" or just the cat? i can kinda see how its working and why i just donno if im doing it right...
i see. i can kinda do it i just feel like im not doing it right, so many people look like their straining so much to do it or bend their bodys weird to do it...
Hi! i have heard that if you sing right your adams apple schould not move. I have tried to sing in front of a mirror but when i try to sing higher i really feel that im just using my throat and my adams apple move up to a point to when i cant sing higher. Do you have an exercise so i can learn to sing higher and right:
Look at my other videos in mixed voice and head voice. There are tips in those to keep your larynx low.
BUT your larynx should be allowed to move a little. You just don't want it shooting up so high under your chin that it chokes you off or restricts range.
One question... How to belt head voice and falsetto? Let's say that I'm singing E5 in head voice and I need to go up to B5, but I feel that at the moment I can't go any higher in head voice and I need to connect it all to a high pitched falsetto "scream" and that I want to do it without my voice "breaking". What should I try to do? My lower falsetto notes got a bit "weakened" since I started singing in head voice, but my higher falsetto notes(E5 and up) are still strong.
B5 is below E5 so I'm not sure where you're trying to sing from.
One doesn't "belt" falsetto. You can make it sound stronger by using some chest resonance but you physically can't belt it because of the lack of cord closure.
Increasing the volume of any note takes strength and thickening in the vocal cords and more air pressure.
The B5 in Croatia is marked as B2 and E5 as E2 and it's in the same octave, but the B is higher so sorry for the confusion.
Anyway, thank you for your help. I'm working on getting some more range with my head voice. Sometimes I notice that my head voice goes into something some singers call "super head voice", but I'd like if you could shine a light on that. I know that what I'm doing is not falsetto because you explained to me how to see the difference.
When I try to add distortion to high notes (E4-E5), I can only do it by simply increasing the volume until the sound distorts. Is that a good way to do it, or can you teach us a better way? Great video, by the way! :)
What you're doing is dangerous - thats called "blowing out the cords" and is harmful to your voice.
I won't teach distortion on YouTube for free because too many people NOT ready for that kind of technique will try it and they could hurt themselves. I won't be responsible for that.
BUT I am working on a CD that deal solely with distortion, raspiness etc.
I forgot to mention that I increase twang, place the sound in my soft palate and focus on a downwards sensation in my low abs region ("power push" as J. Vendera calls it) - but I still have a increase the volume before any kind of distortion appears. It doesn't seem to kill my range singing like this with my band.
Nope. you're looking at eventual vocal damage. Proper Rasp/Grit/Distortion doesn't take volume it takes zeroing in the right vibrating area.
If you have to get loud to distort your voice its not correct technique. A lot of metal/hard rock singers from 15-20 years ago are now dealing with the damage from that kind of pushing. Chris Cornell comes to mind.
Thanks for the info. I see what you mean. But note that lots of people teach all kind of stuff, singing, martial arts, etc. and then just put a disclaimer on their material, stating that they are not responsible for any kind of injury that might occur when practising these techniques.
There are tons of screaming instructionals on youtube. Pretty much all of them suck, big time.Personally, I think you could be doing people a favor by doing a video like that and save many throats. In any case, I respect your decision.
Yes most of them suck and teach you the WRONG way to do it. My apprehension in posting a video on it is that kids who can't really sing will try this and hurt themselves. If done right under supervision from a vocal coach you can learn to do it right. Online is tricky as you need to have instant feedback whether you're doing it right or not.
Even Melissa Cross doesn't really show you how to scream in "The Zen of Screaming"
I wanted to ask you the same question about the head voice with distortion, in the style of Painkiller. Can you reply me this with a link or something than let me follow your works by mail?? Or maybe you can send me your news directly to my mail. It is andelwin_mar (h o t m a i l). I will be very grateful. Thanks
how does one even answer a question like this? If you never want to sing to anyone who cares if you're good or not? You are the only one listening to you sing.
that depends on HOW you do it. It can be VERY loud or at speaking volume. There a different ways to scream in head voice - vibrating the soft palate or vibrating the false cords. Each gives a different sound and volume.
All those "death metal" growlers aren't loud at all. Its probably a lot quieter than you'd imagine. It just looks louder.
so using the pharyngeal contractions in head voice will give it more bite but not make it much louder?
i know the growls are quiet... in fact the high screams he does have less volume than talking voice but they can get decently loud i was mostly asking about the clean screams thanks tho
hey i love your videos... i just have a few questions can you do this with you head voice cuz i don't like how girly it sounds when i do it with falsetto also can you make the falsetto scream sound warmer/bassyer. sorry one more thing im a big fan of into eternity the singer uses death metal growls and screams along with screams sorta like this can you tell me if the singer is using head voice or falsetto
Thanks for the great videos. I've always had a dull voice and have to almost scream for people to hear me in loud situations. Do you recommend I practice this technique purely whenever possible to make up for years of dullness? Or should I slowly add it over time? Thanks!
work on it right away - your friends will thank you!
Here's a slightly better way to do this for speech resonance;
say the word "sing" and hold on the "ng". Your voice will now sound dull and it'll feel like the back of your tongue is up against the roof of your mouth. Now release that feeling of the tongue and say "Gaaaaa" you should hear a sudden increase in treble in your voice. Viola! You've just added speech resonance. Now say a sentence and keep that open treble sound to your voice.
if you choke - you are in essence choking yourself. You are squeezing too hard. Do exactly as I do in the video, try to imitate my sound and you won't choke.
imitate the sound of a cat meowing - that's what it should feel like. No more, no less.
hey kevin - luv your videos mate - really good stuff. so, in regards to this clip, this is the same technique/principal that axl uses for his rock/metal vocals?
the question is actually - are you capable of singing like Alice Cooper? You can't run before you can walk so don't try to get ahead of yourself. If you have to ask that question - you're experience as a singer isn't far enough along.
I like that you want to get down & dirty like Alice but build a strong singing voice first then try to add that kind of sound to it. You won't hurt yourself if you learn the basics first.
Hi thanks for the awesome vids - I personally am after more of a Liam Gallagher/Johnny Rotten punk type sound rather than metal etc. I can do it but I'm pretty sure what
Thanks for that! And I'm trying to get the axl style down by singing and sounding like it shakes a pain of glass. If you understand what I mean, like that extra edge on the note. :)
theabgchannel 1 day ago
@theabgchannel - yes its called in my method "metallic edge". This mode adds a very sharp edge to the sound so it cuts through the music.
RocktheStageNYC 1 day ago
Is this inspired by the Estill Technique??
Thriller94 2 days ago
@Thriller94 - not directly but if you filter it down some of this comes from the Estill methods of vocal modes like fry, sob, edge etc.
RocktheStageNYC 1 day ago
Kevin, I've been trying real hard to get a long wail (Sebastian Bach style) but after a bit my voice cracks. I'm only 14 and I understand it's probably puberty, but I want to sound more like Sebastian and axl rose. Could you give me some tips?
theabgchannel 2 days ago
@theabgchannel - yeah takes a few years of vocal training and practice an hour a day for that same time. Thats what those guys did. You are 14 and trying to sound like the voices of mature male singers. Even after all that you may not sound like them. You might have a completely different voice that isn't suited for that type of sound.
Technique is different from style.
RocktheStageNYC 2 days ago
Kevin, could you please explain the thing about feeling the resonance in the very back of the roof of the mouth (BTC CD1) I`ve heard that "this feeling" is especially helpful in discovering mix voice. Is that truth? If I still don`t have a full voice while singing, should I train my higher notes with an apple position, "searching" for the resonance?
stickittoya1981 1 month ago
@stickittoya1981 - The "back of the roof of the mouth" is where the soft palate resides and where your mouth opens up into the back of your nasal cavity. This "sweet spot" is essential to discover the proper way to "mix" your sound as you go from chest to head resonances. Make a hard "K" sound like in "kite". That's the spot.
You need to get the middle voice solid before attempting to train the high notes as the middle/mix notes will set up the support for the high notes.
RocktheStageNYC 1 month ago
Mr Richards, I have been watching all these videos and writting down all the lessons ir order to create a personal "Excersise schedule" for practising every day, but when I watched this one I got stucked into a question.
I've watched the previous one and learned the "nonnnnn" excersise for applying resonance, but here, you start from a falsetto note. And that's my problem. Im a newbie, and I dont know how to convert my normal voice into falsetto. Please, a tip will be apreciatted :)
Franciscoamestoy 2 months ago
@Franciscoamestoy - anyone can do falsetto. Just speak something really airy and breathy. Thats falsetto. Its the ONLY vocal mode that doesn't need to be taught.
RocktheStageNYC 2 months ago
@RocktheStageNYC Thanks a lot ;) Im looking forward to see what I get.
Franciscoamestoy 2 months ago
very good videos man (: i am trying to learn how to sing (: but i have a doubt... When head voice starts sounding good? xD ajjaaj i am doing it fine but it just dont sound good... When i hear you amd halford... Just practice?
abuhola8 3 months ago
@Pryoge1 Then you're clearly watching the wrong video
JobForAMaxboy 3 months ago
your insane"!!!
Pryoge1 3 months ago
dude you sounded like AXL rose at the end with the scream... nice vid btw
MrSolution1996 4 months ago
The first very good explication I have seen. Thank you very much!
SwaraArmunn 5 months ago
I've been getting a little better watching your videos! I'm coming to NYC to street perform for a few weeks. I am going to drop off my CD at your location. And who knows I might even set up outside for a show!!...if u're (un)lucky enough to hear my horrible voice+kickass rock music! :D
stinson86 6 months ago
@stinson86 - You can try it they'll call the cops if you set up outside the building. There's a pizzeria next door with outdoor seating.
RocktheStageNYC 6 months ago
@RocktheStageNYC Yikes! Thanks for the heads up! I'll figure SOMETHING out!
stinson86 6 months ago
i can get a distortion in the lower and middle parts of my range (say around E1-G4)
but in my high notes they sound too clean (around A4 - D#5) i really can't do it it all sounds like a squeaky guy talking
Disco234jockey 8 months ago
@Disco234jockey - too much tension at the vocal cords.
RocktheStageNYC 6 months ago
i can go really high, can sing stratovarius... and been singing in a band for 12 years, but the high screaming i can't do :D bizarre, some people can't sing high but the high scream they can do :0
darklightraven 8 months ago
@darklightraven - that was me at one time - I could sing F5 to A5 notes but could sing between Bb4 and F5. It takes basically starting over in your mix area and slowly working your range up from F#4.
RocktheStageNYC 6 months ago
every time i see your videos dude i get better!! tnx a lot ! bro! hell i can even death growl better lol i think my air usage if gotten better or something anyway tnx again man
necrosx9 9 months ago
@necrosx9 - Thanks. Keep practicing!
RocktheStageNYC 9 months ago
I think I'm hearing some wicked 2-octave overtone at around 2:41.... I suppose that's part of the resonance, on not just something the camera-mic made up? Maybe even created by the false chords? Or from the resonating skull?
Sarrgas 11 months ago
@Sarrgas - its part of the resonance and part of the vocal cord phonation I'm doing here. I'm using the fine edges of the cords to do the example because I didn't want to overload the camera mic. In doing so I created some additional little overtones that are almost whistle in nature.
RocktheStageNYC 11 months ago
Very cool!
MrSteviesax 11 months ago
I've been listening to phil a bit...good singer no doubt... his voice is not as high as it may seem to you, technically i'm a low baritone and I can follow him relatively easily as far as pitch, however with vocal character more like audioslave.......with that in mind, I have no doubt that you can accomplish your goal....phil is in a common range, maybe lower than normal. (however developed)... It may not take as long to develop as you may think....So go for it! (just dont break anything!)
soundtechresearch 11 months ago
@soundtechresearch
go with Soundgarden instead. Chris Cornell lost his voice in Audioslave.
JoeSidhu 10 months ago
Haha our singer is known for what everyone refers to as "Halford notes" lol
AShallowGraveNJ 1 year ago
dude this really helped thx a lot
Vyperion333 1 year ago
all right, I can do that, but it ain't gonna help me. I need more like glam metal voice. like philip anselmo (from pantera when he was young) if you know who he is... his high notes are full blast from his stomach... or maybe not, but they pretty much sound like that... something like Halford but much stronger... more powerfull.. i don't know... and you just can't do that with a falsetto... I was looking everywhere to find the "secret" behind that kind of singing... any suggestions?
uranium993 1 year ago
@uranium993 - OK lets get this out of the way - THERE ARE NO SECRETS IN SINGING. Learning to sing with power and brilliance takes long hours of practice over a period of years. There is no "switch" you can turn on and your voice sounds like that - it takes years of conditioning and building muscle. UNLESS you are blessed with the exact same kind of voice as Phil Anselmo or Rob Halford. But even they were singing for years before they were discovered.
This video is about resonance not power.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago 10
@RocktheStageNYC Kevin, i need help, i've been trying my best and practicing constantly, but there is one obstacle that i can't get past. Puberty. I'm only fifteen, so my voice is constantly cracking and I cant reach the high notes no matter how hard I try. Is there a way around this? or do I just have to wait it out? Please reply.
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@EpikNinjuh22 - I have taught singers around your age and your problem is partially puberty and partially poor breath support. As you enter puberty your larynx grows and your vocal cords thicken (hence the lowering of the voice), that can't be helped until you grow out of it a bit, but the cracking can also just be bad breath support and not enough singing with the body.
RocktheStageNYC 3 weeks ago
@uranium993 ...For me, I find it works if I drop my upper palette yet leave it relaxed, then add width to the natural way I would hold my mouth...then its a matter of adding enough pressure so it feels like the front of your face will detach....you might get it then....but be careful, if it hurts stop and change technique until you find it...You may never sound like your vocal idols...but you can find something with experimentation that will work for you...
soundtechresearch 1 year ago
@soundtechresearch thanks for the tips... I'll definitely try...
and I know I'll never sound like my idols... and I DON'T want to.... I just want to achieve that high pitched voice... with phil anselmo as my raw model :D
uranium993 1 year ago
*Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian*
I have a question about head voice! (you are very helpful with those videos) how does pharynge feels like in head voice? Like in falsetto? Contracted?
When I sing high notes, over my chest voice (Metal thrashing mad intro, for example) I can use falsetto (and I don't feel any strain in my head) or I scream it strong and I feel my head and my neck very pushed, but my pharynge is contracted. It's ok? Am I using head voice, or just a strong falsetto?
Tomgrandelf 1 year ago
@Tomgrandelf - using pharyngeal contraction carries no constriction whatsoever. If you feel a squeeze you are either doing it way too much or are NOT using pharyngeal contractions but simplt squeezing muscles in your neck.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
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Tomgrandelf 1 year ago
Can you add this twang or bite without the higher larynx? What would it sound like on a lower larynx? How about lower notes?
jmdodge 1 year ago
@jmdodge - its important to do it without a high larynx anyway. A lower larynx will give you a more open, throaty sound. It depends on how low you put the larynx. Too low and your voice becomes to muddy.
You really don't have to twang low notes as they generally have an "edge" to them naturally. Its the higher, lighter notes that need the twang to keep them clear and not too "hooty" or hollow sounding.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC I can't seem to decouple the sound quality from just using a really high larynx, which I guess is why I was curious about lower notes - hearing the bite on a lower note might help me carry up the sound without the high larynx, but right now the two are just one and the same for me. Any examples/suggestions?
jmdodge 1 year ago
@jmdodge - Twanging a lower note will not help you keep your larynx from rising; it will just make a low note less muddy.
Keeping the larynx from shooting up under your chin is a process that takes time and concentration. I have some videos in this channel on straining that can help you start that process.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
i like the oprah-voice way better then the metal voice though ;-)
MissClarinda 1 year ago
@MissClarinda - the "metal voice" here is exaggerated for effect. Its not a "finished" sound; just an example of an embellishment you can add to the voice.
I call it "metal bite" but it also goes by the names of "twang", "ping" and to a lesser degree in Opera "squillo"
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC hm. oh, okay. cool . Thanx for your reply :-) I think, if you know what the leadsinger of Aerosmith sounds like, Steven Tyler, he's doing that 'metal voice' all the time LOL... am I right?
MissClarinda 1 year ago
I found this extremely helpful and halarious \m/ Thanks man.
aishaeatspies 1 year ago
OK. But how to do it like, say, Painkiller, by Judas Priest?
gal8pwsc 1 year ago
@gal8pwsc - Easy. Have Rob Halford's voice.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago 17
@RocktheStageNYC wow..
gal8pwsc 1 year ago
@gal8pwsc
There are two things that help with the Halford's famed "Painkiller" voice. The first is volume. He is an extremely loud singer. (The amazing Ralf Scheepers,who many call a Halford clone,is also an extremely loud singer.) The second thing is a super high "hidden" and "fixed" voice box. Pull your voice box up under your neckline/behind your tongue. Use the muscles on the sides of your neck to do this- it will be tense. Sing loud and keep the voicebox cemented in position.
TimeLordGuitar 1 year ago
Watch some clips of Rob Halford singing "Painkiller" live. Rob always pulls his chin close his chest and stares at the floor for that voice. If you do that it automatically pulls the voicebox into the fixed position where it needs to be for that type of voice. You don't have to stare at the floor to get the voicebox into the right position. It does help though and that's what the metal masters Halford and the previously mentioned Scheepers do for that sound.
TimeLordGuitar 1 year ago
@TimeLordGuitar - Halford bends forward for breath support not to get a vocal effect. Tucking the chin inward does NOTHING to affect the larynx position. Only the lifter muscles used in swallowing can pull the larynx upward. If you use the lifter or Degrastic muscles you are adding unneeded tension and constriction. If look at Halford closely he bent forward but his neck is relatively straight. He's just bending at the waist for breath support.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC
Yeah I know man- it's a very tense and constricted sound that is certainly NOT a "safe" everyday vocal technique. It's interesting that nearly every metal vocalist that does their own version of the famed Halford metal shriek uses the same posture as Rob to do that voice (Sheepers,Owens,Peck,etc.) Those guys are definitely tensed up and not relaxed at all when doing the shriek. You can physically see their neck muscles tightening up in order to do it.
TimeLordGuitar 1 year ago
@TimeLordGuitar - yeah well that just speaks of inproper vocal technique. There should be NO tension in the neck whatsoever. There are safe ways to make those sounds without tension. I suck at them but I've seen plenty of guys do a "Painkiller" type sound without tension. Halford gets that sound by tensing because thats the ONLY way HE can make it happen. Its not easy for him.
I'm sure Owens did it for visual effect because I've seen clips of him pre-Priest doing it and he's NOT bent over.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC What about James Hetfield? He had a very particular voice in the first ten years with metallica, specially in 1991. I guess he did those vocals the wrong way, I mean he pushed his voice and that's why he damaged it.
Fedeleven 1 year ago
@Fedeleven - Hetfield was damaged his voice over the years and was starting to lose it. If you watch their film "Some Kind of Monster" he talks about that problem and consults a vocal coach to learn how to not damage it any further..
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@TimeLordGuitar - dude what you are describing is extremely dangerous to do. Tensing in the neck using the outer muscles leads to constriction and strain. The larynx (voicebox) should never be super high in the throat. That constricts and chokes off the sound. The throat needs to be open and relaxed. You NEVER strain from the neck and pull the larynx way up under the chin. If you know anatomy of the larynx you'll know thats completely counterproductive to producing volume.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@TimeLordGuitar - actually Halford isn't that loud a singer. Louder than most but not by much.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
Hello Kevin.
At first i would like to say that i don't know if i am tenor or baritone. If im tenor then rather low one. Dramatic maybe.
But the point is i want to sing higher, for example Kai Hansen songs. Lets take bad scenario, let's say im baritone. Would I be ever able to sing those songs ?
Scorpionee 1 year ago
@Scorpionee - sure you can. I'm a low baritone and I can sing Kai Hansen stuff. It just takes the right training to learn how to connect chest to head registers and stay in full voice.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
hi:) I need help ehm I´m trying to make a heavy metal scream like eric adams for an example but my voice can only do a falsetto in a very low voice (by low voice I mean not loud) and I have an normal voice like rob halford or eric adams whatever but when I try to dp louder it someway either turns to a darker or it sounds like someone cut of my penis! so please anyone who read this if you can please help!
:)
TheKrulltott 1 year ago
@TheKrulltott - you are not ready for Eric Adams screams if all you can manage is low volume falsetto. You're in over your head. You can't run before you can walk. Getting high, powerful screams takes a solid foundation of vocal technique first.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC
thanks, I´l work my way up then:)
but I still don´t get the way you shall breath or any of the techniques that people use:(
anyway thanks!=D
TheKrulltott 1 year ago
How does one contract the throat space without putting undue pressure on the larynx? Also, is the "grinding sound" in the high notes produced by the vocal cords themselves, or by irregularities in the contracted pharynx, or what?
TorturedXeno 1 year ago
@TorturedXeno - contracting or squeezing of the pharynx (throat) has nothing to do with the larynx as the pharynx sits above the larynx and extends into the nasal cavity. You can make the inside of your pharynx smooth or rough edged. The rougher the edge the more "cut" or "bite" your tone has. You are effecting the sound AFTER its produced by the vocal cords.
The often used whiny "Nah" sound is a pharyngeal contraction. Its a very subtle movement. The difference between a nudge and a push.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
Thanks so much.
Halooverlord 1 year ago
P.S. You've said in other videos that classical technique/pedagogy can be easily adapted to rock singing. Care to elaborate on that? Thanks.
TorturedXeno 1 year ago
@TorturedXeno - sure. The basics of classical technique/pedagogy in terms of consistent and solid breath support from the waist, a relaxed, open throat sound, and the covering of lower head tones can easily be adapted to Rock singing. "Speech Level Singing" (supposedly adapted from Bel Canto) teaches relatively nothing about solid breath support or an open throat, covered sound.
Rock singing is by nature a very intense sound just like Classical so they share a lot in common in intensity.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC You say that you were classically trained, and you use classical techniques for some (not all) areas of voice development. In what ways does your approach differ from, let's say, a teacher who uses only classical technique to teach contemporary singing (e.g., Rocchio and Vendera)? And where do the two meet on common ground?
TorturedXeno 1 year ago
@TorturedXeno - All singing uses the same basics principles of technique in terms of production of sound. Its what you do with that sound that determines genre or style. My ideology is similar to Bruce Lee who was schooled in all areas of martial arts. He took what was useful for actual fighting and discarded the rest that was just "showy". I try to learn from every aspect of voice pedagogy, then use what I think works quickly and makes sense for the modern singer, and discard the rest.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
You describe yourself as a teacher with experience in rock, pop, and metal. Well, firstly, how come you differentiate between rock and metal? Isn't metal a subgenre of rock? Secondly, how do you define 'pop'? Are we talkin' Josh Groban or Taylor Swift here? Or is your definition of pop something more hardcore?
TorturedXeno 1 year ago
@TorturedXeno - Rock singing (to me) is anything that doesn't involve screaming or distortion. (Bon Jovi, Van Halen, Led Zeppelin) Metal singing has those embellishments (Accept, Slayer, Avenged Sevenfold) but there are exceptions to Metal like Helloween and Queensryche and exceptions to Rock like Cheap Trick and Bryan Adams who use lots of rasp. Pop is more about the songwriting than the singing - The Beatles were mainly a Pop band but had lots of heavy Rock singing and some screams in songs.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
OMG! this video saved my gig!
Thanks man!
Savstad95 1 year ago
how would i be able to have a falsetto kind of like steven tyler in the infamous dream on song
goblah5 1 year ago
@goblah5 - you have to have that falsetto ability already somewhat. Its built into his vice naturally so its very easy for him. I cannot do that type of "screamy falsetto" that he does. My voice is too bottom heavy for it.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
Hey, I'm having a lot of trouble with the breathing. I can only expand my diaphragm a little bit, becuase i start having a really uncomfortable lesson, almost like im gonna burst. Is this normal?
gnrocker1 1 year ago
@gnrocker1 - it only takes a little but of expansion to get a full breath. Look at my videos on breathing exercises fr a more detailed explanation.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
I'm really curious about something and it's been bothering me. In SLS training, the pharyngeal is a huge focus, but they don't mention producing twang with a conscious control of contracting certain muscles. They mention a "cry." Are these similar ideas?
wildcataosw 1 year ago
@wildcataosw - Cry, sob, witches cackle, its all the same. Witches cackle or metal bite is a bit more intense than the sob or cry but they achieve the same result. I highly resonant sound with lots of presence and cut.
Good question!
Kevin
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@b0nggggggg - if you don't know or can't tell that - you need some serious vocal training.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
When u add the witches crackle to falsetto is it then termed "connected"? and can u then add volume and a different resonance to it?
arataki1 1 year ago
@arataki1 - nope. Falsetto is still falsetto no matter what you add to it. You have to get the compression or adduction/connected sound going first then add resonance, edge, & volume.
What you're describing would be a twangy, reinforced falsetto. But falsetto nonetheless.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
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arataki1 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC - thanks. Whats the "feeling" difference between reinforced falsetto & a quiet controlled mix head voice?
arataki1 1 year ago
how i achive high notes like ronnie james Dio?
rockpop1 1 year ago
@rockpop1 - can you actually sing? That's your first step to getting high notes.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC yes i can :P i took a few lessons
rockpop1 1 year ago
@rockpop1 - a "few" lessons. To achieve Dio type notes you'll need at least 6 months to a year of training.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
I've watched almost all of your videos, and I can handle most everything you've taught safely.
My only real question, albeit slightly stupid, is about trying to get a specific tone in mixed voice. I'm sure you've heard of Ted Neeley? I'm trying to figure out how to get that particular tone to my screams. See "Gethsemane (I only want to say)" from Jesus Christ Superstar. If I could get any tips on getting that tone, I'd be much appreciative :)
Valcarion 1 year ago
@Valcarion - which version of Neeley's "Gesthemane" - the original fro 1973 or the one from just a few years ago? His tone changed over the years as his voice darkened and matured from age. His voice got "screamier" as he got older due to age.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC The 1973 version is what I had in mind. I love how his voice has changed through the years, but in 1973, he was just sublime.
Valcarion 1 year ago
i have a question, when it try to use my head voice my voice just mutes, its just air coming out! and when i can hear the voice, the volume is extremey low and the sound is weak, what do i do?
i hope you understand what im sayin, this is really hard to explain.
Patogarza93 1 year ago
@Patogarza93 - look at my channel and view the videos on straining and head voice.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
I have a short question. When i try to sing Halfrod-esque vocals, my voice cracks into like a little girl scream thing. Is it because of Mucus build up or is it pushing too hard? I just started experimenting with this stuff cuz i usually do a Hetfield Chuck Billy style, but i thought it would be cool to do both.
krtbossman 1 year ago
@krtbossman - do you know how to sing cleanly and at a low volume in the higher ranges? If not, stay away from doing the high, loud stuff. It all starts with clean, light sounds, then you learn how to "press" to get louder, fuller and edgier sounds.
if you're voice is "squeaking out", there's too much tension.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC thanks man
krtbossman 1 year ago
I have a short question, when i try to sing Halford-esque vocals, sometimes my voice cracks into like a little girl scream. Is it because of mucus build up because as soon as i hock a loogie it goes away or am I trying to add too much bite?
krtbossman 1 year ago
Hi i have 4 short questions first, when i try to sing in falsetto my voice is very ''airy'' i can hear very much air at the same time as i sing the note,2 when i sing low in my chest voice i can feel my diafragm but as i go higher in my chest voice the feeling dissepears and my voice get weaker why is that?, 3 in metal screams scould i use my vocal cords and push them toghether to get a higher note or schould all the power come fram the stomach,4 is resonance when i put my vocal cords together?
MrDasuber 1 year ago
@MrDasuber - short questions? well the answers are not short but the best answer is to watch my other videos on falsetto, head voice, why your voice breaks etc.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
I'm having a problem maybe you can shed some light on. Between your two resonance videos, I successfully added a good deal of resonance to my chest voice and have successfully pulled off decent "witches cackles" or high-note screaming (obviously not done in chest voice but in head voice/falsetto) the problem is that my resonant head voice and resonant chest voice just sound like two totally different people singing, I'm having trouble connecting the two when I apply this in song, any tips?
gtrsoundz590 1 year ago
@gtrsoundz590 - you have practice singing from chest voice into head voice with octave or 1.5 octave legato exercises. That way you can learn how to apply just the right amount of resonance as you ascend to make it sound like one voice.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
So i just recently started a band with my friends and i'm the vocalist. (we play metal) I just started doing vocals when we got together never learned any of this.
My question is do you know any sites i can go to for help learning more about my voice if you know what i mean?
TheZombieSlayer666 1 year ago
@TheZombieSlayer666 - buy some books like Mark Baxter's "Rock n Roll Singer's Survival Guide". Its priceless for the beginner rock / metal singer.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
I'm having trouble keeping that witch's cackle. Any tips?
piercedthought 1 year ago
@piercedthought - practice it. If its a new sound to your voice, it may take some time to get it down.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
woww, eres sensacional.
belial07 1 year ago
will it be possible for me, to achieve the Tim Ripper tone by applying this to my singing?For example, will i be able to sing the screams from ''The green manalishi''
with a powerful voice, and sounding like a girl, by doing this?
greywrath 1 year ago
@greywrath - how can I possibly answer that? Do you sound a lot like Tim Owens already?
Resonance and screaming are two different things.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
Thanks, very useful! I have been having excellent classical singing lessons, but this kind of thing is not something I can learn from her.
Dwylljocht 1 year ago
I've watched a couple of your videos and I really like your style of teaching: I learned to sing in high school chorus, but I like learning new styles (other than the basic boring) & have loved metal most of my life & always wondered how to apply that classic Bruce Dickinson sound to a female's voice. I'm so excited to try your exercises! Thanks for taking the time!
michwebb 1 year ago
@JeffUpdike1992 - you're only 22 and don't really know what a REAL metal scream is. You probably think screaming as that low, emo, cookie monster crap. That;s growling. Screams are up high and much harder to do then growling in your low range.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC i couldn't agree with you more man, i have been searching for high pitch metal screams for ages , and keep finding teenagers trying to do it, not good , anyway if you have time, which i doubt, could you check out the coverband "Downlode" playing sweet child of mine on youtube, from 3:05- 3:27 and also from 5:01 - end, the singer has this amazing transformation from normal voice to an awesome metal scream, how does he do this , i wish i new. any ideas? its awesome live too
stebolian 1 year ago
@stebolian - he is doing rasp. Some people can just do it and some can't. I am in the "can't category. I've yet to come across anyone who can do it that can tell me how they do it exactly. Its a quirk of their vocal cords not closing completely and it gets raspy.
RocktheStageNYC 1 year ago
@RocktheStageNYC -yeah that is so true...i can do growling like a pro but a good scream that starts forest fires is damn hard to do...
take Judas Priest for an example...DAMN!
NaurTerrier 1 year ago 14
can you give me some tips for a geoff tate style of vocals
vaimaster82 2 years ago
Tips - yeah, take a year to learn how to bridge from chest voice to head voice without strain and then keep the voice clean and resonant.
all of that can be learned in my vocal course.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
Here online?
vaimaster82 2 years ago
I put up a video here on Youtube all about the vocal course
You can buy it directly at my website. see URL in the description
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
okay thanks bro
vaimaster82 2 years ago
If you dont want to sound like Rob Halford then?
Because thats who youre sounding like...
PennyDreadful1 2 years ago
well that's what this video is about - getting a Rob Halford type of metallic edge sound.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
@RocktheStageNYC
Im more curious about power scream/wails.
You know sorta like a Chris Cornell type of scream.
Sorry if im rude.
PennyDreadful1 2 years ago
I don't have a vocal teacher and i wonder what voice type I have.
I can sing to low bass c.And take my head voice down to a g below middle c.
What am i. I heard that your vocal weight i more important than your range but ofcourse i don't know anyting about my vocal weight.
mark88bon 2 years ago
I don't get hung up on "classifications" with singers. Your voice is only limited by you. I can go from G1 to C6 - my speaking voice is actually lower than what you hear in my videos. I speak higher to make it more resonant and punchier but my actual speaking voice is quite low.
How "heavy" a voice sound does determine some natural range. Heavier voicse have shorter and thicker cords, high voices have long and thin cords. Long and thin cords make high notes easier.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
how long should this get to do, i think im doing it but im not sure (adding resonance to my falsetto.) should i do the "robot" and the "witchs cat" or just the cat? i can kinda see how its working and why i just donno if im doing it right...
wareaglebabe11 2 years ago
how long should it take to get this? you should be able to apply this instantly.
and it's "witches cackle" as in laugh.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
i see. i can kinda do it i just feel like im not doing it right, so many people look like their straining so much to do it or bend their bodys weird to do it...
wareaglebabe11 2 years ago
Hi! i have heard that if you sing right your adams apple schould not move. I have tried to sing in front of a mirror but when i try to sing higher i really feel that im just using my throat and my adams apple move up to a point to when i cant sing higher. Do you have an exercise so i can learn to sing higher and right:
Best regards/ John
MrDasuber 2 years ago
Look at my other videos in mixed voice and head voice. There are tips in those to keep your larynx low.
BUT your larynx should be allowed to move a little. You just don't want it shooting up so high under your chin that it chokes you off or restricts range.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
One question... How to belt head voice and falsetto? Let's say that I'm singing E5 in head voice and I need to go up to B5, but I feel that at the moment I can't go any higher in head voice and I need to connect it all to a high pitched falsetto "scream" and that I want to do it without my voice "breaking". What should I try to do? My lower falsetto notes got a bit "weakened" since I started singing in head voice, but my higher falsetto notes(E5 and up) are still strong.
TwistedMindCroatia 2 years ago
B5 is below E5 so I'm not sure where you're trying to sing from.
One doesn't "belt" falsetto. You can make it sound stronger by using some chest resonance but you physically can't belt it because of the lack of cord closure.
Increasing the volume of any note takes strength and thickening in the vocal cords and more air pressure.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
@RocktheStageNYC
The B5 in Croatia is marked as B2 and E5 as E2 and it's in the same octave, but the B is higher so sorry for the confusion.
Anyway, thank you for your help. I'm working on getting some more range with my head voice. Sometimes I notice that my head voice goes into something some singers call "super head voice", but I'd like if you could shine a light on that. I know that what I'm doing is not falsetto because you explained to me how to see the difference.
TwistedMindCroatia 2 years ago
"super head voice" is what I'm using in my "extreme range Soprano C" video.
watch?v=pppo6gxLur4
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
@TwistedMindCroatia
...wow...lol...lots of fancy techniqual talk
dime1046 2 years ago
Doesnt octaves go like this?
C D E F G A B
PennyDreadful1 2 years ago
When I try to add distortion to high notes (E4-E5), I can only do it by simply increasing the volume until the sound distorts. Is that a good way to do it, or can you teach us a better way? Great video, by the way! :)
jongunnar 2 years ago
What you're doing is dangerous - thats called "blowing out the cords" and is harmful to your voice.
I won't teach distortion on YouTube for free because too many people NOT ready for that kind of technique will try it and they could hurt themselves. I won't be responsible for that.
BUT I am working on a CD that deal solely with distortion, raspiness etc.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
I forgot to mention that I increase twang, place the sound in my soft palate and focus on a downwards sensation in my low abs region ("power push" as J. Vendera calls it) - but I still have a increase the volume before any kind of distortion appears. It doesn't seem to kill my range singing like this with my band.
Does this info change your opinion?
jongunnar 2 years ago
Nope. you're looking at eventual vocal damage. Proper Rasp/Grit/Distortion doesn't take volume it takes zeroing in the right vibrating area.
If you have to get loud to distort your voice its not correct technique. A lot of metal/hard rock singers from 15-20 years ago are now dealing with the damage from that kind of pushing. Chris Cornell comes to mind.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
Thanks for the info. I see what you mean. But note that lots of people teach all kind of stuff, singing, martial arts, etc. and then just put a disclaimer on their material, stating that they are not responsible for any kind of injury that might occur when practising these techniques.
jongunnar 2 years ago
There are tons of screaming instructionals on youtube. Pretty much all of them suck, big time.Personally, I think you could be doing people a favor by doing a video like that and save many throats. In any case, I respect your decision.
jongunnar 2 years ago
Yes most of them suck and teach you the WRONG way to do it. My apprehension in posting a video on it is that kids who can't really sing will try this and hurt themselves. If done right under supervision from a vocal coach you can learn to do it right. Online is tricky as you need to have instant feedback whether you're doing it right or not.
Even Melissa Cross doesn't really show you how to scream in "The Zen of Screaming"
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
I wanted to ask you the same question about the head voice with distortion, in the style of Painkiller. Can you reply me this with a link or something than let me follow your works by mail?? Or maybe you can send me your news directly to my mail. It is andelwin_mar (h o t m a i l). I will be very grateful. Thanks
pedropelegui 2 years ago
sign up at my website under the "free stuff" link.
the website address is in the description.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
what is your vocal type? cuz im baritone and it works for me
RandomViewerX 2 years ago
technically a baritone because before I could sing high I could always go really low.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
hi, how do i find out if im i good singer if i dont want to sing to none
Firstbloodchill 2 years ago
how does one even answer a question like this? If you never want to sing to anyone who cares if you're good or not? You are the only one listening to you sing.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
sorry another question is screaming in your head voice quieter?
gothscreamo 2 years ago
that depends on HOW you do it. It can be VERY loud or at speaking volume. There a different ways to scream in head voice - vibrating the soft palate or vibrating the false cords. Each gives a different sound and volume.
All those "death metal" growlers aren't loud at all. Its probably a lot quieter than you'd imagine. It just looks louder.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
so using the pharyngeal contractions in head voice will give it more bite but not make it much louder?
i know the growls are quiet... in fact the high screams he does have less volume than talking voice but they can get decently loud i was mostly asking about the clean screams thanks tho
gothscreamo 2 years ago
thanks for the help
gothscreamo 2 years ago
hey i love your videos... i just have a few questions can you do this with you head voice cuz i don't like how girly it sounds when i do it with falsetto also can you make the falsetto scream sound warmer/bassyer. sorry one more thing im a big fan of into eternity the singer uses death metal growls and screams along with screams sorta like this can you tell me if the singer is using head voice or falsetto
gothscreamo 2 years ago
Thanks for the great videos. I've always had a dull voice and have to almost scream for people to hear me in loud situations. Do you recommend I practice this technique purely whenever possible to make up for years of dullness? Or should I slowly add it over time? Thanks!
myke7777 2 years ago
work on it right away - your friends will thank you!
Here's a slightly better way to do this for speech resonance;
say the word "sing" and hold on the "ng". Your voice will now sound dull and it'll feel like the back of your tongue is up against the roof of your mouth. Now release that feeling of the tongue and say "Gaaaaa" you should hear a sudden increase in treble in your voice. Viola! You've just added speech resonance. Now say a sentence and keep that open treble sound to your voice.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
Whenever i do that witches cacle i choke !!! Why is this so?I just choke!!!What am i doing wrong?
mjmacrock 2 years ago
if you choke - you are in essence choking yourself. You are squeezing too hard. Do exactly as I do in the video, try to imitate my sound and you won't choke.
imitate the sound of a cat meowing - that's what it should feel like. No more, no less.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
hey kevin - luv your videos mate - really good stuff. so, in regards to this clip, this is the same technique/principal that axl uses for his rock/metal vocals?
bjnwright 2 years ago
actually Axl uses more of a nasal sound for the high pitchy stuff which is why I find him annoying to listen to most of the time.
He uses some pharyngeal but it has way too much nasality mixed in which gives it that "pinched" sound.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
Dude can you help me...
How can I do vocals like "Alice Cooper" or "Lordi"?
AchilleasRockerMan 2 years ago
the question is actually - are you capable of singing like Alice Cooper? You can't run before you can walk so don't try to get ahead of yourself. If you have to ask that question - you're experience as a singer isn't far enough along.
I like that you want to get down & dirty like Alice but build a strong singing voice first then try to add that kind of sound to it. You won't hurt yourself if you learn the basics first.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
Do you have some exercise for the whistle register that can help me ?
melyeshi 2 years ago
Sorry I don't do it - never learned as it as no practical application in Rock & Metal.
RocktheStageNYC 2 years ago
Hi thanks for the awesome vids - I personally am after more of a Liam Gallagher/Johnny Rotten punk type sound rather than metal etc. I can do it but I'm pretty sure what