Cleopatra (1963) Part 23 and Marc Antony's Death

[clyneDDW1]

Octavian was vermin and this is why Rome fell.

[turtlewings]

I wonder--are there modern day descendants of Cleo and Marc Antony running around?

[snejanahanadovile]

did octavian kill cleopatra's son????

[harorider96]

@snejanahanadovile Yep.

[MegaWolfgang]

@snejanahanadovile Historically it is not known what became of Czar en? Cleopatra's other two children fathered by Antony lived the rest of their lives as roman citizens being raised by Augustus. But Cesarean just disappeared from history.

[DuffyMooCows]

@MegaWolfgang That is false. After Cleopatra's suicide, Cesarean was executed by order of Octavian.

[MegaWolfgang]

@DuffyMooCows You are probably right but there is no proof of that is there.?

[vjgutierrez86]

octavian is an asshole!

[Kesharox999]

Romeo and Juliet were based on cleopatra and Marc!!!!!!!

[BjonesK]

Andrew Zimmern @ 5:51!

THANKS FOR UPLOADING THE MOVIE-a true GEM!!!!

[Teresa52990]

Awesome

[tribune007]

i was upset the way rufio died. still i like the way anthony tried to fight them. pointless but courageous. Great film.

[dutchorchidhouse]

He's such a loser, lol!

[DrDizzy1984]

if it weren't for Octavian she would have ruled the world....if it weren't for Egypt Nepoleon would have ruled the world.... the irony is delicious

[NCWC2]

@DrDizzy1984 Napoleon didn't fall because of Egypt. He fell because of his own hubris and invasion of Russia.

[DrDizzy1984]

@NCWC2 Facts are Facts but he went insain in Eygpt! Historically the concentious is he wouldnt have tryed to invade Russia, most military genious' know it's next impossible to defeat Russia in Russia...like Afganistain.

[NCWC2]

@DrDizzy1984 I still have trouble seeing how Napoleon went insane in Egypt.  Egypt was his crowning point that allowed him to take over and reform the French government at the time. Could you please enlighten me?

[fewcusi]

Antony's finally dead! Yes! He was so annoying.

[Mittenzzs]

I'm actually slightly confused as to why Apollodorus told Antony that Cleo was dead....

[al17778]

@Mittenzzs that was Apollodurus's way of telling Antony where she was: in her tomb

[anusreej1]

@Mittenzzs Just bcoz he loved her altime. He told so to Cleo and she replied She never

[anusreej1]

@Mittenzzs He did so coz he loved her altime. He told so to her but she replied but she never

[Mittenzzs]

Cleopatra thought Antony was dead, she ran away.

Antony thought Cleopatra was dead, he killed himself.

[Xforeverlove21]

@Mittenzzs

No, when she found out Antony was dead she killed herself like @ part 24!

[brownsuga1212]

i see his undies

[linket88]

.."anybody want to fight and die an honorable death?"....

...awkward silence...

[Mr2Badboybrown]

One thing I don't get! why didn't Augustus just get rid of the boy's body after he was killed and keep his uncle's ring, instead of bringin it along with him?

[HistoryLover1550]

When Antony was off to confront octavian, he found his forces surrounding an unresisting Egyptian navy. He feared Cleopatra betrayed him and looked for her, he heard she was dead then killed himself.

[HistoryLover1550]

Caesarion was 17 when he died.

[HistoryLover1550]

It's not a good thing to have too many Caesars.

[HistoryLover1550]

Im sure the Cleopatra film Jolie is set to star in will finally be the real TRUE story of her life and times.

[HistoryLover1550]

RIP Rufio

[Gingie4life]

ROMEO ND JULIET :)

[2degucitas]

His horse is well trained.

[Beatleschick1]

Did Apollos want Antony to believe Cleopatra was dead in order for him to kill himself? Am I missing something?

[antoninus138]

Antonius had Cicero killed for his Phillipics - so I don't have much sympathy for him. He and Octavianus inaugurated Proscriptions worse even than Sulla's so this portrayal of a decent Antonius is innacurate.

[MareTranquil]

The purple pillow at 2:12, is that the same he threw to his cheering legions after the Battle of Phillipi?

[ancestoralmemory]

Lol compare this clip of Anthony's death to the same scene in HBO's Rome.

[fleurgi]

i know. i want a remake of this movie witht the 2 actors frome rome on hbo

[bookkeeper57]

This was HollywoodS version of the same events. HBO Rome was ACCURATE.

[DoctorMirabilis80]

@bookkeeper57 "HBO Rome was ACCURATE".

Actually, that show is also far from accurate. For instance, Atia Caesonia, the mother of Octavian, died in 43 BC, 13 years before the suicide of Antony and Cleopatra. In the series, she survives them. Ptolemy Caesarion was the true son of Julius Caesar, and not of some rugged legionnaire called Titus Pullo. And, of course, the depiction of Cleopatra's court as a bunch of weirdos, drunks and junkies is grossly cartoonish and historically wrong.

[bookkeeper57]

Accurate in terms of physical detail, as much of the series as I saw. Not necessarily all the history. I agree with your statement about Cleopatra's court.

Cleopatra was a polyglot, among the best educated of her day, and her court had a degree of refinement that Rome heard only rumors of.

[1972jewish]

Octavian, in spite of his hate for Cleopatra, admitted her greatness & political talents. In final verses of Aeneida Virgilius pays homage to her

[HistoryLover1550]

@ancestoralmemory I like James Purefoy's portrayal of Antony in that series!

[andresrojas22]

i love anthony he's a drunk crazy bastard

[Iluthra]

The real Antony was known to be much cruder than Burton's version.

[1972jewish]

& was of poor brains, slave to his vices & half mad, pretty much a jerk

[1972jewish]

& rude, not very intelligent & without cold blood

[Krazzy12U]

@andresrojas22 And the actor was exactly the same in real life

[bookkeeper57]

I think Shakespeare based the deaths of Romeo and Juliet on the real life Antony and Cleopatra; the parallel is there.

[lilly032]

Well he did write antony and cleopatra which was about thier love and her susicide

[lilly032]

@bookkeeper57 i believe so yes romeo and juliet was also based on antony and cleopatra but then there is his play antony and cleopatra

[deedee9960]

@lilly032 yup it's by shakespeare

[japanfan64]

@bookkeeper57

I heard he used the story of Pyramus and Thisbe (and perhaps Tristan and Isolde), but this wouldn't suprise me either.

[Medusa0999]

@bookkeeper57 ah but there's also the suggestion he based R+J an the real Richard III and his wife anne. They were from warring families and in love. Reguardless of who it is based on, there's always going to be forrbidden lovers.

[DrDizzy1984]

@bookkeeper57 please explain!?

[al17778]

@bookkeeper57 Romeo and Juliet were real people, as were their deaths.

[CharacterofChoice]

@al17778 They weren't real people, I'm afraid. It's completely fiction.

[al17778]

@CharacterofChoice look it up. if you read the foreward to Romeo and Juliet, it clearly states that they were based on real people and real events

[CharacterofChoice]

@al17778 Ahhh okay, sorry. I looked it up. I didn't know because my English teacher didn't mention this at all.