Rrofte shqiperiaaa....ALBANIA FOR EVER ....ILIRIA eshte shqipetare...arvanitan jan shqipetar edhe ne qjofshe nuk e thon se kan turp....ALBANIA ETHNIC .......grek te qelbur po ju vjen ora edhe juve...
Goga was an Arvanite not a dirty Cham!! Biiiig Difference!!!! Chams are Turk and Nazi lovers! Arvanites chose to be Greek and not Albanian, ask any Arvanite, gomar!
Ποτε η Ελλάδα δεν ειχε καλλους γειτόνους... Τι περιμενεις απο Αλβανια, Σκοπια.. Βουλγαρια.. και Τουρκία.. Αν ειχαμε καμια Σουηδία ή Νορβηγία.. θα βλέπαμε την αναπτυξη της χωρας μας και την οικονομια της.. αλλα με κωλοκρατοι γυρω μας.. τι κανουμε.. Πεσανε σαν τα κορακια να μας φανε.. αιωνες και αιωνες δεν ηρεμησε η γη μας.. μας λεηλατησαν απο παντου.. Θελουν την γη μας, τον ουρανο μας.. τον πολτισμικο και φυσικο πλουτο μας !!!!
if albanias are like ancient greek so in this time would be great personalities in arts science etc . the dna lives into the centuries. greeks never stop do great thing until now. writers artists scientists etc.
Greek people is a racist nation, and not structures, that in Greece 1812-1821 speak Albanian (Arvanites) and I have the facts and accepted by the Greek historians, Albanians migrated because of a bad system that had blocked , the Albanian people to Greek people sentest mburet warriors with them, and considers that the Greek warriors,
1) The DNA make-up of today's Greeks is 99.5% white. The study cliams that today's Greek has 99.5% the same DNA make-up as as the white Greeks of ancient times.
2) Contrary to beliefs by many in Turkey and certain Slavic nations of ex-Yugoslavia, Greek DNA has not been influenced, nor altered, by the mixture of Slavic or Turkish DNA, even though Ottomans ruled a large part of Greece for 400 years.
3) Out of a sample of 925 modern-day Greek DNA, only 0.4% exhibited non-white DNA.
4) To a large extenet, Greeks of the ancient time "transfered" their DNA to other parts of Europe through their conquests. The study showed that, today, Greek DNA is most similar to: a) Italian DNA, b) French DNA, c) Spanish DNA, d) Turkish DNA.
5) The DNA of Italians in modern day southern Italy is the closest match to the DNA of their Greek neighbors.
Also from Baghdad and Moscow Universities. The 67% of dna of greeks has a paleolithic origin 50000-10000 b.c. The 10,7%neolithic origin 10000-3000 b.c.
Other participants also 5 other research laboratories in different countries.
The survey results published the American journal Human Genetics.
Survey name "The origins, dispersal and diversification of haplogroups E and J, the Y chromosome:Implications for the Neolithic colonization of Europe and later events in the Mediterranean.
Stated facts about the Purity of my Race. Please do so with yours too. I stated results of Researches that have not been conducted by my country and not under my countries order. Some of them were asked by a country North of Greece. Not Albania-Not Serbia or Bulgary. Also...about the language that people stated earlier and told me to learn my language and accept my past. Do you know what Balkans means? Search that and put your brain in some thought why this region took that name.
Instead of having a storng continent of Balkan Countries and not be under Europe and U.S.A. we are in war and fights amongst us all the time.Thats why there will never be Great Albania or Bulgary that reaches the sea or "Macedonia"(Skopia-their previous president said: We are not ancestors of Great Alexander we are geographically Macedonia-of course before the election day he was saying other things) till Thessaloniki.Yougoslavia was strongest country around and they ruined her.
All these happen because they do not want us to be in complete peace but all the time near war. The G5 do not want us stable. When you understand that you will figure out that its not Grees the "bad" guy around just because it is a wealthier country.
ANALBANIANS GO AND WORK NOW FOR THE GREEK BOSSES NO MORE PAUSE..TURK COMMUNIST SUCKERS..Go fix your analbania your country make progress and fix YOUR history stop all the time to shine ON GREEK HISTORY PRIDE AND SUCCESS now back to work Install an Air Conditioner for a greek and LEAVE the soulioute because these was greek albanians hellenes ortodox christians who fucked you very very hard therefor the analbania name of your country RUN NOW TO INSTALL THE AIRCONDION
Oi ellines einai mounopana re oloi tous.... apla ta pragmata ... enw eprepe na mas proskinane twra thn exoune dei yperano ta poustrakia... ante re mounopana parte poulous.
for anyone having questions about Suliotet go listen to the documentary done by greek historians ( /watch?v=p98D7Fql1Dk ). Luckily some clever people left in Greece still.
My name is Souliotis-I come from Aitoloakarnania.After the war and the defeat at Souli Souliotes scattered all over Greece.Most of them went at Parga and the ionian islands until the war was over while others decided to fight further on(for example at Messolongi where they died fighting). I am one of their descendants and all of us consider ourselves and our ancestors Greeks.
@Gentsatso U r a greek because for many generation you have been living in a country that is called Greece. From what u just said u appear to be very ignorant and uneducated. Our ancestors we didn't choose, but we cannot deny who they were. Instead of admitting with pride your ancestry u try to change it... how pitiful! Suliotet were Albanians who remained christians and fought the turks for freedom not just for greece. U r a shame to your ancestors, like many arvanitas nowadays are!
@volnl I am ignorant? Here goes: 1) Labros Koutsonikas was a fighter in the 1821 Rebelion-He was son of Faras Koutsonika and younger brother of Athanasios Koutsonikas.He dies cause he was old.When he was younger as i mentioned he was fighting in the rebelion and when young he was writing the history of Souliotes as it was happening.In his writings he states the following.Souliotes were living there(Souli) from the ancient times in order to avoid the Roman Armies.
@volnl 2) Athanasios Psalidas was Ali Pasas secretary in his books he states that Souliotes were fighting the Albanians for many years before the Turks and in one of his writings it is stated from other source that Greece still gives birth to heros like Leonidas and Themistocles.
3)The Enemies of Souliotes were saying the were Greeks-Facts:Meli Pasas-Son of Ali Pasas was writing letters to his father from April until December 1803.In these he calls Souliotes Romans-Romius-Romegus that meant Gr.
3) Ahmet Mufit Elder Grand Son of Ali Pasas was outraged with Souliotes- He tried to make them Albanian Orthodox but failed. He was furious cause they were remaining Greek Orthodox and states that they begun the attack on Ali Pasas.He also said that they were political instruments of Russia.
@Gentsatso Start reading some wikipedia, most info there is checked. And stop making a fool of yourself by talking about things u don't know. I go to a very prestigious university in the US and i have greek friends and none of them talk like u, and we are all PhDs. Don't be so emotionally involved and try to prove things that dont exist. Your problem is u wanna say ur a Souliot but as a typical greek also think albanians are immigrants bla bla and don't wanna relate. u can't undo history!
@volnl .oooo Amazed...still cannot see any facts from you...what i wrote about DNA is wiki..the rest is Bretanica...sorry... so Graikoi u say? In ancient Greek Mythology Pandora gave birth to Graikos -son of Zeus. That about Mythology.And now Etymology... The first name of Greek people was Graikoi and then they got renamed into Ellines... So prestigious university in the US...and u r PhDs and your Greek friends opinion??
@volnl And i think that albanians are immigrants? So u do not know me and blame me to be a racist.Firstly.. Albanians ARE immigrants---not negative--- they just looking for a better future..no bad thing about that..also not blaming them for anything..There are tons of Greek immigrants in Australia-USA and especially Germany...millions not a few...(not talking for more than our population and that we are 20 millions of people of course)... Where i work
@Gentsatso Albanians are just a bit less than Greeks..they have been born in Greece and saying we are Albanians and are proud of it....So What ? i do not care about from where each guy is from or what he is doing here?? He is working and he is legal... so i do not care at all..... here we are talking about a different thing and your false and wrong opinion about my thoughts for your country is making this..not me.. Sorry Expected more from someone that
@Gentsatso thats ridiculous, a university from Baghdat and Moscow? I checked your references and the article "Origin, Diffusion, and Differentiation of Y-Chromosome Haplogroups E and J: Inferences on the Neolithization of Europe and Later Migratory Events in the Mediterranean Area" and it says none of the things u claim. I don't think u understand much of what u read. Your firstborn was greek? Hahahaha we all come from Africa u moron! Stop referring to Stanford for your lies, they're unfounded.
@Gentsatso, "Greek ancestors" who spoke as their mothers tongue Arvantika or Albanian! But even if you consider your self "greek" take some linguistic lessons and find out what does graikoi means, and what tribe did they belong too! The sooner you do that, the better you will understand your real ancestors history.
@TRAZUAR graikoi ... was not something the Greek people were using. It was used by our conquerors (Turks) and it was something negative to show that we were slaves. Simple as that(and i have no grudge against Turks for those things of the past).
@Gentsatso...no, you are wrong! Graikoi is a term that was used since in ancient times when Romans came in contact with the Balkans! Graikoi was a tribe that belonged to the Illyrian nation, because the Balkans in ancient times was called Illyrio-Pelasgian Peninsula...and me etymology of this word is Gra-wich in albanian means women..koi-I think is old...and from this tribe took the name all the Helen tribes which still were Illyro-Pelasgian!
@TRAZUAR Ok....whatever i say is wrong--so..As you should know Illyrians is not an old tribe..Its the youngest that have appeared in the balkans...so Illyrians were living generally in nowdays area that these countries exist: Albania-Kosovo-Mavrovunio-Slovenia-Skopia-Croatia-Bosnia Ergegovini-Serbia.
Pelasgoi have nothing to do with the Illyrians for sure...As Pelasgoi are Described tribes with different languages in different areas.Some of them were living in Thesally and Attica...
@Gentsatso Pelasgoi=People from Prehellenic Era that is centuries before the illyrians and we do not have infos for them from the ancient writers. Believe me i am not wrong.From what i saw in your profile your are a strong Albanian Patriot and whatever i say u will not agree with me. Different opinions from different nations..You should accept that. I am well aware from what i write since i studied it and doing it for a living....Even though in my country we are taking few money and not employed
@Gentsatso, "Greek ancestors" who spoke as their mothers tongue Arvantika or Albanian! But even if you consider your self "greek" take some linguistic lessons and find out what does graikoi means, and what tribe did they belong too! The sooner you do that, the better you will understand your real ancestors history.
@Gentsatso Im an ALBANIAN from south,im remind u between Albania and Greece was total different country EPIR ,witch was more ALBANIAN than Greeks the CHAMERIA are not GREEK ,recognizable from rest of the world ,as greek basrard wait and see GREECE is going down every single day ,differently ALBANIA soon will be GREAT ALBANIA,,Kosovo ,Skopie,Chameria SHQIPERIA under SCANDERBEG flag the GREAT ALBANIA
hahaha cool video!im Greek and this is one of my favourite movies..in this scene we can see Goga Drako the great Suliote fighting against Gjonleka the albanian and killing him in the end!...Gjonleka was send by the sultan to take over Souli...haha THANK U ALBANIANS FOR SHOWING TO THE WORLD THAT ALBANIANS WERE FIGHTING ON THE TURKISH SIDE...AND THAT ALBANIANS ARE BASICALLY TURKS ;)
@ylley Souliotes fought against the albanians thats exactly what we see in this video..Gogas Drakos killing Gioleka the albanian..obviously u lack the ability of vision and hearing....
oh sorry,i thought you are able to think one step further. but yes suli fought againts albanian, you have muslim and orthodox albanian fightin each other. even marko bocari was killed by a catholic albanian mercenary...fighting each other doesnt separate their origins
you said it, they fought for free greece! that deosnt make them greek. i still call them albanian, fierce warriors who prevented that fact that today your name would be hassan or murat ;)
@ylley "you said it, they fought for free greece! that deosnt make them greek. i still call them albanian, fierce warriors who prevented that fact that today your name would be hassan or murat ;)"
IT IS SIMPLE: IF THEY HAD CONSCIENCE OF ALBANIAN NATION, THEN WE HAD EXTERMINATED THEM, OR LESS WE HAD KICKED OUT THEM.
@ElectraofMaced0n u r ignorant, if u don't know much why do u blabber. they fought for a free land because they believed in freedom. Before the major part of Albanian population changed religion greeks and albanians weren't fighting each other like they are today. Obviously there was the change in language etc but when turks invaded they came together to fight for a common cause. The world population was much smaller back then so think of families.
@ElectraofMaced0n U don't even know the history of your own country. The greeks should be the last people to create bad stereotypes on Albos, given the history, u wanna call greeks the ones who are heroes but not the Albos who caused trouble in the 90s. Thats not how it works dude. It's not a topic open for discussion. t's a fact that Suliotet are Albanian, and they are strong people like all Albanians are :). Read Wikipedia!
@ElectraofMaced0n What u see in this video is the separation that religion brought among Albanians. Give up on learning and writing already, admit u r an idiot and live in peace with yourself, u obviously dont have the capacity. Go do a mediocre job that doesn't require any brain usage, dance Zorba or sth. Nuff said!
for anyone having questions about Suliotet go listen to the documentary done by greek historians ( /watch?v=p98D7Fql1Dk ). Luckily some clever people left in Greece still.
@meraklees I can't find the book right now but I read a little piece on a forum posted by your fellow Greeks, and I already see what it is about....
It is a fact that Arvanites were indeed Albanian I have countless proof about it and my conclusion is based on evidence that includes their music, tradition, language, historical facts written about them at the time, etc...I have the sources, songs to articles, etc if you wish to have them i will list them for you....
@meraklees I have moved on to the Homeric Society, When I studied classical cultures and read Homeric Stories, for example like Odysseus....the concept of the Guest etc all sounded to familiar to me specially considering him wearing the Plis(both my grandparents wore) and the Fustanella(Greek historians have admitted it to belong to the Albanians)...The concept guest, honor, etc all too familiar to the Kanun and i was correct...look at K. Yamamoto's ethical structure of Kanun and Homeric Society
@meraklees piece by piece the jigsaw puzzle is being put together....many theories are being claimed invalid by proof that keeps surfacing about the Balkan history...they say the Victor writes History....but he/they must also be able to defend it!
Ex. Greeks claim Epirus...when we have Gjergj Kastrioti's letter to Prince of Taranto who makes it clear who they were.....such as Pirro of Epiri who was raised by Illyrians, etc...im done goodbye.
@Bardh87 ya sure ill trust an americans word about my history and greek culture u ignorant monkey, just cuz ur fuken history sux doesnt give u the right to try and steal ours!
@Bardh87 sure buddy keep believing ur own bull shit, it still wont make it true, ps i have a masters in history , and i do my own research and what ive learned is just cuz somebody wrote something down on a piece of paper doesnt make it true u fuken ape... albanians were fighting for the turqs not against, cuz ur a bunch of cowardly push overs, quit trying to be greek ! then tha gineis ellinas pote! pousti alvane!
@terrypaps13 countless sources and historians talked of the Albanian Suliotes, but you are right just cuz different sources and individuals with phd's etc talk about them and refer to them as Albanians don't make a difference in the mythical uneducated ignorant Greek state of mind....masters in history my dick.
Imagine me trying to be Greek, forsake my century old culture, tradition, language to try and be a Gypsy who's consisted of vlah/albo/turk/roma, etc blood...
@Bardh87 have u even ever been to greece u ignorant dish monkey?! its full of u uninvited douchebags like u! u talk stupid shit yet every albanians main goal in life is to fucken come to greece and live like greeks ! eat a fat greek dick bitch cuz this convo is over, i cant believe i wasted this much time talking to a lil maggot cunt bitch like u, ur beneath all human races u monkey not just greeks, do the world a favor and kill urself!
@Bardh87 have u even ever been to greece u ignorant dish monkey?! its full of u uninvited douchebags like u! u talk stupid shit yet every albanians main goal in life is to fucken come to greece and live like greeks ! eat a fat greek dick bitch cuz this convo is over, i cant believe i wasted this much time talking to a lil maggot cunt bitch like u, ur beneath all human races u monkey not just greeks, do the world a favor and kill urself!
@TheChamerian axaxax asto moj shkerdhat apo esena milaw poles glwses kalitera asto...
ke to ti ellinaras eimai to apodikneiw padu ke pada esy na mu peis pu eisai fili twn turkwn apo to mogolistan musulmanos ,mayros ke pseytis...9es na eisai k illirios
@TheChamerian esy malon ekanes polla xronia skatatzis stin ellada ja na ma9eis kala ellinika an ke eisai tuvlo? ala ute kan alvanika den ksereis por kur nuk duan nje mesim nga arvanitika mikre alvanako etsi ja na ma9eis tis rizes su kalitera gt egw tis kserw...ke einai arxaies ;)
@TheChamerian pola xronia gamate me ton kwlo oi alvanoi ayto den enoeis? i aderfi pu einai pio adras apo sena prosexe min se pidiksei ayti ...arvanitika grafw an su aresun...
Sot e kesaj dite ama turlite qe e quajne veten greke na e shesin kete histori si kur "greku" vrau "turkun"... Si shume po e nderon ky "greku" kete "turkun"...
@topgunfe Not for religion! Never during the years of Hellenic revolution! It was for money. Ali Pasha (the local Landlord placed by the Ottoman Sultan) with money or by force tried to occupy all the regions of his Region(called Phasakliki or something like this) and to change the local's religion from Christian Orthodox to Islam. Albanians (both Tosks and Geks) helped him as, well paid missionaries. But... from 750 to 1430 many people from Mongolia to central Europe went over Islam.
@topgunfe The late years Byzantines where shrinked around Constantinople and had little influence at their bordercities so Islam through Sufis called "Horasan Erenleri" was a puissant religion. And so those years Christians Orthodox and Islam, from Kallipolis to Bosnia, put up a good fight against the generally called Francs (French, British, Catalan, Milanese, Genoa, German etc) who were luting everything in their pass to Holy places. Arvanites most of them nomads who adopted C.O. lived in
@topgunfe harmony among the Greeks. Both suffered from Ottomans and Franc Crusaders. Many Arvanites established in Greece during the Ages and become Hellines when they spread their blood on the Hellenic ground. Ottomans slaughtered all those Horasan Sufis as they passed over Europe and that is why Turks though they took many places in their pass, never conquered any Nation. Giolekas was a strong mettle and Levendis. As was Fotos Tzavellas. Gioleka was a missionary and Fotos was a FREE man.
Hajde, Goga eshte shqiponja e Sulit Hajde, Gjonleka eshte asllan i Arberise(arvanitia) Hajde, Goga Dhrakun e gezon Suli Hajde ,dhe ty Gjonleka te qan Arberia (arvanitia) Hajde,gra te Laberise Ah te vishni te zezat Ajde Goga i 'forti' Vrau Gjonleken ' Perkthim i imi.....mbase e kam gabim emrin e Goga Dhrakut dhe i ' forti ' ne strofen e fundit
@TheChamerian why then they had grek flamuri,they fought for greek revolution,with the other greeks like brothers the turks and the albanians and they win?
i think it's not only the religion...they are still today...Greek tribe.
@TheChamerian markos botsaris and diakos were from suli but when suli had been taken from turks-albanians with his men he took part for the organisation of the big greek revolution against the turks and the albanians and they were many times the LEADERS of FREE GREEKS in peloponisos miles away from suli.They fought for they'r country HELLAS.i think you like very much the idea of greater albania and you think that all is yours...huge mistake..for your little nation
@TheChamerian hahahah????WHAT? you gave us freedom?????that history hotza tell's you to learn in your ''schools''? YOU gave us freedom HELPING THE TURKS MAYBE? and in 1940 you helped italians to conquer Hellas but just like 1821 you defeted from us? you call us nazi's but YOU make the division SS skaderbeg? i understand,like the weak chakal folows the taught lion, that every empire which conquered you you helped them.... HELLLAS NEVER!!!! 400 YEARS TURKISH SLAVERY BUT WE ARE STEEL HELLASSSSSSS
@TheChamerian o athanasios diakos itan apo to zituni ke itan arvanitis ayto ennousa prin. KE ne,spudazw elliniki istoria jayto exw ke apopsi opote min mu kaneis ton kuto ta kserw ola...1821 voi9usate tus turkus padu,1940 voi9usate tus italus ala ke pali tin fagate...den vrikes polemo epeidi pada alepudisia ke pustika akolu9usate tus alus. SS skaderbeg itan i alvaniki merarxia pu dimiurgi9ike apo sas me skopo ta edafi tis servias. ta tagmata ergasia to paradexomai HTAN ELLINES PRODOTES .
stin albania genika to vgazete to dimotiko i apla oi papudes sas sas lene istories ke ta berdeyete e? boreis prwta na pas strato sta 18 ke meta na spudaseis ayto pu perases stis eksetaseis vre troba albane pu 9a mu kaneis ma9ima ellinikis istoria apo tin oikodomi pu eisai oli mera petas tetoies paparies pu den kserw k egw pws asxolumai ke koroideyeis k apo panw aytoi iste oi albanoi dagwnete to xeri pu sas dinei fai .o mwame9 ke i skatoxwra su einai i idia su i katadiki.
Edw re vlaka erxomaste ekei mes stin idia sas ti xwra kai eimaste oi kalyteroi mathites kai fonazete gia ti simaia san kotes/
Eides pou eisai agramatos....perneis anavoli ,spoudazeis ,teleioneis kai meta pas strato(etsi kanoun stin ellada sou...spania eos pote den ginete auto pou grafeis)
ORE STI ELLHNIKI ISTORIA SE PAW GAMIONTAS 100XLM GIATI EISAI KAI POLY SKRAPAS ADERFAKI MOU.
Siga min me taizeis esy,edw den exete na fate ,me daneika zeite,apla mouri poulagate toso kairo.
@TheChamerian o odiseas o tsenaj itan mia ekseresi stis xilies oloi stis oikodomes iste ke sto klepsimo,giftoi tis eurwpis
egw an 9es na ksereis exw paei strato , teleiwnw anwtates spudes ke exw ke fraga KE SE PULAW KE SE AGORAZW OPOTE 9ELW ase me emena to oti i ellada xrwstaei ne exeis dikio ala ayto 9a alaksi k 9a su kopei to gelio ke apo kei katalavenw oti eisai stokos ke e9nikistis pu oute kan strato dn exeis paei ke milas meta arxidia twn alwn
@TheChamerian egw proswpika ne ...se pulaw ke se agorazw ke malista exw 30 albanus ke duleyun sto ergostasio tu papu mu ala ton psinw na parei pakistanus giati poli aera pirate
@TheChamerian Not really. Collonel Psarros and his rebel force called EDES fought against about 10000 Nazi and Albans (want to be called Chamerians) under Paramythia. It was the only time during WW2 that took place a tactical battle between Nazi forces and rebels. The rebels won the battle. Nazi retreated and turned to east but Albanians wounded ego during the retreat passed through Paramythia and torment and slaughtered about 700 non-combatant people. Man woman children priests even creepled.
@TheChamerian oh by the way!!!!! nice helmet in your profile picture...it's albanian too? or do you think that you are macedonian like they think the Fyromian pigs?
take care and search it more from where you came from
@TheChamerian for you my friend is just a helmet,maybe you dont remember your past but i do...for me is my ancestors helmet
...and for sure fyromians,albanians and greeks were not macedonians ...Hellenes were so dont call me grek call me ΕΛΛΗΝΑ / HELLENE
you are done? so were are you coming from? for my opinion you are mixed with turks that's why you take they'r religion,TOSKS have Hellenic blood, and generaly you have no common with illirians or pelasgians . that's all.
@TheChamerian Fisika dikoi mu,oi arvanites itan pada elliniko filo oso kian den 9es na to pistepsis esy ke RUM mas apokalusan oi turkoi apo to rwmios pu itan apo to vizadio.I ellada sto vizadio itan mia ftwxi eparxia apla pu i aftokratoria meta tin prwti ptwsi ekselinistike jayto legan tus eaytus tus RWMAIOUS ke vgike to romios...eisai apo ipiro k egw ama mu kapnisei ,opws esena , se lew ELLINA gt einai ellinika ta edafoi ayta k as min eisai...turkokrites itan TURKOI APOIKOI (sinexizetai)
Ksekinas lathos kai grafeis pragmata pou den stekoun istorika.
Romioi legotan oloi oi xristianoi katikoi tis Othomanikis Autokratorias(anoikse ena leksiko)
Oi tourkoi tous Arvanites tous legane Arnaout(mantepse pious alous legane etsi)
I Ipiros exei vora kai noto ...opote den einai oli ellada(pali lathos)
Oi tourkokrites itan ntopioi kritikoi pou apodextikan ton mouamethanismo akoma kai simera milane mono kritika (megali ntropi gia tin ellada auto pou tous ekane)
loipon agramate,oi byzadinoi 9ewrudan rwmaioi eksu ke i anatoliki romaiki aytokratoria pu san agramatos albanos pu eisai to 9ewreis oti itan ena me tin ellada .apo tin prwti alwsi ke meta pire i aytokratoria elliniko xaraktira ke AFU katakti9ike apo tus o9wmanus ,aytoi sinexisan na mas lene ROMIOUS. gege?
@TheChamerian vre aide twra trava voskise kana provato ke rikstu kana putso pu 9a me peis emena agramato xwriati esy alvane pu prin kana 2 dekaeties otan epefte poli pina trwgate tus papudes sas esy den xabariazeis ti su grafw Rwmaios itan o byzantinos mexri to 1204 meta ellinopoih9ike to byzadio ala proekipse oi turkoi na sinexizun na mas lene rwmius H RUM apo to anatoliki rwmaiki aytokratoria ala den se afinun ta provata na katalaveis
ps.esena ke alus 10 vazw katw ama gustarw tsutseki
@TheChamerian to kanw apo mikros ama vlepw eksipnus la9rometanastes san esena ma mu pulane fumara..ke den neyriasa...einai xara mu na se ma9enw ke kati voske
@TheChamerian Turkoxwrites itan TURKOI apoikoi opws Turkoi yparxun ke stin kipro...ESEIS ginate musulmanoi oloi mazi,tus upiretisate enadiwn mas ke twra 9elete ke ta resta? kai ama eisai tosk oi tosk na ksereis exun elliniko aima 9es na to katalaveis? kalws...apla an ksereis den eimai tixaios opws to 99% aytwn edw mesa kserw poli kala tin istoria mu ke den perimenw apo sena na mu tin ma9eis...ma9e tin diki su kalitera gt an krinw apo tin arxaioelliniki perikefalaia...den mas ta les kala
Tourkoi yparxoun kai sti ksanthi ,alla alo tourkos kai alo ellhnas mousoulmanos.ekei mperdeveste eseis.Pws geiname mousoulmanoi oloi mazi enw eimaste kai katholikoi kai orthodoksoi?
Mou fenese oti eisai poly asxetos oxi apla enas tyxaios...den exeis grapsei tipota mexri stigmis pou na mporeis na to ypostirikseis.
Sto video milame gia tous souliotes ,arketo prosfato kai den ksereis pou pane ta tesera kai thes na miliseis kai gia arxaioellhniki perikefalaia, pou den einai i syngekrimeni
@TheChamerian ax,ayto to alvaniko su koblex...den yparxun ellines mwame9anoi stin 9raki MONO turkoi mwame9anoi ksekwla oi ellines kratisan tin 9riskeia tus 400 xronia sklavias ke epanastatisan enw eseis itastan oi putanitses twn turkwn mexri tus valkanikus polemun vre zwon pu 9a mu peis oti eimai ke asxetos pu ama den ftaname stin 9esaloniki akoma turkia 9a isastan eSi na xerese ton lao su ton pulimeno misoi ka9olikoi,or9odoksoi ke mwame9anoi iste...MONO O VUDAS SAS LIPEI AXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAX
@TheChamerian ine turkoi pu exun minei prin apo tus valkanikus polemus ke tus leme pomakus
krima pu prolave ke den mas afise o Hitler na proxwrisume mexri oli tin albania to 1940 na sas ksekwliazame edelws ala...den peirazei...next time
loipon...turkalvane...parte fora...eseis ke aytoi ...ke opoioi aloi...ke klaste mas ta arxidia...den katalavenete oti eseis iste se kindino para emeis? mia klania iste ja mas ti nomizete .. i nomizeis 9a parete tin voria makedonia ...ja tus ellines einai
@TheChamerian egw pisteyw eseis oi alvanoi iste arketa eksipnoi ala den exete kanei kati diko sas to aksiologo opote zileyetai tus alus politismus...epeisis pisteuw den 9a sikwnes kefali na peis tin ipiro albaniki an den se voi9use i ameriki...pote den 9a to ekanes ayto...exw akusei kati ja UCC ke kserw ti simainei den eimai vlakas,kserw pu to pate...min to paratravate poli to skini omws..i ELLADA den einai servia...exw paei eidikes dinameis sta 18 mu kiolas ke enimeronomai ... filiki sizitisi
Kai egw pistevw oti eseis oi legomenoi neoellhnes eiste vlakes.Kamaronete gia ton arxaio politismo twn ellhnwn kai poulate souflakia kai mpouzoukia(tourkika)
akoma kai tous topous latrias twn arxaiwn katastrepsate gia ti nea sas thriskia ..
To oti peiges eidikes dynameis den exei kamia sxesi(ta pio kompleksika atoma pane ekei)
Egw den exw idea ti einai to UCC kai den me endiaferei,ta synora den allazoun.
@TheChamerian tulaxiston kserume pioi imastan KAI PIOI 9A KSANAGINUME ke stin teliki NE ta suvlakia ta pirame apo tus turkus omws eixame ta arxidia ston polemo tu 1920 ke apixame liga xiliometra apo tin AGIRA enw eseis ute kratos den eixate kanate metaneies ston alax san tis pulimenes putanes
sto eipa asxete,oi byzadinoi ta katestrepsan oxi oi ellines
UCC einai to en dinamei adartiko ja tin CAMERIA... tromara sas
prwta piga strato meta ja spudes ala pu na to skefteis stin oikodomi pu eisai
@TheChamerian giati kaname la9os stratigiki enw eprepe na parume tin kwstadinupoli ... ke emeis petame panw apo smirni den leei kati ayto :)
milas me arxidia twn alwn xaraktiristikotatos kobleksikos alvanakos ,ja pes o re,eseis me ti petate panw apo tin ipiro? me xartaetus i ftiaxnete saites? aaxaxax
mikre ,epeidi sti sizitisi arxizeis ke les mlkies,ama ipirxe UCC 9a itan enas logos meta apo mines na klete ke ja ta tirana oxi mono ja tin ipiro asto su lew den to'xeis..trava oikodomi
@TheChamerian esy ginesai rezili ke den to exeis katalavei vlakako tosi wra ..me ta F16 tus skizume ton kwlo opote kanun paraviasi ke benume k emeis ke kanun paraviaseis ala pu na ta ksereis esy ayta afu exete stin albaniki aeroporia mono xartaetus ke tus petate to pasxa AXAXAXAXAXAX
otan pane ellines sta tirana metanastes...stile mu sto kinito malaka
@TheChamerian ke emeis tus rixnume ta 10plasia mono pu den to lene 1on,
exun ta triplasia omws exume kaliteris texnologias apo aytus ke apeira nisia me piravlus 2on,ke 3on sinexizeis na kseftilizeis tin idi kseftilismeni ratsa su me to na milas me ta arxidia twn alwn...su eipa...i turkia den exei @@dia na mas kanei tipota ala ti lew...k eseis turkospermata iste ara ute eseis den exete @@dia jayto...arakse stin oikodomi pu duleueis ke ase ta adrilikia apo to pc Youtube Hero
@TheChamerian KE aytoi KE eseis mas klanete ta arxidia mono sto youtube kanete ton polemo etsi einai milaw me ali9ina stoixeia...apo to 1970 exun 3plasies apoleies se aeroskafoi jati einai asxetoi pilotoi poli apla
esy tin pas ekei tin sizitisi ala ayto to eidame to 1821,to 1913,to 1940 poso floria eimaste...ase eisai bukomenos ke ksereis me ti...
A ke pata - albanian faces - ligo sto youtube na su li9ei i aporeia epidi den exeis agorasei akoma ka9refti stin vila pu meneis xaxaxax mogole
@TheChamerian ap oti fenetai klaneis k ayto fenetai apo ta 'facts' pu mu dineis...su eipa tis apoleies apo to 70' ke meta ke oti stratiwtika den exete elpida k esy les ''eipame eisai vlakas alla exei kai oria i vlakeia.'' .....ooookkkaaayyy
ne lesk ne githmon te PO axaxax se duleyw apo tin arxi tis sizitisis ala ise toso ''eksipnos'' pu....xaxax katalaves
ne to 21' ke sas gamisame to 13 tin ipiro ke den kanate tipota ke to 40 esas ke tus italous pali putsa ...pio meta o zervas ;)
Pia facts edwses re asxeto?epeidi to egrapses einai kai facts ...facts einai otan yparxoun stixeis na stirikseis kati pou les kai esy den egrapses giati apla den yparxoun.
Ton eauto sou douleveis apo ti mera pou ton katalaves, den eisai aksios na doulepseis alo atomo.Pote stous polemous pou anafereis den simetixe i Alvania.
@TheChamerian k egw vare9ika mias ke eisai kefali agiristo .
koita, sovara twra...tin istoria pote kaneis den 9a tin ma9ei opws etsi akrivws egine...ute egw ute esy..kapoioi mas tin dinun na tin ma9enume opws 9elun aftoi...pisteyw na simfwneis se afto...tin kuveda tin epiasa ja na ma9w ti skeptesai k opws vlepeis se anagasa na piaseis ola ta 9emata...tespa..ok you know
Rrofte shqiperiaaa....ALBANIA FOR EVER ....ILIRIA eshte shqipetare...arvanitan jan shqipetar edhe ne qjofshe nuk e thon se kan turp....ALBANIA ETHNIC .......grek te qelbur po ju vjen ora edhe juve...
Mariosguns97 8 hours ago
Goga was an Arvanite not a dirty Cham!! Biiiig Difference!!!! Chams are Turk and Nazi lovers! Arvanites chose to be Greek and not Albanian, ask any Arvanite, gomar!
steve81132 18 hours ago
ΛΕΒΕΝΤΕΣ ΜΑΣ<3
ΕΛΛΑΣ ΓΙΑ ΠΑΝΤΑ!
nemesisGreekpride 4 days ago
LONG LIVE THE GREEK SOULITES
cobone2 4 days ago
Ποτε η Ελλάδα δεν ειχε καλλους γειτόνους... Τι περιμενεις απο Αλβανια, Σκοπια.. Βουλγαρια.. και Τουρκία.. Αν ειχαμε καμια Σουηδία ή Νορβηγία.. θα βλέπαμε την αναπτυξη της χωρας μας και την οικονομια της.. αλλα με κωλοκρατοι γυρω μας.. τι κανουμε.. Πεσανε σαν τα κορακια να μας φανε.. αιωνες και αιωνες δεν ηρεμησε η γη μας.. μας λεηλατησαν απο παντου.. Θελουν την γη μας, τον ουρανο μας.. τον πολτισμικο και φυσικο πλουτο μας !!!!
biribarabi 1 week ago
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arcotroll 1 week ago
Du u see what religion did to ass the brother went and kill the other brother shame.
albolondon 2 weeks ago
if albanias are like ancient greek so in this time would be great personalities in arts science etc . the dna lives into the centuries. greeks never stop do great thing until now. writers artists scientists etc.
drivenmastro 1 month ago
@drivenmastro vella then i suggest you go check dna of both countrys,,.
illyrianalbanian100 1 week ago
Greek people is a racist nation, and not structures, that in Greece 1812-1821 speak Albanian (Arvanites) and I have the facts and accepted by the Greek historians, Albanians migrated because of a bad system that had blocked , the Albanian people to Greek people sentest mburet warriors with them, and considers that the Greek warriors,
iliri134 1 month ago
@iliri134 it must be really accurate what you say...XD
FOTARAStheGREEK 2 weeks ago
@iliri134 not all greeks are racist vella.mos te jete pa kuptim.
illyrianalbanian100 1 week ago
etsi bravo koga...skotwse ton turkalvano ke kathe pusti....koga fucked the albanian
DaimonaC 1 month ago
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iliri134 1 month ago
pelasgians have more connections with the albanians than the greeks the polyhonic singing shows that too
K1ALBOGANGSTA 1 month ago
STANFORD UNIVERSITY-
1) The DNA make-up of today's Greeks is 99.5% white. The study cliams that today's Greek has 99.5% the same DNA make-up as as the white Greeks of ancient times.
2) Contrary to beliefs by many in Turkey and certain Slavic nations of ex-Yugoslavia, Greek DNA has not been influenced, nor altered, by the mixture of Slavic or Turkish DNA, even though Ottomans ruled a large part of Greece for 400 years.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso
3) Out of a sample of 925 modern-day Greek DNA, only 0.4% exhibited non-white DNA.
4) To a large extenet, Greeks of the ancient time "transfered" their DNA to other parts of Europe through their conquests. The study showed that, today, Greek DNA is most similar to: a) Italian DNA, b) French DNA, c) Spanish DNA, d) Turkish DNA.
5) The DNA of Italians in modern day southern Italy is the closest match to the DNA of their Greek neighbors.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso
Also from Baghdad and Moscow Universities. The 67% of dna of greeks has a paleolithic origin 50000-10000 b.c. The 10,7%neolithic origin 10000-3000 b.c.
Other participants also 5 other research laboratories in different countries.
The survey results published the American journal Human Genetics.
Survey name "The origins, dispersal and diversification of haplogroups E and J, the Y chromosome:Implications for the Neolithic colonization of Europe and later events in the Mediterranean.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso
Stated facts about the Purity of my Race. Please do so with yours too. I stated results of Researches that have not been conducted by my country and not under my countries order. Some of them were asked by a country North of Greece. Not Albania-Not Serbia or Bulgary. Also...about the language that people stated earlier and told me to learn my language and accept my past. Do you know what Balkans means? Search that and put your brain in some thought why this region took that name.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso
Instead of having a storng continent of Balkan Countries and not be under Europe and U.S.A. we are in war and fights amongst us all the time.Thats why there will never be Great Albania or Bulgary that reaches the sea or "Macedonia"(Skopia-their previous president said: We are not ancestors of Great Alexander we are geographically Macedonia-of course before the election day he was saying other things) till Thessaloniki.Yougoslavia was strongest country around and they ruined her.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso
All these happen because they do not want us to be in complete peace but all the time near war. The G5 do not want us stable. When you understand that you will figure out that its not Grees the "bad" guy around just because it is a wealthier country.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso
Adding for above.The research of STANFORD UNIVERSITY + Pavia University of Italy.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
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@Gentsatso
Adding for above.The research of STANFORD UNIVERSITY + Pavia University of Italy.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
ANALBANIANS GO AND WORK NOW FOR THE GREEK BOSSES NO MORE PAUSE..TURK COMMUNIST SUCKERS..Go fix your analbania your country make progress and fix YOUR history stop all the time to shine ON GREEK HISTORY PRIDE AND SUCCESS now back to work Install an Air Conditioner for a greek and LEAVE the soulioute because these was greek albanians hellenes ortodox christians who fucked you very very hard therefor the analbania name of your country RUN NOW TO INSTALL THE AIRCONDION
dangerousnick1 2 months ago
Oi ellines einai mounopana re oloi tous.... apla ta pragmata ... enw eprepe na mas proskinane twra thn exoune dei yperano ta poustrakia... ante re mounopana parte poulous.
SandriAlbania 2 months ago
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for anyone having questions about Suliotet go listen to the documentary done by greek historians ( /watch?v=p98D7Fql1Dk ). Luckily some clever people left in Greece still.
olnel1 2 months ago
My name is Souliotis-I come from Aitoloakarnania.After the war and the defeat at Souli Souliotes scattered all over Greece.Most of them went at Parga and the ionian islands until the war was over while others decided to fight further on(for example at Messolongi where they died fighting). I am one of their descendants and all of us consider ourselves and our ancestors Greeks.
Gentsatso 2 months ago
@Gentsatso U r a greek because for many generation you have been living in a country that is called Greece. From what u just said u appear to be very ignorant and uneducated. Our ancestors we didn't choose, but we cannot deny who they were. Instead of admitting with pride your ancestry u try to change it... how pitiful! Suliotet were Albanians who remained christians and fought the turks for freedom not just for greece. U r a shame to your ancestors, like many arvanitas nowadays are!
volnl 2 months ago
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Gentsatso 1 month ago
@volnl I am ignorant? Here goes: 1) Labros Koutsonikas was a fighter in the 1821 Rebelion-He was son of Faras Koutsonika and younger brother of Athanasios Koutsonikas.He dies cause he was old.When he was younger as i mentioned he was fighting in the rebelion and when young he was writing the history of Souliotes as it was happening.In his writings he states the following.Souliotes were living there(Souli) from the ancient times in order to avoid the Roman Armies.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@volnl 2) Athanasios Psalidas was Ali Pasas secretary in his books he states that Souliotes were fighting the Albanians for many years before the Turks and in one of his writings it is stated from other source that Greece still gives birth to heros like Leonidas and Themistocles.
3)The Enemies of Souliotes were saying the were Greeks-Facts:Meli Pasas-Son of Ali Pasas was writing letters to his father from April until December 1803.In these he calls Souliotes Romans-Romius-Romegus that meant Gr.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@volnl
3) Ahmet Mufit Elder Grand Son of Ali Pasas was outraged with Souliotes- He tried to make them Albanian Orthodox but failed. He was furious cause they were remaining Greek Orthodox and states that they begun the attack on Ali Pasas.He also said that they were political instruments of Russia.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso Start reading some wikipedia, most info there is checked. And stop making a fool of yourself by talking about things u don't know. I go to a very prestigious university in the US and i have greek friends and none of them talk like u, and we are all PhDs. Don't be so emotionally involved and try to prove things that dont exist. Your problem is u wanna say ur a Souliot but as a typical greek also think albanians are immigrants bla bla and don't wanna relate. u can't undo history!
volnl 1 month ago
@volnl .oooo Amazed...still cannot see any facts from you...what i wrote about DNA is wiki..the rest is Bretanica...sorry... so Graikoi u say? In ancient Greek Mythology Pandora gave birth to Graikos -son of Zeus. That about Mythology.And now Etymology... The first name of Greek people was Graikoi and then they got renamed into Ellines... So prestigious university in the US...and u r PhDs and your Greek friends opinion??
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@volnl And i think that albanians are immigrants? So u do not know me and blame me to be a racist.Firstly.. Albanians ARE immigrants---not negative--- they just looking for a better future..no bad thing about that..also not blaming them for anything..There are tons of Greek immigrants in Australia-USA and especially Germany...millions not a few...(not talking for more than our population and that we are 20 millions of people of course)... Where i work
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso Albanians are just a bit less than Greeks..they have been born in Greece and saying we are Albanians and are proud of it....So What ? i do not care about from where each guy is from or what he is doing here?? He is working and he is legal... so i do not care at all..... here we are talking about a different thing and your false and wrong opinion about my thoughts for your country is making this..not me.. Sorry Expected more from someone that
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso is doing PhDs in US... Crap on that... Perk... as u texted for me...
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@volnl 4) Souliotes were Speaking two Languages:Greek and Albanic but could write only in Greek
5)They are considered one of the Ancient Greek Tribes Selous 800 b.c.
6) City of Solion acording to Thucidides the best historian of the ancient times.
7)Souliots seem to have stayed in Souli around 16th century.
And u tell me that i am Greek because i am in Greece for many Generations. We are in Greece from our firstborn that took under that name.
Thank you for your reply-Friendly and Peace.
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso thats ridiculous, a university from Baghdat and Moscow? I checked your references and the article "Origin, Diffusion, and Differentiation of Y-Chromosome Haplogroups E and J: Inferences on the Neolithization of Europe and Later Migratory Events in the Mediterranean Area" and it says none of the things u claim. I don't think u understand much of what u read. Your firstborn was greek? Hahahaha we all come from Africa u moron! Stop referring to Stanford for your lies, they're unfounded.
volnl 1 month ago
@Gentsatso, "Greek ancestors" who spoke as their mothers tongue Arvantika or Albanian! But even if you consider your self "greek" take some linguistic lessons and find out what does graikoi means, and what tribe did they belong too! The sooner you do that, the better you will understand your real ancestors history.
TRAZUAR 2 months ago
@TRAZUAR graikoi ... was not something the Greek people were using. It was used by our conquerors (Turks) and it was something negative to show that we were slaves. Simple as that(and i have no grudge against Turks for those things of the past).
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso...no, you are wrong! Graikoi is a term that was used since in ancient times when Romans came in contact with the Balkans! Graikoi was a tribe that belonged to the Illyrian nation, because the Balkans in ancient times was called Illyrio-Pelasgian Peninsula...and me etymology of this word is Gra-wich in albanian means women..koi-I think is old...and from this tribe took the name all the Helen tribes which still were Illyro-Pelasgian!
TRAZUAR 1 month ago
@TRAZUAR Ok....whatever i say is wrong--so..As you should know Illyrians is not an old tribe..Its the youngest that have appeared in the balkans...so Illyrians were living generally in nowdays area that these countries exist: Albania-Kosovo-Mavrovunio-Slovenia-Skopia-Croatia-Bosnia Ergegovini-Serbia.
Pelasgoi have nothing to do with the Illyrians for sure...As Pelasgoi are Described tribes with different languages in different areas.Some of them were living in Thesally and Attica...
Gentsatso 1 month ago
@Gentsatso Pelasgoi=People from Prehellenic Era that is centuries before the illyrians and we do not have infos for them from the ancient writers. Believe me i am not wrong.From what i saw in your profile your are a strong Albanian Patriot and whatever i say u will not agree with me. Different opinions from different nations..You should accept that. I am well aware from what i write since i studied it and doing it for a living....Even though in my country we are taking few money and not employed
Gentsatso 1 month ago
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@Gentsatso, "Greek ancestors" who spoke as their mothers tongue Arvantika or Albanian! But even if you consider your self "greek" take some linguistic lessons and find out what does graikoi means, and what tribe did they belong too! The sooner you do that, the better you will understand your real ancestors history.
TRAZUAR 2 months ago
@Gentsatso Im an ALBANIAN from south,im remind u between Albania and Greece was total different country EPIR ,witch was more ALBANIAN than Greeks the CHAMERIA are not GREEK ,recognizable from rest of the world ,as greek basrard wait and see GREECE is going down every single day ,differently ALBANIA soon will be GREAT ALBANIA,,Kosovo ,Skopie,Chameria SHQIPERIA under SCANDERBEG flag the GREAT ALBANIA
genciS100 1 month ago
@Rockblacksoul
:)
3ereis arvanitika?
AlbScanderbeg 3 months ago
@Rockblacksoul
Poia einai i katagwgi twn arvanitwn? shqipetar dn einai?
AlbScanderbeg 3 months ago
@Rockblacksoul ΟΛΟΙ ΟΙ ΑΛΒΑΝΟΙ ΠΕΡΗΦΑΝΟΙ ΝΟΙΩΘΟΥΝ ΚΑΙ ΚΑΛΑ ΚΑΝΟΥΝ!ΕΓΩ ΠΑΛΙ ΕΙΜΑΙ ΠΕΡΗΦΑΝΟΣ ΠΟΥ ΕΙΜΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΚΑΘΑΡΟΣ!
kyriazispap 3 months ago
ΕΤΣΙ ΓΙΑ ΝΑ ΓΟΥΣΤΑΡΟΥΜΕ.... Ο ΜΕΣΟΣ ΑΡΒΑΝΙΤΗΣ ΓΙΑ ΝΑ ΤΟΥ ΠΑΕΙ ΚΑΛΑ Η ΜΕΡΑ ΑΡΧΙΖΕΙ ΜΕ ΧΡΙΣΤΟΠΑΝΑΓΙΕΣ... ΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΧΑΧΑΑΧ
82mitsakos 4 months ago
hahaha cool video!im Greek and this is one of my favourite movies..in this scene we can see Goga Drako the great Suliote fighting against Gjonleka the albanian and killing him in the end!...Gjonleka was send by the sultan to take over Souli...haha THANK U ALBANIANS FOR SHOWING TO THE WORLD THAT ALBANIANS WERE FIGHTING ON THE TURKISH SIDE...AND THAT ALBANIANS ARE BASICALLY TURKS ;)
ElectraofMaced0n 4 months ago
@ElectraofMaced0n
Suli were albanian aswell, thats no secret...and you are basicly an idiot ;)
ylley 4 months ago
@ylley Souliotes fought against the albanians thats exactly what we see in this video..Gogas Drakos killing Gioleka the albanian..obviously u lack the ability of vision and hearing....
ElectraofMaced0n 4 months ago
@ElectraofMaced0n
oh sorry,i thought you are able to think one step further. but yes suli fought againts albanian, you have muslim and orthodox albanian fightin each other. even marko bocari was killed by a catholic albanian mercenary...fighting each other doesnt separate their origins
ylley 4 months ago
@ylley yeah but u forget one detail (?)
They didnt fought for albania but for Greece..
if u call these people albanians while they fought for a free Greece then u have a problem :D
ElectraofMaced0n 4 months ago
@ElectraofMaced0n
you said it, they fought for free greece! that deosnt make them greek. i still call them albanian, fierce warriors who prevented that fact that today your name would be hassan or murat ;)
ylley 4 months ago
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@ylley "you said it, they fought for free greece! that deosnt make them greek. i still call them albanian, fierce warriors who prevented that fact that today your name would be hassan or murat ;)"
IT IS SIMPLE: IF THEY HAD CONSCIENCE OF ALBANIAN NATION, THEN WE HAD EXTERMINATED THEM, OR LESS WE HAD KICKED OUT THEM.
KRONOSELLAS 3 months ago
@ElectraofMaced0n u r ignorant, if u don't know much why do u blabber. they fought for a free land because they believed in freedom. Before the major part of Albanian population changed religion greeks and albanians weren't fighting each other like they are today. Obviously there was the change in language etc but when turks invaded they came together to fight for a common cause. The world population was much smaller back then so think of families.
volnl 2 months ago
@ElectraofMaced0n U don't even know the history of your own country. The greeks should be the last people to create bad stereotypes on Albos, given the history, u wanna call greeks the ones who are heroes but not the Albos who caused trouble in the 90s. Thats not how it works dude. It's not a topic open for discussion. t's a fact that Suliotet are Albanian, and they are strong people like all Albanians are :). Read Wikipedia!
volnl 2 months ago
@ElectraofMaced0n What u see in this video is the separation that religion brought among Albanians. Give up on learning and writing already, admit u r an idiot and live in peace with yourself, u obviously dont have the capacity. Go do a mediocre job that doesn't require any brain usage, dance Zorba or sth. Nuff said!
volnl 2 months ago
@ElectraofMaced0n another greek moron, what a surprise! :P
volnl 2 months ago
for anyone having questions about Suliotet go listen to the documentary done by greek historians ( /watch?v=p98D7Fql1Dk ). Luckily some clever people left in Greece still.
olnel1 2 months ago
Long live immortal Greece!
FOTARAStheGREEK 4 months ago
e re zervas pou sou xreiazetai....
silveropoulos7 5 months ago
ALBANE DE THA GINEIS ELLINAS POTE !!!
Sakis27Gr 5 months ago
some concepts in homers odyssey and iliad may sounded familiar to many people around the world but not the language he use.
MENEAPNEONTES 5 months ago
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THE SULIOTES ARE GREEKS THE albanians ARE FROM CAUCASUS
unfukkkmee 11 months ago
@unfukkkmee not true
meraklees 6 months ago
If you think Suliotes weren't Albanian....
Search this on Google...
New York Times 1880 Albanian
Bardh87 1 year ago
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YiannisThiakos 11 months ago
@Bardh87 Author: Sarantos Kargakos Title: Albanians - Arvanites - Hellines
Many useful info for u
meraklees 6 months ago
THE ANALbanians U ARE FROM CAUCASUS U HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BALKANS.
@meraklees SULIOT-SOULIOT IS GREEK WORD. THE SULIOTS ARE GREEKS
unfukkkmee 6 months ago
@meraklees I can't find the book right now but I read a little piece on a forum posted by your fellow Greeks, and I already see what it is about....
It is a fact that Arvanites were indeed Albanian I have countless proof about it and my conclusion is based on evidence that includes their music, tradition, language, historical facts written about them at the time, etc...I have the sources, songs to articles, etc if you wish to have them i will list them for you....
Bardh87 6 months ago
@meraklees I have moved on to the Homeric Society, When I studied classical cultures and read Homeric Stories, for example like Odysseus....the concept of the Guest etc all sounded to familiar to me specially considering him wearing the Plis(both my grandparents wore) and the Fustanella(Greek historians have admitted it to belong to the Albanians)...The concept guest, honor, etc all too familiar to the Kanun and i was correct...look at K. Yamamoto's ethical structure of Kanun and Homeric Society
Bardh87 6 months ago
@meraklees piece by piece the jigsaw puzzle is being put together....many theories are being claimed invalid by proof that keeps surfacing about the Balkan history...they say the Victor writes History....but he/they must also be able to defend it!
Ex. Greeks claim Epirus...when we have Gjergj Kastrioti's letter to Prince of Taranto who makes it clear who they were.....such as Pirro of Epiri who was raised by Illyrians, etc...im done goodbye.
Bardh87 6 months ago
@Bardh87 ya sure ill trust an americans word about my history and greek culture u ignorant monkey, just cuz ur fuken history sux doesnt give u the right to try and steal ours!
terrypaps13 5 months ago
@terrypaps13 if you don't trust Americans than listen to your own historians, they say the same......imbicile
Bardh87 5 months ago
@Bardh87 sure buddy keep believing ur own bull shit, it still wont make it true, ps i have a masters in history , and i do my own research and what ive learned is just cuz somebody wrote something down on a piece of paper doesnt make it true u fuken ape... albanians were fighting for the turqs not against, cuz ur a bunch of cowardly push overs, quit trying to be greek ! then tha gineis ellinas pote! pousti alvane!
terrypaps13 5 months ago
@terrypaps13 countless sources and historians talked of the Albanian Suliotes, but you are right just cuz different sources and individuals with phd's etc talk about them and refer to them as Albanians don't make a difference in the mythical uneducated ignorant Greek state of mind....masters in history my dick.
Imagine me trying to be Greek, forsake my century old culture, tradition, language to try and be a Gypsy who's consisted of vlah/albo/turk/roma, etc blood...
Bardh87 5 months ago
@Bardh87 wow ur retarted, go back to washing our cars and our dishes and leave the history to us gimp
terrypaps13 5 months ago
@terrypaps13 ahahahahahah, what other reply can you expect from an idiot...what cars and dishes? your done begging EU for money?
Bardh87 5 months ago
@Bardh87 are u done begging us for money?! faggot
terrypaps13 5 months ago
@terrypaps13 imagine that!!
Bardh87 5 months ago
@Bardh87 don't need to imagine it i see it happen everyday, it's thx to greece that albania has food to eat and cloths on her back!
terrypaps13 5 months ago
@terrypaps13 lol ahahahah a country that can't even feed itself or clothes itself is going to do it for another....ahahahahahahah
Bardh87 5 months ago
@Bardh87 have u even ever been to greece u ignorant dish monkey?! its full of u uninvited douchebags like u! u talk stupid shit yet every albanians main goal in life is to fucken come to greece and live like greeks ! eat a fat greek dick bitch cuz this convo is over, i cant believe i wasted this much time talking to a lil maggot cunt bitch like u, ur beneath all human races u monkey not just greeks, do the world a favor and kill urself!
terrypaps13 5 months ago
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@Bardh87 have u even ever been to greece u ignorant dish monkey?! its full of u uninvited douchebags like u! u talk stupid shit yet every albanians main goal in life is to fucken come to greece and live like greeks ! eat a fat greek dick bitch cuz this convo is over, i cant believe i wasted this much time talking to a lil maggot cunt bitch like u, ur beneath all human races u monkey not just greeks, do the world a favor and kill urself!
terrypaps13 5 months ago
@terrypaps13 lol ahahahah a country that can't even feed itself or clothes itself is going to do it for another....ahahahahahahah
Bardh87 5 months ago
den katalavenw giati otan sas lene alvanus pareksigiste...?
AXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAAAXAXAXAXXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAX
grek nuk behesht KURRE o derr shqipSHIT ...epidi ta Ellinika ute ta katalaveneis OUTE EISAI AKSIOS NA TA MILAS
ΑΛΒΑΝΕ
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Poios pareksigeite..oi Arvanites?
Kamari mou
Dhe ti qe u bere cfare kuptove?Malon kai ta grafw kai ta kserw kalytera apo sena...
maimou ellhnas eisai
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian axaxax asto moj shkerdhat apo esena milaw poles glwses kalitera asto...
ke to ti ellinaras eimai to apodikneiw padu ke pada esy na mu peis pu eisai fili twn turkwn apo to mogolistan musulmanos ,mayros ke pseytis...9es na eisai k illirios
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Den se kovw gia paliako ellhna,gia kainourgia fournia mou fenese kai apsiti malista.
Posa xronia exeis stin ellada re?Den emathes akoma na ta milas.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian esy malon ekanes polla xronia skatatzis stin ellada ja na ma9eis kala ellinika an ke eisai tuvlo? ala ute kan alvanika den ksereis por kur nuk duan nje mesim nga arvanitika mikre alvanako etsi ja na ma9eis tis rizes su kalitera gt egw tis kserw...ke einai arxaies ;)
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Polla xronia gamias ekana .Rota mia tin aderfi sou den einai kako.
Ti prospatheis na grapseis Alvanika re noumero?Edw kala kala den ksereis ellhnika dhe do te besh dhe mesim.
Arxaies einai oi antilipseis sou oxi oi rizes sou.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian pola xronia gamate me ton kwlo oi alvanoi ayto den enoeis? i aderfi pu einai pio adras apo sena prosexe min se pidiksei ayti ...arvanitika grafw an su aresun...
DaimonaC 1 year ago
Sot e kesaj dite ama turlite qe e quajne veten greke na e shesin kete histori si kur "greku" vrau "turkun"... Si shume po e nderon ky "greku" kete "turkun"...
eroshi 1 year ago
sorry but i don't understand if gjoleka is arvanites and suliotes are arvanites why they fight?
topgunfe 1 year ago
@topgunfe
Religion............
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@topgunfe
But use to respect each-other....
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian tell me can you improuve that souliotes where not greeks? because im arvanite and i say that im proud greek.
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
I have to proove nothing.
It is the truth .
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@topgunfe Not for religion! Never during the years of Hellenic revolution! It was for money. Ali Pasha (the local Landlord placed by the Ottoman Sultan) with money or by force tried to occupy all the regions of his Region(called Phasakliki or something like this) and to change the local's religion from Christian Orthodox to Islam. Albanians (both Tosks and Geks) helped him as, well paid missionaries. But... from 750 to 1430 many people from Mongolia to central Europe went over Islam.
meraclees 1 year ago
@topgunfe The late years Byzantines where shrinked around Constantinople and had little influence at their bordercities so Islam through Sufis called "Horasan Erenleri" was a puissant religion. And so those years Christians Orthodox and Islam, from Kallipolis to Bosnia, put up a good fight against the generally called Francs (French, British, Catalan, Milanese, Genoa, German etc) who were luting everything in their pass to Holy places. Arvanites most of them nomads who adopted C.O. lived in
meraclees 1 year ago
@topgunfe harmony among the Greeks. Both suffered from Ottomans and Franc Crusaders. Many Arvanites established in Greece during the Ages and become Hellines when they spread their blood on the Hellenic ground. Ottomans slaughtered all those Horasan Sufis as they passed over Europe and that is why Turks though they took many places in their pass, never conquered any Nation. Giolekas was a strong mettle and Levendis. As was Fotos Tzavellas. Gioleka was a missionary and Fotos was a FREE man.
meraclees 1 year ago
@meraclees You right..Gjonleka was a missionary and Fotos was FREE man...
pellumbaballinj 6 months ago
TheChamerian 1 year ago
you can translate please in albanian or english
topgunfe 1 year ago
@topgunfe Hajde, Goga eshte shqiponja e Sulit
Hajde, Gjonleka eshte asllan i Arberise(arvanitia)
Hajde, Goga Dhrakun e gezon Suli
Hajde ,dhe ty Gjonleka te qan Arberia (arvanitia)
Hajde,gra te Laberise
Ah te vishni te zezat
Ajde Goga i 'forti'
Vrau Gjonleken
'
Perkthim i imi.....mbase e kam gabim emrin e Goga Dhrakut dhe i ' forti ' ne strofen e fundit
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@topgunfe Sorry man I am Kosovo Albanian but I dont understand the words
of this Heroic funeral ! I think is Strong Arberish Dialect !But I kan wel reed and
undersand the Text ! Faliminderit per Tekstin e Videos !!! Rroftë Kombi Shqiptar!!!
maljaron 1 year ago
@maljaron
The language is Greek...not Albanian.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian why then they had grek flamuri,they fought for greek revolution,with the other greeks like brothers the turks and the albanians and they win?
i think it's not only the religion...they are still today...Greek tribe.
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
They had not greek 'simaia'
They fought for their land and freedom (money also)
They spoke Albanian ,they had Albanian rules.
They were christians and that is the only thing in common with greeks.
This is the truth and nothing more
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian markos botsaris and diakos were from suli but when suli had been taken from turks-albanians with his men he took part for the organisation of the big greek revolution against the turks and the albanians and they were many times the LEADERS of FREE GREEKS in peloponisos miles away from suli.They fought for they'r country HELLAS.i think you like very much the idea of greater albania and you think that all is yours...huge mistake..for your little nation
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Marko Bocari was from Suli but Athanasios Diakos was not.
Marko Bocari never fought in Peloponiso (was the teritorry of Bythgouras-Kwlokotroni)
At the time they fought was no country Hellas.
You think wrong .....I seek the truth.
My nation yes is small but gave you freedom.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian hahahah????WHAT? you gave us freedom?????that history hotza tell's you to learn in your ''schools''? YOU gave us freedom HELPING THE TURKS MAYBE? and in 1940 you helped italians to conquer Hellas but just like 1821 you defeted from us? you call us nazi's but YOU make the division SS skaderbeg? i understand,like the weak chakal folows the taught lion, that every empire which conquered you you helped them.... HELLLAS NEVER!!!! 400 YEARS TURKISH SLAVERY BUT WE ARE STEEL HELLASSSSSSS
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
I can bring you few greek historians and writters that support that.....
Dont start this conversetion with me when you dont even know where Athanasios Diakos is from.
1940 and 1821 I did my research and I didnt find Albanian-Greek war?
And I dont think that war ever existed.
SSskenderbeg were made from Germans in Kosovo....
Tagmata Asfalias were made from nazi greek volountiers in Athens and they used to kill and torture they own people.SSSkenderbeg fought against Serbs.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian o athanasios diakos itan apo to zituni ke itan arvanitis ayto ennousa prin. KE ne,spudazw elliniki istoria jayto exw ke apopsi opote min mu kaneis ton kuto ta kserw ola...1821 voi9usate tus turkus padu,1940 voi9usate tus italus ala ke pali tin fagate...den vrikes polemo epeidi pada alepudisia ke pustika akolu9usate tus alus. SS skaderbeg itan i alvaniki merarxia pu dimiurgi9ike apo sas me skopo ta edafi tis servias. ta tagmata ergasia to paradexomai HTAN ELLINES PRODOTES .
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Grafontas oti einai apo to souli ennoouses oti einai apo to zitouni?
pws spoudazeis enw peiges ethelontis eidikes dynameis sta 18 sou?
Mikre ....sou eipa mi grafeis alo giati tha se kanw rompa kai den to thelw....AKOU TAGMATA ERGASIAS....xaxaaaa
Kai o skenderbeg itan o teleftaios pou antistatheike stous tourkous otan eseis oloi eixate ginei tourkia.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian
stin albania genika to vgazete to dimotiko i apla oi papudes sas sas lene istories ke ta berdeyete e? boreis prwta na pas strato sta 18 ke meta na spudaseis ayto pu perases stis eksetaseis vre troba albane pu 9a mu kaneis ma9ima ellinikis istoria apo tin oikodomi pu eisai oli mera petas tetoies paparies pu den kserw k egw pws asxolumai ke koroideyeis k apo panw aytoi iste oi albanoi dagwnete to xeri pu sas dinei fai .o mwame9 ke i skatoxwra su einai i idia su i katadiki.
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Edw re vlaka erxomaste ekei mes stin idia sas ti xwra kai eimaste oi kalyteroi mathites kai fonazete gia ti simaia san kotes/
Eides pou eisai agramatos....perneis anavoli ,spoudazeis ,teleioneis kai meta pas strato(etsi kanoun stin ellada sou...spania eos pote den ginete auto pou grafeis)
ORE STI ELLHNIKI ISTORIA SE PAW GAMIONTAS 100XLM GIATI EISAI KAI POLY SKRAPAS ADERFAKI MOU.
Siga min me taizeis esy,edw den exete na fate ,me daneika zeite,apla mouri poulagate toso kairo.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian o odiseas o tsenaj itan mia ekseresi stis xilies oloi stis oikodomes iste ke sto klepsimo,giftoi tis eurwpis
egw an 9es na ksereis exw paei strato , teleiwnw anwtates spudes ke exw ke fraga KE SE PULAW KE SE AGORAZW OPOTE 9ELW ase me emena to oti i ellada xrwstaei ne exeis dikio ala ayto 9a alaksi k 9a su kopei to gelio ke apo kei katalavenw oti eisai stokos ke e9nikistis pu oute kan strato dn exeis paei ke milas meta arxidia twn alwn
irwes tu youtube ola ta alvania
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Ekseresi pou epiveveonei ton kanona...
Giftoi?Oxi da ...eseis eiste pou zeite me daneika oxi emeis.
Tis pio poles katatheseis oi Alvanoi tis exoun pleon stis ellhnikes trapezes.
Esy na pouliseis kai na agoraseis???opa re ...poula ton kwlo sou na agoraseis neskafe...mexri ekei eisai.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian egw proswpika ne ...se pulaw ke se agorazw ke malista exw 30 albanus ke duleyun sto ergostasio tu papu mu ala ton psinw na parei pakistanus giati poli aera pirate
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
xaxaaaa
ela alekoooo....posous 30.
parte kanenan ellhna more giati einai krima
esy prosopika se kanena noiki tha meneis kai tha xrostaei o pateras sou 4 daneia...kouragio
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian Not really. Collonel Psarros and his rebel force called EDES fought against about 10000 Nazi and Albans (want to be called Chamerians) under Paramythia. It was the only time during WW2 that took place a tactical battle between Nazi forces and rebels. The rebels won the battle. Nazi retreated and turned to east but Albanians wounded ego during the retreat passed through Paramythia and torment and slaughtered about 700 non-combatant people. Man woman children priests even creepled.
meraclees 1 year ago
@meraclees
I have some videos in my channel.Take a look.It will help you
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian No! Thank you.
meraclees 1 year ago
@TheChamerian oh by the way!!!!! nice helmet in your profile picture...it's albanian too? or do you think that you are macedonian like they think the Fyromian pigs?
take care and search it more from where you came from
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Lol
It is just a helmet.No one knows the past.
Maybe fyromians are not Macedonians but also the greeks are not.
I have done my search and I know what I am .....do you?
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian for you my friend is just a helmet,maybe you dont remember your past but i do...for me is my ancestors helmet
...and for sure fyromians,albanians and greeks were not macedonians ...Hellenes were so dont call me grek call me ΕΛΛΗΝΑ / HELLENE
you are done? so were are you coming from? for my opinion you are mixed with turks that's why you take they'r religion,TOSKS have Hellenic blood, and generaly you have no common with illirians or pelasgians . that's all.
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Ancesors....your ancesors?
In another comment you wrote you are Arvanite ,now you are a Hellene..lol.
Before 1821 you Hellenes called yourselves Romios , after 1821 someone from Europe told you that you must say you are Hellenes.
I can call you what ever you like....even EL or Eluhim...but are you?
I am from Epirus ,I am Chamerian from Chameria.
Half of greece became mouslims after the turks but you send them in Turkey...Dont forget Tourkokrites.
I am Tosk,we Chamerians are Tosk ..
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian Fisika dikoi mu,oi arvanites itan pada elliniko filo oso kian den 9es na to pistepsis esy ke RUM mas apokalusan oi turkoi apo to rwmios pu itan apo to vizadio.I ellada sto vizadio itan mia ftwxi eparxia apla pu i aftokratoria meta tin prwti ptwsi ekselinistike jayto legan tus eaytus tus RWMAIOUS ke vgike to romios...eisai apo ipiro k egw ama mu kapnisei ,opws esena , se lew ELLINA gt einai ellinika ta edafoi ayta k as min eisai...turkokrites itan TURKOI APOIKOI (sinexizetai)
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Ksekinas lathos kai grafeis pragmata pou den stekoun istorika.
Romioi legotan oloi oi xristianoi katikoi tis Othomanikis Autokratorias(anoikse ena leksiko)
Oi tourkoi tous Arvanites tous legane Arnaout(mantepse pious alous legane etsi)
I Ipiros exei vora kai noto ...opote den einai oli ellada(pali lathos)
Oi tourkokrites itan ntopioi kritikoi pou apodextikan ton mouamethanismo akoma kai simera milane mono kritika (megali ntropi gia tin ellada auto pou tous ekane)
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian paroti eimai istorikos ..parakatw...
loipon agramate,oi byzadinoi 9ewrudan rwmaioi eksu ke i anatoliki romaiki aytokratoria pu san agramatos albanos pu eisai to 9ewreis oti itan ena me tin ellada .apo tin prwti alwsi ke meta pire i aytokratoria elliniko xaraktira ke AFU katakti9ike apo tus o9wmanus ,aytoi sinexisan na mas lene ROMIOUS. gege?
gt idia glwssa milame stin ipiro ke kaneis la9os...ELLADA = IPIROS
otan milas ja kriti pline to stoma su prwta,den sas miasane
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Esy Istorikos....xxaxaa
Alo rwmaioi kai alo romios asxete....kai eisai toso asxetos pou oute kan exeis eidea ti sou grafw.
edw den exeis eidea ti ginete sto xwrio sou kai thes na miliseis gia ipiro kai gia kriti.ante kane kanena kyliako .....mpouxesa
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian vre aide twra trava voskise kana provato ke rikstu kana putso pu 9a me peis emena agramato xwriati esy alvane pu prin kana 2 dekaeties otan epefte poli pina trwgate tus papudes sas esy den xabariazeis ti su grafw Rwmaios itan o byzantinos mexri to 1204 meta ellinopoih9ike to byzadio ala proekipse oi turkoi na sinexizun na mas lene rwmius H RUM apo to anatoliki rwmaiki aytokratoria ala den se afinun ta provata na katalaveis
ps.esena ke alus 10 vazw katw ama gustarw tsutseki
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Prin re asxete egrapse ALWSI....twra les alla.
Vlepw exoume nevrakia,min stenaxwriese tha sou perasei 9 meres krataei.
Emena kai alous deka...opa eisai kalos.
To kaneis apo mikros fenete .
Na sou pw.... frentoutsino pineis?
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian to kanw apo mikros ama vlepw eksipnus la9rometanastes san esena ma mu pulane fumara..ke den neyriasa...einai xara mu na se ma9enw ke kati voske
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@TheChamerian Turkoxwrites itan TURKOI apoikoi opws Turkoi yparxun ke stin kipro...ESEIS ginate musulmanoi oloi mazi,tus upiretisate enadiwn mas ke twra 9elete ke ta resta? kai ama eisai tosk oi tosk na ksereis exun elliniko aima 9es na to katalaveis? kalws...apla an ksereis den eimai tixaios opws to 99% aytwn edw mesa kserw poli kala tin istoria mu ke den perimenw apo sena na mu tin ma9eis...ma9e tin diki su kalitera gt an krinw apo tin arxaioelliniki perikefalaia...den mas ta les kala
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Tourkoi yparxoun kai sti ksanthi ,alla alo tourkos kai alo ellhnas mousoulmanos.ekei mperdeveste eseis.Pws geiname mousoulmanoi oloi mazi enw eimaste kai katholikoi kai orthodoksoi?
Mou fenese oti eisai poly asxetos oxi apla enas tyxaios...den exeis grapsei tipota mexri stigmis pou na mporeis na to ypostirikseis.
Sto video milame gia tous souliotes ,arketo prosfato kai den ksereis pou pane ta tesera kai thes na miliseis kai gia arxaioellhniki perikefalaia, pou den einai i syngekrimeni
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian ax,ayto to alvaniko su koblex...den yparxun ellines mwame9anoi stin 9raki MONO turkoi mwame9anoi ksekwla oi ellines kratisan tin 9riskeia tus 400 xronia sklavias ke epanastatisan enw eseis itastan oi putanitses twn turkwn mexri tus valkanikus polemun vre zwon pu 9a mu peis oti eimai ke asxetos pu ama den ftaname stin 9esaloniki akoma turkia 9a isastan eSi na xerese ton lao su ton pulimeno misoi ka9olikoi,or9odoksoi ke mwame9anoi iste...MONO O VUDAS SAS LIPEI AXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAX
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC Einai tourkoi?Giati alla leei to ellhniko kratos...ta ksereis kalytera esy malon.
Tote pou kataktisate ti thesaloniki les kai skotosate tous ntopious makedones...erxonte pali omws kai tha pane pisw sto lazistan oi psomiadides.
Den eisai asxetos .....giati kai auto exei orio...esy xazo prepei na eisai.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian ine turkoi pu exun minei prin apo tus valkanikus polemus ke tus leme pomakus
krima pu prolave ke den mas afise o Hitler na proxwrisume mexri oli tin albania to 1940 na sas ksekwliazame edelws ala...den peirazei...next time
loipon...turkalvane...parte fora...eseis ke aytoi ...ke opoioi aloi...ke klaste mas ta arxidia...den katalavenete oti eseis iste se kindino para emeis? mia klania iste ja mas ti nomizete .. i nomizeis 9a parete tin voria makedonia ...ja tus ellines einai
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Pomakoi i Tourkoi?giati asxette einai diaforetikes ethnotites...alla ti sou lew .
Kai akoma zitate ta kokala twn stratiotwn pisw.Kai den polemousate me tous Alvanous me tous Italous polemousate vlaka.
Den xreiazete tipota...mia volta Athina to vrady kai mono mavrous vlepeis...ellhnes e
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian Turkiko filo einai oi pomakoi 1on
2on tus voi9usate tus italus vromozwo min to arnise ke axristoi stin duleia ke axristoi ston polemo iste Alvane e alvane
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@TheChamerian egw pisteyw eseis oi alvanoi iste arketa eksipnoi ala den exete kanei kati diko sas to aksiologo opote zileyetai tus alus politismus...epeisis pisteuw den 9a sikwnes kefali na peis tin ipiro albaniki an den se voi9use i ameriki...pote den 9a to ekanes ayto...exw akusei kati ja UCC ke kserw ti simainei den eimai vlakas,kserw pu to pate...min to paratravate poli to skini omws..i ELLADA den einai servia...exw paei eidikes dinameis sta 18 mu kiolas ke enimeronomai ... filiki sizitisi
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Kai egw pistevw oti eseis oi legomenoi neoellhnes eiste vlakes.Kamaronete gia ton arxaio politismo twn ellhnwn kai poulate souflakia kai mpouzoukia(tourkika)
akoma kai tous topous latrias twn arxaiwn katastrepsate gia ti nea sas thriskia ..
To oti peiges eidikes dynameis den exei kamia sxesi(ta pio kompleksika atoma pane ekei)
Egw den exw idea ti einai to UCC kai den me endiaferei,ta synora den allazoun.
Me endiaferei i alhtheia
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian tulaxiston kserume pioi imastan KAI PIOI 9A KSANAGINUME ke stin teliki NE ta suvlakia ta pirame apo tus turkus omws eixame ta arxidia ston polemo tu 1920 ke apixame liga xiliometra apo tin AGIRA enw eseis ute kratos den eixate kanate metaneies ston alax san tis pulimenes putanes
sto eipa asxete,oi byzadinoi ta katestrepsan oxi oi ellines
UCC einai to en dinamei adartiko ja tin CAMERIA... tromara sas
prwta piga strato meta ja spudes ala pu na to skefteis stin oikodomi pu eisai
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Meta omws giati trexate san lagoi.....
kai ase ta palia ...koita simera sto aigeo pou kathe mera ftanoun sto sounio oi tourkoi kai eseis kotes.
Kai meta tous vyzantinous eseis ti kanate?
An ypeirxe Ucc tha tin eixame parei tin Cameria ..tetioi flwroi pou eiste.
Kai den emenes strato ,san Epop...giati tipota den emathes.
Pantos einai gegonos oti opoios den paei kala sta gramata ton stelnoun gia texni i tou lene na paei fantaros.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian giati kaname la9os stratigiki enw eprepe na parume tin kwstadinupoli ... ke emeis petame panw apo smirni den leei kati ayto :)
milas me arxidia twn alwn xaraktiristikotatos kobleksikos alvanakos ,ja pes o re,eseis me ti petate panw apo tin ipiro? me xartaetus i ftiaxnete saites? aaxaxax
mikre ,epeidi sti sizitisi arxizeis ke les mlkies,ama ipirxe UCC 9a itan enas logos meta apo mines na klete ke ja ta tirana oxi mono ja tin ipiro asto su lew den to'xeis..trava oikodomi
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Opa na tos kai o stratigos.
Petate me olympic ? otan pate san touristes na afeisete ta ligasta evro pou sas apomeinan?
Den petame tin patame....xiliades eimaste .
Sta tirana tha pate metanastes se ligo me ti peina pou exei na pesei stin ellada.
Eytixws den vlepoun poloi to video kai den tha gineis rezili....ante tyxairakia
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian esy ginesai rezili ke den to exeis katalavei vlakako tosi wra ..me ta F16 tus skizume ton kwlo opote kanun paraviasi ke benume k emeis ke kanun paraviaseis ala pu na ta ksereis esy ayta afu exete stin albaniki aeroporia mono xartaetus ke tus petate to pasxa AXAXAXAXAXAX
otan pane ellines sta tirana metanastes...stile mu sto kinito malaka
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
2 f16 sas reiksane to kalokairi...kai exoun ta triplasia apo sas.
eidi exete arxisei na pate tourkia gia douleia
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian ke emeis tus rixnume ta 10plasia mono pu den to lene 1on,
exun ta triplasia omws exume kaliteris texnologias apo aytus ke apeira nisia me piravlus 2on,ke 3on sinexizeis na kseftilizeis tin idi kseftilismeni ratsa su me to na milas me ta arxidia twn alwn...su eipa...i turkia den exei @@dia na mas kanei tipota ala ti lew...k eseis turkospermata iste ara ute eseis den exete @@dia jayto...arakse stin oikodomi pu duleueis ke ase ta adrilikia apo to pc Youtube Hero
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC Kai tha sas kovane ta arxidia an kanate kati tetio.
esy ti pas ti kouventa ekei den ti paw egw ...egw apla apantaw kai i ratsa mou mono me sfentones sas stelnei pisw sto lazistan giati eiste floria.
vges eksw kai des kati fatses pou exete...les kai eiste tourkoi apo tha vathi tis tourkias.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian KE aytoi KE eseis mas klanete ta arxidia mono sto youtube kanete ton polemo etsi einai milaw me ali9ina stoixeia...apo to 1970 exun 3plasies apoleies se aeroskafoi jati einai asxetoi pilotoi poli apla
esy tin pas ekei tin sizitisi ala ayto to eidame to 1821,to 1913,to 1940 poso floria eimaste...ase eisai bukomenos ke ksereis me ti...
A ke pata - albanian faces - ligo sto youtube na su li9ei i aporeia epidi den exeis agorasei akoma ka9refti stin vila pu meneis xaxaxax mogole
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Twra milame i klanoume?
min les asxetiles giati katantas kai varetos ,eipame eisai vlakas alla exei kai oria i vlakeia.
to 21 meta apo 400xronia gamisi?to 13 me poious polemises?
to 40 me poious polemises pali?
Ase re mouxesa thes na miliseis kai gia fatses...tamtako e tamtako.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian ap oti fenetai klaneis k ayto fenetai apo ta 'facts' pu mu dineis...su eipa tis apoleies apo to 70' ke meta ke oti stratiwtika den exete elpida k esy les ''eipame eisai vlakas alla exei kai oria i vlakeia.'' .....ooookkkaaayyy
ne lesk ne githmon te PO axaxax se duleyw apo tin arxi tis sizitisis ala ise toso ''eksipnos'' pu....xaxax katalaves
ne to 21' ke sas gamisame to 13 tin ipiro ke den kanate tipota ke to 40 esas ke tus italous pali putsa ...pio meta o zervas ;)
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Pia facts edwses re asxeto?epeidi to egrapses einai kai facts ...facts einai otan yparxoun stixeis na stirikseis kati pou les kai esy den egrapses giati apla den yparxoun.
Ton eauto sou douleveis apo ti mera pou ton katalaves, den eisai aksios na doulepseis alo atomo.Pote stous polemous pou anafereis den simetixe i Alvania.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian einai facts ke den 9es na to paradextis...
esena duleuw amorfote pu sinexizeis na min paradexese oti i 'fili' su (min xesw) einai prodotes
DaimonaC 1 year ago
@DaimonaC
Katantises kourastikos me tis malakies sou.
Den eisai aksios na doulepseis kanenan ,para mono ton eauto sou.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@TheChamerian k egw vare9ika mias ke eisai kefali agiristo .
koita, sovara twra...tin istoria pote kaneis den 9a tin ma9ei opws etsi akrivws egine...ute egw ute esy..kapoioi mas tin dinun na tin ma9enume opws 9elun aftoi...pisteyw na simfwneis se afto...tin kuveda tin epiasa ja na ma9w ti skeptesai k opws vlepeis se anagasa na piaseis ola ta 9emata...tespa..ok you know
DaimonaC 1 year ago