NH: Concord open carry incident 12/28/08

[YllwFvrPB]

In pa its a state wide permit, and is valid no matter where you go or move. It is not required to change the address on your permit at all. I had this verified by my former county sherrif and my new sheriff as well as local PD. Then when pulled over a townie hassled me because I have to change it within X amount of days or its invalid. He wasnt sure of the time limit. XD They sometimes have no idea how to handle it. Glad it went your way dewbie

[dmgoddard]

Don't ask the cops "what RSA" -- they don't need to know.

*DO* ask them if they are asking, or ordering, you, every single time they ask you to do something.

*DO* decline to show identification (just give your name and city of residence)

*DO* ask if you are being detained and if you are free to go.

Repeat the above 3 DO's until they let you go, or arrest you. If they arrest, ask for a lawyer and say NOTHING!!! until you have one

[dewbie42]

Yeah, most everything I always told myself to do/say seemed to have disappeared when they showed up and had 3 of them and my back was against a bridge with a big fall. I should have been questioning them more (like what's illegal about carrying two pistols? and Am I free to go?)

[dmgoddard]

Yeah. We *really* should set up some role-playing at Liberty Forum or PorcFest!

[dewbie42]

That would be pretty sweet, though still not 100% unless you got people dressed as real cops to come in and try to intimidate people.

[TEBON]

good job doobie!

[rataMacue22]

My understanding of the RSA is that you have to notify the chief of police of the town in which you move to that you have a pistol permit. I did this recently but have not received any reply.

After hearing this call I am under the impression that when you move you're supposed to get a new updated permit. Is this true?

[dewbie42]

I called them and they said, "Uh ok; that's fine, just bring in the renewal form when it's time to renew."

RSA 159-6b states you are supposed to inform the new issuing authority in writing. No time frame or consequences; also states that the license is still valid through the expiration date.

But I think it's just someone telling me I should continue to open carry; except in the car cuz it's a major safety hazard to (un)load when I get in/out of the car.

[rataMacue22]

OK, that's what I thought. Thanks.

[dewbie42]

I need to get out of my old state mentality and call it a pistol license or a concealed carry license.

I made it home without incident and looked up the RSA regarding me having to update my addr, and it had no time limit nor consequences.

I was also told to hang up the phone and when I turned around (they were behind me) I told him I was recording and he told me to turn it off.

[Weapon01]

If you have a Right to bear arms, why would you need permission to begin with?

Cops really need to be educated about these things.

[UcanbeGOD]

You make sense. I guess having to get

a permit is pretty dumb when you think about it.

[dewbie42]

I have the Right to bear them as long as they are openly carried. We have to ask for permission and pay $10 (for four years) to get the Right to concealed carry.

[feeknocks]

haha that's bull shit

[dewbie42]

Which? Having to pay $10 to conceal carry? I couldn't agree more. If I'm not in jail I should be able to conceal carry or open carry anywhere within the United States of America.

[feeknocks]

anywhere except somebody's home of course lol

[P3rf3ctStorm]

Are these cops morons? Haven't they heard of DC v. Heller yet? It's a second amendment INDIVIDUAL RIGHT to keep and bear arms, NOT a privilege. Why do you need "permission" to exercise an individual Right? Even though SCOTUS has so ruled earlier this year, and it's the Law of the Land we're talking about here, it seems the state, counties, and municipalities just simply don't "get it". They all need to start getting it.

[dewbie42]

They were as good as they could be about it. They (claimed they) were stopping me more because someone called in and they had to investigate and they just need to know if I'm legal to carry the pistol, To paraphrase: that I don't have a restraining order against me and that I'm not a felon.