sure you could its just gonna reak hell on the slide. im sure if you drilled the inside of the barrel to the lenth of the 9x19 and put in one hell of a recoil spring it could be done. but that still leaves the magazine problem....
Crap, at the moment the bullet dimensions of the two escape me but yes the mak is a larger diameter round. The question I will raise is don't you know there are people who would gladly take in your 63 and give it a good home? Feed it the right ammo it needs to stay strong? Treat it with the proper respect it deserves until it has to be tossed over a bridge in the middle of the night? Have some respect.
As stated from previous posts, the reason you can "get away" with this is that both the case and bullet diameter of the 9x19 is actually SMALLER then the 9x18. That 9x19 also creates roughly 75% more pressure when fired going WAY over SAAMI specs. Not a good idea.
if somebody does this and gets injured you idiots are in jail or sued because you give information knowing that it is dangerous and did not correct it, have a dumb day.
you can hear the difference in the 2 shots. it cuz of retards like this schmuck that dont teach proper gun safety to their kids is why their is a anti gun lobby here in tyranny land.. oops i meant to say America. ONLY USE THE CORRECT AMMO FOR YOUR GUN ONLY. god damn people are fucking dumb
dejen de calificar negativo muchos teniamos esta duda y la verdad que bueno que se arriesgo para sacarnos de ella, se podra disparar balas .380 en una makarov?
What if I want to do the opposite and put a 9X18 in a gun chambered for 9X19? I would assume this would be safe as the 9X18 is a less powerful round than the 9X19?
yeah and you could probably hit the 9mm with a hammer and it might not blow your hand off...Damn fool! You watch,,, this guy will be on that show 1000 ways to die LOL!!!
In a dire emergency that might be feasible but it's a good way to blow the gun up as well as injure the shooter and bystanders. (Picture the slide embedded in your face!!!!!!)
Highly irresponsible though to show this on YouTube...just my opinion!
that pistol is shooting 50% over pressure must be pretty strong, I like mine. For everybody that says these are junk you just saw it. It should have come apart. Oh yea Browning, SW, Colt, Walther and many more make aluminum alloy frames. But these guys are DOPES!
@csmybuttt its called the 9mm browning long and its case length is 20 so its a 9*20 but this rounds production stopped a long time ago , and i have the gun that this round was made for its called the fn1903 it has a othman stamp on it , go google it :)
Well, it's good to know that if I run out of 9x18 (last resort caliber anyways) that I can pick up 9x19 if my life is on the line. Think about it, don't shoot it unless you will die if you don't. It is good information though although he should have given some kind of disclaimer as to the technical aspect of it.
It works, tried it in a CZ-82. The entire case head is supported so it won't separate or blow up. The grove dia is so oversized that excess pressure is all vented with the blow-by and actually the 124gr NATO rounds I used recoiled less than with correct ammo. And with absolutely no harm to the firearm. The Russians considered this in the design. If y'all gonna get pissy and bitch make sure ya know what the fuck ur talking about geez. Buncha pussies!!! lol
For anyone who doesn't understand... This dumb ass for putting a high pressure round that is not even the right bore diameter in my gun, which is not rated for such high pressure, fails to battery leaving exposed brass and unsupported brass for a case rupture. This guy is asking for an injury. I would like to see him try that with a 9mm nato loaded round. I doubt it will have a pretty ending. I feel bad for his PA-63 It never did anything to deserve this.
lol that extractor is going to become its own projectile sometime, and it will harm... NEVER USE A CALIBER THAT IS NOT NAMED ON THE GUN! If you do your putting your self and others around you at risk so leave the stupidity at home or die it's your choice......
Hey, in a pinch why not? I'm sure this was considered in the 9x18's design. In war it would be a good thing to be able to use your opponent's ammo without them being able to use yours.
No the Makarov was not designed with the thought of using 9mm parabellum in a pinch.
The only reason this douchebag got away with it is the Makarov is .364 cal and the .355 cal 9mm had less resistance slipping through the oversize barrel. The 9X19 operates at almost twice the 9X18 pressure.
this is a fraud, a trick. or else very, very lucky. most likely it is just faked with editing software, or else it could possibly (not likely) be a hand-loaded 9x19 cartridge, to keep 9x18 pressure. even then the case would most likely split.
the issue of firing 9x17 (.380 ACP) in a 9x18 firearm is a much more interesting one; it's perfectly safe, but will wreck your barrel quick.
He probbly got away with it because the Makarov is .364 cal, the .355 bullet o the 9x19 went through the oversized barrel without developing as much pressure as normal.
Americans! I'm a hungarian, 1 from the other 10.000.000! We made a PA pistols! We made first generation semi-automatic weapons! You DON'T KNOW, we are hate an Austriaan, german, and Russian leaders! 1848: Liberation war! Austria and Russian Empire wins! 1956, yes '56:Liberatin war! The soviet union kill we soldiers, when the USA says: We are go, and help you! ( FUCK ) ... The PA is a best! The End?
9mm Luger= 34K psi or so average. 9MM Makarov= 23K psi or so. Eventually, that chamber's going to go and with Hungarian alloys, I'd bet sooner rather than later.
@Jacko180589 The gun could explode, and take the shooters hand with it. Like as not the only thing that saved him was the fact that Mak bullets are .363 around and 9x19 are .355, the extra room allows some of the gas to escape lowering the pressure, but eventually the chamber will fail.
@StSimonMartyr He sounds very Northern to me. Not a single "hey, yall" came out of his mouth. Apparently Darwinism applies to northerners equally. Besides, the rednecks I know don't chamber the wrong caliber in any gun, we apparently know something this goof doesn't. Maybe he should fire a few .357's mags in a .38 special. Hey, they'll fit. Or .44 mags in a .44 special, it's a little tight but hey, no problem, right up until it blows up and takes your hand off. Moron.
@shadeshiest22 Failure to battery is saying the action failed to close completely. As such he is firing a gun not safely closed. It is only matter of time until the gun is damaged and if he does this enough, when the gun blows apart, so will he.
The PA-63 is a very nice and accurate gun (and not a "cheap knockoff" as some people call it). I own one and it's one of my favorite handguns. However, it is an aluminum-framed gun. Putting a 9x19 round through a 9x18 handgun is stupid enough as it is. Putting it through one with an aluminum frame is downright retarded. Taken care of, the PA-63 is one of the nicest and most pleasant 9x18 guns to shoot. Abusing it like this is a waste.
Thats not a makarov. That is a cheap ass aluminum framed 9x18 nock off of a walther pp in the mak caliber that will fire out of battery. Dangerous, stupid and to anyone who knows this guy... smack him on the back of his head for making gunowners look stupid. Better yet tell him to put a 454 casull in a taurus judge (yep it'll fit) stand back and watch him lose a hand.
@booyalakasha1 And then watch the Taurus fanboys come out of the woodwork claiming that "taurus is teh bestest gat evu!R!" and start crying foul over the video being made so their guns look bad...
keep doing that, one of two things will happen! A you will wallow out your seat till the spec Makarov ammo wont function properly OR B you will have a catastrophic failure due to higher pressures from the Luger .
This is NOT a .22 where you can put shorts longs and long rifles in the tube
This video should be pulled this idiot is doing some dangerous shit here, the only reason he got away with it is the makarov barrel is .364 cal, the 9mm luger cartridge is .355 diameter. Pressure of the 9X19 is almost twice what the makarov is designed for.
There's an idea. Instead of .357 SIG, all the dumbass in the video needs to do is chamber up a load ramped up to Russian AP spec (with out the AP bullet, of course, just the powder charge) and see what happens. The problem will solve itself.
The only reason he can get away with this is that the pressure escapes past the bullet in the barrel makeing the pressure's the sam as the 9x18. also there is no way this would blow up. the pressure between the 9x19 and the 9x18 is a meer 100+ psi makarovs can handle much higher then what cheap winchester 9mm puts out. and to rest of YOU fudd armchair commandos out there do some research befor making such ignorent comments. Thank you and have a splended night to all.
@stg58bravo You may want to take your own advice, pal. Max pressure for the 9x18 Makarov is 23,206 psi (looked up on Wiki and confirmed by the CIP). Standard operating pressure for 9x19 Parabellum is 35,000 psi, 38,500 psi for +p loads, and Russian AP loads are very likely to be above 40,000 psi.
@RaderizDorret You CAN (trepidation to even mention this) use .380 (9x17mm) it has an even lower threshold than the MAK, completely agree this guy is an idiot putting a Luger in the pipe!!!
What a dumbass. The 9x19 has nearly TWICE the pressure of the 9x18. The PA-63 does NOT have a barrel locking device which makes this even more dangerous. And since they can fire the piece of shit out of battery, they have a weapon that is faulty at best. The only way they got away with this is that 9x19 is a .355 bullet and 9x18 is a .36 bullet. This fucktard needs to do us all a favor and try chambering and firing a 357 SIG in that pistol to rid us of his stupidity.
WOW!, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA! You may get away with it for a few shots but no pistol was ever designed to fire out of battery. Case ruptures to complete weapon destruction are all potential results of doing this. Perhaps the only time I'd perform this would be in a wartime situation where my enemy is gonna kill me otherwise.
My guess is that some of the pressure is escaping ahead of the round due to the difference in size (9mm Makarov is slightly larger than 9mm Luger).
9x 17 chamber pressure is about 18k psi. 9x18 runs about 20k psi. 9x19 is about 35k psi, it was designed for gas operated ejection. If I were to be that reckless, I'd use a CZ82 with a heavy Wolff slide spring. 9x18 was designed to be the highest chamber pressure a simple blowback design could handle. That's definitely something I would only do if I was already expecting to die I didn't. .380 in a 9-Mak is probably safe, you just might get some operating failures from lack of pressure.
Yeah tried this in a cz-82 (one time as a test) tested 9x17, 9x18, and 9x19. all worked. Wouldn't ever try it in a PA-63 because of the Aluminum frame... might explode.
looks like an excellent way to eat the slide. With no recoil spring, the Makarovs use the weight of the slide to absorb the recoil. 9*18 is about the max it can handle. Sure, you may get away with it for a few shots due to over engineering, but you better be ready when it fails.
"For anyone who doesn't understand". That's how the video starts out. That's got to be on par with "here, hold my beer and watch this". Wow, you've really proved your point....
No offense, but this is one of the more idiotic things I've ever seen done with a handgun.
I've always been told and lived by never put in a gun anything but what it says on the barrel....I'd never take a chance of an accident happening...You can always buy more 9x18 but you can't replace your hand or worse, your life...
I think the reason the blow-back action didn't open too soon (and cause a burst case) was the 9x19mm round with an exactly 9.00mm diameter bullet, while this gun has a barrel to fire the 9x18mm round with a precisely 9.27mm wide bullet.
That 0.27mm "gap" could be enough for a significant amount of gas from the burning powder to leak around the bullet, reducing the chamber pressure to less than 9x19mm would normally give. Likely terrible accuracy and of course still a terrible idea.
DO NOT DO THIS!! ESP WITH THE PA_63. this is the WORST pistol to try this on because it has an aluminum frame.The slide is likely to fly off into your face, causing very serious injuries or death. nothing on the gun is rated for such a large increase in pressure. plus, remember these are old , surplus guns.
if you insist on doing this, at least use a steel framed model.
there are easier and less painful ways to remove yourself from the gene pool.
if it fails to battery some of the pressure blows out the side, Russians are known to make weapons to chamber enemy rounds single shot in emergency situations (Mortars especially.)
If you keep that up for very long you may not have a face left. 9x18 operates at a pressure of around 24,000 PSI, 9x19 operates at 33,000. The PA 63 simply was not designed to handle those pressures.
Sorry gang,....... This guy knows what he's talking about. He's showing that a 9x19mm "CAN" be fired in a gat chambered for a 9x18mm. He just doesn't do it as SOP!
Tragically today a man was killed while firing his handgun, the fatal wound was issued by the slide of his PA-63 makarov handgun somehow he shattered the frame causing the slide to lodge in his cranium. This is just ignorant bro, so much could go wrong! why would this guy do such a thing?
Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD. If the guy in the video wore a red cape and jumped off a building, it wouldn't make him Superman.
The 9x19 has much higher pressures than the 9x18 and almost double the pressure of a 9x17 (.380).
sorry im new at this....can i shoot a 380 pistol with a 9mm round??? a 380 round is 9x17mm and the 9mm round is 9x19mm, so if they are both 9mms one is a bit longer than the other.......can it be done or in viceversa?9mm gun shot with a 380 round?bear with me im new at this.
Looking through the comments and just noticing that nobody has said anything nice about the video. So the consensus is this guy is an assclown? Also, I dont think I would shoot anything other than a 9x18 in a 9x18 pistol. That is why they stamp the caliber on the barrel.
@NomNoF There are Russian PMs, East German PMs, Bulgarian PMs and Chinese PMs. The East Germans are the best ones, followed by the Bulgarians, Russians and then the Chinese. A PM Makarov from either of those countries will serve one well. I have an East German myself, made in 1961.
@teksizTHC Thats because this idiot is the only one I know of who is trying this... I would like to see him put a 124 grain +P sub gun rated 9x19mm round through that and see what happens...
woa...thats about the dumbest thing I've ever seen...do that to many times and pieces of that pistol will permanently become part of the nub that used to be your hand...
kinda cool but what he's not thinking about is the difference in pressure. he can get away with a 9mm Para fired here and there but if you were to do it continuously, you'd eventually have the fucking thing blow up in your face
9x19 (9mm)and 9x18(.380) have different standard load bullet diameters. They function but accuracy will suffer a lot. 9x18 makarov is .365, 9x19 is .355 or .356, 9x18(.380) is JUST .355. in A 9mm gun you can shoot .355, .356, and .357 bullets. In a .380 ACP its very not wise to shoot anything but .355 diameter bullets. Will if function, yes. The 9x18 makarov is not compatible with 9mm or .308acp!
sure you could its just gonna reak hell on the slide. im sure if you drilled the inside of the barrel to the lenth of the 9x19 and put in one hell of a recoil spring it could be done. but that still leaves the magazine problem....
yoyopiemonk 1 week ago
Crap, at the moment the bullet dimensions of the two escape me but yes the mak is a larger diameter round. The question I will raise is don't you know there are people who would gladly take in your 63 and give it a good home? Feed it the right ammo it needs to stay strong? Treat it with the proper respect it deserves until it has to be tossed over a bridge in the middle of the night? Have some respect.
7millimauser 3 weeks ago
Bad mojo!
talon115 3 weeks ago
As stated from previous posts, the reason you can "get away" with this is that both the case and bullet diameter of the 9x19 is actually SMALLER then the 9x18. That 9x19 also creates roughly 75% more pressure when fired going WAY over SAAMI specs. Not a good idea.
Swagman00 1 month ago
"no problem"
Can't say that until we see the casing. But hey, it fired, and satisfied my curiosity about this.
mr220v 1 month ago
if somebody does this and gets injured you idiots are in jail or sued because you give information knowing that it is dangerous and did not correct it, have a dumb day.
a9mmauto 1 month ago
@a9mmauto oh shut up.
LeviMonte 1 month ago
you can hear the difference in the 2 shots. it cuz of retards like this schmuck that dont teach proper gun safety to their kids is why their is a anti gun lobby here in tyranny land.. oops i meant to say America. ONLY USE THE CORRECT AMMO FOR YOUR GUN ONLY. god damn people are fucking dumb
sicsempertyrannis187 1 month ago
dejen de calificar negativo muchos teniamos esta duda y la verdad que bueno que se arriesgo para sacarnos de ella, se podra disparar balas .380 en una makarov?
ddhydigc 2 months ago
@gorak143 please don't do that...that would cause an over-pressure issue, for you would be shoving a .363 dia slug into a .355 hole lol
nater9mm 2 months ago
What if I want to do the opposite and put a 9X18 in a gun chambered for 9X19? I would assume this would be safe as the 9X18 is a less powerful round than the 9X19?
gorak142 2 months ago
yeah and you could probably hit the 9mm with a hammer and it might not blow your hand off...Damn fool! You watch,,, this guy will be on that show 1000 ways to die LOL!!!
snuffygr 2 months ago
@snuffygr you're just jealous.
SupremeAmerican 2 months ago
In a dire emergency that might be feasible but it's a good way to blow the gun up as well as injure the shooter and bystanders. (Picture the slide embedded in your face!!!!!!)
Highly irresponsible though to show this on YouTube...just my opinion!
toddy2519 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@toddy2519 you're just jealous.
SupremeAmerican 2 months ago
That is a PA-63 not a Makarov pistol...
2damaxmr2 4 months ago
@2damaxmr2 you're just jealous.
SupremeAmerican 2 months ago
Just can't put em in the same mayg.
PervyPartisan 4 months ago
that pistol is shooting 50% over pressure must be pretty strong, I like mine. For everybody that says these are junk you just saw it. It should have come apart. Oh yea Browning, SW, Colt, Walther and many more make aluminum alloy frames. But these guys are DOPES!
There are no lugs its a blowback design.
a9mmauto 4 months ago
@a9mmauto mines more reliable than my glock
SupremeAmerican 2 months ago
veerrry interesting, thanks for sharing
goodnightChesty1775 4 months ago
shooting a gun when it is not fully in battery can damage the locking lugs. but cool vid tho.
kumadog286 4 months ago
quiet your bitching guys, he was just making a point.
MrM4man 4 months ago 3
thats bad for the gun
ipwnu19 4 months ago
i put a 9*19 in a 9*20 gun it shot fine
GSSRT8 4 months ago
@GSSRT8 What is this 9x20 gun you speak of? I'm very curious as to what mythical shoots this non-existent 9x20mm cartridge.
csmybuttt 4 months ago
@csmybuttt its called the 9mm browning long and its case length is 20 so its a 9*20 but this rounds production stopped a long time ago , and i have the gun that this round was made for its called the fn1903 it has a othman stamp on it , go google it :)
GSSRT8 4 months ago
@GSSRT8 Oh, you meant some obscure and obsolete cartridge; that's why.
csmybuttt 4 months ago
Well, it's good to know that if I run out of 9x18 (last resort caliber anyways) that I can pick up 9x19 if my life is on the line. Think about it, don't shoot it unless you will die if you don't. It is good information though although he should have given some kind of disclaimer as to the technical aspect of it.
keithmnovak 4 months ago
It works, tried it in a CZ-82. The entire case head is supported so it won't separate or blow up. The grove dia is so oversized that excess pressure is all vented with the blow-by and actually the 124gr NATO rounds I used recoiled less than with correct ammo. And with absolutely no harm to the firearm. The Russians considered this in the design. If y'all gonna get pissy and bitch make sure ya know what the fuck ur talking about geez. Buncha pussies!!! lol
nater9mm 5 months ago
For anyone who doesn't understand... This dumb ass for putting a high pressure round that is not even the right bore diameter in my gun, which is not rated for such high pressure, fails to battery leaving exposed brass and unsupported brass for a case rupture. This guy is asking for an injury. I would like to see him try that with a 9mm nato loaded round. I doubt it will have a pretty ending. I feel bad for his PA-63 It never did anything to deserve this.
Dietzeeeee 5 months ago
An organ donor in the making...
mktchi 5 months ago
just because i am able to put my dick an VD infested pussy doesnt mean i should
joeratti 5 months ago 3
"Fails to battery" is some kind of subtle hint if you ask me.
InGratiaDei 6 months ago
I would like to see what happens when he puts a 124 grain +P+ 9x19mm in that gun. It wouldn't be pretty.
Dietzeeeee 6 months ago
Where I'm from, we would call him a DUMB...... FUCK.
CPHannigan 6 months ago
lol that extractor is going to become its own projectile sometime, and it will harm... NEVER USE A CALIBER THAT IS NOT NAMED ON THE GUN! If you do your putting your self and others around you at risk so leave the stupidity at home or die it's your choice......
gunfuego 7 months ago
@blahdlobify
You ever consider maybe this is why they chose a larger grove dia? Almost double the pressure ain't shit when it's all blow-by.
nater9mm 7 months ago
Darwin price required.
Gangster88232 7 months ago
He'll feel real smart when the added stress makes the gun explode some day.
mst3k4evur 7 months ago
AND so Wat?????
DAP915 7 months ago
Utter stupidity!!
zivendn 7 months ago
that's a special kinda retard.
TheShocker2011AZ 8 months ago
Hey, in a pinch why not? I'm sure this was considered in the 9x18's design. In war it would be a good thing to be able to use your opponent's ammo without them being able to use yours.
nater9mm 8 months ago
@nater9mm
No the Makarov was not designed with the thought of using 9mm parabellum in a pinch.
The only reason this douchebag got away with it is the Makarov is .364 cal and the .355 cal 9mm had less resistance slipping through the oversize barrel. The 9X19 operates at almost twice the 9X18 pressure.
Blahblobify 7 months ago
WHAT A FREAKING IDIOT.
cbarsonfire 8 months ago
Comment removed
cbarsonfire 8 months ago
that is a great way to blow the gun up in your face
yurik19881 10 months ago 2
I own two Makarov's and I would never do what he did, just does not seem safe to me. Why would you want to do it anyway?
nbanolfkid 11 months ago
@nbanolfkid agree, and I have one also, in fact I show my makarov on my channel
gumpster66 8 months ago
this is a fraud, a trick. or else very, very lucky. most likely it is just faked with editing software, or else it could possibly (not likely) be a hand-loaded 9x19 cartridge, to keep 9x18 pressure. even then the case would most likely split.
the issue of firing 9x17 (.380 ACP) in a 9x18 firearm is a much more interesting one; it's perfectly safe, but will wreck your barrel quick.
EuropiumGadolinium 11 months ago
@EuropiumGadolinium
He probbly got away with it because the Makarov is .364 cal, the .355 bullet o the 9x19 went through the oversized barrel without developing as much pressure as normal.
Complete dumbass though.
TheJomogogo 10 months ago
Koriadictator 11 months ago
@Koriadictator got sexy women in hungary?
SupremeAmerican 11 months ago
@SupremeAmerican yes, to many!!!!!!!
Koriadictator 11 months ago
I like the pause before he fires the 9x19. I wonder if he lost a bet and had to do this... Not to smart...
ILPrepper 11 months ago
yea, now go fire a 44 magnum out of a 44 special. ill see ya at the hospital.
gunman848 1 year ago 2
I can't wait for him to try this again and that slide flies like a bird into his face.
redmax28 1 year ago 2
9mm Luger= 34K psi or so average. 9MM Makarov= 23K psi or so. Eventually, that chamber's going to go and with Hungarian alloys, I'd bet sooner rather than later.
deussolinvictus 1 year ago
@deussolinvictus I'm not saying it's safe, but what makes you think Hungarian metal quality is bad?
esh325 1 year ago
Mythbusters needs to put this to the test.
gorak142 1 year ago
what dangers could happen if you did this
Jacko180589 1 year ago
@Jacko180589 The gun could explode, and take the shooters hand with it. Like as not the only thing that saved him was the fact that Mak bullets are .363 around and 9x19 are .355, the extra room allows some of the gas to escape lowering the pressure, but eventually the chamber will fail.
2771 1 year ago
Whats the last thing you hear a redneck say before dying?
Hey Yall, Watch this.
This is Darwinism folks. Just a matter of time.
StSimonMartyr 1 year ago
@StSimonMartyr He sounds very Northern to me. Not a single "hey, yall" came out of his mouth. Apparently Darwinism applies to northerners equally. Besides, the rednecks I know don't chamber the wrong caliber in any gun, we apparently know something this goof doesn't. Maybe he should fire a few .357's mags in a .38 special. Hey, they'll fit. Or .44 mags in a .44 special, it's a little tight but hey, no problem, right up until it blows up and takes your hand off. Moron.
Nicodemus98 1 year ago
Hey guy in the video. 115 grain 9mm sucks. Use 147 grain +P+ next time you try this.
AngeredKabar 1 year ago
NO PROBLEM...stupid, but NO PROBLEM, retarded, but NO PROBLEM----this will catch up to you one day NOTICE
wickedsentient 1 year ago
what did they say ? it failed to battery? my glock does that sometimes what is it???
shadeshiest22 1 year ago
@shadeshiest22 Failure to battery is saying the action failed to close completely. As such he is firing a gun not safely closed. It is only matter of time until the gun is damaged and if he does this enough, when the gun blows apart, so will he.
Nicodemus98 1 year ago
I hope he's not from Texas!
07yensid 1 year ago
The PA-63 is a very nice and accurate gun (and not a "cheap knockoff" as some people call it). I own one and it's one of my favorite handguns. However, it is an aluminum-framed gun. Putting a 9x19 round through a 9x18 handgun is stupid enough as it is. Putting it through one with an aluminum frame is downright retarded. Taken care of, the PA-63 is one of the nicest and most pleasant 9x18 guns to shoot. Abusing it like this is a waste.
WardenWolf 1 year ago 2
he probably hand loaded the 9x19 with a low load. I cant believe anyone is dumb enough to put a full powered 9x19 in a 9x18 handgun.
dumbass
MCPObr44 1 year ago 15
@MCPObr44 Nope winchester whitebox and he is that dumb!!
taglmla 11 months ago 7
In a severe clinch, life or death scenario, I agree to this practice. Other than that, this is a no go for me that is.
UrbanTiger74 1 year ago 2
MUCHOS WEBOS ME AMIGO
davism4a1 1 year ago
Yeah no problem until you blow your hand off.
1039sflem 1 year ago
@1039sflem MIGHT NOT BLOW UR HAND OFF BUT THAT IS STILL 1MM OF BRASS TO FLY IN ALL DIRECTIONS AND FUC U UP
davism4a1 1 year ago
/facepalm
wowrazzor 1 year ago
That isn't anymore a Makarov pistol then a 1911 chambered in 9mm is a M9.
Nimbly 1 year ago
Thats not a makarov. That is a cheap ass aluminum framed 9x18 nock off of a walther pp in the mak caliber that will fire out of battery. Dangerous, stupid and to anyone who knows this guy... smack him on the back of his head for making gunowners look stupid. Better yet tell him to put a 454 casull in a taurus judge (yep it'll fit) stand back and watch him lose a hand.
booyalakasha1 1 year ago
@booyalakasha1 And then watch the Taurus fanboys come out of the woodwork claiming that "taurus is teh bestest gat evu!R!" and start crying foul over the video being made so their guns look bad...
RaderizDorret 1 year ago
keep doing that, one of two things will happen! A you will wallow out your seat till the spec Makarov ammo wont function properly OR B you will have a catastrophic failure due to higher pressures from the Luger .
This is NOT a .22 where you can put shorts longs and long rifles in the tube
certhaltomcity 1 year ago
This video should be pulled this idiot is doing some dangerous shit here, the only reason he got away with it is the makarov barrel is .364 cal, the 9mm luger cartridge is .355 diameter. Pressure of the 9X19 is almost twice what the makarov is designed for.
TheJomogogo 1 year ago
5 bucks says that AR in the case shown in the beginning is either from Olympic Arms, Bushmaster, DPMS, or RRA...
RaderizDorret 1 year ago
1 stop yelling 2 stop bein a dumb ass ur gonna hurt urself and the media is goin to have a frenzy
hopecamel 1 year ago
@hopecamel You forgot "3- load up that 9x19 in that pistol and play a game of Russian Roulette". ;-)
RaderizDorret 1 year ago
There's an idea. Instead of .357 SIG, all the dumbass in the video needs to do is chamber up a load ramped up to Russian AP spec (with out the AP bullet, of course, just the powder charge) and see what happens. The problem will solve itself.
RaderizDorret 1 year ago
@RaderizDorret lol nice
hopecamel 1 year ago
The only reason he can get away with this is that the pressure escapes past the bullet in the barrel makeing the pressure's the sam as the 9x18. also there is no way this would blow up. the pressure between the 9x19 and the 9x18 is a meer 100+ psi makarovs can handle much higher then what cheap winchester 9mm puts out. and to rest of YOU fudd armchair commandos out there do some research befor making such ignorent comments. Thank you and have a splended night to all.
stg58bravo 1 year ago
@stg58bravo You may want to take your own advice, pal. Max pressure for the 9x18 Makarov is 23,206 psi (looked up on Wiki and confirmed by the CIP). Standard operating pressure for 9x19 Parabellum is 35,000 psi, 38,500 psi for +p loads, and Russian AP loads are very likely to be above 40,000 psi.
RaderizDorret 1 year ago
@RaderizDorret You CAN (trepidation to even mention this) use .380 (9x17mm) it has an even lower threshold than the MAK, completely agree this guy is an idiot putting a Luger in the pipe!!!
certhaltomcity 1 year ago
My gun expertise is amateur at best, but I'm pretty sure the PM wasn't designed to fire 9x19mm rounds..
bopomofo 1 year ago
What a dumbass. The 9x19 has nearly TWICE the pressure of the 9x18. The PA-63 does NOT have a barrel locking device which makes this even more dangerous. And since they can fire the piece of shit out of battery, they have a weapon that is faulty at best. The only way they got away with this is that 9x19 is a .355 bullet and 9x18 is a .36 bullet. This fucktard needs to do us all a favor and try chambering and firing a 357 SIG in that pistol to rid us of his stupidity.
RaderizDorret 1 year ago
@RaderizDorret lol couldnt agree more
hopecamel 1 year ago
Yeeoowww!!! :-O
sfumatoking 1 year ago
Cz 82 or Makarov with 9mm Luger cartrige in chamber can clean your smile... it's stupid idea!
Gangster88232 1 year ago
Natural selection in progress, wolnt be long now.
Phantomrig 1 year ago 42
u can put in even 7.62x25 but who knows how it end
RA9ODE 1 year ago
WOW!, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA! You may get away with it for a few shots but no pistol was ever designed to fire out of battery. Case ruptures to complete weapon destruction are all potential results of doing this. Perhaps the only time I'd perform this would be in a wartime situation where my enemy is gonna kill me otherwise.
My guess is that some of the pressure is escaping ahead of the round due to the difference in size (9mm Makarov is slightly larger than 9mm Luger).
jshicke 1 year ago 4
Complete dumbass.
chupacabra212809 1 year ago 42
umm ya i'll pass different pressures and all that could leave you or anyone else dumb enough to try this missing some fingers
grayparatrooper 1 year ago
Can it fire? Yeah probably. Should you do what this dumbass is doing? NO!!
For the love of God, why do these people breath the same air I do?
sheba106 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
lol.... NO PROBLEM
YET!!!
hog1775 1 year ago
Calling Mr. Darwin, Mr.Darwin please pick up your dumbass at the emergency room .
Coverbuster 1 year ago
think ill just stick to buying the rounds my guns are made for, but thanks, good luck with your hand(when the gun blows up in it)
GSUchevy07 1 year ago
Dumbass
gorak142 1 year ago
9x 17 chamber pressure is about 18k psi. 9x18 runs about 20k psi. 9x19 is about 35k psi, it was designed for gas operated ejection. If I were to be that reckless, I'd use a CZ82 with a heavy Wolff slide spring. 9x18 was designed to be the highest chamber pressure a simple blowback design could handle. That's definitely something I would only do if I was already expecting to die I didn't. .380 in a 9-Mak is probably safe, you just might get some operating failures from lack of pressure.
OfcJimLahey 1 year ago
Yeah tried this in a cz-82 (one time as a test) tested 9x17, 9x18, and 9x19. all worked. Wouldn't ever try it in a PA-63 because of the Aluminum frame... might explode.
ryulikia 1 year ago
Not in a PA-63, CZ82, yes. Only because they were made to handel the Czech's 9x18 ammo, which is hotter than standard Makarov 9mm
Goodspittin 1 year ago
I can see this guy causing a lot of handguns to explode with his experiments.
Rkeign 1 year ago
looks like an excellent way to eat the slide. With no recoil spring, the Makarovs use the weight of the slide to absorb the recoil. 9*18 is about the max it can handle. Sure, you may get away with it for a few shots due to over engineering, but you better be ready when it fails.
jshicke 1 year ago
9mm (Luger, Parabellum) = 9X19mm
9mm Makarov = 9X18mm
.380 ACP = 9X17mm
sittingbull09 1 year ago
Hungarian FÉG...
Fegyver És Gépgyár (Gázkészülékgyár)...
I'm Hungarian...
boombabyhey 1 year ago
"For anyone who doesn't understand". That's how the video starts out. That's got to be on par with "here, hold my beer and watch this". Wow, you've really proved your point....
No offense, but this is one of the more idiotic things I've ever seen done with a handgun.
snowdogthewolf 1 year ago
Only a fucking moron would actually shoot 9mm Luger out of a 9x18 Makarov Handgun.
MrSmith870 1 year ago
I've always been told and lived by never put in a gun anything but what it says on the barrel....I'd never take a chance of an accident happening...You can always buy more 9x18 but you can't replace your hand or worse, your life...
RichfromNH 1 year ago
This pistol is in 9x18 due to the safety limitation of the direct blow back..
I wouldn't shoot that.
christouph89 1 year ago
Wonder if that pistol still works...or if it still exists at all. Stupid stupid stupid.
hermit8927 1 year ago
I think the reason the blow-back action didn't open too soon (and cause a burst case) was the 9x19mm round with an exactly 9.00mm diameter bullet, while this gun has a barrel to fire the 9x18mm round with a precisely 9.27mm wide bullet.
That 0.27mm "gap" could be enough for a significant amount of gas from the burning powder to leak around the bullet, reducing the chamber pressure to less than 9x19mm would normally give. Likely terrible accuracy and of course still a terrible idea.
Treblaine 1 year ago
DO NOT DO THIS!! ESP WITH THE PA_63. this is the WORST pistol to try this on because it has an aluminum frame.The slide is likely to fly off into your face, causing very serious injuries or death. nothing on the gun is rated for such a large increase in pressure. plus, remember these are old , surplus guns.
if you insist on doing this, at least use a steel framed model.
there are easier and less painful ways to remove yourself from the gene pool.
stevehenry1 1 year ago
You are a dumb ass. 9mm makarov is actually 9.1 mm in bullet diameter. And .380 is not the same round you dumb piece of shit.
AndyHanturd 1 year ago
Just because you can... doesn't mean you should.
Treblaine 1 year ago 2
@Treblaine
Best advice I had read in a long time.
someoneigna 1 year ago
The PA-63, the P-64s and the CZ-82/83s are not Makarovs in terms of they are not PM Makarovs. That said, they are all very good pistols.
chrismc410 1 year ago
if it fails to battery some of the pressure blows out the side, Russians are known to make weapons to chamber enemy rounds single shot in emergency situations (Mortars especially.)
derigid 1 year ago
spooky
sailingmanuel 1 year ago
seriously, don't fire a gun that fails to battery.
agadhahab1 1 year ago 2
If you keep that up for very long you may not have a face left. 9x18 operates at a pressure of around 24,000 PSI, 9x19 operates at 33,000. The PA 63 simply was not designed to handle those pressures.
Luteif 2 years ago
Sorry gang,....... This guy knows what he's talking about. He's showing that a 9x19mm "CAN" be fired in a gat chambered for a 9x18mm. He just doesn't do it as SOP!
CommieKatGurl 2 years ago
Tragically today a man was killed while firing his handgun, the fatal wound was issued by the slide of his PA-63 makarov handgun somehow he shattered the frame causing the slide to lodge in his cranium. This is just ignorant bro, so much could go wrong! why would this guy do such a thing?
nowthisisstupid 2 years ago
Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD. If the guy in the video wore a red cape and jumped off a building, it wouldn't make him Superman.
The 9x19 has much higher pressures than the 9x18 and almost double the pressure of a 9x17 (.380).
ONLY SHOOT THE ROUND YOUR GUN WAS DESIGNED FOR.
lanternlad3 2 years ago
sorry im new at this....can i shoot a 380 pistol with a 9mm round??? a 380 round is 9x17mm and the 9mm round is 9x19mm, so if they are both 9mms one is a bit longer than the other.......can it be done or in viceversa?9mm gun shot with a 380 round?bear with me im new at this.
dozzy000 2 years ago
This is how you blow a gun up. Because some of the cartridge isn't supported.
DON'T DO IT.
SavageArms357 2 years ago
Makarov ammo 9.2mm. 9mm Leger 9.027mm no problem of cause :D allso it's like Walther more than Makarov noobs...
gfhfmf 2 years ago
Yeah, no problem until the damn thing blows up in your hand.
Is 9x19 loaded hotter than 9x18? That would make this just that much worse.
What up G43!
srszczer 2 years ago
im gonna laugh like all hell when the barrel explodes and the guy blames it on a flaw in the hand gun.
stickandrun 2 years ago
Future Darwin Award winner...
lanternlad3 2 years ago
Looking through the comments and just noticing that nobody has said anything nice about the video. So the consensus is this guy is an assclown? Also, I dont think I would shoot anything other than a 9x18 in a 9x18 pistol. That is why they stamp the caliber on the barrel.
korn6499 2 years ago
This is one of the most dangerous, dumb gun videos I have seen.
1039sflem 2 years ago
dudes mkarov is Russian East germanian and Bulgarias. An others are shits... and suck all !!! gfhfmf u are right.
NomNoF 2 years ago 3
PA-63 is Hungarian. P-64 is Polish.
jgcamp99 1 year ago
@NomNoF There are Russian PMs, East German PMs, Bulgarian PMs and Chinese PMs. The East Germans are the best ones, followed by the Bulgarians, Russians and then the Chinese. A PM Makarov from either of those countries will serve one well. I have an East German myself, made in 1961.
chrismc410 1 year ago
This is also telling me that the PA-63 can fire out of battery.
There is nothing good about this video.
ljonesvc 2 years ago
What a fuckin moron.
Valadian 2 years ago
This is classic example of the phrase, "Just because you *can* do something doesn't mean you *should.*"
I kind of wish his hand had been blown off just to teach the stupid shit a lesson.
Gewehr43 2 years ago
does his slide lock be boke or his clip or something?
dermotk5 2 years ago
i have never heard of a makarov blowing up from 9x19
teksizTHC 2 years ago
@teksizTHC Thats because this idiot is the only one I know of who is trying this... I would like to see him put a 124 grain +P sub gun rated 9x19mm round through that and see what happens...
Dietzeeeee 2 years ago
Holy crap the guy in the video is a turd burglar. Can't wait to see the video about how half of his hand is missing cause his gun blew up.
sini5ter 2 years ago
woa...thats about the dumbest thing I've ever seen...do that to many times and pieces of that pistol will permanently become part of the nub that used to be your hand...
TulaMosin1891 2 years ago
lool it's not Makarov it's Walther !!! Makarov like that pistol? :D
gfhfmf 2 years ago
No, that's a FEG pa63. It's chambered in 9mm Makarov. It's not a Walther.
Redbaron011 2 years ago
Right. Hungarian FÉG PA-63.
turulnagykanizsa 2 years ago
It's a Soviet clone of the Walther PPK. It uses a more powerful cartridge than the original though.
Redbaron011 2 years ago
lol he is canadian, it makes sense now. god damn what a tard
stalebiscuit 2 years ago
Comment removed
Redbaron011 2 years ago
@Redbaron011
@stalebiscuit of course. an american would never try that
P4ddl35 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The US is a country that is extremely careless with guns.
Redbaron011 2 years ago
@Redbaron011 He's not Canadian but if he is he can go to jail for owning that gun because its not legal barrel lengh
covertcolt 2 years ago
isn't that only like shotguns or rifles or something?
i don't know
do call me names
dermotk5 2 years ago
hope see you soon in hospital.
psifactor12 2 years ago
You could probably put 9mm Makarov in a 9mm Parabellum and have no problems.
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago
the whole cartridge gets stuck in the barrel.
meowmix669 2 years ago
@meowmix669 you speak from experience I presume?
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago
Naw. But I've seen people try it.
meowmix669 2 years ago
LOL, they must have felt embarrassed.
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago
You can't.
esh325 2 years ago
9mm bullet dia = .355. 9mmMak= .364
If you were able to fire a 9mmMak in a 9mm, you would most likely blow it up. Largest diameter bullet you can safely fire in a 9mm para is .3565
45Blackjack 2 years ago
Ah so its too fat, thats why a 9mm will work in a Makarov but not vice versa!
dawnninjawolf 2 years ago
kinda cool but what he's not thinking about is the difference in pressure. he can get away with a 9mm Para fired here and there but if you were to do it continuously, you'd eventually have the fucking thing blow up in your face
sureshot649 2 years ago 19
@sureshot649 you stole my thunder, the working pressure of the 9mm parabellum is much higher than the makarov
roudy1689 1 year ago
9x19 (9mm)and 9x18(.380) have different standard load bullet diameters. They function but accuracy will suffer a lot. 9x18 makarov is .365, 9x19 is .355 or .356, 9x18(.380) is JUST .355. in A 9mm gun you can shoot .355, .356, and .357 bullets. In a .380 ACP its very not wise to shoot anything but .355 diameter bullets. Will if function, yes. The 9x18 makarov is not compatible with 9mm or .308acp!
CPLBSS88 2 years ago