it makes me mad when people complain about this game having the same cutscenes..but nobody ever mentions that "here comes the pain" and "shut your mouth" used the same cutscenes over and over for fight scenes,promos,backstage interviews etc.....svr08 is a great game
dude you said he just elbowed shawn michaels in the nuts. that was triple h. duh stupid. still this game is totally awsome cause you get to make your own belts and unlock lots of legends. your the man greggy
i like gm mode an i wish it was in 2009 but the gm on this was crap bcoz ecw were part of it an it meant u got a less starting bugdet an got less superstars
If THQ really wants to push the SVR games in the right direction, here's a few things they should consider doing.
1. Have a "Legends" roster with ACTUAL LEGENDS I mean really, who wants to play as The Rock or Stone Cold Steve Austin for the 20th time for gods sakes!? Some ACTUAL LEGENDS for the roster would be like, Razor Ramon, Diesel, IRS, Owen Hart, or Ultimate Warrior
2. Make the game more interactive and less about the actual gameplay and Stop making the controls so FUCKING COMPLITCATED!!!
i totally agree with u about the legends, stone cold and the rock rnt that great, they need razor diesel warrior superstarbillygram nad a million others i can think of
Why is THQ always want us to suffer every time they release their smackdown vs. raw titles? I don't get their point on messing the whole configuration eachtime,You'll definitely will feel hell everytime you buy their new titles. They should have maintained a trademark so fans wouldn't have trouble forcing themselves to have the "vibe" again with the controls.Even I'm a fan of this but I'm fed up with their constant control changing.
i hate how you can't even play as anyone in ecw in 24/7, cm punk is my fav and i cant use him and if you can win the ecw title (The triple threat at survivor seires, must be WH or wwe champ) they take it from you
Fuck 24/7 is the only thing that holds this game back imo who in da hell likes winning a match then watch your superstar walk of like he losed wtf? and in the the story on it you get your ass kicked i mean come fucking on. But the online and exhibition are of the hook
Lol I agree with you in everyway! you kicked there ass all around the ring then won, and u walk off like u have got whopped, its kind of stupid as well because i want to play as mrmachon but have to do general manager mode, only let down is 24/7 mode
Last wrestling game i got was Here Comes the Pain as a gift for christmas 2003 (i think). Is it worth buying this one for PS2? I mean I can see some animations here from back in those days and even further back!
and then the fact u can only go for the wwe championship. and then after u win the ttiel, u no matter wat have to start again and relengwish the title,, and go do the same bullshit.
i got bored with this game after about a week. the stories on 24/7 mode are always the same. really dissapointing compared to how good they used to be in past games. there were way too many glitches on the game e.g when i was in an extreme rules match between sabu and tommy dreamer taz started talking about the rock. all in all, boring game, took it back to the shop after a couple of weeks
it's called "Rated RKO" ur opponent has to be in the corner facing you and you use a finisher. ur opponent will kick you in the face and go to the top. when he jumps you just do an RKO.
a wrestler with the Powerhouse fighting ability can Strong Irish Whip an opponent over the security wall but you can also Irish Whip someone into it then grapple them to clothesline them over the barricade.
Hehe...everyone's like oh no its the same game as last year so they rate it a 6.5 but thy rated last year's game a 8.5...and this years has more coolness and the updated roster...i dont get it people are dumb. thx for posting this im going to get it for my xbox 360 now. and prove to my annoying sister it isnt the worst.
You know, if they had Wi-Fi, it would've made up for the lack of match types. I mean, they have a Tag Team match, but not a Fatal Four-Way match... Huh???
i hope they focus more on gameplay and adding superstars and better storylines for SVR09, i think they should leave the graphics now as they are or maybe sort out clipping and stuff like that
come on add me ill play u baby taz uk i feel wot ur sayin the 24/7 mod is crap man i got a broken leg and its messin up my icon i play hardcore so it dont help when i try to cheat to win :p chair in head bust open get more fired up but yeah its ok i guess just dnt like the 24/7 think thay shoud really work on the story line as for the pple on it look really real to 07 anyhow yeah if u add me let me no who u are or i will get confused alright peace man ill fava this
can anybody tell me why when I take a picture in create mode it come out in a squre or box thing do you know what Iam talking about and if so its not write the othere wrestlers are possed.....
yea once u beat the season mode once with a superstar the next year is gonna be the same thing all over again n over n over n over N OVER AGAIN so its gay im gonna go trade in the game on saturday
They're ALL good. The game is stunning especially Randy Orton's turnbuckle RKO.
Gameplay 9.5
In the ring, it's the blast we've been having for years with great moves and vicious NEW weapons, the GREAT 24/7 mode,GREAT roster and the GREAT old fashioned matches will be GREAT for the people that know what they're talking about
I don't know why anyone would give this an 8.0, not only did they not fix all the problems from 2007, but they made a whole lot of new ones, particularly in the 24/7 mode. I'd give it a 6.0 at most.
online will be the only reason i get this game pretty much. i mean the 24/7 mode will be played until it bores me and all the other shits on it. but i will mostly be up online. luckily i gots a 360 for christmas
This game is tight as hell is just the only thing I dont like is the atributes the way you have to gaing it.
is not like before in 07 when you won matches and gaing your atributes that way now you have to compet in training sessions and it gets boring I just skip all that crap and win matches to gain money to buy the upgrades.
yo i got this game for wii how come the parking lot and those other matches arent showing do i have to unlock them? and how do i do general manager mode is it in the wii version? and how do i see those guys talking plz tell me
yo i got this game for wii how come the parking lot and those other matches arent showing do i have to unlock them? and how do i do general manager mode is it in the wii version?
thanks for this commentary i will buy it
MasterofPokemonGing 1 year ago
it makes me mad when people complain about this game having the same cutscenes..but nobody ever mentions that "here comes the pain" and "shut your mouth" used the same cutscenes over and over for fight scenes,promos,backstage interviews etc.....svr08 is a great game
awesomecaws 1 year ago
you suck!!! ps3 is always better than 360.
masnazi 1 year ago
at the start who's entry is that it looks like Chris jericho's entry
raptormarlins211 2 years ago
can you hae 3 controllers (ps3) for this game?
ljb265 2 years ago
u can have 6 lol
BLOOD235 2 years ago
really boring
Tinaphan45 2 years ago
dude you said he just elbowed shawn michaels in the nuts. that was triple h. duh stupid. still this game is totally awsome cause you get to make your own belts and unlock lots of legends. your the man greggy
OMGKID2445 2 years ago
i like gm mode an i wish it was in 2009 but the gm on this was crap bcoz ecw were part of it an it meant u got a less starting bugdet an got less superstars
MarbelTplayer 2 years ago
when randy hit triple h in the nuts he called HHH shawn michaels
theRatedBsuperstar 2 years ago
look at that faget
twistedsrp 3 years ago
this game was better than 07,... but not as great as 09
nwoskull 3 years ago
i made 75 million cash on gm mode.....
harsimrat17 3 years ago
lol y2g
feelinluckypunk97 3 years ago
can u play as ur created superstar in 24/7?
XXXemoguitarheroXXX 3 years ago
yes
greendaydude395 3 years ago
this game rocks, but 09 is way fuckin better. THQ RULZ!!! (also WWE RULZ!!!)
EddieJet16 3 years ago 2
create a arena would be nice
Surrender95 3 years ago 4
i love this game for ps2
jattrulesathockey 3 years ago 4
uno da guy who was playing da game how comes on 24/7 mode the superstar 1 how come he was playing as cm punk from ecw?
DarkDestroyer1998 3 years ago
on 24/7 mode iv alredy go 55% on it
gtakid09 3 years ago
i think the comentatng should change and in season mode the comentating has to do with the storyline ur doing
LAxGalaxy 3 years ago 2
anybody knw is ps3 gona have voice over i hope
dougcris09 3 years ago
If THQ really wants to push the SVR games in the right direction, here's a few things they should consider doing.
1. Have a "Legends" roster with ACTUAL LEGENDS I mean really, who wants to play as The Rock or Stone Cold Steve Austin for the 20th time for gods sakes!? Some ACTUAL LEGENDS for the roster would be like, Razor Ramon, Diesel, IRS, Owen Hart, or Ultimate Warrior
2. Make the game more interactive and less about the actual gameplay and Stop making the controls so FUCKING COMPLITCATED!!!
Outbreak3r 3 years ago
i totally agree with u about the legends, stone cold and the rock rnt that great, they need razor diesel warrior superstarbillygram nad a million others i can think of
LAxGalaxy 3 years ago 2
I know right. SVR 06 had the best controlling system.
moseman447 2 years ago
nao vi nada
edienf 3 years ago
Why is THQ always want us to suffer every time they release their smackdown vs. raw titles? I don't get their point on messing the whole configuration eachtime,You'll definitely will feel hell everytime you buy their new titles. They should have maintained a trademark so fans wouldn't have trouble forcing themselves to have the "vibe" again with the controls.Even I'm a fan of this but I'm fed up with their constant control changing.
darkskyBAO 3 years ago 2
i hate how you can't even play as anyone in ecw in 24/7, cm punk is my fav and i cant use him and if you can win the ecw title (The triple threat at survivor seires, must be WH or wwe champ) they take it from you
assattack5 3 years ago
This game is good on X-box 360 and PS3, but sucks badly on PS2
alexmanthegreat 3 years ago 4
i agree with u the psp ver is even better
wwerko1 3 years ago
both sony and microsoft versions are the same... except the nintendo ones O_O
aaronolisrocks 3 years ago 3
3:23 to 3:30, thats funny when he talks
mrmychemfan4evr 3 years ago
I like the game. That was a great review. I agree with it. The game is good.
Jman4Life45 3 years ago 2
I Havent got it yet tomoz but i dunno if i should get i need to know!
Kairnz7 3 years ago
This game was great and all, but there are no Hulk Hogan or NWO characters.
Maybe it'll fill in at SvR 09.
dean0103m 3 years ago
u can get ur caw up to 99 by skipping to wrestlemania on the calendar in 24/7 mode if any1 cares
ACDCrocks051 3 years ago 3
if only svr 09 had that
POKEMONMASTERDARIUS 2 years ago
yah but atleast its not as hard (hehe hard) to get the caw up to 99
ACDCrocks051 2 years ago
I havent played 08 yet, hows the new submission system?
brooklynartist 3 years ago 2
It's actually really good.
Gimelbub 3 years ago 2
r u ever on ecw in 24/7 mode?
hockeyislife5 3 years ago 6
only during GM mode, unfortunately not Story mode
Rasy2kG 3 years ago
@Rasy2kG yeah u can
souljaboy7781 1 year ago
Nice review!Good thoughts and so true!
theabrigedfreak 3 years ago 3
Fuck 24/7 is the only thing that holds this game back imo who in da hell likes winning a match then watch your superstar walk of like he losed wtf? and in the the story on it you get your ass kicked i mean come fucking on. But the online and exhibition are of the hook
JuggaloRyda50187 3 years ago 2
Lol I agree with you in everyway! you kicked there ass all around the ring then won, and u walk off like u have got whopped, its kind of stupid as well because i want to play as mrmachon but have to do general manager mode, only let down is 24/7 mode
M3ZGT 3 years ago 2
dude when ya wrestler is ingured u dont use them in a fight
galifray 4 years ago 2
Why is the video so clean 'Rasy2kG'?????????????
NatuYared 4 years ago
being an IGN Insider alllows you to download higher quality videos
Rasy2kG 3 years ago
how cum ye video quality is so clean ??
kidklamper1509 4 years ago 2
i play on ps2 but cant play on gm mode
TanmanHBK 4 years ago
u can but its solid
galifray 4 years ago 2
No more Bra & Pannies matches?? =[
HSChaos 4 years ago
good review! i only disagree on the injury issue
warlock253 4 years ago
good review! i only disagree on the injury issue
warlock253 4 years ago
i Have the PSP version but why doesn´t the refferee talk I only hear Rock musics ?????do I need to change that at Options ????
cripdoggydogg 4 years ago
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i give this game a 3
DRiPPz6800 4 years ago
why do they always compete for the same title in 24/7 mode???? and why do they repeate the same storylines all the time?
DahStoryTella 4 years ago 3
wtf i dont have all those things on the wii....
silverblkdragon 4 years ago
this review is really only for 360/PS3 versions of WWE Smackdown vs. RAW 2008 featuring ECW
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
what a rip off!
Sannela26 4 years ago
i want that game..and dagnt im gettin it
riffruff23 4 years ago
i was thinkin of buyin this game for the ps2 but im not sure. any1 mind tellin me what the storyline 4 the "season" is this time??? plzzz
malditomexicano732 4 years ago
Last wrestling game i got was Here Comes the Pain as a gift for christmas 2003 (i think). Is it worth buying this one for PS2? I mean I can see some animations here from back in those days and even further back!
Geraldon1 4 years ago
It's messed up because if you loose a title at a PPV you dont get another shot unless you win the Royal Rumble...
MoneyBanks1020 4 years ago 2
GM mode sucks i beat it and have 100% but nothing wont happen wat else do i need to do?
RafaelPhoenix07 4 years ago
If you're on the Xbox 360 and you achieved 100% in your 1st year you should've unlocked GM of the Year achievement.
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
i have the psp version
RafaelPhoenix07 4 years ago
is the story mode good on this game?
i know for a fact its not worth buying because most games out there now arent worth buying, unless those cool online games like halo 3 etc.
Im thinking about renting it.
my xbox live gamertag Flawl3ss Playa
ivan123579 4 years ago
Y2G LOLZ
realone211 4 years ago
how long does it take to win the title on 24/7 mode
lilsamster5 4 years ago 2
It depends on how good you are. I have 2% with my own superstar.
Enkido932 4 years ago
and then the fact u can only go for the wwe championship. and then after u win the ttiel, u no matter wat have to start again and relengwish the title,, and go do the same bullshit.
555MARCUS666 4 years ago
i got bored with this game after about a week. the stories on 24/7 mode are always the same. really dissapointing compared to how good they used to be in past games. there were way too many glitches on the game e.g when i was in an extreme rules match between sabu and tommy dreamer taz started talking about the rock. all in all, boring game, took it back to the shop after a couple of weeks
jackintheboxwithagun 4 years ago
that last rko was great.how did you do that
yungbfr13 4 years ago
it's called "Rated RKO" ur opponent has to be in the corner facing you and you use a finisher. ur opponent will kick you in the face and go to the top. when he jumps you just do an RKO.
thakrazykid24 4 years ago
great vid..i never knew you could fight in the crowd until i saw this
yungbfr13 4 years ago
no such thing as 'HD' on youtube
RIPxbox360 4 years ago 8
this game is really gud
john95batista 4 years ago 2
can you win the tsg team championships
EXTREMEdan2007 4 years ago
In GM Mode but you only go for the singles belt in Season Mode
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
I think I know how to play as ecw in 24/7 mode create a susperstar put him on ecw and play as him it might not work i have not tried it yet
ShoutMyName 4 years ago
that will not work if you do season mode in 24/7 mode
if you select an ECW superstar and then do GM mode in 24/7 then your wrestler will wrestle for ECW
GetAnabolics 4 years ago 2
are you guys talking about in 2007 or 2008?
bbdude77 4 years ago
Good review man...Your right about the stuff you said. I think that at the create-a-wrestler mode they should have a hell of a lot more options.
ganstaliciousbr 4 years ago
Nice
AZTNT23 4 years ago
how do you get your oponent ver the secuirety wall?
dragonite554 4 years ago
a wrestler with the Powerhouse fighting ability can Strong Irish Whip an opponent over the security wall but you can also Irish Whip someone into it then grapple them to clothesline them over the barricade.
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
THANK YOU!
dragonite554 4 years ago
nice job
ihategoingbald 4 years ago
the bad thing is that u cant use a ecw star on 24/7 mode:(
pavan151 4 years ago 5
could a created superstar be on ecw
lilsamster5 4 years ago 2
only during 24/7 'GM Mode'
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
ye it can
baaz23 4 years ago
Oh and I forgot to ask but how do you put Svr entrances and matches and stuff on youtube?
I have Svr 2007 and an Xbox 360.
xlilstitchx 4 years ago
Hehe...everyone's like oh no its the same game as last year so they rate it a 6.5 but thy rated last year's game a 8.5...and this years has more coolness and the updated roster...i dont get it people are dumb. thx for posting this im going to get it for my xbox 360 now. and prove to my annoying sister it isnt the worst.
xlilstitchx 4 years ago
thanks for the comment, if you're going to be on Xbox 360 look me up
Gamertag: Rasy2kG
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
They didn't review the Wii version. I have it. Is it really that bad? ... mmm... maybe. lol
triforceplus1 4 years ago
i just played the wii version, it's not that bad it's just it could of been better.
MarkSamurai5 4 years ago
You know, if they had Wi-Fi, it would've made up for the lack of match types. I mean, they have a Tag Team match, but not a Fatal Four-Way match... Huh???
triforceplus1 4 years ago
good person created
RESTERQ4LIFE 4 years ago
they made the ps3 and x box 360 too dark it looks like a black out!
haasxoxo 4 years ago
now im on raw facing edge and orton with candice michelle as wwe champion in 24/7
nascarfan1444 4 years ago
lol for my caw my finisher are the rated rko and the tko
nascarfan1444 4 years ago
Greg Miller is such a nit picker
Ak1015 4 years ago
better than not giving enough detail
SUP4L33TKILL4 4 years ago
I'd give it a 4 on the wii. 5 matche types, no 24/7 mode and no shop.
cardsrock00 4 years ago
i hope they focus more on gameplay and adding superstars and better storylines for SVR09, i think they should leave the graphics now as they are or maybe sort out clipping and stuff like that
BenRen316 4 years ago 2
come on add me ill play u baby taz uk i feel wot ur sayin the 24/7 mod is crap man i got a broken leg and its messin up my icon i play hardcore so it dont help when i try to cheat to win :p chair in head bust open get more fired up but yeah its ok i guess just dnt like the 24/7 think thay shoud really work on the story line as for the pple on it look really real to 07 anyhow yeah if u add me let me no who u are or i will get confused alright peace man ill fava this
BadManTaz35 4 years ago
Does anyone know how to change the fighting stance for a created character?
b9rc0de 4 years ago 2
unfortunately, you can't change the fighting stance for a CAW
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!
b9rc0de 4 years ago
one of the many downsides to SDvR 2008
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
really I didn't notice, no seriously I didn't even relize that until I read this
Ak1015 4 years ago
im gonna giv this game a 6.5 what killed it this year is the season mode all they story lines suck ass this year
nwolwo 4 years ago
yeah the story does suck, right now I'm Jeff Hardy and I'm fighting Johnny Nitro and Carlito for a movie role. I know..... WTF!!!
Ak1015 4 years ago
can anybody tell me why when I take a picture in create mode it come out in a squre or box thing do you know what Iam talking about and if so its not write the othere wrestlers are possed.....
parrotcon 4 years ago
yea once u beat the season mode once with a superstar the next year is gonna be the same thing all over again n over n over n over N OVER AGAIN so its gay im gonna go trade in the game on saturday
nwolwo 4 years ago
No you losers,
its called Super RKO.
kerberrox24 4 years ago
is there a bra and panties match
adamz1224 4 years ago
its not called a turn buckle RKO its called a rated RKO he used it when he was part of the team Rated RKO
radius15 4 years ago
Graphics 10.0
They're ALL good. The game is stunning especially Randy Orton's turnbuckle RKO.
Gameplay 9.5
In the ring, it's the blast we've been having for years with great moves and vicious NEW weapons, the GREAT 24/7 mode,GREAT roster and the GREAT old fashioned matches will be GREAT for the people that know what they're talking about
weezyfbaby000 4 years ago
u from ilinois?
joep125 4 years ago
1st guy iz a loser
hellosaysme08 4 years ago
like u???????
joep125 4 years ago
I don't know why anyone would give this an 8.0, not only did they not fix all the problems from 2007, but they made a whole lot of new ones, particularly in the 24/7 mode. I'd give it a 6.0 at most.
MDCage 4 years ago
from that..is there no elimanation chamber?
TomDoherty01 4 years ago
omg tht rko frm top rope is mean
j2k794 4 years ago
does he mean no voices on the ps3 at all or just online
KingT26 4 years ago 2
on the PS3 online, no Voice Chat
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
24/7 mode would only make sense with a CAW
drxtreme4738 4 years ago
online will be the only reason i get this game pretty much. i mean the 24/7 mode will be played until it bores me and all the other shits on it. but i will mostly be up online. luckily i gots a 360 for christmas
LudatikKidd66614 4 years ago 2
can i choose wepon at ps2
gospodarsamoce 4 years ago
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i heard this game get really boring quickly
rogers4lyf 4 years ago
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yeah. you will get bored after 4 hours
wrestling10000 4 years ago
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i so good in this game....itz boring...im high ranked on xbox live
rogers4lyf 4 years ago
This game is tight as hell is just the only thing I dont like is the atributes the way you have to gaing it.
is not like before in 07 when you won matches and gaing your atributes that way now you have to compet in training sessions and it gets boring I just skip all that crap and win matches to gain money to buy the upgrades.
rezlifeD6 4 years ago 7
im kinda of a noob at the game, but how do i navigate in 24/7 mode cuz i cant get to matches or do interviews so can any1 plz help?
crapalike 4 years ago 4
the game is out of date.
raya2007 4 years ago
that guy looked nothing like roddy piper
KingKedzie1713 4 years ago
i managed to stack up 3 ladders climbed right to the top.....and jump off with a swanton
vishminator 4 years ago
is it true you cant play as an ecw dude in 24/7 mode
rvdrocksalot 4 years ago 2
it's true, you can still use Johnny Nitro but he's considered on the RAW roster in the game (Pre-Draft rosters)
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
is the game out yet?
STFU2121 4 years ago
yeah it was out like a month ago.
rita23456789 4 years ago
simulating 24/7 mode for caw for easy attributes FTW
Jerry4050 4 years ago
i think that they sdhould have put in the extream elimonation chamber
moosenoodle 4 years ago
the calender comment, fair do's it is in detroit every year but umm.. greg, wrestlemania 23 was actually in detroit.
JohnCenaHater123 4 years ago
fuck does he mean no voice online?
GLUGLUCKS 4 years ago
on the 360 you can inport music for your caw guy
pipinirish88 4 years ago
r u sure?cuz for 07 u couldnt and it pissed me off
danster37 4 years ago
this game is so awsome but i wish that it could go online
Viperconsept247 4 years ago
u can go online O_o
aaronolisrocks 4 years ago
i ahve all the game wwe games 4 ps2 form bring the pain-2008 lol iam nerd nah i am a superstar
dexstar2006 4 years ago
i think SD: SYM was the best in the series, we'd play that on the PS1 for months and months
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
how can you play it on ps1
POKEMONMASTERDARIUS 2 years ago
wii only have 4matches lol
INORWAYI 4 years ago
seriously?
LilGTWarrior1028 4 years ago
i have been playing this game for 12 hours straight with food and bathroom breaks
Ramsfan086 4 years ago 3
They should skip next year and release 2009 in 2009 so they can really work on it.
We'll have this game, fire pro, and the TNA game. (and mayb one more foriegn title)
So then they can make it kick ass with a huge roster.
Nic1700 4 years ago
nice thought but 2008 would be a horrible year w/o a new game. maybe they can release it in like february of 2009
tuckerb16 4 years ago
THIS GAME OWNZ!
pieguy987 4 years ago 2
Nice commentary guys.You sound like pros.
GameMasterrr92 4 years ago
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i can tell this game sucks first there is no voice or online sessions what the fuck that is like the fun part
chris5195 4 years ago
how come you cant really do anything in season?
skuller192 4 years ago
did you say no voice overs in svr2008 on playstation.
wwefan360 4 years ago
He Said No Voice Overs For PS3 & XBOX 360.
djwhut9827 4 years ago
why are there no voices.......
Staksgeg 4 years ago
yo i got this game for wii how come the parking lot and those other matches arent showing do i have to unlock them? and how do i do general manager mode is it in the wii version? and how do i see those guys talking plz tell me
gagandeep56 4 years ago
the Wii/DS versions are totally different from the other consoles and those matches/features are unavailable
Rasy2kG 4 years ago
what about 24/7 mode i beat the main event mode and on the cheats on websites it says there is a 24/7 mode? They really mest up the nintendo vesions.
JSC3 4 years ago
yo i got this game for wii how come the parking lot and those other matches arent showing do i have to unlock them? and how do i do general manager mode is it in the wii version?
gagandeep56 4 years ago
why do they even bother
mrsmaryjane11 4 years ago