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  • The A320 automatically transitioned from FLIGHT mode to GROUND mode when the right wheel touched down briefly, despite the plane still being airborne. GROUND mode halves the controls - which makes for smoother landings - but in this case meant the pilots couldn't correct for the sudden wind gusts.

  • Despite the comment in the description... That is a good 20º WCA. At a sea level airport, Vapp I estimate at 135 Kt (nominal correction included) for a 60 tonne LW, gives us 135 x Sin(20º) = 46 Kt crosswind component. The A320's limit is 38 Kt crosswind component, including gusts. They should not even have attempted this.

  • @CaptWindShear Most European companies require you to land on the first time and land no matter what. They're a lot stricter than the American companies. This guy also hit full power before wheels down, but the spool up time on those engines is massive and part of the reason for this happening. Lotta bad things lead to stuff like this.

  • DaNeon83!

    Typisch deutsche?

    Was soll das denn bitte? als ob die anderen Länder nie Fehler machen würden oder?

    Frag dich doch mal wie du dich in so einer Situation verhalten würdest!

    Echt solche Leute, die solche Vorurteile haben nerven mich!

  • @TheStreberClub1428

    Er macht einen Witz. Bonus is, at least you showed your "Germanness" through lack of the understand of sarcasm, which was probably more funny than the original joke.

  • @TheStreberClub1428

    Er macht einen Witz. Bonus is, at least you showed your "Germanness" through lack of the understand of sarcasm, which was probably more funny than the original joke.

  • thanks this is very interesting. just a few questions, please answer :) , is hamburg airport also the zurich airport? which runway was this too? thanks

  • @trollydodger No, Hamburg is located in the north of Germany. Zurich is the capital of Switserland. The runway in the vid is EDDH (Hamburg) 33.

  • i was there fuck!

  • Wow. Im sure that was fun for the passengers. I would crapped my pants! :\

  • I'm not an airline pilot - in fact hadn't flown anything but light aircraft - all 20 years ago - but isn't the technique for crosswind landings different for heavy aircraft? I remember that video of Boeing testing their planes at the remote airfield in Brazil - seems like they all touched the mains still crabbed then straightened it with rudder.

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  • well sometimes pilots have no choice but to land no matter the conditions they have a limited amount of fuel depending on the length of the trip. i work on boeing 717, bae 146 and dash 8 aircraft, and have seen crosswind landings before pretty amazing to watch.

  • in theory this is no weakness?

    i would mind two things:

    a big fat red "override" button for "computer problems" for both pilots

    and

    "ground mode" only in case that all back wheels are on ground.

    i guess its long time for a discussion about the power of computers without a "general shut off" possibility for pilots to override, but i am no pilot and have no knowledge on this matter. this are only ideas. the pilots have to enforce and decide.

  • on the news today: one year after - investigators claim that on-board computers porbably responsible for the almost-crash. because after the right-wheel touchdown, the on-board systems switch the mode of operation to "on the ground", as a consequence the computer limits the steering range of the vertical stabilizers, for three seconds, until the pilot intervens, pulls up, and the stabilizers are fully functional again. airbus has not officially commented on that weakness of the software.

  • Oh,That was fun,lets go back up and do this again.

    Surely in adverse conditions they would divert the aircraft

  • had a lot of flights, had 2 emergency landings both with lufthansa...still alive

  • Hats off to the pilot. Good job well done. Not a repeat of the Garuda stuff up.

  • Amazing

  • lufthansa pilot-->skill!

  • does someone know how much a pilot earn ??

  • i think about 5000/month..but i'm not very sure..tschuss!

  • hmm!! not so much!! where r u from?

  • from venice, italy..you?

  • ok ich habe kontrolliert..in average a commercial captain earns a little less than $200 per hour..so it's €140..per 78 to 120 hours/month..

  • naja!! nicht so viel oder??

  • some chief pilots for large commercial airlines (BA, Air France, American Airlines) earn more than £150,000 a year.

  • to papaoscaroscar:

    Should the pilot have even been attempting to land in those conditions?! I would not like to have pilots taking that kind of reckless risk with my life! Surely those extreme wind conditions were outside of company protocol?

  • its Lufthansa

  • F**K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In mid-November 2007, my wife and I returned from Tenerife to Sturup Airpost in south Sweden. The departure with the Airbus 320 went OK, the plane went very steeply up. A smooth travel across the Atlantic and over the southeast parts of Spain. When we had reached Geneva and the Alps, major turbulence started and lasted for about two hours. I have never experienced anything more terrible. We were thrown in all directions, sitting in the middle of the plane. Awful - but we got down safely at last.

  • Stop insulting the pilots. Im giving the captian and the co-pilot credit to handle the plane after that awful sideways landing. It was a pilot reflex to gear up and fly instead gearing down and try to slow down, If he turned the heat down the left wing may hit the floor and cause damage and set the passangers life on risk.

  • you cant say the pilot is to blame. The landing was a typical cross wind landing that most real pilots encounter all the time. The fact is there was a sudden gust just before touch down. As for the pilot 'did well to take back off'.... The planes computer automaticaly takes back of if it thinks that there is no chance of landing. There clever these planes you know.

  • Totally agree with 'sonpit'!

  • Every pilot that I have talked to said that this pilot screwed up, is not a hero and should go back to training

  • i was looking at this vid on sky news at dublin airport an hour before my flight to paris... i am a nervous flyer so this vid was not a good thing to see on tv! haha

  • i want that 24 yr old girl. i saw her in the news. she is great.

  • The pilot who fly that air plane bad arasss i rate that man nuff pilot don't have the balls to fly like that so all the bad things you speaking about that pilot you all full shit it take real balls to fly in weather like that china and Japan famous for cross landing nuff respect from the Antigua & Barbuda Crew (up coming pilot)

  • thank you,archietherobot!I'm still waiting for "jetpilot2004" to tell us idiots & laymen how many PIC hours he or she has! This video has nothing to do with flying skill, but more with over-estimating the skill of the person flying the plane. It could have been totally avoided & I'm sure SIM sessions will prove that it was stupid to do, but maybe flyable by a more experienced pilot.

  • He is approaching with a severe cross wind. He's trained to crab into the wind to keep the wings level and the passengers comfortable. When he uses the rudder to straighten out he accelerates the upwind wing which creates lift and raises it. The strong crosswind gets under the uplifted wing and, well, the results are shown. He should have slipped the plane, kept the upwing wing down. When he leveled it would not have accelerated the wing and created additional lift.

  • emsmaps: its actually the controller who decides where the aeroplane lands.

  • should of aborted way earlier. I bet he got suspended for a bit.

  • The captain is to blame. Hello?! Even if the FO was flying, the captain used poor judgement and he is in charge, so it's his problem. They took a risk with passengers, if they want to kill themselves, don't take anyone else with them. I wouldn't want those idiots flying me around!

  • U're the IDIOT here, Dr-Pussy-Pinky!!! What do laymen and idiots like u know about flying a jet, huh?!?! It would be nice to see how u wud react in a scenario like that! For all the rest of u, u don't realize what commercial pressures and how much of ur own pride and loyalty is involved in trying to land an airplane in even Wx like that! Not that any pro-pilot would ever want to jeopardize their own safety trying it! But it comes down to this:

  • if the twr. controller reports that X-wind, including it's gust factor, is within ur limits, u WOULD continue that approach, and attempt a landing. What happened to these folks thereafter, is down to Luck, God and HISTORY!!! (unlike u, i fly these big-birds professionally!!!)

  • how many hours do you have flying a commercial jet? As PIC? or have you ever flown a plane? My husband has almost 20,000 hours flying commercially, 10,000 as PIC. And don't call me an idiot. I'm far from it. And I know ALL about the pressures of flying. Please let all of us idiots know how many hours you have in- I'm sure it's a whole lot!

  • jetpilot 2004, we're all waiting to hear how many PIC hours you have. Luck & God have nothing to do with it- pride is out of it too. It's called common sense & experience. And experience says you don't take chances with passengers-end of story. That's a great way to end up unemployed. Or flying commuters. Out of curiosity, what plane do you fly and what seat do you sit in?

  • I just want to say that flying commuters is not a bad thing, it's usually a stepping stone to bigger planes or someone who wants to be home every night with their family & not be flying for weeks on end.Like my spouse. He always says you don't get paid to fly a jet, you get paid to leave home & family behind. I don't want commuter pilots to think I think their job is less important.

  • Listen, what u saw here was a fine display of extreme skill. who cares if it was a woman or man or Capt or FO. bottom line is s/he was able to pull up and abort, whereas I agree that luck and ego dont enter into it, u dont have glass ball either. Im sure ur hubbie would have done the same. unless he's never flown either. u cant predict when something like this happens, you can only deal with it. and deal with it they did. so praise them rather than bitchin.

  • The A320 automatically transitioned from FLIGHT mode to GROUND mode when the right wheel touched down briefly, despite the plane still being airborne. GROUND mode halves the controls - which makes for smoother landings - but in this case meant the pilots couldn't correct for the sudden wind gusts.

  • Despite the comment in the description... That is a good 20º WCA. At a sea level airport, Vapp I estimate at 135 Kt (nominal correction included) for a 60 tonne LW, gives us 135 x Sin(20º) = 46 Kt crosswind component. The A320's limit is 38 Kt crosswind component, including gusts. They should not even have attempted this.

  • @CaptWindShear Most European companies require you to land on the first time and land no matter what. They're a lot stricter than the American companies. This guy also hit full power before wheels down, but the spool up time on those engines is massive and part of the reason for this happening. Lotta bad things lead to stuff like this.

  • DaNeon83!

    Typisch deutsche?

    Was soll das denn bitte? als ob die anderen Länder nie Fehler machen würden oder?

    Frag dich doch mal wie du dich in so einer Situation verhalten würdest!

    Echt solche Leute, die solche Vorurteile haben nerven mich!

  • @TheStreberClub1428

    Er macht einen Witz. Bonus is, at least you showed your "Germanness" through lack of the understand of sarcasm, which was probably more funny than the original joke.

  • @TheStreberClub1428

    Er macht einen Witz. Bonus is, at least you showed your "Germanness" through lack of the understand of sarcasm, which was probably more funny than the original joke.

  • thanks this is very interesting. just a few questions, please answer :) , is hamburg airport also the zurich airport? which runway was this too? thanks

  • @trollydodger No, Hamburg is located in the north of Germany. Zurich is the capital of Switserland. The runway in the vid is EDDH (Hamburg) 33.

  • i was there fuck!

  • Wow. Im sure that was fun for the passengers. I would crapped my pants! :\

  • I'm not an airline pilot - in fact hadn't flown anything but light aircraft - all 20 years ago - but isn't the technique for crosswind landings different for heavy aircraft? I remember that video of Boeing testing their planes at the remote airfield in Brazil - seems like they all touched the mains still crabbed then straightened it with rudder.

  • Comment removed

  • well sometimes pilots have no choice but to land no matter the conditions they have a limited amount of fuel depending on the length of the trip. i work on boeing 717, bae 146 and dash 8 aircraft, and have seen crosswind landings before pretty amazing to watch.

  • in theory this is no weakness?

    i would mind two things:

    a big fat red "override" button for "computer problems" for both pilots

    and

    "ground mode" only in case that all back wheels are on ground.

    i guess its long time for a discussion about the power of computers without a "general shut off" possibility for pilots to override, but i am no pilot and have no knowledge on this matter. this are only ideas. the pilots have to enforce and decide.

  • on the news today: one year after - investigators claim that on-board computers porbably responsible for the almost-crash. because after the right-wheel touchdown, the on-board systems switch the mode of operation to "on the ground", as a consequence the computer limits the steering range of the vertical stabilizers, for three seconds, until the pilot intervens, pulls up, and the stabilizers are fully functional again. airbus has not officially commented on that weakness of the software.

  • Oh,That was fun,lets go back up and do this again.

    Surely in adverse conditions they would divert the aircraft

  • had a lot of flights, had 2 emergency landings both with lufthansa...still alive

  • Hats off to the pilot. Good job well done. Not a repeat of the Garuda stuff up.

  • Amazing

  • lufthansa pilot-->skill!

  • does someone know how much a pilot earn ??

  • i think about 5000/month..but i'm not very sure..tschuss!

  • hmm!! not so much!! where r u from?

  • from venice, italy..you?

  • ok ich habe kontrolliert..in average a commercial captain earns a little less than $200 per hour..so it's €140..per 78 to 120 hours/month..

  • naja!! nicht so viel oder??

  • some chief pilots for large commercial airlines (BA, Air France, American Airlines) earn more than £150,000 a year.

  • to papaoscaroscar:

    Should the pilot have even been attempting to land in those conditions?! I would not like to have pilots taking that kind of reckless risk with my life! Surely those extreme wind conditions were outside of company protocol?

  • its Lufthansa

  • F**K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In mid-November 2007, my wife and I returned from Tenerife to Sturup Airpost in south Sweden. The departure with the Airbus 320 went OK, the plane went very steeply up. A smooth travel across the Atlantic and over the southeast parts of Spain. When we had reached Geneva and the Alps, major turbulence started and lasted for about two hours. I have never experienced anything more terrible. We were thrown in all directions, sitting in the middle of the plane. Awful - but we got down safely at last.

  • Stop insulting the pilots. Im giving the captian and the co-pilot credit to handle the plane after that awful sideways landing. It was a pilot reflex to gear up and fly instead gearing down and try to slow down, If he turned the heat down the left wing may hit the floor and cause damage and set the passangers life on risk.

  • you cant say the pilot is to blame. The landing was a typical cross wind landing that most real pilots encounter all the time. The fact is there was a sudden gust just before touch down. As for the pilot 'did well to take back off'.... The planes computer automaticaly takes back of if it thinks that there is no chance of landing. There clever these planes you know.

  • Totally agree with 'sonpit'!

  • Every pilot that I have talked to said that this pilot screwed up, is not a hero and should go back to training

  • i was looking at this vid on sky news at dublin airport an hour before my flight to paris... i am a nervous flyer so this vid was not a good thing to see on tv! haha

  • i want that 24 yr old girl. i saw her in the news. she is great.

  • The pilot who fly that air plane bad arasss i rate that man nuff pilot don't have the balls to fly like that so all the bad things you speaking about that pilot you all full shit it take real balls to fly in weather like that china and Japan famous for cross landing nuff respect from the Antigua & Barbuda Crew (up coming pilot)

  • thank you,archietherobot!I'm still waiting for "jetpilot2004" to tell us idiots & laymen how many PIC hours he or she has! This video has nothing to do with flying skill, but more with over-estimating the skill of the person flying the plane. It could have been totally avoided & I'm sure SIM sessions will prove that it was stupid to do, but maybe flyable by a more experienced pilot.

  • He is approaching with a severe cross wind. He's trained to crab into the wind to keep the wings level and the passengers comfortable. When he uses the rudder to straighten out he accelerates the upwind wing which creates lift and raises it. The strong crosswind gets under the uplifted wing and, well, the results are shown. He should have slipped the plane, kept the upwing wing down. When he leveled it would not have accelerated the wing and created additional lift.

  • emsmaps: its actually the controller who decides where the aeroplane lands.

  • should of aborted way earlier. I bet he got suspended for a bit.

  • The captain is to blame. Hello?! Even if the FO was flying, the captain used poor judgement and he is in charge, so it's his problem. They took a risk with passengers, if they want to kill themselves, don't take anyone else with them. I wouldn't want those idiots flying me around!

  • U're the IDIOT here, Dr-Pussy-Pinky!!! What do laymen and idiots like u know about flying a jet, huh?!?! It would be nice to see how u wud react in a scenario like that! For all the rest of u, u don't realize what commercial pressures and how much of ur own pride and loyalty is involved in trying to land an airplane in even Wx like that! Not that any pro-pilot would ever want to jeopardize their own safety trying it! But it comes down to this:

  • if the twr. controller reports that X-wind, including it's gust factor, is within ur limits, u WOULD continue that approach, and attempt a landing. What happened to these folks thereafter, is down to Luck, God and HISTORY!!! (unlike u, i fly these big-birds professionally!!!)

  • how many hours do you have flying a commercial jet? As PIC? or have you ever flown a plane? My husband has almost 20,000 hours flying commercially, 10,000 as PIC. And don't call me an idiot. I'm far from it. And I know ALL about the pressures of flying. Please let all of us idiots know how many hours you have in- I'm sure it's a whole lot!

  • jetpilot 2004, we're all waiting to hear how many PIC hours you have. Luck & God have nothing to do with it- pride is out of it too. It's called common sense & experience. And experience says you don't take chances with passengers-end of story. That's a great way to end up unemployed. Or flying commuters. Out of curiosity, what plane do you fly and what seat do you sit in?

  • I just want to say that flying commuters is not a bad thing, it's usually a stepping stone to bigger planes or someone who wants to be home every night with their family & not be flying for weeks on end.Like my spouse. He always says you don't get paid to fly a jet, you get paid to leave home & family behind. I don't want commuter pilots to think I think their job is less important.

  • Listen, what u saw here was a fine display of extreme skill. who cares if it was a woman or man or Capt or FO. bottom line is s/he was able to pull up and abort, whereas I agree that luck and ego dont enter into it, u dont have glass ball either. Im sure ur hubbie would have done the same. unless he's never flown either. u cant predict when something like this happens, you can only deal with it. and deal with it they did. so praise them rather than bitchin.

  • ok im not a pilot but im pritty sure his not doing smthing right:P

  • you have to be kidding

  • This is real BS. Of course Cpt. and FO should have the same level of knowledge. And they should have the same amount of SIM and flight training. But there is definitely a difference: experience. Flight hours, types flown, etc, etc.

    Pilots always choose who gets the landing. At least on all of my flights..

  • 24 year old female pilot get the facts straight

  • go to windy airport landings- you'll see a bunch of these landings- except for the wing hit. Which I'm sure the captain got some major crap over.

  • This is your Captain speaking.

    All of you who just shat your pants. You have

    permission to unbuckle your seat belt and head to the restroom.

    The Stewardess will come by and clean your seat for you. Thanks

  • Holy cow- that's hilarious! My airline pilot husband laughed when he watched this video and then laughed when I read your comment.

    Thanks for flying Youtube!

  • oh yeah very funny... --'

  • wow yea that landing should have been aborted way before it was thats carless

  • yep its a woman flying that thing

  • larry the cable guy comes out... "well THERE'S yur problem..."

  • you asshole!

    Who gives a shit if it was a man or a women!

    Freak!

  • copilot was a 24year old girl, she was in charge of the airbus. in germany they are discussing right now what could have happened and who is to blame for that. typically german ;)

  • Does it matter what sex the pilot was?

    Can you fly an Airbus with your penis?

    Are you practicing right now and typing with your left hand? Yes, I thought so.

  • A penis isn't the only difference between the sexes, just in case you didn't know. Don't let a woman do a man's job, it's that simple!!

  • Oh please. What are you, Taliban? There's a thousand female pilots that could out-fly most male pilots. The test data does not support your assertion.

    More passenger aircraft have been crashed due to male pilot error than female pilot error, per capita corrected. That 737 was laying off about 50 deg into that gusting crosswind and that was a fine display of flying.

    You would have crashed your playstation and fallen off your chair into your crisps trying that.

  • Okay, just HOW much of a bigot are you? Wait, don't answer that; parent comment reveals quite clearly that you're a sexist asshat. Go die.

  • right, and you think that discussing about who is to blame for an almost disaster and how it came to that in order to learn from failures that nearly caused a lot of deaths is limited only to Germany? Really?

    I don't know about you, but you sound like a typical german...

  • Nice! very good! someone should give him a medal for that an a better salary!

  • He did great! Amazing!

  • This Lufthansa pilot rocks !!! Gut gemacht, Oliver !

  • The pilot was so close from causing an unnecessary air disaster. He should have request diversion to other airport or runway instead of testing his own skill to the limit.

  • ....GIVE THE MAN SOME CREDIT

  • in a storm that covered almost all northern europe? :/ guess it would have been better to cancel all flights for security reasons, diversion was nearly impossible.

  • Hi there!

    In German Television they said, that the flight controller, did say that there is wind up to 55 knots but that he isn´t able to cancel the landingprocedure, because it is the desicion of the Captain where he is landing!? I think he is very good in his job, and I can not believe that the flight control is unable to give him the "better" runway...

  • oh yes baby!

  • So at least we all know what those little thing-ies on the ends of the wings are.....

    Wingtip Skids..........

  • Great pilot that he was able to save the situation! Not-so-smart flight control giving him this particular landing strip instead of the other, not so strongly effected or tell him to wait / fly to Berlin instead!

  • What always amazes me is that why doesn't the pilot just pull out the "bullshit" flag and say:

    "Negative! Unable landing runway 33 due to weather. Request runway 23 for landing!"

    Which is where he landed later anyway.

    The airport should have switched runways way before the incident occurred but probably have some silly noise abatement rule in effect which says they have to use runway 33 unless the crosswind is to high........

  • I can answer that:

    It is the pilots choice which runway s/he wants to use because s/he is ultimately the ones taking the responsibility. 2nd runway 33 was chosed because it was supported by an automated landing system. If it hadnt been for that one gust it would have been a spot on landing and the wind speeds were wel below the max for that type of aircraft.

  • I like you, bugmenot101! It's amazing how many experts have come out of the woodwork to say what a great job these pilots did, when in reality they screwed with people's lives & someone else's airplane by taking an unnecessary chance. My husband would have refused this landing and gone around, and he's flown into some very dangerous airports,especially in South America. Which is probably why he has survived 36 years of commercial flying!

  • I can answer that:

    It is the pilots choice which runway s/he wants to use because s/he is ultimately the ones taking the responsibility. 2nd runway 33 was chosed because it was supported by an automated landing system. If it hadnt been for that one gust it would have been a spot on landing and the wind speeds were wel below the max for that type of aircraft.

  • I like you, bugmenot101! It's amazing how many experts have come out of the woodwork to say what a great job these pilots did, when in reality they screwed with people's lives & someone else's airplane by taking an unnecessary chance. My husband would have refused this landing and gone around, and he's flown into some very dangerous airports,especially in South America. Which is probably why he has survived 36 years of commercial flying!

  • omg i saw this on the french news amazing awesome pilot!!!

  • Lucky pilot! Maybe even not-so-smart pilot...?

  • awesome pilot? The one who nearly broke the wing off an a320?

  • @rumbleforce i'd be interested in looking at your criteria for a 'good pilot' lol. Why the hell would you try to land in such conditions?

  • @rumbleforce i'd be interested in looking at your criteria for a 'good pilot' lol. Why the hell would you try to land in such conditions?

  • Unbelievable...

  • Amazing video. Very good from the crew they managed to go around. Luckely nobody got hurt! We also had this storm 'Emma' in The Netherlands. It didn't caused very much problems, although Schiphol (Amsterdam Airport) had some trouble with the flight schedule caused by the wind. Flights were cancelled and there were many delays that and the following day.

  • WOW!!!!!

  • Amazing

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