What it´s seemed to be a contradiction in the Book of Mormon, in the end resulted to be a proof that the BOM is true.
Joseph Smith knew that the Bible says Belen, but he translated what it was written in the golden plates. Many years later (after his death) the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls revealed the same information and hystorians explained why.
MORMONS SAY JESUS WAS BORN IN JERUSALEM AND NOT BETHLEHEM. ITS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON -Alma 7:10. DOES THIS PROVE THE BOOK OF MORMON IS TRUE OR A BIG PROOF OF A LIE? A DIFFERENT JESUS?
it is funny that lds put this up. if you pay close attention she ask where should we worship.how does Jesus respond? He tells her its not where but in spirit and in truth. so you do not need to be part of lds for salvation as they claim, you are suppose to worship in spirit and in truth because that is a true worshiper and it is how the Father wants it. read John 4:19-26. it is clear to see.
Jeanneim76 - What does James 2:20, 26 mean to you? It is true. By his grace we are saved. But we must put forth an effort to keep the commandments, learn of Him and be like Him. Would you expect to be given something so precious and bought with such price for nothing? How can you know Him and be like Him if you don't learn and strive to be like Him?
sure you can be like Him and strive to be like him. he was a great example of how man should treat man but it don't buy you a ticket into heven. you can not ever re-pay Jesus back for what He has given to us with any amount of works. We are all sinners. So if you helped every man on earth out and was nice to everyone, you are still a sinner and it is only through grace that your sins are forgiven.
The Word of God shows how to see through false prophets. In studying the Bible I learned that the gospel is this: That Christ came into the world, died for our sins and was resurrected in 3 days. We are saved by grace, not by works. This is what Christ taught, anything outside of Gods word is a false doctrine.
But it aint gonna buy you a ticket into heven. There is only one thing that can let you into the kingdom and that is His grace. And by the way since your so big on doing what the Lord has asked you to do.What are your thought when he asked not to add or take away from His doctrine?
@dorisfenella sure you can, you just dont want to or know how. for example of not giving the full spectrum of His Gosple the BOM cant even get the birth place correct. Alma 7:10 – “And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers…”
Matthew 2:1 – “Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea…” sounds like fallacie to you now?
@dorisfenella so are you saing you agree with the person who wrote the BOM that Jesus was born in Jerusalem and not Bethelehem? Now you know why christans do not consider mormons christans. and by the way, at the local WARD on christmass the show they put on they were telling the story of Jesus as born in Bethelehem. You know the dvd the play for everyone. So which is it?
@dorisfenella No where did i write the words Joseph Smith. i asked you if you agree with the person who wrote the BOM that Jesus was born in Jerusalem and not Bethelehem. Read it again. but is typical mormon response that has no merit or does not want to answer the question. ANSWER THE QUESTION MORMON.
@dorisfenella i will answer your question but do not in any way agree with it. It wa writen by Alma found in the book of mormon. Jesus was born in bethelehem. If he wasn't then explain the prophects in the old testement that said He would be born in bethelehem. Mormon worship a jesus born in a different place is whorshiping a different Jesus that bible based christans worship. If i worship a jesus that was born in china would that be the same Jesus of the bible? NO.
@dorisfenella denying his birth place, his Jewish ancestry, and his death on the cross. If I were to teach these things about Jesus Christ, they would be enough to define a different (false) Jesus Christ.
@123adrspain I told you that is not incorrect and I see you don´t want to answer. What are you afraid of? Anyway you should watch documentaries of the Dead Sea Scrolls, that confirms it was right.
What it seemed a contradiction is in fact, a great proof that the Book of Mormon is true.
@dorisfenella wtf are talking about? i answered your question and told you it was writen by Alma. wtf? what does the dead sea scrolls contradict. the dead sea scrolls are copies of the old testment. "scrolls found near the dead sea" wtf. how does that confirm the book of mormon. dude you make no sense. typical mormon response "no sense". what does that have to do with mormons beliving Jesus was born in Jerusalam?
@123adrspain LOL Don´t be upset with me. I don´t have nothing to do, nor Joseph, nor Alma with the dead sea scrolls, in them it is written that Jesus was born in Jerusalem.
@dorisfenella i am not upset but lets make sure we are all on the same page. "dead sea scrolls" are copies of the old testement that is in the bible. the scrolls were studdied and found that the copies found near the dead sea were 97% the same as in the bible. so that is to say if it is a copy of what we have in our hands then i can look in my hand bible and find it. it is not there. so where in the old testement does it say he was born in jerusalem. what book should i look up.
@dorisfenella I just researched Mormonism Research Ministry and found an article "Was Jesus born at Jerusalem"? By Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson and there is no mention of your claims of dead sea scrolls. I also researched findings of dead sea scrolls and no finding of your claims. I think you are confused and maybe are simply listening to a narrator.Keep in mind what you are claiming would send shock waves through out LDS and it would be big news. No such out burst has ever been displayed.
@123adrspain I am done talking to you, I saw scientific videos that supports the conclusions I gave you. I am not surprising you refuse to believe it. It must be shocking.
@dorisfenella Why are you the only mormon who is screaming "here is the proof to the whole Jerusalem thing, I saw it on T.V." LDS has never said what you are saying. Your Bishop should set it straight for you. I am sorry, i am not trying to offend you but facts are facts.
@dorisfenella But what about your t.v.show that proves i was wrong? your just pissed i proved you wrong. Mormons worship a false jesus. Not the Jesus who was born in Bethlehem but some guy named jesus who was born in that area. What a joke.
What it´s seemed to be a contradiction in the Book of Mormon, in the end resulted to be a proof that the BOM is true.
Joseph Smith knew that the Bible says Belen, but he translated what it was written in the golden plates. Many years later (after his death) the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls revealed the same information and hystorians explained why. Go watch that video It´s correct to say Jesus was born in Jerusalem too.
@123adrspain Listen I don´t remember all the details but the conclusion resulted to be a shock for antimormons who were spreading the same allegation than you now. I think you are not well informed .
If the DSS were only a copy of the Bible, there it would have been written "Belen"
instead of "Jerusalem". Hystorians and scientifics confirmed that it´s ok to say Jerusalem too- Hence Joseph Smith Jr, Alma and the BOM were right.
@dorisfenella Sir, where the dss scrolls were writen is of no concern. It is what is writen in side of them. And it is not writen that Jesus was born in Jerusalem as you cliamed. This in now way prove that the book of mormon is true as you claim. LDS would be the first to jump on this if it was true. Ask your Bishop. The Dead Sea Scrolls are simply copies of the Bible and are 97% accurate to what you hold in your hand.
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What it´s seemed to be a contradiction in the Book of Mormon, in the end resulted to be a proof that the BOM is true.
Joseph Smith knew that the Bible says Belen, but he translated what it was written in the golden plates. Many years later (after his death) the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls revealed the same information and hystorians explained why.
dorisfenella 1 day ago
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MORMONS SAY JESUS WAS BORN IN JERUSALEM AND NOT BETHLEHEM. ITS IN THE BOOK OF MORMON -Alma 7:10. DOES THIS PROVE THE BOOK OF MORMON IS TRUE OR A BIG PROOF OF A LIE? A DIFFERENT JESUS?
123adrspain 2 days ago
Research Romans 7:1-2 and Matthew 22:24-30.
GreaterSolomon 3 days ago
Research Romans 7:1-2 and Matthew 22:24-30.
GreaterSolomon 3 days ago
it is funny that lds put this up. if you pay close attention she ask where should we worship.how does Jesus respond? He tells her its not where but in spirit and in truth. so you do not need to be part of lds for salvation as they claim, you are suppose to worship in spirit and in truth because that is a true worshiper and it is how the Father wants it. read John 4:19-26. it is clear to see.
123adrspain 1 month ago
Jeanneim76 - What does James 2:20, 26 mean to you? It is true. By his grace we are saved. But we must put forth an effort to keep the commandments, learn of Him and be like Him. Would you expect to be given something so precious and bought with such price for nothing? How can you know Him and be like Him if you don't learn and strive to be like Him?
LorryBorry7 9 months ago
sure you can be like Him and strive to be like him. he was a great example of how man should treat man but it don't buy you a ticket into heven. you can not ever re-pay Jesus back for what He has given to us with any amount of works. We are all sinners. So if you helped every man on earth out and was nice to everyone, you are still a sinner and it is only through grace that your sins are forgiven.
123adrspain 1 month ago
The Word of God shows how to see through false prophets. In studying the Bible I learned that the gospel is this: That Christ came into the world, died for our sins and was resurrected in 3 days. We are saved by grace, not by works. This is what Christ taught, anything outside of Gods word is a false doctrine.
jeanniem76 10 months ago
@jeanniem76 Faith without works is dead.
Works is good as a consequence of faith, this is LDS doctrine.
We do works because God had asked us and we love him.
dorisfenella 7 months ago
But it aint gonna buy you a ticket into heven. There is only one thing that can let you into the kingdom and that is His grace. And by the way since your so big on doing what the Lord has asked you to do.What are your thought when he asked not to add or take away from His doctrine?
123adrspain 1 month ago
@123adrspain First of all when you said "when he asked not to add or take away from His doctrine"
I think that you are implying a fallacie. Hence I can´t answer such a question.
dorisfenella 1 month ago
@dorisfenella sure you can, you just dont want to or know how. for example of not giving the full spectrum of His Gosple the BOM cant even get the birth place correct. Alma 7:10 – “And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers…”
Matthew 2:1 – “Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea…” sounds like fallacie to you now?
123adrspain 1 week ago
@123adrspain No, according to you who wrotte the Book of Mormon and when?
dorisfenella 5 days ago
@dorisfenella so are you saing you agree with the person who wrote the BOM that Jesus was born in Jerusalem and not Bethelehem? Now you know why christans do not consider mormons christans. and by the way, at the local WARD on christmass the show they put on they were telling the story of Jesus as born in Bethelehem. You know the dvd the play for everyone. So which is it?
123adrspain 5 days ago
@123adrspain Do you think the BOM was written by Joseph Smith Jr in the IXX century ?
Mormons are christians too. Are more christians than many so called christians, they live their gospel, they not only speak about it.
dorisfenella 5 days ago
@dorisfenella No where did i write the words Joseph Smith. i asked you if you agree with the person who wrote the BOM that Jesus was born in Jerusalem and not Bethelehem. Read it again. but is typical mormon response that has no merit or does not want to answer the question. ANSWER THE QUESTION MORMON.
123adrspain 5 days ago
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@123adrspain Do you think the BOM was written by Joseph Smith Jr in the IXX century ?
Look I am asking you.
dorisfenella 4 days ago
@123adrspain I need to know that first to answer. There´s no fallacie there.
dorisfenella 4 days ago
@dorisfenella i do not understand your response. what are you asking me?
123adrspain 4 days ago
@123adrspain “And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers…”
That is fine. I would like to know who do you think wrote this according to you.
dorisfenella 4 days ago
@dorisfenella Alma
123adrspain 4 days ago
@dorisfenella i will answer your question but do not in any way agree with it. It wa writen by Alma found in the book of mormon. Jesus was born in bethelehem. If he wasn't then explain the prophects in the old testement that said He would be born in bethelehem. Mormon worship a jesus born in a different place is whorshiping a different Jesus that bible based christans worship. If i worship a jesus that was born in china would that be the same Jesus of the bible? NO.
123adrspain 4 days ago
@dorisfenella denying his birth place, his Jewish ancestry, and his death on the cross. If I were to teach these things about Jesus Christ, they would be enough to define a different (false) Jesus Christ.
123adrspain 4 days ago
@123adrspain I told you that is not incorrect and I see you don´t want to answer. What are you afraid of? Anyway you should watch documentaries of the Dead Sea Scrolls, that confirms it was right.
What it seemed a contradiction is in fact, a great proof that the Book of Mormon is true.
dorisfenella 4 days ago
@dorisfenella wtf are talking about? i answered your question and told you it was writen by Alma. wtf? what does the dead sea scrolls contradict. the dead sea scrolls are copies of the old testment. "scrolls found near the dead sea" wtf. how does that confirm the book of mormon. dude you make no sense. typical mormon response "no sense". what does that have to do with mormons beliving Jesus was born in Jerusalam?
123adrspain 4 days ago
@123adrspain LOL Don´t be upset with me. I don´t have nothing to do, nor Joseph, nor Alma with the dead sea scrolls, in them it is written that Jesus was born in Jerusalem.
Simple coincidence?
dorisfenella 2 days ago
@dorisfenella i am not upset but lets make sure we are all on the same page. "dead sea scrolls" are copies of the old testement that is in the bible. the scrolls were studdied and found that the copies found near the dead sea were 97% the same as in the bible. so that is to say if it is a copy of what we have in our hands then i can look in my hand bible and find it. it is not there. so where in the old testement does it say he was born in jerusalem. what book should i look up.
123adrspain 2 days ago
@dorisfenella I just researched Mormonism Research Ministry and found an article "Was Jesus born at Jerusalem"? By Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson and there is no mention of your claims of dead sea scrolls. I also researched findings of dead sea scrolls and no finding of your claims. I think you are confused and maybe are simply listening to a narrator.Keep in mind what you are claiming would send shock waves through out LDS and it would be big news. No such out burst has ever been displayed.
123adrspain 2 days ago
@123adrspain I am done talking to you, I saw scientific videos that supports the conclusions I gave you. I am not surprising you refuse to believe it. It must be shocking.
LOL
and bye, seriously make a better research.
dorisfenella 2 days ago
@dorisfenella Why are you the only mormon who is screaming "here is the proof to the whole Jerusalem thing, I saw it on T.V." LDS has never said what you are saying. Your Bishop should set it straight for you. I am sorry, i am not trying to offend you but facts are facts.
123adrspain 2 days ago
@123adrspain And my real language is spanish and I am a woman.
lol
dorisfenella 2 days ago
@dorisfenella it is no surprise you like to make false claims and then pout like a child when proven wrong...got to love them mormons......lol
123adrspain 2 days ago
@123adrspain Say whatever you act like an inmature kid.
dorisfenella 1 day ago
@dorisfenella But what about your t.v.show that proves i was wrong? your just pissed i proved you wrong. Mormons worship a false jesus. Not the Jesus who was born in Bethlehem but some guy named jesus who was born in that area. What a joke.
123adrspain 1 day ago
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dorisfenella 2 days ago
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@123adrspain "typical mormon response "no sense"
Stop flip flopping.
What it´s seemed to be a contradiction in the Book of Mormon, in the end resulted to be a proof that the BOM is true.
Joseph Smith knew that the Bible says Belen, but he translated what it was written in the golden plates. Many years later (after his death) the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls revealed the same information and hystorians explained why. Go watch that video It´s correct to say Jesus was born in Jerusalem too.
dorisfenella 2 days ago
@123adrspain Listen I don´t remember all the details but the conclusion resulted to be a shock for antimormons who were spreading the same allegation than you now. I think you are not well informed .
If the DSS were only a copy of the Bible, there it would have been written "Belen"
instead of "Jerusalem". Hystorians and scientifics confirmed that it´s ok to say Jerusalem too- Hence Joseph Smith Jr, Alma and the BOM were right.
dorisfenella 2 days ago
@dorisfenella Sir, where the dss scrolls were writen is of no concern. It is what is writen in side of them. And it is not writen that Jesus was born in Jerusalem as you cliamed. This in now way prove that the book of mormon is true as you claim. LDS would be the first to jump on this if it was true. Ask your Bishop. The Dead Sea Scrolls are simply copies of the Bible and are 97% accurate to what you hold in your hand.
123adrspain 2 days ago
Is this video promoted by the LDS church?
chocohalic66 1 year ago