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  • thumbs up if you came here just to post gt5 is much better

    pulgar arriba si viniste aqui solo para postear que gt5 is mucho mejor

  • @deadmau5suckz epic fail

  • Sell and buy cheap cars on ForzaCarCentre for FREE with no

    phee and for unlimeted time. just put the car, price and your

    gamertag in a comment on my channel and wait for sale!

  • have it WOOT people say its a good game but i suck at it

  • forza 3 is so good looking =D

    i love how dirty the roads are and the rendering of the cars surface, nice and glossy.

    a very classy game =)

  • It's so exclusive that I can find prolly 50+ more of this TV Spot...Hell, I have my own!

  • The only thing that I complain is why they (turn 10) developed the r8 with another rims in place the ones showed on this video???? the R8 v12 rims are cool but the r8 v8 rims are awfull, they suck. Also some cars need an update to correct the gear shifting like the peugeot 908, it should be a paddle shift animation not a lever shifting.

  • its pretty cool in FM3 you can open up your door and walk on the race track, stand by people in the audience, have lemonade, meet other walking players, etc....

  • How do u do that of walking toward the ppl??? and/or opening the dors of the car?

  • Stupendo video! Gioco un po' difficile ma bellissimo!!!!

  • such an epic add

  • 0:49 im black

  • ffs dont buy it got it today and it sux only thing u do is drive around for 3 laps WOHO ! -_-'

  • Did You Get To Level 50? So You Have To Do 9 Laps On Nurburing?

  • @halocefan34 Easy as pie. Endurance races are my strong point

  • Great tv spot for Forza 3. Damn, Microsoft sure knows how to market their games. Their Xbox marketing is untouchable, you guys should check out the Mass Effect, Halo 3 and Gears of War 3 ads. Sony should take notes. Only a couple more days for the definite racing game of this generation.

  • @serialkiller77 You mean like a year when the REAL simulator comes out...OH YEAH

  • wow

  • GT5 sucks

  • @nisherpu Hey let me know if you say that November 2nd.

  • The only thing that I am going online for in Forza 3 is the auction house.

    The online races are cool but most of the time it's only a race with three or four cars, not the whole pack of eight

  • get forza 2 then up to 16 players in one race and the auction house.

  • You guys are so inconsiderate it took a long ass time to make this video and you sat down on your lazy asses and watched it so don't complain about something you watched willingly you incompatant fools, acting so immature like fucking idiots just shut the fuck up and enjoy the shit and if you got something bad or ignorant to say don't comment the VIDEO!

  • I got goosebumps..

  • That's a very mature rebuttal

  • I DONT GIVE A FUCK !!!!

  • 0:29 I want his fucking garage...

  • You can only compare and comment if you have owned and have history of both titles, which I do.

    I still own my PSX and original Gran Turismo. I still play it sometimes.

    GT2 was awesome too, the 2 disc model had so much depth, the Used Car Dealer changed daily and I used to always check it for bargains.

    GT3 was OK but very arcade.

    I have all the Concept releases and the early look at the R35 GTR was impressive with it's seamless 7 sp auto.

    GT4 was good still no tyre marks.

    Then came Forza..

  • I used to be a GT / Playstation fanatic but Forza all the way now, it is Technically Perfect and nothing will top it

  • aha, i love all the Gt faggots that watch our Forza videos, and comment, u obviously like forza more or ud be watching ur gran turismo videos... ahahaha. faggots , love how the new ps3 came out befdore GT.

  • Lol you couldent be farther from the truth fanboy. I just enjoy pissing off all you xbox fanboys with your shitty arcade racing game that wont make it past 2010

  • @pentium6xx Well now, it's 2010, and well, no GT5...

    I do have to say though, while Turn10 did a good job, the game has really annoying glitches and bugs that makes it seem like they didn't even test out the game when they finished..

    And still no active aero, which is one of the major parts of the Bugatti Veyron (stability at high speed and handling) and other cars with active aero.

  • @Neonspinnazz30 I don't see your point, GT5 IS coming out.

  • @pentium6xx

    I know, and when it comes out it'll be the thing...or a huge flop...but knowing Polyphony...it'll be big...

  • @pentium6xx My point was that really some people oversee the problems that these games have, past GTs didn't have damage nor tire marks and the physics suck. Turn10 made large errors with Forza and some smaller errors that they have no intention on fixing...

    Lets put it like this, GT5 will finalize my decision to buy a PS3. I'm a dedicated racing game fan and if GT5 destroys Forza, I just may sell my Xbox and go PS3 (especially if TDU2 is on both platforms, that'll sweeten the deal too)

  • @Neonspinnazz30 I have a feeling you wont be alone in that. I both systems and like both but the PS3 will always be no. 1 to me.

  • lol your video sucks and you suck at forza.

  • u gt fans just mad b/c u guy suposted to get the game as soon as the ps3 came out. years later and we are still waiting.

    FUCK GT

    FM3 ALL THE WAY

  • I agree, I own and have played All GT's and converted to Forza 1 on the first play. I have GT5P and it drives nothing like FM2 or 3 for that matter.

    The sheer amount of customisation in Forza leaves GT for dead.

  • Ahahahahahaha.... Forza 3 will be dead by 2010 fanboy.

  • All I'm saying is at least Forza is actually releasing its titles, unlike Gran Turismo. Just saying.

  • ? so forza is just money hungry.

  • ok idiot but what your saying is false let me point it out to you fanboys. gt4 was released then fm1 then tourist trophy (Polyphony Digital) then fm2, gt4hd, gt5p, gt portable, so you say polyphony has'nt released any games they released 4 games during that time turn 10 only released 3 so fuck off idiots.

  • YOU ALL sucks.

    fuckin kids and fanboys bashing at each other, get life faggots. do you have sex with your console ?

  • i think this says something that they have to record real cars for their commercials (exept the last one which clearly wasn't) unlike Gran Turismo's commercials which display their fine simulated cars.

  • Sony & PShit sucks

  • P-shit or PS-hit? sarcasim right?

  • GT5 sucks

  • Pentium6xx & nisherpu = Trolls

  • whoop just pre-ordered :)

    goodbye degree :(

  • everyone just shut the fuck up.

  • You can suck it. PS3's are epic fails.

  • Hey atleast they last longer than 3 fucking months then guess what you get a nice $200 microsoft paper weight. Fanboy

  • what xbox are you buying that lasts 3 months?

  • i was telling the fanboys to shut up. why pay 50 bucks to micro$oft when you can play for free? in other words, fuck you.

  • You are an epic fail.

  • I love to soak in the jealousy of the PS3 fannies, that they don't have anything and I don't think will EVER have anything to match Forzas level of simulation, interaction, quality, handling and depth!

  • are u retarded or have been living under a rock for the past 10 years.... its called gran turismo and they have been making racing sims since ps1 i love forza i have 2 and cant wait for this one, i also have the gran turismos, gran turismo 5 is going to be 10 times better then this i am not being biased at all i own both ps3 and 360

  • Forza sucks dude.

  • You are an epic fail.

  • my granma has better insults fanboy

  • all the fun of a stone block with wheels awesome

  • Flame War anyone?

  • Needs more cowbell.

  • lol

    And one last thing...

    Need I mention, between the two games, the fact that EVERY car in Forza 3 has FULL damage on all parts as well as the body? How about the fact that ALL cars are FULLY customizable in every aspect- tuning, upgrades, even the paint jobs- you can create WHATEVER you want on ANY car in the game. Oh, and the auction house/store front... lol GT is a great game and all, but it simply doesn't hold up to Forza. Sorry, kiddos.

  • Full Damage? i bet those same wreck graphics everytime sure is fun, And hey how about you roll the fucking car over and drive, tottally possible u know. Yeah you got paintjobs n mods n such, i guess to keep it from being piss boring after a week. Have a nice day Fan Boy.

  • We'll see how you feel when GT5 comes out. LOL Roll the car over and drive? Well, for one, that's possible in real life, but then again, if you have the damage on simulation, you're not going anywhere very fast, if at all.

  • I cant wait tbh, all you forza fanboys will get put in your place. And only a complete fucking idiot such as yourself would drive a car after its flipped over.

  • lol

    What, you've never rolled a car in real life before? I have... On the race track. :)

    Have fun playing GT when it finally does come out. Maybe I'll see you on there some day. :)

  • I bet you have, dumbass.

  • Yup. I have- I got spun out- slid about 40 feet, tires caught while I was sideways and rolled me over. Landed on my tires and came to a stop. It screwed up the rear suspension something awful- bent all 4 control arms/mounts and bent a shock, and I lost one of the springs out of the spring cup. Those spring cables sure come in handy- keeps the spring with the car even if it gets knocked out.

    Pretty scary to be honest... Regardless, the car moved back to the pits under it's own power.

  • spare me your life story this isnt a soap box fanboy. i TL;DR'd anyway i need not to learn about your lame ass storys.

    If you reply one more time, Guess what youre admiting your a huge xbox fanboy. Make a desicion

  • I'll reply however much I want... But I'm sure you'd just love for me to stop owning that ass, huh? You may need to get some stitches. ;)

    Oh no- I replied... I'm such a fanboy, as if replying had anything to do with it. I've played all there is to play so far on Gran Turismo... I make my opinions and judgments based on that and real life experience... And you make retarded comments about a game you've never even played... Which one sounds like a fanboy-ish thing to do? LOL Have fun. :)

  • Again, I could actually care less about you and your life storys. Hey dont be calling yourself a fag now, thats just not fair. a faggot xbox fanboy??? haaaa

  • Uh... Uh... Oh no... Uh... I can't come back with a legitimate argument- DEFENSE MODE.

    IF YOU RESPOND TO THIS YOU'RE JUST CALLING YOURSELF A FANBOY.

    lol You're such a moron.

  • The majority here thinks your a Idiot =] And im not the one who just called himself a fag haha nice one..

  • Are you some sort of homophobe? Oh wait, you can't be, because I was just doing you in the ass with your terrible arguments... Unless, of course, you hate yourself. :O

    The majority here? Oh, what's that, a fanboy and his friend? Yeah... You can think I'm an idiot all you want. I *know* otherwise. :)

  • I find it incredibly hilarious that your defending fags. I think im right, Youre a huge faggot Xbox fanboy.

  • Defending fags? Since when? I'm just asking if you're a homophobe... Because you would be one huge hypocrite if you were. ;)

  • So how much money do you make suckin dick all day long.

  • Wait... So gay is synonymous with prostitution? Jeez, you keep making yourself look dumber and dumber.

    BTW- I'm not gay. :)

    So how long have you been a Satanist?

  • In your case, yeah.

    hmm my 666? Its a cool number bro, gets attention from simple people like yourself.

  • Cool number? It's a number- how is it cool? lol You're such a tool. You must be about 15

  • I explained it, you should pay attention next time, fanboy.

  • To all GT5 fanboys your game isnt out yet so you know nothing plus you probably dont have an xbox so when forza comes out you wont experience the awesome. Simple

    Ps Go away and rant about your game on a gt5 video

  • thats how it is

    i´m really gonna laugh when forza 3 comes out and those gt fanboys only play there shitty gt5p!

  • that was some horrible frame rate, but the graphics are hot. i actually like forza because of the amount of customization. physics, though not quite on the same league as gt5, are still superb.

  • The Real Driving Simulator

    watch?v=9yFJFIqx2ek

  • Lol Gt has endorsements too.. way before forza did

  • To bad its for gay xbox

  • Read my comment again. Read it alot of times then read the last part really slowly. Then please reply again.

  • You say Forza 3 has 8 cars on tracks & that's sucks.

    I say STFU,8 Cars are better than 6.

  • Us in america got to wait 2 weeks. 27 oct.. WHY!!!!

    I love forza but they should have got a better car than the R8..

    but that is just what i think.

  • lol australia has got it :)

  • I really don't care in how many damage effects they are working because I never crash! Ha!

  • why do only the gt player watch forza vid and write stupid comments? why do you gt fanboys want to crash forza down? you have gt for ps 3 and we have forza for xbox 360? are you afraid that forza could beat gt or why do you write all these comments like "gt´s way better" etc. you´ve never played the full-version of gt5 and your dreaming since 5 years, and forza 3 will come out in just 1 week!

  • *Applause*

  • Need for speed shift is much more realistic but the forza series is a classic hit since day one soooooo theirs a catch 22 to everything i guess.

  • need for speed? more realistic? where do you live? cartoon world??

  • read what you've just said!!!

  • ok heres the thing...we were having the whole whats better...gran turismo 5 or forza motorsport back when forza 2 was about to be released. Here is the reason why forza 2 and 3 are BOTH better than gran turismo 5....THEY ARE AVAILABLE (or at least will be 5 days from now.) Either way, ive played both and can say from experience that forza is much closer to the actual feel of driving a car on a race track without a doubt. I used to love gran turismo...until i played forza 1

  • i have both the ps3 and xbox 360, so i am going to buy both forza 3 and GT5, they will both be great, graphically gt5 will be better, but in customization, its lookin like forza will be better, (plus theres a whole auction house thing witch is hella dope) but gt5 will have NASCAR and WRC,, and it will have about 500 more cars, they will both be great games though.

  • You havent played GT5, you played a 3 year old demo.

    GT5 WILL own forza in everyway, i cant wait to rub it in your fanboy faces when it does.

    You should state some reasons why forza is better, otherwise its just your opinion.

  • LOL

    You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? Neither game is going to definitively be better than the other- it's all opinion. The reasons why I think Forza is a better game is just my opinion, just like the reason you think GT is better, so there is no "otherwise its just your opinion".

    You haven't played Forza 3.

    The difference between 1080p native and 1080p upscaled from 720p is minuscule- there is basically no advantage.

  • LOL it is not minuscule what are you smoking, unless youre poor and dont have a HDTV. more pixels=better picture you idiot.

  • Regardless of which one "wins" or "loses", Forza 3 certainly isn't just some run of the mill racer like SHIFT or some crap. Play the game and maybe you'll understand.

    And yes, I do have an HD setup, and I know, first and, that there is only a minuscule difference between 1080p native and 1080p upscaled from 720p. I've seen the difference first hand, so it doesn't really matter what crap you're trying to spew.

  • i stated a few reasons...i will state them again just for you. 1) Forza is available for purchase 2) forza is closer to the actual thing (i can say this from experience, I have played gt5 prologue, forza 3 demo, and have 20ish hours of seat time on a race track...not much, but more than nothing). So unless the handling in the full version of gt5 is way different than every other gran turismo and gt5 prologue, it wont feel as close to the real thing in terms of handling feel as forza has been

  • I bet you drive the same car, to make a real comparsion, Find a car thats actually in the game and see if it acts the same, your opinion doesnt mean anything.

  • try over 1000 hrs of seat time. forza is good but when you make claims that its better then you obviously are a kid that needs to worry more about school than a game.

  • Forza is better in every conceivable way, maybe except for graphics. Gameplay, Community, Longevity, Customisation, Tuning, Painting, Auction House. Forza is not a car ad like GT is!

    Before you blow me away as a fan boy,I still own my PS1, PS2 and PS3. I have the original of every GT game ever made - EVER! But it only took one game of Forza and I went straight out to buy an Xbox and have not looked back since!

  • lol its an arcade game, you might as well be playing nfs. I can understand how boring those cars can get so they have to be customize from keeping the whole game from being a piss boring xbox racing game. GT4 is still a popular game believe it or not. besides by 2010 forza will get killed by GT5 end of story.

    Tuning is in GT.. lol idiot. Community? lol xbox live is full of 13 year old faggots, no thanks.

  • if you don't look back to gt5 in march 2010 you will be labeled as a fanboy of sheer ignorance. now listen gt5 features

  • Cars- Over 950 Cars COURSES- Over 20 Locations- Over 70 Variations PHYSICS- New Physics- Overturning of cars- Damage- Movable objects on the course- The newest Hybrid cars and electric cars Arcade Mode- Single Player- Split Screen 2 Player GT Mode- World Map- My Garage- Car Dealer- Tuning Shop- Championship Race- License Test ONLINE- Open Lobby- Text / Voice Chat- Private Room- Online Photo Album- Online Replay Album- Export of replays to YouTube. also

  • Photo Mode- Photo Drive- Photo Stage Gran Turismo TV- Improved UI- Export of video to the PSP- Progressive downloading

  • And you hope they will get it right, remember PD have no history of network play and chat. They couldn't get it to work in GT4 which is why it was so late.

    Network play in GT5P is lame and pure arcade.

    Seriously, Forza 1 had network play and XBL!

    FM2 rocked it.

    FM3 will blow it sky high with internet shop fronts, full blows tuning auction house, you name it.

    And again, I will buy and own GT5, I really hope they get it right, but I'm really not holdingh my breath.

  • the online in gt5 is completly diffrent from gt5 prologue the creator allready cleared that . he also said gt5 will have visual modification of the vehicles. and those aero parts will affect the cars handling and performance.

  • Theyve been doing that since forza 1 Mr. fanboy.

  • I think this is why that I, as a GT fan, am very skeptical about GT5 in these areas. This has been in the Forza series since the first one and we're finally seeing this a half a decade later in Gran Turismo.

    So you have to understand why people are skeptical. I think that with the time PD has had, they can deliver. At the same time I really hope they play Forza 3 because it is now the benchmark in console racing sims.

  • i graduated college 4 years ago with a degree in mechanical engineering, but thanks for your thoughts. I didnt say I have a vast amount of experience (I actually pointed out how little I have), I said that Forza, to ME, feels more like the time that I have spent on a race track than Gran Turismo does. If you disagree, fine...you dont have to be an arrogant prick about it.

  • and who are you calling a fanboy, i owned gran turismo 1-4 and played through 98% of gran turismo 4 and loved every second of it before i even played forza. I played forza 1 at target one day and went out and bought an xbox and forza 1 because the driving felt much more realistic. Microsoft has realeased Forza 1, 2, and 3 in between releases of gt4 and gt5. I dont care how good a game will be, if it isnt out, its no good to me.

  • lol you got all gold medals on every single lincense? thats some achievment, im not believing until you show a screenshot. The fact is NEITHER can replicate actual racing so the argurment whether which one is more realistic is pointless, its all a matter of opinion.

  • I cant remember, I havent played it since I bought forza1...but i remember being at 98% and I think the only race that i had left was either 24 hours of the ring or 24 hours of le mans. And no I cant prove it because I traded in my ps2 stuff. You keep saying its just a matter of opinion....so leave it at that and let people have their opinions. Quit assuming that your opinion is more valid than everyone else's opinion.

  • The problem with Gran Turismo 5 is that Polyphony Digital has taken an excellent road racer and tried to make it a jack of all trades... Road racing, rally racing, NASCAR, etc... Overall graphics on par with Forza, but with slightly better lighting and shading, but lacking in other areas like the toned down rear view mirrors... Damage modeling only on 170 cars, all of the race cars. PD is just fighting with Forza at this point, adding features T10 has had for quite some time.

  • youre comparing a finished game to a 3 year old demo. and GT5 is 1080p forza is 720p so its obvious GT5 will look much better.

    and Theres going to be damage on all 960 cars... Some have "premium damage" the rest have regular damage.

  • The whole idea of "premium damage" and "regular damage" is a half-assed way of doing it.

    And as far as the games themselves go, what with physics and so on, Forza has always been reviewed as the better, with more realistic physics, and I agree, having played all the Gran Turismo games, and all the Forza games since the launch of both.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Gran Turismo is going to be bad by any means, I'm just saying Forza 3 is going to be better, in my opinion.

  • You seem to be forgetting... GT5 is not even close to being finished.

    i wouldent pay attention to prolouge id focus on GT4 since it was a full release.

    You cant say it has lesser realistic physics without pointing out one flaw why it is.

    GT4 had great reviews.. i dont know what youre talking about. it was one of only two games that could use 1080i on PS2

  • Oh really?

    joystiq (.) com/2009/10/13/gran-turismo-5s­-yamauchi-we-could-release-it-­any-time-we-want/

  • So? that doesnt mean anything since their not going to.

  • That means everything because you said "GT5 is not even? close to being finished". The only reason they're delaying it is because they want to avoid the holiday rush... Forza 3, Borderlands, Modern Warfare 2, Uncharted 2, Assassin's Creed 2, Left 4 Dead 2, GTA IV The Ballad of Gay Tony, etc, etc...

    Money is tight right now, and with that many AAA titles coming out, Polyphony Digital is better off delaying it- as they did. The launch is currently set for March of 2010.

  • no, you see you just made up complete bullshit. Money isnt tight for japan are you stupid? If you read that little link you gave me it contradicts your statment idiot, nice job.

  • 1) Money is tight EVERYWHERE right now, not just the US. Pay a bit more attention to the news.

    2) Money isn't the key factor- in March they will be competing with no new games on the market- if they released it now, as they very well could, then they would be competing with 7+ AAA games.

    3) The whole point of me posting that link was your comment about GT5 being "nowhere near complete".

    Grasping for straws, are we? lol

  • lol not compared to the US.

    Did you even read the link you sent me? it explained why its being delayed, and you say something completely different, why is that?

    BTW all those games you mentioned... arent even new.

  • Ugh... Jesus Christ... You must be mentally retarded or something. What don't you understand?

    The game is FINISHED- otherwise he would have never said they could release it now. They're holding off til they can get a chance to have the spotlight all to themselves. You'd have to be a total mental midget not to see right through his little "explanation", because the launch was originally planned for THIS holiday season.

    And the games I mentioned.... Are just as new as GT5.

  • Im sorry i dont put up with xbox fanboys and their rediculous claims. The game ISNT finished you retard. Theyre NOT holding it, Retard. Yeah? games get delayed all the time man its nothing new.

    No, they arent. read the link you gave me idiot, you keep contradicting yourself.

  • Also, like I've said numerous times already, I'm not saying it's a bad game. It's going to be fantastic, and there are certainly going to be things in it that are better than Forza- for example, WRC. Forza doesn't have that. It's not going to sway my opinion over which game is better, because if I buy Gran Turismo or Forza, I'm looking to do road racing, not rally or NASCAR.

  • I've played GT5P and I've played the Forza 3 demo, and I can say, without a doubt that Forza 3 has better physics than GT5P. If GT5P is a good sample of what's to come with GT5, then Forza 3 will have better physics than GT5.

    And again, with the resolution- GT5 won't look any crisper or clearer because of it's 1080p native. As far as graphics go, it has Forza beat in 2 places. Lighting and shading. Other than that, Forza looks better overall- especially when it comes to scenery.

  • Point out flaws in the physics please...

  • I never said it had flaws, tard. I said Forza has always been reviewed as having better physics. You're saying GT5 has better physics... How much sense would it make if I were to ask you to "point out the flaws in the physics please"?

    Oh... That's right... None. There is a difference between being better and more realistic and having flaws.

  • Stop using that reviews bullshit, I dont care what some game website says about the demo. So youre saying theres nothing wrong with GT physics, why are forzas better?

  • Stop using what reviews bullshit? I'm just pointing out the simple fact that a majority of reviewers agree that Forza has more realistic physics than Gran Turismo.

    There is nothing wrong with GT physics- they're just not as good as Forza's. Do you not understand the fact that something can be good, while another thing is better, without there necessarily being something wrong with it? The cars in Forza handle more realistically. Stop grasping for straws- you're just wasting your time.

  • " they're just not as good as Forza's." typical fanboy comment. you cant even explain why that is, its merely your opinion.

    "The cars in Forza handle more realistically." No, No they dont. you cant prove this either.

  • Grasping at straws, yet again.

    My explanation as to why Forza's physics are better is they handle more realistically. The cars in GT5P are not as responsive as those in Forza, of which, I know how responsive REAL cars are considering MY race experience, plus having been to dozens of autocross races. The responsiveness of the vehicles and the thresholds for traction are MUCH more realistic in Forza than in GT5P and any previous GT game.

    How's that for an explanation?

  • Your race experiance? ahahaha . You just dont know how to drive a car in GT thats all, dont blame gt cuz you suck at it.

    responsive?? as in steering? acceleration? braking? Theyres different settings to change that completely to any variation. (GT4)

    Thresholds for traction... you mean TCS? its an adjustable feature idiot. it can be altered like any other real car with traction control.

    You float over bumps in forza, makes me laugh

  • Before I go, I'd like to recap.

    1) You say GT5 isn't finished- I respond with an interview where the lead dev himself says otherwise. You continue to deny it.

    2) I respond with said interview for the fact that they themselves said it's done- I never said that the reason they give in that interview was the truth.

    3) You somehow think that posting reasons why one game is better than the other is fact, yet you continue to ignore the reasons.

  • 1) The game is "finished" but hey guess what its still being refined

    2) the game is "done" but hey guess what theyre still worked on

    3) i merely defended GT from all you xbox fanboys.

    4) You do NOT have the majority. (since the fucking game isnt out to be reveiwed)

    5) You make me laugh fanboy. Have a nice fanboyish day.

  • 4) I state my opinion about the two games, an opinion that is shared by most, including reviewers, and you ignore that simply because it doesn't agree with you. It doesn't matter, yet, I have no doubt that you would refer back to those same reviewers regarding different games and subjects (I've seen your type many times).

    5) Yes, race experience- I have driven race cars on tracks, competing against other cars. I know how cars should handle, and I know how both games handle.

  • lol

    Yup I was right... I was arguing with a fanboy... And fanboy is synonymous with retard...

    That's the problem with arguing on the internet- everyone's always right, and everyone is always wrong, because regardless of what I say, what I tell you, what proof I show you, you're always going to think your right.

    I'm done arguing with this wall (you).

  • Youre just a pissy xbox fanboy. 360 blows anyway i hope you like $200 microsoft paper weights

  • LOL

    And my goal has been achieved... Congrats, bud- you've proven to everyone that reads your comment that you're nothing more than a fanboy (something you try to pull with everyone that disagrees with you, no doubt)... I very much enjoy both my PS3 and my Xbox, thank you. :)

    And to discredit your word even more, I've thoroughly enjoyed every single GT game out there (except for, as I said, the new PSP title).

  • Your goal? im honored, I bet that made your day huh, real exciting youtube conversation, You need a life. YOURE a fanboy, fanboy, dont deny it.

  • Yup. My goal. After arguing with a wall for 20 minutes (you), I realized the only thing left to do was to thoroughly prove that you're nothing but a fanboy.

    I'd get to deleting comments, if I were you. :)

    I own both PS3 and 360... I enjoy both very much- the PS3 IS the best Blu-Ray player for the money, and it has some freakin' awesome games, too. Some fanboy I am... I'm just a disgrace to all fanboys everywhere- owning the competition's console... Jeez... :( lol What a retard.

  • I think you put a tad too much effort into these reponses, gives a sort of desperate vibe, But whatever i dont care.

  • Desperate? Oh yeah, I'm so desperate. lol I'm sorry you don't have the mental capacity to keep up with me...

    Oh yeah, I'm such a dirty, dirty fanboy, aren't I? ;) You're wrong, just get over it. lol

  • oh yeah, Youre a fanboy.

  • Well, I'm off to go play Forza 2- yeah, that's right Forza 2. Still addicting even though I've had the game since launch. Even the mighty GT couldn't manage to hold my attention that long- GT3 was my first game for the PS2. :)

  • Tboninator - The self proclaimed xbox fanboy.

  • yeah, and i can't find my comment he answered to xD

  • It's not worth it. If you're defending this 'tard in any way, you're wasting everyone's time.

  • i think u r wasting ur time writing all those obsolete comments!

    becuz gt5 is still better, fanboy :P

  • Oh yeah, and why is that?

    What features does it have that would make me choose it over Forza (though I'll be getting both)? NASCAR? No real interest in NASCAR... And Forza 3 has a couple oval tracks and one stock car from every manufacturer, so I can just do up my own "NASCAR". WRC? I'll take Richard Burns Rally and Dirt, thank you.

  • Nascar is like what 1 Track and 12 cars? get the fuckkkk out of here fanboy

  • because forza 3 has that low poly models ingame and ou can count the 18 vertices of the circle of the headlights

    search google!

  • The fact of the matter is, GT5 offers absolutely no customization. For that fact alone, I would go with Forza... But add on top of it what I and most others feel is a much more realistic driving simulator, then you've got yourself a sale. Go play Forza 2, or 3 when it comes out. If you truly enjoy driving simulators (or racing games in general), you'd be lying if you said you wouldn't enjoy it.

    But regardless, "gt5 is still better" is simply your opinion.

  • forza 2 is a simulator, but forza 3 is really arcade, and gt5 offers customization in the full version

  • You've played Forza 3? D: I'm so jealous.

  • yeah, xD, am living 10km away from cologne (GamesCom)

  • Come back to me when I can paint my cars up like this in GT5. :)

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  • who cares about painting his car, the car looks cheap being painted like that

  • Yup, sure does look cheap. Boy, I would much rather be driving a monochromatic car... Nothing but one color... No creativity at all- that's what I desire. lol