This looks fake in every way. It's disrespectful to all the soldiers who fought at the Somme. If you want to make a movie about WWI, than make it look like it was, horrible, gore, soldiers screaming in agony. And not like a bunch of boyscouts taking a walk in the fucking park!
@narutoboyalex thats what the somme battlefeild was like, on the first day of the battle is was a bright blue sky with sunshine, not the typical mud field with rain.
@WRigGLes96 It is called the Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber. In my opinion it is one of the most haunting and beautiful romantic era pieces ever written. I believe its also played throughout the Vietnam movie Platoon.
WWII was a bit bigger and cost a ton more casualties than WWI did, but WWI was just sensleless slaughter against machine guns and gas with almost no way to defend themselves all to take a single trench then to repeat the process over and over again.
is it just me or does that field not look ruined enough for those two sides to have taken as much time as they should pounding eachother wile building their own trenches?...
are there any other movies about WWI apart from air combat? i got flyboys and ive seen the blue max, but i want a movie that shows the actually battleground. anyone know of any?
If you want a WW1 movie you can watch Passchendaele. Its the only i know that about the Canadian army during WW1. Be foworn though there are only 2 battles in the movie. The beginning and the end. The middle of the movie is bascilly showing the govt. Trying to recruit people and a love story.
all quiet on the western front..its considered one of the greatest films of all time,the 1930 version,not the 1978 remake,which is supposed to be decent.
the movie is innacurate no man's land would have the hell blown out of it no trees no green gas artillery shells exploding causing giant ditches everywhere
ye but this is the first wave at this sector so it wouldnt have been yet and anyway the only areas churned up were the actual trenches at the begining because the shells were aimed there not no mans land common misconception, but still it is cheap but if you watch the battle of the some film you can find it on youtube, its vey accurate
It was the somme, so it took place in 1916 two years into the war. and before the battle took plce there was almost a month of solid shelling of the area. so yea it would have looked ten flavors of fucked up.
@inamonianim It's the Battle of the Somme, where No Mans Land was a green field.
@jakescuba No, it's not the general's fault. Hindsight makes a brilliant general, they did not know how to deal with fortifications, no one at the time did.
@Redheadfury You say that in hindsight the generals were brilliant. If that's the case, why was World War One a series of bloody stalemates? Military beaurocracy kills more soldiers than any number of weapons.
@inamonianim No I didn't say that, I said Hindsight makes a Brilliant general. it's easy to criticise something when you A) weren't there and B) know what was going to happen. If the Generals knew that 60,000 men would die on the first day do you think they would of done it? *sigh* Please learn to understand English.
@Redheadfury So I misunderstood your comment. Is that any reason to be rude? The war lasted 4 years. It simply baffles me that in that time no significant development in military tactics took place.
@inamonianim A massive development took place, creeping bombardments, covering fire, firing arcs, stand to, portable mortars, battlefield medics, automatic weaponry, the use of shot guns... The somme was 1916, only 2 years into the War, and was one of the first major offensives of the war.
no it wouldnt be because actually if there was an area that hadnt seen any action yet like this area in the film the only craters would have been withing 50-100m away from the german trench, whereas most other seens the german line is close and there has been fighting for a long time hence the fucked up ground
Well the 1st Day of the SOmme stands as the worst day in the British army. But the battle went on for months and was a signficant strategic victory. It forced the Germans to yield not only ground but important roads and they had to curtail their Verdun actioons that the French army was able to maul irreperably the German 3rd Army, which also had to fall back and yield important ground.
Also that lessons learned over the SOmme campaign helped to modernise the British army in tactics.
They walked because the british generals thought that the artillery bombardment on the German trenches would wipe the Germans out, so they told the British troops to carry lots of equipment. The soldiers could not physically run with the weight of their equipment
The british generals told them to walk instead of run because they thought the germans were dead, therefore no need to run because they foolishly thought there was no way they could have survived.
Arrogant Generals thinking they were invincibal and unbeatable. Idiots.
@hippy49 thats somewhat true but they also believed the tactic of staying in line and walking fourth was proper well my great great grandfather was in ww1 and thats what he told me so
Fare avanzare a ranghi compatti le truppe contro i nidi di mitragliatrici resterà per sempre nella storia come la più grande forma di idiozia strategica.
The fields around the Somme in July were green and relatively undamaged at the start of the battle. The perception of muddy and annihilated no mans land is slightly misleading, not every battle in WW1 was like that but obviously some were (particularly passchaendale (spelling)).
The flower of youth just wasted away and for what--no significant ground was gained at the Battle of the Somme -- I feel like crying still even though it is ninety years on -- their memory is a fresh as if it had been only days ago. We must try not to forget their sacrifice by earning it each and every day of our lives. They are safe in God's precious kingdom now, eternally at peace==it is we who struggle on with our own demons.
if you know your history you would know that it was normal for the troops to be ordered to walk, and that they would do so. and no mans land will have been grassy fields without shell holes to start off with. duh.
The only thing inaccurate about this is that the 'No Man's Land' between the trenches would have been much more mutilated, destroyed, and filled with dead bodies from previous charges.
French troops were always instructed to charge running to the enemy as much as one can run with 60 pounds of equipment on one's back, and sometimes extra boots of mud around one's legs. Yet, when they reached the barbed wire zone, they became easy targets as well.
As the poilus' saying went: "Tu sors, t'es mort. Tu sors pas, t'es pas mort!"
You kinda need to see the rest of the film, the British soldiers were told that all the Germans were dead and that they would be able to walk all the way there. The reason they kept walking even as things went wrong was because they obeyed the order to keep in line from higher-ups
I dont blame the germans for shooting they were only doing their duty as soliders I blame the fucking general for being such arseholes for not changing tactics and throwing wave after wave of men to their deah I call it cold murder!
All the allied bombs and artillery were ineffective because the germans were underground in concrete bunkers where they were probably drinking, smoking, playing cards and probably getting sick of the sound of constant shelling! still at least they had sniper rifles to play with
to lebron230793 [bcos my reply button doesnt always work lol]
air support didnt exist...we couldnt use artillery as it was so inaccurate itd probably hit our own men and aircraft had only just come into existence let alone fighting in the air and bombing...IMO the fault lies with the higher ranking top brass officers.
orite!!! i blame them too!! sitting 3 miles behind the front line with no concern for the welfare of the troops in the trenches and used them as pawns in their little war games!!
of course running and scattering is a better idea- lets all just walk in a straight line in front of machine guns so that the gunners don't have to aim they just swing the gun round and fire. The only advantage is that if you make it to the enemy's trench, then you can storm it in mass, one guy's useless if he's on his own.
lol cant beleave they walked its so they can storm the trench at the same time if it was me i wud of run and run and run easy 4 me 2 say but its better then being mowed down then u can at least w8 4 the slow soldiers to catch up.
its just beyond me how someone didnt say....'hang on this doesnt work? maybe we shouldnt walk infront of a machine gun, with an enemy behind it' but even then cowboys were fighting better than this and they were earlier than the first world war. You would think they were fighting with swords. crazy, its worse than thinking about where the universe stops
Probably because like the film says they were all told that all the Germans would be DEAD and it would be a stroll in the park and you could link arms and have a merry day
yeah but why continue walking when you know its gone tits up? all im saying is if i was incharge i would have done things differently. Winning with no losses is the ultimate goal but not then. they just kept throwing more soldiers on the fire!
There were 3 ways of getting across no-mans-land: Run, Walk or Crawl. If they ran they wouldn't have enough energy to fight once they got they, crawling would make them a siting duck for the artillery and walking made them an easy target. so there was no safe way to get across No-Mans-land
the reason their walking is because at the battle of the somme the british thought that they had killed all of the germans from the massive artillary bombardment so they saw no need to run.
Holy gravy ... I knew that early WW1 tactics sucked, but not that much.
Walking in lines, toward the enemy, in completely open terrain. It's offering almost better target for enemy machine gunners and riflemen than on the shooting range.
Well they commanders thought that the bombardment had destroyed the enemy already so they encouraged them to walk in lines so they don't rush and all arrive at the same time, together.
Also,your misrepresentation of the issue is apalling and insulting. You would have people believe that Americans would open up on anything that moved, and yet, you neglect to tell the side about the British going on missions in hostile territory without teling us so that we could watch out for them, or vehicles failing to assume a non-combat stance in friendly territory, or RAF pilots being TOO LAZY TO BRODCAST A FRIENDLY IFF IN OUR AIRSPACE!
And WHY do you keep pulling out the issue of friendly fire? It has nothing to do with the video or anything else here, and it seems to have sprung upon me as an attack at my military as opposed to adressing the issues of your own. Deflection won't work.
I agree with you! I think it adds more realism to the film to have the main character die tho! but i would have liked a happy ending, but i guess there was no happy ending in that battle
my step dad was an extra in this scene as part of the Great War Society.
I dont know what is a more scary prospect, having to go over the top like this or being gased? Everything in this war seems so terrible, it used to scare me when i was little and still does now
lol your a yank!!! Look at your military, im very sure you have heard the term, "FRIENDLY FIRE!!!!" How fuckin dumb were you yanks to blow up tanks that had giant union jacks on top of them during the gulf! Even up until now, your still killing your own men and ours! I would be ashamed of my country for that! How stupid you are you silly twit! These men in the somme were the most brave men around. Hitler said "If I had British Troops and German Officers, I would rule the world". You are a loser!
I'm a yank, am I? I'm from North Carolina, so I'm definately not a yankee. There is a big difference. Even I could tell you what a difference there is between someone from London and someone from Glasgow or Cardiff, and yet you cant tell one from another in my country? I'm not saying you should have known where I was from, I'm just saying that NOT EVERYONE FROM AMERICA IS A YANKEE.
And why the hell did you decide to pull friendly fire out of your ass?
Firstly, the term Yank is used by us British to describe an american! It does not matter where you are from, it is just a term for american.
Secondly, why mock those poor british troop becuase they were ordered to march? It wasnt thier fault! America has a history of friendly fire. Search friendly fire in the gulf, even now you yanks are still killing your own and ours! Why call them cunucks? You obviously dont know that Cunuck is a term for a canadian/french canadian! Good day!
Yeah, well I am telling you that you are using the word incorrectly. Just because you are ignorant doens't make you right. And yes, of course I know that Canuck means Canadian. From another video pertaining to this movie I was lead to believe that the troops were Canadian. If they are British, then my mistake.
About your second point: if your CO tells you and your squad to go for a stroll through the open in front of an MG, do you do it? I would fear for the lives of the men you led.
true what i just don't understand is why can't the world live in peace? if it was like that the world would be much better off but some people think it's best to kill everyone they don't like. why?
good movie but what i don't get from this movie is: why don't they run the fuk outta their body?
pretty much every other movie i saw, book i read and documenterly's i saw on tv they're running like hell. i don't know much about british tactics back then but if anyone knows that would be apreciated.
k i dont understand going over the top. i know they were told to walk in a straight line and not fire and so they would either get shot or make it to the other side and get stabbed or watever. so was there ever a 3rd option of them calling retreat? cuz how did ANYONE survive?
some hid in ditches, some laid on the fall and went back to the trench at night fall.
anyway, the Germans never used the machinbe gun pointing towards the troops because they wouldn't hit that many, so they fired at an angle to hit more of them.
When they next went over the top, the artiliary fired just infront of the british soldiers for the smoke to cover them as they got closer to the enemy trench. 3 of my great grandads fought in ww1 and they all suvived.
Im glad to hear they survived! My great Grandad was working class but worked his way up to captain. He used to go into german trenches and bunkers and clear them out to the best he could. I cant remember the name of it but it sounded dangerous. There were 3 of them that did this together and sometimes they would have to kill up to 7 times thier amount. He sadly died tho on 1 of his last missions and is buried in france. he wasnt given the VC/MC becuase he did not have a plum in his throat!
Thats good that, woking his way to captin, must have taken him a long time though. I think one of my great grandads got the george cross, but my grandad can't find them so i don't know, but i think it is.
Dday was a huge sucsess u fuk head! all british and canadian sectors met little resistance, the americans just had bad luck, the commanders were excellent
Just a note to people watching this clip. Yes, the grass in no mans land is realistic. The seven day bombardment of the German lines was actualy aimed at the German lines, it was also not very concerntrated and spread out all over the place, meaning that it was not very effective. If you have a look at footage or photos of the first day of the Somme offensive you will see that there is much grass in no mans land.
Field marshal Sir Douglas Haig, but after this, all ideas of advancing troops were given to officers out in the field like captins, lieutenants, majors and colonels
yeah, thats true. I think that all the stuff on WW1 is amazing, you understand how soldiers felt and thats what i've always wanted to know, how they've felt before going over the top, thats why i'm writing a book on ww1.
fucking insane bravery! what discaplean! the british army what a goddamm waste of these great man by their goddamm british generals!!! napoleon once marked of the british army:"the best soldiers and junior officers,led by the worst generals!"
too right,a bunch of pencil pushers, never ever got into the shit when they were needed most, instead they sent the poor kids to be slaughtered on there behalf while they were in the back sipping on there brandy. Thats pretty much how it is today aswell
nice movie. The song sounded pretty good with it. And made it more intense. World War one was one of the most horrific wars ever faught. I have family that was in it.
The song is the adagio from Agnus Dei, its been done by a lot of people but its most famously used in the iconic sequence of Platoon. Its wielded to a similarly devestating effect there too.
for what freedom? For France, maybe...but this was not the Nazi Germany of several decades later.
The Germany of post 1918 was a very noble nation.
This war was largely for beneficial gain on the part of the Entente and Central powers.
I'm not too big on the politics of those days...but whatever they faught for, if for nothing, for bad, or good (terms which have no relevance to me except in hollywood) I respect all those who ENDURED. For war brings out the best and worst in humanity.
They fought for imperial prestige more than anything. The gobbling up of land by Germany was just their taking advantage of the war their alliance obliged them to enter.
Those men, British and the Commonwealth troops gave their tomorrow for our today, they didn't take the mick out of each other, they only worked together to see the war through.
This looks fake in every way. It's disrespectful to all the soldiers who fought at the Somme. If you want to make a movie about WWI, than make it look like it was, horrible, gore, soldiers screaming in agony. And not like a bunch of boyscouts taking a walk in the fucking park!
flearis 6 months ago
i hate how this movie only shows action in the last 1 min
guywith3 11 months ago
tht soundtrack aint in the movie
shutitmidget 1 year ago
@shutitmidget: I know. The recording software i had didn't pick up the sound well.
hippy49 1 year ago
Why is there grass?
narutoboyalex 1 year ago
@narutoboyalex thats what the somme battlefeild was like, on the first day of the battle is was a bright blue sky with sunshine, not the typical mud field with rain.
callum1131 1 year ago
what was this song called tht is playing in the background can sum1 plz tell me?
WRigGLes96 1 year ago
@WRigGLes96 It is called the Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber. In my opinion it is one of the most haunting and beautiful romantic era pieces ever written. I believe its also played throughout the Vietnam movie Platoon.
MajorPatMcClelland 1 year ago
WWII was a bit bigger and cost a ton more casualties than WWI did, but WWI was just sensleless slaughter against machine guns and gas with almost no way to defend themselves all to take a single trench then to repeat the process over and over again.
Litterboxer529 1 year ago
this movie is pretty awesome...please watch mine...
marvelousfilms 2 years ago
is this the theme from platoon?
Hhornet38 2 years ago
Yes. Samuel Barbers" Adagio for strings"
This is the choral version
philster61 2 years ago
is it just me or does that field not look ruined enough for those two sides to have taken as much time as they should pounding eachother wile building their own trenches?...
Arc9er 2 years ago
cmon walk it off kid!!!
go2hellnoob 2 years ago
are there any other movies about WWI apart from air combat? i got flyboys and ive seen the blue max, but i want a movie that shows the actually battleground. anyone know of any?
chicagocubsforever 2 years ago
Hells Angles by Howard Hughes.
supernole100 2 years ago
Red Baron
scarlet512 2 years ago
"Passchendaele" look up this movie on youtube, its freaking awesome. Also "The Lost Battalion" is another good one.
Spawn40k 2 years ago
If you want a WW1 movie you can watch Passchendaele. Its the only i know that about the Canadian army during WW1. Be foworn though there are only 2 battles in the movie. The beginning and the end. The middle of the movie is bascilly showing the govt. Trying to recruit people and a love story.
ghtyu354 2 years ago
all quiet on the western front..its considered one of the greatest films of all time,the 1930 version,not the 1978 remake,which is supposed to be decent.
rodney280 2 years ago
@chicagocubsforever war horse
PhatF2p 1 week ago
For pity's sake, can someone, anyone, please think of a different musical cliche to use than Adagio in G Minor. Please?
Anyone?
BerkshireBoy007 2 years ago
Prelude in Dorian mode, possibly?
supernole100 2 years ago
the movie is innacurate no man's land would have the hell blown out of it no trees no green gas artillery shells exploding causing giant ditches everywhere
masman135 2 years ago
this could be early in the war. before the battlefield was turned into a shit hole.
inamonianim 2 years ago 4
no, this movie is about the battle of the somme, so the no mans land should be all churnned up. cheap ass director
xXGreyWolf 2 years ago 2
ok. fair enough. it looks low budget so im gonna give the guys a break. ^_^
inamonianim 2 years ago
ye but this is the first wave at this sector so it wouldnt have been yet and anyway the only areas churned up were the actual trenches at the begining because the shells were aimed there not no mans land common misconception, but still it is cheap but if you watch the battle of the some film you can find it on youtube, its vey accurate
SomthingNew0 2 years ago
It was the somme, so it took place in 1916 two years into the war. and before the battle took plce there was almost a month of solid shelling of the area. so yea it would have looked ten flavors of fucked up.
Spawn40k 2 years ago
@inamonianim well it was the somme this was the first major offensive, god rest the souls of those who died from the Generals ignorance
HailstormCourier 1 year ago
@inamonianim
That is the difference. war is a shit hole.
machinamanification 1 year ago
@machinamanification You're absolutely right but I meant before the artillery had churned up the mud into a cesspool.
inamonianim 1 year ago
@inamonianim
yeah god point. Men the mud and shit just sat their for months on end and them needed to live in that. war is a bitch.,
machinamanification 1 year ago
@inamonianim It's the Battle of the Somme, where No Mans Land was a green field.
@jakescuba No, it's not the general's fault. Hindsight makes a brilliant general, they did not know how to deal with fortifications, no one at the time did.
Redheadfury 9 months ago
@Redheadfury You say that in hindsight the generals were brilliant. If that's the case, why was World War One a series of bloody stalemates? Military beaurocracy kills more soldiers than any number of weapons.
inamonianim 9 months ago
@inamonianim No I didn't say that, I said Hindsight makes a Brilliant general. it's easy to criticise something when you A) weren't there and B) know what was going to happen. If the Generals knew that 60,000 men would die on the first day do you think they would of done it? *sigh* Please learn to understand English.
Redheadfury 9 months ago
@Redheadfury So I misunderstood your comment. Is that any reason to be rude? The war lasted 4 years. It simply baffles me that in that time no significant development in military tactics took place.
inamonianim 9 months ago
@inamonianim A massive development took place, creeping bombardments, covering fire, firing arcs, stand to, portable mortars, battlefield medics, automatic weaponry, the use of shot guns... The somme was 1916, only 2 years into the War, and was one of the first major offensives of the war.
Redheadfury 9 months ago
Why the thumbs down? What he said is generally accurate.
AnonAnonyAnon 2 years ago
no it wouldnt be because actually if there was an area that hadnt seen any action yet like this area in the film the only craters would have been withing 50-100m away from the german trench, whereas most other seens the german line is close and there has been fighting for a long time hence the fucked up ground
SomthingNew0 2 years ago
It was a relatively low budget film so i do not think i will come out in german. (and its been out for a long time now!!!)
hippy49 2 years ago
why did we have to go over the top?? and i dont get how we won the war coz i feel that going on ta no mans land is basically surrendering.. x
dannnii2k8 2 years ago
Well the 1st Day of the SOmme stands as the worst day in the British army. But the battle went on for months and was a signficant strategic victory. It forced the Germans to yield not only ground but important roads and they had to curtail their Verdun actioons that the French army was able to maul irreperably the German 3rd Army, which also had to fall back and yield important ground.
Also that lessons learned over the SOmme campaign helped to modernise the British army in tactics.
fp470 2 years ago
Going over the top means advancing to attack the enemy.
Going into no man's land was necessary because it was the dividing area between the two sides, and it had nothing to do with surrendering.
There are lots of books on WW1 and also the internet is full of lots of useful information that you can read and learn from.
THthefirst 2 years ago
it was pretty sad wasnt it if u think rate my comment good
menzia33 2 years ago
how come they walk?
Penguinz13989 2 years ago
They walked because the british generals thought that the artillery bombardment on the German trenches would wipe the Germans out, so they told the British troops to carry lots of equipment. The soldiers could not physically run with the weight of their equipment
hippy49 2 years ago
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Penguinz13989 2 years ago
The british generals told them to walk instead of run because they thought the germans were dead, therefore no need to run because they foolishly thought there was no way they could have survived.
Arrogant Generals thinking they were invincibal and unbeatable. Idiots.
EmmaBlue2 2 years ago 2
@hippy49 thats somewhat true but they also believed the tactic of staying in line and walking fourth was proper well my great great grandfather was in ww1 and thats what he told me so
67thCloneSquadron 1 year ago
so they dont fire the machine guns
jsk8erd226 2 years ago
@Penguinz13989
uphill dumb ass.
oh and why run when you can walk to you're death. running would do no good, there is no cover to run to.
machinamanification 1 year ago
@machinamanification
I meant why walk when you can sit in the trench and wait for the artillery to do it's job, and THEN walk.
dumbass.
Penguinz13989 1 year ago
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machinamanification 1 year ago
@Penguinz13989
Because if you wait for the artillery to stop the enemy could shoot at you....
dumb ass.
machinamanification 1 year ago
@machinamanification you'll get hit more if your walking towards them, as opposed to sitting in your trench...
Penguinz13989 1 year ago
@Penguinz13989
Not while you are getting hit with artillery.
machinamanification 1 year ago
Great cast in this film
MsAlex101 2 years ago 2
Fare avanzare a ranghi compatti le truppe contro i nidi di mitragliatrici resterà per sempre nella storia come la più grande forma di idiozia strategica.
cinnelli 2 years ago
nice but the landscape doesnt exacly go as a ww1 battlefield with it green gras and everything
bleushift 2 years ago
It looked that way in the first battles.
Alex9322 2 years ago
nice work but the fields were green
SlinkaSlink 2 years ago
I think it was supposed to be the first day of the battle of the Somme so they may have been grass then or atleast there was alot of grass left.
princedraay 2 years ago
perfect..G-D and glory and what not lets play in flanders field..pick some nice screaminmg poppies shall we?
DRUNKnaxi 2 years ago
whats with the trees and thick grass on no mans land.
Dingobat4 2 years ago 2
The fields around the Somme in July were green and relatively undamaged at the start of the battle. The perception of muddy and annihilated no mans land is slightly misleading, not every battle in WW1 was like that but obviously some were (particularly passchaendale (spelling)).
gavp9 2 years ago
what is this song please?
missdaphoune 3 years ago
This is a variation of Adaigio for strings, it's a vocal version
correct me if i'm wrong
flowingvision1 2 years ago
i watched this todday in history i dno why but this time the shooting noise frightened me x
07BIRCHENOUGHB 3 years ago
Thats cos i couldn't record sound on the recording
I played a wav file from a game over the bit he gets shot
Its not part of the actual film sound track
hippy49 3 years ago
oh lool owell still interesting . . . haha thank yuu bbe add me as a matte on this yuu seen pretty nice lool x
07BIRCHENOUGHB 3 years ago
we watched this is history, and everyone was crying and i was like what the hell :L But its quite a good little film (:
ilovemuseandkol 3 years ago
This was a pretty terrible low budget made for TV movie. There uniforms were accurate, it had alot of potential.
moneymikey 3 years ago
The flower of youth just wasted away and for what--no significant ground was gained at the Battle of the Somme -- I feel like crying still even though it is ninety years on -- their memory is a fresh as if it had been only days ago. We must try not to forget their sacrifice by earning it each and every day of our lives. They are safe in God's precious kingdom now, eternally at peace==it is we who struggle on with our own demons.
dlepagexnow 3 years ago
a good book on the somme (novel is a covenant with death by john harris is it?
zaohad1 3 years ago
the endings wierd
brettsworld99 3 years ago
what?
him getting snipered?
markreid95 3 years ago
yes, that...its a litlle...unexpected, lol!
brettsworld99 3 years ago
if you know your history you would know that it was normal for the troops to be ordered to walk, and that they would do so. and no mans land will have been grassy fields without shell holes to start off with. duh.
joerockski 3 years ago
Yes why is no-mans land a beautiful green field?
Patty1917 3 years ago 3
because,they,couldnt,dig,up,and,destroy,the,grass,for,the,film,because,it,was,filmed,in,london
321kapow 3 years ago 2
it should be shell holed and bombed with craters the battle was july here it looks early spring. the ppl who survived said the grass was dry
zaohad1 3 years ago
The only thing inaccurate about this is that the 'No Man's Land' between the trenches would have been much more mutilated, destroyed, and filled with dead bodies from previous charges.
zimpiko28 3 years ago
and thrown up mud/ crators from a much heavier bombardment from artillery
empmccoy 3 years ago
French troops were always instructed to charge running to the enemy as much as one can run with 60 pounds of equipment on one's back, and sometimes extra boots of mud around one's legs. Yet, when they reached the barbed wire zone, they became easy targets as well.
As the poilus' saying went: "Tu sors, t'es mort. Tu sors pas, t'es pas mort!"
Fridomfry 3 years ago
I said that and got slagged off. A war zone is a war zone it doesnt look like a perfect grassy field.
zaohad1 3 years ago
War is like a game of chess pawns moved to do the grub work
TeRRoRx503 3 years ago
You kinda need to see the rest of the film, the British soldiers were told that all the Germans were dead and that they would be able to walk all the way there. The reason they kept walking even as things went wrong was because they obeyed the order to keep in line from higher-ups
lozzotownsend 3 years ago
I dont blame the germans for shooting they were only doing their duty as soliders I blame the fucking general for being such arseholes for not changing tactics and throwing wave after wave of men to their deah I call it cold murder!
jakescuba 3 years ago 8
@jakescuba what is the alternative without aircraft or tanks?!
THthefirst 1 year ago
All the allied bombs and artillery were ineffective because the germans were underground in concrete bunkers where they were probably drinking, smoking, playing cards and probably getting sick of the sound of constant shelling! still at least they had sniper rifles to play with
reggaeman22ukr 3 years ago
They were very brave british Men. In those days u were very lucky if u survived at least the army has improved alot since then.
imagen going over no mans land and 1 by 1 ev1 getting shot. and then even if u do get in the enimies trench its a fight to the death
lHoodlum 3 years ago
dat must have sucked!!! ww1 tactics were shit! why ddnt they get air support or sumtin!! i kno its easy for me to say 90 sumtin years on!!
lebron230793 3 years ago
to lebron230793 [bcos my reply button doesnt always work lol]
air support didnt exist...we couldnt use artillery as it was so inaccurate itd probably hit our own men and aircraft had only just come into existence let alone fighting in the air and bombing...IMO the fault lies with the higher ranking top brass officers.
dalek184 3 years ago
orite!!! i blame them too!! sitting 3 miles behind the front line with no concern for the welfare of the troops in the trenches and used them as pawns in their little war games!!
lebron230793 3 years ago
Actually, WW1 had some airsupport in the form of bombers but they were extremely ineffective.
Stinkywookiee 3 years ago
i bet that walk felt like it would never end, for the people that made it.
soviet145 3 years ago
I can not even begin to imagine what they went through and how brave and fearless our soldiers were during the great war, lest we forget. RIP x
frankieflash 3 years ago
Brave for sure - fearless for sur not!!
machierl 3 years ago
of course running and scattering is a better idea- lets all just walk in a straight line in front of machine guns so that the gunners don't have to aim they just swing the gun round and fire. The only advantage is that if you make it to the enemy's trench, then you can storm it in mass, one guy's useless if he's on his own.
RJdrumguy 3 years ago
walking was a bad tactic? are you sure? so it would have been better to run towards enemy MG'S? they walked for a reason people.
reggaeman22ukr 3 years ago
are you saying walking was a good idea? all of the tatics were terrible!
tomtubeboob 3 years ago
lol cant beleave they walked its so they can storm the trench at the same time if it was me i wud of run and run and run easy 4 me 2 say but its better then being mowed down then u can at least w8 4 the slow soldiers to catch up.
lHoodlum 3 years ago
its just beyond me how someone didnt say....'hang on this doesnt work? maybe we shouldnt walk infront of a machine gun, with an enemy behind it' but even then cowboys were fighting better than this and they were earlier than the first world war. You would think they were fighting with swords. crazy, its worse than thinking about where the universe stops
tomtubeboob 3 years ago
Probably because like the film says they were all told that all the Germans would be DEAD and it would be a stroll in the park and you could link arms and have a merry day
stevie301271 3 years ago
yeah but why continue walking when you know its gone tits up? all im saying is if i was incharge i would have done things differently. Winning with no losses is the ultimate goal but not then. they just kept throwing more soldiers on the fire!
tomtubeboob 3 years ago
There were 3 ways of getting across no-mans-land: Run, Walk or Crawl. If they ran they wouldn't have enough energy to fight once they got they, crawling would make them a siting duck for the artillery and walking made them an easy target. so there was no safe way to get across No-Mans-land
Taylorboast4 3 years ago
you could hitch a ride on the back of a mk. I, until it goes boom that is.
Maus5000 2 years ago
the reason their walking is because at the battle of the somme the british thought that they had killed all of the germans from the massive artillary bombardment so they saw no need to run.
jakescuba 3 years ago
what a waste of life...as they say donkeys leading the lions
the genrals in ww1 would av fucked up a pissup in a brewery
barmyarmy1967 3 years ago
Holy gravy ... I knew that early WW1 tactics sucked, but not that much.
Walking in lines, toward the enemy, in completely open terrain. It's offering almost better target for enemy machine gunners and riflemen than on the shooting range.
Briselance 3 years ago
Well they commanders thought that the bombardment had destroyed the enemy already so they encouraged them to walk in lines so they don't rush and all arrive at the same time, together.
raptor9603 3 years ago
Also,your misrepresentation of the issue is apalling and insulting. You would have people believe that Americans would open up on anything that moved, and yet, you neglect to tell the side about the British going on missions in hostile territory without teling us so that we could watch out for them, or vehicles failing to assume a non-combat stance in friendly territory, or RAF pilots being TOO LAZY TO BRODCAST A FRIENDLY IFF IN OUR AIRSPACE!
HHRB0664 3 years ago
And WHY do you keep pulling out the issue of friendly fire? It has nothing to do with the video or anything else here, and it seems to have sprung upon me as an attack at my military as opposed to adressing the issues of your own. Deflection won't work.
HHRB0664 3 years ago
i liked this film. its low budget but good. i was sad to see billy die at the end i wanted him to live.
willhaytch 3 years ago
I agree with you! I think it adds more realism to the film to have the main character die tho! but i would have liked a happy ending, but i guess there was no happy ending in that battle
MarcianoMMA 3 years ago
good job we are still her cos of them even no i dont no them i still love every one of dem i cry every time xx
shaqimtheman 3 years ago
my step dad was an extra in this scene as part of the Great War Society.
I dont know what is a more scary prospect, having to go over the top like this or being gased? Everything in this war seems so terrible, it used to scare me when i was little and still does now
napoleonbonarparte 3 years ago
same here
termometen 3 years ago
they are real heroes!! they were told to walk across the Somme by their superiors.
callumsale 3 years ago
Lol. Look at 'em march in formation like it's 1750. Stupid canucks.
HHRB0664 3 years ago
lol your a yank!!! Look at your military, im very sure you have heard the term, "FRIENDLY FIRE!!!!" How fuckin dumb were you yanks to blow up tanks that had giant union jacks on top of them during the gulf! Even up until now, your still killing your own men and ours! I would be ashamed of my country for that! How stupid you are you silly twit! These men in the somme were the most brave men around. Hitler said "If I had British Troops and German Officers, I would rule the world". You are a loser!
MarcianoMMA 3 years ago
I'm a yank, am I? I'm from North Carolina, so I'm definately not a yankee. There is a big difference. Even I could tell you what a difference there is between someone from London and someone from Glasgow or Cardiff, and yet you cant tell one from another in my country? I'm not saying you should have known where I was from, I'm just saying that NOT EVERYONE FROM AMERICA IS A YANKEE.
And why the hell did you decide to pull friendly fire out of your ass?
HHRB0664 3 years ago
Firstly, the term Yank is used by us British to describe an american! It does not matter where you are from, it is just a term for american.
Secondly, why mock those poor british troop becuase they were ordered to march? It wasnt thier fault! America has a history of friendly fire. Search friendly fire in the gulf, even now you yanks are still killing your own and ours! Why call them cunucks? You obviously dont know that Cunuck is a term for a canadian/french canadian! Good day!
MarcianoMMA 3 years ago
Yeah, well I am telling you that you are using the word incorrectly. Just because you are ignorant doens't make you right. And yes, of course I know that Canuck means Canadian. From another video pertaining to this movie I was lead to believe that the troops were Canadian. If they are British, then my mistake.
About your second point: if your CO tells you and your squad to go for a stroll through the open in front of an MG, do you do it? I would fear for the lives of the men you led.
HHRB0664 3 years ago
ugh, you're old fashioned..
copsontops 3 years ago
what are you talking about?
MarcianoMMA 3 years ago
I don't remember but I think I was laughing at a tommy
copsontops 3 years ago
i just watched this film and it was excellent! its sad that so many people died that day.. what a waste of life
J0nnYsk8 3 years ago
true what i just don't understand is why can't the world live in peace? if it was like that the world would be much better off but some people think it's best to kill everyone they don't like. why?
gameboxfreak 3 years ago
its human nature to hate each other and to kill each other after all we are animals just the most deadly one
it cant be changed
EntombedHate 3 years ago
too bad it's our nature:(
gameboxfreak 3 years ago
good movie but what i don't get from this movie is: why don't they run the fuk outta their body?
pretty much every other movie i saw, book i read and documenterly's i saw on tv they're running like hell. i don't know much about british tactics back then but if anyone knows that would be apreciated.
gameboxfreak 3 years ago
They were ordered to march. And if they didn't follow orders, they were shot.
UnknownAccount0 3 years ago
aha that explains half but still why weren't they ordered to do a running assault cus this is pretty much a sucide...
gameboxfreak 3 years ago
The generals had very bad tactics. I know, it was a stupid thing for them to do.
UnknownAccount0 3 years ago
because in parts of the somme the lines were up to a mile apart plus the british thought little remained of the germans
britishpatriot01 3 years ago
ok thx
gameboxfreak 3 years ago
no they werent, your thinking russia
kennyclone 3 years ago
This is WW1 not WW2.
UnknownAccount0 3 years ago
Wow, thanks. Now we know how smart you are.
hamb6960 3 years ago
Was that a complement?
UnknownAccount0 3 years ago
even if they ran they were on open Ground. the chance of surviveing runing or marching is none cus lets face it WW1 was a slaugter
rip to my great grandfathers cusins all killed on the somme
EntombedHate 3 years ago
that is true to bad it was...
gameboxfreak 3 years ago
the somme was really a very long trench and in the area with the british and german trenches were close together, acctually broke through.
melonhead82 3 years ago
k i dont understand going over the top. i know they were told to walk in a straight line and not fire and so they would either get shot or make it to the other side and get stabbed or watever. so was there ever a 3rd option of them calling retreat? cuz how did ANYONE survive?
6045310708 3 years ago
some hid in ditches, some laid on the fall and went back to the trench at night fall.
anyway, the Germans never used the machinbe gun pointing towards the troops because they wouldn't hit that many, so they fired at an angle to hit more of them.
When they next went over the top, the artiliary fired just infront of the british soldiers for the smoke to cover them as they got closer to the enemy trench. 3 of my great grandads fought in ww1 and they all suvived.
melonhead82 3 years ago
Im glad to hear they survived! My great Grandad was working class but worked his way up to captain. He used to go into german trenches and bunkers and clear them out to the best he could. I cant remember the name of it but it sounded dangerous. There were 3 of them that did this together and sometimes they would have to kill up to 7 times thier amount. He sadly died tho on 1 of his last missions and is buried in france. he wasnt given the VC/MC becuase he did not have a plum in his throat!
MarcianoMMA 3 years ago
Thats good that, woking his way to captin, must have taken him a long time though. I think one of my great grandads got the george cross, but my grandad can't find them so i don't know, but i think it is.
melonhead82 3 years ago
"What if private soldiers commanded instead of generals? War would be very different."
-Paul, from Upton Sinclair's Oil.
mikezephyr 3 years ago
it was kinda like that on d day (ww2)
dpsantos1994 3 years ago
Dday was a huge sucsess u fuk head! all british and canadian sectors met little resistance, the americans just had bad luck, the commanders were excellent
Benfordius91 3 years ago
every sergeant lieutenant and captain were dead or injured on d day privates and corporals did most work there
i was talking about ENLISTED troops "fuk head"
dpsantos1994 3 years ago
Just a note to people watching this clip. Yes, the grass in no mans land is realistic. The seven day bombardment of the German lines was actualy aimed at the German lines, it was also not very concerntrated and spread out all over the place, meaning that it was not very effective. If you have a look at footage or photos of the first day of the Somme offensive you will see that there is much grass in no mans land.
paratrooper6 3 years ago
Idiotic commander who ever it was.
SloveintzWend 3 years ago
Field marshal Sir Douglas Haig, but after this, all ideas of advancing troops were given to officers out in the field like captins, lieutenants, majors and colonels
melonhead82 3 years ago
After failure or after few slaughtering "moments"?
SloveintzWend 3 years ago
yeah, thats true. I think that all the stuff on WW1 is amazing, you understand how soldiers felt and thats what i've always wanted to know, how they've felt before going over the top, thats why i'm writing a book on ww1.
melonhead82 3 years ago
fucking insane bravery! what discaplean! the british army what a goddamm waste of these great man by their goddamm british generals!!! napoleon once marked of the british army:"the best soldiers and junior officers,led by the worst generals!"
gyshalom 3 years ago
too right,a bunch of pencil pushers, never ever got into the shit when they were needed most, instead they sent the poor kids to be slaughtered on there behalf while they were in the back sipping on there brandy. Thats pretty much how it is today aswell
adamstheman 3 years ago
The acting is terrible...and why the hell is it all so clean?
SOEdigital 3 years ago
nice movie. The song sounded pretty good with it. And made it more intense. World War one was one of the most horrific wars ever faught. I have family that was in it.
ArmenianLegion 3 years ago
danny dyer is young in this and hes still very sexy,
it alrite if u like war films and in some bits is slow.....
willowthedog111 3 years ago
For your tommorrow, We gave our today.
baggierdrake92 3 years ago 2
didnt a very young danny dyer play in this or am i rong ??
coxyrst 3 years ago
The song is the adagio from Agnus Dei, its been done by a lot of people but its most famously used in the iconic sequence of Platoon. Its wielded to a similarly devestating effect there too.
Machao6 3 years ago
if anybodys watched the film do you know the theme song to it ?
downesy22 3 years ago
i thank those men because without them we woulddnt be here today. Thank you for fighting and giving your lives for our freedom.
Brand656565 3 years ago
for what freedom? For France, maybe...but this was not the Nazi Germany of several decades later.
The Germany of post 1918 was a very noble nation.
This war was largely for beneficial gain on the part of the Entente and Central powers.
I'm not too big on the politics of those days...but whatever they faught for, if for nothing, for bad, or good (terms which have no relevance to me except in hollywood) I respect all those who ENDURED. For war brings out the best and worst in humanity.
IForgottenHopeI 3 years ago
They fought for imperial prestige more than anything. The gobbling up of land by Germany was just their taking advantage of the war their alliance obliged them to enter.
Bluehawk2008 3 years ago
"The tragic waste of lives once gave..."
fritzVirginSteeler 3 years ago 3
Those men, British and the Commonwealth troops gave their tomorrow for our today, they didn't take the mick out of each other, they only worked together to see the war through.
We salute you.
melonhead82 3 years ago 5