this is such a perfect song for this movie. Before I learned a little of deutch I thought mann gegen mann (man against man) was about war. like man against man is like spear against shield. boy was I fricking embarrassed when I found out it had nothing to do with war. I'm such an idiot sometimes.
When the 22nd ranked University in the world teaches me that Spartans fucked each other in the butt before they had wives, then that's proof enough for me. Someone in denial? Fuck outta here.
Hey everybody! I just released my solo album "Mirror Image" that contains electronic upbeat and ambient songs heavily inspired by the music of Rammstein. If you're interested you can check out the songs on my youtube page, and links to my myspace page and places to download the full album are on my youtube channel as well :) .
And Richard Kruspe is one of the coolest guitarists out there. All members of Rammstein are awesome and extremely talented!
Actually, Greeks and Romans had sex with young boys, that ware not older than 10y. Two grown man didn't had sex with each other, unless they ware gays. Not sure about Spartans thou, think they had a bit different tradition from other Greeks, bcos they thought them selves higher than other Greeks and other nations over all.
As having taken a class on Ancient Greece history during this time period, I know that Spartans thought it manlier to have sex with another man, than a woman. That's just how their society was. Full grown men would have sex with each other.
@tzalavaras hey imagine yourself 70 years earlier in ww2....you're sorry arses would've been screwed without our motherfucking barbarian help...from the guy in livining in the country that gave you the lightbulb.
Watching music videos featuring blatently inappropriate Rammstein songs is my favoritest thing in the whole wide world. (although all the men shoving each other around and trying to hit each other with their spears is oddly appropriate in this case...)
Lyric translations:Look them up or use a song in a language you understand! Otherwise you get...well, this.
Mann gegen Mann" literally means "man against man" (and you could interpret this in either the 'man versus man' sense, or the 'man [physically] up against man' sense). In the last refrain, the phrase changes to "Mann gay gen Mann" which sounds exactly the same, but literally means "man gay for man."
The fate laughed at me, and made me a present, threw me on a warm star, nearby the skin, far away from the eye, I care for my fate, my desire is a man, Where the sweet water dies, because it addles in the sand, I have my little prince, a king without a queen When a girl gets lost at me, then the hell is confused, As you see, it IS about gay men.
Whoops, my bad, you're right, it is about homosexuality. One of my friends said he looked up the lyrics and it's about people eating other people, but I should have checked my sources first. Just looked em' up and, yeah, defiantly about bang'n dudes.
"Mann gegen Mann" literally means "man against man" (and you could interpret this in either the 'man versus man' sense, or the 'man [physically] up against man' sense). In the last refrain, the phrase changes to "Mann gay gen Mann" which sounds exactly the same, but literally means "man gay for man."
Man against man My skin belongs to the gentlemen Man against man Birds of a feather flock together Man against man I am the servant of two masters Man against man Birds of a feather flock together I am the corner of all rooms I am the shadow of all trees No link is missing in my chain [2] when lust pulls from behind My family calls me a traitor [3] I am the nightmare of all fathers
why do people debate the ferocity of homosexuals. they can hold the same courage and rage as anyone else. I have several friends who are great big flamers and I don't mind them having my back (no pun intended) in a bar fight
There are many many gays fighting in many wars. Alexander, the great conquered big part of the world being gay. History shows that sexual orientation has nothing to do with courage ...
and i m not sure you know history, saying Alexander conquered big part of the world being gay.
Yes being gay has nothing to do with what you do or are capable of, not arguing on that here, but no where it is proved with historical facts that Alexander was gay, except if you are judging by Stone's movie and the likes lol
lol this fitting since that movie was really gay...all that man meat on screen...and even tho the song translates to man against man it is about being a gay man. :B
i've also heard that armies like the Spartans sometimes made the men have homosexual relationships with each other so they'd be better fighters cos they'd look out for their lovers lol. not sure if it is actually true tho.
psychological and physical conditioning began in childhood, as with EVERY OTHER warrior class-centric society. Full on combat training began with the onset of puberty, as with other warrior cultures. Spartan, Knight, Samurai. The Spartans were just the most extreme example of warrior focus. Spartans began at 6, teutonic Knights started at 5-7.
Choronos... read your history books. The biggest examples of this practice in Greece were the Sacred Band of Thebes which interestingly enough, 300 hoplite warriors aka 150 homosexual couples.
Which would be very hypocritical because they did that aswell, so it's just wrong intention of the screenplay to match their social behaviours, with those of today which are very fixed on masculinity.
Nope... Greeks were more famous for their homosexuality than the Persians.
The ancient Greeks practiced Pederasty and if you've heard of the Sacred Band of Thebes (army of homosexual lovers). Boeotians, Spartans, and Cretans were just some of the practitioners.
love how people thinks this song is about fighting.. haha "I am the corner of all rooms I am the shadow of all trees No link is missing in my chain [2] when lust pulls from behind My family calls me a traitor [3] I am the nightmare of all fathers Man against man My skin belongs to the gentlemen Man against man Birds of a feather flock together"
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cosmochel 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Rammstein
What's the name of song at the end? :D
manikon1 3 months ago
@manikon1
It's the main theme of the movie "The Fabulous Destiny of Amélie Poulain". Watch the movie if you haven't yet!
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This film have cartoon graphics !
mateusnardicamargo 4 months ago
0:31
THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!11
VolkulakaUA 5 months ago
this is such a perfect song for this movie. Before I learned a little of deutch I thought mann gegen mann (man against man) was about war. like man against man is like spear against shield. boy was I fricking embarrassed when I found out it had nothing to do with war. I'm such an idiot sometimes.
eyeaboveall 6 months ago
@zeB1b3r You realy dont know deutch do you huh?XD
justomeguy 7 months ago
@VASquadRul3z They didn't actually fight one million soldiers, pal. This film isn't entirely historically accurate.
p1nkfl0yd 10 months ago
The song is brilliant!)))
Koresh205 1 year ago
There is no dispute-- they had homosexual relationships with young men.
hymnofashes 1 year ago
When the 22nd ranked University in the world teaches me that Spartans fucked each other in the butt before they had wives, then that's proof enough for me. Someone in denial? Fuck outta here.
CrispyBalooga 1 year ago
I took a college course on Sparta, champ. Greek or not, I know more about the subject than you.
CrispyBalooga 1 year ago
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And Richard Kruspe is one of the coolest guitarists out there. All members of Rammstein are awesome and extremely talented!
ORTmusic 1 year ago
song is good, video is awful. there nothing about timing...
cagriuluc 1 year ago
since video is from 300 its irony that this song is about gays hahaha
kiflarrgh 1 year ago
The title fits the battle, cause Mann gegen Mann also means "man to man combat"...
RD19902010 1 year ago
Great ending ;)
MrBarft 1 year ago
Wo das süße Wasser stirbt
weil es sich im Salz verdirbt
the fresh water dies, cause it taints itself to salt :) wonderful eh?
saikiranoruganti 1 year ago
Lol @ Xerxes :D
1hahahoho 1 year ago
lol hahaha
Bonnman100 1 year ago
can anyone say the music name of the end of the movie.
ilyaskurklu 1 year ago
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matekochkoch 1 year ago
Gegen does mean against yes, but it is also slang for "Gay for" anyone can tell this by watching the Rammstein video, or if you actually know German.
Rammsteinisgreezy123 1 year ago
@Rammsteinisgreezy123
umm im sorry, but gegen means "against", or "versus".
GarrettP130 1 year ago
kennt einer das Lied am ende, bei den Credits? ^^
MajorManni 1 year ago
@MajorManni Aus dem Soundtrack von "Wunderbare Welt der Amilie"
matekochkoch 1 year ago
@matekochkoch danke :)
MajorManni 1 year ago
Spartans had sex with rest of the world that period.
Go back to school to learn some history.
chm0d666 1 year ago
@chm0d666 just because its says that in some book doesnt mean its true :P
ragnorak642 1 year ago
mann gegen mann means man versus man -.-
CrazyBones3 1 year ago
@CrazyBones3 Actually it's more accurately translated as "Man against Man"
Magical725 1 year ago
spartaner warn schwul ?! xD
Pyromane0711 1 year ago
@Pyromane0711 anscheined XXDD
Loozz7 1 year ago
bester Film und beste Band aller Zeiten = geilste Kombi auf Erden :) 5/5
TheShadowLoop 1 year ago
Perfect fit for the song. But I personally prefer Frau gegen Frau.
Nufflebunny 1 year ago 21
der beste film is Tenacious D The Pick of Destiny :D
Riesenkarotte 2 years ago 2
this song doesnt suit the fighting all that well but it suits the greeks.
rawr1im1a1dinosaur 2 years ago
gosh i love rammstein and 300 D:
ElenaStrawberry 2 years ago 6
296 spartaner
ThePokerpin 2 years ago 6
esta bien chido
MrChino95 2 years ago
True fact ---> Spartan men had sex with other spartan men, before they married.
CrispyBalooga 2 years ago 43
Actually, Greeks and Romans had sex with young boys, that ware not older than 10y. Two grown man didn't had sex with each other, unless they ware gays. Not sure about Spartans thou, think they had a bit different tradition from other Greeks, bcos they thought them selves higher than other Greeks and other nations over all.
Metalhead0303sp 2 years ago
As having taken a class on Ancient Greece history during this time period, I know that Spartans thought it manlier to have sex with another man, than a woman. That's just how their society was. Full grown men would have sex with each other.
CrispyBalooga 2 years ago 3
@CrispyBalooga that doesnt exist if someone was gay he didnt had rights at ancient Greek world
psychofurious 1 year ago
@CrispyBalooga
That is not true , sex wih little boys was normal for aristocrats in Athen and Rom
tolldolltoll 1 year ago
@CrispyBalooga thats the trick of becoming a true warrior lol.
231johnjohnson 1 year ago 2
@CrispyBalooga True fact.You are a barbarian motherfucker from some british colonies with bastard dna...
Sincerely,a descendant of the men who gave you the light....
tzalavaras 1 year ago
@tzalavaras lol wat
CrispyBalooga 1 year ago
@tzalavaras hey imagine yourself 70 years earlier in ww2....you're sorry arses would've been screwed without our motherfucking barbarian help...from the guy in livining in the country that gave you the lightbulb.
System958 1 year ago
@System958 /watch?v=Cr00QE1uLU8
tzalavaras 1 year ago
@CrispyBalooga true fact--->U take drugs :)
cyclerofgod 4 months ago
@cyclerofgod no
CrispyBalooga 3 months ago
@CrispyBalooga Bros before hoes
TheDukePuke 2 weeks ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Rammstein
für die personen die es nicht verstehen
das lied mann gegen mann handelt nicht vom krieg sondern von der homosexualität
Cimetta14 2 years ago
schön für dich
vitesik 2 years ago
This song fits 300 good imo. I don't think spartians were gay, this song is just so hardcore.
Too bad Rammstein made such a good song about gays, I wish "Mann gegen mann" really was 300 theme song with different lyrics...
flessested 2 years ago
Watching music videos featuring blatently inappropriate Rammstein songs is my favoritest thing in the whole wide world. (although all the men shoving each other around and trying to hit each other with their spears is oddly appropriate in this case...)
Lyric translations:Look them up or use a song in a language you understand! Otherwise you get...well, this.
Juputoru 2 years ago 2
Spartans often had sex with other men, this song is very appropriate. Wether or not the video creater knows this is a different question.
00JakeR00 2 years ago 5
300 is a gay movie i mean hello they had no clothing in that time ?
zeB1b3r 2 years ago
In this time, nudity is heroic ;)
Kharn700 2 years ago
fuck you idiot, 300 BEST MOVIE EVVVEEEER!!!
vitesik 2 years ago
@vitesik
Not as good as Meet the Spartans
Quasarboy77 2 years ago
meet the spartans hmm i looked it on german, hmm its not funny ok the begin ist super but no the film sucks, 300 is the best
vitesik 2 years ago
300 and gaynes thats not evident
Aramidfaser 2 years ago
dude this song is about gaynes.
DeltaHardcore 2 years ago
as is the movie.
ketzerlino 2 years ago 4
where the fuck is the original video i cant find it
3per 2 years ago
trust me u dont want to see it
KRAZE87GMODDER 2 years ago 3
Too many naked men and you can see flakes penis. So no chance for the video on youtube.
It will be deleted for violating the rules.
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the song tells about gays... just y know. Pepole, watch the real music video of the song! :D
Rokyo92 2 years ago
the song tells about gays... just y know. Pepole, watch the real music video of the song! :D
Rokyo92 2 years ago 3
man AGAINST man !!!!
DeathDealer436 2 years ago 2
you should check the translation then you'll understand XD
WxLAxMAMMAX 1 year ago 2
man VERSUS man !!!!
to6ko12 2 years ago
man INSIDE man... :-)
sloppodaren 2 years ago
Leonidas is gay for Xerxes.
advocateofthedevil 2 years ago
the song is about gays and the movie also so it fits perfect !
zeB1b3r 2 years ago 29
no you just have nothing to say man sorry
mrraphendeck 1 year ago
@zeB1b3r bullshit
FEAR709 1 year ago
@FEAR709 sup ?
HoLYsHiTakaB1b3r 1 year ago
pretty good, but mann gegen mann really wouldnt go with 300, just saying. good anyway
JOHdarko7 2 years ago
Hey fool, he already admitted he was wrong. Piss arse.
RoiPhloragon 3 years ago
yea nice video...how is name of music at the end,when playing credits???plz answer me...
GEAR1902 3 years ago
it is part of the soundtrack of the movie "the fabulous life of amelie"
xhwEvilTwin 3 years ago
nice vid mate ^^
Arceusmastah2 3 years ago
It's actually called Man against Man in english :D
MrsRammsteinKruspe 3 years ago
No Shit Sherlock
tunaandcrackers 3 years ago
Mann gegen Mann" literally means "man against man" (and you could interpret this in either the 'man versus man' sense, or the 'man [physically] up against man' sense). In the last refrain, the phrase changes to "Mann gay gen Mann" which sounds exactly the same, but literally means "man gay for man."
sjt900 3 years ago
2.37 PiiiiDoooR AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
areotkantek 3 years ago
@areotkantek lol thats the funniest yell ive ever heard
Exterlite 1 year ago
Well many spartans were gay, especially hoplite warriors so i guess they would have liked this vid. LOL
SerialPwner 3 years ago
MioRaem 3 years ago
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It's called Man Eat Man. It's not a sexual thing, it's like referring to the men as food.
JoPissvengance 3 years ago
Whoops, my bad, you're right, it is about homosexuality. One of my friends said he looked up the lyrics and it's about people eating other people, but I should have checked my sources first. Just looked em' up and, yeah, defiantly about bang'n dudes.
JoPissvengance 3 years ago 2
you are idiot -.-
narcoman1 3 years ago
GRAMMAR NOTE
"Mann gegen Mann" literally means "man against man" (and you could interpret this in either the 'man versus man' sense, or the 'man [physically] up against man' sense). In the last refrain, the phrase changes to "Mann gay gen Mann" which sounds exactly the same, but literally means "man gay for man."
sjt900 3 years ago
The fate laughed at me,
and made me a present,
threw me on a warm star,
nearby the skin, far away from the eye,
I care for my fate,
my desire is a man,
Where the sweet water dies,
because it addles in the salt,
I have my little prince,
A king without a queen,
MioRaem 3 years ago
HAHAHA^^ 1:35 "wenn die lust von hinten zieht"^^
metalhannes 3 years ago
You know that mann gegen mann is a song about homosexuals or don't you?
Paralititan 3 years ago
Spartans are Homosexuals xD
kikigelo 3 years ago
that is not correct my friend.. they actually raped women...
gigel4ever 3 years ago
No there is no only sentence about raped women ... It is a song about gay men.
klossbruehe 3 years ago 2
GREAT JOB!!!
I LUV THIS VID!!
kaddSSs 3 years ago
Its funny, because this song is supposed to be a parody on the homophobic.
And its being used in a 300 montage.
PolishHammerJr 3 years ago
032125 3 years ago 3
PAOK PANTOUS MES TIN athina DOOOOOO
COCOBIROS 3 years ago
Hope u under stand its not man vs man, but klask klask lol
Norwegiannationalist 3 years ago
Good video, congratulations Werewolf!
Tavares1488 3 years ago
turning ths up reeley loud is awesome even tho i hte th vid
michaeldudeoo1 3 years ago
this vid is asome tho! :)
michaeldudeoo1 3 years ago
ZWITTER
granknaria 3 years ago
You're so fucking awkward
wggummo 3 years ago
awesome video
good song choice
favd
dumbtard34 3 years ago
Such a fitting song for 300, if you know what the song's really about. It's actually a lot like the "Mann gegen Mann" music vid.
SevenSwordsExia 3 years ago
you realise this sonfg is about makeing fun of gays dont you?
EBILPOTATO 3 years ago
then it could be used to mock parts of the spartan culture aswell... if that suits you or any other:P
husum89 3 years ago
yeh hve u sen th vid? ohh GOD
michaeldudeoo1 3 years ago
its not making fun of gays it's just about gays and how ppl shud think of it, look up english lyrics mann gegen mann
StokeMidget 3 years ago 4
Spartaner waren keine Gays Meister,
vielleicht ein Paar Schweriner!!
crashinwwII 3 years ago 2
...und Chemnitzer dazu.
crashinwwII 3 years ago
why do people debate the ferocity of homosexuals. they can hold the same courage and rage as anyone else. I have several friends who are great big flamers and I don't mind them having my back (no pun intended) in a bar fight
Minthril 3 years ago 2
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bush is gay, look how much irakies killed
46875713 3 years ago
ur stupid... look it up iraq look pretty happy killing there neighboring counrties and now u gonna bitch about them dying...
Lavitz00 3 years ago
bad quality
alexandergraskamp 3 years ago
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lots of spartans were gay because in sparta u had to rape a woman then she would be ur wife but sum cant so they catch men off gaurd
redcop87 3 years ago
bullshit
tomthebomb77 3 years ago 2
actually most sparans promoated gayness because you fight alot harder to keed a loved one alive than that of a friend...
deadcell989898 3 years ago
Dooh they are all gays, they´re wearing hot leather pants.
TheDitteMareXP 3 years ago
lol persian xD
MUSMULEyo 3 years ago
Gay people cant kill other men, simply because their gay. That's why gays are not allowed to go in the army.
JohnsonFinland 3 years ago
why? jeffery dahmer was gay and he killed a shitload
paintballmoreyo 3 years ago
gays not aloud in the army?
my uncle is gay and last time i checked he was in iraq...stupid dipshit
deadcell989898 3 years ago 9
There are many many gays fighting in many wars. Alexander, the great conquered big part of the world being gay. History shows that sexual orientation has nothing to do with courage ...
riotribunal 3 years ago
and i m not sure you know history, saying Alexander conquered big part of the world being gay.
Yes being gay has nothing to do with what you do or are capable of, not arguing on that here, but no where it is proved with historical facts that Alexander was gay, except if you are judging by Stone's movie and the likes lol
Tomelena 3 years ago
great Humor the song is cool anyway but in that context very funny.
4thkind 3 years ago
I rather watch this vid than the actual one.
KayDawg16 3 years ago 4
KayDawg16,
Either way, both vids portray nude or near-nude muscular gays.
PeoplesGeneral 3 years ago 2
Well first, not all the Spartans here are gay. And I don't see a bunch of bare naked men wrestling here.
KayDawg16 3 years ago 4
Read up on your Ancient Greek history. Besides, its homoeroticism in the guise of "manly warriors".
PeoplesGeneral 3 years ago 3
Your missing the point. I'm talking about the videos, not the history. I know all about the history.
KayDawg16 3 years ago
xenomorph3951 i am greek and i know they where doing homosexuals things cause they where getting drunk all the time
LdZeppelin 3 years ago
i don't say they weren't homosexuals but from what you say, i understand that if you get drunk, you do "homosexuals things" :)))))
corso7up 3 years ago 5
nice work :)
Dogfather007 3 years ago 3
Ha!
eighthcircuit724 3 years ago
lol this fitting since that movie was really gay...all that man meat on screen...and even tho the song translates to man against man it is about being a gay man. :B
i've also heard that armies like the Spartans sometimes made the men have homosexual relationships with each other so they'd be better fighters cos they'd look out for their lovers lol. not sure if it is actually true tho.
Chickengirl005 3 years ago
Oh it is Chickengirl, it is...
PeoplesGeneral 3 years ago
meh, probably not true. i doubt spartan warriors trained from the age of 6-on would need extra motivation to do their jobs properly.
choronos 3 years ago
psychological and physical conditioning began in childhood, as with EVERY OTHER warrior class-centric society. Full on combat training began with the onset of puberty, as with other warrior cultures. Spartan, Knight, Samurai. The Spartans were just the most extreme example of warrior focus. Spartans began at 6, teutonic Knights started at 5-7.
cnutsz 3 years ago
Choronos... read your history books. The biggest examples of this practice in Greece were the Sacred Band of Thebes which interestingly enough, 300 hoplite warriors aka 150 homosexual couples.
PeoplesGeneral 3 years ago
who gives a shit
jackieboy33 3 years ago
naja also ich denke mal nicht das das stimmt sondern das dies ein gerücht ist das nach der krassen niederlage der perser entstanden ist!!!!
kalizakis 3 years ago 3
Das was ein Gerücht ist? Die Homosexualität der antiken Griechen? Da gibt es nix erfundenes. Frag mal einen wirklich geschichtskundigen Menschen.
Xenomorph3951 3 years ago 3
At the start the Spartans made fun of the Athenians being philosophers and boylovers.
RoiPhloragon 3 years ago
Which would be very hypocritical because they did that aswell, so it's just wrong intention of the screenplay to match their social behaviours, with those of today which are very fixed on masculinity.
sternberg1 2 years ago
im sure those persians were gay and wanted the godlike spartan penises; those spartans said "GET AWAY YOU GAY NOOBS!"
Taimaishu371 3 years ago
Hey thanks. I agree. Now i'm gonna go gouge out my eyes and shoot myself in the face.
moniker127 3 years ago
Nope... Greeks were more famous for their homosexuality than the Persians.
The ancient Greeks practiced Pederasty and if you've heard of the Sacred Band of Thebes (army of homosexual lovers). Boeotians, Spartans, and Cretans were just some of the practitioners.
PeoplesGeneral 3 years ago
The Spartians and the people from athen were very homosexual.
Xenomorph3951 3 years ago 5
IT was the Spartans who actuall encouraged homosexuallity. But they still ROCKED!
ThisIsRysta 3 years ago 5
awesome
semmie12 3 years ago
No, the song isnt about fighting, its about gay men. Look up the lyrics, you will see.
N3VAR 3 years ago 5
Aside from looking up the lyrics to "Mann Gegen Mann", you can also look up the official Rammstein Music Video.
PeoplesGeneral 3 years ago 3
...Nein
Lovejapon 3 years ago
better then the real music video LOL
IcanSpellMyname 3 years ago
the video is pretty good! but i think that the part when they fight with the shields is pretty "langweilig" (boring in german).
bajeatu11 3 years ago
Whoa uber nice 2 thumbs up
killerhotdog75 3 years ago
Whoa uber nice 2 thumbs up
killerhotdog75 3 years ago
anyone know the music for the credits?
clockman6 3 years ago
schwuler!! - nice :> greets to rammstein-fans all over the world, primarily america
kingi 3 years ago
The video is good,but what about this song?
bajeatu11 3 years ago
People, the song is about gay people. lol, how you put a war movie too that...
BeastSpore 3 years ago
Thats the hilarity behind it. It's still a good song though, it can be equally ambiguous about gays or literally, men fighting men.
Gays more likely though, due to the screaming of swuler or however you spell it.
Luciferkragoth 3 years ago
Well, the English translated title means "Man Against Man," so you could link that to war I guess.
xTinselTown 3 years ago
bjorn2010 3 years ago
lol!
i knew that this song isn't about fighting:p
if you see the original clip
XD
tibetaan 3 years ago
Geiler Film, geiles Lied. Was will man mehr?
Maffe1988 3 years ago
nicht schlecht
Gummiente123 3 years ago
Wooooooooo double meanings. Lol
Aeramant 3 years ago
good, gut
kahhles 3 years ago
This video is definitely more enjoyable than the naked man pile in the original music video.
DJMandwich0610 3 years ago
very nice!!!
Tw0617 3 years ago